Bush gave Saddam 48hrs(or was it 72hrs) to get out of Iraq with his sons, or the U.S. was coming to get him. Presumably if Saddam and Sons had left Iraq the U.S. wouldn’t have invaded. So, why no withdrawal after getting Saddam? “Saddam Leave or were invading” kind of implies(at least to me) that their would be no reason to stay after Saddam is gone. I’ve never heard anyone bring up this issue. I’m not saying the U.S. should have definitely withdrawn at that point, I just want to know why the U.S. didn’t.
If Saddam had left, would the invasion still have taken place.

Remember it takes two to tango; Congress had their hand in this messy also, they weren’t all lied too.

Bear that in mind the next time you go to vote, its time to clean House (and Senate).

My thing has always been why in the world does Bush think hes better than all those Famous men who lived and died trying to conqure that part of the world. Lets face it Alexander the Great grew up there and other than adding riches to the Crown of England, and the “Church” The Crusades were a total flop. Those two things tell me that when it comes to war people in the middle east still know how to do it.

I also find it funny that we crusify them for their urban gurrilla warfare when we used simmilar dirty tactics against the english.

You use what works. They know on an actual battlefield they can’t beat us but the first “White Men” to use the same tactics In an actual war can’t figure out how to combat them. We saw it in Vitnam with the bombs attached to children and we are seeing it now with there being bombs in the cars with pregnate women. No one can win these wars.

Bush is right if we pull out now it will only get worse because they will believe they won. On the other hand we shouldn’t have gone there in the first place. No matter how this ends I don’t think it can end. Weve created thousands of orphans. Sadam Hussan was an orphan. We are creating thousands of Sadam Hussans. We can come home today but we will be back in 20 or 30 years to remove yet another sadistic leader because we think we know more about how they should run their nation than they do. How many generations of American and Arabic blood is going to have to be spilled before we learn to use the telephone or even email to work out our differences? Normal everyday average people do it every day. Amazing that our goverement leaders can’t.

No one is innocent of this. The American people called for blood after 9-11 We have to own that and the fact we let this president have that much power because of our own anger and hate. Now we pay the price for doing what Toby Keith so elquantly called a boot up your A** I for one really do wish that was not the American way but unfortunatly for everyone it is and its what has gotten us here today.

Bush is an idiot yes. But we cannot forget we followed him blindly into this to begin with.

“It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.”
-Voltaire (1694-1778)

I don’t know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
-Albert Einstein

“Every gun that is made, every warship that is lauched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children…This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of war, it is humanity on a cross of iron.”
-Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953)

From that point on every American who voted for the GOP, a GOP which was being manipulated by Cheney and Rumsfeld in the Ford administration and by the neo-cons from Reagan’s time on, is complicit in what has brought us to this point.

Reagan Democrats should be the first ones to go when the civil war comes.

But the goal of the invasion and occupation of Iraq has nothing whatever to do with fighting terror, bringing democracy to or stablilizing the Middle East.

It always was about empire-building, usurping natural resources, establishing more military bases, depleting the US treasury, and enacting rigid controls over the US people through Constitution-shredding laws, executive orders and signing statements.

It’s nice that generals are stepping forward, but it’s too late now.

…better late than never…

…I guess…

Iraq can ONLY be solved by Iraqis…

…money has to pour into Iraq to get people working, infrastructure repaired…

…and people to feeling good about their neighborhoods and fellow countrypersons…

…help must come from the international community in concert…

…but NONE of this will happen as long as:

…U.S. troops continue to occupy the country…

…and the criminals Bushiva and L’il Dick are “FREE”…

…The DUHmerikkkan CONNED”selfservatives who support this criminal regime…

…and their Congressional minions and co-conspirators…

…are the ONLY ones who can put an end to this…

…these CONNED’selfserving scum are YOUR:

family members
neighbors
co-workers
friends
and associates…

…YOU must pressure THEM to “see the light”…