O’Reilly: Katie Couric’s Low Ratings Are ‘A Woman Thing’
O’Reilly: Katie Couric’s Low Ratings Are ‘A Woman Thing’
In the most recent ratings, Katie Couric’s CBS Evening News “had its worst performance since the Nielsen company installed its ‘people meter’ ratings system 20 years ago.”
Last night on The O’Reilly Factor, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly blamed CBS’s ratings on the fact that Couric is a woman. “I think it’s a woman thing,” O’Reilly said. “It’s an authority position. Most middle Americans who watch news feel comfortable with men in that position. That’s what’s going on.”
His guests, Kirsten Powers and Michelle Malkin, quickly disputed that statement. When Powers asked O’Reilly for proof, he simply stated, “I can prove it. Connie Chung, Barbara Walters, and now Katie Couric. It’s a woman’s thing.” Watch it:
Even CBS News president Sean McManus has tried to dismiss — without evidence — his network’s ratings by blaming women, instead of Couric or his station’s programming: “There is a percentage of people out there that probably prefers not to get their news from a woman.”
A recent Gallup poll found that Couric’s personal popularity lags behind NBC anchor Brian Williams and ABC anchor Charles Gibson. But that poll surveyed responses to Couric specifically, not to women anchors in general. Neither Connie Chung nor Barbara Walters were solo network news anchors.
Americans may not like Katie Couric, but that doesn’t mean they dislike all women in “authority” positions.
Transcript:
O’REILLY: How do you see it?
POWERS: When she came in they changed the format and they made it more like a morning news show. And it was a bad idea. And they made a mistake.
O’REILLY: All right. So they corrected that now, and she’s still getting hammered.
POWERS: She came in. It was already the lowest of the three.
O’REILLY: She is doing worse.
POWERS: I know, Bill. But the point is she didn’t inherit some really successful show.
O’REILLY: Is this a woman’s thing?
POWERS: I don’t think…
O’REILLY: Do you think a woman is going to be accepted in that role?
POWERS: I think it’s a Katie Couric thing. I don’t think it’s woman thing. I think that we have to see whether or not…
O’REILLY: I think it’s a woman thing.
POWERS: … she can — how can you prove that?
O’REILLY: Excellent question, Powers. I can prove it. Connie Chung, Barbara Walters, and now Katie Couric. It’s a woman’s thing.
Michelle, you’ve got 30 seconds. It’s an authority position. Most middle Americans who watch news feel comfortable with men in that position. That’s what’s going on. Go ahead.
MALKIN: I think it’s an information revolution thing. I think that how we get information has changed. And evening news in a 24/7 Internet age has become totally irrelevant.
O’REILLY: But she’s doing worse than the rest.
MALKIN: Because she’s a total fake and there’s nothing there.
O’REILLY: Michelle not going out to lunch with Katie any time soon.
Ladies, thanks very much.
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But it’s us on the left that are intolerant. Right valiantthehater?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:35 pmnow, if only Malkin could bite the dust ……dare to dream……
May 15th, 2007 at 2:37 pmYou sexist prick.Those are the days of the past.I just thought of something the repubs are still living in the 50s and those days are gone they will never be in charge again.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:37 pmThis is the kind of sh!t they were saying about the republican debate. “America wants men”
Any woman that would vote republican is a Stepford wife and has no thought process of their own. They are only baby makers and food preppers to these republican scum bags.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:37 pmit’s people like O’Reilly who have been working quite hard to “divide and conquer” everything that’s supposed to be good about this country.
Racist, sexist, war lovers. But, if you oppose bush or his wars – shaddup, right?
It’s people like O’Reilly, not us, that really hate America..
Some reading:
May 15th, 2007 at 2:38 pm“The America-Haters Strike Again”
http://www.populistamerica.com/the_america_haters_strike_again
Funny, here in France the women are the popular evening newsreaders . . .so I don’t think it’s a woman thing.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:38 pmCouric’s ratings have far less to to with her being a woman than they have to do with the programming on CBS.
Unless you like to watch CSI and some other less known programming, you aren’t likely to see advertisements for Couric’s program.
The TV at my place rarely lands on CBS anymore.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:42 pmWhat would O’Reilly know about women things?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:42 pmHow about being a lying enabler?
Speaking of which, how are your ratings trending, BillO?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:42 pmI gave up on CBS when they got rid of the news and put all their propaganda on Katie, the celebrity, and News-Lite. Their ratings were high initially and then when we saw very little news and so much fluff, we turned it off. The young woman named Logan would be a better replacement.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:43 pmIt’s not a woman thing — it’s a Katie Couric thing.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:45 pmJeebus…
Funny, here in France the women are the popular evening newsreaders . . .so I don’t think it’s a woman thing.
Comment by Blanche
Maybe it’s jus a US thing!
May 15th, 2007 at 2:46 pmWhat misogynistic crap!
I personally watch Boston’s Natalie Jacobson.
When she and her husband / co-anchor got divorced, it was him they gave the boot to.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:46 pmI think Couric can make it in a number of ways. Malkin said “she’s a total fake and there’s nothing there.” Couric needs to settle in and stop looking as if she’s trying too hard. Perhaps giving her a sidekick, reducing the perkiness should do the trick. Heck, something’s gotta work.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:47 pmBut it’s us on the left that are intolerant. Right valiantthehater?
Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 15, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
how is this being intolerant? He is stating his opinion, is he not allowed to do this?
he put two women on and both disagreed with him. If he was being intolerant he would not have put on two women that completly disagreed with his opinion.
get a clue.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:47 pmre #5,
Yes, but when they’re as BEAUTIFULas Melissa Theuriau, who wouldn’t mind?
Purrrrrrrrrrr…
May 15th, 2007 at 2:48 pmO’Lielly’s antics are a batshit crazy thing. Make no mistake about it.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:48 pmI hate to say it, but I think O’Reilly has a point. People (men and women)in our society tend to have a bias toward male figures in positions of authority. It’s something we must look for in ourselves and try to correct. That doesn’t mean I am advocating watching Couric. She’s TOO RIGHT WING for me!
May 15th, 2007 at 2:48 pmSo then O’Reilly’s sinking numbers are a “Wo*man*” thing? Many might agree with that…
May 15th, 2007 at 2:48 pmThe TV at my place rarely lands on CBS anymore.
Comment by b40 — May 15, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Same here. Except substitute “rarely” with never!
I’m not a huge fan of Couric but it’s definitely not because she’s female that I don’t watch her!
For ex. Christiane Amanpour is someone I respect highly.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:49 pmYou sexist prick.Those are the days of the past.I just thought of something the repubs are still living in the 50s and those days are gone they will never be in charge again.
Comment by Lano — May 15, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Typical poorly educated fool, paint all Republicans with one broad brush.
Here is a clue, I am a Republican and I 100% disagree with what O’Reilly said last night of why Couric is failing so miserably.
couric is failing because she has no personality, she is not genuine and she just doesn’t have it. It has nothing to do with being a woman.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:49 pmSince when are news readers authority figures?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:49 pmTalking heads, whether male or female, are only corporate meat puppets. The copy they read is just verbal crap placed between commercials for prescription drugs for the diseases and pains brought on by the effects of watching too much television in the first place. shows.
Wake up America! Throw away your TVs
he put two women on and both disagreed with him. If he was being intolerant he would not have put on two women that completly disagreed with his opinion. get a clue. Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
BAHAHA, that’s your definition of *tolerant*? Maybe you think you’re tolerant, because you post bigoted sh*t on a website where people disagree with you? Spoken like a true racist bigot – you hateful piece of sh*t.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:49 pmKatie waltz’s in with her own staff and demand’s a fluffy salary (higher than the other two top experienced anchors), and currently isn’t delivering for what they pay her. She was offered $20 million to remain on ‘Today.’ Why didn’t she stay put?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pmIf he was being intolerant he would not have put on two women that completly disagreed with his opinion.
Comment by Valiantthehater
Like the time he said: Cut her mike?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pmIt does not occur to Malkin that she is a woman….then again, what she knows of the world (much less biology and behavioural psychology) couldn’t fill a paper bag.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:51 pmI’ve never understood why Americans elevate their newsreaders to the status they enjoy. Why waste so much time and effort on these over-paid, self-important bingo callers?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:52 pmI don’t get it, so how many recipes can she do over an entire nightly news broadcast?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:52 pmcouric is failing because she has no personality, she is not genuine and she just doesn’t have it. It has nothing to do with being a woman.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Which is completely different that what VTH said a few days back
Welp, she should be barefoot, pregnant, and servicing her man, as should all the high class leftard ho’s
May 15th, 2007 at 2:53 pmIt’s not a woman thing — it’s a Katie Couric thing.
Jeebus…
Comment by Zooey
No kidding, she will never be even half the reporter Dan Rather was.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:53 pmCouric was a daytime fluff reporter and now on the Evening News, she still acts like a daytime fluff reporter. That IS the problem.
Katie Couric isn’t an “authority figure.” She has to answer to someone like Williams and Gibson.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:54 pmhe put two women on and both disagreed with him. If he was being intolerant he would not have put on two women that completly disagreed with his opinion. get a clue. Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
BAHAHA, that’s your definition of *tolerant*? Maybe you think you’re tolerant, because you post bigoted sh*t on a website where people disagree with you? Spoken like a true racist bigot – you hateful piece of sh*t.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 15, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
and VVGFU says….”Blah, blah, blah…I hate you because you don’t think like I do…blah, blah, blah….piece of shit….blah, blah, blah, blah…….stupid c@nt…..blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..blah, blah, blah, blah……”
how pathetic of this individual.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:54 pmdelete “shows” typo in post 21. Katie, will you be my copy editor?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:55 pmMalkin — “She’s a total fake and there’s nothing there.”
I think Malkin just summed up her own mediocre career in a single sentence. If it weren’t for FoxSnooze’s need to prop up its editorial policy, Malkin would have no name-recognition at all. Same goes for Coulter.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:56 pmInteresting…I wonder how much of this was actually about Katie Couric, and how much was actually a roundabout attack on all women who aspire to positions of authority (read: Hillary)?
May 15th, 2007 at 2:56 pmIf he was being intolerant he would not have put on two women that completly disagreed with his opinion.
Comment by Valiantthehater
Like the time he said: Cut her mike?
Comment by Juan C — May 15, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Oh please Juan C, we know how you left wingers in Latin America treat women, like second class citizens. You should know, you are a left winger who treats women this way. Stop your fake outrage.
You embarrass our race.
May 15th, 2007 at 2:56 pmComment by Valiantthehater
You never like to answer straight questions, right? ;)
May 15th, 2007 at 2:58 pmI 100% disagree with what O’Reilly said last night of why Couric is failing so miserably.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
So you agree with O’Lielly that, “It’s an authority position. Most middle Americans who watch news feel comfortable with men in that position.”?
So then, how do you feel about Condi Rice negotiating/dictating to the world on your behalf?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:00 pmJuan treats me wonderfully……
;)
May 15th, 2007 at 3:02 pm35 & 36: Why don’t you exchange phone numbers to continue your little cat fught?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:02 pmYou embarrass our race.
Comment by Valiantthehaterbater — May 15, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
But then (s)he calls high class progressive women “ho’s”!
Oh, the irony.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:03 pmoops – looks like I read that wrong! my bad.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:03 pmKatie Couric has low ratings because shes a whore for the Repukes.
And everybody knows it.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:03 pmNice to see you are taking my advice and just posting blah blah blah, because that is all your words are worth.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:03 pmNo, they are like Daryll and only like to answer the gay questions.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:04 pmWhat would O’Reilly know about women things?
Well, he uses a vibrator on himself.
Maybe he plays dress-up with Trudy Giuliani.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:05 pmI think most “repubs” are racist,and sexist for the most part.I think all of them could care less about anything other than the white males(that’s not the new america)we accept all, I think a woman can handle just as much power as a male.You can play that Im not racist card if you want but you are inside you hate to see gays make it you hate to see woman in power you hate to see all who are not repub do better with there life.You guys suck.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:05 pmMichelle Malcunt hates illegal immigrants.
But she’s an “anchor baby” herself.
And her daddy was here without a green card.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:06 pmJuan treats me wonderfully……
;)
Comment by trueblue
No, I dont. :(
I should have answered your mail about Tunick.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:07 pmBut then (s)he calls high class progressive women “ho’sâ€!
Oh, the irony.
Comment by DRxJ
Oh, but thats fine. And he will confuse moral values with race. So I guess, I should better start thinking like him…or I wont be a mapuche/italian again!!!
May 15th, 2007 at 3:10 pmCouric was popular on the Today show (morning, informational, talkshow). I don’t think it is a woman thing regarding her unpopularity or low ratings as an evening newscaster. I think her popularity didn’t cross over. Different audiences – morning talk show vs. evening news. Light hearted, laugh alot, celebrity interviews, consumer reports vs. serious straight-forward hard news and fact reports (or at least that’s what newscasts should be).
Her style didn’t change. They made a mistake trying to have her keep the same image with a similar format.
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=517&num=10942
They tried to make a ‘harder-edged’ Couric reporting the ‘hard news’. I don’t think it’s in her personality to do so or maybe the audience can’t perceive her in that role.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIt didn’t require an answer.
Just sent it for fun.
Everything’s cool.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:11 pm:)
Katie Couric is useless; hence the low ratings.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:13 pmEverything’s cool.
:)
Comment by trueblue
Thank you. ;)
But Im in debt. I will send some pictures.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:13 pmIf all it takes is calling this loser something and they will accept it as their screen name, I suggest that we just call him DumbFu*k from now on.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:13 pmHas Couric traveled much, done stories abroad during her CBS tenure thus far? If not, perhaps more of that could help her standing.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:14 pmHere This Is The News & Knowing That This Is The News Who Want’s To Watch It?
US Health System Ranks Last Compared to Other Countries: Studies
LINK: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/ushealthgovernmentpolitics;_ylt=Au11pd4VVlQRXXuXGKfLJR1hr7sF
See my point there?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:15 pmwhatever-
They tried to make a ‘harder-edged’ Couric reporting the ‘hard news’. I don’t think it’s in her personality to do so or maybe the audience can’t perceive her in that role.
Right, because she’s a woman.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pmBut if Couric isn’t willing to self-improve like other anchors (Read: Tom Brokaw) who’ve had their rough spots, then maybe she should be replaced after the November 2008 elections. I can’t imagine her on GMA, though.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:17 pmEverything’s cool.
:)
Comment by trueblue
Thank you. ;)
But Im in debt. I will send some pictures.
Comment by Juan C — May 15, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Oy, so beautiful…..
May 15th, 2007 at 3:18 pm**sniff**
#20 ~ do you watch O’Reilly?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:19 pmRight, because she’s a woman.
Comment by squegeebooo — May 15, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Uh, no, it’s because it’s her personality. Bigot.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:20 pmI think less people are watching evening news because it is ALL fluff. If you want to see the real issues are you going to get it on the networks? I don’t think so. Better to read the crawl on CNN and not listen to anything. It is interesting to see what doesn’t make it from the crawl to a news story.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:20 pmNoooo!
Not Yenta!
May 15th, 2007 at 3:21 pmand VVGFU says….â€Blah, blah, blah…I hate you because you don’t think like I do…blah, blah, blah….piece of shit….blah, blah, blah, blah…….stupid c@nt…..blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..blah, blah, blah, blah……â€
how pathetic of this individual.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
As this post shows, pure projection. You’re definitely a pathetic individual. Not to mention a bigot, a racist and a fool.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:22 pmOy, so beautiful…..
**sniff**
Comment by Yenta — May 15, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
I think you’re too emotional for your job. Pull yourself together!
May 15th, 2007 at 3:22 pmThe reason why Couric has no credibility is because she doesn’t do any serious journalism.
Yesterday when I got home, the news was on and there was Couric. They were doing a piece how products are being marketed to younger and younger kids to brain wash them into being consumers before they can talk. They showed how characters are used to sell things like Hummers (yes, you read that correctly) and crap that kids don’t need or want.
Then they introduce the interviewee from some group that is against the out of control marketing and Katie Couric lets fly with this as her first question:
“What is wrong with Shrek pushing kids to exercise?”
So, she spun the interview to attack the lady to protect her corporate interests to make marketing to kids as young as 1 years old as a good thing.
Exercise was never even mentioned in the run up to the interview, only products, because that IS what the story is about.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:23 pmAuthority? The “news” has become a freaking circus… just look at that picture at the top of this post… Those days are long gone.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:23 pmCBS used to be the network of Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather.
Real journalists who got their hands dirty doing news in the field.
Both Cronkite and Rather cut their teeth as war correspondents.
Now, we have Katie Couric, a vacant-headed Repuke ho with pearls.
CBS News has gone straight to hell.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:24 pmWhat’s the percentage of kept women who vote Republican?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:24 pmValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Uh, no, it’s because it’s her personality. Bigot.
Well maybe if she did more recipes her viewership would go up? Play to what you know and the such?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:25 pmThere have been hard-edged women journalists in the US since WW2.
But I seriously doubt any of the networks would make any of those tough dames an anchorwoman.
They would rather have a blonde ditz with pearls.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:25 pmIf katie would stop dressing like she’s going to a funeral perhaps her ratings would improve. Unlike the Today Show she now only wears black. The news itself is depressing enough.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:25 pmRight, because she’s a woman.
Comment by squegeebooo
Squeegy, my love, I’d recognize your graceful style anywhere.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:26 pmHow have you been?
There aren’t any journalists in msm anchor positions anymore, regardless of gender, but I had to laugh at O’Rielly commeting on anyone’s credibilty. What a clown.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:27 pmI think it depends upon the woman. If Jessica Savitch had not died, she might well have been the first solo anchor and would probably have done very well. I think Linda Ellerbee also would have commanded respect in the role had she had the opportunity. For some reason, the networks pick women who just don’t have much gravitas (Barbara Walters just can’t speak clearly). But considering all the female anchors on cable, I think it’s a joke that a woman can’t anchor network. I just don’t think Katie Couric can.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:27 pmI don’t like Couric. I used to watch CBS with Dan Rather and after Dan Rather left, but I never watch Couric. Here are the main reasons:
Couric flirts with the camera
May 15th, 2007 at 3:28 pmCouric has no personality
Couric is not a journalist, and it shows
Noooo!
Not Yenta!
Comment by trueblue
Ya’ll are making me sick!!
I think you’re too emotional for your job. Pull yourself together!
Comment by Shane — May 15, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
I smacked her a good one. :P
May 15th, 2007 at 3:29 pmIt’s not that she’s a woman. Is that she’s a too-overpaid talentless FLIRT. Yes, she flirts with her guests. At least it appears that way.
It makes all the stories feel dirty. Like I’m watching it through some Desperate Housewives filter.
It’s not a woman thing. Women can give you the news. But Couric can’t. She sucks.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:29 pmZooey
Muffin, I’ve been great. I stopped by to help celebrate over Falwell, and couldn’t stop my self from spreading some snarkyness in this thread also.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:32 pmBut Couric can’t. She sucks.
Comment by Anonymous By Choice
Hopefully better…
May 15th, 2007 at 3:35 pmSqueegy,
I can see how today’s threads would be soooo tempting. :-)
May 15th, 2007 at 3:35 pmWell maybe if she did more recipes her viewership would go up? Play to what you know and the such? Comment by squegeebooo — May 15, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Maybe if you would stick to describing snuff films, your secret stash of S&M Religious Gay Porn (the passion) and talking about KKK rallies you’d get more support for your ideology?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:36 pmZooey
Muffin, I’ve been great. I stopped by to help celebrate over Falwell, and couldn’t stop my self from spreading some snarkyness in this thread also.
Comment by squegeebooo
…don’t make me get Yenta’s protege out here…
May 15th, 2007 at 3:37 pmI hate to say it, but maybe Oliely is right here. I don’t find it hard to believe that there are a bunch of sexist idiots out there that don’t want to hear women on the news. Aside from shows like the View that cater to women, why is it that women are unsuccessful as newscasters? Obviously enough are not hired, but maybe we still live in a sexist world that doesn’t want their news from a “chick”.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:39 pm…don’t make me get Yenta’s protege out here…
Comment by trueblue
:P
May 15th, 2007 at 3:41 pmis Malkin dissing us round-eyes in that photo? someone should smack the bitch…
May 15th, 2007 at 3:41 pmWeee! I knew she’d fail. Any news person who cheered the “shock and awe” campaign by blurting “NAVY SEALS ROCK!” needs to go back to school and grow up. Couric getting that job shows how pathetic MSM is to begin with, but to get the thumbs down from that shows she is not even capable of being part of the non-journalistic MSM machine.
Maybe she’ll take up modeling now since she still has her altered photo shoots to fall back on.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:41 pmWhen you stop giving a rat’s ass what O’fucko says then you might be getting somewhere. Worrying about what idiots say and do is not a productive pursuit.
May 15th, 2007 at 3:45 pmHopefully better…
Comment by Juan C — May 15, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
It’s a new career idea….
May 15th, 2007 at 3:45 pmwhatever-
They tried to make a ‘harder-edged’ Couric reporting the ‘hard news’. I don’t think it’s in her personality to do so or maybe the audience can’t perceive her in that role.
Right, because she’s a woman.
Comment by squegeebooo — May 15, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
My point is: She had an image developed on the Today show. Even Matt Lauer would have trouble in the spot she is in now as an evening newscaster. Different formats. Different styles. CBS tried to make the evening news something different – like a morning talk show. It didn’t work. It wouldn’t work for a man or a woman. It isn’t what is expected or wanted at least at this point in time by viewers.
Making a ‘harder edged’ Couric wasn’t because she was a woman. There are plenty of women newscasters out there that could deliver the news better than she could at this point. Plenty of field correspondents too. There are women newscasters in every major city reporting the news and correspondents out in the trenches bringing news live (and this doesn’t make them ‘man-like’). They chose Couric because people loved her – for who she was on the Today show. Couric had to get rid of that daytime, morning image she had and people grew to love (and once again NOT because she was a woman. The same people probably love Lauer’s ’soft’ morning edge too). The ‘harder edge’ is because of the content. Put Matt Lauer in there in the evening with the ’soft edged’ morning talk show style and see if he survives!
May 15th, 2007 at 3:53 pmvaliantthehater,
“how is this being intolerant?” To state that the show is failing because she has a vagina doens’t seem intolerant to you?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:54 pmwhat’s their explanation for 2/3’s of the morning news personnel being women? Women giving news are OK in the morning, but not in the evening – what kinda crap is that?
May 15th, 2007 at 3:59 pm.
whatever
My point is: …
Oh, I got your point, it was just to easy of a line not to go with.
Zooey
May 15th, 2007 at 4:00 pmMy hippy pals at work were surprised that I was the happiest over Falwell. But the death of any irrational intolerance (and it’s source) is always something to celebrate.
I stopped watching Couric when she had that lunatic Columbine parent ranting about how it is all MY fault that there is so much violence in the world. You know, ‘cuz I am a secular humanist and pro choice and all that evil stuff. She should have stuck to real news and stayed away from the right wing propaganda.
And I would love to see her replaced with Lara Logan, a woman who is passionate about real news and tells it like it is.
May 15th, 2007 at 4:02 pmsquegeebooo:
Oh, I thought you were really a troll. LOL
May 15th, 2007 at 4:06 pmwhat’s their explanation for 2/3’s of the morning news personnel being women? Women giving news are OK in the morning, but not in the evening – what kinda crap is that?
.
Comment by pluege — May 15, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
Where DO you live? You don’t have newscasters in the evening that are women where you live? Where do you get your statistics?
They chose the WRONG woman for the role, period. It wasn’t BECAUSE she was a woman that her ratings are low. GEEZ!!
May 15th, 2007 at 4:13 pmZooey
My hippy pals at work were surprised that I was the happiest over Falwell. But the death of any irrational intolerance (and it’s source) is always something to celebrate.
Comment by squegeebooo
Falwell was malignant. I couldn’t stand him. I’m not celebrating, but you won’t see me boo hooing either.
Don’t stay away so long, Squeeg!
May 15th, 2007 at 4:15 pmBetter get the Feminists to pass some more laws!
Feminists love Big Daddy Government!
Feminists are married to Big Daddy Government!
What cha’ gonna do when men aren’t around to help you anymore, Feminists?
May 15th, 2007 at 4:19 pmZooey
I’m not celebrating, but you won’t see me boo hooing either.
Well yah, thats because you have one of those things, what are they called? Oh yah, a heart.
Me on the other hand? No such issues.
Watever
May 15th, 2007 at 4:19 pmOh, I’m a troll. Just a different sort.
I used to watch the CBS evening news with Walter Cronkite. That was when they had NEWS on their news program. Now if you’re lucky you might get 5 minutes of news and 25 minutes of fluff.
May 15th, 2007 at 4:23 pmShe attacked Michael J. Fox.
May 15th, 2007 at 4:28 pmShe attacked John and Elizabeth Edwards.
All that Katie the Magic Pixie had going for her was her niceness. And she blew that in the worst way possible.
Progressives weren’t watching her anyway, but with that, the ordinary folks changed the channel.
does anyone have even an inkling as to what the hell johny(rotten) posted @ 97?????
Am I missing something? Need I lower my IQ to that of a dittohead to understand?
May 15th, 2007 at 4:30 pmBetter get the Feminists to pass some more laws!
Feminists love Big Daddy Government!
Feminists are married to Big Daddy Government!
What cha’ gonna do when men aren’t around to help you anymore, Feminists?
Comment by jonny
Waaaaaaahhh!! Where’s your binky, jonny?
We don’t need men to help us, we just need men to be our partners and for sex.
Real men, jonny, not men like you.
May 15th, 2007 at 4:31 pmAm I missing something? Need I lower my IQ to that of a dittohead to understand?
Comment by DRxJ
Jonny drops these turd bombs on threads having to do in some way with women, and then runs away like the tiny thing he is.
Please DRxJ, make no adjustments to your IQ for this whiny baby. :)
May 15th, 2007 at 4:33 pmWell yah, thats because you have one of those things, what are they called? Oh yah, a heart.
Me on the other hand? No such issues.
Comment by squegeebooo
Oh it’s in there, Squeegy, we just haven’t gotten to it yet.
May 15th, 2007 at 4:35 pmMaybe that’s why you stay away…..hmmmmm…
What cha’ gonna do when men aren’t around to help you anymore, Feminists?
Comment by jonny(jason misogynist hendler) — May 15, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Still holding that grudge for being voted most likely to never get laid by any woman, eh Jason?
May 15th, 2007 at 4:36 pmZooey
Oh it’s in there, Squeegy, we just haven’t gotten to it yet.
Maybe that’s why you stay away…..hmmmmm…
Nah, I stay away because otherwise I waste way to much time here during the work day, sort of a feast vs. famine kinda deal.
DRxJ
May 15th, 2007 at 4:40 pmActually, I think I won that vote.
Well, jonny, when women I know are getting rid of their man through divorce or breakup I give them a little gift to get them through the trauma of having no man around to “help” them anymore…
A stepladder to get to the high shelves they can’t reach
A good jar opener (Oxo is best)
And a v!brator
They are most appreciative!
May 15th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAnd a v!brator
They are most appreciative!
Comment by mikeandjeffsmom — May 15, 2007 @ 4:43 pm.
You do realize that you just made jonny (JMH) cream his jeans.
May 15th, 2007 at 4:50 pmAh well, hopefully the whinny little runt will be basking in the afterglow and soon be off in R.E.M., thus leaving this particular blog with, for the most part, adults
Nah, I stay away because otherwise I waste way to much time here during the work day, sort of a feast vs. famine kinda deal.
Comment by squegeebooo
I keep to The Liberal Agenda — no job. :-D
May 15th, 2007 at 4:56 pmThey are most appreciative!
Comment by mikeandjeffsmom
Fantastic!
*singing*
May 15th, 2007 at 4:58 pmThe sisters are doin’ it for themselves….!
Zooey
Yah, cause your in school, so I guess you get a pass…for now.
Also consider singing
May 15th, 2007 at 5:01 pmMoms got a squeeze box, dad dosn’t sleep at night
Zooey
Yah, cause your in school, so I guess you get a pass…for now.
Yes, I do. Aced my exams, and now I’m on summer break. Life is good. :)
Also consider singing
Moms got a squeeze box, dad dosn’t sleep at night
Comment by squegeebooo
Heh. A classic.
May 15th, 2007 at 5:04 pmThe whole debate is disgusting. It’s a trap to make Democrats take up a bad argument. Why is Kirsten Powers put in the position of defending Katie Couric while speaking as a “Democratic strategist”?? Katie Couric’s not the Democrats’ newscaster! Democrats as a bloc don’t have a dog in the anchor wars fight.
Since O’Reilly can’t win any debate on current issues, they’re changing the subject to something irrelevant.
May 15th, 2007 at 5:29 pmand VVGFU says….â€Blah, blah, blah…I hate you because you don’t think like I do…blah, blah, blah….piece of shit….blah, blah, blah, blah…….stupid c@nt…..blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..blah, blah, blah, blah……â€
how pathetic of this individual.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
As this post shows, pure projection. You’re definitely a pathetic individual. Not to mention a bigot, a racist and a fool.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 15, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
and VVGFU says, “Blah, blah, blah, blah….this is pure projection, you bigot….blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..you are pathetic……blah, blah, blah, blah, blah……you are a racist….blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah….you are a fool….blah, blah, blah, blah…….everyone that doesn’t agree with me is a c*nt…..blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but remember I as a Liberarl am very tolerant of oppossite view points…..blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..but are a racist, c*nt if you dare disagree with my point of views….blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…….”
too easy to make fun of the simple mind Liberals like VVGFU.
May 15th, 2007 at 5:46 pmtoo easy to make fun of the simple mind Liberals like VVGFU.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
Yet in doing so, you always manage to look st*pid doing so… Another find example of how you’re too st*pid to even see how st*pid you look. Very amusing!
May 15th, 2007 at 5:56 pmwith comments such as the ones made by o’lielly, it’s no wonder waaahhhpublican men have to pay to get laid.
May 15th, 2007 at 5:57 pmIt’s far from a “woman thing”. If they’d hired a woman who’d earned her chops, it would be a different story.
May 15th, 2007 at 6:20 pmIt’s all personality and cred. Katy just comes across as too light weight for the job.
too easy to make fun of the simple mind Liberals like VVGFU.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
Yet in doing so, you always manage to look st*pid doing so… Another find example of how you’re too st*pid to even see how st*pid you look. Very amusing!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 15, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
VVGFU says, “blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..you’re too stupid….blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I hate people that don’t agree with my Liberal ideology…..blah,blah, blah, blah…..”
some Liberals just make it way too easy…..
May 15th, 2007 at 6:26 pm…right wing suburban and rural “Soccer moms” and genteel southern/midwestern Belles…
…ARE some dumb bi*ches…
…who believe they aren’t as intelligent (or strong) as men…
…THEY are the ones who are aiding and abetting the fascist al Ceeracka white males…
…to perpetuate America’s descent into the abyss…
May 15th, 2007 at 6:28 pmVVGFU says, “blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..you’re too stupid….blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I hate people that don’t agree with my Liberal ideology…..blah,blah, blah, blah…..â€
some Liberals just make it way too easy…..
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 15, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
We do make it easy for you to be Jake*sses. Then again, you just do what comes natural to your redneck selves, don’t you child?
May 15th, 2007 at 6:49 pmWhy does ValianttheHater hate women, and call them hoes?
Why does ValianttheHater want to create a myspace profile to attract 14 year old boys, as stated May 9,2007 @ 11:12 pm
Why does ValianttheHater avoid actually discussing the subject of each thread, but instead attacks, attacks, and makes fun of handicapped children?
Why does ValianttheHater post under other names like j.j., and Jake?
Why does ValiantheHater never provide links to back up his absurd statements, like Hillareh Clinton is a known carpet-muncher
Comment by Valiantthehater – May 3rd, 2007 @ 2:45am
And finally, why do we engage ValianttheHater in any form of debate, when it’s clear that he/she/both are here to disrupt, not discuss?
Inquiry minds really don’t want to know!
May 15th, 2007 at 6:51 pmAnd finally, why do we engage ValianttheHater in any form of debate, when it’s clear that he/she/both are here to disrupt, not discuss?
Inquiry minds really don’t want to know!
Comment by ValianttheBater — May 15, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Same reasons cats play with their food…
May 15th, 2007 at 6:56 pm#112
So you are actually still in school? That explains alot.
May 15th, 2007 at 7:39 pm#122
i.e. you are really bored?
May 15th, 2007 at 7:42 pmSo you are actually still in school? That explains alot.
Comment by Tracy — May 15, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Umm, what exactly does that explain?
May 15th, 2007 at 8:32 pmThat someone can still achieve their goals of education, after putting their marriage and family first.
That a single mom, after succesfully raising her children, can still find the challenge of a college education to enhace her career.
Or more importantly, that you’re an ignoramus for even posting such a stupid arse comment.
Well, which is it, oh superiour tracy?????
#122 i.e. you are really bored? Comment by Tracy — May 15, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
No, but you’re really boring – you’re more of like a limp fish, than a mouse…
May 15th, 2007 at 8:33 pmi.e. you are really bored?
Comment by Tracy — May 15, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
Geez Friggin’ Louise.
May 15th, 2007 at 8:36 pmYou post like michael the stalker
Do you always have to end a statement with a question mark, or did you just suffer from a momentary lapse of dyslexia?
Next time:
i.e. are you really that bored?
Comment by ValianttheBater — May 15, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
Thank you. :-)
May 15th, 2007 at 9:06 pmI wouldn’t watch her on her morning show. I find “perky” to be annoying.
May 16th, 2007 at 1:08 amWhy don’t CBS hire that fat pig O’Donnell?
May 16th, 2007 at 7:05 amThis is much to do about nothing!!
The fact is Katie Couric is a n other far left
media person.
We need a good AMERICA FIRST person.
People are tired of the same old cairing & sharing
May 16th, 2007 at 8:14 amB.S.
Oh, it just couldn’t be that Katy doesn’t have a clue and the American public is getting wise to the network news programs as being nothing but government propaganda shows.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:51 amIts ironic that O’Reilly commented on this in the same idiotic way he comments on everything. He is truly a bone-head!
#126
So you are a cat posing as a human?
May 16th, 2007 at 10:02 am#125
Are you Zooey?
May 16th, 2007 at 10:06 amWhy does everyone always try to abstract things out to their “larger” significance. I don’t think it has anything to do with men versus women and who middle America prefers to get their news from; I think it’s personal. It’s not women anchors who are the problem; it Katie that’s the problem. It’s not that people have a problem with women; it’s that they have a problem with HER. She’s a creature.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:09 amYeah, it’s a woman problem. Has nothing to do with CBS News reporting becoming a joke and the barrage of fluff they’ve been pumping out on CBS-EN. No, it’s a vagina issue.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:27 amSo you are actually still in school? That explains alot.
Comment by Tracy — May 15, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Umm, what exactly does that explain?
That someone can still achieve their goals of education, after putting their marriage and family first.
That a single mom, after succesfully raising her children, can still find the challenge of a college education to enhace her career.
Or more importantly, that you’re an ignoramus for even posting such a stupid arse comment.
Well, which is it, oh superiour tracy?????
Comment by ValianttheBater —
I must concur with ValianttheBater. What does being in college actually explain? Perhaps that a person has the desire to learn something or needs a degree to get a better job/promotion but not much else. Certainly not the person’s age.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:59 amWhen I was in graduate school straight out of college, for example, there were students in some of my classes who were back in school after spending years in another career; some were even older than the teacher. My own mother started going to night school when I, her youngest, was in the last year of elementary school, and she graduated from junior college, with honors, at age 49.
Finally, though Zooey has been attending for the first time at age 40-something, from comparing the many posts I have read by both her and you, I can say that she writes a h-ll of a lot better than you–which is to say, she has a much better grasp of English spelling, grammar, etc.
Look, I’m as much inclined to believe that women are given short thrift by society at large.
But in Katie’s case, let’s not forget the fact that she’s lost credibility in parroting untruths and rumours as fact. Remember when she stated those rumours about Obama that were disproved by investigative journalism months before? (http://digg.com/politics/Katie_Couric_Repeats_Lies_and_Smears_Obama_Video)
Katie Couric lost her credibility just like Dan Rather lost his by relying on apparently bogus documents in a Texas National Guard story on Bush. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35531-2004Sep20.html)
Dan Rather ended up resigning. Maybe Katie should take a cue from his lead.
Loss of credibility can happen to anyone. Men AND women.
May 16th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI’m as much inclined to believe that women are given short thrift by society at large.
But in Katie’s case, let’s not forget the fact that she’s lost credibility in parroting untruths and rumours as fact. Remember when she stated those rumours about Obama that were disproved by investigative journalism months before? (http://digg.com/politics/Katie_Couric_Repeats_Lies_and_Smears_Obama_Video)
Katie Couric lost her credibility just like Dan Rather lost his by relying on apparently bogus documents in a Texas National Guard story on Bush. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35531-2004Sep20.html)
Dan Rather ended up resigning. Maybe Katie should take a cue from his lead.
Loss of credibility can happen to anyone. Men AND women.
May 16th, 2007 at 4:14 pm#138
Are you Zooey? Do you people enjoy answering for other people? Why do you think that ValianttheBater knows what I was referring to? To clarify if Zooey was still young (as in college still, but right out of highschool), which she isn’t as you two pointed out, then the fact that she is older and back in school explains even more about lack of debating skills.
“I can say that she writes a h-ll of a lot better than you–which is to say, she has a much better grasp of English spelling, grammar, etc.”
Well that’s wonderful…I have a far better grasp of physics and engineering than both of you put together.
BTW are you going to respond to #57 in this thread?….
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/10/ken-calvert-background/#comment-3797060
May 16th, 2007 at 8:31 pmWell that’s wonderful…I have a far better grasp of physics and engineering than both of you put together.
BTW are you going to respond to #57 in this thread?….
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 05/ 10/ ken-calvert-background/ #comment-3797060
Comment by Tracy — May 16, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
Physics and engineering are specialized subjects–not part of the basic curriculum like English. So big deal that you know more about these subjects than I do; I could respond to your posts in Japanese, and you wouldn’t be able to read a thing.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:55 pmHow many days did it take you to write #57 above. The last time I looked (maybe 12 hours ago), there was nothing. You took several days to respond, and now you expect a prompt reply from me, eh? Sorry, dearie, but I have other things to do right now, as a friend from England is about to visit.
Ps. Tracy,
May 16th, 2007 at 8:56 pmI have a cousin with a Ph.D. in Physics from Harvard, who teaches it at a university; so he probably knows more than you. But what does that prove here anyway?
#143
“But what does that prove here anyway?”
Nothing, just as you stating that you are better at English and me stating that I am better at math and science.
May 17th, 2007 at 2:14 pm#142
“So big deal that you know more about these subjects than I do;”
And it’s no big deal that you are better in basic curriculum like English. Being far more knowledgeable in engineering and physics, means that I am far better at mathematics and science (both basic subjects), which I am.
“I could respond to your posts in Japanese, and you wouldn’t be able to read a thing.”
Well don’t flaunt your superior English skills and I won’t mention my superior math and science skills.
“How many days did it take you to write #57 above.” (You missed the question mark….didn’t you?)
#57 from the link below was posted the next day @ about 8 p.m.
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 05/ 10/ ken-calvert-background/ #comment-3797060
“The last time I looked (maybe 12 hours ago), there was nothing.”
You must have a problem with your computer. I posted #57 in the thread above May 14, 2007 @ 7:56 p.m. which was in response to yours that you posted on May 13, 2007 @ 10:42 p.m. There was no delay of several days as you claim. Maybe you are confused.
BTW are you going to respond to my #57 post in the link I provided above?
May 17th, 2007 at 2:17 pmI have access to three computers, and your reply to #56 didn’t appear on any of them for days. Maybe there is something wrong with TP (eg. on one thread my comments have disappeared and reappeared at least seven times) or its compatibility with the computers I use.
May 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pmAs for English-writing skills, they are very crucial to the debate here. I allow for the possibility that you may be great in an oral debate. However, when you are submitting something here and it is not in good English, you already lose some points.
BTW, although I did not study engineering and physics, I never said that I didn’t have math courses. I did study math to a certain degree, and my lowest grade it was a B+–which means the rest were A- and above. Will reply to your other post when I have the time. Aside from having work to do, I also have a visitor from the UK.
“…or its compatibility with the computers I use.”
It’s probably a problem at TPs end or what I suspect many times the moderator deleted the post because the don’t like what was posted, which BTW was nothing even remotely close to being half as bad as some of the snide crap I have seen posted here. I looked back at the thread just a little while ago and my post is gone. I think I saved my response in a MS Word document on another computer so I will try and post it again later.
“As for English-writing skills, they are very crucial to the debate here.”
That’s you unwarrented opinion. The degree to which I make mistakes in spelling has zero to do with you understanding the posts. If it does you have some serious adaptive comprehension problems.
“I allow for the possibility that you may be great in an oral debate.
However, when you are submitting something here and it is not in good English, you already lose some points.”
In your irrelevant book! Your status in this blog is not the label of
“grammar police”. I don’t hold the fact that you can’t debate well, evidenced by the fact that you constantly won’t respond with any evidence to back up your claims or provide evidence to counter many of my arguments.
“I did study math to a certain degree, and my lowest grade it was a B+–which means the rest were A- and above.”
If you didn’t get As in college level calculus, analytical geometry, and trigonometry then there isn’t a comparison to be had here. BTW I made Bs in all of my college
May 18th, 2007 at 10:02 am#146
BTW I made Bs in all of my college English courses.
May 18th, 2007 at 5:20 pm#146
This is weird because my post is back again….#57 in this thread….
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/10/ken-calvert-background/#comment-3802547
May 18th, 2007 at 5:30 pmAS far as I am concerned Bill is right on the money. Most men I know don’t want to get there news from a chick, sorry but thats the case where I work. She isn’t seen as any kind of authority or even serious, and to pretend that it doesn’t matter to many men is absurd. Its not that I don’t think a woman can do it well, but to pretend that sex isn’t part of the equasion is stupid. Many men just don’t take females or their opinions that seriously.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:51 amI am not so sure it is a “woman thing” but I am pretty sure it is a “left thing.” Left wing peudo news has been failing for decades .. paper-news is going broke all over the US. They can’t give it away. (why — left wing focus, left wing junk). But TV is worse! (and TV i s LOSING audience .. all TV) .. of 120 chanels on TV only FOX and History are worth watchng (and not THEY are continuous commercials. How many times do you watch the dog-catcher show? Who really watches *paid* info-mercials? Who really watches the house of representatives. That’s not TV. David Springer? Would you buy a TV for that? Sport scores? Baseball? Golf? excuse me? Why not watch birds sing? There ie NOTHING on TV .. any of the 150 channles that are worth $50/mo let alone $125 .. so everyone is on the Internet — $9/mo and you can choose what you want to see and hear.
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