Comments on: Gonzales misses deadline to submit Rove emails. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:20:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805873 Evil Spaniard Wed, 16 May 2007 11:49:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805873 To the cooler with him! To the cooler with him!

]]> By: Choclate Jesus loves anulingus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805805 Choclate Jesus loves anulingus Wed, 16 May 2007 07:21:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805805 Right and the information they were seeking from Reno came out during her boss's impeachement...heres hoping history repeats itself.. Right and the information they were seeking from Reno came out during her boss’s impeachement…heres hoping history repeats itself..

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805368 big papa Wed, 16 May 2007 03:14:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805368 Okay mongo #78 ...glad you're on our side... ...wasn't sure in #74 (hence my #76)... ...I DESPISE Bushite inbreds... Okay mongo #78

…glad you’re on our side…

…wasn’t sure in #74 (hence my #76)…

…I DESPISE Bushite inbreds…

]]> By: mongo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805346 mongo Wed, 16 May 2007 02:57:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805346 "Not sure if you meant that comment above as a “gotcha” comeback, “THEY did it too” moment… …but… …if what you say is true (please provide proof)…" Janet Reno was found in Contempt of Congress in August 1998 for refusing to turn over Department of Justice memos related to investigation of Clinton-Gore 1996 campaign-financing abuses. This is sufficient information for you to verify it for yourself. Not meant as a "gotcha", just an observation - and an admonition to the democratic majority to *use* the power they have in the pursuit of justice and oversight against this administration. "…then… …ONCE AGAIN the Republicans FAILED the American people… …by NOT prosecuting Janet Reno to the fullest extent of the law for such a transgression…" The documents she was held in contempt over were ultimately released during the clinton impeachment, so no legal action ended up being pursued against her. Contempt of congress citations usually don't end up with legal action, they've been historically very successful motivators in getting the requested material released, one way or another. However, there have also been cases like that of EPA official Rita Lavelle in the reagan administration, who was convicted of lying to congress, sent to prison and fined. Either result would be fine with me: gonzo hands the rope to hang himself to Leahy, or he goes straight to jail for the lying to congress he's already done. “Not sure if you meant that comment above as a “gotcha” comeback, “THEY did it too” moment…

…but…

…if what you say is true (please provide proof)…”

Janet Reno was found in Contempt of Congress in August 1998 for refusing to turn over Department of Justice memos related to investigation of Clinton-Gore 1996 campaign-financing abuses. This is sufficient information for you to verify it for yourself.

Not meant as a “gotcha”, just an observation – and an admonition to the democratic majority to *use* the power they have in the pursuit of justice and oversight against this administration.

“…then…

…ONCE AGAIN the Republicans FAILED the American people…

…by NOT prosecuting Janet Reno to the fullest extent of the law for such a transgression…”

The documents she was held in contempt over were ultimately released during the clinton impeachment, so no legal action ended up being pursued against her.

Contempt of congress citations usually don’t end up with legal action, they’ve been historically very successful motivators in getting the requested material released, one way or another.

However, there have also been cases like that of EPA official Rita Lavelle in the reagan administration, who was convicted of lying to congress, sent to prison and fined.

Either result would be fine with me: gonzo hands the rope to hang himself to Leahy, or he goes straight to jail for the lying to congress he’s already done.

]]> By: prantha trivedi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805303 prantha trivedi Wed, 16 May 2007 02:17:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805303 He complied. There are no Rove emails. He complied. There are no Rove emails.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805264 big papa Wed, 16 May 2007 01:38:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805264 ...no response... ...(pokes stick in mongo's carcass)... ...yeah, it's done... …no response…

…(pokes stick in mongo’s carcass)…

…yeah, it’s done…

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805230 big papa Wed, 16 May 2007 01:04:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805230 Not sure if this was meant sarcastically, as Janet Reno *was* held in contempt of congress by the republicans in 1998. Comment by mongo #74 Not sure if you meant that comment above as a "gotcha" comeback, "THEY did it too" moment... ...but... ...if what you say is true (please provide proof)... ...then... ...ONCE AGAIN the Republicans FAILED the American people... ...by NOT prosecuting Janet Reno to the fullest extent of the law for such a transgression... ...WE the PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL Patriots of America... ...have NO intention of allowing our Democratic leaders to allow that to be the case... ...in the matter of Alberto Gonzales and Karl Rove... ...THEY WILL be prosecuted... ...or ELSE! Not sure if this was meant sarcastically, as Janet Reno *was* held in contempt of congress by the republicans in 1998.

Comment by mongo #74

Not sure if you meant that comment above as a “gotcha” comeback, “THEY did it too” moment…

…but…

…if what you say is true (please provide proof)…

…then…

…ONCE AGAIN the Republicans FAILED the American people…

…by NOT prosecuting Janet Reno to the fullest extent of the law for such a transgression…

…WE the PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL Patriots of America…

…have NO intention of allowing our Democratic leaders to allow that to be the case…

…in the matter of Alberto Gonzales and Karl Rove…

…THEY WILL be prosecuted…

…or ELSE!

]]> By: mongo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805223 mongo Wed, 16 May 2007 00:51:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805223 "Imagine how [republicans] would have reacted had Janet Reno ignored a subpoena to turn over important papers… Comment by Englischlehrer" Not sure if this was meant sarcastically, as Janet Reno *was* held in contempt of congress by the republicans in 1998. “Imagine how [republicans] would have reacted had Janet Reno ignored a subpoena to turn over important papers…

Comment by Englischlehrer”

Not sure if this was meant sarcastically, as Janet Reno *was* held in contempt of congress by the republicans in 1998.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805030 big papa Tue, 15 May 2007 23:18:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805030 Alberto MUST be... ...DISBARRED... ...then... ...DEPORTED... ...even if he was born in this country... ...AFTER we take his personal assets... ...to help pay for the war effort of course... Alberto MUST be…

…DISBARRED…

…then…

…DEPORTED…

…even if he was born in this country…

…AFTER we take his personal assets…

…to help pay for the war effort of course…

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3805015 Marie Tue, 15 May 2007 23:07:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3805015 Grab your pitchforks and your torches, get ready to storm the White House. Throw the bums out. We will operate by Speaker of the House in the interim. Grab your pitchforks and your torches, get ready to storm the White House.
Throw the bums out.
We will operate by Speaker of the House in the interim.

]]> By: puddin' tane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804921 puddin' tane Tue, 15 May 2007 22:34:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804921 Yes, in the literal sense it is "contempt of congress" and has been since the beginning, in the sense that bushco is clearly running a cover-up/ stonewall operation. Absent a formal declaration however, we're still waiting. It's not uncommon for these sort of subpeona demands to be given a few hours or even a few days leeway, actually. But given the fact that the DOJ has yet to provide any excuse for non-compliance it would seem that they simply CAN'T turn over the emails without compromising the WH. That's precisely why Abu still has not resigned. It's possible the Dems want this current news cycle to concentrate on the resignation of McNulty and todays "race to the hospital" as told by Comey. This deadline thing is just gravy, a trump card they can hold until any day they choose now. Yes, in the literal sense it is “contempt of congress” and has been since the beginning, in the sense that bushco is clearly running a cover-up/ stonewall operation. Absent a formal declaration however, we’re still waiting. It’s not uncommon for these sort of subpeona demands to be given a few hours or even a few days leeway, actually. But given the fact that the DOJ has yet to provide any excuse for non-compliance it would seem that they simply CAN’T turn over the emails without compromising the WH. That’s precisely why Abu still has not resigned. It’s possible the Dems want this current news cycle to concentrate on the resignation of McNulty and todays “race to the hospital” as told by Comey. This deadline thing is just gravy, a trump card they can hold until any day they choose now.

]]> By: OxyCon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804864 OxyCon Tue, 15 May 2007 22:18:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804864 Remember, Gone-zo serves for President Bush's personal pleasure. Remember, Gone-zo serves for President Bush’s personal pleasure.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804854 big papa Tue, 15 May 2007 22:15:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804854 I REALLY don't see how... ...a Constitutional showdown can be avoided at this point... ...now we find out who the REAL TRAITORS are... ..."MOUNT UP!" I REALLY don’t see how…

…a Constitutional showdown can be avoided at this point…

…now we find out who the REAL TRAITORS are…

…”MOUNT UP!”

]]> By: Englischlehrer http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804775 Englischlehrer Tue, 15 May 2007 21:44:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804775 Seriously, what a slap in the face! The Repubs spent 40 million or so investigating a blow job. Imagine how they would have reacted had Janet Reno ignored a subpoena to turn over important papers... Please go arrest AGAG, or we have no rule of law more... Seriously, what a slap in the face! The Repubs spent 40 million or so investigating a blow job. Imagine how they would have reacted had Janet Reno ignored a subpoena to turn over important papers… Please go arrest AGAG, or we have no rule of law more…

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804753 Marie Tue, 15 May 2007 21:38:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804753 Is this contempt of Congress? Gonzo must not be allowed to continue dissing the Senate. He could be impeached - he should be impeached. Is this contempt of Congress?
Gonzo must not be allowed to continue dissing the Senate. He could be impeached – he should be impeached.

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804685 Briseadh na Faire Tue, 15 May 2007 21:14:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804685 Whether or not Gonzales can be arrested, he can be IMPEACHED! Whether or not Gonzales can be arrested, he can be IMPEACHED!

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804656 Briseadh na Faire Tue, 15 May 2007 21:04:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804656 <em><blockquote>He should ignore supeona’s from a Congress that can’t read the Constitution. It is not against the law to fire U.S. Attornies. Comment by Patrick1 — May 15, 2007 @ 4:27 pm</blockquote></em> 1. You're advocating the top prosecutor of the United States to violate the law. 2. Non-sequitor and irrelevant. To my knowledge no one has claimed that it is illegal to fire U.S. Attorneys.
He should ignore supeona’s from a Congress that can’t read the Constitution. It is not against the law to fire U.S. Attornies.

Comment by Patrick1 — May 15, 2007 @ 4:27 pm

1. You’re advocating the top prosecutor of the United States to violate the law.

2. Non-sequitor and irrelevant. To my knowledge no one has claimed that it is illegal to fire U.S. Attorneys.

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804649 Briseadh na Faire Tue, 15 May 2007 21:02:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804649 Gonzales to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy: (choose one, or more, from the following list) <blockquote>I forgot. I don't remember forgetting. I remember something to the effect that at one time I saw the request, but I cannot recall the specifics of the request. I thought I gave all that stuff to you with the last batch of stuff I didn't give to you. Oh, <em>that</em> Karl Rove? The server ate my e-mails. The e-mails are in the mail.</blockquote> Gonzales to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy:
(choose one, or more, from the following list)

I forgot.

I don’t remember forgetting.

I remember something to the effect that at one time I saw the request, but I cannot recall the specifics of the request.

I thought I gave all that stuff to you with the last batch of stuff I didn’t give to you.

Oh, that Karl Rove?

The server ate my e-mails.

The e-mails are in the mail.

]]> By: NTB http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804642 NTB Tue, 15 May 2007 20:58:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804642 Unfortunately, this subpoena was issued by the Senate Judiciary Committee, so a contempt citation would need to be brought before the floor of the Senate. Doesn't that mean it could be filibustered? I think we'll need to wait for the Administration to ignore one of the subpoenas from the House before a Sergeant-at-Arms is sent to arrest anyone. Unfortunately, this subpoena was issued by the Senate Judiciary Committee, so a contempt citation would need to be brought before the floor of the Senate. Doesn’t that mean it could be filibustered? I think we’ll need to wait for the Administration to ignore one of the subpoenas from the House before a Sergeant-at-Arms is sent to arrest anyone.

]]> By: KRank http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/comment-page-2/#comment-3804611 KRank Tue, 15 May 2007 20:49:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/15/gonzles-misses-deadline-to-submit-rove-emails/#comment-3804611 <em>He should ignore supeona’s from a Congress that can’t read the Constitution. It is not against the law to fire U.S. Attornies.</em> Comment by Patrick1 — May 15, 2007 @ 4:27 pm Does the same go for orders from a <em>President</em> who can't read the Constitution (and who couldn't understand it even if he DID read it?) Oh, and by the way, plurals of nouns do not take apostrophes. Bonehead. He should ignore supeona’s from a Congress that can’t read the Constitution. It is not against the law to fire U.S. Attornies.

Comment by Patrick1 — May 15, 2007 @ 4:27 pm

Does the same go for orders from a President who can’t read the Constitution (and who couldn’t understand it even if he DID read it?)

Oh, and by the way, plurals of nouns do not take apostrophes. Bonehead.

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