Pelosi Approval Unharmed After Syria, Iraq Smears
Pelosi Approval Unharmed After Syria, Iraq Smears
Despite weeks of relentless right-wing attacks, Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) latest approval ratings are virtually unchanged from results taken during the first week of April, a new AP/Ipsos poll shows.
Americans today approve of Pelosi’s handling of her job as Speaker by a margin of 45 percent to 42 percent, compared to the 46 percent/44 percent approval she received last month. President Bush’s ratings in the latest poll are 35 percent approval, 61 percent disapproval.
Pelosi’s steady rating comes after taking heavy fire from media figures and conservatives, first after leading a bipartisan delegation to Syria, then by helping to push the first Iraq withdrawal legislation through Congress. A few lowlights from April:
The Washington Post
“Two weeks ago Ms. Pelosi rammed legislation through the House of Representatives that would strip Mr. Bush of his authority as commander in chief to manage troop movements in Iraq. Now she is attempting to introduce a new Middle East policy that directly conflicts with that of the president. … Ms. Pelosi’s attempt to establish a shadow presidency is not only counterproductive, it is foolish.” [Link]
NBC News’ Matt Lauer and Tim Russert:
LAUER: But if the Democrats and Speaker Pelosi appear to be acting irresponsibly or incompetently, and let’s face it, a lot of people think she messed up on this one, what’s the impact for Democrats overall?
RUSSERT: It’s considerable. [Link]
CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux
“Why should the Americans, or even the international community, see this any more as a political stunt here, a publicity stunt, a big wet kiss to President Al-Assad?” [Link]
“Nancy Pelosi in Syria and in the crosshairs of Vice President Cheney. Is she on her way to becoming the most controversial House Speaker yet?” [Link]
Weekly Standard editor William Kristol
“The Speaker of the House is in Syria, a country aiding the terrorists attacking our troops. I think it is really a bad for America — I don’t want to be partisan — I really feel bad. I think it is a bad day for the U.S. policy that Speaker Pelosi made this trip.” [Link]
Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
“I respectfully and strongly disagree with Arlen Specter and with Nancy Pelosi. I believe her visit to Syria was a mistake, that it was bad for the United States of America and good for the Syrians.” [Link]
Chief Deputy Minority Whip Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
“The Speaker and many of her Democratic allies have become so drunk with grandiose visions of deposing Bush that they break bread with terrorists and enemies of the United States.” [Link]
This week, American Enterprise Institute fellow Norm Ornstein said of the attacks, “I have yet to see anything with Pelosi that is even semi-tangible evidence of transgression.” Brookings Institution scholar Thomas Mann added that Pelosi’s progressive leadership has proven to be “more effective and popular” than conservatives expected, so it’s “no surprise that she has become a target of attacks and unsubstantiated rumors.”
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Karl… Your slip is showing!
May 14th, 2007 at 2:24 pmPelosi might be doing OK herself, but the Dimocratic Congress as a whole isn’t.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/383095,CST-NWS-poll13.article
In an AP-Ipsos poll, a scant 35 percent of people said they approve of the overall job Bush is doing — the same amount who rated Congress positively.
Who are these moonbat 35%ers who approve of the do nothing Congress?
May 14th, 2007 at 2:26 pmIs this a repost of a story from 2 weeks ago? Why the filler?
May 14th, 2007 at 2:26 pmBut, but, but…. now everyone is seeing the Syrian president and –gasp– even talking to the Iranians. When will this madness stop?
Uh, probably not until peace breaks out. We can hope.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pmm12, what a silly thing to say! You can turn this Congress into a do nothing Congress just by saying so. It’s actually going to turn out to be one of the most busy Congresses in history. Aren’t you in the least worried your bleating doom and gloom will marginalize your beloved GOP? It’s going the way of the Whig party, you know. Better grab some souvenirs before the final bankruptcy sale.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:31 pmWOW!!
It’s almost as if Americans want diplomacy over unending war. Wierd huh?
May 14th, 2007 at 2:34 pmBut yet the American public lets this happen. We continue to elect leaders with personal goals and not ones with public goals.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:38 pmIts easy………….elected officials should put there goals in writting before the general election. If elected based on these goals, then they should be paid based on the number of goals reached.
Complete 75% of your goals, get 75% of you pay!!! In the case of some major event not on their goals list, well so be it, anyone in that position would have to deal with it, it comes with the job!!!!
#4 ~ what you said.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:38 pmPelosi is doing a better job than Hastert did, but I wish she could reign in the Blue Dog Dems.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:38 pm#5
I guess they’re busy blocking Bush’s appointments, because they haven’t passed a single bit of legislation into law.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:39 pmRight, this islamist apologist is loved..LOL
May 14th, 2007 at 2:40 pmJust the very fact that this Congress is not rubber-stamping everything Bush wants is progress. When they actually pass something, that’s a bonus. Speaker Pelosi is representing me well, and my Congressman, Lloyd Doggett, represents me very well.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:44 pmThis system has to admit that it’s in awe of Pelosi’s leadership thus far. It’s been far, far more effective than Hastert’s. CompTROLLER V-1 can’t imagine Pelosi stepping down/losing the speakership in 2008, or anytime before 2010.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:46 pmm12,
1) nice job posting to some random paper. although Congress’s approval ratings have been low, as has been oft pointed out, this is higher than the Republican Congress, and much of the disapproval comes from Democrats who think Congress hasn’t been progressive enough.
2) nice job of typical GOP word twisting. Having “passed a single bit of legislation into law” is of course different than having “passed a single bit of legislation”. The primary reason its legislation hasn’t become law, of course, is President “hey I found the veto pen” Douchebag and the obstructionist Republicans in Congress, who’ve suddenly changed their tunes. This Congress is, of course, by any measure more active then the previous.
Go back to Nazi Germany, el douchebag. Maybe you can rewrite history there too, and blame the German defeat on the liberals and the media and the professors, or claim there was no defeat of the Fatherland.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:47 pmI like the quote from Lieberman, “I don’t want to be partisan”, because he is being a little more honest about being a Republican. But as the quote illustrates he still can’t be honest about wanting to be partisan.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:50 pmIs a 45% approval rating something to be proud of?
May 14th, 2007 at 2:50 pmQ: How do you make a pack of GOP trolls hyperventilate?
A: Remind ‘em that Nancy Pelosi is a strong, smart woman who is not afraid to call Their Fearless Leader a willfully ignorant, reflexively belligerent f*ck-up.
Did any other President lose two wars? I’m just askin’.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:51 pmCondi chatted with Syria a couple weeks later, and now it looks like we’re going to talk to Iran… hypocrisy knows no bound…
May 14th, 2007 at 2:53 pmChris Jennings: “Is a 45% approval rating something to be proud of?”
Compared to what, Chris? Compared to what? I believe Hastert was sitting there at 27%. And, imagine what Nancy’s approval rating would be if there wasn’t a couple of news networks trying to make her out as a creep.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:54 pmRepublicans hate women if they are not serving their Biblical function of being baby machines, housemakers and objects to use for male sexual gratification.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:56 pmIs a 45% approval rating something to be proud of?
Comment by Chris Jennings
You should hear the wingnuts crow every time der leader’s polls jump from 35% to 38%.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:56 pmYet another prediction by the Right Wing that proves to be patently wrong. DO ANY CONSERVATIVE IDEAS ACTUALLY WORK?
May 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pmCompared to what, Chris? Compared to what? I believe Hastert was sitting there at 27%. And, imagine what Nancy’s approval rating would be if there wasn’t a couple of news networks trying to make her out as a creep.
Comment by Bluedog49
Since Bush’s ratings are so low and she has been battling him I would think that she would have a higher approval rating. Is that the bar now? Less than half of the American people approve of the job you are doing and it’s a good thing?
May 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pmSpeaker Pelosi is doing a terrific job — telling it like it is and telling Bush to go stick it. I love her facial expression as she was sitting next to Bush at the White House — you could tell that she wasn’t buying anything he said.
May 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pmWay to go … Nancy.
Just watched on TV , Bush fears 3 missing troops being tortured
theres one way to hurt his popularity ratings then
May 14th, 2007 at 3:00 pmYou should hear the wingnuts crow every time der leader’s polls jump from 35% to 38%.
Comment by barfly
That is pretty sad.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:00 pmRepublicans and their lickspittles at the Washington Post and elsewhere simply do not get it. They are all trapped in the same Washington echo chamber that Bubble Boy is living in. I wonder how these losers are going to cope with the repudiation sure to be delivered by the 2008 elections. I can imagine their breathless surprise at the sea change in public opinion they are years behind recognizing.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:03 pmSpeaking of lickspittles, I see that Patrick-the-dumbest-troll-in-all-creation is back after a well-earned weekend off.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:05 pmThat is pretty sad.
Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Did you have to look in the mirror, or down your pants to say that with emotion?
May 14th, 2007 at 3:06 pmSince Bush’s ratings are so low and she has been battling him I would think that she would have a higher approval rating. Is that the bar now? Less than half of the American people approve of the job you are doing and it’s a good thing? Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
More people approve of her, than disapprove, the exact opposite of Bush. Sounds like you’re a little confused *child*, as to what *approval* means. Bad parenting – the source of Republican values…
May 14th, 2007 at 3:07 pmDid you have to look in the mirror, or down your pants to say that with emotion?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
What are you talking about? Where did that come from?
May 14th, 2007 at 3:09 pmEver since the ridiculous attempts at smearing Nancy, she’s virtually vanished from the public landscape. I believe that most americans think that Pelosi’s great but she must not allow herself to intimidated by the threat of hate-filled innuendos from the reichwing. Pelosi is an intelligent, emasculating woman who has more balls than all of the men in the Republican party combined.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:09 pmDid you have to look in the mirror, or down your pants to say that with emotion?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Ill go with the latter. Having small p*nis = Drving big car. Having small p*nis = warmonger.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pmWhen was the last time any of the people you quoted in this post were right about anything?
May 14th, 2007 at 3:11 pmMore people approve of her, than disapprove, the exact opposite of Bush. Sounds like you’re a little confused *child*, as to what *approval* means. Bad parenting – the source of Republican values…
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
I’m not a republican, but a registered democrat. My point is that her approval is less than 50%. meaning there are undecided or are neutral, but less than half polled said that she is doing a good job. So less than half the people in the country think she is doing a good job.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:11 pmCongressional ratings have been low for years. Also, Pelosi takes a relentless pounding from an organized and extremely well-funded network of propaganda outlets, not to mention the unfair treatment dished out by the cowards that write for the Washington Post-Times. With this as background I’d say Pelosi is doing quite well. But the most important conclusion to draw here is that the right wing noise machine cannot budge her ratings no matter how hard they try to smear her. This is a bad sign for Karl and the gang.
I hope you enjoy prison, Karl, because I think you’re going to be there for a long, long time.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:13 pmIs a 45% approval rating something to be proud of?
Why don’t you ask the President of the United States about that?
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May 14th, 2007 at 3:17 pmHey where is Uncle Ho and Willy ? I decided to join their suck littleboy dick group,it’s not too late to join is it?
May 14th, 2007 at 3:17 pmI’m not a republican, but a registered democrat. My point is that her approval is less than 50%. Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
You don’t sound like one. Her approval rating is such that more people approve of her, than disapprove of her.
meaning there are undecided or are neutral, but less than half polled said that she is doing a good job. Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Actually just over 40% think she’s not doing a good job. The rest don’t really have a strong opinion. That’s not uncommon for a Speaker of the House.
So less than half the people in the country think she is doing a good job. Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Once again, you sound like a troll, and quickly miss the point. If you’re a democrat – you don’t sound like one. You sound st*pid.
More people approve of her, than disapprove of her, and some percentage don’t really have an opinion one way or the other. That happens.
So, your *spin* – is just that, republican spin…
May 14th, 2007 at 3:18 pmWhat are you talking about? Where did that come from?
Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
The same place your *spin* came from. The Republican self loathing, spin chambers.
More people approve of her job, than don’t approve. Period. Despite all of the negative campaigning by the Press and the Republican Spin Machine (of which your post seems a part of) – she’s still more popular than unpopular. Catch up, child.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:20 pmThey are dumb fu*ks like you who can’t tell that there is a new Congress in town and it is making great in roads into fixing the corruption of the 109th Congress.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:30 pmChief Deputy Minority Whip – what is that? Second from last? Too many qualifiers spoil the title.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:32 pmHey, more freedom of Speech for the troops today:
US forces to block YouTube, MySpace on DoD network
And this and no other reason is why the US doesn’t want to give up its strangle hold on the Internets primary DNS servers. So that they can control the flow of information in and out of America.
Just like communist China.
Way to go conservatives. Keep up the good work destroying everything that makes America great.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:39 pmThank you TP!!!! FINALLY a news blurb about what a GREAT job the Speakette is doing!! I no longer refer to you as “Think Progress” – your new moniker is “Think Whiner”. Please let everyone KNOW how MUCH the Dems have done for the American peple since capturing the Congress – People NEED to know…..
[sarcasm off]
May 14th, 2007 at 3:40 pmSpngey – “Just like Communist China.” No, Sponge….just like some employers block sites…..Or – if it’s easier, think of blocking transmission of Tokyo Rose……I mean, Harry…
Happy Monday!!
May 14th, 2007 at 3:44 pmI’m not a republican, but a registered democrat. My point is that her approval is less than 50%. meaning there are undecided or are neutral, but less than half polled said that she is doing a good job. So less than half the people in the country think she is doing a good job.
Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Thats not true. If 45% think she is doing a good job and 42% think she isn’t, then 50+ of the respondants who are not brain dead think she is doing a good job.
Your mistake come in thinking that ALL others other than the 45% disagree with her. The truth is, some people still don’t know who she is or just don’t pay attention. These few idiots have a reply of “no opinion” or something like that. But don’t assume that those brain dead idiots approve or don’t approve. They just don’ t think period!
Besides, isn’t this the highest rating a Speaker of the House has had in 20+ years?
May 14th, 2007 at 3:44 pmThat’s okay mighty aphrodite. We stopped calling you dirty whore and now call you skanky whore.
[no sracasm]
May 14th, 2007 at 3:45 pmNo mighty aphrodite, it is a shot at freedom of speech and the fact that you can’t figure it out is par for the course when it comes to dealing with brown shirt Nazis like you.
Happy go fu*k yourself.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:47 pmm12 and Chris,
We have moved on past all the cheap shots you junior trolls continue to use. Pelosi forced diplomacy with Syria and Iran. If she hadn’t of gone we’d still be waiting for Uncle Dick to allow the State department to talk with someone, anyone. Nancy forced the issue, like Murtha, that’s what patriots do.
You think this congress is slow because we don’t have the weekly run-up of gay bashing bills, flag burning bills, anti-abortion bills, prayer in school bills, anti-stem cell bills, and the collection of other meaningless BS that the last republican congress wasted their time and our money trying to force down our liberal throats.
PS, after der leader is finished with your party, they’ll be about 3 republicans left in DC after the 2008 election.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pmPlease let everyone KNOW how MUCH the Dems have done for the American peple since capturing the Congress – People NEED to know…..
Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
The Dems have done a great service for the American people. They basicaly have cut off George Bush’s balls. Emasculated him if I may say. GWB is now a eunich.
I think you meant to say, “They just haven’t done a great service for the Republicans.” And you would be right! Go Dem Congress!!!
May 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pmIf you owned the media, wouldn’t they give you praise?
The left doesn’t own the media, so they quote verbatim whatever the propaganda office tells them to say.
You know things like Pelosi works with the terrorists, when she had republicans go before her and after.
It is all in what Karl Rove tells them to say.
But, the fact that 45% of the public can now see through the bullsh!t the Nazis want you to think, is a great thing.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm#40
They are dumb fu*ks like you who can’t tell that there is a new Congress in town and it is making great in roads into fixing the corruption of the 109th Congress.
Great inroads? HAhahaha!
House Democrats are backing off their lobbying reform, continuing to do nothing.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3165636
May 14th, 2007 at 3:52 pmWhen the persons knowing enough to state an opinion, 36.5% approved of W’s perfoformanc and 51.7% approved of Nancy’s. On the disaproval side – it was 63.5% towards W and 48.3% towards Nancy. Net is, that any Democrat (except Liebermann) running for President could defeat any Republican by a wide margin.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:53 pm#46 David B
Well said.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:54 pmHa ha ha h aha h aha
You’re a dumb fu*k.
May 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pmI love Nancy Pelosi.
The impeachment needs to get back on the table, though.
See ya later, all!
May 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm#52
Yup, one of the moonbat 35%ers approving of this Congress.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:01 pmWhen Bush was at a 45% approval rating the left wingers were going crazy and claiming how unpopular he was at 45%.
so…..I take it that Pelosi is as unpopular at 45% as Bush was at 45%, right? or does this only count for Bush?
and let us not even talk about the Democratic Party led Congress, 33%.
Not exactly numbers that EITHER party can be proud of.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:02 pmAlso, Republicans hate women a lot more than most people do.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:04 pmWOW!!
It’s almost as if Americans want diplomacy over unending war. Wierd huh?
Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 14, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Crump,
45% of Americans IS NOT the majority of Ameircans…
who are these 45% left wing nuts that still hold on to crazy Pelosi?
and who are the 35% left wing nuts that approve of the Democratic led Congress?
May 14th, 2007 at 4:04 pm45% approval rating is not exactly a number to be proud of, especially after being re-elected.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:05 pmvaliantthehater,
I’ll rephrase.
It appears as though those who supported her before the trip, were not put off by the trip, despite right wing smearing for said trip.
Happy?
May 14th, 2007 at 4:09 pmI’m not a republican, but a registered democrat. My point is that her approval is less than 50%. Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
You don’t sound like one. Her approval rating is such that more people approve of her, than disapprove of her.
meaning there are undecided or are neutral, but less than half polled said that she is doing a good job. Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Actually just over 40% think she’s not doing a good job. The rest don’t really have a strong opinion. That’s not uncommon for a Speaker of the House.
So less than half the people in the country think she is doing a good job. Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Once again, you sound like a troll, and quickly miss the point. If you’re a democrat – you don’t sound like one. You sound st*pid.
More people approve of her, than disapprove of her, and some percentage don’t really have an opinion one way or the other. That happens.
So, your *spin* – is just that, republican spin…
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
You are clearly somebody that cannot have a civilized discussion, even from somebody on the same political side as you. There really isn’t any spin to be had here, numbers don’t lie in this case. 45% approve, that does not mean that 55% disapprove. I just don’t think getting all excited about 45% is something to hang our hats on.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:11 pmI’d rather be a moonbat like me than a dumb fu*k like you.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm45% Approve
42% Disapprove
12% Duh
A Majority of American approve. I don’t know where the fuck you learned math, but they taught you wrong.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:13 pmvaliantthehater,
I’ll rephrase.
It appears as though those who supported her before the trip, were not put off by the trip, despite right wing smearing for said trip.
Happy?
Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 14, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
right wing smearing campaign? stop with the conspiracy theories. You sound like Hellary Clinton.
Regardless of what people or don’t think, it was stupid for Pelosi to go to Syria. Justify her trip any way you want, it just gave credence to a terrorist “government” in Syria.
As for her approval rating, they are as terrible as Bush’s.
Over all, Americans are very disatisfied with ALL politicians. Not good for either party.
45% approval rating is nothing to write home about and nothing to be be proud of.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pmThank you TP!!!! FINALLY a news blurb about what a GREAT job the Speakette is doing!! Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
On a day where the discussion runs about how Women and Minorities aren’t portrayed in the Sunday talk circuit – here you are posting the “Speakette” waco sh*t again. You intentionally use a term that you think is *offensive* and *demeaning* to women – while you yourself claim to be a professional woman (who can’t spell and has the grammar and linguistics of a 12 year old boy).
I no longer refer to you as “Think Progress†– your new moniker is “Think Whinerâ€. Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
That’s only because you come here and whine – st*pid c*nt.
Please let everyone KNOW how MUCH the Dems have done for the American peple since capturing the Congress – People NEED to know….. [sarcasm off] Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
What they’ve done, or what the Republican obstructionists and Bush have prevented them from doing?
There’s a reason you wingnuts have lower approval ratings. America as a whole thinks worse of you than you can imagine. But with st*pid c*nts like you and Ann Coulter representing Republicans, how could they think you’re anything but a bunch of whining hypocrites?
May 14th, 2007 at 4:19 pm45% approval rating is nothing to write home about and nothing to be be proud of. Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Considering it’s almost twice what Hastert’s approval rating was, and 3 times what Cheney’s is – yep, that’s an accomplishment! Considering how jaded the American public has become under the failed republican leadership of the last few years, a 45% approval rating is astounding for the first woman speaker!
Why must you and the other valiant always be so complaining and whiny anyway?
May 14th, 2007 at 4:21 pm“I take it that Pelosi is as unpopular at 45% as Bush was at 45%, right? or does this only count for Bush?”
considering the different levels of name recognition between the two of them, and the fact that bush was at 85% in 10/01 and has been steadily declining for 5 1/2 years, it’s not quite the same.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:22 pmThat is YOUR opinion dill weed. It is not fact or this is fact.
“Regardless of what you people think or don’t think, it was smart for Pelosi to go to Syria.” (mine is more grammatically correct, but that is it, nothing more)
Do you have a problem comprehending what is your opinion and what is fact?
May 14th, 2007 at 4:22 pmOver all, Americans are very disatisfied with ALL politicians. Not good for either party. Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Pure lies and projection. More people are satisfied with Pelosi than are dissatisfied – so that’s a flat out lie. How st*pid are you anyway – child?
Now considering that the public is dissatisfied with republican politicians – it’s easy why you’d want to lump all politicians together to avoid facing reality and the specific failures of the Conservative movement. How, sad and pathetic your weak grasp of reality is…
May 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pmWhat they’ve done, or what the Republican obstructionists and Bush have prevented them from doing?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 14, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
typical liberal wing nut who says, “Let’s blame everyone else except ourselves for doing a terrible job.”
kid, child, sorry, your do nothing Democratic Control Congress has done NOTHING for the american people. I am sorry that you are too stupid to face the facts.
This Congress has done shit for the American people.
and if you are going to talk about obstruction, make sure you look into how Democrats have been an obstructionist party for the past 12 years.
Being an obstructionist party is the job of the party that is not in power. It has happened since Congress first convened back in the 18th century.
education would do you well kid. You wouldn’t sound so stupid.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pmMention Pelosi and all the trolls are released from their cages. Frankly it doesn’t matter what Republicans or trolls think of her, it only matters what the voters in her district think.
And then it matters what the other Democrat House members think of her which must be pretty favorable.
I’m sure her rating would be much higher if she was working on the impeachment of Bush and Cheney, although that would probably just be wasting time.
But whine away little trolls, see if anybody cares.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pmMention Pelosi and all the trolls are released from their cages. Frankly it doesn’t matter what Republicans or trolls think of her, it only matters what the voters in her district think.
And then it matters what the other Democrat House members think of her which must be pretty favorable.
I’m sure her rating would be much higher if she was working on the impeachment of Bush and Cheney, although that would probably just be wasting time.
But whine away little trolls, see if anybody cares.
Comment by Shane — May 14, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
actually, WRONG!!!! Pelosi’s ratings would be further on the dump if she was impeaching anyone.
Shane, moonbats like you are NOT the majority of American people. Let us bow our heads and thank God for this. hahahahahaha!!!!!!
oh no, I said God in a Liberal website….the LIberals are melting, melting…ahhhhhhhhh!!! someone help them. hahahahahaha!!!!!
May 14th, 2007 at 4:27 pmConsidering it’s almost twice what Hastert’s approval rating was, and 3 times what Cheney’s is – yep, that’s an accomplishment! Considering how jaded the American public has become under the failed republican leadership of the last few years, a 45% approval rating is astounding for the first woman speaker!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Because of the massive failures of the republicans is the reason it should be higher. She was the speaker for the house of change, I find it very frustrating that her numbers are so low when the republicans set the bar so low. Progressives should be outraged by 45%, not dancing in the streets.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:28 pm“This Congress has done shit for the American people.”
while the previous congress did wonders like landing bob ney and ‘duke’ cunningham in jail.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:28 pmNo, no one cares what the trolls think. A complete waste of skin, all of them.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:30 pmKarl, this is a failing project. Better save the money you’re spending on their paychecks for your legal defense fund, you’ll need it.
“This Congress has done shit for the American people.â€
while the previous congress did wonders like landing bob ney and ‘duke’ cunningham in jail.
Comment by pgw — May 14, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
no one is talking about the past Congress. Live in the here are NOW!
the past Congress paid the price for doing shit for the American people.
Today, the Democratic Party led Congress has done shit for the American people.
stop obssesing with the past.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:31 pmDude, stupid is you calling somebody a kid that you don’t know, can’t see and don’t know anything about.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:34 pmJesus was a liberal dumb fu*k.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:35 pm“no one is talking about the past Congress. Live in the here are NOW!”
i’ll pass that awesome message along to reps. renzi and doolittle.
p.s.–how does one ‘live in the here are now’?
May 14th, 2007 at 4:36 pmSays the troll who brings up Clinton every other thread. Dip sh!t.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:36 pmBecause of the massive failures of the republicans is the reason it should be higher. She was the speaker for the house of change, I find it very frustrating that her numbers are so low when the republicans set the bar so low. Progressives should be outraged by 45%, not dancing in the streets.
Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
couldn’t agree more Chirs. If it was true all the crap that left wing sites like thinkprogress.org spew, you would think that Pelosi’s approval ratings would be sky rocketing. The fact that this is not happening says a lot about how Americans feel.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:36 pmSays the dumb a$$ troll who loves to use Clinton as an excuse for every law Bush breaks.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:37 pmNo, no one cares what the trolls think. A complete waste of skin, all of them.
Karl, this is a failing project. Better save the money you’re spending on their paychecks for your legal defense fund, you’ll need it.
Comment by SKdeA — May 14, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
well, at least you keep a sense of humor. hahaha!!
BOO!! Karl Rove is reading your mind!! careful, run, hide, fast, fast…..Rove is after you! and your family too. hahahahaha!!!!
May 14th, 2007 at 4:37 pmWell if it was true all of the things the MSM, Fox News, Lush Rimjob and O’Lielly says Bush, his approval rating would be through the roof.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:38 pm“Live in the here are NOW!” & “stop obssesing with the past.”
Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
That’s hilarious valiantthemoron, coming from a fool who consistently screams ‘but, but, but….Clinton!’. You boneheads are always good for a laugh.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:39 pm“Live in the here are NOW!†& “stop obssesing with the past.â€
Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
That’s hilarious valiantthemoron, coming from a fool who consistently screams ‘but, but, but….Clinton!’. You boneheads are always good for a laugh.
Comment by Quadrajet — May 14, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
wait, wait, so it is not ok for anyone to bring up Clinton, but you retards can bring up anything from the past?
hahahaha!!! caught in your hypocrisy. So easy to get the LIberals to show their true face. Hypocrites.
retard, you are probably too young to remember when Clintonistas excused themselves or pundits defended themselves by always pointing to Reagan and other past Republican Presidents.
so, retard, what is good for the gander, is good for the goose.
If you guys can point to the past, so can we.
now move along, you are quite boring child and the typical Liberal hypocrite.
such simple minds that rule the Democratic Party.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:43 pmCongratulations Dems!! More allies support your efforts in Iraq than you modestly let on!!
“Mohamad al-Janabi, a reputed al-Qaeda member in the nearby city of Salman Pak, said in a interview that he was unable to contact his comrades in Mahmudiyah to determine whether they were responsible for the attack.
But he added: “I can assure you that we will start pressuring Bush in a new way at the same time he is facing pressures from the Democrats and the American people. And there will be no problem to sacrifice 10 soldiers in order to abduct a single American soldier and get him on television screens begging for us to release him.”
“Appeasement Dems” have been telling us for YEARS that our military presence in Iraq HELPS AlQaeda and in order to thwart our enemy we MUST surrender….I mean, “re-ploy”. But let me assure Progs, your effort to be loved and admired by humanity’s most twisted “people” appears to be paying off. This little blurb should remind patriotic Americans that placing National Security in the hands of Democrats is fool-hardy at best and LETHAL at worst……
May 14th, 2007 at 4:48 pmThe joke of this whole discussion is that it really doesn’t matter what Pelosi’s approval rating is in a national poll. What matters is which candidate will get the most votes in each district. Approval or disapproval of a House Speaker has very little effect on district-level voting. The trolls here are clinging on to a false hope that villianizing Pelosi and Reid will somehow save the GOP. Fools.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by valiant venus
You’re pathetic. We told you NOT to invade, moron. But you neos had to have your little “experiment in democracy.” Live with the consequences of your past mistakes, and quit blaming others for your lack of foresight.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:55 pmBut let me assure Progs, your effort to be loved and admired by humanity’s most twisted “people†appears to be paying off.
These were the same folks you republicans armed when it suited your political purposes. Get off your high horse — he’s done gone lame.
May 14th, 2007 at 4:58 pmYet another easily-debunked lil’ trooper walks into a battle of wits unarmed, as usual
And doesn’t it just suck for you that none of your overwrought histrionics will do ANYTHING to rally the US public around the clearly incompetent idiot masquerading as “A War President” and Commander in Chief?
Come to think of it, none of your obvious BS will rally the public around the Presidential enablers in the GOP or its media whores either
Blather away all you want, whiney, none of it makes any difference whatsoever
But hey, as we’ve seen with the party whining about what a draq on the USS GOP is the dumbass anchor called President Jr, simpering in fear and rewarding incompetence with the taxpayers dollars are two things the GOP is quite accomplished at
So, for those brain-dead GOP backbiters and W apologists, it’s all right to cry, really it is
Especially since the only thing the GOP’s got on their minds these days is the shellacking they’re looking at in November 2008
As if the political Little Big Horn the GOP suffered in November 2006 wasn’t enough of an electoral massacre
Now, I hope the 10th-rate trolls infesting here will share their political brilliance and astound us all with their sure fire success in getting the GOP’s hands around all the levers of power like they had before November 2006, in addition to keeping the White House firmly in GOP control either
Of course, one more botched Federal response before then along the lines of W’s “deer frozen in the headlights” leadership immediately after Katrina probably won’t help GOP matters any, especially since it’s obvious that the feds are even less prepared now to handle a crisis-sudden or with at least a few days warning-than before Sept 11, 2001
But until said trolls can show said political brilliance in regaining the GOP’s pre-November 2006 status, it’s best to either ignore them, or better yet, mock them with justified ridicule and laughter that they’ve truly earned
May 14th, 2007 at 4:58 pmwait, wait, so it is not ok for anyone to bring up Clinton, but you retards can bring up anything from the past?
hahahaha!!! caught in your hypocrisy.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
Hmmmm, still struggling with those necrotic frontal lobes, eh valiant? Aren’t you the one who just said we need to ‘live in the here are now’ (whatever the hell that means, hehehe). So what are you saying in this post? That it’s OK to bring up the past? Are you a flip-flopper too? I’m actually kinda surprised that you can remember Clinton, I mean your short term memory is obviously shot since you just made that comment a few minutes ago. You ought to just go ahead and have the surgery, it couldn’t hurt.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:00 pmNot one person said that you inbred retarded red neckedy republican turd.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:00 pmsuch simple minds that rule the Democratic Party.
Comment by valiantthehater
Who are currently in control. What does it say about republicans incompetence and corruption, that you guys got thoroughly trounced by these “simple minds?”
Ha, ha, ha, ha …
May 14th, 2007 at 5:01 pmCongratulations Dems!! More allies support your efforts in Iraq than you modestly let on!! Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Our efforts to get out of Iraq? That’s true. But then again, the truth as a liberal bias, and your delusions don’t.
“Mohamad al-Janabi, a reputed al-Qaeda member in the nearby city of Salman Pak, said in a interview that he was unable to contact his comrades in Mahmudiyah to determine whether they were responsible for the attack.
But he added: “I can assure you that we will start pressuring Bush in a new way at the same time he is facing pressures from the Democrats and the American people. And there will be no problem to sacrifice 10 soldiers in order to abduct a single American soldier and get him on television screens begging for us to release him.†Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Of course they’re pressuring us – but not to leave, silly girl… They like us being in Iraq, so they can continue to pressure and bleed us.
“Appeasement Dems†have been telling us for YEARS that our military presence in Iraq HELPS AlQaeda and in order to thwart our enemy we MUST surrender….Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Actually that’s what you Anti-American wingnuts have been saying. But you’re delusional, dishonest and prone to baseless smears.
Our *enemy* has already been shown to *want* us in Iraq, so they can continue to attack us. But st*pid c*nts like you, delusionally ignore that you’ve fallen into their trap.
I mean, “re-ployâ€. Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
You mean don’t support the agenda of Al Qaeda! Well you wingnut traitors have been doing exactly what Osama wants since the Russian Afghan war – maybe that’s why you traitors won’t go capture your *friend*?
But let me assure Progs, your effort to be loved and admired by humanity’s most twisted “people†appears to be paying off. Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Pure projection from the wingnuts that are *loved* and *admired* for their stupidity by Al Qaeda.
This little blurb should remind patriotic Americans that placing National Security in the hands of Democrats is fool-hardy at best and LETHAL at worst…… Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
This little blurb should remind patriotic Americans that placing National Security in the hands of the Nationalistic Republican traitors and fools is fool-hardy at best and LETHAL at worst…..
st*pid c*nt.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:02 pmvaliantthehater,
“If it was true all the crap that left wing sites like thinkprogress.org spew, you would think that Pelosi’s approval ratings would be sky rocketing. The fact that this is not happening says a lot about how Americans feel.”
If it was true all the crap that right wing sites like the drudgereport spew, you would think that Bush’s approval ratings would be sky rocketing. The fact that this is not happening says a lot about how Americans feel.
That was easy
May 14th, 2007 at 5:05 pmsuch simple minds that rule the Democratic Party.
Comment by valiantthehater
Who are currently in control. What does it say about republicans incompetence and corruption, that you guys got thoroughly trounced by these “simple minds?â€
Ha, ha, ha, ha …
Comment by barfly — May 14, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
thoroughly trounced? hmmm…..sorry child, most of the Democrats that won in Congress won by 1 or 2 percents.
not to mention that it is the first victory for Democratic politicians in Congress in how many years? 12 years.
don’t forget that he who you call a chimp won two elections against supposed smarter Democratic politicians.
don’t also forget that what happened in 2006 was suppose to happen, very few Presidents in power have been able to keep their party in power in Congress. In fact, Republicans winning in 2002 was actually not suppose to happen, but it did.
your post shows how stupid and ignorant most simple minded Democratic voters are.
I pity you kid, I truly do.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:07 pmChris, 45% is approximately equal to the number of people who identify themselves as Democrats (a number that is way up recently, by the way). So for all you know Pelosi could have the approval of the entire party. To get to 45% she must have the approval of a large majority of Democrats and a decent chunk of independents, too. That is unless you think a lot of Republican approve of her. Fact is, it’s a very good number for a House Speaker.
Do you think Pelosi should try harder to appeal to Republicans to boost her approval rating? BWAA HAA HA HA HA HA!
May 14th, 2007 at 5:08 pmI thought I’d recommend some reading material. It’s an oldie but I goody:
Pelosi might be doing OK herself, but the Dimocratic Congress as a whole isn’t.
http://www.suntimes.com/ news/ politics/ 383095,CST-NWS-poll13.article
In an AP-Ipsos poll, a scant 35 percent of people said they approve of the overall job Bush is doing — the same amount who rated Congress positively.
Who are these moonbat 35%ers who approve of the do nothing Congress?
Comment by m12 — May 14, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
May 14th, 2007 at 5:09 pmOh No, Not Agana!
Who says the Democratic Congress isn’t getting anything done? By a vote of 288-133, the House last week approved the Guam World War II Loyalty Recognition Act, described by Congress.org as follows:
Recognizes the suffering and the loyalty of the people of Guam during the Japanese occupation of Guam in World War II.
Directs the Secretary of the Treasury to make specified payments to: (1) living Guam residents who were killed, injured, interned, or subjected to forced labor or marches resulting from, or incident to, such occupation and subsequent liberation; and (2) survivors of compensable residents who died in war or survivors of compensable injured residents (such payments to be made after payments have been made to surviving Guam residents). Defines “compensable Guam decedent” and “compensable Guam victim.”
In fairness, the bill, whose text you can read by clicking here and going to the fourth version listed, doesn’t actually refer to “living Guam residents who were killed.” Still, isn’t there something screwy about the idea that the U.S. taxpayer should be paying reparations for atrocities committed by the enemy more than six decades ago? No wonder we can’t afford the war in Iraq.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:12 pmDimwit trolls don’t want to understand that overall approval ratings for Congress are not very important. Dimwit trolls don’t understand context. Dimwit trolls don’t see it coming, and will be blindsided when it does.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:14 pmWho are currently in control. What does it say about republicans incompetence and corruption, that you guys got thoroughly trounced by these “simple minds?â€
What does their loss to *insert insult here* say about Al Gore and John Kerry?
May 14th, 2007 at 5:14 pm#98 cut and paste alert, Patrick couldn’t write this himself
by the way, what’s your point, troll?
wait, on second thought don’t answer
May 14th, 2007 at 5:16 pmChris, 45% is approximately equal to the number of people who identify themselves as Democrats (a number that is way up recently, by the way). So for all you know Pelosi could have the approval of the entire party. To get to 45% she must have the approval of a large majority of Democrats and a decent chunk of independents, too. That is unless you think a lot of Republican approve of her. Fact is, it’s a very good number for a House Speaker.
Do you think Pelosi should try harder to appeal to Republicans to boost her approval rating? BWAA HAA HA HA HA HA!
Comment by VerbalKint
I just think that since Bush’s rating is so low, democrats seem to have lost a lot of the momentum that got them elected. 45% is not good enough, 35% for congress is not good enough.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:16 pmNancy Pelosi and the 110th congress have the highest rating of any congress since the 80’s. Usually congressional favor hovers around 20-30%. Anything higher is an anomaly. To see congressional favor at 31% is quite high and to see the Speaker of the House above 40% is unheard of.
This doesn’t bode well for the opponents of the current congress. This means that the next election should be a massacre in favor of the Democrats, and very possibly the end of the Republican party as we know it. Like the Whigs in the 1850’s, the end is at hand.
The one remaining problem is for Americans to rid the planet of the filth of the Nazi Neocon movement and it’s followers. Just like Hitler’s followers, the neocons will rear their ugly head in the future if not destroyed completely, as they do every 50-60 years. It is time for mankind to rid hunmanity of this scourge once and for all.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:18 pmPlease keep in mind that approval numbers for “congress” are historically worse than for “president.” This is because of a number of factors. One, people don’t know what’s going on in congress. Our media barely mentions legislation moving through congress. Two, people don’t understand what goes on in congress. Students don’t necessarily take Civics classes anymore. I’m an old fart. When I was in highschool, we had to learn how a bill becomes a law. Three, “approval of congress” is a very general concept. I would guess, for example, that almost as many respondents who did not approve of Pelosi are to the left of her as there are to the right. Four, if legislation doesn’t happen, people blame congress and she’s the speaker.
But the bottom line is that Presidents almost always enjoy better approval ratings than congress. In the late 90’s, for example, Clinton’s averages were in the mid 60’s while the Repub congress was in the low 30’s. This Bush is off the scale. He’s historically low.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:26 pmNancy Pelosi and the 110th congress have the highest rating of any congress since the 80’s. Usually congressional favor hovers around 20-30%. Anything higher is an anomaly. To see congressional favor at 31% is quite high and to see the Speaker of the House above 40% is unheard of.
This doesn’t bode well for the opponents of the current congress. This means that the next election should be a massacre in favor of the Democrats, and very possibly the end of the Republican party as we know it. Like the Whigs in the 1850’s, the end is at hand.
Comment by factnet
I hope you are right, but I can’t find any data on this. Do you have a link?
May 14th, 2007 at 5:26 pmNancy Pelosi and the 110th congress have the highest rating of any congress since the 80’s. Usually congressional favor hovers around 20-30%. Anything higher is an anomaly. To see congressional favor at 31% is quite high and to see the Speaker of the House above 40% is unheard of.
Comment by factnet — May 14, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
what complete and utter bull shit!
The last Congress approval rating dipped below 30% the last few months before the election. Before that the approval rating of Congress was in the 30s, yet Democratic Party pundits and politicians were pointing to the 30% approval ratings of Republican led Congress to show how Americans completly disapproved of that Congress.
incredible the level of hypocrisy from the left when the tables are turned on them.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:30 pmI don’t have a link, but The Hill reported in the last month that analysts were predicting a pickup for the Dems of between 9 and 15 more seats. In the Senate, 21 Repubs are up for reelect against only 9 Dems. So, the numbers favor Dems so far.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:31 pmOf course her reputation is the same. No expected any different from a whiny old liberal witch
May 14th, 2007 at 5:32 pmBut the bottom line is that Presidents almost always enjoy better approval ratings than congress. In the late 90’s, for example, Clinton’s averages were in the mid 60’s while the Repub congress was in the low 30’s. This Bush is off the scale. He’s historically low.
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 14, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Yes, very true, Bush’s approval ratings are historically low, but there are other Presidents that had lower approval ratings than he has right now.
As for the Congress thing, please, when Republicans had 30%+ approval ratings in Congress, Democratic pundits and politicians pointed to this 30%+ approval rating to show what a poor job Republicans were doing and how the American people disagreed with it.
you can try to soften the blow against the current Congress, the fact is that it is at a pathetic approval rating. Justify it, rationalize it however you want, the fact remains that this Democratic led Congress is not anymore popular than the previous Republican led Congress.
and if we take into account everything that Democratic politicians said abouta Republican led Congress with a 30% approval rating, this Congress is doing as bad, according to these Democratic politicians, as the previous Congress.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:33 pmLooking back at Sept 2006…….
If “the political climate remains as it is today — a very big ‘if’ — Republicans will likely lose the House and their dominance of the nation’s governorships, but hang on to the Senate by a thread,” veteran analyst Charlie Cook said last week in his National Journal report.
Analyst Stuart Rothenberg predicted that Democrats would gain between 15 and 20 additional House seats, “which would translate to between 218 and 223 seats — and a majority — in the next House.”
Click here
May 14th, 2007 at 5:36 pmI just think that since Bush’s rating is so low, democrats seem to have lost a lot of the momentum that got them elected.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:37 pmComment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
“These were the same folks you republicans armed when it suited your political purposes. Get off your high horse — he’s done gone lame.”
Comment by barfly
Dear Barfly – When the mujuhadeen were battling your friends, the Soviets, a little band named AlQaeda was moving to the forefront of Islamic terrorism, due in large part to the funding of Osama binLadin.
You continuously blur the lines……(put your beer down) during Afghanistans fight with the Sovbiets, we backed the Afghans AGAINST the sworn enemy. When Iran and Iraq were battling for many long years, we backed Saddam as we hated the Ayatollahs, but in reality. we backed both. Neither is our friend, and keeping the rabid dogs in their own yard was a benefit…….
Well you should congratulate yourself…..a policy position backed by AlQaeda is no small achievement…..Good work!!
Toooodles……..
May 14th, 2007 at 5:37 pmI just think that since Bush’s rating is so low, democrats seem to have lost a lot of the momentum that got them elected.
Comment by Chris Jennings — May 14, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
Buck up, Chris. The Republican party is on auto-destruct and heading into the abyss. They will reach the event horizon by September when it is clear that the surge has failed. Sit back and enjoy the show.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:38 pmOK, Hater, that’s just not true. All you have to do is go to Pollingreport.com and click on Congress, and then general summaries. You will find that the repub congress had consistent poll results in the 20’s all throughout 2006. And, before that, low 30’s with a few high 30’s and one or two low 40’s here and there.
You will also find that our current Dem congress gets consistently higher ratings than the repub congress before it.
And, Mr. President, is that what passes as an argument around your house? Pathetic.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pmDimwit trolls don’t want to understand that overall approval ratings for Congress are not very important. Dimwit trolls don’t understand context. Dimwit trolls don’t see it coming, and will be blindsided when it does.
Comment by VerbalKint — May 14, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
Really? so why is that Democratic Politicians, the left wing media and liberal pundits drilled in the american people day in and day out, that the 30%+ approval ratings of the Republican led Congress mattered so much?
thanks for calling Democratic pundits and politicians what they are….dimwits
May 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pmTrying your hardest to real stretch the truth there, valiantthehater? Fortunatly, Americans don’t listen to your nazi spew anymore and can see through your lies. Why don’t you crawl back to where you came from, hades.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pmComment by valiant venus — Comment by valiantthehater
this person is simply bizarre
May 14th, 2007 at 5:40 pm#93 – “Of course they’re pressuring us – but not to leave, silly girl… They like us being in Iraq, so they can continue to pressure and bleed us.”
Actually I just pointed out to you that AlQaeda wants us OUT now…..and being the Prog mouthpiece you are – you tell us the opposite is true. Either you’re misinformed or your a congenital LIAR (don’t worry – one of Hillary’s old friends said the same thing about her, so you’re in fine company). Note to Progs: “Re-deploying” from Somalia was NOT seen as as a WIN for the US.
Tooodles, little tool………..
May 14th, 2007 at 5:42 pmBuck up, Chris. The Republican party is on auto-destruct and heading into the abyss. They will reach the event horizon by September when it is clear that the surge has failed. Sit back and enjoy the show.
Comment by VerbalKint
Hopefully you are right, but it would sleep easier if the numbers were in the 50s.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:42 pmComment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
You are invited to a banquet of crow on November 5, 2008.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:43 pmBush Culture-Of-Death Cultist: “When Iran and Iraq were battling for many long years, we backed Saddam as we hated the Ayatollahs, but in reality. we backed both. Neither is our friend, and keeping the rabid dogs in their own yard was a benefit…….”
Spoken like a true sociopath. Only a person the immortal Kurt Vonnegaut would refer to as a “psycotic personality” could point to something like this as a success followed by a flippant “Toooodles…”
May 14th, 2007 at 5:44 pmTrying your hardest to real stretch the truth there, valiantthehater? Fortunatly, Americans don’t listen to your nazi spew anymore and can see through your lies. Why don’t you crawl back to where you came from, hades.
Comment by paland — May 14, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
Nazi spew? don’t you retards get tired of calling anyone you disagree with a nazi? what simple and stupid minds that Liberals have.
in fact, if you knew anything about history you would know that the tactics used by the left to silence their opponents and those that they disagree with are the same tactics that the Nazis use.
next time you call anyone a nazi, make sure you look in the mirror and say, “bad, bad nazi….” retard.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:46 pm“The Show” would be a lot easier to watch if it weren’t so f*cking bloody. These people can’t be gone soon enough for me.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:47 pmvaliantthehater – another Pr*g just had the originality of calling you a nazi……yawnnnn….Zzzzz….zzzzzz….
Well, this rocket scientist has just confirmed why the Head Start program is so valuable….Thanks!
May 14th, 2007 at 5:49 pmOK, Hater, that’s just not true. All you have to do is go to Pollingreport.com and click on Congress, and then general summaries. You will find that the repub congress had consistent poll results in the 20’s all throughout 2006. And, before that, low 30’s with a few high 30’s and one or two low 40’s here and there.
You will also find that our current Dem congress gets consistently higher ratings than the repub congress before it.
And, Mr. President, is that what passes as an argument around your house? Pathetic.
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 14, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
who is defending President Bush’s low approval ratings? stop make up crap.
So, then you would agree that whether it is 20%s approval ratings or 30%s approval ratins, it is low and bad for the party in control of Congress, right?
As of today, right now, this Congress is in as much trouble as much as the Republidan led Congress of 2006.
stop burying your head in the sand. If you Liberals want your party to stay in power in 2008 you better change something. Denying the facts, like Republicans did in 2006, will only cost you Congress and the Presidency.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:50 pmBluePuP – Thank you for emoting rather than arguing. 8sigh*sigh* You’re MUCH better at playing the emotional roller coaster than arguing facts!! (I can just picture you as an excellent grant-writer (AKA – professional pan-handler) for a left-leaning non-profit program…..sniffle….sniffle. You have a REAL talent for yanking heartstrings….all the while NEVER refuting what I assert.)
…..’til later………….(*sigh*)
May 14th, 2007 at 5:55 pmComment by Bluedog49 — May 14, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
Ya caught me!!
I meant to say: Of course her reputation is the same. NoBODY expected much from a whiny liberal witch like her.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:57 pmHater: “stop burying your head in the sand”
Tell you what. You go over to Pollingreport.com like I suggested and check out the numbers. That’s all I’m sayin’. For what it’s worth, you will find out that people like this Dem congress more than they liked the last Repub congress, that’s all.
May 14th, 2007 at 5:58 pmValiant, I made no attempt to refute what you posted because it was true. What I thought was noteworthy was your personal opinion about that. I’m just saying that your position on that absurd little example of ugly Ronald Reagan foreign policy is illustrative of a certain kind of personality. And, of course, it doesn’t escape me that many members of the Bush Cult-of-Death display that kind of personality. You know, sociopathy.
Just so you know: decent people would not really be proud of the fact that we played both sides of the war against themselves, selling chemical weapons which would horribly kill hundreds of thousands of people on both sides. If you feel proud about such a thing, it’s probably better to keep it to yourself in mixed company.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:03 pmHater: “stop burying your head in the sandâ€
Tell you what. You go over to Pollingreport.com like I suggested and check out the numbers. That’s all I’m sayin’. For what it’s worth, you will find out that people like this Dem congress more than they liked the last Repub congress, that’s all.
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 14, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Well, I think Americans have liked any previous Congress a lot more than the last one. It doesn’t say much when your numbers are a few digits higher than the 2006 Congress numbers.
The Democratic Party is not doing any better than the Republican Party right now.
Just remember, most elections that Democrats won in 2006 were won by 1 or 2 percentage points. Very few if any were a land slide.
I agree that as of right now, Democrats have a small edge, very, very, very small edge.
It will be very interesting to see what happens during election time. It is way, way too soon to call anything either way.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:04 pmBluePuP – Thank you for emoting rather than arguing. Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Pure projection – your entire post was an emotional diatribe – not an *argument*. Then again, you’ve posted repeatedly that you have no intention of *debating* on this site – but instead are here simply to entertain yourself with what you *falsely* believe passes for *humor*, *wit* and *insight*. Instead, it’s really just another whiny diatribe by a sour grapes st*pid and miserable little c*nt.
8sigh*sigh* You’re MUCH better at playing the emotional roller coaster than arguing facts!! Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
That’s all you *child*…. Another emotional roller coaster, screaming about *radicals* gonna come kill you in your sleep. You’re so *borinnggggg* ZZZZzzzzzz…..
(I can just picture you as an excellent grant-writer (AKA – professional pan-handler) for a left-leaning non-profit program…..sniffle….sniffle. You have a REAL talent for yanking heartstrings….all the while NEVER refuting what I assert.) …..’til later………….(*sigh*) Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Dear child, you don’t *assert* anything that merits a real debate. Instead you lie, misrepresent, distort and smear… How sad, that you’re such a st*pid little c*nt – that you can’t see the difference. How badly were you molested as a child?
May 14th, 2007 at 6:12 pmWell, I think Americans have liked any previous Congress a lot more than the last one. It doesn’t say much when your numbers are a few digits higher than the 2006 Congress numbers.
The Democratic Party is not doing any better than the Republican Party right now. Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
If they weren’t doing any better, they wouldn’t have better numbers, you st*pid Jake*ss.
Just remember, most elections that Democrats won in 2006 were won by 1 or 2 percentage points. Very few if any were a land slide. Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
I call b*llsh*t – st*pid liar.
I agree that as of right now, Democrats have a small edge, very, very, very small edge. Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
Yeah, about 2/3rds of Americans agree with the Democratic position on every important issue. They only reason they’re pissed right now is that the Democrats haven’t been as ruthless as you thugs and shoved the policies down your throats. Jake*ss.
It will be very interesting to see what happens during election time. It is way, way too soon to call anything either way. Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
That’s b*llsh*t. The demographic trending is completely away from Republicans. More than 50% of Americans now lean Democratic – whereas only slightly more than 30% lean Republican. You’re f*cked – child, and you’re too dam st*pid to know it.
But keep it up. Jake*sses like you and Valiant the c*nt make sure you’ll lose every major election for the next 3 decades…
May 14th, 2007 at 6:16 pm#112
In early 2005 (a more appropriate comparison to now, being a nonelection year), the GOP Congress had a 37% approval.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-03-14-congress-poll_x.htm
Looks like the Dims are in the same ballpark.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:20 pm“Just remember, most elections that Democrats won in 2006 were won by 1 or 2 percentage points. Very few if any were a land slide.”
Comment by valiantthehater — May 14, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
The turnaround in the House was the biggest since 1933. It was a bigger turnaround than the Repub “revolution” in ‘94. For the first time since ‘33, NO DEMOCRAT LOST. And, if you check the numbers, you will find that you are wrong about this 1 or 2 points stuff. I think you just made that up.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:23 pm#112 In early 2005 (a more appropriate comparison to now, being a nonelection year), the GOP Congress had a 37% approval.
http://www.usatoday.com/ news/ washington/ 2005-03-14-congress-poll_x.htm
Looks like the Dims are in the same ballpark.
Comment by m12 — May 14, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
Considering their approval is higher than the Republican Congress’s what – *historic* lows? You’re a dum bass ignorant fool.
The country is sick of what you f*cking idiot Republicans are doing to the country. It’s why they’re bailing from your party. Why they hated your congress. And why more people approve of Pelosi than disapprove despite your constant *whining* and *smearing* in the media. Your propaganda war is as big of a f*cking failure as you yourself, and the *war* in Iraq is. You f*ckups could wipe your *sses without leaving skid marks in your underwear, you aren’t fit to lead janitorial crew. Loser.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:25 pmAnd, if you check the numbers, you will find that you are wrong about this 1 or 2 points stuff. I think you just made that up. Comment by Bluedog49 — May 14, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
It’s just another b*llsh*t lie that the idiot wingnuts tell themselves and repeat hoping they can rewrite history and their historic defeat and failure in 2006. They can’t stand to see that it was the worst election showing that Republicans have had in almost a century! Not a single Democrat lost their seat, and the gains were historic in size! And even more people have bailed from the *since* the election. Those losers are such whiny and pathetic little liars. They can’t even be honest to themselves! How sad!
May 14th, 2007 at 6:27 pmm12: “In early 2005 (a more appropriate comparison to now, being a nonelection year), the GOP Congress had a 37% approval.”
Again, go look at the cumulative numbers at Pollingreport.com (why do I feel like I’m dealing with crazy people?). It’s not really that relevant to cherrypick a given poll on a given week. If you look at September and October of that year, for example, you will see a 28, a couple of 29’s, a 26 and a couple in the low 30’s. Now, scroll up to the top of the summary and take an average of the last 5 or 6 polls on Pelosi’s congress.
Look, this isn’t a frickin argument! I’m just trying to get a couple of trolls to see reality here.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:34 pmLook, this isn’t a frickin argument! I’m just trying to get a couple of trolls to see reality here.
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 14, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
Then you’re right, its not an argument, its an exercise in futility. Tell you what, you continue to “enlighten” them and I’ll squeeze this here stone. I bet I get blood before you can get the point across.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:38 pmBluePuP notes…”…..decent people would not really be proud of the fact that we played both sides of the war against themselves, selling chemical weapons which would horribly kill hundreds of thousands of people on both sides.”
Au contraire – decent people would be proud that two enemies were fighting each other rather than us. But then, we know whose side you’re on…….Pssst, if you feel like you’re dealing with crazy people…look in the mirror.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:48 pm“In early 2005 (a more appropriate comparison to now, being a nonelection year)”
comparing the current political situation to early 2005 is foolish at best. the repubs in the house and their constituents are waking up a little bit more each day, desperate to unsh!t the bed that is bush’s foreign policy. of course, bush doesn’t deal in good faith with any dems, and all those repub reps are getting hung out to dry because of it. 11 of them apparently grew a pair last week, but that still leaves 180 or so repubs to go.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:52 pmAgain, go look at the cumulative numbers at Pollingreport.com (why do I feel like I’m dealing with crazy people?). It’s not really that relevant to cherrypick a given poll on a given week. If you look at September and October of that year, for example, you will see a 28, a couple of 29’s, a 26 and a couple in the low 30’s. Now, scroll up to the top of the summary and take an average of the last 5 or 6 polls on Pelosi’s congress.
We haven’t reached September of 07 yet to make that comparison.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:52 pmWell you should congratulate yourself…..a policy position backed by AlQaeda is no small achievement…..Good work!!
Toooodles……..
Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
Let’s see, which President decided that showing up his own father by deposing Saddam Hussein and occupying Iraq was FAR more important than trying to achieve some measure of justice for the Sept 11 victims and their loved ones by actually trying to catch or kill Usama bin Laden, hmmm, such a difficult question to answer
Obviously lil’ trooper toodles supports bin Laden’s ability to okay and bankroll further anti-US attacks since lil’ trooper toodles’ is such a supreme lackwit apologist for President Jr
And while others may suggest lil’ trooper toodles get its worthless ass to Iraq and glorify W by turning into cannon fodder, I would venture that, if lil’ trooper toodles aim is as faulty as its rhetoric, that it makes much more sense to keep lil’ trooper toodles far away from the US troops lil’ trooper toodles would clearly shoot or stab in the back
Poor lil’ trooper toodles, such a shame no one here-or in the country-takes it seriously, not after the ass-whuppin’ it took in the November elections last year
So why, lil’ trooper toodles, should anyone give any credence to your easily-debunked blather and obvious lunatic screeds?
Lil’ trooper toodles spin should be most enjoyable, especially when using “retards” to describe those its arguments can’t debunk or contradict using logic, rationality or common sense
But hey, you keep reaching for the stars there, lil’ trooper toodles, perhaps someone, somewhere, is probably VERY proud of your contributions to political discourse
Of course, that would probably be the same types who think W’s a competent President and effective military commander, a group that shrinks of adherents by the minute
May 14th, 2007 at 6:54 pmShane, moonbats like you are NOT the majority of American people. Let us bow our heads and thank God for this. hahahahahaha!!!!!!
oh no, I said God in a Liberal website….the LIberals are melting, melting…ahhhhhhhhh!!! someone help them. hahahahahaha!!!!!
Comment by valianttheplagiarist
VilePlagiarist , and neoCON robotic shills like you aren’t in the majority, either. Has anyone here actually melted? No, only your arguments and the fact that you snitch quotes from rightwing sites and use them as your own.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:54 pm“Has anyone here actually melted?”
perhaps someone who is allergic to posts with excessive multiple exclamation points!!!!!!!!
May 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pmValiant Venus: “Au contraire – decent people would be proud that two enemies were fighting each other rather than us. But then, we know whose side you’re on…….Pssst, if you feel like you’re dealing with crazy people…look in the mirror.”
OK, we sold chemical weapons including nerve gas to both the Iranians and the Iraqis. Hundreds of thousands of them died horrible deaths on our gas. The Iraqis who died at the hands of Iranians were our allies at the time, but we sold Iranians weapons anyway. It is singularly one of the most despicable episodes in American foreign policy history…. and you think I’M crazy to think this is not something for which we should feel proud???!!! Yikes. What kind of society have we become here, people. Is there ANY FOUNDER of this country who wouldn’t disavow this kind of evil, machiavellian foreign policy?
May 14th, 2007 at 7:06 pmBluePuP – Saddams Iraqui’s WERE NOT OUR ALLIES – Saddam was NEVER our friend – he knew it and we knew it. His was a convenient arrangement to keep Islamowacks busy wacking each other. (You must be dehydrated crying buckets of tears for our enemies….) You poor thing
May 14th, 2007 at 7:23 pmBluedog,
May 14th, 2007 at 7:27 pmVileVenus is only the true face of “compassionate conservatism.” Yeah, kill everyone who isn’t Christian or Jewish, right, VV?
Valiant: “Saddam was NEVER our friend…”
Look, we’ve all seen the picture of a smiling Rummy shaking Hussein’s hand. I guess it’s going to be like this: who are you gonna believe? Valiant Venus or your own eyes.
In addition, if you know thing one about Saddam, you know that he started his relationship with us as a CIA asset. Not only was he our friend, he was our friend for decades. There are only two possibilities: you either don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re intellectually dishonest.
May 14th, 2007 at 7:29 pmPs. Vile Venus
May 14th, 2007 at 7:30 pm“Saddams Iraqui’s(SIC)” should be spelled “Saddam’s Iraqis.” Still can’t spell nor use the apostrophe correctly can you, Ms. Phony Lawyerette?
BluePuP – Saddams Iraqui’s WERE NOT OUR ALLIES – Saddam was NEVER our friend – he knew it and we knew it. His was a convenient arrangement to keep Islamowacks busy wacking each other. (You must be dehydrated crying buckets of tears for our enemies….) You poor thing
Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War
Pay special attention to the section entitled “The Tanker War and Direct U.S. Support for Iraq.”
May 14th, 2007 at 7:30 pmLora, it must take a very dark-hearted person to be proud of our role in the Iraq-Iran war.
And, I’m sure the average Iraqi appreciates the wonderful sentiment she displays towards there people. Talk about the ugly American. Sheeesh!
May 14th, 2007 at 7:32 pmThere are only two possibilities: you(VileVenus) either don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re intellectually dishonest.
Comment by Bluedog49
Bluedog,
May 14th, 2007 at 7:32 pmI would venture to say that VV is both.
Lora, Thanks!! I think my keyboard needs a little canned “Dust Off”…You remind me of the “Church Lady” on SNL ….only little more constipated looking…..
May 14th, 2007 at 7:36 pmOh, don’t blame it on the keys, VV the whiner. You constantly and consistently make the same mistakes, dearie.
May 14th, 2007 at 7:44 pmI don’t watch SNL, so don’t know what the “Church Lady” looks like any more than you know what I look like. But really, dearie, what is a “good Christian” like you doing making fun of a Church Lady? Or are you Jewish now?
#144 – BluePuP notes, “we’ve all seen the picture of a smiling Rummy shaking Hussein’s hand. I guess it’s going to be like this: who are you gonna believe? Valiant Venus or your own eyes.”
Do you have a point? We all saw pictures of a smiling FDR sharing a hearty laugh with Josef Stalin – so WHAT? Did you ever see a picture of Richard Nixon heartily shaking Mao’s hand? If this is your paltry evidence, you’re NOT worth wasting any more minutes on……Pathetic…….
May 14th, 2007 at 7:45 pmLora, it must take a very dark-hearted person to be proud of our role in the Iraq-Iran war.
Comment by BlueDog49
Don’t forget, Blue, that this same person, who claims to be a mother, was trying to defend the murder of a 3-year old in Haditha last year. Are you sure VileVenus even has a heart–let alone a dark one?
May 14th, 2007 at 7:46 pmLora – to be precise, I’m blaming this incident on dust and debris below my keys. Let me be precise in describing humourless, dour you…..”frigid b*t*h” seems to most succinctly describe our favourite Ivy Leaguer…..
Psssst…..Catch an old episode of SNL – YOU are the real-life embodiment of the Church Lady….Look at the bright side, at least I didn’t say “Mr. Bill” or a “Conehead”…….
May 14th, 2007 at 7:52 pmLora – You’re such a LIAR. I don’t defend the killing of a three year old. (Murder is a legal term you obviously do not understand.) I am sorry to say innocents have always been the victims of war. You are one of the most intellectually dishonest people to play in this sand box.
Thank you for reminding me to go back and ignore your lunacy.
May 14th, 2007 at 7:57 pmBluePuP – Hurry – figure out how to recover from your stupidity or stumbling. How good of friends were the US and the USSR??? Did Mao and Richard have a warm fuzzy relationship???
Toooodles, tool…….
May 14th, 2007 at 7:59 pm#148 Comment by Lora — May 14, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
There are only two possibilities: you(VileVenus) either don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re intellectually dishonest.
Comment by Bluedog49
Bluedog,
I would venture to say that VV is both.
Hi guys,
Actually this troll is just playing its “game” for whatever reasons it has. Its anonimity allows it to hide its true beliefs and feelings. There is simply no way we will ever know its true intent. So either it is doing a job for the right wing idiots for pay or pleasure, or it is simply playing a psychological Game for itself (as in Eric Berne’s book “Games People Play”. The Game would be called Now I’ve Got You, You Son Of A Bitch, or NIGYSOB is the acronym. Look this Game up and tell me if this does not sound like VV, prez, and most of the other trolls.)
There really is no point in trying to “discuss” anything with VV, as its whole point is to get us upset. If nobody gets upset it loses! So, either ignore it completely, or play with it and enjoy the repartee. I choose the later. Better fun, than my anger which is used against me. I reserve my serious comments for people here who deserve them like you.
Psssst Venus sweetie,
Wanna share with us which one of the above scenarios fits you? I go for the NIGYSOB Game. Whatta ya think, my comb over sweetie?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Psssst, Psssst: (like that double Psssst?) VV, do you hear the music? You know how it goes. Blappity, Blappity, Blippity, Blap. Your head must really hurt, huh?
May 14th, 2007 at 8:01 pmNorm Ornstein is too good for the AEI. He is not a liar and not a political hack. Why is he still there?
May 14th, 2007 at 8:06 pmValiant: “BluePuP – Hurry – figure out how to recover from your stupidity or stumbling. How good of friends were the US and the USSR??? Did Mao and Richard have a warm fuzzy relationship???
Toooodles, tool…….”
All this post does is illustrate how unbelievably clueless this troll is. We had lucrative trading agreements with both Red China and the USSR, dumbass. All that bull you bought about the cold war was just grist for the rube mill and you were evidently a prime rube. And, none of your inane obfuscation changes the fact that we sold weapons to both sides of the Iraq and Iran war at the time we were referring to Saddam Hussein as our friend and ally.
May 14th, 2007 at 8:09 pm“humourless”
there’s that “u” again.
May 14th, 2007 at 8:09 pmPsssst, Psssst: (like that double Psssst?) VV, do you hear the music? You know how it goes. Blappity, Blappity, Blippity, Blap. Your head must really hurt, huh?
Comment by Merlin — May 14, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
I’m not sure NIGYSOB is really apt here. I would say this situation more closely resembles Rapo. It seems to enjoy drawing people in to a discussion and then rebuking them with baseless personal attacks. The payoff being that it has had its desire to be found interesting filled. Nevertheless your point is intact, only engage it if you have the desire to partake in gameplaying yourself.
May 14th, 2007 at 8:17 pmDo you have a point? We all saw pictures of a smiling FDR sharing a hearty laugh with Josef Stalin – so WHAT? Did you ever see a picture of Richard Nixon heartily shaking Mao’s hand? If this is your paltry evidence, you’re NOT worth wasting any more minutes on……Pathetic……. Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
MMMM… maybe because at the time Stalin had helped save our *sses from Nazi Germany? Or maybe because Nixon wanted the US to be allies with China against the Soviet Union? Yet you RepubliCONs have insisted that both were mistakes – why the change of heart – st*pid c*nt where Saddam is involved?
BluePuP – Hurry – figure out how to recover from your stupidity or stumbling. Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
Pure projection – st*pid c*nt.
How good of friends were the US and the USSR??? Did Mao and Richard have a warm fuzzy relationship??? Toooodles, tool……. Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
Actually the US and USSR were pretty good friends during the war – we saved each others *sses – you st*pid c*nt. As for Mao and Richard, well they did both enjoy Chinese food in an intimate setting – just saying!…
As for who’s a tool? Since you’re Karl Rove’s personal d*ld* – you’d know about what it takes to be a *tool* – st*pid c*nt.
May 14th, 2007 at 8:41 pmAu contraire – decent people would be proud that two enemies were fighting each other rather than us. But then, we know whose side you’re on…….Pssst, if you feel like you’re dealing with crazy people…look in the mirror. Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
More war mongering, and rejoicing at the suffering and killing of others. You really are a sick *crazy* religious fanatic – you st*pid little c*nt.
May 14th, 2007 at 8:43 pmLora – You’re such a LIAR. I don’t defend the killing of a three year old. (Murder is a legal term you obviously do not understand.) I am sorry to say innocents have always been the victims of war. You are one of the most intellectually dishonest people to play in this sand box.
to be precise, I’m blaming this incident on dust and debris below my keys. Let me be precise in describing humourless, dour you…..â€frigid b*t*h†seems to most succinctly describe our favourite Ivy Leaguer…..
Psssst…..Catch an old episode of SNL – YOU are the real-life embodiment of the Church Lady
Comments by VileVenus
Look who’s calling whom LIAR. You did defend the killing/murder of a three-year old in Haditha a number of times last. Innocents are indeed often the victims or collateral damage of war; but since you were posting frequently about the Haditha massacre, you obviously knew that it wasn’t an accidental bombing or shooting and that US military people deliberately went into a civilian house and killed its residents. There’s been a trial of the US military personnel involved, hasn’t there, or don’t you read that far?
You can’t defend yourself with facts, so resort to personal attacks on me. Coming from a phony who thinks dead children jokes are the epitomy of “fulmenting(SIC-your word) humor,” that’s fine by me. You wouldn’t know true wit if it hit you smack in the head.
Finally, blame the dust and debris in your head for your head not your poor keyboard for your consistent mistakes in basic English. BTW, don’t you ever clean your keyboard? Or are you a lifetime member of Bad Housekeeping?
To quote you, “You are one of the most …dishonest people”–note that I removed the word “intellectually,” as it’s an oxymoron to describe you.
Ps. Your lack of knowledge of recent history is astounding. Ever since Nixon’s handshake with China, the US has had fairly friendly relations with that country. And now thanks to your beloved preznit, it has even become one of the US’s major lenders–helping indirectly to finance the war you so very much support, dearie.
May 14th, 2007 at 8:44 pm#160 Comment by erock — May 14, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
I’m not sure NIGYSOB is really apt here. I would say this situation more closely resembles Rapo.
Rapo is essentially a sexual Game. NIGYSOB is the internal social advantage of playing RAPO, so there is some overlap. If VV is truly a woman I would see the possibility of Rapo. However, RAPO is really built around the idea of using sex in order to hook the other party. Here, that is out of context, which is why I chose NIGYSOB which is a major Life Game in its own right. It simply involves getting the other person to stick their neck out so the NIGYSOBer can cut it off. That stimulus can be an angry response, a false statement, an egotistical remark, whatever. Preying on the weakness of the other, is the purpose. No weakness; no ability to hook into a Game player.
I don’t hear, in these troll posts, any other response than NIGYSOB. As noted above, even if RAPO is the main Game, I hear it saying silently, or under its breath, NIGYSOB, every time it sinks its hook into the gullible player.
If you have read my posts about the troll locker room, that is where, in fantasy I envision trolls meeting after a hard day on the blogs to commiserate with each other in Pastime fashion. Pastimes validate the NIGYSOB Game, and push the Life Script forward.
May 14th, 2007 at 8:46 pmSimply by reading the posts of the entity calling itself “Valiantthehater” one can quickly deduce the following:
May 14th, 2007 at 8:51 pm– this person is male.
– this person is no older than 30 years old, possibly as young as 25.
– this person has never read any history, philosophy, or law.
– this person has probably not seen daylight or eaten anything other than fast foods in the past week.
– this person has never been to any institute of higher learning, except possibly to ogle coeds or attend a sporting event.
– this person has had little contact with the written word.
– this person is possibly a member of the Log Cabin Republicans.
Other than that I find the rantings provided by this keyboard-challenged person amusing. I would suggest a course or two in debating and writing skills – they probably wouldn’t help, but while the so-called “Valiantthehater” is at class, he’s not here and the adults could have an intelligent discussion.
Ever since Nixon’s handshake with China, the US has had fairly friendly relations with that country. And now thanks to your beloved preznit, it has even become one of the US’s major lenders–helping indirectly to finance the war you so very much support, dearie. Comment by Lora — May 14, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
It’s insane that a 24year old Anorexic that idolizes Ann Coulter would sound more like a dried old husk of a closet queen from the 1950s than a modern young woman who should be alive with hope instead of a festering wound of pessimism, hatred and whining…
May 14th, 2007 at 9:02 pm#164
“Simply by reading the posts of the entity calling itself “Valiantthehater†one can quickly deduce the following”
But you’ve left out VVs most enduring traits (so you must be wrong about its age.) Its the comb over that gives it all away! How can any one speak badly about a 54 year old man sitting in front of two computers in his dirty undershirt with a couple of ashtrays full of butts sitting on his disorganized desks? Can you picture it? The brown sweat rolling down, wetting the food stained undershirt, swiftly shifting from one thread to another on the two computers. The life of a troll is tough! I mean keeping up with which one of your user names is arguing with whom is daunting. Especially when the chosen personas are opposite (Hi there VV and hater.)
May 14th, 2007 at 9:12 pmSo give my sweetie a break (ask which arm first, OK?) and have a little sympathy. Maybe send over a cold one, to help him put up with the hot windowless basement he lives in.
If you have read my posts about the troll locker room, that is where, in fantasy I envision trolls meeting after a hard day on the blogs to commiserate with each other in Pastime fashion. Pastimes validate the NIGYSOB Game, and push the Life Script forward.
Comment by Merlin — May 14, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
That’s not exactly my understanding of NIGYSOB, but your analysis of the payoff is correct.
May 14th, 2007 at 9:19 pmUppity women sure bring out the “best” in the idiot trolls.
**eyes rolling**
May 14th, 2007 at 9:43 pm#168 Lady Z. by their post’s the black hearted little troll’s are scared shitless of women in general, even the female troll’s…There must be some needed dominance for them to act like they do..I know why the males are the way they are, to many bad chemichels in their pablum and their mom’s didnt’ like them….LOL…Some people just shoulden’t breed…Blessings and good night.
May 14th, 2007 at 10:20 pm#136 Comment by valiant venus — May 14, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
You strained for a point:
Au contraire – decent people would be proud that two enemies were fighting each other rather than us. But then, we know whose side you’re on…….Pssst, if you feel like you’re dealing with crazy people…look in the mirror.
Look Sweetie, you are the head looni..er troll around here. Right? You’ve just got to do better than this!! Outright transparency does not do your exhalted position justice. Even with your dull mind you must realize this is a sophomoric attempt! How are you going to play NIGYSOB with this level of play? Shape up or send us some trolls that are up to the challenge. You simply aren’t making it here at all. You should have retired when you were at the top of your game. It’s very sad when (keyboard) heroes hang on like this…sigh.
May 14th, 2007 at 10:25 pmUppity women sure bring out the “best†in the idiot trolls.
**eyes rolling**
Comment by Zooey
Do you mean there is any “good” to bring out in the first place? And Sharon is right: they probably shouldn’t breed. That’s why we should be glad that VileVenus’ four kids are only fictional.
May 14th, 2007 at 10:32 pm#168 Comment by Zooey — May 14, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
Uppity women sure bring out the “best†in the idiot trolls.
**eyes rolling**
Hi Zooey,
Is this the “best” side, uppitty women bring out? Whew! I was wondering what was bringing this “side” out!
Quoting from me above in #167:
Its the comb over that gives it all away! How can any one speak badly about a 54 year old man sitting in front of two computers in his dirty undershirt with a couple of ashtrays full of butts sitting on his disorganized desks? Can you picture it? The brown sweat rolling down, wetting the food stained undershirt, swiftly shifting from one thread to another on the two computers. The life of a troll is tough! I mean keeping up with which one of your user names is arguing with whom is daunting. Especially when the chosen personas are opposite (Hi there VV and hater.)
May 14th, 2007 at 10:35 pm#135 Comment by erock — May 14, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 14, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
Look, this isn’t a frickin argument! I’m just trying to get a couple of trolls to see reality here.
#135 Comment by erock — May 14, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
Then you’re right, its not an argument, its an exercise in futility. Tell you what, you continue to “enlighten†them and I’ll squeeze this here stone. I bet I get blood before you can get the point across.
erock, beautifully stated. And spot on of course.
May 14th, 2007 at 10:45 pm#172 – Merlin & all
I was being sarcastic!
Um, “thanks” for the visual. I’ll get you for that.
May 14th, 2007 at 11:36 pmZooey,
May 15th, 2007 at 12:50 amI knew you were being sarcastic, and I was being sarcastic. My humor, which is completely over the head of VileVenus, tends towards sarcasm or word-plays, sometimes involving more than one language.
Anyway, I hope you did well in your courses and enjoyed your first semester of college.
#174 Comment by Zooey — May 14, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
#172 – Merlin & all
I was being sarcastic!
Um, “thanks†for the visual. I’ll get you for that.
And just so there is no confusion, I know where you stand and was just playing. I happen to really like “uppity women” who are strong and speak their minds. I find them a joy to be around, especially if they have a sense of humor! You do and reading your posts is refreshing.
I can hardly wait for your enticing “visual!” This could turn out to be like that old show, “Can You Top This?”
May 15th, 2007 at 2:47 amThat teflon Armani is simply divine!
Go Nancy! Make their rabid little heads explode.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:13 am“Dear Barfly – When the mujuhadeen were battling your friends, the Soviets, a little band named AlQaeda was moving to the forefront of Islamic terrorism, due in large part to the funding of Osama binLadin. ”
Hey pinhead, the crank has warped your brain cells. I’m talking about Reagan arming both sides of the Iran/Iraq war, not your buddies the muja hadeen. Poor toodles, you seem to be slipping into some sort of early senility, due to the meth, no doubt. I hope you have given someone power of attorney, as your psychosis is getting worse.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:20 amGALLUP: Congress Approval Down to 29%
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27589
Funny how this site never shows the polls when it is like this. Love the new congress, keep is up losers.
ROTFL
May 15th, 2007 at 12:59 pmAnyone who stands up to the incompetent band of fools in the White House should be praised. For those who think Speaker Pelosi’s Syria trip was harmful to America, it was like a fart in a hurricane in comparison to the incompetent policies of the current administration.
The damage the Bush administration has done to America’s reputation and the squandering of its treasure will take years to mend. However, the blood on Bush’s hands can never be removed. He is more likely to lose sleep over how he will be judged by history than for the tens of thousands of lives he has destroyed.
May 16th, 2007 at 9:03 pm