Compassionate conservatism, FEMA-style.
By on May 16th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Compassionate conservatism, FEMA-style.
“Complaints that mobile homes and trailers housing hurricane Katrina and Rita victims have unhealthy levels of formaldehyde were dismissed by Federal Emergency Management Agency Director David Paulison on Tuesday. … ‘We’ve told people they can air those trailers out,’ he said.”
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Then go back inside and go to sleep, like good little sheep.
May 16th, 2007 at 9:59 pmWhy not bury them 40 feet underground as Air Raid shelters for the politicians in DC?
May 16th, 2007 at 10:01 pmWolfowitz refuses to quit Bank, wants name cleared
By Lesley Wroughton
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz refused on Wednesday to bow to heavy European pressure to resign as he sought to clear his name in negotiations with the bank’s board over a possible exit strategy.
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May 16th, 2007 at 10:04 pmUnbelievable!
So he was unaware of the formaldahyde but he said they could air out the trailers (as if that would work all that well with a deadly gas). Gotta love these guys.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:05 pmI’m not a scientist but will airing them out stop the source of the fumes? I’m guessing this is another example of our government apathy towards the people in need. I’m also guessing that these trailers are not going to inhabit many rich white folks either.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI’m sure they hadn’t thought for themselves of airing the trailers out.
Thank goodness we have Mr Paulison to be the voice of caution and reason.
*eyes rolling*
May 16th, 2007 at 10:10 pm“They’re used to having nothing so this is good enough for them.”
May 16th, 2007 at 10:10 pmRepublican Infomercial on proper FEMA trailer use:
Here’s a box to live in after a horrific event in your life but the air inside is toxic so when you put your children to sleep at night just leave the door open. By the way we are the “For Life” Party.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:13 pm#5 – the Lone Voice of Reason
May 16th, 2007 at 10:13 pmCosider the fact that thy have been “airing out” for the past two years or so
A little question here. Why was there formaldahyde gas in FEMA trailers?
May 16th, 2007 at 10:15 pmCosider s/b Consider in my number 9.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:15 pm#10 – JPark,
May 16th, 2007 at 10:18 pmIt comes from the foam insulation.
YEAH, Cletus, we’ll a-just _air ‘em out_, ’speshully down SOUTH there with the heat abn humidity-
May 16th, 2007 at 10:20 pmobviously this brain surgeon hasn’t been to the Gulf Coast in the 9- unbearable month of the year
Wow, Walt, how old are these things???
May 16th, 2007 at 10:20 pmOk FEMA fell flat on its face the first opportunity to help in a disaster. But why do still not have their S%$# together.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:20 pmHow can they notice it with the stench of raw sewage in the air?
May 16th, 2007 at 10:22 pmLone, I am guessing because they are Republican hacks. That type generally doesn’t care about the people…just money.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:22 pm#14 – JPark,
May 16th, 2007 at 10:27 pmActually pretty new, urea foam is still used as a filler between metal panels. If you had a spa installed inside your home, you would notice the odor for about 3 months. It’s cheaper and does not exert as much pressure as it expands as polyurithane foam.
Oh, so what. They were poor anyway. Formaldahyde will preserve them and keep them looking youthful. Why do the poor always complain. They are so ungrateful.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:28 pm#7 is a name jacker. Everybody who’s anybody know that I only post under Babs.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:30 pmI don’t understand Walt. So, people actually buy trailers with dangerous insulation?
May 16th, 2007 at 10:31 pmDo you think the contractor who furnished these trailers is a crony so he used the cheapist as WTM said and knew they wouldn’t get returned if they had issues.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:33 pmHow many years do you think these poor people will be staying in these trailers.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:36 pmI read somewhere that they were selling off the rest of the unused trailers. And they were in Arkansas but when a tornado tore up a town there, close to them, they wouldn’t send them to the people because they had voted Democratic.
#21 – JPark,
May 16th, 2007 at 10:40 pmSome people do so on a personal buy, but the Feds always favor a low bid or a crony, same difference.
They’re used to having nothing so this is good enough for them.â€
Comment by Barbara Bush
My parents recently took a trip thru the area (N.O.) What people don’t realize is that even if you repair your home you cannot move back into it until over a third of the block has completed home repairs. Many people have simply abandoned their property.
It’s a catch 22 scenario, fixing your home does not mean you can live in it.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:42 pmI think some wrongful death suits are in the offing.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:44 pmI confirm that the furnaces are up to Canadian standards in US mobile homes.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:46 pmThe FEMA trailers are a waste of money.
They are incomplete, they are not up to NA standarts.
They have been left in fields for over a year with no oversight.
You expect the people of New Orleans to accept them when in our country we won’t accept them!
#26 JPark,
May 16th, 2007 at 10:48 pmBush thinks he will be dead by then – no skin off his corpse.
I know Walt, he talks more about his ‘legacy” than he does about the people. It is sickening. I swear the only reason he wanted to be president was to get his name in the history books. I don’t know why…he clearly has never read one.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:50 pmJPark,
May 16th, 2007 at 10:54 pmI’m off to Jon Stewart – then to slumberland, thanks for the confab. – Walt
After 20 months, these people are still living in the government trailers? If the government won’t support you, will you shrivel up and die? Maybe condescension from the government is appropriate.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:07 pmStop banking your future on someone else.
‘We’ve told people they can air those trailers out,’
-it’s not a rank fart for Christ’s sake
May 16th, 2007 at 11:07 pmPaulison needs to live in one of those trailers for a month and see if he then thinks it’s OK. Formaldehyde can kill you, so David can die from it.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:17 pmStop banking your future on someone else.
Comment by paul
For shame. These people had very little to begin with, and then lost everything.
Aid for these people has been a clusterf*ck since the very start, and yet somehow it’s their fault.
You have some nerve blaming the victim.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:19 pmThere is that compassionate conservativism we all expect, Pauly. Tell me, how do you get a job when you have nothing. Those dress clothes you use to go to interviews? You don’t have any. That phone used to get call-backs? What phone? Businesses are decimated in the area so there are not too many people hiring (especially “losers” like those in FEMA trailers). Would YOU hire them, Paul?
May 16th, 2007 at 11:20 pmJPark > the trailers were constructed cheaply using too much foam with formaldehyde in it. The gas might keep forming for years in them, so they are unsafe for habitation. Young children and pets can suffer great harm from breathing the gas and even die from it. The trailers should either have the foam ripped out of them or destroy the trailers in a land fill. The manufacturer should be sued and put out of business.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:25 pmHey, if the formaldehyde kills them then we won’t have to bother with these pesky people any longer.
Heaven help us all. We need it. What have we become?
May 16th, 2007 at 11:27 pmI’d like to see Barbara and son sleep in these trailers during their mother/son prison visits.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:27 pmJPark. At what point did the responsibility for their lives become mine (or collectively ours, via the federal government) and not their own. Who should pay your rent? Who should you look to, to make sure you have a job? Who should be responsible for insuring your property? Here’s the answer: You.
It seems like most of you here need some tough love. I will give it to you. Each individual should bear the responsibility for their own well being. 20 months in a government trailer is more than enough. Take responsibility for yourself and your family. Get a job, find a place to live, and get on with your life. It’s the best thing for
May 16th, 2007 at 11:29 pmyou.
I see, Paul. So, as soon as you contract a debilitating disease come and ask me or any other taxpayer to help you out. My personal response would be “F!$k you” but I am sure some of my more tolerant liberal brothers and sisters would help you out. You would have been right at home with the Native Americans that sent their elderly into the woods to die. The difference is they did it out of necessity. You would do it out of greed.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:35 pmpaul,
If you ever suffer a disaster of some sort and lose everything, please don’t look to people like you for help. Look to people like us.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:36 pmpaul > are you aware that our government gives away tons of money to wealthy people with no strings attached, but giving it to poor people pisses you off? I would rather see the poor get helped, than the rich who are parasites.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:38 pmNot me Zoo. If they voted for Reagan or Bush 2 they are on their own.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:39 pmMaybe Paulison has lived in one of these trailers. Maybe that’s why his advice sounds like its from a brain damaged idjit.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:40 pmPaul obviously needs to become one of those hospital dumpees on skidrow from Kaiser Permanente. He could be,like, the paraplegic crawling on the street with the leaking colostomy bag. That would be,like, so cool.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:42 pmNot me Zoo. If they voted for Reagan or Bush 2 they are on their own.
Comment by JPark
As if people like that have anything against lying to get what they want…..
May 16th, 2007 at 11:44 pmJust a reminder: if you smoke Marlboro cigarettes, then be aware they have formaldehyde in them. Our government wants some of us to die. If you must smoke, then use Spirit brand with the Indian on it. That is pure tobacco with no additives.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:45 pmSome people do so on a personal buy, but the Feds always favor a low bid or a crony, same difference.
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 16, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
These are just like the trailers that many low income working people live in. (They would be the same people I’ve seen referred to here several times lately as “trailer trash”. Attempts by enlightened, tolerant liberals to insult people who disagree with them.) Working people who live in trailers until they can afford something better might have a problem with people complaining that they weren’t given better accommodations.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:49 pmNo kidding Jay? As far as I knew all smokes had cyanide, formaldahyde…etc. As an addict…do they have menthol? :)
May 16th, 2007 at 11:50 pmWho should you look to, to make sure you have a job? Who should be responsible for insuring your property? Here’s the answer: You.
Comment by paul — May 16, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
The army corps of engineers is supposed to do things like shore up levees. That wasn’t done. And then you warm hearted republicans deregulate every industry including insurance. Who decided not to pay claims. So when everything you own is destroyed because a government agency f*cked up and your insurance won’t pay a legitimate claim and you still owe money on the property you can’t live in what are you supposed to do? Not that you care.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:50 pmzxz, you post was…disingenuous. But thanks for your compassionate response.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:51 pmJust a reminder: if you smoke Marlboro cigarettes, then be aware they have formaldehyde in them. Our government wants some of us to die. If you must smoke, then use Spirit brand with the Indian on it. That is pure tobacco with no additives.
Comment by Jay Randal — May 16, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
Oh yes, by all means, smoke a brand of CIGARETTE that doesn’t have formaldehyde in it. They’re safe. You certainly don’t want to get formaldehyde poisoning from your CIGARETTES! WTF?????
May 16th, 2007 at 11:55 pmzxz, you post was…disingenuous. But thanks for your compassionate response.
Comment by JPark — May 16, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
May 16th, 2007 at 11:57 pmSo you wouldn’t expect them to have a problem with their tax dollars going to the cause then?
zxz, you are not for people switching to a brand with fewer carcinigens? Wouldn’t that lower health care costs?
May 17th, 2007 at 12:00 amJPark > the formaldehyde keeps the cigarette burning, so it does not need to be relit. Yes some cyanide occurs naturally in some tobacco.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:00 amMarlboro puts a concentrated nicotine in the cigs too to hook you bad.
Well, considering they probably make 15 grand or much less I am guessing their money is going for food to feed their families.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:01 am#55 Hmm, a less concentrated form of nicotine might be a good stepping stone to quitting.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:02 amzxz > I gave that advice to smokers to use only natural tobacco cigarettes. Smoking is bad for your health, but if you must smoke due to addiction, then use Spirit brand or other natural tobacco product.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:04 amNever smoke clove cigarettes. They are pleasurable to smoke, but cause lung inflamation from allergic reaction to burning clove pieces.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:09 amJay, zxz is only addicted to masterbating to liberal blogs. It is only dangerous to his sanity (what he had to start with would just be speculation).
May 17th, 2007 at 12:10 amJPark and Jay Randal, our trolls don’t approve of smoking. Besides, they’re too jacked up on crystal meth to light a match.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:11 amShane, I should have gone to dentistry school. I could make a fortune on Republican tweakers.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:14 amzxz, you are not for people switching to a brand with fewer carcinigens? Wouldn’t that lower health care costs?
Comment by JPark — May 17, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Unless you remove the tar, how much difference is the formaldehyde going to make? Seems smokers aren’t all that worried about cancer, or they’d quit.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:20 amShane > LOL the GOPers like to snort cocaine, because it’s an expensive habit, but they have no idea that coke is cut with all kinds of junk. Powdered sugar is usually used, which is like miniture knives in your nose cutting the membranes. Reason why cocaine users get bloody noses easy. Baking soda is also used to cut it and even baby powder. Chemicals are used to extract the cocaine from coca leaves, so some of that remains in the drug.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:22 amOhhhh, I got it zxz. It is the TAR!!!. I am also guessing you don’t think nicotine is addictive. Do you work for Phillip Morris?
May 17th, 2007 at 12:23 amAnd so, what do you think the administration should have done? Hang a new role of toilet paper? Wiped their a$$es? What a bunch of idiots!
May 17th, 2007 at 12:25 amJPark and Jay Randal, our trolls don’t approve of smoking. Besides, they’re too jacked up on crystal meth to light a match.
Comment by Shane — May 17, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Spoken like a true addict. I’m guessing a poll of meth users would find their opinions closer to yours than mine: no drug laws, let me out of jail even though you have proof I’m selling drugs because what I do in the privacy of my home is my business, I’m not responsible for my behavior because I was on drugs. Kind of hits close to home doesn’t it?
May 17th, 2007 at 12:26 amMikey, wipe YOUR a$$ before speaking please. The smell is unbearable.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:29 amzxz, I see. So, the Arizona desert is overwhelmingly Democrat…right? Oh, and how have those drug laws worked? And you whine about taxes. Wanna build another prison?
May 17th, 2007 at 12:30 amOhhhh, I got it zxz. It is the TAR!!!. I am also guessing you don’t think nicotine is addictive. Do you work for Phillip Morris?
Comment by JPark — May 17, 2007 @ 12:23 am
Good Lord, does everything have to be spelled out for you people? OF COURSE NICOTINE IS ADDICTIVE. I ASSUMED that went without saying. The point was, are people who are unconcerned about sucking tar into their lungs really going to be that concerned about formaldehyde?
May 17th, 2007 at 12:31 amOh, and how have those drug laws worked? And you whine about taxes. Wanna build another prison?
Comment by JPark — May 17, 2007 @ 12:30 am
They’ve provided a handy little means to get rid of some rather nasty folks. I don’t mind a bit paying taxes for prisons to house people who think it’s ok to hurt innocent people. See I care about the innocent people, whereas you want to protect those that hurt the innocent people. Simple enough for you or do I have to clarify that, too?
May 17th, 2007 at 12:37 am#70 Really, zxz? Just because you eat red meat, you must not care about any growth hormones the industry might add. You know, the ones that cause cancer?
May 17th, 2007 at 12:40 am#71 Yes, those bad-a$$ marijuana users are real prone to killing people. Makes you CRAZY!!!!
May 17th, 2007 at 12:41 am#71 Yes, those bad-a$$ marijuana users are real prone to killing people. Makes you CRAZY!!!!
Comment by JPark — May 17, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Perhaps you’ve already forgotten that you and I both referred to Meth, not marijuana. And meth does seem to cause folks to hurt others, or at least users say that’s why they committed their crimes: It was the drugs, it’s not my fault, I’m a stand up guy.
I happen to buy meat and dairy that is SUPPOSEDLY free of hormones. And when cancers caused by growth hormones are proven to approach that caused by cigarettes, you can count on me advising people to avoid it.
May 17th, 2007 at 12:52 amAnd so, what do you think the administration should have done? Hang a new role of toilet paper? Wiped their a$$es? What a bunch of idiots! Comment by michael — May 17, 2007 @ 12:25 am
They should have used you as the toilet paper, considering what an *sswipe you are…
May 17th, 2007 at 1:32 amThe irony of simply preserving the “dead” doesn’t go unnoticed.
May 17th, 2007 at 2:43 am