ThinkFast: May 10, 2007
ThinkFast: May 10, 2007
Tony Blair, a man “whose decade of achievements have faded into the shadows of the Iraq war,” said Thursday that he will step down as British prime minister on June 27. As the war “turned from a military cakewalk to the nightmarish years-long aftermath, Blair’s popularity ratings dived; they stand at just 28 percent today,” the same level as President Bush.
“The former U.S. attorney in Kansas City, MO, Todd P. Graves, said yesterday that he was asked to step down from his job by a senior Justice Department official in January 2006, months before eight other federal prosecutors would be fired by the Bush administration.”
“The Pentagon has placed unprecedented restrictions on who can testify before Congress, reserving the right to bar lower-ranking officers, enlisted soldiers, and career bureaucrats from appearing before oversight committees or having their remarks transcribed.”
59 percent: The proportion of black respondents who described their lives as “disrupted” more than a year after Hurricane Katrina, “double that of whites who said the same (29 percent).”
Congress plans to “introduce a bill this morning that would increase by at least 20,000 the number of Iraqi refugees eligible for resettlement in the United States in 2007 and 2008. It would also admit 15,000 ‘special immigrant status‘ Iraqis and their families for each of the next four years.”
World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz was given until Friday evening — two additional days — to make his case in writing against charges of misconduct before the Bank board decides his future. In the meantime, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has been lobbying European foreign ministers, expressing her support for Wolfowitz.
A report released by Sen. Edward Kennedy yesterday revealed that four Education Department officials “who helped oversee a federal reading program for young students have pocketed significant sums of money from textbook publishers that profited from the $1 billion-a-year initiative.”
The House Armed Services Committee is considering a measure would cut $764 million from funds for President Bush’s missile defense program. A statistical analysis conducted by the Center for American Progress bolsters the case for funding cuts, finding the threat from ballistic missiles has steadily declined over the past 20 years.
And finally: Yesterday, President Bush toured tornado-ravaged Greensburg, KS. The AP reports that in the midst of the solemnity, Bush was able to joke around. “He briefly grabbed a chain saw, ripping it into action for the cameras and other media that accompanied him. ‘How are you all?’ Bush asked as he moved among residents. ‘Stylish looking hat,’ he joked to a man in a green fedora.”
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Bush was able to joke around. “He briefly grabbed a chain saw, ripping it into action for the cameras and other media that accompanied him. ‘How are you all?’ Bush asked as he moved among residents. ‘Stylish looking hat,’ he joked to a man in a green fedora.â€
All that idiot is capable of is joking around. Once an Andover cheerleader always an Andover cheerleader. I only wish that when he walked up behind the leader of Germany and grabbed her shoulders, that she had turned around and belted the little prick.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:18 am“The Kansas Chainsaw Massacre”
May 10th, 2007 at 9:20 amstarring George ‘Whacker’ Bush
Both Winston Churchill and Harry Truman had lower “approval” ratings — history will judge all.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:21 amMarine Says Urinated on Dead Iraqi at Haditha
May 10th, 2007 at 9:22 amCAMP PENDLETON, California (Reuters) – Angered that a beloved member of his squad had been killed in an explosion, a U.S. Marine urinated on one of the 24 dead Iraqi civilians killed by his unit in Haditha, the Marine testified on Wednesday.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:23 amSgt. Sanick Dela Cruz, who has immunity from prosecution after murder charges against him were dismissed, also said he watched his squad leader shoot down five Iraqi civilians who were trying to surrender.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:24 amI only wish that when he walked up behind the leader of Germany and grabbed her shoulders, that she had turned around and belted the little prick.
Comment by Ben Dover — May 10, 2007 @ 9:18 am
My wife would have put him in the hospital if he tried that with her.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:26 am“He briefly grabbed a chain saw, ripping it into action for the cameras and other media that accompanied him. ‘How are you all?’ Bush asked as he moved among residents. ‘Stylish looking hat,’ he joked to a man in a green fedora.â€
And around 30% of Americans still support this man. Hell they don’t just support him they worship him.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:27 amI put this in the other thread but it fits better in the OPEN THREAD
What if BUSH uses his now infamous “Signing Statement” regarding the War Funding Bill??
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-threat-to-sue-bush-over-iraq-bill-2007-05-08.html
May 10th, 2007 at 9:30 amhttp://progressive.org/mag_mc050907
This is what we have become under this facist regime.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:31 amI had some interesting conversation last night. A young Marine recently back from his second tour of duty in Iraq relayed his thoughts. He received a purple heart when his vehicle was hit by an IED. He said a few things that were very interesting. He tried to be friendly with every Iraqi he ran into and they were usually friendly with him and his buddies, however he knew that any one of them for as little as $20 would try to kill him so he never trusted any of them. He frequently did have violent encounters with people who had previously been very friendly. The poverty is so rampant there that for some of these people the only way to get $$ is to fight against us or against the other side (shia/sunni/kurd). Even if it meant the death of the individual the $$ received would help their family so they do it anyway.
When asked about the political situation here in the US he said that nothing done here affects their morale because they just don’t watch the news. They don’t have time to watch the news or think about much besides their job. Anytime they take to think about things outside of their work takes their mind off their work and makes them lose focus so they just don’t do it. He has been interviewed on at least one nationally televised news program and been on the front page of a couple major news papers in photos. Yet he still did not spend time thinking about the politics of the US. This actually mirrors what my experience was, we rarely talked about what the politics of the country were good or bad, which makes me wonder about those who claim to be veterans who continually talk about how news from congress saps their morale.
He was asked about the army vs. marines and their level of preparedness. He felt sorry for the army guys who have to patrol in humvees (humvees were never meant to be combat vehicles, but that is what they have become) He always worked out of armored vehicles, except when the passages were too narrow for vehicles, then he went on foot. He also felt bad for the NG and reservists in Iraq as it was obvious that they had not had enough time to ramp up their training prior to moving in country. They were out of shape and generally had very poor quality equipment. The regular Army guys were better prepared than the guard and reservists.
Lastly he has nightmares, wakes up in the middle of the night sweating and can’t get back to sleep. He hears a boom and his mind goes back to Iraq. When he drives he swerves his vehicle suddenly to avoid manhole covers or to move away from a pile of trash on the side of the road etc… Though he was wounded sometimes the casualties are not always suffering only physical wounds. His term is up shortly and he is not planning on reenlisting.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:34 am“The Pentagon has placed unprecedented restrictions on who can testify before Congress, reserving the right to bar lower-ranking officers, enlisted soldiers, and career bureaucrats from appearing before oversight committees or having their remarks transcribed.â€
Janitorial personnel will have a muzzle order too.
World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz was given until Friday evening — two additional days — to make his case in writing against charges of misconduct before the Bank board decides his future. In the meantime, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has been lobbying European foreign ministers, expressing her support for Wolfowitz.
So the person in the Board of Directors when Chevron was giving kickbacks to Saddam to elude the Oil for Food program, is the “diplomatic” in charge to defend the person responsible of giving kickbacks to his fiancee while in charge?
Crook and crooker.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:34 amWell it could be voter fraud
Academy Award-winning filmmaker Michael Moore is under investigation by the
May 10th, 2007 at 9:36 amTreasury Department for taking ailing Sept. 11 rescue workers to Cuba for a segment in his upcoming health-care documentary “Sicko,” The Associated Press has learned.
President Bush toured tornado-ravaged Greensburg, KS. The AP reports that in the midst of the solemnity, Bush was able to joke around. “He briefly grabbed a chain saw, ripping it into action…
Like Mother, like Son. These silver spoon sissies suspect bad things only happen to poor & underprivileged people.
Nice, Bushie. Nice. F’n jerk.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:36 amItaly: Silvio Berluskoni……Lost election and no longer there,Italy is withdrawing their troops from Iraq
Spain :Jose Aznar..Lost election and Spain called their troops from Iraq.
England: Tony Blair…is resigning,and England is withdrawing their troops from Iraq.
The three supported Bush in every way to start this war; from UN support to military support,but now it is reality time.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:36 amSmoke & Mirrors – Liars & Thieves – Steal & Conceal – Bush & Blair – “Partners In Crime”!!
Sorry to see Bush’s poodle go but don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Blair!
May 10th, 2007 at 9:39 amThe cavalcade of corruption daily is taking on avalanche proportions – way too much for the average american to process! It’s overwhelming and disgusting to realize that just about everything in this country is going down the toilet and swiftly!
I don’t even know where to begin to comment on this daily litany of debouchery, thievery, lies, and deceit, do you?
May 10th, 2007 at 9:41 amfyi – “Jake” is Exley
see
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/09/congress-not-told-of-major-covert-action/#comments
posts 168 & 171
May 10th, 2007 at 9:46 ami saw the clip of dubby starting the chainsaw… he looked at the reporters and camera as if saying “see… i can do it… i can start this chainsaw…
May 10th, 2007 at 9:49 amit takes a MAN to start a chainsaw… a commander guy… ’s hard work”…
…
What exactly is the Pentagon trying to hide by gagging it’s lower-ranking officers and NCOs? I’m not even sure it can do so legally. Unless the orders are coming from His Highness, the C-in-C.
The likely Congressional questions: Do you feel things are working in Iraq? Is it getting better or worse? Do you feel adequately equipped? Properly trained? Do you know of atrocities? Killings of civilians, torture of prisoners, coverups of crimes? If so, who was in charge?
May 10th, 2007 at 9:51 amIn general, resettling more Iraq refugees here is a bad idea. It makes the Iraq war look like more of a failure than it already is and I don’t think it’s a risk the country should take. Iraq needs the citizenry to help sustain itself.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:55 amHow many troops died in Iraq?
May 10th, 2007 at 9:56 amI need some good news.
More deaths=more votes!
18, BnF,
Good catch!
These Trolls use Bush tactics daily; lying, making shit up, pretending to be something / somebody they’re not.
Jakexley is also supposed to be 75 yrs. old, served in the Civil War for the Confederates, is a child prodigy, cross dresses, is an attorney for bail bonds, memorized the Constitution, was both first & last in his college graduation & manicured Ronald Reagan’s feet.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:56 amWow! Nice resume, Jakeass.
I have to ask, could Jake also be ‘Valianthehater’?
May 10th, 2007 at 9:56 amRe: Jake=Exley.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:57 amYes, and probably Patrick1, too.
I’ve come to think all the trolls are a couple of persons. I notice that several seem to be basic dramatic personae: that is, a distinctive character style of syntax with a signature such as “Toodles” or “HEY, DUDE” or something. The styles are far more distinctive than if they were genuine as one would expect from an impressionist.
Hey guys we thank the Islamic State of Iraq resistance group for helping us.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:59 amBy causing chaos in Iraq and killing people it helps us politically!
We should be grateful.
24, Joe,
May 10th, 2007 at 9:59 amI think that character only comes out of Jakexley when his Bipolar swings to the vicious side.
More deaths=more votes!
Comment by Gerald Gibson Sr. — May 10, 2007 @ 9:56 am
Coward!
Still name jacking, I see!
May 10th, 2007 at 10:00 amTypical.
Pathetic.
#22 is a namejacking
May 10th, 2007 at 10:02 am59 percent: The proportion of black respondents who described their lives as “disrupted†more than a year after Hurricane Katrina, “double that of whites who said the same (29 percent).â€
by thinkprogress.org
well maybe if Blanco and Mayor Nagin would get their act together things would be better for blacks in New Orleans.
remember that Mayor Nagin wants to make New Orleans, a chocolate city.
Just remember Liberals….New Orleans is a Democratic Party “paradise”. Democrats have controlled New Orleans politics for decades.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:04 amre #20: The pentagon is trying to hide EVERYTHING.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:04 am11 Mark – A useless story of drivel was not worth the effort in typing
May 10th, 2007 at 10:04 amHe’s getting down to business, thats’ all. What, are you afraid of a great leader that actually works? Just like you libby moonbatty fearmongering inslamofascists to run away from a real man.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:05 amSpain :Jose Aznar..Lost election and Spain called their troops from Iraq.
———–Yes, and the Spanish soldier went home embarrassed for their government. they were ashamed that they left their American bretheren fighting a war that the Spanish armed forces knows affects Spain. Let us not forget that despite Spain leaving Iraq, terrorists are still trying to hit Spain. Muslims in Spain are demanding that areas that the Moros were in 400 years ago be given back to them. Spain, just like Europe has a huge Muslim problem. Europeans can stick their head in the sand all they want, but the problem will come home to roost sooner or later.——————-
May 10th, 2007 at 10:07 amAu Revoir, Mon Poodle!
May 10th, 2007 at 10:07 amRomney: Sharpton remark on faith was bigoted
NEW YORK (CNN) — Civil rights activist Al Sharpton, who led the charge to have radio host Don Imus fired for making racially insensitive remarks, is now under fire for a comment about Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith.
During a debate on religion and politics at the New York Public Library with atheist author Christopher Hitchens, Sharpton said, “As for the one Mormon running for office, those that really believe in God will defeat him anyway, so don’t worry about that. That’s a temporary situation.”
So, is there anyone here that is willing to go after Sharpton like they all went after Imus for making a stupid statement?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:07 amJake, can you speak spanish?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:08 amWhat’s really sad is the need for one, who can’t debate/argue, to hijack a name to make stupid a$$ straw man statements, from which the original poster would never comment.
This obviously makes the name jacker fill good about itself, but adds nothing to the thread
I guess this is what’s to be expected, as the intelligence of the remaining 32%’ers keeps decreasing
May 10th, 2007 at 10:09 amA questions for Liberals….
If we leave Iraq and it becomes a humanitarian disaster, will you demand that American troops go back to Iraq like you are currently demanding that American troops go into Darfur?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:09 amFor the record, I am not Exley.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:10 amhow about we all go after you for making ANOTHER stupid statement hacker Bob
May 10th, 2007 at 10:10 amJoe:
Si.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:11 amthanks for that story, mark…
May 10th, 2007 at 10:11 amfirst hand accounts are always the most interesting…
i’m glad you made the effort to relay it to us…
#18, Sorry to burst your bubble, BnF, but Exley is Exley and Exley alone (Although I know quite a few people here wish they were me!)
I don’t post under any other name. Your evidence for your false contention is exceedingly weak. Any discussion of the Military Commissions Act would include a reference to Quirin (a case with which you have demonstrated a continual lack of understanding)…Indeed if you ever get around to reading the Hamdi and Hamdan decisions (I implore you to read them), you will see the U.S. Supreme Court frequently cites Quirin throughout both opinions.
So, your silly assertion that I am the only person who cites Quirin is demonstrably false. Again, I implore you to read the cases.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:12 amSo Spade, how is it drivel? Is it because you are not truly interested in what a real iraq vet has to say? Is ti because it does nto blend well with your ideology? Or is there some other reason?
I’m just passing along thoughts from someone who has been there recently. There is so much more, but I kept it simple. I even left out his most interesting quote, but I’ll add it now.
He said thhat whatever life was like under sadaam it was at least stable. Now everyone is affected by the death and destruction while back then it was only politcal opponants.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:12 amTony Blair will be leaving for America soon please send job Applications to
10 Downing Street
London
ready to start immediately on June 27
I hope my Republican and Democrat Buddies allow me a 10 year Visa
May 10th, 2007 at 10:12 amBush is like King Midas…in reverse. Everything he touches turns into s**t. He’s turning the U.S. into another version of Arbustus.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:12 am#38 – It’s too late to ask for answers, really. We hired you to be a chef, and now that the kitchen is completely engulfed in flames you’re picking nits over what’s going to be on the menu.
Guess what? Time to order Chinese, and get your ass out of the kitchen.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:13 amHacker Bob: I agree with you wholeheartedly and it appears that Al Sharpton suffers from the disorder called: “You spot it/You got it”, doesn’t he? I don’t want to see Democrats engage in a double standard here or the Indepdent Party WILL, in fact, become the largest party soon in this country. Sharpton flapped his jaw when he shouldn’t have, just like Imus. There is no distinction between what Al Sharpton did vis-a-vis Romney’s religion than what Imus said against the soccer team. Absolutely None! Bigotry comes in many forms and it all distills down to the same thing: Overt Bigotry!
Sharpton needs to be admonished for this remark by his constituents; he needs to apologize to the american people for his obvious personal double standard in excoriating Imus for the very same thing and he may need removal from his radio show as well.
No more double standards in this country! We’ve all been burned by a continuous onslaught on double standards and exceptions to the rule of law. It’s time to become vigilant and not only “talk the talk” but “walk the talk” as well or it’s over for this country’s credibility.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:13 amWith any luck, T-Tony will take his side-kick Junior Booosh with him on his way out.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:13 amUmm VV here’s some news for you, Iraq is already becoming a humanitarian disaster and we are there. So what is your point?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:14 am“Still name jacking, I see!”
Acxtually no!
May 10th, 2007 at 10:14 amI’m Gerald’s Dad!
I’ve punished him for being a Jihad supporter.
That’s why he hasn’t been back!
One mans religion is another mans cult…
May 10th, 2007 at 10:15 amIt is all nonsense to me! oui oui
Comment by heyzeus — May 10, 2007 @ 10:10 am
OK, double standard at work, got it
May 10th, 2007 at 10:15 amJakexley,
You have a record?
Does your Mom know about this?
Inquiring minds want to know…
May 10th, 2007 at 10:15 amI think Bush needs to get a new “gonna get to work” look. Those rolled up sleeves just don’t do it anymore, everyone sees through it. I suggest he start wearing t-shirts during these jaunts instead …. and those t-shirts should commemorate all the times he’s pulled up his sleeves … “Crawford Vacation Summer 2001″ or “I went to Katrina ravaged New Orleans, and all I got was this stupid t-shirt”, or some other inspiring inscription.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:16 ambut Exley is Exley and Exley alone (Although I know quite a few people here wish they were me!)
Really? could you please cite examples of “quite a few” who would want to be a 330lb obnoxious, drunk Mets fan?
(sorry, couldn’t resist. Just kidding, of course. But your self imposed over inflated ego on the internet(s) needed a slap down!)
May 10th, 2007 at 10:16 amUK man jailed over Bush memo
Keogh, who copied the document to O’Connor while he was working in the Cabinet Office, said that he acted out of conscience because he believed the document showed Mr Bush to be a “madman”.
http://www.independent.co.uk/
May 10th, 2007 at 10:18 amcomment deleted
May 10th, 2007 at 10:19 amTony Blair: First EVER U.S. War Czar
May 10th, 2007 at 10:19 amComment by veritas — May 10, 2007 @ 10:13 am
Thank you for your honesty. I agree, it is time to end the practice of double standards.
I cna now extinguish my lantern, I found an honest man.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:20 am#
He’s getting down to business, thats’ all. What, are you afraid of a great leader that actually works? Just like you libby moonbatty fearmongering inslamofascists to run away from a real man.
Comment by Scott J — May 10, 2007 @ 10:05 am
HAHA.. Works.. Dubya has been on Vacation 400+ days since taking office.. More than any president, and an incredible amount considering we’re at war. Why aren’t you over there fighting then tough guy?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:20 amDRxJ…..”Really? could you please cite examples of “quite a few‒
Well, there’s….ummmm…..And then there is….errrrrrrr…..Well, what about….????….no, she hates me……Hmmmmm….
Whadda ya know? I guess there ISN’T anybody…..*sigh*
May 10th, 2007 at 10:20 am“The Pentagon has placed unprecedented restrictions on who can testify before Congress, reserving the right to bar lower-ranking officers, enlisted soldiers, and career bureaucrats from appearing before oversight committees or having their remarks transcribed.â€
Really, what is the spin on this trolls? Why doesn’t the pentagon want officers and enlisted personell to testify? If it is true what you are always saying, that things are progressing in Iraq and the troops want to be there, that we are making progress, then why can’t the soldiers tell that to congress?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:21 amUmm VV here’s some news for you, Iraq is already becoming a humanitarian disaster and we are there. So what is your point?
Comment by Mark — May 10, 2007 @ 10:14 am
so Mark, according to you it is a humanitarian aid disaster already, right?
so why are you in the crowd that wants us to leave?
why do so many Liberals want us to go into Darfur, but leave Iraq? care to explain?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:21 am#33 Spain :Jose Aznar..Lost election and Spain called their troops from Iraq.
———–Yes, and the Spanish soldier went home embarrassed for their government.they were ashamed that they left their American bretheren fighting a war that the Spanish armed forces knows affects Spain.
First, not a bit embarrassed. And second, Spanish troops are as of today where they must be: in Afghanistan, seeking for Bin Laden.
Let us not forget that despite Spain leaving Iraq, terrorists are still trying to hit Spain.
Another reason to not fight in two fronts, at home and Iraq. Divide and conquer, remember? I wonder what would happen if there is a great terrorist attack in USA soil, despite of “fighting them there”.
Muslims in Spain are demanding that areas that the Moros were in 400 years ago be given back to them. Spain, just like Europe has a huge Muslim problem. Europeans can stick their head in the sand all they want, but the problem will come home to roost sooner or later.——————-
So we must kick the USA from the military bases here, stablished thanks to the favor of the dictator Franco? And the british from Gibraltar? No problem here, when are you starting to leave?
Comment by valiantthehater — May 10, 2007 @ 10:07 am
I’m still undecided if you’re an ultrarightist Miami cuban, or an ultrarightist exhiled ex-Military Dictator staffer in the USA. Your surname is perhaps Posada or Carriles?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:21 amhttp://english.aljazeera.net/English
Afghan leaders urge Taliban truce
Outraged by the rising number of civilian deaths, Afghan legislators have approved a bill calling for a truce and talks with the Taliban.
The bill passed on Wednesday says military action should be used only in self-defence and calls for a date to be set for the withdrawal of US-led and Nato troops.
The move came as news emerged of US air strikes in Helmand province, southwest of the capital, Kabul, where at least 21 civilians were killed as US and Nato forces went after Taliban fighters.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:22 amAl Sharpton should put in his retirement papers, I agree. He’s not a very intelligent man.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:22 amYesterday, President Bush toured tornado-ravaged Greensburg, KS. The AP reports that in the midst of the solemnity, Bush was able to joke around. “He briefly grabbed a chain saw, ripping it into action for the cameras and other media that accompanied him. ‘How are you all?’ Bush asked as he moved among residents. ‘Stylish looking hat,’ he joked to a man in a green fedora.â€
“Watch this drive” Pas Deux…
May 10th, 2007 at 10:23 amEvil Spaniard,
You’re just a self hating loser.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:26 amYour Spanish on the outside and Anglo on the inside.
Both the House and the Senate have introduced legislation that would require the president to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay within one year from the date of passage.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:27 amVennusethepeniseater Iraq is a mess of our making. Iraq has two armed groups vying for control of the country and we are in the middle of it. With Iraq we can pull back over the horizon and monitor the situation then step in if is becomes genocide. In Darfur one side ibis defenseless and is having war waged upon it. These are apples and oranges here there really is no comparison.
So lets turn the tables. In the 1990’s why were so many conservatives against our (NATO actually) intervening in the former Yugoslavia, yet today they seem to have no trouble intervening in Iraq? Is it because in Iraq we can cause the humanitarian disaster ourselves? There is no good that can come from being in Iraq right now it is time we left and if the situation merits us returning I say we do so under a truly international banner annd not unilaterally.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:29 amComment by The Joker — May 10, 2007 @ 10:26 am
“Clown” fits a lot more. Change the nickname.
And, Anglo? What part of Evil Spaniard you don’t understand?
So you’re an exhiled cuban?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:29 am#61 COWA
Because I have to stay here and fight the war of information. Who else will stop you mediahoarding libby defeatocrat cowards?
May 10th, 2007 at 10:30 am“Outraged by the rising number of civilian deaths, Afghan legislators have approved a bill calling for a truce and talks with the Taliban.”
kind of like what’s already happened in pakistan.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:31 amTAKE TWO:
I put this in the other thread but it fits better in the OPEN THREAD
What if BUSH uses his now infamous “Signing Statement†regarding the War Funding Bill??
http://thehill.com/ leading-the-news/ pelosi-threat-to-sue-bush-over-iraq-bill-2007-05-08.html
What do you all think about this??
May 10th, 2007 at 10:36 am“Because I have to stay here and fight the war of information.
Comment by Scott J — May 10, 2007″
the families of the more than 3300 american soldiers who have died salute your bravery.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:42 am-650,000 dead Iraqis
-approximately 300 murdered each week
-2 million external refugees with another 50,000 per month fleeing
-1.5 million internally displaced
Only a madman would not see that as a humanitarian disaster. And our prescence is what has caused it and keeps it going
May 10th, 2007 at 10:46 am#74 – Throwing the mess to the courts would not exactly encourage a quick resolution.
I’m afraid the answer is to get the soldiers out, and let the country completely fall into chaos and ruin.
Yes, it sucks. But, it’s not like no one predicted that this… exact scenario… was going to happen…
Perhaps Plan B should include a swift evacuation, apologies, mourning, and education on how to prevent future mistakes in the same vein.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:53 amSaywho, a signing statement would make no sense in the funding bill. Signing statements are about execution of the bill, not about gaining new money. Bush can’t write himself a cheque using a signing statement. And this is why I prefer giving him less and less money until he can’t carry on the war any more. You’ll notice the new bill will contain even more provisos than the last. It give Bush even less wiggleroom to make a signing statement.
May 10th, 2007 at 10:59 am11 Mark – A useless story of drivel was not worth the effort in typing
Comment by Spade — May 10, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Mark, great post. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Spade, way to support the troops, by calling their stories drivel. Obviously you feel that listening to the troops is bad. Typical right wing scum bag. I guess scum like you just cannot help revealing your ugly insides.
May 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amComment by david — May 10, 2007 @ 10:59 am
The funding bill that contains time table legislation is the issue. Here is a hypothetical…
Bush signs the bill from congress containing a performance time table. He includes a signing statement stating that he has no intentions of compliance with any or all time tables as he has clearly done with other bills. Congress must still supply the war funding.
See the point now David?
May 10th, 2007 at 11:09 amWas wondering what day Kansas was hit with their tornado.? Been so busy haven’t kept track…..How many day’s did it take bull shit bush to respond on this disaster.? It took the dictator pupett 4 full day’s for his fly over after Katrina….Just curious…Anyone.?.Blessings
May 10th, 2007 at 11:11 amComment by Exley — May 10, 2007 @ 10:12 am
I’ve ready Quirin. The fact that “military commissions” may be Constitutional doesn’t meand that all military commissions are Constitutional.
Under the Military Commissions Act of 2006, all legal immigrants have lost their constitutional rights.
Your turn. Show me how the above statement is false. Use Citations.
May 10th, 2007 at 11:28 am650,000 dead Iraqis
-approximately 300 murdered each week
-2 million external refugees with another 50,000 per month fleeing
-1.5 million internally displaced
Only a madman would not see that as a humanitarian disaster. And our prescence is what has caused it and keeps it going
Comment by klyde — May 10, 2007 @ 10:46 am
—–ah, typical, Liberals that love to blame America first. Did you ever think that maybe if Saddam Hussein hadn’t been in power, had not been the monster he was, we would have never gone into Iraq? why do you Liberals love to blame America first? why? You are an idiot and a true madman if you think that Iraq was not a humanitarian aid disaster BEFORE the USA went into Iraq.
Also as for you 650,000 dead, where did you get this number? are these all the voices in your head telling you that they were killed in Iraq? Not even the UN has this number.
I know where you got it from, communist websites like ANSWER, Code Pink, etc. Sad, sad, Liberals always spewing out the left wing propaganda without thinking first———————————
May 10th, 2007 at 11:29 amDid you ever think that maybe if Saddam Hussein hadn’t been in power, had not been the monster he was, we would have never gone into Iraq?
Comment by valiantthehater
Wasnt the US the country that helped him to get into power? The country that sold him weapons, erasing Iraq out of the terrorist list in Reagan times?
May 10th, 2007 at 11:38 amBut then again, Reagan compared moral quality of Contras with that of the Founding Fathers, so…there is little room for discussion.
comment by valiantthehater
see only a madman
May 10th, 2007 at 11:49 am650,000+ dead in Iraq. The truth again showing it’s liberal bias.
May 10th, 2007 at 11:53 amDoes anyone have a comment on this issue??
The funding bill that contains time table legislation is the issue. Here is a hypothetical…
Bush signs the bill from congress containing a performance time table. He includes a signing statement stating that he has no intentions of compliance with any or all time tables as he has clearly done with other bills. Congress must still supply the war funding.
See the point now David?
http://thehill.com/ leading-the-news/ pelosi-threat-to-sue-bush-over-iraq-bill-2007-05-08.html
May 10th, 2007 at 11:53 amThose American haters at Stars and Stripes and their made up refugee numbers
yea I know I fed the troll but it will be fun to see it’s next lie.
May 10th, 2007 at 11:58 amyea I know I fed the troll but it will be fun to see it’s next lie.
Comment by klyde
You are not feeding him. You are kicking his ass.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:03 pmSo, is there anyone here that is willing to go after Sharpton like they all went after Imus for making a stupid statement?
Comment by hacker bob — May 10, 2007 @ 10:07 am
Shouldn’t you Republicans defend Romney. Don’t Democrats have enough work to do? Why would we give a rat’s ass about Mitt? He has a public forum. He’s already gotten his complaint out. Must you guys reduce everything to he did it too. I’ve never in my life listened to Al Sharpton unless he was on a news show and I was too lazy to change the channel.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pmMark – A useless story of drivel was not worth the effort in typing
Comment by Spade — May 10, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Spade, if you don’t like it, why don’t you just shut up and go away. Most of us found it interesting.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:24 pmJust remember Liberals….New Orleans is a Democratic Party “paradiseâ€. Democrats have controlled New Orleans politics for decades.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 10, 2007 @ 10:04 am
So it’s okay with you if Democrats are left to die and suffer without any relief from the federal government. Well I guess all Democrats should just stop paying taxes since they can’t count on the government to send any relief. Might as well get rid of the Army Corp of Engineers and we’ll all send our money to private contractor to get things like levees repaired.
You are a racist and a liar.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pmComment by Mark — May 10, 2007 @ 10:12 am
Mark, loved your post. Spade is just another jackass troll, easy to recognize, and totally insignificant.
Why do trolls hate the troops?
May 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pmSo a bunch of idiot Democrats decide to sit in New Orleans during a hurricane.
An idiot Democratic mayor leaves hundreds of buses stranded rather than take people out.
An idiot Democratic governor cries on national TV.
I guess it’s Bush’s fault! Wait, I know it is, Cheney has his Hurricanator TX 1000 in the Gulf of Mexico and he generated Katrina with the touch of a button.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:43 pmHacker Bob, I’ll go for it. I say Al Sharpton should apologize and then lose his lucrative radio gig.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:48 pmCan anyone address this issue??
The funding bill that contains time table legislation is the issue. Here is a hypothetical…
Bush signs the bill from congress containing a performance time table. He includes a signing statement stating that he has no intentions of compliance with any or all time tables as he has clearly done with other bills. Congress must still supply the war funding.
See the point now David?
http://thehill.com/ leading-the-news/ pelosi-threat-to-sue-bush-over-iraq-bill-2007-05-08.html
May 10th, 2007 at 12:58 pmCongress plans to “introduce a bill this morning that would increase by at least 20,000 the number of Iraqi refugees eligible for resettlement in the United States in 2007 and 2008. It would also admit 15,000 ‘special immigrant status‘ Iraqis and their families for each of the next four years.â€
“git thar firstust with the mostest” right?
its about time we started letting people in whos lives we’ve destroyed because of our presidents fascination with explosions
May 10th, 2007 at 1:03 pmSo a bunch of idiot Democrats decide to sit in New Orleans during a hurricane. Comment by m12 — May 10, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Mostly sick, elderly and people who feared to leave their property for safety reasons. Wow, what a hateful sick little b*st*rd you are.
An idiot Democratic mayor leaves hundreds of buses stranded rather than take people out. Comment by m12 — May 10, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Myth debunked ages ago – get a new line of hate and rhetoric.
An idiot Democratic governor cries on national TV. Comment by m12 — May 10, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
You mean George Bush? Oh, that’s right, the Supreme court appointed him president against the constitution.
I guess it’s Bush’s fault! Wait, I know it is, Cheney has his Hurricanator TX 1000 in the Gulf of Mexico and he generated Katrina with the touch of a button. Comment by m12 — May 10, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Neither the Hurricane, nor the people who stayed are his fault. His st*pidity and putting ShowHorse Brownie, and Dum Bass Chertoff in charge of Homeland Security – yep, Bush’s fault. See that’s what happens when you have incompetence from the top down in a disaster response situation.
Bush/Brown were both warned the levies could break, but they were unprepared to respond. And you know what dum bass – something as large as the event *requires* federal response you st*pid Jake*ss!
May 10th, 2007 at 1:04 pmThe Republicans Hate Government – and everyone wonders why the s*ck at running something they hate?
Well, maybe not… That sure explains why the Republican voters are bailing from their sinking ship!
May 10th, 2007 at 1:05 pmHmmm. Unprecedented restrictions.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pmNothing to hide? Nothing to fear.
They are obviously very afraid.
Of the truth getting out.
Bush and Brown should have never had to respond at all. They wouldn’t have needed to if Louisiana had a competent state government.
But distort, diverge, and change the subject. Blank-o isn’t running for re-election; nobody is buying your propaganda.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pmShouldn’t you Republicans defend Romney.
Comment by Shane — May 10, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
It is not an issue of “defending Romney” but rather condemning bad behavior, regardless of who committed it.
Don’t Democrats have enough work to do?
Comment by Shane — May 10, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
Like going after Limbaugh for a dumb song parody or going after Imus for his statemnets about Rutgers BBall players?
Why would we give a rat’s ass about Mitt?
Comment by Shane — May 10, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
Again, it is not about Mitt. It is about applying an equal standard accross the board. Hold Sharpton to the same standard as you do Imus, Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest.
He has a public forum. He’s already gotten his complaint out. Must you guys reduce everything to he did it too.
Comment by Shane — May 10, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
The Rutgers girls got their complaint out too, after they were told about it. They were given a public forum. I am just pointing out a case of the pot (Sharpton) calling the kettle black. (no pun intended)
I’ve never in my life listened to Al Sharpton unless he was on a news show and I was too lazy to change the channel.
Comment by Shane — May 10, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
And how often did you listen to Imus? But you were still “upset” over his statements. How often do you listen to O’reilly, but still get “upset” over his statements?
Do you stand for truth, or just your party?
May 10th, 2007 at 1:53 pmOuch!
Kansas Tornado Survivors Rip Sebelius for Politicizing Tragedy
Greensburg Victim Rips Kansas Gov. For Comments
Resident: Claim Of Slow Response An Absurd ‘Political Slam’
(CBS) GREENSBURG, Kan. While Democratic Gov. Kathleen Sebelius and the Bush administration jaw back-and-forth over the relief efforts for Greensburg, Kan., the town devastated by Friday night’s F-5 tornado, town residents have chimed in and say they couldn’t be any happier with the response from the government and other rescue units.
“The poor response thing is just political BS,” Greensburg resident Mike Swigart, 47, who lost his house and four vehicles from the storm, told wcbstv.com in an exclusive interview. “I saw her on television and I’m disappointed in that because she doesn’t know what she’s talking about.”
On Monday, Sebelius criticized the government’s response for relief …
Swigart said there was an almost immediate response from other towns, people who had lined up to try and provide rescue efforts. He said Sebelius’ comment about the lack of Humvees was unfounded.
“You may have seen her on television when she said that, and she talked about Hummers, that we needed Hummers. There were Hummers sitting in front of my house every day. The National Guard was there,” he said. “I saw people from all over who came right away to help and nobody sent them, they just came because they knew it was going to be big. The response was excellent, the rescue efforts were all night long, and I even made a comment to my wife later that night when we came back into our basement that I can’t imagine anyone saying we had a poor response to this tragedy, that it was so quick and it was amazing.”
Swigart says the general feeling around the town is that residents were overwhelmed by the immediate response, and that the governor’s fuss was for her own good. White House press secretary Tony Snow responded to Sebelius by saying that there was no request by Kansas officials for extra equipment, and that if there is anyone to blame, it’s her.
“I was told she wanted to run as vice president on the Democratic ticket, and honestly, I wouldn’t vote for her if they paid me because of that one thing she said on television right there. It was a political slam is all it was,” he said. “It was a political statement and as far as the military thing overseas, I support what they’re doing over there, and the military that came here is doing a great job too.”
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_129130446.html
May 10th, 2007 at 2:01 pmComment by Exley — May 10, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
say it ain’t so…
May 10th, 2007 at 2:35 pmSwigart said there was an almost immediate response from other towns, people who had lined up to try and provide rescue efforts. He said Sebelius’ comment about the lack of Humvees was unfounded. Comment by Exley — May 10, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
So one resident is suddenly on *all* of the news outlets? Geez, wonder what political party he’s the local representative of? Now who’s politicizing this again? You’re such a gullible piece of sh*t Exley, and such a little Nazi Brownshirt.
May 10th, 2007 at 2:52 pmRupert Murdoch announced that News Corp. will be carbon neutral by the end of the decade. “Climate change poses clear catastrophic threats,” he said. “We might not agree on extent but we certainly can’t afford the risk of inaction.”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200705/s1919001.htm
–Whether or not Murdoch’s new found environmentalism will be reflected in the rhetoric of Fox News is anybodies guess. Perhaps he’s just bracing for another Democratic victory in 2008.
May 10th, 2007 at 2:52 pmSo Exley, your little *friend* is just another far right religious wingnut republican.
“I really thought we were going to go,” he said. “I really did. We’ve always been a praying family, but we really prayed harder in those few minutes than we ever had before.” Greensburg resident Mike Swigart
He’s a small business owner, and right wingnut. Yeah, sure. He’s a *super* reliable resource Exley. You’re a fool.
May 10th, 2007 at 2:55 pmSwigart is one small business owner who just made the deal of his life.
May 10th, 2007 at 3:12 pmSo one resident is suddenly on *all* of the news outlets? Geez, wonder what political party he’s the local representative of? Now who’s politicizing this again? You’re such a gullible piece of sh*t Exley, and such a little Nazi Brownshirt.
Believe me, its not just one resident. Everyone knows Sebby is just a sham.
But I’m sure you know better about the response situation than he does. It’s not like he wasnt hit by the tornado or anything.
May 10th, 2007 at 3:20 pmHe’s a small business owner, and right wingnut. Yeah, sure. He’s a *super* reliable resource Exley. You’re a fool.
How the hell do you go from being religous to being a “right wingnut”?
May 10th, 2007 at 3:24 pmRupert Murdoch announced that News Corp. will be carbon neutral by the end of the decade. “Climate change poses clear catastrophic threats,†he said. “We might not agree on extent but we certainly can’t afford the risk of inaction.â€
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200705/s1919001.htm
The fact that Fox News is going carbon neutral is rather significant. If this move can be forced into the spotlight major conservative voices, including several on the Fox Network, would be forced to reconcile their contempt for global worming science and their love for the Republican propaganda machine.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:46 pmHow the hell do you go from being religous to being a “right wingnut� Comment by m12 — May 10, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
Kind of like how you go from abstinence to an increase in *n*l intercourse. It’s just the way the world works – Jake*ss.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:53 pmBelieve me, its not just one resident. Everyone knows Sebby is just a sham.
But I’m sure you know better about the response situation than he does. It’s not like he wasnt hit by the tornado or anything.
Comment by m12 — May 10, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
Ah, another EVERYONE quote from the wingnuts. No, child, everyone DOESN’T know that. What EVERYONE knows, is the incompetence of this administration, and the strain that Iraq puts on our National Guard. This poor wingnut is *lucky* the humvees are in his yard. You might want to ask who he knows (or knows him) in the Guard though…
May 10th, 2007 at 8:54 pmMust you guys reduce everything to he did it too.
Comment by Shane — May 10, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
Only until you guys decide that what is wrong for righties is wrong for lefties. You should have learned that by kindergarten, at least. Then no one would have to waste time here telling you.
May 11th, 2007 at 10:47 am“We might not agree on extent but we certainly can’t afford the risk of inaction.â€
http://www.abc.net.au/ news/ newsitems/ 200705/ s1919001.htm
If this move can be forced into the spotlight major conservative voices, including several on the Fox Network, would be forced to reconcile their contempt for global worming science and their love for the Republican propaganda machine.
Comment by Andrew M. — May 10, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
EXTENT would be the key word here. Very few people believe human activity has no effect on the planet and that we shouldn’t try to conserve or clean up our air or find better sources of power. The difference is whether we believe catastrophe is imminent.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:23 am