“We have had outpourings of new political speech
By on May 11th, 2007 at 11:16 am
“We have had outpourings of new political speech
[since 9/11] through new methods and means, for example, uh, people I wish never existed — bloggers.” — Former Bush Justice Department official John Yoo
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Hey John!
The feeling is mutual!
May 11th, 2007 at 11:19 amAnd I’m sure King George wished “Common Sense” was never published, either!
May 11th, 2007 at 11:20 amJohn Yoo’s impeccable understanding of the Constitution proves once again that there is no such thing as affirmative action for dumb conservatives.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:20 amJohn Yoo is bothered because bloggers are responsible in part for outing him as a Nazi. John Yoo is a disgusting, vile waste of human skin. Crawl back under your rock, John Yoo.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:20 amOf course John Yoo hates bloggers.
Yoo is one of the authors of the infamous memo that said torture was legal to do. Gonzo also wrote memos saying torture was okay.
John Yoo is a criminal and deserves to be in prison, not at Stanford.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:20 am…people I wish never existed — bloggers.
Maybe they should all be hauled off to secret sites in other countries and tortured to death. Is that what you had in mind, John?
May 11th, 2007 at 11:22 amApologies for the redundancy there. By “dumb conservatives” I merely meant “conservatives”.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:22 amSurprisingly, someone else needs to feel the sting of bloggers as quickly as possible.
David Sirota was up until 3:00 a.m. trying to get the word out regarding a major story of betrayal and sell out of the middle class generated by purportedly progressive members of congress that tends to get buried under all the Iraq news.
See http://www.workingassetsblog.com/2007/05/timeline_the_secret_bushdemocr_1.html
May 11th, 2007 at 11:25 amand please help him get the word out.
“We have had outpourings of new free speech [since 9/11] through new methods and means, for example, uh, people I wish never existed — bloggers.â€
I fixed it for you……er, Yoo.
Slimebag.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:26 amWow, I was thinking the same about this administration.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:28 amYeah, those pesky bloggers that live down deep in the tubes of the internets. They’re the reason our policies don’t work.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:29 amBoo Hoo to You Too Hoo!
May 11th, 2007 at 11:30 amPesky bloggers- making it had for Administration trolls and neoCON SCUM to exist in the shadows.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:33 amF*CK YOO!
May 11th, 2007 at 11:35 amoh yooooo think!?
May 11th, 2007 at 11:37 am“The people don’t deserve to have a voice that can be published worldwide in seconds. How else will we control the dissemination of information?”
May 11th, 2007 at 11:42 amA free press is always a problem for dictatorships. Must be kind of frustrating, though. They spent the 90’s changing laws that allowed consolidation and killing the Fairness Doctrine, so as to accommodate the Republican Syndicate. But then Al Gore invented the internets and now free speech is rearing its ugly head again.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:43 amBloggers can also do this:
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Comment by Shane
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I love it!!!
May 11th, 2007 at 11:46 amI’m still confused on the condoms that torture thread… buhahahaha
May 11th, 2007 at 11:46 amThis is what it’s coming to. Bush wants to appoint judges on every level, including the Supreme Court, who pretend that don’t know what the First Amendment means.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:49 amDamned citizens spouting off their political beliefs! So incovenient to controlling the media.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:49 amI have to admit, I don’t like this guy.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:49 amTo damn bad, the flood gates have been opened. We’re not going anywhere.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:52 amI have to admit, I don’t like this guy.
Comment by Joe — May 11, 2007 @ 11:49 am
Joe, why are you here? In the previous thread, you identified this as another non-story.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:02 pmSo you idiots wouldn’t torture a thug terrorist to save a million American lives if he knew about a suitcase nuke plot? Of course you wouldn’t, you would want the terrorist attack so the Administration would look bad. Plus, you all hate Americans and love the terrorists.
Sickos. Go to Cuba with Mike Moore you traitors.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:03 pmI would like to draw attention to a connection between this thread and the previous one (in which a whining runt named McHenry has mistaken himself for a man): Yoo and McHenry are typical Republican crybabies.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:04 pmBy the way, Yoo is at Berkeley, not Stanford.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:05 pmComment by firehead — May 11, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
The scenario your portray is so unrealistic that it does not bear consideration.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:06 pmA: “You Yoo.”
B: “who you callin’ a “You Yoo?”"
C: “You, you “You yoo.”
May 11th, 2007 at 12:06 pmI would like to draw attention to a connection between this thread and the previous one (in which a whining runt named McHenry has mistaken himself for a man): Yoo and McHenry are typical Republican crybabies.
Comment by VerbalKint
Nice sexist post.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:07 pmNice sexist post.
Comment by John M — May 11, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
How so?
May 11th, 2007 at 12:10 pmJohn Yoo hates bloggers – hmmmm…I wonder why???? Could it be that the bloggers have outed him as a neo-nazi?? Very likely reason. The fact is that the liars, crooks, and spinmeisters can’t “spin” the truth as easily these days because intelligent people go to the internet blogs to find the truth. Truth is definitely NOT found on the mainstream media, that’s for sure.
Case in point: On Monday, the Iraqi parliament voted to give US benchmarks to get the hell out of their country….while Congress is wrangling with them at the very same time….Bush initially saying “no way, Jose” to benchmarks and then, mysteriously, recanting and now considering “benchmarks”. Could it be that the Iraqis trumped even Congress on this one and let the cat out of the bag precisely at the point where intelligent debate would definitely be swayed by the wishes of the people whom we purport to care about there?
Yet, it was not until today, some 4 days later, that I find a small article on the back page of my local paper revealing what we’ve known on the blogs all week! It just confirms that the MSM is nothing more than paid whores of the GOP – just like all of the cronies and paid whores Bush has in all of the departmental positions. They’re running off the stinking, stinking USS Bush right now though….they see the handwriting on the wall. This scandal-ridden period in american history is far from over.
Sure, gonzo would LOVE for congress to “move on” and leave him alone; the fact is that he, Rove, Cheney & Bush have their fingerprints all over everything that’s criminally wrong in this country. I’ve yet to find something they’ve done right and can be proud of.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:11 pmJohn M, I have some bad news for you: your side is losing. Don’t you think you should be attending to the problem instead of wasting your time here where you have zero chance of swaying any opinions?
May 11th, 2007 at 12:12 pmI love it. Since ‘blogs’ like TP & Huffington have become so popular, there’s no where that these evildoers can hide. Is it any wonder that they hate blogs?
May 11th, 2007 at 12:12 pmI see we’ve got our psychologically impaired idiot troll on board today – lucky us, eh? Just ignore posts from Firehead, Jake(off), Michael1, and a litany of others. His psychiatric pathology is so profound that he finds it necessary to change identities several times a day….hahahaha!
May 11th, 2007 at 12:12 pmHow so?
Comment by VerbalKint
“(in which a whining runt named McHenry has mistaken himself for a man)”
Obviously he is a man, so you are saying that men should act a certain way, if they don’t then they are not man. Purely sexist.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:14 pmSo “crybaby” is now a gender?
Learn something new every day.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:16 pmJohn M, I have some bad news for you: your side is losing. Don’t you think you should be attending to the problem instead of wasting your time here where you have zero chance of swaying any opinions?
Comment by VerbalKint
What do you mean by my side?
May 11th, 2007 at 12:17 pmVerbalKint,
Get lost. Everyone has had enough of your free-speech supression. Don’t advise me what to comment on.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:20 pmWhat do you mean by my side?
Comment by John M — May 11, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
You know exactly what I mean, troll.
Anyone notice how much John M’s style of asking questions resembles Patrick1?
May 11th, 2007 at 12:22 pmJudging from Yoo’s writings, he’d like to do away with bloggers and bloggers’ writings retroactively, kinda like what Winston Smith did back in the day. “People I wish never existed” – ??? A lovely eliminationist sentiment if there ever was one.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:22 pmThere’s a radio show on WBAI in New York called ‘Talk Back.’ The host always ends the show with “See you tomorrow; the good lord willin’ and the crik don’t rise.”
A couple of days ago a guy called in saying that Hugh should change his ending because the crik might be referring to Creek Indians. The caller had an explanation for why this was so. Needless to say it was the same kind of bizzaro world “logic” that can equate calling someone a crybaby with sexism.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:23 pmWow, firehead got out of its coffin…
May 11th, 2007 at 12:24 pmGet lost. Everyone has had enough of your free-speech supression. Don’t advise me what to comment on.
Comment by Joe — May 11, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
I’m not doing anything to suppress free speech. How could I? I am just posting comments here and you are posting comments here. Your real problem is that I am pointing out how your comments are not consistent with your behavior, which I regard to be intellectually dishonest.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:25 pmYou know exactly what I mean, troll.
Anyone notice how much John M’s style of asking questions resembles Patrick1?
Comment by VerbalKint
Sorry, don’t know what you mean. You say my side as if there is a clear line, where there can only be winners and losers, like managing a country is a game.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:25 pmYep, John M, you really are clueless. I don’t think Verbalkint has been unclear enough (if at all).
May 11th, 2007 at 12:27 pmYou say my side as if there is a clear line, where there can only be winners and losers, like managing a country is a game.
Comment by John M — May 11, 2007 @ 12:25 pm
THANK YOU, JOHN M! This is exactly how Republicans treat government, which is why so many of them have put party ahead of country and have abandoned the rule of law. It is a winner-take-all game with Rove’s crew. But I think they are just starting to realize that the GOP is emerging as the big loser.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:29 pmJohn M, Joe, et al: I have to get something done now, so I am turning you over to the other truth police here.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:31 pm#37
And Bush, Cheney, Yoo are TRAITORS to the USA who will BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY for their WAR CRIMES.
As for Patrick McHenry, forget “give him LIBERTY”.
Give the coxucker DEATH for his part in these WAR CRIMES.
Nothing sexist. Just TRUTH.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:32 pmTHANK YOU, JOHN M! This is exactly how Republicans treat government, which is why so many of them have put party ahead of country and have abandoned the rule of law. It is a winner-take-all game with Rove’s crew. But I think they are just starting to realize that the GOP is emerging as the big loser.
Comment by VerbalKint
But that is how you see it? How are you any different than the people you are calling out?
May 11th, 2007 at 12:34 pmObviously he is a man, so you are saying that men should act a certain way, if they don’t then they are not man. Purely sexist.
Comment by John M — May 11, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Uh John, I think VK was implying that he was acting like a little boy instead of an adult. Wouldn’t that be ageist? IF it was anything!
May 11th, 2007 at 12:42 pmThis did not exist before 9/11. Are we really in such a civil liberties crisis if bloggers are able to use this new media to say I think quite incredible things? -yoo
can you see it? … can you sense it? …
keep your attention on NET NEUTRALITY, folks…
May 11th, 2007 at 12:45 pmthey still want to take that away also…
Get lost. Everyone has had enough of your free-speech supression. Don’t advise me what to comment on.
Comment by Joe — May 11, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
katy, Make a better argument. Cite some sources. Mindless rambling and name-calling isn’t a rebuttal. My intentions are good and I stand by most of my posts. Cite the posts of dispute, etc., or exit the commentary section.
Comment by Joe — May 8, 2007 @ 11:06 am
i take it back… you ARE a TROOLL.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:52 pm…
btw: Al Gore never said he invented the internet.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:53 pmAnd the basis for that answer is a burgeoning academic literature, written mainly by political scientists, that finds that the more free-market countries become, the more peaceable they become.
Liberalism is a problem of Capitalism Patrick1. People in societies like ours become more peaceful. It’s what comes from sitting in front of a TV, a video game, a Mcdonalds, Pizza, movies, computers, and all this other stuff we gather together, sofas for our potato roots, cars for fun and work, burning oil, sitting in the AC.
You are liberal Patrick1. You won’t go join the services, but you will opine about things you fail to consider, such as above, and thats how we become hypocrites.
As far as Yoo goes, he’s just another authoritarian type Lawyer (ughhh) who also fails to see that Capitalism is also what makes us/him Liberal.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:55 pmBut that is how you see it? How are you any different than the people you are calling out?
Comment by John M — May 11, 2007 @ 12:34 pm
We’re all playing by you’re rules now. We tried being nice, we tried playing fair. We got f*cked. Bush’s handlers stole two elections and was allowed to get away with it. We were told it was for the good of the country.
Now our country’s reputation is trashed globally. Our homeland security, according to Cheney etal. is endangered by a probable dirty bomb. Well, I could go on all day, if I wanted too.
If you are here to change opinions you are pissing up a rope. You would be wise to work on your own party that needs to be more moderate than coming here and proving what idiots you all are.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:56 pm29, he’s been watching way too much “24″…
May 11th, 2007 at 1:00 pmSince he’s taking such a beating in the game of the written word, it’s only natural that Yoo would seek to shift the conflict to another playing field. Perhaps Johnny Boy would prefer that we exercise our free speech rights like the anti-abortion protesters do. How about this, John: bloggers could all step away from our keyboards, find the nearest ivory tower of academia, and shoot all the law professors who express ideas that we disagree with. Bonus: first AND the second amendment, all wrapped up in one!
Yeah, I didn’t think so. Take your medicine like a good little boy.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:12 pmyeah, nothing like grass roots freedom of speech to get under your skin when you’re trying to usurp power…
May 11th, 2007 at 1:28 pmUh John, I think VK was implying that he was acting like a little boy instead of an adult. Wouldn’t that be ageist? IF it was anything!
Comment by Shane
I don’t see it as implying he is acting like a little boy. Of course, she will probably jump on that excuse, even so it is still sexism, to say that men should act a certain way and if they don’t they are not men.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:44 pmfirehead, once again you’ve proven Republicans are idiots. There are already in fact mechanisms in place that would allow torture in the extremely unlikely scenario you cite (a terrorist, where torture would prevent a ticking bomb from going off).
What Yoo has suggested is torture in other, non-urgent contexts, without any due process. His “reading” of the Constitution allows the CinC to torture anyone he likes, in the face of legislative and judicial disapproval, if he even *suspects* that so doing would be in the interests of national security,
In short, he is, like you, a blithering idiot, and proof positive that stacking academia and the judiciary with “conservative intellectuals” is essentially affirmative action for the criminally stupid.
Take that and shove it up your politically correct arsehole, mate.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:46 pmthe Yoo and I are even – i never wanted him to exist, either
May 11th, 2007 at 1:54 pmKaty, I’ve already apologized to you. I’ve made no statenent to you since.. There’s a very specific definition of a troll/tool and I think you should look up that up. Dissent is not “trooling.” You just made an inflammatory statement to get my attention, so that’s would be the definition “trolling.”
I believe ‘Verbal Kint’ was attempting to silence me. Please read the preceding posts before you attack me.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:57 pm#
btw: Al Gore never said he invented the internet.
Comment by Lily — May 11, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
Well that hasn’t stopped the RW noise machine from using that distortion as a club against Al. I know that he didn’t “invent” the internets, he just understood the transforming technology it represented and helped to clear the legal roadblocks in Congress to make it a reality. I just like to credit Al for inventing the tubes…just to piss the Republicans off.
May 11th, 2007 at 2:07 pmI like how all these blog critics act like without the advent of blogging, those involved that are creating such a hard time for them (rightfully so) would simply not exist. Although blogging certainly helps facilitate faster political action through immediate updates and discussions over vast distances, it’s not like there wouldn’t be any decent without blogging. What happens in blogs is nothing new. It’s just the modern form of the small politically slanted newspaper, flyers, and meet-ups of yesteryear (except on steroids and working at lightspeed)! :-)
Those that hate the concept of blogging tend to have skeletons they don’t want let out of the closet or are reporters whose viewer/readerships have dropped off because they, well, are more concerned about their hair than investigating the story.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:05 pmLet’s not forget this gem from John Yoo:
“John Yoo publicly argued there is no law that could prevent the President from ordering the torture of a child of a suspect in custody – including by crushing that child’s testicles.â€
My fantasy for some time has been to send Mr. Yoo a can of crushed nuts. However the subtlety of this gesture may be lost on a man of Yoo’s sensibilities. I have no need to subject Mr. Yoo to any of the methods he describes for others. I think merely being John Yoo is punishment enough.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pmTV has lost 2.5 million viewers. I wonder why?
May 11th, 2007 at 10:23 pmWe have blogs that dispute and discredit the mass manipulation, distortions and lies that emanate daily from the corporate tube. Think Progress is one and I’m glad it reveals the slime beneath the suits and shiny exteriors of these phony corporate talking heads.
Hey, Woo, I’d tell you what to do, but I’m sure you’ve been told so many times by now, you KNOW the drill by heart.
“Bend over, part cheeks, insert…”
May 11th, 2007 at 10:34 pmProblem is Mr. Yoo probably has a plan up his sleeve which the Bush Admin. would probably just love to implement (if they haven’t already) to make bloggers go away, whether as a presence on the internet of just individually as people.
May 12th, 2007 at 12:42 am