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Lindsey Graham: Escalation Critics Are Calling The Troops ‘Losers’

Today on CNN, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said Bush’s Iraq critics are calling the troops losers. “Let’s don’t undercut [Bush's escalation plan],” he said. “Let’s don’t declare this war lost because you’re telling all these soldiers and Petraeus that they’re losers.”

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) immediately ripped into Graham’s characterization, stating, “I don’t know anyone who opposes this war that ever said our troops are losers. Our troops are winners.”

Boxer continued, “Lindsey, just be careful what you say. The bottom line here is that the losers are the ones who have engineered this war, made a huge mistake — Dick Cheney we’re in the last throes, the war will last six months — and all of you who have supported this escalation and have turned us away from fighting al Qaeda into putting us in the middle of a civil war.” Watch it:

[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/05/grahamlosers.320.240.flv]

Boxer concluded, “The loser is the Commander-in-Chief who has not led our country well.”

Transcript:

GRAHAM: And the surge is in its infant stages. Everyone’s not on the ground yet. It’s our last best chance. Let’s don’t undercut it. Let’s don’t declare this war lost, because you’re telling Petraeus and all these soldiers that Barbara just talked about they’re losers. They have not had the opportunity…

BOXER: Oh, I’ve just got to straighten out the record on this.

GRAHAM: … to implement this strategy.

BLITZER: All right.

GRAHAM: And if I may finish my thought, if I may finish my thought, those who, no matter how well-intentioned, are calling for our withdrawal, deadlines and timelines that inform the enemy about how to beat us, are in fact the authors of a greater war. The Bush administration screwed this up early on by not having enough troops.

I support the surge. I’ll take the consequences of its failure. Give it a chance. But if it all fails we’re going to have a bigger war.

BLITZER: Let me let Senator Boxer respond.

BOXER: I don’t know anyone who opposes this war that ever said our troops are losers. Our troopers are winners.

GRAHAM: Harry Reid did.

BOXER: Excuse me. He never said our troops are losers. Now, Lindsey, just be careful what you say. The bottom line here is, the losers are the ones who have, you know, engineered this war, made a huge mistake, Dick Cheney, we’re in the last throes, the war will last six months, and all of you who have supported this escalation and have turned us away from fighting al Qaida into putting us in the middle of a civil war.

Now, the fact is I want to be very clear on this, Wolf. I’ve lost in California 21 percent of the dead troops. You understand that? Twenty-one percent either were born in California or were stationed in California.

I have their names listed in the front of my office. If you come and see my office, they are all on these charts. And you know what, Lindsey? I have to keep making the print on the charts smaller and smaller to fit all the names on four full charts.

BLITZER: Senator?

BOXER: So don’t say anyone calls them losers. They’re winners. The loser is the commander in chief who has not led our country well.



198 Responses to “Lindsey Graham: Escalation Critics Are Calling The Troops ‘Losers’”

  1. Jason Baddo says:

    It is just tragic that our soldiers are used as pawns in this disgusting political exchange. Why in the world would anyone want to join the armed forces and be suject to this manipulation.


  2. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    I’m calling the Republicans losers. In fact, November 2006 proves me right.


  3. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Boxer – “The lose is the Commander in Chief who has not led the country well.”

    Well said, Senator.


  4. whiteyfresh says:

    can you say boo-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!


  5. trueblue says:

    Perhaps Lindsey Graham is being taken out of context?

    Maybe he meant to say that the troops are losing:

    Their arms.
    Their legs.
    Their sanity in some cases.

    Their lives.


  6. whiteyfresh says:

    awesome….

    simply awesome…

    kick him in the nads, Barbara!!


  7. jeff says:

    Graham hiding behind “Support the Troops”. What a loser.

    He’ll be just one of the many victims when the Republican machine shatters on impact.


  8. have skunk says:

    Yes, Senator Huckleberry, November 2006 was an ass whuppin’, just like the ones those young boys in the Alexandria boy-man-love clubs give you on the weekends.


  9. pbg says:

    Calling the troops losers!
    I can see it now: Rambo XIV, starring Sylvester Stallone Jr.
    “And when I got off the plane from Iraq, there was this crowd of hippies and bloggers, and they…made the ‘L’ sign on their foreheads….”

    What kind of playground argument is that?


  10. Mistress Z says:

    BOXER: “I don’t know anyone who opposes this war that ever said our troops are losers. Our troops are winners.”

    You tell him, Barbara! Why aren’t YOU running for President!?

    Lindsey — go cut me a switch…


  11. Jim Source says:

    The administration that gave us Walter Reed isn’t exactly in a position to talk about supporting the troops.


  12. jeff says:

    Graham has been one of those to complain about troop strength. Seems to me his time on CNN would have been better spent lobbying viewers to enlist and support increases to ease the burden on the current troops.
    But I didn’t watch it. Did he mention troop levels? Or did he just cry “I support the troops!”


  13. Erroll says:

    What Graham said could have been taken verbatim from what those in the government, such as McGeorge Bundy, Walt Rostow, Robert McNamara, et al [the alleged Best and the Brightest] said over forty years ago. The U.S. cannot abandon the troops, we must stay until the job is done, etc. The biggest hope that I and others in the military who were in Vietnam had was that those in government would get us out of that quagmire as rapidly and as quickly as possible. In all likelihood, many if not most in the military who are in Iraq undoubtedly feel the same way. Feelings of superpatriotism melt away fast when one realizes that one is not fighting for ones’s country; instead, one is fighting for the lies that are generated by our government.


  14. VerbalKint says:

    I’m calling you a loser, Lindsey Graham.


  15. Jason says:

    Typical Repub talking points repeated over and over as if you continue to lie about something long enough it automatically becomes the truth. Grahm and the rest of the GOP 28 are walking talking robots. The definition of loser is someone who continues to bang their head against a wall until they lose consiousness. Sen. Grahm said today is job in 08′ is on the line and if the voters that put him in office to use his best judgement do not agree he is, he will lose his job. Let’s all join in helping to do anything we can to help support the senators election opponent. I’ll be donating money to that campaign at the very least. Let’s show sen. Grahm that his decisions no longer will go without consequence..


  16. Jo-Ann says:

    Lindsat Graham should be ashamed. The big guy used troops to shield himself and McCain on a rug- buying market spree in Bagdad. The troops think he’s the loser. Lower than low.


  17. LeftWind says:

    #5 trueblue – you can also add “their families” to the ever-growing list of what these war weary soldiers are losing. The divorce rates are skyrocketing.


  18. SKdeA says:

    LOVE that Barbara Boxer! No wonder I always voted for her while living in SF…


  19. decider liar says:

    Right on Rep. Boxer. The idiots responsible for this f%&* mess have run out of body bags, time, money, and credibility beyond comprehension.

    It’s time to force rehab on Grahm along with his entire party…some nasty hangover that’s gonna be.

    Bring our troops home now!!!


  20. tryggth says:

    Only just found this today, but this link seems to do a very comprehensive job of rounding up the Iraq news from around the web. Its in my bookmarks now.


  21. pigboy says:

    Sen. Graham, “I support the surge and I’ll take the consequences of its failure”.

    No Senator Graham you will not ‘take the consequences of its failures”.

    The troops and civilians dying, losing limbs, being traumatized, will ‘take the consequences’. Not you.

    What you will do, is go on to support shrubs next foolish policy which amounts to renaming the old failed policy and continue exacerbating the US created Iraqi civil war.

    This must end and you Senator need to stop playing politics with peoples lives.


  22. rfinca says:

    “Lindsey, just be careful what you say. The bottom line here is that the losers are the ones who have engineered this war”

    Which would include you Graham (R-SC) for giving this loser of a president a blank check to run amok!

    ~Hating republicans a little more each day~


  23. Fools on the Hill says:

    Bush and his Republican Rubber Stampers, one of whom is Lindsey Graham, are the LOSERS!


  24. kasinca says:

    God Bless you, Barbara. Lindsey, you should be ashamed of your ignorant charactarization. Nobody has called the troops losers, they follow the orders of the drunken AWOL coward, the five deferment coward, and you bootlicking assholes in the Republican Party. Go play with yourself, moron.


  25. RUCerious says:

    Bush is the Loser-in Chief, and Cheney is the, well if I said it, someone would probably have to kill me.


  26. Mr. President says:

    If the Dems think the war has been lost, ipso facto, they think the troops are losers. open your cot damn eyes Dems


  27. AboveTheClouds says:

    No number of Lindsey Grahams, Sean Hannitys, or neocon George Bush’s can convince America to give a shit about Iraq. Graham, in his frustration and lack of principles, results to name calling. More proof that the GOP have nothing for America but war, death, debt, and name calling.


  28. DutchHenry says:

    Name calling is what the Repukes do best.Look for them to even get nastier folks as support for the thief of Iraq’s oil become less of acertainty.


  29. Zenlitened says:

    My respect for Sen. Boxer grows greater by the day. She knows that the filthy lies that Republicans spout so casually must be shot down on the spot.

    Men like Graham lack even the barest shred of character, which is why the Republican Party is such a horrifying thing to behold these days. It is filled to bursting with people who twist words, torture logic and spread slander with the effect — and seemingly the intent — of dragging our nation down to destruction.

    They are systematically dismantling everything — every ideal, every institution — that once propelled our nation toward greatness. And they must be confronted, contradicted and exposed for their treachery at every turn. Hats off to Sen. Boxer for expressing the outrage that is entirely justified, and widely shared.

    “Angry liberals”? No… outraged Americans, of every political inclination, angry at being betrayed.


  30. ScrewBush says:

    Golly Gopers, does watching Mr. Graham puke out lies like that make you fell proud? If you disagree with the Decider that means… (insert lie from Rove here)

    1. You love our enemies
    2. You want America bombed by terrorists
    3. You think our troops are losers
    4. You’re probably Gay
    5. You’re definitely a child molester, and also probably Gay.
    6. Make up another one…

    Whether at war or not at war, it’s an American right to be able to disagree with our President. And in this case, the President is an infantile moron who should be impeached for wasting the lives of our citizens for no good reason.

    Mr. Graham should be absolutely ashamed of himself for fouling our political discourse with such lies given his position, just shameful.


  31. Mr. President says:

    Judging by her looks, her last name should be Punchingbag


  32. impeachcheneythenbush says:

    I support the surge. I’ll take the consequences of its failure. Give it a chance. But if it all fails we’re going to have a bigger war.

    No, Lindsey. You won’t “take the consequences” of its failure.” Our troops will, both the injured and the dead. I heard this exact kind of rhetoric during the Vietnam War. It was bullsh*t then, and it still is!!


  33. Uncle Ho says:

    During the Vietnam war, at my local American Legion, some older WWII vets called me a ‘candy-ass loser” and said “we won our war”. I pointed out that it was THEIR generation who put us INTO Vietnam in the first place AND dictated the strategy.


  34. valiant venus says:

    “BOXER: I don’t know anyone who opposes this war that ever said our troops are losers. Our troopers are winners.”

    Let me translate for those of you not fortunate enough to live here in California. When Senator Boxer says “UP!” she means “down!”. When she says “winners” she means “losers”. When Harry “Toyko” Reid sought to advance his side politically by declaring the war “lost”, he did NOTHING for the morale of our troops. He may have been talking about the “plan” and the “planners”, but the military who execute those plans generally disagree with Tokyo. God bless America… and protect us from all enemies, FOREIGN and DOMESTIC……

    Toodles……Happy Mother’s Day to those of you so blessed.


  35. Uncle Ho says:

    BTW, that, along with the hawkish views of the Legion & VFW are why I never joined those outfits. Joined Vietnam Veterans Against the War instead.


  36. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Right On Sen. Boxer!! She is not afraid to call Bull Shit when she sees it. Her smackdown of Sen. Inhofe is a great example of that too. You see Repugs you can support the Troops and be opposed to this Crimminal War at the same time. Ms. Boxer just showed you how to do it.


  37. Mr. President says:

    VV, that may be so, but in this case they really did call the troops losers.

    I repeat: If you say “this war is lost” that means, ipso facto, somebody lost the war. If you think that we lost, ipso facto, you think the US troops are losers.


  38. Uncle Ho says:

    valiant moron; when you say domestic enemy, I just KNOW you are looking in the mirror again. How you can look at yourself and not barf is beyond me.


  39. jp says:

    Remember the troop surge is just to secure a city, not a country!


  40. AboveTheClouds says:

    Graham stands behind the man who takes his advice from Karl Rove and also let Donald Rumsfeld lead his military and he calls the opposition “losers?” Even after all the name calling–people still don’t give a shit about Iraq and the only people sacrificing for the war effort are the soldiers and their families. Otherwise, we were told by Bush to “go shopping.”


  41. tablogloid says:

    posts #25 and 30 by Mr. President: You have no argument and like your precious republicans you resort to personal insults that have nothing to do with the topic.


  42. Mistress Z says:

    If the Dems think the war has been lost, ipso facto, they think the troops are losers. open your cot damn eyes Dems
    Comment by Mr. President

    That’s the way losers like you think, Mr P.
    Fortunately, we don’t think the way you do.


  43. Mr. President says:

    Actuall #25 hits the nail square on the head, tablogoid, #30 is cot damn hilarious. Nailed It!


  44. Mr. President says:

    Tell me how someone can lose and not be a loser. The law of the excluded middle, biyatchs!


  45. valiant venus says:

    Uncle Ho – The only DOMESTIC enemies are those who :
    a.) want to kill us
    b.) give aid and comfort to our enemy by undermining policy while we are at war. (And for those of you “Peace at ALL Cost “Pariots’(?)” out there, our enemy gloats when seeing YOUR behaviour………

    Toooodles ……….


  46. Tobey Tall says:

    LATimes: Iraqis resist U.S. pressure to enact oil law

    It has not even reached parliament, but the oil law that U.S. officials call vital to ending Iraq’s civil war is in serious trouble among Iraqi lawmakers, many of whom see it as a sloppy document rushed forward to satisfy Washington’s clock.


  47. Mr. President says:

    Comment by valiant venus — May 13, 2007 @ 3:09 pm

    That’s right… Hoe, you embolden the enemy!


  48. Tobey Tall says:

    The troops are losing their lifes YES for a loser President

    The republican name calling has stooped to a new low level – losers


  49. Tobey Tall says:

    Mr President is the most annoying person to be on this site ever – apart from the real one


  50. Mistress Z says:

    Comment by valiant venus — May 13, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
    That’s right… Hoe, you embolden the enemy!
    Comment by Mr. President

    The most sensible thing you’ve said all day, Mr P.

    Isn’t your Mummy expecting you today…..?


  51. Gregor Samsa says:

    If you think that we lost, ipso facto, you think the US troops are losers.
    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

    Not so fast.

    First, wars are also lost due to poor strategic decisions. Like invading a country that posed no threat, having no clear objectives for the occupation, and vowing to “stay the course” -reality be damned.

    Second, you are trying -at all cost- to use the word “loser” knowing fully well it already has emotionally charged meaning. Your argument is specious at best.

    But then, you are the twit who didn’t know John Edwards (the American vice-presidential candidate in 2004) and Jonathan Edwards (the 18th century American philosopher) are two different people.


  52. Uncle Ho says:

    valiant moron; have you EVER considered the fact that our policy is illegal, immoral, and unjustified and it DESERVES TO BE UNDERMINED? Bush, Cheney, Wolfie, Perle, Feith, et al are JUST AS GUILTY AS Hitler, Goering, Goebbels, et al of WAR CRIMES. Read about Supreme Court Robert Jackson at Nuremberg. and I quote; ” the defendents here are not on trial for losing the war, but for starting it”. Give THAT some thought, If you ARE capable of thinking.


  53. Mr. President says:

    Oh you saw that, did ya? Yeah, good stuff, good stuff.

    But anyway, are you denying that there are some Dems who think that we lost the war in Iraq?

    If not,

    Do you not believe in the words “united we stand”?

    If you do,

    Do you not also believe in the words “divided we fall”?

    If you do, what are the Dems doing to maintain the unity?

    this is for G.S. and anyone else


  54. Gregor Samsa says:

    Comment by valiant venus — May 13, 2007 @ 3:09 pm

    Well, it’s none other than Varmint Venous, babbling nonsense once again.

    Varmint, you obviously haven’t noticed -you are too busy “staying the course” of supporting your Dear (mis)Leader- but the occupation of Iraq is an utter disgrace, serves no purpose other than piss off the Iraqis, none of the original reasons given by the Bush administration for the invasion have turned out to be true, and the stated excuses to continue the occupation look weaker as time goes by.

    As I’ve told you before, don’t come here to insult us because you were too gullible, too willfully deceived, or too stupid (the more likely explanation) to support military action against Iraq. You’d be better off if you tried to learn from your own mistakes.


  55. Mistress Z says:

    #50 – Uncle Ho

    I’m going to take a wild guess, and say NO — she has never, and will never consider that the policy ought to be undermined.


  56. proudleftists says:

    There are no printable words that describe Senator Graham.


  57. paul says:

    Democrat Senator Calls President “a loser”. I’m sure the founding fathers would be proud.


  58. Uncle Ho says:

    Prez, see above post to the valiant moron. It is an ILLEGAL war no different than Hitler invading Poland. We DESERVE to LOSE. If you support the Iraq war, you sympathize with war criminals. Take it on out of here scumbag.


  59. Mistress Z says:

    Democrat Senator Calls President “a loser”. I’m sure the founding fathers would be proud.
    Comment by paul

    Yes, they would be proud — and impressed.


  60. Uncle Ho says:

    Hiya Zooey! All done with exams?


  61. Jim Wolf359 says:

    #55-DEMOCRATIC Sen. Boxer just calling it like it is. Because he is a LOSER>


  62. Granola Hippy says:

    Wow, she told him! Funny how Wolf only interrupted Boxer, didn’t even try with Graham…


  63. Gregor Samsa says:

    yeah don’t come here and complain about us being communists and terrorist supporters we hate America and will do what ever it takes to destroy it


  64. Gregor Samsa says:

    Oh you saw that, did ya? Yeah, good stuff, good stuff.
    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

    Yes. I also read your post pooh pooh-ing someone for not having read your link -as if it had any validity. Stupid.

    But anyway, are you denying that there are some Dems who think that we lost the war in Iraq?

    Obviously your reading comprehension didn’t improve -and won’t improve overnight.

    Re-read your argument, and then re-read my response to you.

    If you do, what are the Dems doing to maintain the unity?

    I really don’t care what they do or don’t.

    You are a follower and so what I will say is for the benefit of other posters here: I am not a follower. I will not put my head down, and stand by an ill-fated decision just for the sake of “maintaining unity”.

    I will certainly not keep quiet just to maintain whatever unity the Dear (mis)Leader has decided on.


  65. Willy says:

    It’s comical to watch loser trolls like valium venas whine while their party and their president are in free fall. Confirmed LOSERS to the end. Though unfortunately, all the damage done by Bush and his enablers is NOT at all funny. Enjoy your lengthy stay in hell, evil bastards.


  66. Mistress Z says:

    Hiya Zooey! All done with exams?
    Comment by Uncle Ho

    Hi, Uncle Ho! Yep, all done with exams. Aced ‘em, too. :)

    I’m a free woman for the summer. Might work a bit for the old zoo creatures, and I’ll be taking a roadtrip somewhere.

    Things going well for you?


  67. Gregor Samsa says:

    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

    In brief, MP: Given the current circumstances, you will have to excuse me if I piss on your sad “unity”.


  68. Mr. President says:

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — May 13, 2007 @ 3:33 pm

    What did Hannah Arendt call the affliction that I suffer from?


  69. Mr. President says:

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — May 13, 2007 @ 3:36 pm

    It’s all good, I’m not really political. I’m writing my term papers and I like to come on this site when I’m coming up with ideas and stuff.


  70. VerbalKint says:

    Trolls continue to let their man-love-worship for the CIC cloud their ability to perceive basic elements of reality.

    By the way, I think Mr. President sounds a lot like Jake, but even more bitter and cynical.


  71. Mistress Z says:

    Yeah I have all summer to be the skanky slut I am,think I will bang the entire Communist National Party


  72. Willy says:

    Up yours, namejacker #66


  73. Gregor Samsa says:

    Oh, and MP,

    I am not the only one to piss on yours and your Dear (mis)Leader’s “unity”: Check the Hagel thread. Republican Congresscritters are also frustrated with the current state of affairs regarding Iraq, and are saying that Pres Bush “may find himself standing alone sometime this fall.”

    So much for your “unity”. Or was that thread beyond your reading comprehension abilities too?

    Obviously the losers are this disgrace of an administration and those who stand by it.


  74. VerbalKint says:

    #66 shut up and leave, freak


  75. Uncle Ho says:

    Mistress; things going OK- not great, but not bad either, except for the dipshit trolls-”there are none so blind as those who refuse to see”.


  76. Cpl Frank says:

    Uncle Ho,
    When I tried to join the Legion in ‘72,for the sole pupose of drinking 25cent can beer from 3:00-6:00 weekdays,(even though I had been Medically Retired from the Marine Corps in ‘69 100%) ,the old fart said there was a witing list and I’d have to sign-up. I asked him how far down would I be on the waiting list,and he said,” Got two Korean War Boys in last year”!
    Drank my beer and left!
    Semper Fi!


  77. Willy says:

    I must have hit a hot button with the namejacker on #66. Did I hit a little too close to home? Poor baby.


  78. Gregor Samsa says:

    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 3:39 pm

    I know what *I* would call it:

    “I don’t give a damn”, or “Blind Bush personality cult follower”.

    Perhaps a mix of the two.


  79. pee wee says:

    willy,#66
    You’re not the least bit funny,run along and let the grown-ups talk!


  80. Briseadh na Faire says:

    “United we stand, divided we fall.”

    78% are standing for Peace.

    Think about it.


  81. Mistress Z says:

    Thank god I am done with exams now I can be the skanky slut I am by banging the entire National Communist Party


  82. Willy says:

    #66 was a namejacking


  83. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Zooey,

    Happy Mommie’s Day!


  84. VerbalKint says:

    If you do, what are the Dems doing to maintain the unity?
    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

    Notice how the cowardly troll begs for unity when he knows his side is losing its grip on power. Just like the Republicans ask for bipartisanship.

    The hypocrisy is absolutely pathological. These are morally deficient people we are dealing with.


  85. Mr. President says:

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — May 13, 2007 @ 3:44 pm

    For some reason, the word “ban*l” is considered offensive, when it certainly is not. When ever I try to use the word on the other thread, my post is taken down, go figure?

    * = a


  86. Mistress Z says:

    #66 – Mr President

    Stop hijacking names.


  87. Uncle Ho says:

    #66 & 83; take it on OUT of here you sick f*ck.


  88. Mistress Z says:

    Mistress; things going OK- not great, but not bad either, except for the dipshit trolls-”there are none so blind as those who refuse to see”.
    Comment by Uncle Ho

    You are so very correct, Uncle Ho.

    Things will be going great for you in no time. :)


  89. Willy says:

    #83 – another namejacking. Is that you valium venus? You Republicans have no ethics.


  90. Mistress Z says:

    Zooey,
    Happy Mommie’s Day!
    Comment by Briseadh na Faire

    Thank you, my dear friend!


  91. Gregor Samsa says:

    Notice how the cowardly troll begs for unity [...]
    Comment by VerbalKint — May 13, 2007 @ 3:47 pm

    Not to mention that the unity they so yap about could very well be on the side of withdrawing the troops from Iraq. But nooo, they choose to use “unity” in terms of following the Leader -hence committing another logical fallacy.

    C’mon Mr. P -let’s unite. Let’s set a timeline for the withdrawal of the troops from Iraq, as most Americans now want.


  92. ImamKashif says:

    Perception is more powerfull than reality Vade retro satana, the problem wit Po’ white trash hilly billy Uncle Sammy is they R fight’n Islam on 4 different fronts and Allah U Alim (Allah is the best knower and Planner)


  93. Mr. President says:

    Comment by Mistress Z — May 13, 2007 @ 3:51 pm

    Zing!!!!!!

    You forget, my mistress, I don’t cut and run, I never change names.

    *I* was at a local grade school.


  94. Gregor Samsa says:

    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 3:48 pm

    ::sigh::

    I know what the banality of evil is.

    It doesn’t apply to you.


  95. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Is there a Moderator in the House? Get this Sicko off this board, NOW!


  96. Uncle Ho says:

    Hey Corp, Join V.V.A.W. or Vietnam Veterans of America. I did, would NEVER consider the Legion or VFW even with their begging(the WWII farts are dieing off and they need new blood- been wanting me to join now). If I was not good enough for them back then, f*ck them now.


  97. VerbalKint says:

    Well I see that a sick, pathetic, lonely, mean little person is determined to wallow in the gutter with pedophile talk. Must be a Republican, huh? Not surprising that this determined little liar would namejack someone to put on its sick little display.


  98. Willy says:

    #66 #83 #91 – Namejacking by Republican trolls.

    You’re only making yourselves look bad. Keep up the self-destruction.


  99. Mistress Z says:

    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 3:56 pm

    Like I’d believe anything you say. This happens very often when you’re around, doesn’t it?


  100. Uncle Ho says:

    #91 is ANOTHER NAMEJACKING. Not me, the REAL Uncle Ho. TP kick this sick scumbag out of here.


  101. valiant venus says:

    Ho, Your ideology and facts do not support your statement that our war is not illegal, immoral and unjustified. The only thing questionable about the US execution of the Iraq War is that it did not START sooner and be over and done with by NOW!

    The reason you are mistaken about legality is the fact you refuse to acknowledge the 1991 Gulf War Cease Fire. The persistent breach of Cease Fire terms is enough to resume hostilities at ANY time. (In terms you might understand – think of those felons who violate parole…) Hence…..NO ILLEGAL WAR.

    Re: “Morality” – Which way is the wind blowing today, Ho? The “morality” of the Left is so relative, it has become a convenient buzzword. Next….

    Your charge of “unjustified” is disingenuous at best. Since the National Security Estimate, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, et al. thought Saddam was a formidable threat who had used chemical weapons in the past. In addition, most foreign and domestic agencies who studied Saddam agreed he was seeking the development of nuclewar weapons.

    Should your preposterous “Bush/Facist” analogy be believed, I would say your “side” would be heroes if Congress were suspended, and the “traitors” rounded up and taken to concentration camps to face torture and death. But alas, your rhetoric and hyperbole do NOT match the truth.

    I am sorry people like you aid our enemies. While I was not in aggreement with Bill Clinton often, I supported his stance on Bosnia due to the disgust that registered with me about ethnic cleansing of Muslims. I wrote three pieces for The San Diego Union Tribune, the Los Angeles Times and the North County Times in support of president Clinton and that war effort. And how do the radical Islamists thank the US and her Allies?

    In conclusion, Ho, get back to the “important” work you do to undermine US policy. I’m sure those bus rides and picket signs give meaning to your sad life……

    ’til later……We’re off to the SD Zooo………


  102. VerbalKint says:

    I think what the namejacker is trying to say is that he would support the ACLU if only it would enable him to legally engage in pedophilia. Of course it is preposterous that the ACLU or any other decent organization would do anything of the kind. So our namejacker has developed a bad case of animosity towards the ACLU.

    Right namejacker?


  103. Mr. President says:

    Comment by ImamKashif — May 13, 2007 @ 3:55 pm

    Blow the Oliphant Roland, Monjoie!!!!


  104. Willy says:

    #66 #83 #91 #98 – Namejacking by right-wing trolls.


  105. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Think Progress: There is SERIOUS Problem here. Please deal with this now. There is no place for the trash this Namejacker is doing in our names. GET HIM OFF OF HERE!


  106. Mr. President says:

    Comment by Mistress Z — May 13, 2007 @ 3:59 pm

    When they kick whoever is doing off then you’ll know.

    I stay the course


  107. Gregor Samsa says:

    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 3:48 pm

    ::sigh::

    I know what the expression “banality of evil” means.

    It doesn’t apply to you.


  108. valiant venus says:

    “We DESERVE to LOSE.” – Comment by Tokyo Ho

    Ho, you traitor – you pathetic piece of dung. So Barbara Boxer is wrong when she ways our military are winners…..

    Gone in 60Seconds……….


  109. Captain Mantastic says:

    Mistress Z. congratulations on passing your exams. Now, that your better educated, are the Bush policies making more sense?


  110. pgl says:

    Lindsey Graham does not realize he is a Senator. He still thinks he’s a member of the House and that the hack known as Denny Hastert is still the Speaker. What a shameful little man he truly is.


  111. Willy says:

    #66 #83 #91 #98 #104 – Namejacking by right-wing trolls.

    Go away, little boy.


  112. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Wrong Valient Venus, Wrong Again.


  113. Uncle Ho says:

    valiant moron; don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out. and don’t come back.


  114. Willy says:

    http://www.topix.net/forum/city/arlington-va/TNTU32JK142TSPSL8/p2

    Verbalcunt,get infromed we liberals are the party of pedophiles


  115. Gregor Samsa says:

    So Barbara Boxer is wrong when she ways our military are winners…..
    Comment by valiant venus — May 13, 2007 @ 4:04 pm

    Varmint Venous, you’ve lost the argument so many times it’s not even funny anymore.

    Go check the Hagel thread. Read how Republicans are also looking for ways to withdraw the troops from Iraq.

    Do you enjoy being a verbal punching bag?


  116. deport neocon filth says:

    Boxer up and made graham her bitch in less than sixty seconds flat. in another two minutes, she would have had him wearing a french maid’s uniform, carrying a pink feather duster. perhaps graham should go back to buying 5 dollar rugs in baghdad like june cleaver and leave leading the nations to those who know what the hell they’re talking about


  117. Mistress Z says:

    #112

    Thanks for copying that filth, Mr P. Oy…


  118. Willy says:

    #66 #83 #91 #98 #104 #113 – Namejacking by trolls.

    With people like this, no wonder the Republican party is self-destructing.


  119. Mistress Z says:

    Mistress Z. congratulations on passing your exams. Now, that your better educated, are the Bush policies making more sense?
    Comment by Captain Mantastic

    Less than ever. Why do you ask?


  120. WH Chief of Staph says:

    Mr. Precedent, sir?
    The staff wishes extend their condolences on the loss of your mind.
    While nothing to brag about to begin with, your latest episode has been more than they are able to tolerate, and they have asked me to bring you their letter of mass resignation.
    As far as your next weeks schedule goes, I have cancelled your Monday photo spray with the Children Left Behind, there were simply to many thousands of them to accomodate, and that was just the Washington DC group.
    The Tuesday meeting of the Survivors of Hurricane Katrina as well I have cancelled, they were unable to afford transportation to the capital.
    The steering committee of your Texas base has withdrawn your invitation to their Wednesday pot-luck, no reason was given.
    Looks like you can simply take the week off, sir, Congress seems to be getting a handle on solving your Iraq problem.
    Before you head for the ranch, might I suggest you call the Town Clerk in Crawford, seems you are in arrears since 2001 on your property taxes, and the tax sale is Monday (gracious, that’s tomorrow!)
    I hereby tender my resignation, effective immediately, good luck, you’re going to need it. Please don’t worry about a letter of recommendation, I won’t want, excuse me, I mean need one.
    Sir.


  121. VerbalKint says:

    Back on topic: Graham says of the surge “I’ll take the consequences of its failure.” How? How will he take the consequences of thousands of needless deaths? Will he offer himself up for execution? I doubt he will so much as step down from office.

    This is pussy stuff, Senator Graham. Pussies say they will take the consequences when they know they won’t really have to.


  122. Mr. President says:

    Sorry Z, but you accused me of cowardice.

    and hey, it could have been worse. I could have started singing Brooks and Dunn to ya.


  123. VerbalKint says:

    With people like this, no wonder the Republican party is self-destructing.
    Comment by Willy — May 13, 2007 @ 4:13 pm

    Karl Rove has distilled the party base down to an ever-shrinking band of pathetic dead-enders, mostly superstitious, ignorant, racist, xenophobic, homophobic bedwetters who worship authoritarianism.


  124. kasinca says:

    I got an email from Barbara Boxer requesting support for re-election in ‘10. She has it. God bless someone with the fortitude to stand up against evil and wrong.


  125. Jules says:

    Well. I have got to tell you this unity thing is working down here i the heart of Texas. W stickers are being peeled from autos in droves. It is so rare to see a W sticker on a car it is almost a shock to see one.

    Zoo – I am so glad school went so well. My daughter graduates on the 26th. I am so thankful her senior year is almost over. This has probably been the most difficult year of her life to date. If I hear one more person say that God only gives you as much as you can handle I will punch them right in the freaking mouth!!!

    But….she has been accepted to the college that she decided she wanted to attend when she was in the eighth grade (she would not even apply anywhere else). In addition, a number of very good friends are also attending that university and they will be living in the same dorm :). She is (relatively) happy, healthy, and has turned into quite a wonderful young lady. If adversity does nothing else, it brings out the true character in a person!


  126. ace says:

    The towers were full of asbestos – which was well known by the port authority, Larry Silverstein and Rudy.

    Halliburton acquired the asbestos liabilities of Dresser when Cheney was the CEO, as it was Cheney’s decision to purchase Dresser, the primary shareholders of which were the Bush family. The decision cost Halliburton shareholders billions in the short run, as the stock was pummeled by billions in Asbestos related court awards.

    Fast forward to 9/11, and Rudy is exiting building 7 before the Towers collapse – apparently with his own camera crew at the ready. Cheney is directing the action from his bunker. Bush subsequently calls for Asbestos liability reform in a state of the union speech, and Cheney ensures that Halliburton’s stock rebounds handsomely – thanks to no- bid contracts and endless war.

    The only way for Christine Todd Whitman to have declared that the air at Ground Zero was safe to breath was that she was on the inside with the rest of the criminals – on their payroll.

    In a court of law, these acts are known as sedition, fraud and treason – and of course – murder.

    David Rockefeller knows everything, as does W’s father.


  127. deport neocon filth says:

    the question remains, what makes graham and the rest of the waaahhhpublicans think this surge will succeed when the previous four have failed? because they said so? roflmao


  128. Gregor Samsa says:

    Let’s don’t declare this war lost,

    There, in one simple sentence, is explained the reasons behind the undying support of the cultists for the failed policies of their Dear (mis)Leader: He is able to dazzle them with his eloquence, and rhetorical skills.

    And think these are the people who get elected into public office.

    ::sigh::


  129. heyzeus says:

    I have watched and listened to Senator Barbara Boxer speak, she is an exceptionally articulate and intelligent person.
    She has a level of integrity light years beyond most of the other blathering politicians she has to contend with.
    Any support or encouragement I can offer, I will do so gladly.


  130. Uncle Ho says:

    Z; congrats on your exams, meant to say it sooner, but got sidetracked with all that troll shit.


  131. Mistress Z says:

    Comment by Jules — May 13, 2007 @ 4:25 pm

    Congratulations to your daughter! On her graduation and getting into the college of her choice.

    If I hear one more person say that God only gives you as much as you can handle I will punch them right in the freaking mouth!!!

    Ugh. I HATE that! That, and “There’s a place in heaven for you!” People used to say those things when my eldest was growing up. I always managed a smile, but I wanted to smack the back of their head.

    If your daughter is anything like you, she’ll be just fine. :)


  132. Mistress Z says:

    Z; congrats on your exams, meant to say it sooner, but got sidetracked with all that troll shit.
    Comment by Uncle Ho

    Completely understandable. Thanks, Uncle Ho. :)


  133. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    Yup, but see, I’M a LOSER and a TRAITOR to the USA who really doesn’t CARE about you POOR and MIDDLE-CLASS scumbags, only my rich OIL and SAUDI buddies.

    That’s WHY I send YOUR kids to DIE for my WAR CRIMES, not
    MINE!!!

    Flibbity-Jabbity-Jibbity!!!

    Heh heh heh…

    See YOU in hell my amerikaNazi azzhole-lickers,


    Mr. Bush
    MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
    COWARDLY PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo, Inc.)


  134. valiant venus says:

    Just arrived at the San Diego Zoo – I showed Prince Valiant that the elitist intelligensia here at TP censor AND delte my posts while allowing the filth of a pedophile to continue – Adios!!!!


  135. Kate Henry says:

    You go girl. Barbara Boxer really knows how to bitch-slap those Rethugs. I say Boxer for President!


  136. Mr. President says:

    Yeah let’s all right in Boxer for prez.!!!!

    Boxer/Rodham-Clinton ‘08

    You got my vote!


  137. Kay says:

    OFF TOPIC :

    This is what we are dealing with here :

    George Walker, GW’s great-grandfather, set up the takeover of the Hamburg-America Line, a cover for I.G. Farben’s Nazi espionage unit in the United States. In Germany, I.G. Farben was most famous for putting the gas in gas chambers; it was the producer of Zyklon B and other gasses used on victims of the Holocaust. The Bush family was not unaware of the nature of their investment partners. They hired Allen Dulles, the future head of the CIA, to hide the funds they were making from Nazi investments and the funds they were sending to Nazi Germany, rather than divest. It was only in 1942, when the government seized Union Banking Company assets under the Trading With The Enemy Act, that George Walker and Prescott Bush stopped pumping money into Hitler’s regime. (1)


  138. SKdeA says:

    Hey Zooey, if you come out west on your road trip, my spare room is yours!
    Can you believe the vapid idiocy of Mr. President out resident dimwit? Can’t we get some better trolls? These are completely worn out…


  139. Kate Henry says:

    I read about 30 posts here and was really encouraged. It looked like the people posting here had decided to ignore the trolls and let them talk to each other. But, then, I was disappointed. Can’t we just ignore the ignorant trolls? If we don’t feed them they will go away. There is no reason to try to talk to them. They are only here to hijack the threads and get us off topic. PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!


  140. veritas says:

    Lindsay Graham is a hate-filled, bigoted jackass. When he opens his mouth the only thing spews forth is more discriminating filth. Now he’s trying to put hateful words in people’s mouths regarding the troops and Boxer gave him a 1-2 punch for it. Lindsay Graham is a case study for “you spot it/you got it”. He’s “projecting” his level of hate on others in insinuating that people are saying derogatory things about the troops. He’s the one with this crap in his own mind. What a filthpot this guy is.


  141. Mistress Z says:

    Just arrived at the San Diego Zoo – I showed Prince Valiant that the elitist intelligensia here at TP censor AND delte my posts while allowing the filth of a pedophile to continue – Adios!!!!
    Comment by valiant venus

    Tooooooodles!!


  142. Mistress Z says:

    Hey Zooey, if you come out west on your road trip, my spare room is yours!
    Can you believe the vapid idiocy of Mr. President out resident dimwit? Can’t we get some better trolls? These are completely worn out…
    Comment by SKdeA

    Thanks so much, SKdeA! I wish I was going that far, but with gas prices the way they are, I’ll probably end up driving around the block a couple times. :-D

    We definitely need a new stock of trolls. Especially those who can use their own names.


  143. kasinca says:

    Barbara Boxer is so right…the troops are doing what the loser warmongering chickenshit chickenhawks tell them to do. There is no enemy. We are in the middle of a civil war started by American cowards who think the military is for the profits of the military industrial complex and oil companies. Those chickenshit cowards never served in battle and neither have their brown shirt followers. Fucking cowards all.


  144. Briseadh na Faire says:

    We definitely need a new stock of trolls. Especially those who can use their own names.

    Comment by Mistress Z — May 13, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

    It’s only the middle of the month and they’ve run out of their meds already!

    I’ve sent several comments to management. Perhaps by Monday today’s threads will get cleaned up.


  145. big papa says:

    Wolf Blitzer showed photos of Lindsey in camouflage fatigues, flak jacket, and a .45 on his hip…

    …I guess Lindsey spent a week there…

    …and the Blitzer show tried to make Graham out to be a “National Guardsman who served in Iraq”…

    …they related a sob story about some “friend” of Graham’s who was killed…

    …what a crock of Bushit…


  146. m12 says:

    What the hell does that useless tree hunger Boxer know compared to a military veteran like Lindsey Graham?

    If I wanted Boxer’s expertise, I’d ask her how to bake cookies for my future grandkids.


  147. Mistress Z says:

    I’ve sent several comments to management. Perhaps by Monday today’s threads will get cleaned up.
    Comment by Briseadh na Faire

    I’ve been reporting them, as well. It’s disgusting.


  148. Mr. President says:

    Damn, dis cooky witch gets off on some macabre shiiit


  149. kasinca says:

    #145 What does a drunken AWOL coward like Dubya and his sidekick five deferment Cheney and the rest of the PNAC which is made up of cowards who have never served, hell most of the GOP never served. It doesn’t require military experience to have brains although I would rather follow someone who has served into battle.

    Are all you bastards on the reich, m12, president, and valium sucker all idiots? I assume you are, you are still supporting a failed leader and failed policy. Get a fucking life.


  150. Cpt Crepitus says:

    Looks like the troll police have taken the weekend off.
    You trolls get a pass today, so let the shine of your wisdom come through. In other words, say something with some actual meaning or STFU.


  151. barfly says:

    What the hell does that useless tree hunger Boxer know compared to a military veteran like Lindsey Graham?

    Graham has disgraced his former service, and those who served with him in the JAG.


  152. Mr. President says:

    What the hell does that useless tree hunger Boxer know compared to a military veteran like Lindsey Graham?

    If I wanted Boxer’s expertise, I’d ask her how to bake cookies for my future grandkids.

    Comment by m12 — May 13, 2007 @ 6:13 pm

    Heyoooooo!!!!!!!!!

    You Nailed It, m12!!!!!


  153. defense of children says:

    Hey pedophile,
    Are you so stupid that you don’t realize that I now have your IP address. Be very carefull about what you’re saying you want to do to children. I take particular offense.


  154. kasinca says:

    How many of the chickenhawk chickenshit trolls on this board have served in battle, or even the military? Why do all the generals who have served in Iraq and got out speak against this goofy son of a bitch we have as president? Just curious.


  155. liz says:

    He may just suffer some consequences in his home state too. No one in SC except the elite money people support him. Unfortunately, we do have a good many money elite Republicans but at some point they will turn and puke too.


  156. Toby says:

    Good for you Babs! You go girl!

    Happy Mom’s Day!


  157. Judy says:

    Sen. Graham did mention in the interview that the administration had screwed up the war in the beginning. He had called for more troops before the administration was willing to send more. He was severely critical of the administration during the Abu Ghraib scandal. He is a man of principal and not a robot. He also served some time in Iraq and plans to go back in the fall.

    One could criticize Mrs. Boxer for the same thing because she repeated the Democratic talking points with no on the ground knowledge.


  158. Judy says:

    Graham just served in Iraq with the JAGs in the Rule of Law Task Force. If you listened to the entire interview he talked about that.


  159. Badger says:

    America WON the War when Saddam’s statue was pulled down. It is the OCCUPATION that we have lost. How do you Win an occupation anyway….especially when everything BAD that happens in Iraq is blamed on America.???


  160. Marie says:

    Our country is presided over by a loser.
    George Bush, is a loser, always has been, always will be. He has accomplished nothing good in his lifetime – he is a leech upon others. He is a facade of a leader. He is a fake.

    THANK YOU BARBARA BOXER.

    Lindsey Graham is living in a dream world – I used to give him some credit because of his credentials, but he is a lackey for Bush, he is playing follow the loser, and as he advocates another 6 months for the “surge” to work – how many more will die? How much more will it cost? And in six months, there is still no guarantee of anything different from what we have today.
    I can already hear speech writers gathering phrases and key words to use in September’s defense that we need to extend the sure another 3 months.


  161. big papa says:

    Comment by Judy #’s156 & 157

    Judy,

    …sounds like YOU should go with Graham in the fall…

    …since you’ve “fallen” for their Bushit…

    …don’t bother responding…

    …NOTHING you can say…

    …will EVER convince me that you’re anything but a…

    …CONNED’selfserving, al Ceeracka, inbred, TREASONOUS, fool…


  162. muckdog says:

    Barbara Boxer is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

    The tornado that hit Kansas (”killing 10,000″ – Obama) was only the 2nd biggest wind that day. The #1 wind being the one that blows between Boxer’s ears.


  163. big papa says:

    Comment by muckdog #160

    muckraker…

    …why do you hate American freedom, democracy, diversity, and equality?


  164. Cpt Crepitus says:

    Hey dickmog, your fuehrer needs a volunteer to czar over the Iraq mess. You seem to be emininenty qualified and nobody else wants to do it, so call Rove at 1-800-Flunkey.


  165. heyzeus says:

    You’ve just dropped a few steps on the evolutionary ladder, mudpuppy.


  166. Choclate Jesus loves anulingus says:

    > I showed Prince Valiant – valiant vegan meganmethhead

    funny, your myspace page says your single. and judging from the amount of hair on your arms, i dont think theres anyway you even get raped in a mens prison.

    is Prince Valiant as real as the law degree you refuse to tell us anything about?

    > I repeat: If you say “this war is lost” that
    >means, ipso facto, somebody lost the war.
    > -Mr. Prez

    hahaha, oh, “ipso facto”.. big word there Mr. Prez.. so tell me.. by that logic, who are you saying lost the vietnam war “the troops”….right?

    >The tornado that hit Kansas (”killing 10,000″ – Obama) was only the 2nd >biggest wind that day. -duckdog

    Hhahaha. Hey muckdog, when we’re talking numbers, you care to remind us how much Wolfiewitz and crew was off about how much the iraq war and resulting occuptation would cost (”the recontruction will pay for itself”) ? Or Rummie about how long it would last (”I cant imagine it lasting more than 6 months”)? Or those who fired General Shinseki(??) for saying several hundred thousand troops would be needed to occupy iraq?

    Obama wasnt in charge of handling the Kansas tornado aftermath, so we may want to give his gross overestimate regarding that issue a bit more leeway than the gross underestimations about the war, made by its architechts?

    Hey, muckdog you agree with the people whose articles you quote about the fact that cigarettes arent bad for you, and asbestos could have saved the world trade center? hahahahah


  167. big papa says:

    If the chymp were truly a commander guy, he’d take a cue and resign.

    Comment by Cpt Crepitus #77

    Sorry Cap’n…

    …one doesn’t quit…

    …a “Gravy Train”…

    …with so much upside potential…

    …look around you…

    …how many MORE stupid people do you see who have their heads buried in the Presidency’s a*s…

    …than those who are SCREAMING to stop this madness and calling for Bushiva, L’il Dick et al. to be brought to justice?


  168. Technodaoist says:

    OOooooooooooooooo….

    SNAP!


  169. Wretched Refuse says:

    She should of added, “The troops names in my office Linsey, are being killed by the likes of you and Bush. You must be a good BUSHIE Lindsey. “


  170. Wretched Refuse says:

    He also served some time in Iraq and plans to go back in the fall.

    Comment by Judy — May 13, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

    Now THAT is a GREAT Dukakis moment. Lindsey Graham in a helmet.
    Oh I can fucking see it now.


  171. Wretched Refuse says:

    He also served some time in Iraq and plans to go back in the fall.

    Comment by Judy — May 13, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

    Now THAT is a true Dukakis moment. Graham in a helmet.
    Oh, I would give my right nut to see that.


  172. m12 says:

    #152

    As opposed to Babs Boxer’s extensive experience on the ground?


  173. circusfifthfloor says:

    Mr. President, little George. Your dad and I have told you not to troll with your Mr. President handle. Let Karl do it for you, from now on, ok sweetie? Love, Mom an Dad….idiot.. “Now Babs, don’t be too hard on him, he’ll be back home with us soon”.


  174. Osama bin Laden says:

    As opposed to Babs Boxer’s extensive experience on the ground?

    Comment by m12

    Wanna buy a rug? Half-price for rugs with blood-stains and scorch-marks.

    I’m still waiting for you to get off your well-padded ass, and come get me, tough-guy.


  175. Choclate Jesus loves anulingus says:

    >As opposed to Babs Boxer’s extensive experience on the ground?

    BM1-2 do you REALLY want to do a broad comparison on the war credentials of proponents of this war vs. opponents?

    Why dont you start by listing the combat experience, heck, even active duty service of any sort, of the politicians on your side?


  176. barfly says:

    is Prince Valiant as real as the law degree you refuse to tell us anything about?

    The “Prince” is Val’s little battery-operated savior, daily rescueing her from her dreary, loveless existence. And, ss a proper gentleman should, he always lets her climax first. That’s why he’s The Prince.


  177. Jay Randal says:

    Graham needs to go back to Iraq to buy some more rugs, but without 100 troops guarding him with helicopter gunships flying overhead. Bye Lindsey you dumb fool.


  178. Moderation says:

    Just arrived at the San Diego Zoo – I showed Prince Valiant that the elitist intelligensia here at TP censor AND delte my posts while allowing the filth of a pedophile to continue – Adios!!!!

    Comment by valiant venus — May 13, 2007 @ 5:19 pm

    How to point out to everyone that you are the idiot who posted the pedophilia name-jacking posts in one easy step. Everybody, I give you valiant venus! *raucous applause*

    Congratulate her on her complete lack of understanding of psychology, and hope that you get to play her in poker one day; I have no doubt whatsover that she has extraordinarily obvious tells.

    Transparent, much?


  179. Blue Girl, Red State says:

    Did someone spike Senator Boxers Wheaties this morning?


  180. lunacy says:

    Way to go Sen. Boxer! Sock it to ‘em! Finally, someone with balls to say it the way it is.

    “The loser is the commander in chief who has not led our country well.”


  181. paland says:

    I repeat: If you say “this war is lost” that means, ipso facto, somebody lost the war. If you think that we lost, ipso facto, you think the US troops are losers.

    Comment by Mr. President — May 13, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

    This is not true at all. In fact, soldiers hardly ever lose wars. The leaders, their strategies and policies lose wars. You just made a statement, twisted it saying since B=M then, and you know damn well B does NOT equal M. Each of those if/then are total hogwash.

    It’s people like you who really insult the troops and us vets with your BS. Real American is not your America. Get with the program dude. You may not realize it but your shit views are actually doing this country grave harm. If you really want to help this country, then help save it from the Bush Policies. Until then, stop insulting us vets and soldiers.


  182. bogtrotters says:

    She kicked his ass. Lindsey: Take a hint from your state’s history: Secede IMMEDIATELY.


  183. Jesus was Gay says:

    All of the right wingers seem to have a 12 year old mentality. The fascination with little boys…


  184. Left Coast Mike says:

    I really can’t wait for election day, the neocons and the rethuglican party are TOAST.


  185. RUCerious says:

    #180 ~ Oh yeah. I can’t wait for all six repiglickin Senators to show up in Jan 09.
    The repiglickin House caucus will meet in the back of an old Econoline.


  186. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    As opposed to Babs Boxer’s extensive experience on the ground?
    Comment by m12

    No, as opposed to MY experience on the GROUND. After I was GROUNDED from flight for FAILING TO FOLLOW ORDERS.

    THEN I went AWOL for 18 months, but Daddy got me the “honorable discharge”.

    And I REALLY AM a TRAITOR coxucker PUNK (Jeff Gannon and Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove and pedophile Mark Foley joins in, too).

    See YOU in hell m12 (cause I’LL be THERE, as will Lindsay),

    Mr. Bush
    MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
    COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo, Inc.)


  187. CharlieyCregor says:

    “YOU GO GIRL!”..SENATOR LINDSEY….IS A “COMPLETE SCUMBAG”….AND HE WIL BE “LUCKY IF HE EVEN GETS RE-ELECTED”…AND…EVEN BEING A “JAG”….HE NOW…”DISCREDITS HIMSELF”…HAVING SERVED AS AS “JAG”..IN THE U.S. MILITARY!”

    I SAY….”GO 2 HELL …ALL U NEO-CONS!”

    Charlie C.


  188. Clemsy says:

    “You know you never defeated us on the battlefield,” the American Colonel said. The North Vietnamese colonel pondered this remark a moment. “That may be so,” he replied, “but it is also irrelevant.”


  189. Mr President says:

    there not losers there just dogs of war belonging to the devil


  190. theswan says:

    Senator, to bad the troops see right through your twisted talk. Chicken hawks like the senator spew this garbage believing that the troops are maybe “too stupid” to see or believe the truth. It’s the senators hangup at the troops expense.
    This is the bottom of the barrel for the hard right conseratives. Loosers the like.


  191. Disturbance says:

    You go Barb. You’re way late, but its good to hear a Democrat get some spine.


  192. Thumper says:

    Are the troops “Human Shields” for the Republicans?? Seems to me that they ‘hide’ behind the troops when ever someone disagrees with the war and how it is going. Saying that ‘we don’t support the troops’, I support the troops, bring them all home soon.


  193. Pete Bogs says:

    no, they’re calling you a loser, Lindsey… (say that 10x fast!)


  194. Karim says:

    Go get him Boxer.


  195. J-rock says:

    I repeat: If you say “this war is lost” that means, ipso facto, somebody lost the war. If you think that we lost, ipso facto, you think the US troops are losers.

    Comment by Mr. President

    There is no war. There is only an occupation following an illegal invasion. Your “reasoning” doesn’t apply. By the way, did you notice that you said “…if…WE…lost…the…TROOPS…are losers.” Talk about non-sequitur.


  196. IdahoMoe says:

    Is Lindsey a Homosexual? Just wondering.


  197. The Unknown Democrat says:

    I used to respect Lindsey Graham, but now I see him for what he really is. This guy is basically a partisan moron who will do or say anything to help this sinking ship of an administration. Keep up the insults you lying idiot. Go join the real military and stop hiding behind your congressional seat and fight for what you believe. He’s got no guts but wants to share in the glory. Senator Lindsey Graham is a chicken hawk and he’s more chicken thank hawk.


  198. buckles says:

    Mr. Five-rugs-for-five-bucks got the smackdown from one of those California lady liberals… I love it! These hard-core Republicans can’t take the thought of not winning. It’s all they want. They don’t care how many people die, as long as they win. They don’t care how many lives are in shambles, as long as they win.

    The only losers are those who continue to stand by a president who doesn’t deserve to be commander-in-chief to our troops.



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