During last night’s presidential debate, Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) repeatedly motioned to his stomach to argue against pro-choice policies. “Here in the womb,” he said, there “is a child that we’re talking about doing this to.” Brownback argued specifically for prohibiting rape and incest victims from obtaining an abortion. Watch it:
No matter how much Brownback gesticulates, there will never be a child in his “womb.”
Transcript:
BROWNBACK: And I think that’s the thing we’ve got to really look at here, is, what are we doing? We talk about abortion, but abortion is a procedure. This is a life that we’re talking about. And it’s a terrible situation where there’s a rape that’s involved or incest.
But it nonetheless remains that this is a child that we’re talking about doing this to, of ending the life of this child. Will that make the woman in a better situation if that’s what takes place? And I don’t think so, and I think we can explain it when we look at it for what it is: a beautiful child of a loving God, that we ought to protect in all circumstances in all places, here in the womb, somebody that’s struggling in poverty, a family that’s struggling. We should work and look at all life, be pro-life and whole-life for everybody.
THANK YOU for blogging about this. I’ve been waiting for someone to be outraged. I screamed at the TV last night.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pmOk.
That’s freaky.
I’ve got nothing to say for this weirdo.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pmYou clowns are really getting desperate from these last few threads. What is the deal,that Senate defeat got you down?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:15 pmMaybe Brownback DOES have a womb. I mean that would explain why he is so whacky.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:16 pmif someone should rape and empregnate his wife;would we then see a different tune being played???
May 16th, 2007 at 5:16 pmSen Brownback appears to be only slightly more articulate than the current Decider-in-Chief…
May 16th, 2007 at 5:18 pmIt sounds nice… keeping babies alive to be born.
But what happens after birth? Is it better to be born and live a life of poverty/sickness/parentless/deformed… any one or any combination or all of those?
Or is it better to terminate the life. Relgious nuts shouldn’t mind that, because the baby will go to heaven! What is better than being at God’s side?
Oh wait, do babies need to be baptised first? And do they need to accept Jesus Christ as their saviour first? I never understood that.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:18 pmBrownback and Hillary do have something in common after all.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:19 pmEwww!
Hey Daryll, I think Brownback is available for implantation!!
May 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pm#2.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pmI thought you liked him?
Isn’t “brownback” code for fudgepack?
Thinkprogress should hand out Bonehead awards for certain lawmakers! Where in the hell do these nimrods come from? This is certainly the case of the invasion of the body snatchers for the whole entire Republican Party crew! First, there was Rep. Ric Keller with his speech using lyrics from rapper LL Cool J yesterday and now Sam Brokeback thinks he has an uterus! Earth calling GOP….
May 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pmBrownback seems to believe that he needs to appeal to the wingiest of the wingnuts in order to get himself elected Deciderer In Chief. At this point, he’s probably appealing to about 2% of the population, and they’re too busy building tinfoil hats to vote.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pmWow, lefties are really grasping at straws here.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:21 pmFor American Taliban like Brownback, life begins at conception and ends at birth.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:22 pmCome on Patrick1.
You can’t win this one.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:22 pmI would love to see Brownie get knocked up by his rapist adn forced to carry the child to full-term. I know it won’t happen, but it IS a delightful thought. Oh, the poetic justice it would bring.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:23 pmBrownback argued specifically for prohibiting rape and incest victims from obtaining an abortion.
Hey, what the hell, right? The woman would be just as raped if she had an abortion, so why not force her to carry and give birth to her rapist’s offspring. It’s not about her when she gets raped, why should it be about her when she’s pregnant because of a rape?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:24 pm/sarcasm
I know it won’t happen, but it IS a delightful thought. Oh, the poetic justice it would bring.
Comment by Uncle Ho
That’s just the point isn’t it, Uncle Ho? Brownback never has to be even the slightest bit concerned that this could actually happen to him.
I don’t believe in corporal punishment, but I think I would smack that guy.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:26 pmHe’s close. He is a cvnt!
May 16th, 2007 at 5:27 pmBrownback is probably targeting the votes of all the beer-bellied couch potatos who can’t see their weenie for their gut, which they can pretend is a woman’s belly while they sit in front of the tube and wank off watching Katie Couric.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:27 pm(If this post makes it thru, I’ll quit for the day!)
Is this news-worthy? Forgeet about Brownback. Start worrying about Fred Thompson.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:30 pmI swear TP is being run by very weird women.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:32 pmWhat if it a muslim baby? How about a spawn of the devil?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:34 pmIn his defense, maybe he thought the movie starring the governor from California was a documentary.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:37 pmpsss…. hey TP, that’s really a dude…
May 16th, 2007 at 5:38 pmWow, lefties are really grasping at straws here.
Comment by m12 — May 16, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
Wow, it’s not us lefty males who think and gesture like we have a uterus
Perhaps a refresher course in anatomy would do wonders for the coherence of your blather
Naaah, probably not, those still enamored with all things W & GOP related-in spite of the political massacre they suffered in November 2006-are far more happy with letting others do the heavy work of rational thinking
May 16th, 2007 at 5:38 pmMaybe BrownBack saw “Aliens” the night before…
May 16th, 2007 at 5:39 pmI swear TP is being run by very weird women.
Comment by jonny — May 16, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
Try not to be frightened.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:40 pmBetcha didn’t know that Browncrack was cast in the lead of the traveling production of The Vagina Monologues.
(Normally I’m opposed to TP headlines that are “reaching”. But this one’s both funny and creepy, so I’m on board.)
May 16th, 2007 at 5:41 pmHiya Zooey! Which kind of bat do you prefer to deliver Brownie’s attitude adjustment…Wood or aluminum?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:42 pmYeah, here is some real presidential material. Next.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:43 pmhayzeus; you made it-so far. Don’t quit now, you’re on a roll. :-)
May 16th, 2007 at 5:47 pmYou’d be surprised.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:47 pmFor some reason lots of converted Catholics like Brownback get all weird about this - we cradle Catholics feel free to ignore all the crazy medieval stuff. Not to mention that the Curia is composed of ancient, male virgins (well, ideally virgins, but certainly not family men) so why would I listen to them on anything to do with women’s lives?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:48 pmYou people have no idea… I live in KS and can tell you he is completely insane. He is a pure theocrat and wants to turn the US constitution into a foot note for rule via the bible. He can’t stop talking about his faith for four seconds, yet loves the death penalty and is very excited about passing judgment on anybody. This guy is the the purest embodiment of the Christian Taliban and we’d all better do our best to keep him and his type in check.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:48 pm“I thought you liked him?
Isn’t “brownback†code for fudgepack?”
There you go, Bottomboy. And, he’s your soulmate around here. That’s why I refer to you as “self-loathing.” If you don’t get that the politicians you support hate you, you’re about as clueless as a person can get. Your cult leader thinks you’re going to hell. Your politicians don’t think you should have the same rights as heterosexuals. If your boyfriend is ever in the hospital and they won’t let you visit him, don’t blame liberals. The straight friends with whom you work can provide company-funded healthcare to their spouses. You probably can’t. If that becomes an issue for you, don’t blame liberals.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:49 pmRemember Stem Cell Brownback! :-)
http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2006/ 07/ 20/ the-daily-show-on-stem-cell-brownback/
May 16th, 2007 at 5:49 pmgoes to show that ignorance and bigotry go hand in hand.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:49 pmBreaking news; Jerry Falwell has checked into hell. You can write him at room 666.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:50 pmBrownback: “I love my vagina. I have given my vagina a name. If my vagina were a tree, it would be a weeping willow.”
May 16th, 2007 at 5:51 pmHiya Zooey! Which kind of bat do you prefer to deliver Brownie’s attitude adjustment…Wood or aluminum?
Comment by Uncle Ho — May 16, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
Hi, Uncle Ho. :)
I choose an aluminum bat, in keeping with The Liberal Agenda. Aluminum is recyclable, and we don’t have to waste a tree on that moron.
Heh.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:52 pm♪♫ He’s having my bay-bee… ♪♫
May 16th, 2007 at 5:56 pm“Oh wait, do babies need to be baptised first? And do they need to accept Jesus Christ as their saviour first? I never understood that.
Comment by Anonymous By Choice — May 16, 2007 @ 5:18 pm”
They used to go to Hell outright, but then it was changed to Purgatory when a few people choked at the idea of babies frying in eternal torment. Not too long ago, the Pope said that they go to Heaven, because too many people didn’t like the Purgatory filled with zombie children idea either…
If I’d been allowed to grow up before anyone told me the craziness of Catholic Doctrine, I never would have been one…
May 16th, 2007 at 5:57 pm#36: Uhhuh? And you have personal knowledge of what the life of a gay Republican insider is like? I don’t think so. I’m covered in every way (yeah, sometimes even in chocolate), thank you very much.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:59 pm“This guy is the the purest embodiment of the Christian Taliban and we’d all better do our best to keep him and his type in check.
Comment by GT — May 16, 2007 @ 5:48 pm”
Sounds like my elected neocons here in Georgia. I write them regularly to preach about Atheism. I figure as much as they prosletyze, it’s only fair that I get equal time at the pulpit…
May 16th, 2007 at 6:02 pmIf I’d been allowed to grow up before anyone told me the craziness of Catholic Doctrine, I never would have been one…
Comment by unbelievable
Zombie children — cool. :P
Heh. I was allowed to grow up and then choose my religion. I could tell my mom felt like that was a major miscaluculation when I chose no religion. Heh.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:03 pm#26
He said nothing even remotely close to that. I have no idea why lefties bother even trying to twist his words.
“Here is the womb” (on a female human) in no way says he has one.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:05 pm#22
May 16th, 2007 at 6:06 pmJonny, hey man, I know you’re full, but we’ve been backed up
(har har, inside joke, YOU know) all day today, never got away from the parking lot where they had that debate last night!
Talk about full of it, man them people win #1 prize (and #2, too! har har!)
keep your lid down (har har) and we’ll be by first thing in the morning!
Gotta go… NOW! har har har!
“Breaking news; Jerry Falwell has checked into hell. You can write him at room 666.
Comment by Uncle Ho — May 16, 2007 @ 5:50 pm”
Have you seen The Rude Pundit’s eulogy of Falwell?
May 16th, 2007 at 6:06 pmBottomboy: “I’m covered in every way”
Talk to your fellow gays. Most of them aren’t covered in any way. But, evidently, as a self-loathing sociopathic member of the elite, you don’t give a damn. Do you think that’s admirable?
May 16th, 2007 at 6:08 pmMaybe Brownback DOES have a womb. I mean that would explain why he is so whacky.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — May 16, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
If he does, it still isn’t where his stomach is.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:08 pm“Here is the womb†(on a female human) in no way says he has one.
Comment by m12
Anyone who has one knows where it is.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:08 pmIt’s called humor. You should look it up sometime.
“Zombie children — cool. :P”
I always imaged vampires for some odd reason…
“Heh. I was allowed to grow up and then choose my religion. I could tell my mom felt like that was a major miscaluculation when I chose no religion. Heh.
Comment by Zooey — May 16, 2007 @ 6:03 pm”
You’re lucky. My father was anti-evolution. I had to accept the theory (which I did at 11) in private…
I have a feeling that is given the choice to choose a religion after maturation, only a small fraction actually world. Seems it’s a tougher habit to start than to kick…
May 16th, 2007 at 6:12 pmUnb; nope, did not see it. might make me urp, and I JUST ate.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:12 pmThey used to go to Hell outright, but then it was changed to Purgatory when a few people choked at the idea of babies frying in eternal torment. Not too long ago, the Pope said that they go to Heaven, because too many people didn’t like the Purgatory filled with zombie children idea either…
No, no, no. They couldn’t go to Purgatory because that’s where minor sinners go, and babies are pure of personal sins yet Guilty of Original Sin. So, they invented a whole new nether region called Limbo to deal with that problem. Happily for the babies, the current Pope has said it’s ok for babies to skip limbo, although technically he hasn’t closed limbo to those who prefer that path to righteousness.
Let’s get our insane dogma straight here, shall we?
May 16th, 2007 at 6:14 pm“Here is the womb†(on a female human) in no way says he has one.
Comment by m12 — May 16, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
Even on a woman, its lower. That’s a stomach on everybody.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:14 pm“I have a feeling that iF given the choice to choose a religion after maturation, only a small fraction actually woUld.”
Now that should make sense…
May 16th, 2007 at 6:15 pmunbelievable: “I always imaged vampires for some odd reason…”
Well, the drinking of Christ’s blood is a bit suspicious. And, it is a cult which worships death and torture. Their most iconic image, after all, is a man being tortured to death. Have you ever read “The Wanting Seed” by Anthony Burgess. It’s a very screwed up future and christianity has turned into a cult of cannibals, eating the flesh and drinking the blood. Very provocative science fiction.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:16 pmhttp://www.radaronline.com/ exclusives/ 2007/ 05/ christopher-hitchens-anderson-cooper-jerry-falwell.php
I’m sure it’s just a fascination, or ratings stunt, but cable news has been letting Atheist authors bash the Christonazis lately…
May 16th, 2007 at 6:17 pmUnb; nope, did not see it. might make me urp, and I JUST ate.
Comment by Uncle Ho
You gotta read it, Uncle Ho, especially the last paragraph.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:17 pmIt’s delicious. :-D
On this “limbo” thing, it sure does look to me like they’re making it all up as they go along.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:17 pmZooey; got a link for that?
May 16th, 2007 at 6:21 pmI have a feeling that is given the choice to choose a religion after maturation, only a small fraction actually world. Seems it’s a tougher habit to start than to kick…
Comment by unbelievable
You’re right. I was supposed to choose to enter their church, I knew that, but I was old enough by then to say I wasn’t going to do it. I’m pretty sure that if they had it to do over again, I’d be in church every Sunday. But they don’t!!
May 16th, 2007 at 6:23 pm“No, no, no. They couldn’t go to Purgatory because that’s where minor sinners go, and babies are pure of personal sins yet Guilty of Original Sin.”
As opposed to Hell which is where they originally went regardless of ’sin?
“So, they invented a whole new nether region called Limbo to deal with that problem.”
Because an imaginary place matters what you call it? Limbo is a part of Purgatory. You’re splitting hairs now… Plus, I am trying to forget the details. It’s better that way.
“Let’s get our insane dogma straight here, shall we?
Comment by gorn by any other name — May 16, 2007 @ 6:14 pm”
No fun that way.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:25 pmUnb; nope, did not see it. might make me urp, and I JUST ate.
Comment by Uncle Ho
You gotta read it, Uncle Ho, especially the last paragraph.
It’s delicious. :-D
Comment by Zooey
“Delicious?” Icky Zooey, icky.
That’s a visual I could have done without. Yeesh. And it pretty much ruined The Inferno for me, too.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:26 pmUncle Ho,
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
Enjoy!
May 16th, 2007 at 6:26 pmwhat about children dying in the womb in Iraq?
May 16th, 2007 at 6:27 pm#56
Yeah, but he couldn’t move his hands much lower, because the podium was blocking the view.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:29 pmNo matter how much Brownback gesticulates, there will never be a child in his “womb.â€
by thinkprogress.org
so, TP admits that what a woman has in her womb is a child? Freudian slip? or does TP know this and they just don’t care about the fact that abortion is really the murder of an innocent human baby, whose only crime is being conceived in the womb of a mother that believes abortion is ok?
wow….sad, sad……
Brownback is right in all he said about abortion and the evils of abortion.
I am not surprised that TP didn’t bother to quote Brownback’s words when he pointed to studies that show that the majority of women who have abortion end up being clinically depressed and with other psychological problems.
Well we know that TP is NOT interested or NOW, NARAL or any other pro-murdering babies instittuion cares for women and their health, all they care about is the ability to kill babies.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:30 pm“Well, the drinking of Christ’s blood is a bit suspicious.”
Ah ha!
“And, it is a cult which worships death and torture. Their most iconic image, after all, is a man being tortured to death.”
Yes, to absolve all of humanity for the horrid crime of two naked people having eaten an apple… Such logic!
“Have you ever read “The Wanting Seed†by Anthony Burgess. It’s a very screwed up future and christianity has turned into a cult of cannibals, eating the flesh and drinking the blood. Very provocative science fiction.
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 16, 2007 @ 6:16 pm”
I’m on a fiction kick - have been for a few years now, wanting to unlearn the lies I was taught, and replace them with reality-based knowledge instead… But when I get back to fiction, I’m going to read ‘Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy’, and I’ll add your suggestion second - it sounds like a re-reading the bible :D
May 16th, 2007 at 6:31 pmMaybe he’s been visiting Mike Jones and giving it a go?
May 16th, 2007 at 6:34 pmIt sounds nice… keeping babies alive to be born.
But what happens after birth? Is it better to be born and live a life of poverty/sickness/parentless/deformed… any one or any combination or all of those?
————-So, if an adult suffers a deformity, loses a limb, ends up bed ridden, suffering a lot of pain, his/her care taker should have the ability to put this person to death? should adults that went from rich to poor, and no live a life of poverty, should they be put to death? Please, shallow and naive argument for abortion.————————————
Or is it better to terminate the life. Relgious nuts shouldn’t mind that, because the baby will go to heaven! What is better than being at God’s side?
————————So, when Hitler was killing those millions of human beings, or Stalin, or Mao Tsung, it was ok because they were going to Heaven? Once again, shallow and naive and a lack of understanding of what you call, religious nuts———————————–
Oh wait, do babies need to be baptised first? And do they need to accept Jesus Christ as their saviour first? I never understood that.
—————–Ignorant comment, from an individual that clearly doesn’t understand or knows religion————————————————-
May 16th, 2007 at 6:35 pmHe has every bit as much chance of getting elected as he does having a baby in his “womb”.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:37 pm“I’m pretty sure that if they had it to do over again, I’d be in church every Sunday. But they don’t!!
Comment by Zooey — May 16, 2007 @ 6:23 pm”
What branch of the religion are you supposed to be?
I was in church every Sunday. I would never do that to a child. I consider it a form of mental abuse. The Catholic version makes you feel guilty for every natural human thought, feeling or function, and then forces you to give up your favorite things for 6 weeks during Lent, and give full creditfor every nice thing you ever do to some invisible man. And we wonder why so many people are on prescription anti-depressants…
You’re lucky.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:38 pmwow, look at the “tolerant” left wingers….such great intolerance and bigotry for religion, especially, or shall I say, ONLY Christianity.
so much for the tolerance and open mindness of the left wing.
sad, truly sad. I take it only you Liberals believe that you are tolerant and open minded, right? Because it is clear to anyone else tha tdoens’t belong to your anti-Christian cult that you are not tolerant or open minded individuals.
so sad that you are fooling yourselves.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:38 pm“Delicious?†Icky Zooey, icky.
That’s a visual I could have done without. Yeesh. And it pretty much ruined The Inferno for me, too.
Comment by gummitch
Heh. I love the Rude Pundit. :-)
May 16th, 2007 at 6:40 pmhttp://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
Enjoy!
Comment by Zooey — May 16, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
Well now I believe there is a heaven!
May 16th, 2007 at 6:40 pmBut when I get back to fiction, I’m going to read ‘Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy’, and I’ll add your suggestion second - it sounds like a re-reading the bible :D
Comment by unbelievable
Yes! Read all of them. Brilliant!
May 16th, 2007 at 6:42 pmI am not surprised that TP didn’t bother to quote Brownback’s words when he pointed to studies that show that the majority of women who have abortion end up being clinically depressed and with other psychological problems
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Have you ever heard of post partum depression and psychosis in women delivering babies full term. Or when they have spontaneous abortions, which is what they are called medically, not miscarriages.
What you know about reproduction in women wouldn’t fill the head of a pin.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:44 pmwhat about children dying in the womb in Iraq?
Well, of course they have a one-way ticket to hell because their parents are not Christian.
Exodus 20:5: “You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me.â€
I mean, you even have to ask?
May 16th, 2007 at 6:44 pm“I’m pretty sure that if they had it to do over again, I’d be in church every Sunday. But they don’t!!
Comment by Zooey — May 16, 2007 @ 6:23 pmâ€
What branch of the religion are you supposed to be?
I was in church every Sunday. I would never do that to a child. I consider it a form of mental abuse.
—————-As oppose to Muslims who teach their children how to become suicide bombers, right? You consider taking a child to get to know Jesus Christ a form of mental abuse. Yet you support the Palestinian families that teach their children how to kill Jews. Nice, only a Libtard would say such idiotic things——————-
The Catholic version makes you feel guilty for every natural human thought, feeling or function,
—————-WRONG! if you felt guilty that is on you child. The Church just tells you that there is wrong and right. If you do wrong, there are consequences, if you do right, there are consequences. How you feel when you act, that is on you. Not much of a thinker are you, eh? quite obvious——————————
and then forces you to give up your favorite things for 6 weeks during Lent, and give full creditfor every nice thing you ever do to some invisible man. And we wonder why so many people are on prescription anti-depressants…
———————No one forces you to give up anything. Complete and utter lie! You give it up willingly and if you don’t want to, that is ok too. I think you weren’t a Catholic and don’t knnow much about the Roman catholic Church. The only thing that the Church says you must give up during Lent is eating meat on Fridays and eating one regular meal on each Friday of lent and Ash Wednesday. And even this, depending on the age and health of the individual doesn’t need to be given up. Why do you lie? You obviously don’t have a clue about the Roman Catholic Church and its teachings————————————-
May 16th, 2007 at 6:44 pmWhat branch of the religion are you supposed to be?
Comment by unbelievable
The one that got cut off because it was interfering with the electrical lines. :-D
May 16th, 2007 at 6:45 pm—————–Ignorant comment, from an individual that clearly doesn’t understand or knows religion————————————————-
Comment by Valiantthehater
And FYI, this ISN’T a bible study group.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:45 pmWell now I believe there is a heaven!
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Isn’t the Rude One great? Oh my god, you should read him when he goes off on Ann Coulter. Heh.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:46 pm“Yes! Read all of them. Brilliant!
Comment by Zooey — May 16, 2007 @ 6:42 pm”
The movie sucked… I’m hoping the book will erase it from memory.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:48 pmONLY if you want to be wrong again. Most of us think ALL religions are full of sh!T and should keep their fairy tales to themselves and stop forcing it down other people’s throats and especially stop starting wars over stupid religion. This includes Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Scientology and gopher worshippers, because you are all in the same boat. The SS Looney Tuney.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:48 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
We dislike fundamentalist of any kind. Christian and Islamic fundamentalists are dangerous. Most of the posters her were raised in some form of church but we can all see how dangerous and out of touch with reality fundamentalists are when they run a country.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:48 pmOh and Vilehater, have I told you lately where you can stick that bible of yours.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:49 pm—————–Ignorant comment, from an individual that clearly doesn’t understand or knows religion————————————————-
Comment by Valiantthehater
And FYI, this ISN’T a bible study group.
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
you are right, this is a hate fest from the left wingers, like you, towards Christianity.
Left wingers attack, make fun of, etc, etc anyone that disagrees with their ideologies, but God help he/she who dares question the left wing ideology or who is a Christian. You will feel the wrath of the left wingers who claim to be compassionate, tolerant, open minded, and to accept all point of views.
funny enough, as it is always shown in left wing blogs that talk about Christianity, the left only loves Islam, but hates Christianty.
you Christianphobes, and intolerant, closed minded bigots.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:50 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Shut up, you f*cking idiot.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:50 pmhas anyone seen an uninformed blanket statement around here?
“As oppose to Muslims who teach their children how to become suicide bombers, right?”
nevermind.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:52 pmNot just Christianity. ALL organized religion. ALL OF THEM. Your religion doesn’t make you any more or any less loony than other religions. You religion doesn’t get any more or any less respect from me. Christians are no better than Muslims, who are no better than Jews, who are no better than snake dancers. You are all crazy.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:53 pmunbelievable, Hitchhiker’s guide is a very fun book. “The Wanting Seed” is part of a group of stories Burgess wrote in the late 50’s and early 60’s as cautionary tales he wanted to tell before he died. It was written about the same time he did “A Clockwork Orange.” A doctor told him he only had a few years to live. The doctor was wrong, but Burgess cranked out some great work under the fear of dying early. It’s a classic.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:53 pmthis is a silly thing to pick at -
May 16th, 2007 at 6:53 pmJust read one of my favorites, Da Rude Dude, that was some piece-a-prose!~
May 16th, 2007 at 6:54 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Shut up, you f*cking idiot.
Comment by Zooey — May 16, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! yes, the tolerant left wingers, who claim to love freedom of speech, but would love to silence all those they disagree with.
make me child.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:54 pmThe movie sucked… I’m hoping the book will erase it from memory.
Comment by unbelievable
Oh absolutely, it was terrible. It was nice to get a visual on the Vogons, though. :P
May 16th, 2007 at 6:55 pm“Left wingers attack, make fun of, etc, etc anyone that disagrees with their ideologies”
i like to only make fun of people who write really dumb posts, regardless of ideology.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:55 pmZooey; thanks for the link- it does pretty well sums up that vile lump of dung.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:57 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! yes, the tolerant left wingers, who claim to love freedom of speech, but would love to silence all those they disagree with.
make me child.
Comment by Valiantthehater
You are free to speak, and I am free to tell you to shut up.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:57 pmOh yeah…..and tell you that you’re a f*cking idiot.
“As oppose to Muslims who teach their children how to become suicide bombers, right?”
All monotheistic religions are equally absurd, dangerous and pointless. I reject them all equally - not just your crazy variety.
” You consider taking a child to get to know Jesus Christ a form of mental abuse.”
Considering the guy is DEAD? Yep. Read the bible. All of it. Jesus could be a real douche bag if you weren’t into his sermons.
“Yet you support the Palestinian families that teach their children how to kill Jews. Nice, only a Libtard would say such idiotic things”
Actually, YOU said that. I did not.
“WRONG! if you felt guilty that is on you child. The Church just tells you that there is wrong and right.”
RIGHT! LOL You need your diaper changed again Mr Crankypants…
No, it was stupid dogmatic lies that feelings of sexuality during puberty were a sin. They aren’t. It’s a natural human feeling.
Right and Wrong are subjective.
“If you do wrong, there are consequences, if you do right, there are consequences. How you feel when you act, that is on you. Not much of a thinker are you, eh? quite obvious”
LOL. That’s hilarious. You actually just regurgitated the church propaganda, without thinking, and then accused me of not being a thinker. All thinking men (and women) are atheists and agnostics.
“No one forces you to give up anything. Complete and utter lie! You give it up willingly and if you don’t want to, that is ok too.”
And then you’d be told to feel guilty…. LOL
“I think you weren’t a Catholic and don’t knnow much about the Roman catholic Church.”
I was as Roman Catholic as it gets. I’m even half Italian. You just can’t stand that people like me walked away, and are happier, more moral and don’t crap their pants.
“The only thing that the Church says you must give up during Lent is eating meat on Fridays and eating one regular meal on each Friday of lent and Ash Wednesday. And even this, depending on the age and health of the individual doesn’t need to be given up.”
Stupid custom regardless. There’s already enough unnecessary suffering in the world - why inflict moreon yourself for some dead guy? Beyond stupid.
“Why do you lie? You obviously don’t have a clue about the Roman Catholic Church and its teachings————————————-
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 6:44 pm”
Says the foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who has never read the entire bible… You’re a riot. LOL!
May 16th, 2007 at 6:59 pmfunny enough, as it is always shown in left wing blogs that talk about Christianity, the left only loves Islam, but hates Christianty.
you Christianphobes, and intolerant, closed minded bigots.
Comment by Valianttheplagiarist
Calling the left Islam-lovers is an over-used neoCON talking point. Can you prove that or cite quotes here supporting Islam over Christianity?
May 16th, 2007 at 7:00 pmI didn’t think so.
valiant moron; Because of the Amerikan Taliban(Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, Kennedy, Roberts etc), I think I will become a Druid and pray to rocks, trees, water, etc.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:01 pmWho the fu*k said that?
Let’s see a link where any lefty said “We want to here from everybody, because we love everybody and think everybody is entitled to spout stupid sh!t because we love everybody and are all vegans and hug trees and sing koom bi ya.”
You are a fu*king loser and you are full of sh!t.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:01 pmZooey; thanks for the link- it does pretty well sums up that vile lump of dung.
Comment by Uncle Ho
I’m glad you liked it. :-)
May 16th, 2007 at 7:02 pm“The one that got cut off because it was interfering with the electrical lines. :-D
Comment by Zooey — May 16, 2007 @ 6:45 pm”
:D LOL
May 16th, 2007 at 7:04 pmMost of us think ALL religions are full of sh!T and should keep their fairy tales to themselves and stop forcing it down other people’s throats and especially stop starting wars over stupid religion. This includes Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Scientology and gopher worshippers, because you are all in the same boat. The SS Looney Tuney.
I resemble that remark, and reiterate it with full reiterativity.
(Sorry, had a Dubya moment there.)
May 16th, 2007 at 7:05 pm“gopher worshippers, because you are all in the same boat. The SS Looney Tuney.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — May 16, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
Oh my god, I near peed myself in hysterics… That was hilarious!
May 16th, 2007 at 7:07 pm“Shut up, you f*cking idiot.
Comment by Zooey — May 16, 2007 @ 6:50 pm”
You know, really, that’s the best thing to say to Valiant bin Laden…
May 16th, 2007 at 7:08 pmunbelievable: “All thinking men (and women) are atheists and agnostics.”
I think author Richard Dawkins, who wrote “The God Delusion,” calls himself a “1% agnostic.” He won’t go all the way because he has to admit that he really doesn’t know.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:10 pm“It’s a classic.
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 16, 2007 @ 6:53 pm”
Stanley Kubrick is my favorite all-time film director… I’ve been trying to read the books he picked to interpret, because it helps understand the films. Thanks for the tip! I will definitely add it to my list.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:11 pmunb; time to break out the Depends. heh.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:11 pmIt’s deja vu all over again folks…
…I’m no Ron Paul supporter but…
…he’s getting the Howard Dean treatment by the ffp media…
…in order to make THEIR choice…
…Crossdressing Closet Queen Rudy Guiliana (sic)…
…look like a “Macho, Macho MAN”!
…who’ll save us all from “de terreris’”…
…If the TREASONOUS ffp CORPORATE CONTROLLED media…
…and their co-conspirators at the RNC and DNC…
…have their way…
…it’s Rudy vs Hillary in ‘08…
May 16th, 2007 at 7:14 pm“I think author Richard Dawkins, who wrote “The God Delusion,†calls himself a “1% agnostic.†He won’t go all the way because he has to admit that he really doesn’t know.
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 16, 2007 @ 7:10 pm”
Dawkins seems pretty hardcore Atheist to me. I thought he said that the only difference between an Atheist and an Agnostic is ‘guts’… I suppose we could ‘google’ it.
I have to say that I think there is officially enough evidence against any sort of god/creator - it’s just not out in the open. 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences are Atheists. I think there’s a pretty valid reason why the people who live science research are convinced themselves…
May 16th, 2007 at 7:21 pm“unb; time to break out the Depends. heh.
Comment by Uncle Ho — May 16, 2007 @ 7:11 pm”
No shit… literally :D
I’ve gotta go feed the critters…
Thanks for the laughs and book recommendations!!
May 16th, 2007 at 7:24 pmWhat a laugh! Who would have thought that the idiocy of Bush/Cheney could have been surpassed…come to think of it, it’s rather frightening.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:24 pmHater: “Left wingers attack, make fun of, etc, etc anyone that disagrees with their ideologies, but God help he/she who dares question the left wing ideology or who is a Christian. You will feel the wrath of the left wingers who claim to be compassionate, tolerant, open minded, and to accept all point of views.”
Translation: Whaaaaa! Boo, hoo, hoo, I can’t win an argument around here!
May 16th, 2007 at 7:47 pmFollowing his logically, if I have an Embryo the government can issue it a social security number and I can count it as a dependant on my taxes. And open it a trust fund.
“No life should be destroyed to save another”. Can you say “Iraq” pro-birth people?
May 16th, 2007 at 7:55 pmNotice in the pic: the microphone setup in front of Brownback, who I call Brokeback, is in the shape of a coathanger > very appropriate.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:59 pmI am a progressive Christian and I personally am Pro-Life, however I support keeping abortion safe, legal, and never! By this I mean I voulnteer at adoption agencies and help out at charities that help poor women. Anyone who is personally opposed to abortion like I am should do the same. Making abortion illegal does no-one no good especially women in crisis situations who need our compassion.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:59 pmComment by Jack — May 16, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
You are a rare being, Jack. Thanks for what you do.
Abortion is not a morality issue, it is a medical issue, between a woman and her doctor.
Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:06 pm“Yes! Read all of them. Brilliant!
Comment by Zooey
There was a point (well, more like a line or perhaps a shape) in my life when I read every piece of sf I could find and was even a respected (and reviled) critic. I read space operas from the 20s and rode the New Wave. For some reason, I could not get into the Hitchhiker series. Dunno why. Lately, I’ve actually reread a few favorites from my youth; maybe I’ll give Adams another try.
Better check to see if there’s a new Terry Pratchett novel out, as well.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:25 pmBut I DO hate xtianity and all its evil doings and deluded believers….may they all go to hell right now so we can live in peace…..thank you jeeeeeeeesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuussssssss and lucifer too….
May 16th, 2007 at 8:30 pmBrownNoseBack certainly won the Ducking Fummy award last night.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:39 pmI wish Jesus would just take all of Kansas and the fools living there to their everlasting life in fantasy land…tomorrow would not be too soon for me….what a bunch of losers…oh..and can His Godness also take all of Texas up to his dwelling place (but wait til bushit is down there doing his landscaping for butch retards…)
May 16th, 2007 at 8:42 pmI see Valiant is once again namecalling to decry namecalling
Hypocritical as usual, what a surprise
But hey, VTH’s spin trying to deflect from Brownback’s weird sympathy gestures about having a uterus-you remember, right VTH, the subject of this thread, never mind, I wouldn’t want you to overly-strain your obviously enfeebled rhetoric any further than nature itself already has-is almost as enjoyable as watching a dog chase its tail around in never-ending circles
Hey, that last comparison pretty much sums up VTH’s arguments, lacking in all logic and common sense as they are
May 16th, 2007 at 8:44 pmTranslation: Whaaaaa! Boo, hoo, hoo, I can’t win an argument around here!
Comment by Bluedog49
Good translation, Bluedog. About the only time Hater put together some sentences “articulating” beyond his/her usual “poor stupid lefties/Islamofascist-loving libs” schtick, it turned out that it was something lifted wholesale without any attributions from a rightwing site–in other words, plagiarism. Hater seems to be a neoCON programmed robot without an original thought in its head.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:47 pmFor some reason, I could not get into the Hitchhiker series. Dunno why. Lately, I’ve actually reread a few favorites from my youth; maybe I’ll give Adams another try.
Comment by gummitch
Watch a few episodes of the cheesy old British series — not the more recent movie. Ugh. You’ll get a sense of the rhythm of the thing, and hear that narrator’s voice in your head. Might help. There’s great wisdom in all that crazy stuff!
May 16th, 2007 at 8:58 pm“We should work and look at all life, be pro-life and whole-life for everybody.”
Huh? That sounds so progressive. Whole-life? No kidding? Somehow your voting record doesn’t show that you fraud.
May 16th, 2007 at 9:14 pm“We should work and look at all life, be pro-life and whole-life for everybody.â€
That sounds so progressive. Whole-life?
Comment by JPark #129
JPark,
You’re SO right!
…we Progressives are DEFINITELY more “pro-life” than the hypocritical CONNED’selfservatives…
…think about it…
…in almost ANY other country in the world with a minority of the populace…
…as VILE, corrupt, TREASONOUS, and STUPID as the DUHmerikkkan right wing conservatives and THEIR regime…
…BLOOD would be running in the streets…
May 16th, 2007 at 9:32 pmlol he’s talking about his “womb†is right out of Monty Pythons Life of Brian.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:47 amYour ‘child’ is the product of too many backed beans meals.
May 17th, 2007 at 7:09 amI’m a Democrat, consider myself a liberal AND I’m a Christian who goes to church every Sunday…and I know lots of people just like me. So your sweeping generalizations about how the left hates Christianity don’t fly.
I do, however, agree that the fundamentalist branch of my religion is dangerous and has no place in politics.
May 17th, 2007 at 8:57 amBrownback; just another glib queer from the NaziCon Circus…
May 17th, 2007 at 10:35 amSo if Brownback’s brother raped and impregnated Brownback’s daughter, he wouldn’t seek an abortion?
Yeah, right.
May 17th, 2007 at 11:28 amI am a Progressive Christain as I said in my other comment. I am sick to the core of hearing people refer to sexist men as “religious” and I am sick of my religon being dominated by the close minded right wingers.
I think it is wonderful that many progressives are open to the fact that not all Muslims are terrorists and I feel exactly the same about many of my Muslim friends. So why cant people on the left be open to Progressive Christians like me?
Martin Luther King was a very Liberal Christian and look what he did for black people. Not only that but alot of people didn’t know that he openly admired Planned Parenthood’s founder, Maragert Sanger. He always stated how great her ideas on a womans right to decide wether or not to bring children into the world was, and how he felt that equality for women was just as important as equality for African Americans.
It is really wrong to make people like me feel excluded from the ProChoice side of the debate, when right now, it is essential that we respect each others beliefs wether we are Christian Muslim Jewish Atheist Agnostic Buddist Hindu and so forth.
It is important that we have the open mind about beliefs that we wish the people in our government would have about women’s rights.
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