Kondracke Advocates Ethnic Cleansing Policy In Iraq, ‘Also Known As Winning Dirty’
Kondracke Advocates Ethnic Cleansing Policy In Iraq, ‘Also Known As Winning Dirty’
Roll Call executive editor and Fox News contributor Mort Kondracke writes today that if President Bush’s escalation policy doesn’t work, his Plan B should be “winning dirty,” which involves “accepting rule by Shiites and Kurds, allowing them to violently suppress Sunni resistance and making sure that Shiites friendly to the United States emerge victorious.”
Kondracke, the “left-leaning” counterpart to Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes on Fox News’ The Beltway Boys, acknowledges that his “winning dirty” policy will lead to ethnic cleansing:
Winning will be dirty because it will allow the Shiite-dominated Iraqi military and some Shiite militias to decimate the Sunni insurgency. There likely will be ethnic cleansing, atrocities against civilians and massive refugee flows.
He also reveals that at least one member of Congress agrees with his plan:
No one has publicly advocated this Plan B, and I know of only one Member of Congress who backs it — and he wants to stay anonymous. But he argues persuasively that it’s the best alternative available if Bush’s surge fails.
Kondracke says it’s understandable that Sunnis suffer because “so far they’ve refused to accept that they’re a minority. They will have to do so eventually, one way or another.” After all, he says, “Civil wars do end. The losers lose and have to knuckle under.”
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Wow. Evil holds down a 7 figure salary and wears a silk suit.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:49 pmdisgusting
May 10th, 2007 at 5:50 pmand to think Kondracke used to be considered a lefty.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:50 pmDear Mr. Kondracke
May 10th, 2007 at 5:50 pmJoseph McCarthy is no longer a member of Congress.
this guy is actually an alien reptile in disguise… how can he entertain such lovely thoughts…? asshole…
May 10th, 2007 at 5:50 pmAnd, yes, I DO take it personally
Alright More-Tohn, get your ass over to Iraq and show everyone just how you W lackeys “fight dirty”, except if you’re basing that on the Karl Rove style, then the bin Ladne style of “fighting dirty” will clean your ever-loving clock
That’s what happens when the DC Cocktail Circuit fills your veins instead of blood, you become as addled and dim-witted as Alberto Gonzales unable to recall anything of his day to day duties running the Justice Dept
May 10th, 2007 at 5:51 pmHitler and Saddam must be laughing in their graves. Absolutely reprehensible behaviour from the leaders of the world most “civilized” and “advanced” nation. What a psychopath.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:52 pmThat is no plan at all. We didn’t go into Iraq to let a civil war end in genocide. If the original principle of why we are fighting this war (ending terror) is as important as Bush claims, the $340 billion already spent and the further $100+ billion to be spent should be redirected toward plans to fight poverty and develop the country to prevent another Afghanistan. According to the Borgen Project, just $19 billion annually can end starvation and $15 billion provides water and sanitation all over the world. If addressing extremism is the goal, the Millennium Development Goals to end poverty is the way to to go for our leaders. There needs to be economic development, not continued war.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:53 pmmy god - perhaps the problem with the 28% is the hate spueing out from your television sets
May 10th, 2007 at 5:53 pmRadical K*ranimal Sunnis and Shiites are already “ethnically cleansing” each other…..pitiful isn’t it? But in examining the way Shiites and Kurds were suppressed, tortured and executed on a wholesale basis during the “good ‘ol Saddam” days (which Progs seem to miss), I’m not surprised…..
May 10th, 2007 at 5:53 pmIt is sad, but that is EXactly what’s going to happen as soon a s we leave. Unless, of course, Iran backs the Sunnis. Like I said, disgusting and sad. They have been “at war” with one another long before our contry ever began, that’s simply the way it is.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pmDo people have problems with how the “insurgents” fight?
May 10th, 2007 at 5:55 pmDoes he also realize that the conservatives are also a minority in the US?
May 10th, 2007 at 5:55 pmHey Mort, the next time you get an idea, don’t.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:56 pmgee, for once i agree with this guy. i feel like throwing up…..
May 10th, 2007 at 5:58 pmValiant cut the bs and tell us all another ‘dead baby’ joke…
May 10th, 2007 at 5:58 pmany civilized nation or even uncivlized nation would not allow such racist remarks on tele - they would be fired immediately
Im shocked and that takes quite a lot
May 10th, 2007 at 5:58 pmKrondake: “Civil wars do end. The losers lose and have to knuckle under.â€
Hey Mort, maybe you should inform the south. They’re still acting like they won ours.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:59 pmthis is the best way to deal with terrorism, war, and anger, right? just kill and maim everyone who opposes the imperial power.
way to go Mort. I wonder if you’ll get tried as a propagandist at the next nuremburg? I hope so.
The only way to deal with this situation and terrorism, as they call it, is to have a policy of peace, liberty and prosperity. This is the exact opposite of what the US is doing right now.
With such a new dirty war policy it should be clear that we’ve sunk to a new low, and that Iraq and the world was better off with the murderous dictator, Saddam - than the American “democracy” these poor people are having forced upon them.
Some further reading:
“Is the world a better place with Saddam gone?”
May 10th, 2007 at 6:00 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ is_the_world_a_better_place_with_saddam_gone
So he is openly advocating violence and violation of human rights.
Troubling predicament considering it could be carried out on him as well with such false reasoning had they his home address and information.
https://find.intelius.com/purchase.php
May 10th, 2007 at 6:00 pmThese warmongers are the prime example of evil. I have news for them…you don’t go to Iraq to get rid of Saddam because you want to do the same shit he did.
The GOP is so over.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:01 pmthats good, the folks that asked us to get out, he wants to reward and assist them in killing the others. how much money did the prince of inbredsaudistan pay him to spread that manure? he sounds like he is repeating the same things that the terrorists have been advocating?
maybe he is an agent for a foreign government. it is a rather un american statement.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:02 pmIt is sad, but that is EXactly what’s going to happen as soon a s we leave. Unless, of course, Iran backs the Sunnis. Like I said, disgusting and sad. They have been “at war†with one another long before our contry ever began, that’s simply the way it is.
Comment by Craig Mack
Which is why we shouldn’t have invaded their country to begin with. We have heard the words “I thought they were ALL Muslims”, haven’t we? The folks who put us in this mess had NO IDEA what they were doing - and this is the result.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:02 pm‘ progs seem to miss’ - and Reagan, Pappy Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld all endorsed and supplied the ‘crop sprayers’ and let Dow supply the ‘weedkiller’…. right MA…. its all progressives fault. Dead baby joke… come on.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:03 pmThose that need to reach him at home feel free to contact me.
Background Report for Morton Kondracke
Address History for Morton Kondracke includes the following cities:
1 Address in WASHINGTON, DC
Background Report for Morton Kondracke
May 10th, 2007 at 6:04 pmAddress History for Morton Kondracke includes the following cities:
1 Address in CHEVY CHASE, MD
The most hilarious thing about anyone spewing their “knowledge” on Faux Noise Network is that the mean IQ of its viewers is probably 3 notches above a sea slug. Unfortunately the sea slugs at Faux Noise believe this stuff because they’ve been conditioned to think its real. Such a waste of protoplasm all the Faux Noise contributors …and viewers…are.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:04 pmDoes he also realize that the conservatives are also a minority in the US?
Comment by Dreary Urbanite
People often confuse Bush’s approval ratings with the percentage of Americans that are conservative.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:04 pmTurdle - I apologize - You don’t wish Saddam were still in power and we had never gone into Iraq??
May 10th, 2007 at 6:05 pmTom - You and Turdle seem to have a penchant for looking back fondly on the “good ‘ol days of Saddam”. Do be a good boy and look up the violations of the Gulf War Cease Fire of 1991 and tell me why Progressives have no credibility when it comes to defense issues. With such a lack of teeth, no wonder you guys LOVE oatmeal and pablum.
“’til later………..
May 10th, 2007 at 6:09 pmFigures that a loyal Bushie is all for genocide.
And Delay calls progressives Nazis…..
WTF is wrong with these 28%ers?
Comment by Craig Mack — As soon as John Poindexter got involved in Iraq, there was a huge influx of death squads killing civillians in Iraq. It’s already happening and it is a repeat of history.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:09 pmSame crap happened when Poindexter got involved in Venesuela.
I love how nonchalant folks can be about the killing of far off peoples.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:10 pmDreary Urbanite - You must reside in a Democratically controlled blighted city from your pitiful moniker. My condolences! The number of people who self-identify as “liberal” and “conservative” are almost equal… 17% libs and 23% conservative. On second thought, 6 points is quite a gap…..
May 10th, 2007 at 6:12 pmNeil - I bet you have a hard time enjoying your dinner at night with the thought of starving people in (fill in the Third World hell-hole).
Tooodles…….
May 10th, 2007 at 6:13 pm“Civil wars do end. The losers lose and have to knuckle under.â€
Yeah! Just like those pesky germans lost WW1! They had to knuckle under! Cuz they lost! Oh…wait a minute…
Or like those pesky palestinians! In 1948! They lost, so *they* just had to knuckle under too! That’s the way wars work! The losers just *accept* that they lost! And everything is streamers and confetti for the winners! Oh…wait a minute…
At least he acknowledges that it’s a civil war….
May 10th, 2007 at 6:14 pmYou don’t wish Saddam were still in power and we had never gone into Iraq??
Comment by valiant venus
Maybe an Iraqi should answer the question. Yeah, sovereignity is not a word your own president can define.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:16 pmvaliant venus = No credibility, inadequate, bewetting, non-lawyer, non-wife, non-mother, non-retired JAG, authoritarian follower, hateful liar, who thinks funny stories about an alleged dead child are funny.
You are to be pitied. And dismissed.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:18 pmVenomous Valiant-
More hateful crappola.
Do you have one decent bone in your body?
May 10th, 2007 at 6:18 pmJeeze, these guys have no empathy. Was it bred out of them in grad school, or are they some science experiment gone awry? Little kids understand, ‘I’m rubber, you’re glue.’ What the heck is wrong with Kondrake?
May 10th, 2007 at 6:19 pmSo, Valient Venus, would you support an ethnic cleansing policy in Iraq?
May 10th, 2007 at 6:19 pmI just watched a program on TV called “Saddam Tribe” 1 1/2 hours written by his daughter a true story…….. total brutal and well told
something you will never see on your televisions in the US
He was brutal - Iraq would be almost certainely better off with him in Power and the UN sanctions lifted
at least 4.5 % of the population would still be alive and 3382 troops etc etc
But I dont think I saw him rape 14 years old girls and piss on dead people, shoot old men , kill for fun and fun only,
I cant wait for his book to come out , bet you worldwide it sells more than Tenets
May 10th, 2007 at 6:20 pmWe need ethnic cleansing here in the USA…starting with Faux news…rid the country of all Republicans.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:20 pm“blah, blah, blah…Saddam…blah, blah, blah…Gulf War…blah, blah, blah…“liberal blah, blah, blah…Third World…blah, blah, blah.
Tooodles…..
May 10th, 2007 at 6:20 pmKondrake is just hoping to be Olbermann’s “Worst Person in The World” tonight. What will Orally do to surpass this?
May 10th, 2007 at 6:22 pmComment by valiant venus
I though the invasion was because of the elusive WMDs MA.
Not to remove Sadam from power.
Thanks for confirming the LIE.
Fact: Sadam was under control, there was no need for invading when we were supposed to be after terrorist.
Fact: When forces won the war, the first thingthey did was secure the OIL Ministry, instead of securing or blowing known munition dumps, and they did not secure theborder. Biggest mistakes of the war. Big military tactical failure. Because of that, we lost the occupation.
Fact: Bush let Osama Bin Forgotten get away in yet another tactial blunder and was quoted saying he does not care whereheis, that it is not important
And yet, like a moron, you still support the IDIOT IN CHIEF
You 28%ers show a true lack of intellegence.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:22 pmI’ve got news for that a**hole Kondracke: the Saudis aren’t going to stand by and watch while their Sunni brethren are slaughtered. The Prince told Cheney this. What WE need to do is get our a**es out of there, and let the region take care of the region. We are just prolonging the problem–actually, we’re making things worse. We are not wanted there, anymore. We’re like “the guest that wouldn’t leave” on that old, old SNL skit.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:23 pmThis man, this evil, evil man is what makes all Americans look bad.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:24 pmTobey,
You may be able to make a few bucks by copying it onto a compatible CD and selling it to us yanks!
:)
May 10th, 2007 at 6:25 pmI hate to break it to our sociopathic friend, VV, but the majority of IRAQIS believe life was better under Saddam.
And, Valiant, since you’re so into polls and think that they show more conservatives than liberals, I suggest you go to Pollingreport.com and look at issues. What you will find is that on issues, Americans are extremely liberal.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:27 pmAnd Saddam was the evil guy?
May 10th, 2007 at 6:30 pmVenomous Valiant-
More hateful crappola.
Do you have one decent bone in your body?
Comment by trueblue
Oh! Oh! I know the answer!
NO.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:30 pmComment by trueblue — May 10, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0945391/
May 10th, 2007 at 6:32 pm#9 Comment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
“Radical K*ranimal Sunnis and Shiites are already “ethnically cleansing†each other…..pitiful isn’t it?”
VV,
May 10th, 2007 at 6:32 pmYour post here seeths with unstated hatred. Do you know how transparent your writing is? Your sardonic “…..pitiful isn’t it?” observation is just another example of your hate, based in fear.
Even taking into consideration that you want to inflame the progs here, does not account for this foray into hatred. Take that out of the first sentence and it would be your usual inflamitory crap which is standard troll fare. Insert it, and you spew the hatred in your heart. If you intend to inflame by spewing hatred, you need serious help. And sadly, I’m serious about that.
Kondracke is trying to dress this pig up like it was a new idea, but it’s been the neoconservative agenda from Day 1. “making sure that Shiites friendly to the United States emerge victorious” was “getting Ahmed Chalabi into power so we have full access to Iraqi oil.”
Bush may have thought the plan was for him to lead the ignorant savages of the Middle East into a glorious democratic (and, no doubt, Christian) future but the neocons have always wanted to establish a puppet state with a friendly dictator, just as US foreign policy has always favored, either in that region or in Latin America. You cannot extract resources efficiently in the middle of a civil war. Chalabi was the answer to their prayers, up until the Iraqis made it clear they wanted nothing to do with him.
For all I know, Kondracke might still think Chalabi could end up as top dog; he certainly isn’t suggesting that Sistani or al-Sadr would be appropriate “friendly” Shi’ites.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:33 pm45 - he does indead - I just cannot beleive he would be allowed on TV that amazes me — WOW — I honestly cannot beleive it
HEY I KNEW IVE SEEN THIS PLAN BEFORE SO HERE IT IS
http://www.iht.com/ articles/ 2006/ 12/ 18/ news/ letter.php
WASHINGTON: Someone in Vice President Dick Cheney’s office has gotten everybody on this city’s holiday party circuit talking, simply by floating an unlikely Iraq proposal that is worthy of a certain mid-19th century British naturalist with a fascination for natural selection.
We shall call it the Darwin Principle.
The Darwin Principle, Beltway version, basically says that Washington should stop trying to get Sunnis and Shiites to get along and instead just back the Shiites, since there are more of them anyway and they’re likely to win in a fight to the death. After all, the proposal goes, Iraq is 65 percent Shiite and only 20 percent Sunni.
Sorry, Sunnis.
The Darwin Principle is radical, decisive and most likely not going anywhere. But the fact that it has even been under discussion, no matter how briefly, says a lot about the dearth of good options facing the Bush administration and the yearning in this city for some masterstroke to restore optimism about the war.
Darwin? Try Machiavelli.
An even more far-fetched offshoot of the Darwin Principle is floating around, which some hawks have tossed out in meetings, although not seriously. It holds that America could actually hurt Iran by backing Iraq’s Shiites; that could deepen the Shiite- Sunni split and eventually lead to a regional Shiite-Sunni war. And in that, the Shiites — and Iran — lose because, while there are more Shiites than Sunnis in Iraq and Iran, there are more Sunnis than Shiites almost everywhere else.
Wow.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:35 pmMajority of the Arab States are Sunni. Things could escalate beyond Iraq. This may be the grand plan of the Neocon cabal. Let ‘r rip and pick up the pieces.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:36 pmZooey,
Always there to back me up.
Thanks.
:)
May 10th, 2007 at 6:36 pmChris L,
Cool!
Thanks for the link.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:40 pmSaddam’s Tribe. 9.00pm. Channel 4.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:40 pmIn 2004 producer Monica Garnsey had a series of meetings with Raghad Hussein. Raghad’s story, combined with others who knew Saddam, inspired Saddam’s Tribe. Examining how Saddam retained power for over a quarter of a century and eventually lost it, the drama describes how the fate of a whole nation turned on the fluctuations of family loyalty and, eventually, of family betrayal amidst a descent into debauchery and corruption.
#35 - Zoooette - You are the poster child for why “Totalitarian” Progressives are thought of with such pity….and more than a tad of contempt……..You are as open-minded as a seales vault…..
May 10th, 2007 at 6:40 pmDreary Urbanite - You must reside in a Democratically controlled blighted city from your pitiful moniker. My condolences! The number of people who self-identify as “liberal†and “conservative†are almost equal… 17% libs and 23% conservative. On second thought, 6 points is quite a gap….. Comment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
Yet the latest polling show that some 50+% of Americans “Lean Democratic”, whereas only 30+% of Americans “Lean Republican”?
Wow, you must really have taken a heaping helping of Koolaid to be so clueless as to what’s happening in the world!
I also hate to *inform* you of this. But while most Americans have been taught that “Liberal=bad” by the mainstream press, and may not self identify with that term, when they are questioned on individual issues that YOU would consider Liberal versus Conservative - they consistently (over 50%) pick the Liberal side of the issue. Just imagine, with all of that Madison Avenue branding that you Conservatives have spent 30 years and countless millions (perhaps billions?) of dollars in trying to turn America RED, they’re more liberal now than when you started - when you get down to brass tacks!
More Conservative waste of money… You dum basses can’t even convince the majority of your BASE that you’re competent - yet you think America is going to choose you to run the country again?
BAHAHA, take another sip of that kkkoolaid - Nazi c*nt!
May 10th, 2007 at 6:41 pmZooey,
Always there to back me up.
Thanks.
:)
Comment by trueblue
Just returning the favor. :)
May 10th, 2007 at 6:42 pm#35 - Zoooette - You are the poster child for why “Totalitarian†Progressives are thought of with such pity….and more than a tad of contempt……..You are as open-minded as a seales vault….. Comment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
A “Totalitarian Progressive” is an OxyMoron - whereas you are just a MORON - Nazi c*nt.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:42 pmWait a minute — given this, how is it that we haven’t already won?
Declare victory, get out. Duh. Nice 2 step plan, no timetable required.
The real question I have is… how are we going to get a Shiite Iraq to be friendly to us instead of Shiite Iran? Hrm? Ooh, maybe that’s a flaw in this nice little 2-step plan… Bummer. Sucks to be us trying to stop an Islamic Caliphate from forming when our “Plan B” for victory is to *help it form!*
Anybody else remember why we supported Saddam with guns and maps to help him target those guns back in the ’80s yet? Hrm?
May 10th, 2007 at 6:42 pmSo here we have Wingnut Venus and her Friends calling for “Ethnic Cleansing”. And she wants the world to think liberals are like the Terrorists! BAAHAHAHA, what a fringe piece of sh*t lunatic!
May 10th, 2007 at 6:44 pmComment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Whaaa?
OK, seriously - you need to take the meds now.
Zooey - - - closed minded??????
May 10th, 2007 at 6:44 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAGHAGHAGHAGHAG!
The one problem with the Dirty War scenario is that it depends on Muslim cooperation. That ain’t going to happen. The Saudis have already threatened to intervene should the US not protect the Sunnis. And the Shi’ites are allied with Iran. And the differences between Shia and Sunni is greatly exaggerated.
This Dirty War scenario is not only illegal, immoral, and disgusting; it has about as much chance of working as MacArthur’s little scheme to capture North Korea without triggering the invasion of the Chinese across the Yalu river. First rule of warfare is not to count on the enemy doing what you hope they’ll do. It’s not that different than the lawyer’s rule that you should never ask a witness a question you don’t already know the answer to. (And, judging from Gonzales’ performance today, I’d say this WH knows squat about either rule.)
May 10th, 2007 at 6:46 pm#58 — Not So Mighty Hag
It’s so telling that you didn’t deny a single truth in my comment at #35.
YOU would win any contempt contest around here, bless your heart.
“seales vault” Hmmmm, is your “assistant” not around to clean up your dribble?
May 10th, 2007 at 6:46 pm“seales vault†Hmmmm, is your “assistant†not around to clean up your dribble?
Comment by Zooey
**snicker**
May 10th, 2007 at 6:51 pmPutting aside the appalling moral hypocrisy of this proposal, it’s also totally dumb.
Kondrake says “The Sunnis have to accept that they’re the minority one way or another” - but in the Arab world as a whole they’re NOT the minority:- they’re the majority. The rest of the Arab Sunni community won’t stand idly by if the Iraqi Sunnis are seen to be ethnically cleansed or persecuted.
This won’t produce “winning dirty” (whatever that’s supposed to mean) - it will just internationalise the current de facto civil war. The conflict will spill over Iraq’s borders and expand into a general regional conflagration.
US troops will be stuck in the middle, ostensibly supporting the minority (and Iran-backed) side. Some victory huh?
What a fuckup!
May 10th, 2007 at 6:53 pm“seales vault†Hmmmm, is your “assistant†not around to clean up your dribble?
Comment by Zooey
LOL
May 10th, 2007 at 6:55 pmZoooey - Responding to your ignorant assumptions about my life is a waste of my time. The only thing you might believe are notarized copies of my birth certificate, diplomas, marriage certificate, my childrens’ birth certificates, my bar card, my business card - - and I’m just not even going to go there. You are one twisted sister…..and as open minded as a sealed vault.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:56 pmOne correction:
Kondracula is the far-right counter-weight to the far-far-right Barnes.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:58 pmTwisted Sister?!!?
You are the “Poster Child”, my dear.
Toodles……
(yack)
May 10th, 2007 at 7:00 pmJust amazing.
Let’s invade a sovereign nation, overthrow the dictator, try him, and find him guilty of atrocities such as ethnic cleansing of Kurds and THEN let’s advocate for the ethnic cleansing of the less American-friendly minority so there is an American-friendly regime in place!
Yep, sounds like typical solid American foreign policy to me.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:00 pm#69 Not So Smart Hag
You are one twisted sister…..and as open minded as a sealed vault.
Comment by valiant venus
Ah, you dragged your assistant away from the open gas oven. Thanks.
I wouldn’t believe a single document you placed in front of me, even if the alleged god himself was vouching for you.
It’s disturbing that it means so much to you. Have you ever tried counseling?
May 10th, 2007 at 7:01 pmZoooey - Responding to your ignorant assumptions about my life is a waste of my time. Comment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
Considering how everything you post about yourself has been exposed as a BIG FAT LIE - that’s true!
The only thing you might believe are notarized copies of my birth certificate, diplomas, marriage certificate, my childrens’ birth certificates, my bar card, my business card - - and I’m just not even going to go there. Comment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
Or stories and *values* that don’t constantly contradict themselves, and demonstrate the implausibility of your *cover* identity. Don’t ever go into *spy* work, you’re too st*pid, and incompetent to be worthwhile to anyone but our enemies.
You are one twisted sister…..and as open minded as a sealed vault. Comment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
Pure Projection as usual, from the st*pid Nazi C*nt.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:03 pmZooey’s playing with her food again. Bad Zooey.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:03 pmI agree that the Saudis ( and the Syrians and Jordanians) would not sit Idly by and watch the Sunnis get massacred. While the Sunnis are a minorty in Iraq ( Got that Mr. President?) they are a majority of the Muslims and a Big Majority of the Arabs. Unfortunately, 80% of the Middle Eastern Oil is under Shiite populated lands. If this situation gets “Dirty”, I hope you have free parking for your car.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:04 pmI wonder how Kondrakes’ comments are being received by folks in the cafes and homes in the Middle East. I’m betting Al Jazera will mention it.
It’s disturbing that it means so much to you. Have you ever tried counseling? Comment by Zooey — May 10, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Someone as Waco as Mighty C*nt always thinks everyone else is the Crazy… What a sad pathetic excuse for a human being that little bag of sh*t is.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:04 pmKONDRACKE: Yes. Absolutely. I mean, if there was ever somebody who matched the - the old saying, “Hanging is too good for him,” it’ Saddam Hussein. He’s - he got convicted of killing 148 people, but he was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and even more Iranians.
BARNES: I saw some of the mass graves when I went to Iraq a couple of years ago, and I - look, I rank Saddam with Hitler, Mao and Stalin as one of the great mass killers of all time.
KONDRACKE: Yes…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,240681,00.html
May 10th, 2007 at 7:05 pmZooey’s playing with her food again. Bad Zooey.
Comment by gummitch
That was brilliant!
May 10th, 2007 at 7:06 pmIn another thread someone once said that ignoring the ‘trolls’ would make them go away. It worked.
Ignore them and don’t fall for their obnoxious baiting.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:07 pmZooey’s playing with her food again. Bad Zooey.
Comment by gummitch
When I’m good, I’m very good. But when I’m bad, I’m better.
–Mae West (mangled, to be sure)
May 10th, 2007 at 7:08 pmZooooette - You believe nothing I (or God Almighty) would say to you, accuse me of not responding to your unbelievability…..why do you waste your time?? You poor, pathetic….thing.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:09 pm“Zooey’s playing with her food again. Bad Zooey.”
Comment by gummitch
It’s hard to play with her food with a strait-jacket on……….
May 10th, 2007 at 7:11 pmZooey, she is hard to ignore. I’m reminded of a line from a Zappa song:
“I may be vile and pernicious,
May 10th, 2007 at 7:12 pmBut you can’t look away…”
Miniblue saw Haggett’s My Space.
Said she looked like a “Bar Wench”
Oh, out of the mouths of babes……….
:D
May 10th, 2007 at 7:13 pm#81 Poor Pitiful Haggie
I don’t know why you seek my attention to such an extent.
Maybe there’s a lesson to be learned in “The Book of Virtues?”
Please settle…..or no baloot for dessert.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:13 pm“I make you think I’m delicious,
May 10th, 2007 at 7:14 pmwith the things that I say…”
Saddam Hussein. He’s - he got convicted of killing 148 people, but he was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and even more Iranians.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:15 pmHow can these conservative commentators ignore the fact that when Saddam was doing all this killing, he was America’s ally.?? There was a vote in congress to cut agriculatural aid to Iraq after he gassed the Kurds, and our congress voted it down as too EXTREME!
why don’t you just go to some chat room with that sh*t talk? I am sure Yahoo would allow you to form a group where you all could get off.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:16 pmI think she has a girl- crush on you, Zooey.
But of course she must disguise her lust for you with anger, rather than face the truth.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:18 pmIt’s hard to play with her food with a strait-jacket on……….
Comment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
More projection. Or maybe it’s hard for her food to fight back, when it should BE in a straitjacket like you?
Poor little st*pid c*nt! You actually believe everyone else is screwed up - how SAD for you!
May 10th, 2007 at 7:22 pmBut of course she must disguise her lust for you with anger, rather than face the truth. Comment by trueblue — May 10, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
Well we have an eating disorder, some serious gender confusion, an inflated sense of self worth and value, she’s pretty much a PHD research paper on abnormal psychology. Poor little hateful piece of sh*t. You could have pity for her, if she wasn’t such a whiny spiteful little c*nt.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:23 pmComment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
A 28% fool. There is something sick and dishonest about any female who professes to be a troglodyte supporter. Assraped as a child or something.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:24 pmWow, I wonder what other minorities in Kondracke’s mind don’t know their place?
“so far they’ve refused to accept that they’re a minority. They will have to do so eventually, one way or another.â€
May 10th, 2007 at 7:27 pmjust $19 billion annually can end starvation and $15 billion provides water and sanitation all over the world.
Comment by ellec — May 10, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
I like that, “JUST” $19 billion annually. You left out “from American tax payers handed over to leaders who are already stealing aid sent to help their people. But they wouldn’t steal any of the $19 billion, would they? ;)
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any civilized nation or even uncivlized nation would not allow such racist remarks on tele - they would be fired immediately
Im shocked and that takes quite a lot
Comment by Tobey Tall — May 10, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
In other words, no country would allow racist remarks on television? They do. It’s commonly known as freedom of speech and can be regulated by viewers turning the channel.
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Kondracke Advocates Ethnic Cleansing…
“Kondracke, the “left-leaning†counterpart to Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes on Fox News’ The Beltway Boys, acknowledges that his “winning dirty†policy will lead to ethnic cleansing:”
Once again, a TP headline misleads. Rather like the one that said 11 Republicans “berated” Bush, when the article said they “pleaded” with Bush. Sounds like the writers are getting a little carried away.
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this is the best way to deal with terrorism, war, and anger, right? just kill and maim everyone who opposes the imperial power.
Comment by stopthecons — May 10, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
The insurgents can either cooperate and have a minority representation in the elected government, or we can leave and let the majority kill them off. I’m thinking, if I was an insurgent, maybe I’d settle for the minority position. But, hey, the choice is theirs.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:27 pmAuntie Hag,
More of your made-up stories, please!
May 10th, 2007 at 7:28 pm#53 Comment by Tobey Tall — May 10, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
Thanks for the link! Fascinating!
I remember while selling back in the mid 60s that this exact proposal was being pushed by neo Nazis, The couched with an anology about “long beaked bugs vs short beaked bugs” trying to get food through the thick bark of a tree. All about the survival of the fittest. (If the bark was thick one year etc.)
Poor Darwin must be spinning in his grave at the way his name is being used.
These neo Nazis never disappear! Today they are called neocons. My, aren’t we being politically correct these days. These neo Nazis should be called by their real name so their evil philosophy could be more easily seen.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:29 pmBaloot
(Phillipines) (This is spelled Baloot, Baalut, Baluge, or Balute.) Half-hatched chicken egg. A baluge is a fifteen- or sixteen-day fertilized chicken egg. Open an egg and pop a sixteen-day-old incomplete chicken fetus into your mouth, complete with partially formed feathers, feet, eyeballs, and blood vessels showing through the translucent skin of the chick. My grandfather told me about this. He says the bad part is picking the feathers out of your teeth
ewwwwwwwww!
May 10th, 2007 at 7:38 pm#90 Comment by trueblue — May 10, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
I think she has a girl- crush on you, Zooey.
But of course she must disguise her lust for you with anger, rather than face the truth.
Oh, oh, Zooey, you really got too smooth with my sweetie. Now look who is in trouble!
May 10th, 2007 at 7:39 pmGood thing I am not the jealous sort.
Let’s spell it…
Konsentrashun camps
Then nobody’ll figure it out.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:41 pmOh, oh, Zooey, you really got too smooth with my sweetie. Now look who is in trouble!
Good thing I am not the jealous sort.
Comment by Merlin
Self-loathing woman….she’ll never be at peace with herself. :D
May 10th, 2007 at 7:45 pmWow, I wonder what other minorities in Kondracke’s mind don’t know their place?
“so far they’ve refused to accept that they’re a minority. They will have to do so eventually, one way or another.â€
Comment by ds
Precisely. In Kondracke’s mind “minority” equates with “powerless”, “useless”, “disposable.”
His imaginary Shi’ite government will, of course, be so grateful to their liberators that they will sign over oil rights to Western companies, and everything can go back to being safe and secure for resource removal.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:46 pmBaloot
ewwwwwwwww!
Comment by trueblue
Now, now, it’s Haggie’s favorite, especially with a nice glass of sugar tea.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:46 pm#97 Comment by trueblue — May 10, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
He says the bad part is picking the feathers out of your teeth
ewwwwwwwww!
Good description of troll food, wouldn’t you say?
May 10th, 2007 at 7:47 pm#102 Comment by Zooey — May 10, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
Now, now, it’s Haggie’s favorite, especially with a nice glass of sugar tea.
You one upped me here! I posted mine which should be seen now, before I read your better post. Bravo!
May 10th, 2007 at 7:50 pmThe Sunnis in Iraq have been reluctant to cooperate with the Iraqi Government, and have even threatened to quit. Maybe Kondrakes comments are an orchestrated Trial Balloon to get their attention, and remind them of their perilous situation.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:53 pmYou one upped me here! I posted mine which should be seen now, before I read your better post. Bravo!
Comment by Merlin
Sorry, Merlin. :)
I’m headed back to studying.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:55 pmA Dirty War would invalidate the UN resolution giving the coalition a mandate to secure Iraq. And it would open all coaltion members, both in Iraq and at home, to charges of War Crimes.
Saudi Arabia has already stated it would invade Iraq to defend the Sunni population if the Americans are unable to protect them. And the Saudi King has refered to it as an illegal occupation.
BTW, the Sunni population may be a minority, but they form between 35-40% of the Muslim population. That is, about 8 million people. It doesn’t exactly sound like it will be a cakewalk to suppress these people. In fact, wasn’t Falluja an example of ethnic cleansing and dirty war? Did it work? Or did it turn more Iraqis against the Great Satan that is America.
ValianttheVenushater is, of course, eager to follow in her mentor Henry Kissinger’s footsteps as she orders the “disappearance of thousands of Iraqis suspected of not being WASPs. “What? You don’t recognize our Lord Jesus Christ as being bigger than Allah? Let me introduce you to a man who makes Jack Bauer look like a wimp.”
May 10th, 2007 at 7:56 pmSo, the answer to Saddam is creating a Shite “Saddam” rule. And for this…how many Americans and innocent Iraqis have died? And ultimately, Iran will control and then perhaps even absorb Iraq. And the Kurds will be done, as they have been betrayed over and over again through many decades. Insanity.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:58 pmBadger, what have you been smoking?
Ahem, the Sunni Iraqis are part of the Iraqi government, you idiot. Of course you probably thought those Texas Democrats who boycotted the gerrymandering of the districts were criminals who should have been jailed for hiding outside of the state.
Now, threatening members of the Iraqi legislature with genocide invalidates the UN resolution granting the coalition a mandate to secure Iraq. Unless you intend to rename the USMC the Waffen-SS, I suggest you give it up, Badger and start behaving like you have some of this blood on your hands.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:02 pmThe fatal flaw in Bush’s plan to topple Saddam and bring Democracy to Iraq….Shiite Majority. True before we invaded…true today.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:05 pmDavid… I KNOW Sunnis are part of the Govt. How can you threaten to Quit something, if you aren’t part of it.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:12 pmI am suggesting that Kondrakes comments may have been orchestrated ….not by ME …maybe by Cheney… to scare the Sunnis into accepting a deal. And ad hominems don’t make your points any more valid.
Radical K*ranimal Sunnis and Shiites are already “ethnically cleansing†each other…..pitiful isn’t it? But in examining the way Shiites and Kurds were suppressed, tortured and executed on a wholesale basis during the “good ‘ol Saddam†days (which Progs seem to miss), I’m not surprised…..
Well too bad someone should have told the President and the clueless necons this would happen.
“There’s a certain amount of pop psychology in America that the Shia can’t get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq just want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There’s almost no evidence of that at all. Iraq’s always been very secular.” - Weekly Standard Editor, Fox News pundit, and TIME Magazine columnist Bill Kristol just after the Iraq War started:
May 10th, 2007 at 8:16 pmSee, we told you the war would be too hard, we’re a bunch of pussies, we just want to want to be outraged and not do a damn thing about anything because we might fail
May 10th, 2007 at 8:30 pm#97 - It’s duck egg and not all that bad.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:34 pmMr. President. Speaking of failure, where is Osama? True or False…Al Zawahiri..al Qaeda’s number 2 wants us to stay in Iraq? True or false… Al Qaeda’s influence in the Arab World has Increased since we Invaded Iraq???
May 10th, 2007 at 8:38 pmIt’s duck egg and not all that bad.
Comment by Dreary Urbanite
Would you like a glass of sugar tea to wash that down?
May 10th, 2007 at 8:38 pmHaggie wasn’t allowed dessert this evening.
>You don’t wish Saddam were still in power
>and we had never gone into Iraq??
Smart people do. Care to explain why your hero Reagan agreed with us about who beleive saddam the lesser of two evils? Care to tell us where your blessed mnemonically challenged messsiah went wrong with his decision to support saddam?
And by the way, ZOoey is 100 percent right.. your a 100 percent fake. your an anorexic, self loathing non-lawyer non military methhead with more hair on her arms than her hair. I’ve repeatedly asked you questions anyone whose really a lawyer would know, and you repeatedly dodge the questions. No ones asking for your tax returns, they are just asking for information anyone whose in the position you claim to be would know. I hate that im giving you attention, because frankly, being a troll is the pinnacle of your lonely, hateful existence.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:43 pm“more hair on her arms than her head”. sorry im drunk…
May 10th, 2007 at 8:43 pmI’m sorry, Badger. Your comment didn’t place your observation in context and so I took it to mean you advocated threatening the Sunni. My apologies.
Of course, the Bush White House has marginalized the Sunnis from the start. And the Shi’a who would collaborate with the Americans are thought of as scum.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:47 pm“more hair on her arms than her headâ€. sorry im drunk…
Comment by Choclate Jesus loves anulingus
It’s the best way to dela with that Hag.
Unfortunately, I’m stone-cold sober.
And studying……
May 10th, 2007 at 8:47 pm#116 – Zooey, I suppose a sugar tea would have to do. Primo beer is more traditional but I am no longer allowed. By not bad I meant the taste. Baalut looks like something out of a nightmare.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:51 pmDreary Urbanite,
Why do you think our Haggie loves it so? :P
May 10th, 2007 at 8:56 pmWe never give her alcohol — for obvious reasons.
Ooh - MA got snotted while I was on the plane….. but still no ‘dead baby’ joke…. plenty of MA strawmen, which of course have already dried up and blown away.
Oh and Mort - the word you are looking for is ‘untermensch’…. you’re welcome.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:21 pm…google Roll Call- mort kondracke…
…and send a letter to the editor…
…kondracke is evil…
…and EVIL must be confronted on every level…
…every time it rears its disgusting visage…
May 10th, 2007 at 9:22 pmMort wrote a book about the death of his wife, Millie (?), who died of a very rapidly progressing parkinsons disease (the same disease my father has). It was a terrible, terrible experience for him. Some people arrive at a new understanding about our shared humanity through such experiences. Others are warped terribly. I leave it to you to decide in which way Mort was affected.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:24 pm‘know of only one Member of Congress who backs it — and he wants to stay anonymous.”
That ‘one Member of Congress’? — Joe Biden. Joe supports the break-up of Iraq plan.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:27 pmBiden’s a tool - plagarist of a piss poor Brit politician’s speeches. At least pick a successful politician, Joe. Fathead.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:32 pm#35 - Zoooette
Comment by valiant venus — May 10, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Truth hurts vagrant venom. You are a twisted, hateful, white trash freak. But you’re delusional sense of self importance is nothing but psychotic.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:47 pmGet help or go away.
why do you waste your time?? You poor, pathetic….thing.
Comment by valiant venus
Why don’t you answer this question. You have no friends here. Nobody but you thinks you are intelligent. If we wanted to know what Rush had to say we would listen. Here’s a hint. He’s a lying idiot and so are you.
Maybe you haven’t noticed because you’re too busy quoting your icons, but every body here likes Zooey and despises you. Is there no where you could go where people respect you? If not then maybe you should take a hint.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:59 pm> And studying……
My sympathies.. I just got done with that for the summer. Graduate in november..then take the bar next feb or july and I can start using the “judimicial systim” to get some justice around here…
May 11th, 2007 at 1:30 amNice Democracy spreading…
May 11th, 2007 at 7:20 amWe should acknowledge some of the painful truth in Kondracke’s comment. Civil wars are usually of the most vicious and immoral kind, and they are nearly always ended by complete suppression of one side (Romans, Nazis in Ukriane, US Civil War) or by fatigue on both sides (Northern Ireland). The civil war in Iraq will play out like other civil wars, and the longer the US stays there the longer it will last.
Kondrake fails to include the Saudi Arabian and other Sunni nations in his conclusion, but if the US was up to some diplomacy, maybe a peace could be brokered with SA, Iranian, Syrian, Jordanian, (regional) cooperation, with US pulling out as part of the deal.
May 11th, 2007 at 8:25 amIt’s about time someone starts desensitizing the nation to the inevitable. We all know the conseqences of anything but a permanent occupation. Of course, if it’s on Faux News, you make the guy who’s supposed to be the leftist do all the dirty work for you.
I’m not with the not-so-small matter of finding Shia “friendly to the US.” Translate that into “puppet government.” That ain’t gonna happen unless we’re there forever.
So what’ll it be, permanent occupation or let them settle their own differences? I say, let them settle their own differences.
May 11th, 2007 at 8:43 amValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — could you please refrain from using such epithets as st*pid Nazi C*nt and the like? It doesn’t have nearly the affect on your advisaries as you would like, it adds nothing to your point, and actually, only serves to makes you look adolescent.
May 11th, 2007 at 9:20 amMy sympathies.. I just got done with that for the summer. Graduate in november..then take the bar next feb or july and I can start using the “judimicial systim†to get some justice around here…
Comment by Choclate Jesus loves anulingus
Cool. Good luck with the bar (way ahead of time, I know). I’m finishing my first semester today. I love it, and although I need a break, I can’t wait for fall. :)
May 11th, 2007 at 11:34 amA plan B???
The 80% “democracy” solution in Iraq. Wipe out or supress the Sunnis. What an insane and evil proposition.
Wasn’t this idea bantered about by Cheney?
How is this kind of thinking any better than Saddam’s rule (except the supressed and murdered were Shiite and Kurds)?
The neoconjob talking heads are clearly loosing their cool.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:36 pmHe’s not advocating ethnic cleansing. He’s being critical of Bush, suggesting that’s where this might lead. This site needs to get its propaganda straight.
May 11th, 2007 at 2:00 pmIt is the only end game here. You bleeding heart idealists can continue to delude yourselve’s by thinking we are all the same……all part of the human race….all wanting, thinking, and doing the same. And that any strife or unrest is due to some evil greedy corporation.
Actually things aren’t that black and white. Cultures are affected by their histories, religions, economic policies, and form of government. Muslims will be fighting forever. Their religions “differences” are insurmountable due to their mindsets. An eye for an eye….forever. Same with the Jews and the Palestinians. Their histories are too intertwined and laced with bad blood, death, and retribution.
We thought we could help create a democratic government that would serve as a catalyst for the greater region, encouraging pro-western democracies. Woops! Didn’t quite work out that way. The Iraquis don’t have a strong enough national identity. They are too fractionalized and view themselves more as different tribes than Iraquis. All they know is oppression and domination. They cannot concieve of living side by side with a Sunni/Shia. They can only think of dominating the other faction.
Yes, some Iraquis are willing to die for their country, but far too few. Until they decide they want to live in a modern and civil manner (and yes, that means accepting a neighbor who believes something different than you religiously), they will always be fighting. Unfortunately many innocent’s are caught up in this ignorance….themselves too ignorant to know what the solution is.
The fact is that the Middle East has bred a type of person that needs a strong handed dictator. They crave it. As dysfunctional as these societes are, they would be more so without dictators. We must accept these differences and focus on limiting how much this can hurt us.
If areas allow terrosists to train, blow it up. Period. Do not let some madman get nukes (think Iran). Protect oil interests, as the world economy runs on it…………which won’t change anytime soon. That is real politik. That is what works……………not what we wish could work.
We are there. Who cares if we should have ever gone. What do we do now? Pull out and leave a vacuum for al quaeda and anti American forces supported by Iran and Syria? I think not.
Just remember. Without oil revenues the middle eastern countries would be even poorer. They profit immensely from being the winners of the geological lottery. Their problem is that they have bad governments that are corrupt, inneficient, lack capitaistic tendencies, lack civil liberties, lack a fair court system, lack business law that protects business and intellectual propeties, etc. …………on and on.
These countries only need look at their own leaders to find the cause of their failure. But it sure is easier and politically expedient to blame teh “great satan”.
May 11th, 2007 at 2:00 pmrealpolitik = the most dominant and brutal gorilla rules
May 11th, 2007 at 3:46 pmAaron you hit it right on…! Alot of people are too idealistic and expect an easy fix with no blood shed. Middle east attitudes are dysfunctional. They only understand violence. Of course innocent people get caught up in this situation.
May 11th, 2007 at 3:56 pmThat sucks. I dont blame them if they do flea and become refugees. I would if i live there.
Wait, Kondrake just supports letting the Shites and Kurds to have more liberty and suppressing the Sunni Partisans. Hells bells ladies and gentlemen, that is the exact result if the US exits Iraq anytime soon. Basically Kondracke might as well say, let’s arm the Iraqi government to the teeth and then leave. Really, how many of you who support leaving Iraq realize this is what will happen: civil war similar (if not more brutal) to the combat in Bosnia and Kosovo. I do; do I care? HELL NO! Let the Iraqis solve this problem on their own without shedding anymore American blood.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:59 pmAbsolutely disgusting! The only way forward in Iraq is to get the two/three sides talking to each other. Negotiations will win through in the end. No issue is unresolveable given sufficient time and energy on the part of the mediators.
It will take time. During the negotiations, some level of violence will continue. But this is the price we must pay. We must not resort to “winning dirty” regardless of the cost. Given the rate of progress in trying to get the parties to the table, this effort will take years, perhaps decades. I dont know how many will die in the interim, but we must not “win dirty”.
May 11th, 2007 at 6:40 pmOnce the obvious but unstated reason has become explicit–that the US is in Iraq to control its oil–then “winning dirty” will become the next “Oo-rah!”
“The USA is the only country that has the means and will to PROTECT AND DEFEND the world’s MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE. Therefore, as Commander in Chief, I will stop at nothing to ensure that these PRECIOUS WORLD RESOURCES are protected for the benefit of citizens the world over who need the blessings of oil and capitalism, etc., etc.”
Once the PSAs are forced down the collective Iraqi throat, Bush will declare “Troops home by Christmas!” and the PMCs will start waving dollars at soldiers just about to leave Iraq. The PMCs will station themselves around the oil fields and facilities. Then the recruitment via TV will start: “Work in Iraq! Excitement! Money! No laws! Free-fire zones! Make your own videos! Torture, rape, and murder! Wackenhut doesn’t care.”
“Be sure to ask about our Repatriation Program, in partnership with Homeland Security–go straight from shooting in Mosul to shooting in Memphis!”
May 13th, 2007 at 1:23 pm