“I don’t force my personal views on other people” can only be taken so far before you need to say “THIS IS WRONG!” That time has long since passed.

JC speaks with clarity and conviction and need to be President!

Slavery is the use of another person’s body and effort to provide one’s own sustenance against that person’s will. It is the use of another person’s work without payment and in violation of that person’s wishes. It is the presumption of ownership of another’s body.

If a fetus is to be treated equally as an individual and the mother shall not have the right to abort, who is made the master and who the slave?

If a fetus were given legal rights as a person, it would be an abomination. It would be a “person” who could live parasitically on it’s mother’s body against her will.

Thank goodness for the concept of INDIVIDUAL rights- it grants right to a single being (the mother) that it does not grant to a “dividual” or dependant being (the potential child). It is to this concept that we should look if we want to untangle the abortion morass.

BTW- how can Republicans argue that the poor have no right to demand the wealth of the rich while still saying that the embryo does have the right to demand the blood of the mother? Both, in principle, are rightfully considered violations of property. The poor and the unborn take (by government edict) the wealth of one and the body of the other, violating the rights of the wealth-producer or the mother- each of whom should have ownership of thier bodies as well as to the products they create. If you’re anti-welfare you should be pro-choice and vice-versa. But this is the opposite of what we see today.

Thoughts?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0705/10/sitroom.01.html

Cheers,
Monger

Scroll up and read the whole thread before spewing your insults. Post 24.

I don’t have a problem with abortions.

Monger, do you have the link for the transcript?

Re:Cheating in college – I turned a girl in for cheating in Law School…..the b*tch never spoke to me again – I was SO happy.

Toooodles…….

(from CNN transcript)

BLITZER: What do you think, J.C.?

WATTS: Well, Wolf, you know why I like John McCain and Rudy Giuliani? I don’t always agree with them on everything, but they don’t change their position because J.C. Watts disagrees with them.

I disagree with Rudy Giuliani on the life issue. And I think the rationale that he gives I disagree with even more, because that’s the same as saying, well, I’m personally opposed to slavery, but, if somebody else wants to own slaves, that’s fine. I think it’s the same rationale.

But the fact is, Rudy has not pandered to J.C. Watts to say, I want J.C.’s…

(CROSSTALK)

BLITZER: If he were the Republican nominee, could you vote for him?

WATTS: Well, Wolf, let me tell you why I think we — I agree with Paul.

I think we run the — the Republicans run the risk of having a third-party candidate that is pro-life. I think, if Republicans nominate a pro-choice candidate, I think we lose a whole lot of the brand that we have kind of built over the years of saying, we are the life party.

And why not vote for Senator Clinton, Barack Obama? That’s the question, or I think that’s the thing that creates a third-party candidate that is pro-life.

BLITZER: One quick clarification, because you’re going to get some criticism. The slavery comparison with abortion, explain what you meant.

WATTS: What I meant is to say that, while I’m personally opposed to abortion, but, if someone else wants to have an abortion, that’s fine.

So to JC abortion is immoral (or “wrong” like slavery to quote him directly) but in the same breath says he appreciates Rudy’s consistancy regarding his stance on abortion.
Isn’t that the same logic as saying that the Nazi’s views on racial purity are immoral but at least they don’t flip flop?

Sheesh, where do they get these clowns?

Most men have the ability to be decent fathers if they choose to, but, with a few exceptions they don’t make very good mothers. A man can take exceptional care of a child, but he give can’t be a mother and, try as you might, you can’t change the fact that kids get different things from mothers and fathers. The way for a woman to keep from doing all the drudge work in a family is to not marry a neanderthal, whether conservative or liberal.

Just who was it that made taking a human life a crime? And I guess you have to blame God or evolution for making your sex the ones to have children.

I have no problem with prolife advocates questioning when human life begins. I believe for most that the issue for those who advocate the prolife agenda really is protecting the innocent. However, to overlook the history-long enslavement of women to the work of child care, to call abortion the same thing as slavery, is to once again demonstrate that the conservative world view constantly projects its own shortcomings upon those with whom they disagree.

2) My body, my choice. Plain and simple. Who gave a MAN, one I don’t even know, the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with MY body?

3) I was a Republican, back in the late 80’s. Then Papa Bush came and showed me the error of my ways. Thanks to the Bushes for something!

If a baby is born early and lives for 2 hours before dying, was the baby human for a little while or was it never human at all? If you inject something into a woman to cause the death of her unborn child before it is viable, are you guilty of any crime other than, possibly, simple assault since you didn’t harm the woman? Is it a crime whether she wanted the baby or not?

typical Liberal drivel against minorities that can actually think for themselves and are not Democrats.

Liberals claim to hate racism, except of course when it comes to Liberals spewing racist remarks against conservative minorities.

Abortion supporters, just like slave owner did, claim that the baby inside the mother’s womb is not a human being. In fact, much like the Nazis claimed that Jews were not human beings.

Humans when they want to rationalized the extermination of a group of humans they have always dehumanized that group.