AP confirms: Iraqi lawmakers want timetable.
By on May 10th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
AP confirms: Iraqi lawmakers want timetable.
“A majority of Iraqi lawmakers have endorsed a bill calling for a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops and demanding a freeze on the number of foreign troops already in the country, lawmakers said Thursday.”
The bill would require the Iraqi government to seek approval from parliament before it requests an extension of the U.N. mandate for foreign forces to be in Iraq, al-Rubaie said. It also calls for a timetable for the troop withdrawal and a freeze on the size of the foreign forces.
The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously in November to extend the U.S.-led forces’ mandate until the end of 2007. The resolution, however, said the council “will terminate this mandate earlier if requested by the government of Iraq.”
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Why do Iraqi lawmakers hate our troops?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pmWhoooooops. They like accountability. They want to be a sovereign nation again. Now what, hawks?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pmdon’t they know that what they want means doodly to shooter’s new world order? jeez, are these guys, well.. stupid or something?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pmWhy do the Iraqis hate America? Oh wait we know why.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:29 pmABOUT TIME!!!
Now the President can order and immediate withdrawal and he has the political cover to do so. Iraq is sovereign and they no longer want us there.
Oh yeah, why does the Iraqi Parliament hate our troops?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:29 pmHmmm. Seems like other folks want us to leave Iraq also. Why do the Iraqis hate Iraq so much?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:30 pmInterestingly, GDumbya is on TV right now blathering on about Iraq and claiming that a timetable will embolden the enemy, yada, yada, yada.
It appears that LaLa and his dog, Barney, are the only supporters he has left.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:30 pmAnd so the White House will have to start dissing al-Maliki as well as Pelosi. Oh, those wicked Iraqis. They’re appeasing the Islamofascists. Isn’t that what you were going to say ValianttheVenushater and Patrick1trickpony?
Soon, the neo-cons will have to promote the idea of one person/one voter. (I mean one voter.) LOL. All hail the Great Decider Bush.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pmThey stood up. Let’s stand down.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:32 pmSomebody had better tell the Repulsivescum…
…the Iraqis are giving aid and comfort to the enemy…
May 10th, 2007 at 12:32 pmThis is so perfect. Our President is too dumb to understand when he has been given a gift. He has all the cover he needs now to end this thing, and I bet he wont do it!!
May 10th, 2007 at 12:33 pm#1, they do hate our troops, and everyone who doesn’t want more warfare also hates peace , and um, freedom! yeah, that’s it, these no-backbone hippies hate freedom! and you too!
The only way to get peace is to leave. now. Some reading on this:
“We just marched in, so we can just march out”
May 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/we_just_marched_in_so_we_can_just_march_out
The Iraqis want us gone. Let’s go.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:36 pmOK, so that’s a hat trick. The Iraqi Government, the Iraqi people and the American people all want the same thing — for us to get the hell out of there. Talking points are dropping like flies.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:38 pmThe Iraqis want us gone. Let’s go.
Comment by Zooey
That would be nice if it happened but the truth is unless Dennis Kucinich is elected president we are never leaving Iraq.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:42 pm#11
You don’t undestand, the policy is to stay in Iraq forever. If they demanded we leave immediately we wouldn’t do it. The U.S. id developing a sphre of influence from the Balkans, through Turkey, Iraq, skipping Syria & Iran (for now), and into Afghanistan. We’re preparing to project American will over the entire Near and Middle East for decades, like we did in Europe after WW2.
Bush is NOT going to leave Iraq under any circumstances, and asdaly I think that the key players on both sides of the aisle recognize and understand this. Maybe even embrace it. I mean, if the Dems really wanted this handled, couldn’t the disgust of the American people with it all be unitd in an effort to get us home? haven’t you wondered why the Dems can’t seem to get traction of ending this debacle? When the next president takes over we’ll still be there, and they’ll be able to say, “we didn’t start it, but we’ll fix it”…..
May 10th, 2007 at 12:44 pmThat would be nice if it happened but the truth is unless Dennis Kucinich is elected president we are never leaving Iraq.
Comment by klyde
I really hope you’re wrong about that.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:45 pmThanks for this thread, TP! You’re on the ball. I was wondering where this was in the mainstream news since it would seriously affect the way the people and perhaps congress will view the subject of “timetables” in the new bill being drafted on the war.
Kudos!
May 10th, 2007 at 12:47 pmYes the Iraqis want the US troops to leave, but Bush and Cheney want to control Iraq’s OIL reserves forever.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:47 pmI really wish I had proofread my last post (#16). Sorry.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:48 pmThis is all the Clintons’ fault!
Now, I’m gonna go bang my sister.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:48 pmHi Zooey! How are ya? I agree that I hope the prognostication about leaving Iraq only being possible if Kucinich is president is inaccurate. Of course, all I have to do is ask myself if greed and avarice are ever “cured” and it comes up negatory every time so….as long as the oil is over there, the BIG OIL WHITE HOUSE will want to have their fingers in the pot…..and all for their personal profit….along with Tenet and the rest of the war profiteers!!
May 10th, 2007 at 12:49 pmDisgusting!
#19 Jay – I believe we’ve just said the same thing at almost the same time….in synch mentally.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:50 pmSome anti-American doucher wants us gone? Hey, that’s good enough for me! I take my orders from militant muslim extremists. When Hubebs says jump, I ask how high.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:51 pmThat would be nice if it happened but the truth is unless Dennis Kucinich is elected president we are never leaving Iraq.
Comment by someone who’s never heard of Vietnam
May 10th, 2007 at 12:55 pmDick Cheney, yesterday: “It’s game time”
Iraqis, today: “We like the Democrats’ game plan.”
And please don’t forget Chimp’s immortal words on Mission Accomplished Day when he brandished his veto pen:
“I believe setting a deadline for withdrawal would demoralize the Iraqi people.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070501-6.html
Say what?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:55 pmMokeyboy,
#16,
Unfortunately, I think you analysis is spot on. Hence the reason I said that it wont happen.
But I think the Dems also have the political cover now to put the pedal to the metal. They should be in constant contact with legilators in Iraq, and give then Dems can get the swing district Repubs to go for this.
I’m telling you guys, this is a watershed moment. We should be on the phone with our legislators telling them just this. Now you have your political cover. They want us out, we are gtting out. End of story!!!
May 10th, 2007 at 12:56 pmmonkeyboy: “haven’t you wondered why the Dems can’t seem to get traction of ending this debacle?”
No, that’s obvious. Republicans have been obstructing Democratic efforts to get out of Iraq. Dems need a supermajority in both houses to override Bush’s veto. Haven’t you been watching?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:58 pmHillary is saying that we’ll need to keep some troops in Iraq indefinitely. What’s Obama saying?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:58 pmveritas > controlling Iraq’s OIL is the sole purpose of Bush Regime refusing to leave that hellhole. Most Americans like us are waking up to the fact that OIL is the only reason our soldiers are forced to stay there.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:01 pmHillary is saying that we’ll need to keep some troops in Iraq indefinitely. What’s Obama saying?
Comment by margaret — May 10, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
I hope everybody remembers this when they vote in the primaries.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:05 pmAnd why should Chimpf*ck listen to the Iraqis when he won’t even listen to the citizens of the country he supposedly leads? Does Jebus whisper in their ears like he does Boy George’s?
Bush is a petulant, stubborn, stupid little man. This war is Bush’s War, and he will not quit killing our soldiers for any reason.
That being said, I think he may go down as the best President ever.
He has succeeded where logic has failed. You can argue with the idiots all day long about the pus-filled core of the Repugnicunts and not make any headway, but when you have such an absolute perfect example in the Chimperor, he is making some real progress towards pushing America to the left.
Thanks you Boy George! We couldn’t have designed a more perfect example of incompetence and evil.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:05 pmmargaret: “Hillary is saying that we’ll need to keep some troops in Iraq indefinitely. What’s Obama saying?”
Pretty much the same thing. He just takes a lot less grief for it.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:05 pmsounds like our direction is clear…
May 10th, 2007 at 1:07 pmThis is the watershed moment we have needed to end this thing. I’m sure that if the President wont move on this, the Dems should be able to get a veto proof majority for withdrawal now.
With the Repubs finally reading the riot act to the President, they should be ready and politically covered to sign on to a tropp withdrawal now. Call your reps and let them now that now is the time.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:13 pmUSA should start with cleaning their own land before going into other lands invading and killing off the people who are not responsible for what USA, EU, UN have created by the works of their Own handy work in the matter given unto law. Before 1948 may I remind them where the foundation of the whole problem lays? And when building anything USA GO ask the builders, If they stay away from the TRUTH of how they came into knowledge of how to build if he stays away from that TRUTH in knowledge then what would be the product status of that building? Not worth the effort would they not say? For when you leave Truth you have not a true foundation. And they wrote the history I was not a witness to the account. And then ascribe what to the land? Holy Land? Not built upon TRUTH in the foundation? They know not what is Holy for if they did surely they would not ascribe it to stolen land. For Holy is not in need of anything stolen if they but did know Holy. False foundation.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:15 pmSecret Slave,
What in the hell are you talking truth false about. Truth guy. False whacko?
Nowhere in your post was there even the hint of a cogent thought. We are all the dumber for having read it.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:19 pmSomebody has wires touching.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:21 pmAbout time the Iraq government has agreed on something.
Bad news for Busco. To bad he didn’t listen to all the options for getting out of the Iraq fiasco.
Even if the Iraqis want us out will Busco really listen to the Iraq government (and presumably it’s people) or ignore them by creating some BS reason to stay (Oil, big reconstruction contracts, Blackwater security, etc.).
Troop reduction probabaly, complete withdrawl, doubtful.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:21 pmThis means they have had their fill of Surge ™.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:21 pm#27 bluedog
I’m absolutely watching. With no blue or red colored glasses. I can’t help but think that there is enough popular support for ending this that (willing) Dems could have it focused and directed at already wobbly Repubs.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:23 pmInstead we’ve got the two main Dem Pres candidates saying that a U.S. force in Iraq will need to be maintained, we’re building the largest American Embassy in the world in Iraq along with some huge bases, we’re building new bases and signing deals with Eastern European and Middle eastern countries……it seems clear to me that we’re on the cusp of a new age of American Power projection. Into the Middle East and Eastern Europe, from the borders of Russia to India, and astride the treasure trove of huge oil reserves.
WTF?
May 10th, 2007 at 1:23 pmAll of the dems except gravel and kucinich are talking about “leaving troops to protect our embassy and other facilities” keeping troops “in the neighborhood” Just in case alQueda takes over and other equally ridiculous BS.
Our embassy is larger than Vatican City and those “other facilities” Include but are not limited to the massive Camp Victory and the even larger LSA Anaconda and Balad Air Base. Now how many troops do you think it is going to take to protect those facilities. Now Edwards calls for a total withdrawl in 12-18 months. (At 80 US killed a month that’s an extra 1400 dead.) However, his plan has some buts: he’ll leave troops there to protect our massive embassy and to train the Iraqi Army and to protect us and allied civilians doing humanitarian work in the country. Doesn’t sound anything like a total withdrawl to me.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:32 pmSeventy plus percent of the American public, the Iraqi “leadership”, all that ignoring must be hard phucking work.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:35 pmmonkeyboy: “I can’t help but think that there is enough popular support for ending this that (willing) Dems could have it focused and directed at already wobbly Repubs.”
Again, they need to be able to override a veto. At this point, without a little more help from republicans, that’s not going to happen.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:36 pm#42
Exactly. We’ll draw down the total number of forces at some point, but we’re there to stay for the foreseable future. A new, permanent military presence in Iraq, Afganistan, The Balkans, Romania, and Poland in addition to the existing presence in Turkey, and the smaller Middle East countries, and we have a significant Eastern shift in our foreign presence.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:44 pm#44 – Can’t veto impeachment … It’s probably time.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:50 pmWhat does Bill Richardson say about the Iraq War?
May 10th, 2007 at 1:54 pmDM: “Can’t veto impeachment … It’s probably time.”
Yes, but you can’t impeach without the same supermajority you need to override a veto. Look, I agree with any poster who says Bush and Cheney should be impeached. I totally agree…. but you need that supermajority.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:57 pm#35 reads like the label on a bottle of Dr. Bronners soap after it has been soaked to the point where it can hardly be read.
May 10th, 2007 at 2:25 pmPraise the gourd and pass the eucalyptus.
I can’t believe it took them this long and that it’s actually news! Wow. A country’s government wants an occupying force to leave? The Iraqi people have wanted this for about …. 4 YEARS! It’s 4 years and 600,000 dead people too late.
So now it comes down to one person to finally carry out the will of the Americans and the Iraqis: George Douchebag Bush
May 10th, 2007 at 2:27 pmSince when do Iraqi lawmakers matter? The commander guy, the deciderer in chief says jump, the Iraqi’s should be asking how high.
May 10th, 2007 at 2:46 pmTime to go. Let’s get our men and women out that meatgrinder Bushco created.
May 10th, 2007 at 3:18 pmSince when do Iraqi lawmakers matter?
When they can be used for propaganda purposes.
“Twice the brave Iraqi people have gone to the polls and voted in the brave men and women of the Iraqi Assembly. Our ally the brave Prime Minister Maliki…”
You know the rest. But when it comes to them actually exercising authority? Soveriegnty my fat spotted arse
May 10th, 2007 at 3:19 pm#48 ~ Knowing that impeachment allows congressmen fighting for their jobs to separate out their record from Bush & Iraq, I think they can be convinced. And I’m pretty sure impeachment (passing the articles of impeachment in the House) is just a simple majority.
Senate removal is a two-thirds vote.
May 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pmWASHINGTON – President Bush, under growing political pressure, agreed Thursday to negotiate with Congress on a war-spending bill that sets benchmarks for progress in Iraq.
yahoo news home page
Bush’s willingness to put benchmarks in a war-funding bill represented a shift by the president.
“One message I have heard from people of both parties is that benchmarks make sense and I agree,” Bush said.
May 10th, 2007 at 3:29 pmWASHINGTON – President Bush, under growing political pressure, agreed Thursday to negotiate with Congress on a war-spending bill that sets benchmarks for progress in Iraq.
yahoo news home page
Bush’s willingness to put benchmarks in a war-funding bill represented a shift by the president.
“One message I have heard from people of both parties is that benchmarks make sense and I agree,” Bush said……….
May 10th, 2007 at 3:30 pm#49 – we used to distribute Bronner products with their bizarre labels following Dr Rabbi Hillel’s pronouncements. There were posters of him with his fly eyes glasses we used for target practice with darts and bottle caps.
May 10th, 2007 at 3:42 pmThey were for us before they were against us, right?
May 10th, 2007 at 4:45 pmWhy isn’t this BREAKING NEWS on all cable stations across the nation? Iraq want US OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY.
And, not only 72% disapprove of Bush, but now some of those belonging to the 28% approval rating are now asking the US led invasion be over.
So who exactly want this US led invasion now occupation to continue????
Oh, I forgot…. Bush has to be a war president, the oil deals aren’t sealed, those war profiteering need more cash, we have 14 bases in Iraq to be filled and let’s not forget the embassy – the largest in history(?) and Bush’s crusade has bagan…..
May 10th, 2007 at 5:44 pm