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CBS Has Allowed McCain Campaign Aide To Advocate For McCain On Air

nicolleCBS News has claimed that it fired Gen. John Batiste because he was engaging in “advocacy” that might hurt the credibility of his “analytical approach.” CBS has not expressed a similar level of concern with its other consultants, particularly former Bush aide Nicolle Wallace.

ThinkProgress has confirmed that Wallace serves as an informal advisor to the McCain campaign. As early as August 2006, the National Journal reported that Wallace was affiliated with the McCain campaign:

Nicolle Wallace, who oversaw communications for Bush in the campaign and at the White House, will help McCain.

The Washington Post’s Peter Baker also noted that she was aiding the McCain campaign.

CBS does not appear to have been concerned that Wallace’s advocacy for McCain would impact her on-air analysis. But on at least two occasions — after the media reported she was affiliated with the campaign — Wallace appeared on CBS programming to boost John McCain:

I think, one, there is John McCain and there is everybody else. Nobody else running for president or thinking about running for president is even in a category of suggesting or proposing policy that any commander in chief is considering adapting. And I think John McCain himself addressed the political perils this week when he came out in all his interviews and said, `You know, everyone knows I have presidential aspirations, but let’s put all that aside and do right by the men and women of our military.’ And I think that is the essence of who he his and what his campaign will be about. [CBS Saturday, 1/6/07]

I think one thing that has always dogged the White House when it comes to Iraq is, in addition to people feeling uncomfortable and weary of what is clearly a very difficult war, they have always been under the impression that there was no plan for Iraq. Now, I don’t think McCain will suffer from that label from the public. He obviously has a plan. I think people associate him with this strategy of having more troops, and we’re now going to see that. But I think McCain is doing exactly what his core supporters–and that’s a pretty large number of Americans–expect him to do, and that’s to put it all on the line, to say… “Let the chips fall where they may.” [CBS Saturday, 1/13/07]

CBS’s concerns over the “advocacy” of Gen. John Batiste is clearly hypocritical. The network will have to offer a better reason for why he was let go.

UPDATE: CBS VP Linda Mason amends her complaint against Batiste. “It isn’t just that he took an advocacy position,” she said. “General Batiste took part in a commercial that’s being shown on television to raise money for veterans against the war.” Actually, the VoteVets ad that Batiste appears is not a fundraising ad.




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71 Responses to “CBS Has Allowed McCain Campaign Aide To Advocate For McCain On Air”

  1. jeff Says:

    Batiste just needs to go on Letterman where they can both rip into Les Moonves's ass.


  2. Sue Says:

    Bwhahahahhahahaaa, I'm sure there are many more examples.


  3. Patrick1 Says:

    The McCain lady wants us to win, the old Clinton general wants us to lose. Easy decision about who should be on the air. We have more than enough defeatists around. We need a woman with courage. Keep her on!!


  4. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Hey trolls, are you gonna complain, because of this advocacy or are you gonna be your usual trolly hypocrites?


  5. KRank Says:

    IOKIYAR.


  6. Fed the Fcuk Up! Says:

    And the upcoming comments about how "hot" this kunt is will display how low that the level of American intelligence has sunk.

    Here they come...


  7. linda Says:

    so that's the chick. i've seen her perform before and she's a totally nasty piece of work -- just like perino.


  8. Spudge_Boy Says:

    The McCain lady wants us to win, the old Clinton general wants us to lose. Easy decision about who should be on the air. We have more than enough defeatists around. We need a woman with courage. Keep her on!!

    Comment by Patrick1 — May 11, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

    Hi, I am Patrick1. I am a complete blithering idiot. I am also a traitor to my country and should be put in front of a firing squad for trying to take down the great democracy known as the United States of America and I don't touch my dogs red rocket that often.


  9. Patrick1 Says:

    Is she identified on the air as working for McCain? If not, she should be. Same with the General. ID him as working for Al Qaeda and let him back on the air.


  10. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Is she identified on the air as working for McCain? If not, she should be. Same with the General. ID him as working for Al Qaeda and let him back on the air.

    Comment by Patrick1 — May 11, 2007 @ 4:19 pm

    Hi, I am Patrick1 and I am so stupid that I can't see that al Qaeda wants the Republican plan to continue. I am soooo dumb that when Ayman al Zawahiri says to keep out troops there so that al Qaeda can keep killing them that I think we should. Part of the reason is because I am a traitor to this country and should be hung.


  11. Mr. President Says:

    ...Keep her on!!

    Comment by Patrick1 — May 11, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

    but tell her to take her clothes off


  12. Mr. President Says:

    Hey choader_boy, Patrick1's comment about the al-kaida general is pure gold


  13. Fools on the Hill Says:

    It seems the vast majority of Americans are not Bushies (the 28 percenters) and are therefore traitors to mien Fuher GW.


  14. pity the fool Says:

    Why does CBS hate our veterans?


  15. Jake-o-bin Says:

    #9, LOL. quite amusing.

    anyways, it's actually quite nice at this point to see the trolls. they've got nothing left except to call Democrats Islamists and the like, and otherwise attempt sophist arguments. Bush is a failure, Iraq is a failure, the modern Republican movement is a failure, and every nonsensical talking point made by the GOP and its media allies has been proven wrong.

    Iraq is increasing terrorism, bin Laden is still alive, and 90% of the "terrorists" at Gitmo were freed on trumped up immigration charges, after folks like Patrick1 argued so vociferously that torture and denial of habeas were so necessary to protect us from a ticking time bomb scenario.

    They've got nothing left. Republican "intellectualism" is laughable at this point. Bush will go down in history as an evil fool whose incompetence allowed 9/11 to happen, and whose cravenness allowed him to abuse the memory of 9/11 for partisan gain. Folks like Patrick1 will go down in history as hysterical brownshirts.


  16. Spudge_Boy Says:

    UPDATE: CBS VP Linda Mason amends her complaint against Batiste. “It isn’t just that he took an advocacy position,” she said. “General Batiste took part in a commercial that’s being shown on television to raise money for veterans against the war.” Actually, the VoteVets ad that Batiste appears is not a fundraising ad.

    This is what we call struggling to find an excuse that doesn't make you look like a republican turd like Patrick1.


  17. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Hey choader_boy, Patrick1’s comment about the al-kaida general is pure gold

    Comment by Mr. President — May 11, 2007 @ 4:28 pm

    Any traitor would agree with the traitor Patrick1. Since you are going by Mr. President, it is 100% accurate for you to agree with his treasonous point of view, traitor.


  18. gr00vey Says:

    Nice work TP! Make the 4th estate start acting like the fourth estate again!


  19. valiant venus Says:

    Hmmmmm.........Did she appear in an anti-Clinton or Obama ad????? Did she appear in an ad which called Dems traitors and PIGS from Hell? Why doesn't TP handle it's own "non-profit" buysiness and allow other companies to manage their own. What would they do without YOU??? Young people have abandoned the MSM.....thanks for making a BIG deal of this.....


  20. Mr. President Says:

    Choad, I didn't say I agreed with him. I said he his one-liner was golden, and, by the way, so is your Patrick1 impression, heyooooooooo!


  21. John M Says:

    Hey trolls, are you gonna complain, because of this advocacy or are you gonna be your usual trolly hypocrites?

    Comment by Spudge_Boy

    Did she appear on a commercial to advocate for somebody? People on brought onto these shows to give their opinions. There is a distinct differnece between appearing on a network show and doing a commercial like Batiste did.


  22. katy Says:

    ... but she's so cute! and sexy(ish)! and blonde!...
    the perfect blend for teevee advocacy...
    just doin' her job...

    ...cbs has sunk to another new low...
    all that's left is 60 minutes... is that gone too?...
    ...


  23. valiant venus Says:

    Gasppppp....Have you been as offended by this woman as the on-screen presence of:
    Keith Olbermann,
    George Stepanopoulos,
    Tim Russert,
    James Carville,
    Paul Begala,
    Leslie Stahl,
    .....

    Laura Ingraham in her book "Shut UP And Sing" has a COMPLETE list of Dems and Progs currently employewd in the MSM. Waaaaagh!!!!!


  24. linda Says:

    and linda mason is a cbs vp and she can't even get that basic detail correct.


  25. George Says:

    Journalism has lost its way.

    No question.


  26. Patrick1 Says:

    If the Al Qaeda General ever gets back on the air perhaps he can comment on this..Task Force 145 captured 13 al Qaeda operatives during a series of raids in Baghdad, Karma, and Tal Afar on Monday and Tuesday. The Baghdad raid also resulted in finding 'several documents related to a chemical VBIED operation.' Fifteen al Qaeda operatives were captured during separate raids in Balad, Hillah, Fallujah, and near Taji. The raid west of Taji netted 'three individuals with suspected ties to al-Qaeda senior leadership during two separate raids.' Al Qaeda in Iraq's information minister and two other senior operatives were killed in this region last week."

    I won't hold my breath.


  27. pgw Says:

    "Gasppppp….Have you been as offended by this woman as the on-screen presence of:
    Tim Russert"

    yes.


  28. TavernWench Says:

    Laura Ingraham?????!!!!!

    That's rich. Thanks for the laugh, venus.

    As is often the case, folks like you don't get the gist... It's the hypocrisy, stupid.


  29. pgw Says:

    "I won’t hold my breath.
    Comment by Patrick1"

    you should change your screen name to
    "cut and paste, cut and paste, no attributions, no links1"


  30. Duck Type Says:

    CBS has a real problem here, but it's not so much that they parted ways with Batiste. They need to come right out now with what their policy is--in explicite terms.
    I have no idea how they introduced Nicolle Wallace, or what CBS's official role for her was on that show. If she was on as a pro-McCain voice, then the fact that she had a relationship with his campaign just doesn't seem like an issue. If, however, she appeared to express a supposedly objective perspective, then that's a serious problem. However, I don't consider the Wallace and Batiste situations to be analogous. I think the Wallace appearance certainly appears to be slimy, but again, I'd need all the details first. As for Batiste, if they want to break agreements with anybody who publicly appears on behalf of a PAC, that's their prerogative, but they better be damned sure they're holding ALL of their "consultants" to the same standard. And independent media now have a public responsibility to bring any and all potential conflicting relationships to light.

    Joe


  31. Zippy the Other Pinhead Says:

    If the Al Qaeda President Bush ever gets back on the air perhaps he can comment on this..Task Force 145 captured 13 Republican al Qaeda facilitators during a series of raids in Washington, New York and Chicago on Monday and Tuesday. The Washington raid also resulted in finding ’several documents related to a chemical VBIED operation.’ Fifteen Republican al Qaeda facilitators were captured during separate raids in Atlanta, New Orleans, San Francisco, and near Kansas City. The raid west of Kansas City netted ‘three individuals with suspected ties to al-Qaeda senior leadership, including Dick Cheney and Alberto Gonzales, during two separate raids.’ Al Qaeda in USA’s information minister Patrick1 and two other senior operatives were killed in this region last week.”

    See, moron? Anyone can do what you do...now STFU.

    I won’t hold my breath.


  32. Patrick1 Says:

    A handful of veterans (including three out of several thousand retired generals) oppose the war: News. Thousands of active duty personnel urge Congress to support the war effort: Not news. That pretty well sums up the journalistic standard that has been applied to the conflict in Iraq.


  33. nanlichi Says:

    Vapid Viper, you wrote “Nanlicki - Long time no see!! Still unoriginally crude as ever!”

    Sorry I missed your salutation Vile Venereal , here’s a 21 gun salute back in your direction.

    Crude? Yes, but I think some of my posts have been original and downright creative. Not to mention spot on.

    Like the one where I compare you Bush defenders to the wife of a child rapist who is raping their 12 year old daughter. She ignore the screams at night and the bloody sheets because “He’s a good man. He wouldn’t do that”.

    That analogy captures both the weakness and ignorance of the blind-faith Bushbots, and the black evil of your God, Bush.

    And it’s Panlicker to you Mini Aphid.


  34. OxyCon Says:

    Since CBS has now confirmed that they do not have a strict policy against employing and airing the views of partisan advocates, when will they be hiring some that aren't right wingers?


  35. Eric Jaffa Says:

    Apparently, no one can point to any CBS correspondents who appeared in ads and weren't fired.

    Until that happens, no double-standard has been proven.


  36. Zippy the Other Pinhead Says:

    A rabid dog bites Patrick1 in the buttocks: News. Patrick1 bites a rabid dog in the groin: Not news. That pretty well sums up the journalistic standard that has been applied to Patrick1's miserable life.


  37. pgw Says:

    "Comment by Patrick1 — May 11, 2007 @ 4:58 pm"

    cut and paste, cut and paste


  38. KRank Says:

    Hmmmmm………Did she appear in an anti-Clinton or Obama ad????? Did she appear in an ad which called Dems traitors and PIGS from Hell? Why doesn’t TP handle it’s own “non-profit” buysiness and allow other companies to manage their own. What would they do without YOU??? Young people have abandoned the MSM…..thanks for making a BIG deal of this…..

    Comment by valiant venus — May 11, 2007 @ 4:34 pm

    Wow. I'm accustomed to non-sensical blather from Valiant Anus, but this post shows some serious dissociative symptoms. Seek help, Anus.


  39. DallasNE Says:

    It is even worse than Think Progress says because the comparison is apples to oranges. The ad Gen. Batiste appears in is by a non-affiliated 527-group. Wallace promotes a specific candidate. What Wallace is doing is a far bigger problem than what Gen. Batiste did.


  40. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Hey trolls, are you gonna complain, because of this advocacy or are you gonna be your usual trolly hypocrites?

    Comment by Spudge_Boy

    Did she appear on a commercial to advocate for somebody? People on brought onto these shows to give their opinions. There is a distinct differnece between appearing on a network show and doing a commercial like Batiste did.

    Comment by John M — May 11, 2007 @ 4:36 pm

    John M,

    It appears you have embraced your inner troll. So, go back to being liberalism = mental disorder.


  41. valiant venus Says:

    #28 - TavernWitch - WE GET it....conservatives have watched for three decades as the MSM spun it's newscast to the LEFT. We listened while every institution we cherish was made fun of and castigated. We have listened and watched as the MSM varnished the backgrounds of sympathetic radicals who hate our country. We watched the NYT, CBS, NBC, ABC CNN depict arrested terror suspects spun as bumbling idiots - just so no one would take todays' terror threat tooo seriously. Why would the MSM do such a thing?? Because they are dyed in the wool Liberals and are heavily invested in Dem victories.

    And the funniest part, when we get a news channel which shows both sides of a debate more than the MSM EVER dreamed of, (in addition to conservative commentary) - ProgLibs have a fit. Here's a tip from a conservative - You don't like their policy, don't watch CBS. (I quit CBS over Dan Rather and haven't missed them a bit. But they must be missing consevatives if their trying to be more "fair and balanced".)

    Hypocrites.............................


  42. valiant venus Says:

    KRAnk - "Moral" liberals will tell every BUSINESS how to run their business....into the ground. You poor Libs....still heartbroken over the commercial belly flop of Air America. Maybe CBS wants to stem the bleeding....How many people watch the MSM news casts who are actually still alive and not in a coma???

    P.S. Thanks for the "personal" observation - this generally means you have nothing of value to add to the conversation.


  43. AlphaLiberal Says:

    CBS to American Liberals: "drop dead"


  44. Spudge_Boy Says:

    #28 - TavernWitch - WE GET it….conservatives have watched for three decades as the MSM spun it’s newscast to the LEFT. We listened while every institution we cherish was made fun of and castigated. We have listened and watched as the MSM varnished the backgrounds of sympathetic radicals who hate our country. We watched the NYT, CBS, NBC, ABC CNN depict arrested terror suspects spun as bumbling idiots - just so no one would take todays’ terror threat tooo seriously. Why would the MSM do such a thing?? Because they are dyed in the wool Liberals and are heavily invested in Dem victories.

    Crazy is as crazy does.


  45. Fed the Fcuk Up! Says:

    #39,
    Immoral "conservatives" have turned international murder and thievery into a thriving business. That "grandma" that you speak of that escaped from Austria, I wonder how she feels about you bringing Auschwitz to her. She must be so proud. Until she's gassed or starved to death that is.


  46. Fed the Fcuk Up! Says:

    #40,
    Real Americans to CBS: "fcuk you and goodbye".


  47. John M Says:

    John M,

    It appears you have embraced your inner troll. So, go back to being liberalism = mental disorder.

    Comment by Spudge_Boy

    If I am a troll if I point out inconsistencies in thinkprogress and your points then guilty as charged. The fact remains, that comparing Wallace and Batiste is like comparing apples to watermelons.


  48. annefrank Says:

    Hopefully - we're all expressing our rage - nicely, of course.

    evening@cbsnews.com


  49. Bob Loblaw Says:

    I saw a segment with her this morning. They kept changing her caption between "CBS News Consultant" and "Republican Strategist." I have to wonder whether there is a difference any more.


  50. John M Says:

    John M,

    It appears you have embraced your inner troll. So, go back to being liberalism = mental disorder.

    Comment by Spudge_Boy

    If pointing out the inconsistencies in thinkprogress and your posts is being a troll, then guilty as charged.


  51. Katie Says:

    If this post is trying to show that CBS are a bunch of hypocrites, it's really not necessary. CBS is owned by Westinghouse (many, many war contracts) and is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Bush Administration. The Bush Administration is totally hypocritical, so therefore CBS will also be hypocritical. The thing that is scary is that they probably can't see their hypocrisies.


  52. TavernWench Says:

    Venus, I'll give you this much... nobody's watching CBS News and their shitty evening broadcast, so at least that's taken care of.

    But if you're calling a retired Major General a sympathetic radical who hates his country... you're more than a little outside the realm of reality. Think about it.


  53. valiant venus Says:

    #42 - You were saying??? not much....didn't think so.


  54. valiant venus Says:

    Sponge Cake - Of course, I didn't expect you to come up with anything clever or insightful to counter my Liberal MSM argument. Oh yeah, calling people "crazy" always has a way of turning the tide in your favour......Like I suggested, instead of you and TP getting your briefs in a twist - change the channel. Watch PBS or the BBC.....you'll feel right at home...


  55. valiant venus Says:

    TAvernWITCH notes, "But if you’re calling a retired Major General a sympathetic radical who hates his country…"

    Does the name Smedley Butler ring a bell?? I doubt it......
    "After retiring from service, Butler became a popular speaker at meetings organized by veterans, communists, pacifists and church groups in the 1930s."


  56. Fed the Fcuk Up! Says:

    #49,
    Of course I didn't say much, it does not take much to dispel your brand of foolishness.

    So, go ahead, parade around your fake grandmother, or your bogus dead child, or wave around the farcical "law degree" that you got over the internet, but none of these things create a platform of morality that you can then use to preach your hate. If anything, it lowers your platform to the subterranean level.

    One day when you stop hating yourself, perhaps you will stop projecting your hate onto everyone and everything else. That day may be long in coming since, from what I can see, your self-loathing is justified.

    Bye.


  57. Shirley Says:

    Remarkable how many of the posters here, on the so-called Left and Right, are speaking in the context of the staged propaganda.
    The media masters ALL OF THEM are much more interested in keeping the ILLEGAL invasion going and furthering the amazing and incredible regressive domestic policies that are fattening the Dow Jones and impoverishing America's middle class.
    They are also 100 per cent behind matching Rotten Rudy Giuliani America's Mayor up against Barack Hussein Osama so we can have a Kerry Bush Redux for 08.
    ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, NPR and even the fringe media seem to be driven by Zionist-Capitalist clones who will change nothing until they've created a Wasteland and called it Peace. My apologies to Tacitus. While you all sit here accomplishing ZILCH an Arab people are being slaughtered, men women and children and most your standards of living is plummeting.
    NO ONE HATES AMERICA, BTW!! WE HATE WHAT THE NEO-FASCISTS ARE DOING TO IT!!
    Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the leaders when they deserve it. Apologies to Jefferson! Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels. Thank you Twain! NOTHING is going to change until more Patriots decide they have come to the point where their blood must be shed to feed the Tree of Liberty. And that blood doesn't need to be shed in the sands of a distant desert. Those Patriots, the so-called insurgents are already feeding their Tree...and Al-Qaeda has not got a G*d damned thing to do with their struggle!


  58. valiant venus Says:

    Dear Fed - Tooo bad you have no point to make. Your opinion of my family is of little or no interest.

    If you're going to pretend you know what you're talking about - at least repeat the story correctly. I was discussing my mother - not my grandmother(who also got out) or my great grand-mother - who was long dead. Are you a savant?


  59. faith Says:

    Go to the suggestion box for CBS news. It is easy to find on the internet. I urge each thinking person to inform CBS that they will lose another customer (you) until they reinstate General Baptiste, or explain very clearly why they chose to fire him in honest terms and fire all their right wing pundits.

    Many of us did this very same thing when the Los Angeles Times fired Robert Scheer (opinion columnist-scholar-professor) because of his anti Iraq war articles. The loss of many subscribers hit them where it hurts - in the pocket.
    Unless the "news media" start realizing that we, the people, cannot trust them because of their subtle or overt biases, let's make it clear by costing them money. The news media is systematically being bought out by ultra conservative businessmen who view it as creating a conglomerate and efficient, (It is efficient because if they control the media they control what America hears and deduces from the skewed information, this goes to marketing, product purchases, and politics.)so we are forced to take a stand.
    Consider also the change in Time magazine which has hired Willian Cristol, another ultra right conservative. Cancel your subscriptions folks. You are getting more honest news right here on Think Progress and Huffington Post, and Truthdig.


  60. Anacher Forester Says:

    There is a huge difference between Batiste and Fouad Ajami, Nicole Wallace, Michael O'Hanlon et al. Batiste did his "advocacy" on his own time and not on the CBS network whereas CBS freely gave Wallace, Ajami, O'Hanlon, etc., use of the CBS network as a platform for their "advocacy." In Ajami's case they even paid him for it.

    Merriam-Webster defines hypocrisy thusly:

    a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue.

    By dismissing General Batiste for their stated reasons, CBS easily meets the criteria for hypocrisy.

    AF

    That, in a nutshell, is the basis of CBS' Hypocrisy.


  61. Kilo Says:

    CBS Has Allowed McCain Campaign Aide To Advocate For McCain On Air

    That's irrelevant.
    It would be relevant if you said she was on to discuss a different topic but promoted McCain instead. But having a McCain aide on to talk about McCain is "advocacy" in the same way that having John McCain on to talk about his own policies is. Or anyone from the WH to talk about government policy is.

    Either you're calling for "Meet the Press" to be shut down or you're not. Figure it out.
    Or god forbid... provide some context for something you quote.


  62. Jeff Cronk Says:

    Smedley Butler...that does ring a bell. Wasn't he the general who foiled an attempt by traitorous business interests to topple FDR in a coup, and who finally figured out that "war is a racket", and henceforth spoke out against the corporate-driven (even then) war scam? Also brings to mind some prescient remarks by another former general named Eisenhower. The Bushies and their Republican acolytes have brought war as corporate enterprise to new and disturbing levels. I certainly hope the NRA is prepared to fight against Blackwater. The corporate nature of the media, of course, fits nicely with this - no need to postulate conspiracies, it's the nature of the system. Don't get me wrong - the present volume and dissonance of the right wing noise being marketed under the "conservative" brand name is staggering. Nonetheless, it seems to me that if one's main beef is that the MSN is or was at one time biased to the "left" or the "right", than one has missed the forest for the trees. The MSM remains first and foremost statist and corporate in bias.


  63. Brighid Says:

    WHY DOES CBS HATE IRAQ VETERANS?

    VoteVets is an organization of military veterans who have served. These are Iraq veterans. CBS is firing Gen. Batiste because he is a member/advocate of this group of military veterans who have served in Iraq. Whether or not they oppose the war, CBS has just issued a public statement that they HATE THE TROOPS:

    CBS VP Linda Mason amends her complaint against Batiste. “It isn’t just that he took an advocacy position,” she said. “General Batiste took part in a commercial that’s being shown on television to raise money for veterans against the war.”


  64. upside00 Says:

    Valiant, I assume you served your time on active duty and have earned the right to attack the integrity of a well respected and decorated military leader.

    if not, STFU!!!!


  65. Maeven Says:

    The McCain lady wants us to win, the old Clinton general wants us to lose. Easy decision about who should be on the air. We have more than enough defeatists around. We need a woman with courage. Keep her on!!
    Comment by Patrick1 — May 11, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

    This comment presumes that the Bush-Republican policies for protecting Americans (on any front, including but not limited to terrorism) have been successful. More successful, too, than the Clinton policies, which Patrick1 implies would be the policies of a Democratic president were one in office now or in the future.

    When you examine the record and not the rhetoric, Americans should only hope for a Democratic president with Clinton's policies if both preserving the Constitution while protecting your life is important to you.

    Nothing that Bush has done in the last seven years has improved Americans' safety or chances of not becoming victims of a terrorist attack. Ironically, everything that Bush has done has increased the likelihood of Americans losing their lives while also losing their Constitutional protections from an intrusive and abusive government.

    From the reorganization (of existing) and creation (of new) U.S. intelligence agencies, to failing to secure ports, borders, nuclear reactor sites, chemical manufacturing sites, dams, bridges, highways, railroads, etc., Bush has drained the U.S. Treasury (for generations) on an adventure to Baghdad on behalf of multinational oil companies that is guaranteed to move more people to commit acts of terror against Americans.

    And who the terrorists don't kill, deregulated and un(der)funded government will. The mind boggles to think that in the 21st century we would be returning to the time of Upton Sinclair in America.

    Eight years passed between the first WTC bombing and the second on 9/11/01. Bush hasn't beat that record. Had Bill Clinton still been in office on 9/11/01, with all of the warning signs and alarm bells that had U.S. guard dogs (like Richard Clarke, George Tenet, Cofer Black) alerting the chief executive to an imminent attack in the U.S. by Al Qaeda, in all likelihood those Towers would still be standing.


  66. Kilo Says:

    Eight years passed between the first WTC bombing and the second on 9/11/01. Bush hasn’t beat that record.

    That record included 4000 casualties in Africa while ignoring the guy who organised it established cells in the US along with contacts in US special forces, FBI and CIA.
    Not exactly an indication of how on-the-ball Clinton's administration was in regard to ldomestic al Qaeda cells.

    In any event, thanks for letting us know your support for the flypaper strategy. Dead Americans don't count as long as they're not stateside.

    Had Bill Clinton still been in office on 9/11/01, ... in all likelihood those Towers would still be standing.
    Comment by Maeven — May 12, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    Based on the track record of inaction against al Qaeda and disfunctional buerocracy that Clinton established during his own presidency. Right.

    You know CAP, the big brother of this site, put out a list of failures of the Bush administration in addressing the terrorist threat.

    In it they cited unmanned drones searching for bin Laden being withdrawn from service over the skies of Afghanistan after Bush took office and before 9/11.

    They failed to point out that under Clinton these drones had spotted bin Laden at least 3 times in 2000 and that they were taken out of service to be fitted with missiles in order to kill him instead of just continuing to look at him.


  67. Marshall Says:

    Although I oppose all of the Republican candidates, including McCain, the US war against Iraq, the Republican foreign and domestic policies, and am a strong free speach advocate, my take on Nicolle Wallace's comments is that they were very carefully worded to be commentary and analysis, not advocacy. If you re-read them, you will see that she does not advocate anything in those comments.

    Censoring Batiste or anyone else for advocacy, or even the claim of fundraising is another matter, but the example of Wallace as an advocate on air does not hold water.


  68. Youngharry Says:

    Valiant Venus is a paid propagandist for the Republican Party. As you think you know so much about history, Valiant, please tell me the difference between Japan's unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor in the 40s and Bush's unprovoked attack on Iraq?

    Answer: NONE, except,the Japanese Generals and diplomats that were repsonsible for attacking Pearl Harbor were tried, convicted and executed as war criminals. What should be done to Bush, Cheney, Rice, Powell, Rumsfeld, etc.?


  69. Vic Says:

    Is she identified on the air as working for McCain? If not, she should be. Same with the General. ID him as working for Al Qaeda and let him back on the air.

    Comment by Patrick1 — May 11, 2007 @ 4:19 pm

    Patrick1,

    I am wondering how your military record in defending this country stacks up against the military record of the general you call a traitor. But, I think I can guess.

    Ned


  70. dave from queens Says:

    Katie Couric engages in propagandistic "advocacy" on a nightly basis but she still has a job. Shame shame shame


  71. Wil Lofland Says:

    The law states equal time for all candidates!
    What is your plan CBS?
    I doubt highly you will follow the law as the White House dictates your coverage.
    So much for the law as Bush has clearly shown.
    Why don't you have a series on how domestic policy has been reped to fund this war?
    Wil Lofland



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