Judge approves Goodling immunity deal.
By on May 11th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Judge approves Goodling immunity deal.
“A federal judge approved an immunity deal Friday allowing former Justice Department aide Monica Goodling to testify before Congress about the firing of eight federal prosecutors. Goodling, who served as the department’s White House liaison, has refused to discuss the firings without a guarantee that she will not be prosecuted. Congress agreed to the deal, Justice Department investigators reluctantly agreed not to not oppose it and U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan gave it final approval Friday.”
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This was way too easy. Getting suspicious.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:18 pmOllie Ollie oxen free
May 11th, 2007 at 12:24 pmIt better be worth it. If Goodling’s testimony doesn’t result in the conviction of at least one other higher-up, the immunity should be rescinded.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:25 pmThis lock-stepper isn’t going to give up one iota of information. Expect to hear a lot of I don’t remembers or I hadn’t thought about it.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:27 pmI wanted her in jail.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:28 pmHow can someone refuse to testify and not be in contempt of Congress? If she wants to plead the 5th ammendment it would have to be to specific questions rather than being able to simply refuse to show up.
I don’t understand why they didn’t compel her to testify and then, based on what questions she “respectfully declined to answer,” decide if she should get immunity in order to catch the big fish.
I really don’t get this. Why would ANYONE ever testify if they can just refuse?
However, if the big fish turns out to be Karl Rove, it will all be worth it. I jusst doubt it. Bush will dig in his heels until he’s up to his nose, like a petulant child, with no sense of right or wrong.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:33 pmShane sez:
Presumably, she was granted immunity in exchange for testimony. If she fails to produce that testimony, there’s nothing to stop Congress from revoking that immunity.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:35 pmGuys, Congress ain’t stupid. There’s a ton of lawyers in Congress. I’d like to think they know what they’re doing….at least the Democratic ones.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:39 pmI’ve been waiting for this. I’m very interested in seeing what she’s done that would warrant her incriminating herself.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:44 pmLOL, more importantly why is a full-blown fundie evangelical Christian belonging to the party who proclaims itself to be the party of morality, accountability and blah, blah, blah finding it necessary to take the fifth at all.
Would it not be her moral duty to render unto Caesar and render honestly, letting the chips fall where they may. God’s will, and all that. I mean isn’t that what we call integrity.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:47 pmBeans, all over the floor please.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:48 pm#8 I am going to be cautiously optimistic that they struck a profitable deal with Goodling. But TMM is right, they better land a bigger fish. I don’t think a Sampson will be enough, though. They ought to at least get Gonzales, but Rove should be the real target.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:50 pmHeads will rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroll ;)
Seriously, you can’t get an immunity deal and then not testify. Only your testimony grants you your immunity. I hope the deal states that if she says “I dunno”, “I can’t rememmber”, “I cannot recall”, or any other such nonsense, they get to throw her in the slammer and throw away the key. SOMEONE has to start talking!!!
May 11th, 2007 at 1:03 pmWell, Punchy, you might be right that Congress is filled with lawyers, but look at the videos of the Gonzales hearings and you’ll see some of those lawyers looking perplexed about how to question the unquestionable Alberto G. They make relatively no progress, and they kept asking the same questions.
A good example is when Conyers says, “We are cooperating with you, why don’t you cooperate with us?”
The issue here is this. Why do Congress members assume good faith from a pathological liars? My opinion is that they do it because they are desensitized to the oratory shenanigans that are constant in their daily lives.
It’s painful for me to say, but I don’t think they will get anything from Goodling, for the same reasons they got nothing from Gonzales. We cooperate with you / you cooperate with us doesn’t work here.
I wonder how you would categorize people like Gonzales and Rove from a psychological perspective? I’d go with Psychopathic, but they seem to have good impulse control, in the form of manipulative forethought. Since the DSM-IV doesn’t do an accurate job of classifying people like this, it makes sense that we (me / you / Conyers / everyone) have trouble understanding why these people aren’t playing fair. But we continue to try.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:04 pmSing … little … birdie???
May 11th, 2007 at 1:05 pmI wish I had a get out of jail free card! Where are all of the apoligist who come on and excuse misconduct for Republicans? If this were a Democratic President, they’d be calling for his head. Since this is corrupt Republicans we are talking about, it’s a different story. These people make me sick with that kind of thinking. I said right from the start that Clinton was lying and I didn’t try to defend him at all for Monica Gate.
Ms Goodling shouldn’t have been given a get out of jail free card without first offering a taste of red meat. If she gets on the stand and lies now there’s nothing the stupid Democratic suckers can do. They are in such a hurry to find wrong doing, they are making dumb mistakes along the way. The simple solution would have been to call for a Special Counsel, maybe even have the guy who prosecuted Scooter do it. He would have made Goodling either tell the truth for go to jail. For the idiots who want to argue that nothing wrong happened consider the allegations carefully first.
If these prosecutros were fired for political reasons, then our justice system has become the same as a third world tin horn dictator’s system of justice. Think about it my conservative friends. Do you really want a Democratic adminstration prosecuting Republicans simply to win elections or for any reason other than if they really break the law? When we let the Justice Department become a part of any political party, our democracy has failed. As the statue on the Supreme Court of lady justice suggests, justice must be blind. If the lady is allowed to peek from behind her blindfold, we all lose. The sybolism of the blindfold represents fair justice system because it it being carried out without favor to rich, poor, black, white, brown, and without regard to power, party, or status.
My friend on the right like to talk about family, religion, country, conservatism, patriotism, etc. But none of those things matter without a fair justice system. The worst dictators in history all had a justice system that worked for them and their friends. But for most of those who suffered and died at their hands did not received fair justice. They lived under and system of Just Us.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:06 pmPrepare to watch Ms Goodling be a good soldier and take an Ollie. As in North. As it, I did it.
I’d have thought there was more than enough in the e-mails that were released and more importantly in the ones that weren’t released immediately to pin many people to the wall w/out worrying about an underling. After all, when Gonzales was told to study up, and he then contradicted the evidence in the e-mails, he’s clearly lying. The information is in front of him.
Accountability is dead.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:11 pmPresumably, she was granted immunity in exchange for testimony. If she fails to produce that testimony, there’s nothing to stop Congress from revoking that immunity.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — May 11, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
I hope you’re right, but after watching Gonzales testify it’s all like Bizarro World. Up is down, right is left. Who knows?
May 11th, 2007 at 1:24 pmthis could be interesting… underlings turning on the boss kind of thing… just look at Tenet… the bastid…
May 11th, 2007 at 1:27 pmFunny…she doesn’t know what habeas corpus means but she knows the definition of immunity.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:30 pmDo we have any idea when she will testify?
May 11th, 2007 at 1:43 pmI wonder how many hours a day that she is being coached by Rove and Gonzo about what to say….these people know no shame, and will stop at nothing to retain power.
We get a nice sampling of the morals and ethics of these types here daily from the resident troll scum, they don’t think that they are sick individuals, they believe that only support for their criminal party is the only thing that counts.
Just review some of the crap that scum like Patti 1″, Valiant Douche Bag, Exlax, and the like post. It is not about country or the constitution, they hate amercia, and want a police state, as long as it is their party incharge.
Hating the Repukian Mafia Scum daily
May 11th, 2007 at 1:48 pmThe judge said that she cannot be prosecuted for anything except perjury.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:50 pmi think she got only limited immunity, meaning, her testimony can’t be used against her. she can still be prosecuted, generally, for anything she doesn’t confess to. so it’s in her best interests now to come clean. it’s hard to see how she could do that and not implicate at least her boss.
May 11th, 2007 at 2:13 pmSchedule the hearing already…
May 11th, 2007 at 2:36 pmPopcorn! Getcher hot, fresh popcorn!
May 11th, 2007 at 4:48 pmthe
easy-view image file of the actual order(!),
and points and authorities of DC federal
district court judge thomas hogan, granting
ms. goodling’s immunity was signed this
afternoon. . . and i personally believe
she will not pull-an-ollie (north).
she’ll hang the rover out to dry– we do
now know for certain that chairman john
conyers has karl rove square in his sights,
after yesterday. conyers is holding test-
imony that directly asserts rove was behind
iglesias’-firing-for-failure-to speed-up-a-
bogus-democratic-corruption-case-in NM. . .
ms. goodling’s testimony will fill-in the
detail on all karl rove said, and did. . . imo.
whew.
that is all.
’tis good to see the public fascade of the
May 11th, 2007 at 5:43 pmhard-right-republicans crumbling day by day. . .
Matt – Check out Narcissistic Personality Disorder & Antisocial Personality Disorder. Both fit Rove like crazy. For Gonzo, look at Idiot, Rube, Pupper. He’s probably in there somewhere.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:54 pmPuppet, that is.
May 11th, 2007 at 6:03 pm>This lock-stepper isn’t going to give up one iota of information.
I’m not totally sure thats right. If she gives up no information, and a smoking gun is later found in a document, shes going down. But if she rats people out and tells congress about teh contents of those documents, she has immunity im guessing. So basically she has to take a gamble between ratting her bosses out now vs. keeping her mind “unremembered” and hoping to god no one rats and no subpeanas succeed later. Its definitely not a sure bet, but I’m inclined to think shes going to turn…
May 11th, 2007 at 7:57 pmThis bi*ch…
..better have some earth shattering…
…Gonzo-busting sh*t to tell…
…otherwise Dems…
…got some serious “splainin ‘t do”…
May 11th, 2007 at 8:28 pmlooks like I may be right that Goodling is going to spill the beans…
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/11/fired.prosecutors.ap/index.html
last line…
“Goodling’s lawyer has said that, with an immunity deal, she would cooperate and testify honestly. ”
trolls, are you looking forward to her testimony?
May 11th, 2007 at 9:34 pm