Comments on: Gonzales Throws McNulty Under The Bus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:15:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: bcg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3807934 bcg Thu, 17 May 2007 02:56:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3807934 OK. So, now, McNulty is another candidate for use imunity. There are bigger fish to fry and whatever fuel he can add should be welcome. Equally important, McNulty's testimony should provide a check on whatever Goodling has to say. If there's an inconsistency, one of them will have to have violatd the terms of their immunity and become liable for the crimes they've worked so hard to conceal. At the very least, this would produce additional leverage for honest testimony. OK. So, now, McNulty is another candidate for use imunity. There are bigger fish to fry and whatever fuel he can add should be welcome.
Equally important, McNulty’s testimony should provide a check on whatever Goodling has to say. If there’s an inconsistency, one of them will have to have violatd the terms of their immunity and become liable for the crimes they’ve worked so hard to conceal. At the very least, this would produce additional leverage for honest testimony.

]]> By: Mindy Block http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3807257 Mindy Block Wed, 16 May 2007 21:31:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3807257 Did you also catch the inference that the performance issue was: not meeting up to White House expectations as to prosecution priorities, rather than being competant at a job. Did you also catch the inference that the performance issue was: not meeting up to White House expectations as to prosecution priorities, rather than being competant at a job.

]]> By: John http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3806435 John Wed, 16 May 2007 16:38:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3806435 So, let me get this straight. People got legally fired when they failed to perform their jobs to the satisfaction of their superiors. They got bitter and manufactured a scandal. This poor sap doesn't roll over and play dead for his political assassins, employing every means of self defense at his disposal. And now you all want to impeach Bush. Ummm... Oh kay...... Yea, this is the kind of thinking I want in our nation's leaders. So, let me get this straight. People got legally fired when they failed to perform their jobs to the satisfaction of their superiors. They got bitter and manufactured a scandal. This poor sap doesn’t roll over and play dead for his political assassins, employing every means of self defense at his disposal. And now you all want to impeach Bush.

Ummm… Oh kay…… Yea, this is the kind of thinking I want in our nation’s leaders.

]]> By: nikolai http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3805999 nikolai Wed, 16 May 2007 13:25:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3805999 Chongo! Chongo!

]]> By: Frances http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3805638 Frances Wed, 16 May 2007 04:59:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3805638 I sucked in air through my teeth when I saw that. AGAG sticks a knife in his deputy's back the moment he's turned it. I don't know what this is doing for the reputation of public office, but I can't possibly imagine it's anything good. If you lied so pervasively and so blatantly to your boss about responsibilities that were clearly yours and you refuse to take any blame or 'didn't recall' something that was your job to recall, how long do you think you'd still be in your job? Nobody who has to work for a living gets away with this shocking level of incompetence. On top of that it is the most disingenious and dishonorable display I have ever seen. I would not eat at Gonzales' table, I would not accept a drink from him. The only reason he is still there is because he is the lightning rod through which a whole lot of anger passes. And while he's doing that The Rove very carefully removes anything that could stick to him from the record. That this administration behaves like that is outrageous, but it is the standard they have set, we should not expect anything more. But that the public does not rise in revolt at being so blatantly, shamelessly and corrosively lied to, without going to the reflecting pond in DC in their hundreds of thousands in silent protest is even more outrageous. The rich are shifting all the wealth in the country from the working people to the top 1% and now they're not even bothering to cover their lies anymore. They just couldn't care less about what the public thinks of them. I'd say just about now, a revolution would be in order. It's long overdue. I sucked in air through my teeth when I saw that. AGAG sticks a knife in his deputy’s back the moment he’s turned it.

I don’t know what this is doing for the reputation of public office, but I can’t possibly imagine it’s anything good. If you lied so pervasively and so blatantly to your boss about responsibilities that were clearly yours and you refuse to take any blame or ‘didn’t recall’ something that was your job to recall, how long do you think you’d still be in your job?

Nobody who has to work for a living gets away with this shocking level of incompetence. On top of that it is the most disingenious and dishonorable display I have ever seen. I would not eat at Gonzales’ table, I would not accept a drink from him.

The only reason he is still there is because he is the lightning rod through which a whole lot of anger passes. And while he’s doing that The Rove very carefully removes anything that could stick to him from the record.

That this administration behaves like that is outrageous, but it is the standard they have set, we should not expect anything more. But that the public does not rise in revolt at being so blatantly, shamelessly and corrosively lied to, without going to the reflecting pond in DC in their hundreds of thousands in silent protest is even more outrageous.

The rich are shifting all the wealth in the country from the working people to the top 1% and now they’re not even bothering to cover their lies anymore. They just couldn’t care less about what the public thinks of them. I’d say just about now, a revolution would be in order. It’s long overdue.

]]> By: Com-n-sense http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3805224 Com-n-sense Wed, 16 May 2007 00:54:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3805224 They just don't get any lower ... these people have no shame, none,- Nada, zilch, zero ... which might be the secret to their success. No one of decent mind would ever think anyone could be this low and rise to such high power. But they have. One of the true mysteries that I'm sure some exterrestrial arthropologist might ponder as he digs up our ruins. They just don’t get any lower … these people have no shame, none,- Nada, zilch, zero … which might be the secret to their success.

No one of decent mind would ever think anyone could be this low and rise to such high power.

But they have.

One of the true mysteries that I’m sure some exterrestrial arthropologist might ponder as he digs up our ruins.

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3804153 Devil's Advocate Tue, 15 May 2007 18:48:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3804153 Scroll by the trolls, people! Scroll by the trolls, people!

]]> By: AG SandBag http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803945 AG SandBag Tue, 15 May 2007 18:10:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803945 <em>#30 TripMaster reply Because as long as he occupies the position, we can’t have a real AG who can let these other investigations go forward. </em><em>In essence, as long as Alberto is still AG, no other actions can be taken. Basically, he’s running out the clock on behalf of Chimpy & Co. </em><em>Congress needs to impeach and remove Alberto post haste, to remove this impediment to justice.</em> well, I agree with "not letting investigation move forward", as far "impeach" goes am very skeptical. only positive point I see out of these for us is we'll have lot of laughs from these like this http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/05/15/jon-stewart-exposes-the-bullht-ongoing-investigation-excuse/ by Stewart #30 TripMaster reply
Because as long as he occupies the position, we can’t have a real AG who can let these other investigations go forward.
In essence, as long as Alberto is still AG, no other actions can be taken. Basically, he’s running out the clock on behalf of Chimpy & Co.
Congress needs to impeach and remove Alberto post haste, to remove this impediment to justice.

well, I agree with “not letting investigation move forward”, as far “impeach” goes am very skeptical.

only positive point I see out of these for us is we’ll have lot of laughs from these like this http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/05/15/jon-stewart-exposes-the-bullht-ongoing-investigation-excuse/ by Stewart

]]> By: Tweedster http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803885 Tweedster Tue, 15 May 2007 17:57:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803885 Hits, you should rearrange your handle bud. Here's a hint, it'll end with h-i-t Hits, you should rearrange your handle bud.

Here’s a hint, it’ll end with h-i-t

]]> By: Some Guy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803644 Some Guy Tue, 15 May 2007 17:16:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803644 <em>Gonzales responded, “Well again you have to remember at the end of the day, the recommendations reflected the views of the Deputy Attorney General. He signed off on the names and he would know better than anyone else.” </em>I'm sure they will Mr. Gonzalez, I'm sure they will. Gonzales responded, “Well again you have to remember at the end of the day, the recommendations reflected the views of the Deputy Attorney General. He signed off on the names and he would know better than anyone else.”

I’m sure they will Mr. Gonzalez, I’m sure they will.

]]> By: OleHippieChick http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803619 OleHippieChick Tue, 15 May 2007 17:09:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803619 K-reist. Of course it's perjury when you say "homma homma, I don't know," when you goddamned obviously DO know and you namedrop to the NPC, but not to Judiciary. It's frikkin insult to injury. The arrogant little wad is rubbing their noses in it. K-reist. Of course it’s perjury when you say “homma homma, I don’t know,” when you goddamned obviously DO know and you namedrop to the NPC, but not to Judiciary. It’s frikkin insult to injury. The arrogant little wad is rubbing their noses in it.

]]> By: OleHippieChick http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803591 OleHippieChick Tue, 15 May 2007 17:04:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803591 How high will be the levels of frikkin OUTRAGE of those on the House and Senate Judiciary Cmtees after Albatross Gonzo spills IN PUBLIC before the National Press Club what he wouldn't spill to the Committees UNDER OATH???? How high will be the levels of frikkin OUTRAGE of those on the House and Senate Judiciary Cmtees after Albatross Gonzo spills IN PUBLIC before the National Press Club what he wouldn’t spill to the Committees UNDER OATH????

]]> By: uhhuhhhh http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803550 uhhuhhhh Tue, 15 May 2007 16:57:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803550 Can someone comment on whether revelation of this information suggests or indicates that Gonzo perjured himself in his congressional testimony? Can someone comment on whether revelation of this information suggests or indicates that Gonzo perjured himself in his congressional testimony?

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803537 Evil Spaniard Tue, 15 May 2007 16:55:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803537 Gonzales is like a drop of blood in a pool of (republican) sharks, now. Gonzales is like a drop of blood in a pool of (republican) sharks, now.

]]> By: Proud Dem http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803531 Proud Dem Tue, 15 May 2007 16:53:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803531 <em>(By the way, I love the acronym. I would choose to pronounce it A-GAG. Great pun on a couple of levels.) Comment by NCBlueneck </em> I'm hearing it as ag-ag, the sound you make when you puke. (By the way, I love the acronym. I would choose to pronounce it A-GAG. Great pun on a couple of levels.)

Comment by NCBlueneck

I’m hearing it as ag-ag, the sound you make when you puke.

]]> By: chimpeach http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803510 chimpeach Tue, 15 May 2007 16:51:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803510 #65 Hits <em>Oh, and by the way, the President was elected by a majority of the people of this country. So, whether you like him or not, you don’t really have a choice - other than relinquishing your citizenship and living in France or Mexico or Afghanistan, maybe?</em> The Democratic party was given control of both houses of Congress in the most recent election. Apparently, the voters don't like the idea of Bush running things without a co-equal branch of government pulling in the reins on him and investigating the crap he's been pulling for the last six years. Don't like it? Leave. #65 Hits

Oh, and by the way, the President was elected by a majority of the people of this country. So, whether you like him or not, you don’t really have a choice – other than relinquishing your citizenship and living in France or Mexico or Afghanistan, maybe?

The Democratic party was given control of both houses of Congress in the most recent election. Apparently, the voters don’t like the idea of Bush running things without a co-equal branch of government pulling in the reins on him and investigating the crap he’s been pulling for the last six years. Don’t like it? Leave.

]]> By: Blue Tarp Nation/Fla http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803502 Blue Tarp Nation/Fla Tue, 15 May 2007 16:49:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803502 I guess that catch phrase, "At the end of the day" really means "Pass the Buck" in Gonzo speak. I wouldn't hire Big Al to defend a parking ticket. Incompetence personified! How's this for a catch phrase, "The fish rots from the head down!" And the voters can smell the stench. I guess that catch phrase, “At the end of the day” really means “Pass the Buck” in Gonzo speak. I wouldn’t hire Big Al to defend a parking ticket. Incompetence personified! How’s this for a catch phrase, “The fish rots from the head down!” And the voters can smell the stench.

]]> By: chimpeach http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803496 chimpeach Tue, 15 May 2007 16:48:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803496 #63 Hits <em>McNulty quit because of McNulty, not because of Gonzales. Get over the fretting and the whining. Gonzales hasn’t done anything wrong and he has the support of the President. Period!</em> Are you a real assclown or just a parody of one? Gonzales has repeatedly lied to Congress and covered up illegal activities. The president is complicit and has a long list of crimes all his own. Throw them both in the slammer. Exclamation point! #63 Hits

McNulty quit because of McNulty, not because of Gonzales. Get over the fretting and the whining. Gonzales hasn’t done anything wrong and he has the support of the President. Period!

Are you a real assclown or just a parody of one?

Gonzales has repeatedly lied to Congress and covered up illegal activities. The president is complicit and has a long list of crimes all his own. Throw them both in the slammer. Exclamation point!

]]> By: Mr. Bush Goes To Hell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803492 Mr. Bush Goes To Hell Tue, 15 May 2007 16:47:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803492 Gonzo LIED to Congress about his involvement, first saying "NONE" and then SOME, but I DON'T REMEMBER. If the firings were carried out to disrupt trials and indictments, then he HAS done something wrong. OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. And Karl Rove needs to be put UNDER OATH. Bush REFUSING to let Rove go UNDER OATH is like <strong>Bush and Cheney REFUSING TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH TO THE 9/11 Commission.</strong> And TRAITOR Reagan (Iran/Contra) and Clinton (Monica) have testified UNDER OATH, and so "executive privilege" is NOT valid here. Gonzo is a TRAITOR and SO AM I. See YOU in hell "hits" (cause I'LL be THERE), <strong> Mr. Bush MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM--BushCrimeCo, Inc.)</strong> Gonzo LIED to Congress about his involvement, first saying “NONE” and then SOME, but I DON’T REMEMBER.

If the firings were carried out to disrupt trials and indictments, then he HAS done something wrong.

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

And Karl Rove needs to be put UNDER OATH.

Bush REFUSING to let Rove go UNDER OATH is like

Bush and Cheney REFUSING TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH TO THE 9/11 Commission.

And TRAITOR Reagan (Iran/Contra) and Clinton (Monica) have testified UNDER OATH, and so “executive privilege” is NOT valid here.

Gonzo is a TRAITOR and SO AM I.

See YOU in hell “hits” (cause I’LL be THERE),


Mr. Bush
MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo, Inc.)

]]> By: Hits http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/comment-page-2/#comment-3803469 Hits Tue, 15 May 2007 16:33:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzales-mcnulty/#comment-3803469 Oh, and by the way, the President was elected by a majority of the people of this country. So, whether you like him or not, you don't really have a choice - other than relinquishing your citizenship and living in France or Mexico or Afghanistan, maybe? Oh, and by the way, the President was elected by a majority of the people of this country. So, whether you like him or not, you don’t really have a choice – other than relinquishing your citizenship and living in France or Mexico or Afghanistan, maybe?

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