Despite Rove’s Claims, Voter Fraud Wasn’t A ‘Problem’ In Nevada
Despite Rove’s Claims, Voter Fraud Wasn’t A ‘Problem’ In Nevada
Yesterday, the Washington Post reported, “Of the 12 U.S. attorneys known to have been dismissed or considered for removal last year, five were identified by Rove or other administration officials as working in districts that were trouble spots for voter fraud.”
One of those districts was Nevada. The U.S. attorney in that region, Daniel Bogden, was fired last year as part of the Bush administration’s prosecutor purge. According to Justice Department documents, part of the reason he was fired was because Karl Rove and Benton Campbell, chief of staff for the Justice Department’s Criminal Division, believed that Bogden didn’t go after voter fraud aggressively enough:
[Senior counselor Matthew] Friedrich had asked Campbell for his assessment of Rove’s complaints about problems in New Mexico, Milwaukee and Philadelphia, according to a congressional aide familiar with Friedrich’s remarks.
The notes show that Campbell also identified Nevada as a problem district. Daniel G. Bogden of Las Vegas was among the nine U.S. attorneys known to have been removed from their jobs last year.
Yet as the Las Vegas Sun reports today,voter fraud wasn’t a problem in Nevada. In fact, Bogden didn’t have any cases to pursue:
Secretary of State Ross Miller, a Democrat, said he knew of no cases brought to the U.S. attorney’s office in recent years. Nevada Republicans say the same.
The biggest case Nevada had seen recently were allegations in 2004 that a Republican-financed group had shredded registration cards from Democratic voters. The FBI investigated but it appears the case was not forwarded to Bogden.
As the New York Times noted in a March 16 editorial, “In partisan Republican circles, the pursuit of voter fraud is code for suppressing the votes of minorities and poor people. … There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud in this country. Rather, Republicans under Mr. Bush have used such allegations as an excuse to suppress the votes of Democratic-leaning groups.”
Gonzales has admitted that when he approved of the firings in Nov. 2006, he didn’t know why Bogden was on the hit list.
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May 15th, 2007 at 7:24 pmAnother rock to add to Gonzales’ necklace.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:25 pmVoter fraud was a problem in Ohio and Florida.
It is amazing how dumb people are. We say “hey there is a problem” and the admin says “it’s over there” and then when nothing is found people say “there wasn’t any fraud” all the while they all ignore that we said “the fraud is over here in Ohio and Florida”
Friggin’ people are stupid.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:26 pmHas there been any truth to come out of this administration? They started lying during the 1999 campaign when they stated that they would restore moral values to the White House and that Dubya was a compassionate conservative…both lies. They are lying sons of beeotches.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:26 pmVoter Fraud was a tool used by KKKarl Rove and Diebold to get this crazy dunce into the White House.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:27 pmWe need volunteers…
…for a black-ops operation…
…on the Rove compound…
May 15th, 2007 at 7:28 pmi wouldn’t call it “voter” fraud – because it almost seems the fraud was on the end of the individual voters. although that might happen from time to time, the real problem is election fraud – the political establishment does what it can to ensure a certain outcome.
to me, that makes the entire government illegitimate.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:30 pmRove could be in deep deep guano… check it out:
I’m listening to Greg Palast on Democracy Now! talking about how Karl Rove’s lackeys totally screwed up when they were sending emails about firing US Attorneys for not being Republican Party and Karl Rove friendly. It seems that instead of sending the emails they typed up to georgewbush.com they sent it to georgewbush.org which is a domain that friends of Greg Palast’s own. Greg Palast now has 500 of the Karl Rove emails. What was revealed in the emails reviewed by RFK Jr. had him saying (paraphrasing) that “Rove et al should be in jail, not in office.â€
Voting rights attorney Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has called for prison time for the new US Attorney for Arkansas, Timothy Griffin and investigation of Griffin’s former boss, Karl Rove, chief political advisor to President Bush.
“Timothy Griffin,†said Kennedy,â€who is the new US attorney in Arkansas, was actually the mastermind behind the voter fraud efforts by the Bush Administration to disenfranchise over a million voters through ‘caging’ techniques – which are illegal. 
[ http://www.jasongooljar.com/?p=1110 ]
Hello. Voting fraud? Smoking Gun? Anyone? Anyone at all?
ITMFA’s NOW!!!
May 15th, 2007 at 7:36 pmActually, the electoral fraud problems in the 2004 Presidential Election in Nevada and about two dozen other States was the hacking, rigging and electronic election theft by Republicans and the Bush crime family taking advantage of insecure electronic computerized voting machines and vote tabulating machines. “It’s all done electronically, you know…” as GWB might quip in a moment of weakness.
Please send my essay at: http://www.bottlebrushpress.com/dumpelectronicvoting.html
Or check at http://www.bradblog.com for a more detailed analysis of GOP electronic election theft in 2004.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:37 pmMann Coulter voted in the wrong district in 2004.
Her case was dropped last week, after a FBI bigshot called the prosecutor
May 15th, 2007 at 7:40 pm“Gonzales has admitted that when he approved of the firings in Nov. 2006, he didn’t know why Bogden was on the hit list.”
Excuse #1: It’s everyone else’s fault. All I did was sign some papers.
Excuse #2: The Attorney General is very busy. I don’t have time to read everything that comes across my desk.
Excuse #3: I was too busy killing off habeas corpus
May 15th, 2007 at 7:43 pmMann Coulter did an OJ.
IOKIYAR.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:44 pmFBI bigshot called the prosecutor
Comment by Tom3 #9
…AFTER we’ve successfully adjudicated the criminal Bushite junta…
…we need to find that FBI TRAITOR…
…AND the Palm Beach County al Ceerackkkas…
…who let that junkie Rush Limbaugh off the hook too…
ARREST
TRY
CONVICT
and POVERTIZE
…(to help defray war costs of course)…
…EVERYfu*kin’One of the no good sons of bi*ches…
May 15th, 2007 at 7:48 pmI’m trying to figure out why this is a story. I can’t think of a better reason to can an AG than to stall in his duties to eradicate voter fraud. The party in charge has the power and the right to make heads roll. It’s been going on since…….17776? Hey Daniel Bogden – live and learn. You’re out of a job because you either refused or were too dumb to tow the line that got you there. Don’t let these whinning libs take advantage of you and use you for their political purposes. Be a man and admit you blew it.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:48 pmI can’t think of a better reason to can an AG than to stall in his duties to eradicate voter fraud.
That would be true if there was any evidence that voter fraud actually occurred in Nevada. Since the only reported case wasn’t even referred to Bogden for prosecution, firing him because he didn’t pursue non-existent cases seems sketchy.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:53 pmI’m trying to figure out why this is a story? I can’t think of a better reason to can an AG than a lack of effort to eliminate voter fraud. He was either too dumb or refused to follow advice from the party in power that got him there, either way, I think the lesson is registering now. This has been the status quo since…….well….1776. Be a man, Daniel Bogden, and let it be a lesson in life. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Don’t let these whinning libs abuse you now for their political purposes…..we already have Norma McCorvey. She can testify how they use you and then spit you out.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:54 pmI’m trying to figure out why this is a story.
Comment by Eric #13
…or how my parents are related…
May 15th, 2007 at 7:56 pmFat papa. Way to stay with the argument. Ad Hominen is the liberal style. Try substance someday. I know logic confuses but try to re-read what I said and let it sink in.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:59 pmPlease don’t feed the trolls.
This is a humane troll category-and-release zone.
After you catch a troll lying, just throw them back under the bridge.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:59 pm#16 Big Papa:
I’m trying to figure out why this is a story.
Comment by Eric #13
…or how my parents are related…
Brother and sister, it seems. ;-)
Cheers,
May 15th, 2007 at 8:01 pmThis must be a hot topic.
Trolls are double-teaming to derail it.
Repuke trolls have nothing to say.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:03 pmAd Hominen
Comment by Eric #17
Sorry…
…don’t eat ‘em…
…never have liked grits…
May 15th, 2007 at 8:04 pmLOL!!
Good one, Ame!
May 15th, 2007 at 8:05 pm#17 Eric:
We read it. It sunk. Waaaayyyyyyyyyyy down. You want to go diving in the cesspool to drag it up again, be our guest.
All the sentient people here did more than just read your repeated offal; they read the article itself, which explains in easy-to-understand terms just why you have sh*t-fer-brains (leaving your unusual parentage aside): There was nothing for Bogden to investigate.
Cheers,
May 15th, 2007 at 8:06 pm#16 Spot on, Big Papa
Eric, in light of the information provided at the top of this thread and elsewhere in the public record your comment is completely illogical.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:06 pmI’m cookin’ up a mess o’ AdHominem Grits for all the Repuke trolls visitin’ here today!
May 15th, 2007 at 8:08 pmEric, you followed on your illogical post with a snotty remark to someone else about being logical. Don’t you think that makes you look bad?
May 15th, 2007 at 8:08 pmEric!!
You’re a DUMBASS!!
May 15th, 2007 at 8:11 pm*Totally random* link of the day:
Gonzo now wants to wiretap you if get a DVD burner and a couple of blanks. Plus: extra jailtime for crimes that are ill defined and impossible to prove:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/15/doj_proposes_toughter_copyright_laws/
May 15th, 2007 at 8:12 pm…or how my parents are related…
Comment by big papa
A masterpiece.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:13 pmYeah, this from the people that think Al Gore won the election. Complain and whine and call everyone else names. Lol. So typical. It must really suck being out of power. It’s call SCOREBOARD! You don’t have the White House and you are ineffective winning the House and Senate. Whaaaa…..! Where is that mandate Pelosi was talking about? She did more before she was Speaker. I think Obey should tear her a new one agian. Total chaos.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:14 pmCan someone tell me why neocon trolls defend every indecent, digusting, unlawful, and unethical thing that Bush does? My parents voted for Nixon but they were not very proud of him when it was revealed that he was involved in the Watergate scandal.
The Bush administration is involved in a scandal worse than Watergate yet trolls are falling all over themselves to tout what a great man and great president Bush is. What would Bush have to do to get these people to wake up? Instead of fawning all over him why can’t they take one second and look at him objectively?
May 15th, 2007 at 8:15 pmIntelligent responses to Eric’s argument: 0
May 15th, 2007 at 8:16 pmAd Hominen attacks to Eric’s argument: 10
Debate scoreboard: Eric winning by decisive logic.
Voter fraud may not have been a problem in Nevada, but it was certainly a problem in Ohio in 2004.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:17 pmI sense a frustrated little political operative in our midst. Probably some low ranking staffer at RNC headquarters or in Karl’s shop. A deadender who knows in his charcoal briquet of a heart that it’s over for the gang. Maybe I give him too much credit, though. Might just be vermin dropping in from RedState. But this one sounds like he has a mean streak.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:18 pmWhat I like about Eric is that he reminds us all just how clueless the Bush lickspittles are about the plight of the GOP. This denial will simply deepen and extend the damage suffered by the party in 2008.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:20 pmFor the record: I think Bush is a terrible president. He should show some backbone and own up to his mistakes and blunders. I would counsel Bush to back up Gonzalez and say: Hell yeah, we fired their asses. I don’t need a reason. Just cop an attitude and I’ll fire you.
Of course, that is what happens when you have a moderate president that kowtows to the left. Reagan fired the air traffic controllers asses and replaced them and the whole country applauded. Wasn’t it Reagan 49, Dukakis 1? Glory days……..
May 15th, 2007 at 8:22 pmCongrats, Eric! For your victory, you win absolutely nothing. Way to be a champion!
Oh, that, and you haven’t won a thing. Crawl back to your monster’s lair.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:23 pmCoffins Draped with Flags sez:
Actually, the problem in Ohio in 2004 was election fraud, not voter fraud. There’s a difference.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:23 pmIt must really suck being out of power.
Comment by Eric — May 15, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
Notice how our troll defines power exclusively in terms of controlling the White House. A true authoritarian. So tell me, j*ckass, will you come around to taunt us when Clinton or Obama is president? Or will you kneel and worship them?
May 15th, 2007 at 8:23 pm“Can someone tell me why neocon trolls defend every indecent, digusting, unlawful, and unethical thing that Bush does? “
Because their paychecks depend on it?
May 15th, 2007 at 8:23 pmBecause they are evil?
Because it makes them feel like they matter?
Eric…
…wants us all to remember that Bogden is himself a Repulsivescum…
… (or NOW maybe ex-R)…
…and that by NOT taking one for Eric’s gods (Bushiva & L’il Dick)…
…Bogden looks like a “whiner”…
…see Eric is a REAL…
…Party-before-country inbred Bushite worshipper…
…who’d rather have his kids raped by dogs…
…than concede he made a mistake voting twice for TRAITORS, THIEVES, MASS MURDERERS, and DEMONS…
Eric is in effect:
YOUR family members
neighbors
friends
and co-worker
…who should be…
…ROUNDED UP…
…and…
…ROOTed out…
May 15th, 2007 at 8:24 pmNo, there was no *fraud* in Nevada, but there was in 2004 in Ohio where two wingnut election officials were since sentenced and sent to prison for rigging the recount….
May 15th, 2007 at 8:29 pmActually, the problem in Ohio in 2004 was election fraud, not voter fraud. There’s a difference. Comment by TripMaster Monkey — May 15, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
Yeah, the difference is that election fraud is almost always Republican – and real.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:30 pm> “Can someone tell me why neocon trolls defend every indecent,
> digusting, unlawful, and unethical thing that Bush does? “
> Because their paychecks depend on it?
> Because they are evil?
> Because it makes them feel like they matter?
Because their faith in authority, however corrupt, is unshakeable?
“Der Führer hat immer recht” and “Die Partei irrt sich nie” are easy to translate.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:34 pmI find Erics argument confusing. He says that he thinks Bush is a terrible President and that he Kowtows to the left.
And then he braggs about his side being in power. Huh?
Quite illogical Eric.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:34 pmReagan fired the air traffic controllers asses and replaced them and the whole country applauded. Wasn’t it Reagan 49, Dukakis 1? Glory days……..
Comment by Eric
Wasnt Reagan that popular bad actor that got to be President of the US? Oh, yeah, he took decisions…right. Just like Bush takes all the important political decisions himself…rrrriiight!
May 15th, 2007 at 8:36 pmIn Bizarro world; USA’s serve at the pleasure of the miserable little politically divisive hack turblossom, not the President
May 15th, 2007 at 8:39 pmClinton or Obama President…..? ROFLMAO…….Lol…..lol…….I would be willing to put real money on that one. America is smart enough to know the legacy’s of recent Democrat Presidents…..let’s see…….Carter….yeah, that was powerful. Those Iranians are still shaking in their boots over him. Clinton: Legacy can be wrapped up with two names: Monica and Bin Laden (one he did the other he didn’t). Who did you put up against the Republicans? McGovern? Dukakis (my army helmet is too big), Kerry (Scarecrow marries a millionaire heiress). Come on, that’s all you have? Now you’re going to send the most hated and distrusted woman in politics. When will you guys learn?
May 15th, 2007 at 8:41 pmComment by Eric — May 15, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
I think Eric just proved his point. He is not too bright.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:44 pmHey Led Zep. If you look closely (which libs never do), you’ll see I never said anything about my side being in power. I’m as independent as you’ll get.
Juan “Iran is not a threat” C: Good to see you back. I can see your still smarting over that shellacking you got last week.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:47 pm> Comment by Eric
Your understanding of history is sadly lacking. Lame.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:47 pmI can see your still smarting over that shellacking you got last week.
Comment by Eric
Oh, this is funny. Eric “my girlfriend run away with a Muslim” still wet his pants.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:50 pmHey Eric,
Question…
..your political soullessmate Laura Schlessinger…
…just told the wives of deployed soldiers to “STOP WHINING”…
…about being despaired about their husbands’ repeated deployments…
…Do YOU support the TROOPS (and their families) like Laura?
May 15th, 2007 at 8:51 pmEric, #34 is about you. It just occurred to me that you might be too dense to understand that.
May 15th, 2007 at 9:14 pmI’m as independent as you’ll get.
Comment by Eric — May 15, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!
Independent my ass.
May 15th, 2007 at 9:16 pm“Allo, I’d like a fish license, for me pet fish, Eric”
” ‘Ow did you know my name was Eric?”
May 15th, 2007 at 9:20 pmIs “it” dead yet?
…no response…
…Eric?
…(flatline)…
May 15th, 2007 at 9:32 pmBut you did Eric.
It must really suck being out of power.
Comment by Eric
Who is out of power? Democrats run Congress and the Republicans the White House.
Independents Scoreboard=0
I had hopes for the independent party at one time until they attracted the Savage types such as Jake.
May 15th, 2007 at 9:40 pmSo all these USAs who were fired for not being loyal to the Chimp, were presumably replaced by USAs like Tim Griffin who are 100% loyal to the Chimp, irrespective of their competence…. who is going to let them influence the 2008 election with their phoney voter fraud prosecutions and their blind-eyes to Gop corruption?
May 15th, 2007 at 10:49 pmYeah, this from the people that think Al Gore won the election. Complain and whine and call everyone else names
Comment by Eric — May 15, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
Lie, cheat, steal then gloat after which you brag about your ability to break the rules.
Hey Eric, bite me, shit-for-brains.
May 15th, 2007 at 10:53 pmOh, don’t worry…..I haven’t gone anywhere. Seriously folks, is Fat Papa drunk? I can’t even decipher what he’s saying. Can someone please translate? Juan “Iran is not threat” C, I don’t get what you’re talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else who also shellacked you? Muslim girlfriend, wet pants? Once again, nothing but name calling. No substantive rebuttals to the arguments. You guys are no fun, nobody debates on this lame excuse for a progressive thinking website. I could do better against myself. Can we at least make it interesting and make a point? I will only respond to substantive arguments. Eric doesn’t know history or his family is inbred is hardly a good argument. Trust me, names do not hurt so you’re wasting everyone’s time. So far I clearly own scoreboard.
May 15th, 2007 at 10:56 pmHaving worked as an Election Aide here in Az, they used the tactic of illegal immigrants voting to do two things 1) Supress the democratic vote, 2) Enrage the repug nutjobs to come out and vote. And of course, if you are here illegally in the country, the first thing you want todo is go somewhere voluntarlity that will ask to see your id! There has never been a case of illegal immigrant voting fraud in any state in the nation at any time. Its only because half the nation has the iq of a peanut that this is even worthy of discussion!
May 15th, 2007 at 10:57 pmIndependent my ass.
Comment by VerbalKint — May 15, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Every freakin’ troll that shows up is an independent. They have to know we don’t believe them so they must be too embarrassed to admit loyalty the the Bush Reich.
May 15th, 2007 at 10:58 pmSeriously folks, is Fat Papa drunk?
Comment by Eric #61
…and STILL wiping my a*s with your unintelligence…
…and YES, I agree…
..(you) could do better against yourself…
…in fact…
…that’s ALL you’ve BEEN doing since you got here…
May 15th, 2007 at 11:06 pmNope……still nothing……yawn……getting tired……….anyone up for substantive debate?
May 15th, 2007 at 11:13 pmEric sez:
Certainly…but unfortunately, you haven’t offered anything substantive at this point…
May 15th, 2007 at 11:16 pmI will only respond to substantive arguments.
Comment by Eric #61
…prosecution rests…
May 15th, 2007 at 11:18 pmZZzzzzzzzzzzzz. Disappointed. After 67 comments I was hoping someone would engage. Nada.
May 15th, 2007 at 11:27 pmof course there was a voter fraud problem in nevada. There was not enough of it in favor of the Repubican that was the problem.
May 15th, 2007 at 11:28 pmEric sez:
Engage what, Eric? If you actually have an argument, be so kind as to share it with the class. Kthx.
May 15th, 2007 at 11:35 pmI am starting to suspect that Eric genuinely believes he is being clever rhetorically, even though everyone else here only sees a dumb jerk who keeps saying “I know you are but what am I?” over and over.
If this is the best and brightest the GOP has to offer, they are doing even worse than I realized.
May 16th, 2007 at 12:03 amStill nothing. I’ll check back one more time and then I’m giving up hope to have substantive dialogue. Someone step up to the plate. Show some nads.
May 16th, 2007 at 12:10 amYeah, that’s what I thought. Good night libs.
May 16th, 2007 at 12:30 amEric, you don’t need a debate partner, you need someone to change your soiled diapers. Grow up child.
May 16th, 2007 at 2:22 amYeah, this from the people that think Al Gore won the election. Complain and whine and call everyone else names
Comment by Eric — May 15, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
In a democracy, the candidate with the most votes win (that was Gore). But being *appointed* sure does make it easier when you’re a fascist like yourself that doesn’t believe in democracy.
May 16th, 2007 at 2:23 amHere in Nevada we have a lame duck governor that is up to his ears in alligators. Really no one listens to him.
May 16th, 2007 at 9:53 amWasn’t it Reagan 49, Dukakis 1? Glory days……..
Eric doesn’t know history.
Comments by Eric —
You’re right, Eric; you don’t know even very recent history. Reagan ran against Carter in 1980, Mondale in 1984. Dukakis ran against George H.W. Bush in 1988. Dukakis won in 10 states and the District of Columbia. Look it up, boy!
May 17th, 2007 at 1:36 am