Bank Counsel Hired By Wolfowitz Is Best Friends With Riza, Attempted To Block Investigation
Bank Counsel Hired By Wolfowitz Is Best Friends With Riza, Attempted To Block Investigation
In 2005, World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz appointed former-Spanish government official Ana Palacio as Bank General Counsel, one of the top positions in the organization. Wolfowitz claimed that he had appointed Palacio for her “legal skill and diplomacy” and for her “exceptional leadership and management capabilities, which he assured “she will bring to this position.”
In reality, she was appointed largely because of her strong support for the Iraq war, and “diplomacy” does not appear to be one of her traits. Highly unpopular within the Bank, an anonymous bank employee speaks up today at the site worldbankpresident.org:
She is known to be overbearing and yell on a regular basis. … She is known to intimidate people by mentioning her proximity to the President. Her conduct can only be characterized as unprofessional. Since the time she has been holding the position, two members of her immediate staff have left after very short periods on the basis of “untenable working conditions”. …. Throughout the Bank, staff find her absent, incoherent, rude and simply not fitted for the job.
Considered a “personal friend” of Shaha Riza’s by bank employees, Palacio has gone to great lengths to deflect the ongoing investigations. As the bank’s top legal counsel, she was supposed to help investigate the pay raise controversy, but she instead tried to stonewall the investigation from even occurring. According to an internal Bank bulletin, a bank employee wrote:
As last week’s Board meeting on Riza-gate was about to commence, Mr. Wolfowitz and Mmes. Cleveland and Palacio barged into the Board room and demanded to participate in the closed-door Board session. An argument ensued between the Board and the executive triumvirate. … Ms. Palacio demanded to stay because she claimed she had a right to remain as counsel to the board. … A needless debate that lasted close to an hour followed and MS. PALACIO REFUSED TO LEAVE THE BOARD ROOM! The board was then forced to adjourn the meeting.
Furthermore, as the controversy began to gain more attention last month, Palacio attempted to deflect attention towards an unrelated investigation, conveniently announcing at the same time that she was looking into a leak of “confidential internal communications” revealed by Fox News.
The abysmal management skills and partisan loyalty that Palacio exhibits reflects how Wolfowitz has loaded the World Bank with unpopular right-wing political appointees with little real effectiveness at the Bank.
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Ever heard of the six degrees of separation? What’s happening now is that everyone within a one or two degrees of separation of Wolfowitz are getting shafted. What a typical leftist witch-hunt.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:00 pmWolfie does seem to favor drag queens.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:02 pmI wonder if Wolfowitz paid to sleep with Palacio. Seems like his style.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:03 pmbank-rupture!
May 16th, 2007 at 5:03 pmNegotiations are underway at this moment regarding Wolfowitz’s departure.
Hmm. Q: Why are almost all of El Busho Supremo’s appointees and his appointee’s appointees such worthless, lying bullies and thugs?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:04 pmA: Fascists of a feather flock together…
#1…it’s called nepotism, not witch-hunt. Please get your facts straight before posting.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:05 pmshe does kinda look like a guy with a bad wig……..
May 16th, 2007 at 5:06 pmmaybe if she unbuttoned her collar she wouldn’t be so cranky….
What a typical leftist witch-hunt.
Comment by BottomBoy — May 16, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
You people f*ck up everything you touch and then blame it on “leftists” or “islamofascists”. Why can’t you neocon nazis take responsibility for anything?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:06 pmClimate Momentum Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made Global Warming – Now Skeptics
May 15, 2007
Posted by Marc Morano – Marc_Morano@EPW.Senate.Gov – 9:14 PM ET
Climate Momentum Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made Global Warming – Now Skeptics
Growing Number of Scientists Convert to Skeptics After Reviewing New Research
Following the U.S. Senate’s vote today on a global warming measure (see today’s AP article: Senate Defeats Climate Change Measure,) it is an opportune time to examine the recent and quite remarkable momentum shift taking place in climate science. Many former believers in catastrophic man-made global warming have recently reversed themselves and are now climate skeptics. The names included below are just a sampling of the prominent scientists who have spoken out recently to oppose former Vice President Al Gore, the United Nations, and the media driven “consensus†on man-made global warming.
The list below is just the tip of the iceberg. A more detailed and comprehensive sampling of scientists who have only recently spoken out against climate hysteria will be forthcoming in a soon to be released U.S. Senate report. Please stay tuned to this website, as this new government report is set to redefine the current climate debate.
In the meantime, please review the list of scientists below and ask yourself why the media is missing one of the biggest stories in climate of 2007. Feel free to distribute the partial list of scientists who recently converted to skeptics to your local schools and universities. The voices of rank and file scientists opposing climate doomsayers can serve as a counter to the alarmism that children are being exposed to on a daily basis. (See Washington Post April 16, 2007 article about kids fearing of a “climactic Armageddon†)
May 16th, 2007 at 5:07 pmpsss…. hey TP, that’s really a dude…
May 16th, 2007 at 5:07 pmI don’t know that the term loaded with appointees is correct, but damn Wolfie really stepped in it, the question is, who will go first him or Gonzo? One guess who has a better chance of jail term.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pmI wonder if Wolfowitz paid to sleep with Palacio. Seems like his style.
Comment by VerbalKint — May 16, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
If he did, he took lessons from the Democratic Party leadership. They are the true experts at this. Ask your god Clinton.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pmHarriett, Alberto and Ana
The Three Horsemen of the Incompetence
May 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pmSir Walter Scott, Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive. …
May 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pmStacking the deck with loyal losers – stack the courts – stack the DOJ – stack the World Bank – these are the actions of criminals, very, very Mafia like.
Hating the Repukian Mafia daily
May 16th, 2007 at 5:10 pmWhat a typical leftist witch-hunt.
Comment by BottomBoy — May 16, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
You people f*ck up everything you touch and then blame it on “leftists†or “islamofascistsâ€. Why can’t you neocon nazis take responsibility for anything?
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
the typical ignorant, poorly educated left wing nut job……why are you liberal wingnuts so predictable. “Nazis”? obviously you don’t have a clue to who or what a nazi is.
stupid, stupid, stupid Liberals. Oh I forgot, your god Moore told you that right wingers are nazis. my bad.
poor stupid sheep.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:10 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
I would be very surprised if Bill ever paid for “it.”
May 16th, 2007 at 5:10 pmAs always, LIberals on the wrong side of the issue. Nothing new.
Mathematician & engineer Dr. David Evans, who did carbon accounting for the Australian Government, recently detailed his conversion to a skeptic. “I devoted six years to carbon accounting, building models for the Australian government to estimate carbon emissions from land use change and forestry. When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty conclusive, but since then new evidence has weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause. I am now skeptical,†Evans wrote in an April 30, 2007 blog. “But after 2000 the evidence for carbon emissions gradually got weaker — better temperature data for the last century, more detailed ice core data, then laboratory evidence that cosmic rays precipitate low clouds,†Evans wrote. “As Lord Keynes famously said, ‘When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?’†he added. Evans noted how he benefited from climate fears as a scientist. “And the political realm in turn fed money back into the scientific community. By the late 1990’s, lots of jobs depended on the idea that carbon emissions caused global warming. Many of them were bureaucratic, but there were a lot of science jobs created too. I was on that gravy train, making a high wage in a science job that would not have existed if we didn’t believe carbon emissions caused global warming. And so were lots of people around me; and there were international conferences full of such people. And we had political support, the ear of government, big budgets, and we felt fairly important and useful (well, I did anyway). It was great. We were working to save the planet! But starting in about 2000, the last three of the four pieces of evidence outlined above fell away or reversed,†Evans wrote. “The pre-2000 ice core data was the central evidence for believing that atmospheric carbon caused temperature increases. The new ice core data shows that past warmings were *not* initially caused by rises in atmospheric carbon, and says nothing about the strength of any amplification. This piece of evidence casts reasonable doubt that atmospheric carbon had any role in past warmings, while still allowing the possibility that it had a supporting role,†he added. “Unfortunately politics and science have become even more entangled. The science of global warming has become a partisan political issue, so positions become more entrenched. Politicians and the public prefer simple and less-nuanced messages. At the moment the political climate strongly supports carbon emissions as the cause of global warming, to the point of sometimes rubbishing or silencing critics,†he concluded. (Evans bio link )
Climate researcher Dr. Tad Murty, former Senior Research Scientist for Fisheries and Oceans in Canada, also reversed himself from believer in man-made climate change to a skeptic. “I stated with a firm belief about global warming, until I started working on it myself,†Murty explained on August 17, 2006. “I switched to the other side in the early 1990’s when Fisheries and Oceans Canada asked me to prepare a position paper and I started to look into the problem seriously,†Murty explained. Murty was one of the 60 scientists who wrote an April 6, 2006 letter urging withdrawal of Kyoto to Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper which stated in part, “If, back in the mid-1990s, we knew what we know today about climate, Kyoto would almost certainly not exist, because we would have concluded it was not necessary.â€
Botanist Dr. David Bellamy, a famed UK environmental campaigner, former lecturer at Durham University and host of a popular UK TV series on wildlife, recently converted into a skeptic after reviewing the science and now calls global warming fears “poppycock.” According to a May 15, 2005 article in the UK Sunday Times, Bellamy said “global warming is largely a natural phenomenon. The world is wasting stupendous amounts of money on trying to fix something that can’t be fixed.†“The climate-change people have no proof for their claims. They have computer models which do not prove anything,†Bellamy added. Bellamy’s conversion on global warming did not come without a sacrifice as several environmental groups have ended their association with him because of his views on climate change. The severing of relations came despite Bellamy’s long activism for green campaigns. The UK Times reported Bellamy “won respect from hardline environmentalists with his campaigns to save Britain’s peat bogs and other endangered habitats. In Tasmania he was arrested when he tried to prevent loggers cutting down a rainforest.â€
Climate scientist Dr. Chris de Freitas of The University of Auckland, N.Z., also converted from a believer in man-made global warming to a skeptic. “At first I accepted that increases in human caused additions of carbon dioxide and methane in the atmosphere would trigger changes in water vapor etc. and lead to dangerous ‘global warming,’ But with time and with the results of research, I formed the view that, although it makes for a good story, it is unlikely that the man-made changes are drivers of significant climate variation.†de Freitas wrote on August 17, 2006. “I accept there may be small changes. But I see the risk of anything serious to be minute,†he added. “One could reasonably argue that lack of evidence is not a good reason for complacency. But I believe the billions of dollars committed to GW research and lobbying for GW and for Kyoto treaties etc could be better spent on uncontroversial and very real environmental problems (such as air pollution, poor sanitation, provision of clean water and improved health services) that we know affect tens of millions of people,†de Freitas concluded. de Freitas was one of the 60 scientists who wrote an April 6, 2006 letter urging withdrawal of Kyoto to Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper which stated in part, “Significant [scientific] advances have been made since the [Kyoto] protocol was created, many of which are taking us away from a concern about increasing greenhouse gases.â€
Meteorologist Dr. Reid Bryson, the founding chairman of the Department of Meteorology at University of Wisconsin (now the Department of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences, was pivotal in promoting the coming ice age scare of the 1970’s ( See Time Magazine’s 1974 article “Another Ice Age†citing Bryson: & see Newsweek’s 1975 article “The Cooling World†citing Bryson) has now converted into a leading global warming skeptic. In February 8, 2007 Bryson dismissed what he terms “sky is falling” man-made global warming fears. Bryson, was on the United Nations Global 500 Roll of Honor and was identified by the British Institute of Geographers as the most frequently cited climatologist in the world. “Before there were enough people to make any difference at all, two million years ago, nobody was changing the climate, yet the climate was changing, okay?†Bryson told the May 2007 issue of Energy Cooperative News. “All this argument is the temperature going up or not, it’s absurd. Of course it’s going up. It has gone up since the early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age, not because we’re putting more carbon dioxide into the air,†Bryson said. “You can go outside and spit and have the same effect as doubling carbon dioxide,†he added. “We cannot say what part of that warming was due to mankind’s addition of ‘greenhouse gases’ until we consider the other possible factors, such as aerosols. The aerosol content of the atmosphere was measured during the past century, but to my knowledge this data was never used. We can say that the question of anthropogenic modification of the climate is an important question — too important to ignore. However, it has now become a media free-for-all and a political issue more than a scientific problem,†Bryson explained in 2005.
Global warming author and economist Hans H.J. Labohm started out as a man-made global warming believer but he later switched his view after conducting climate research. Labohm wrote on August 19, 2006, “I started as a anthropogenic global warming believer, then I read the [UN’s IPCC] Summary for Policymakers and the research of prominent skeptics.†“After that, I changed my mind,†Labohn explained. Labohn co-authored the 2004 book “Man-Made Global Warming: Unraveling a Dogma,†with chemical engineer Dick Thoenes who was the former chairman of the Royal Netherlands Chemical Society. Labohm was one of the 60 scientists who wrote an April 6, 2006 letter urging withdrawal of Kyoto to Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper which stated in part, “’Climate change is real’ is a meaningless phrase used repeatedly by activists to convince the public that a climate catastrophe is looming and humanity is the cause. Neither of these fears is justified. Global climate changes all the time due to natural causes and the human impact still remains impossible to distinguish from this natural ‘noise.’â€
Paleoclimatologist Tim Patterson, of Carlton University in Ottawa converted from believer in C02 driving the climate change to a skeptic. “I taught my students that CO2 was the prime driver of climate change,†Patterson wrote on April 30, 2007. Patterson said his “conversion†happened following his research on “the nature of paleo-commercial fish populations in the NE Pacific.†“[My conversion from believer to climate skeptic] came about approximately 5-6 years ago when results began to come in from a major NSERC (Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada) Strategic Project Grant where I was PI (principle investigator),†Patterson explained. “Over the course of about a year, I switched allegiances,†he wrote. “As the proxy results began to come in, we were astounded to find that paleoclimatic and paleoproductivity records were full of cycles that corresponded to various sun-spot cycles. About that time, [geochemist] Jan Veizer and others began to publish reasonable hypotheses as to how solar signals could be amplified and control climate,†Patterson noted. Patterson says his conversion “probably cost me a lot of grant money. However, as a scientist I go where the science takes me and not were activists want me to go.†Patterson now asserts that more and more scientists are converting to climate skeptics. “When I go to a scientific meeting, there’s lots of opinion out there, there’s lots of discussion (about climate change). I was at the Geological Society of America meeting in Philadelphia in the fall and I would say that people with my opinion were probably in the majority,†Patterson told the Winnipeg Sun on February 13, 2007. Patterson, who believes the sun is responsible for the recent warm up of the Earth, ridiculed the environmentalists and the media for not reporting the truth. “But if you listen to [Canadian environmental activist David] Suzuki and the media, it’s like a tiger chasing its tail. They try to outdo each other and all the while proclaiming that the debate is over but it isn’t — come out to a scientific meeting sometime,†Patterson said. In a separate interview on April 26, 2007 with a Canadian newspaper, Patterson explained that the scientific proof favors skeptics. “I think the proof in the pudding, based on what (media and governments) are saying, (is) we’re about three quarters of the way (to disaster) with the doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere,” he said. “The world should be heating up like crazy by now, and it’s not. The temperatures match very closely with the solar cycles.”
May 16th, 2007 at 5:11 pmstaff find “him” absent, incoherent, rude and simply staff find her absent, incoherent, rude and simply not fitted for the job.not fitted for the job.
This could have easily been about the chymp, heh?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:11 pmooops, pardon the double paste…
May 16th, 2007 at 5:12 pm“She is known to be overbearing and yell on a regular basis”
I’d like to tell women in positions of authority who think they must act like “men” (their idea of a man, and not most men), stop it.
We’ll never get taken seriously when you militant overseers act like this. You actually have more options for personality styles than simply doormat or raging beyotch. Confident but fair is a very valid middle ground.
Sheesh… Another step backward for gender equality.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:12 pmQuite frankly, I’m appalled at the slurs by the so called progerssives in this thread. I don’t think there’s any doubt of Ms. Palacio’s sex.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:12 pmSir Walter Scott, Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive. …
Comment by Kevin Good — May 16, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
You would think that Republicans learned their lesson from the lies of the Democratic Party, right? I guess politicians are all one and the same.
Although, the Democratic Party is an expert at sleeping with friends and then giving them hire salaries and putting them in position of power.
but shit, let us not forget that Democrats believe that only Democrats can break the law and get away with it. If a Republican dares to do the same, well you know, he wasn’t a Democrat.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:12 pm9…”The names included below are just a sampling of the prominent scientists who have spoken out…”
The only name I see “below” is Valiantthehater and I don’t think he/she is a scientist…not that it would matter.
Please re-read the story and try to stay on topic. I know it’s difficult for you, but please try.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:13 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
I’m curious, in any of your face to face contact with people, do you often hear the following; “cuckoo for cocoa puffs”?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:13 pmThat’s not a woman, that’s a man, baby!
–Sorry, Austin Powers :D
May 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pm“What a typical leftist witch-hunt.
Comment by BottomBoy — May 16, 2007 @ 5:00 pm”
Your analogy is ridiculous since the only people to go on witch hunts have been conservatives…
Revoke NCLB! A mind is a terrible thing to waste on a troll.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pm#23…”the Republican Party is an expert at sleeping with friends and then giving them hire salaries and putting them in position of power.”
There. Fixed it for you. No need to thank me.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:16 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
I’m curious, in any of your face to face contact with people, do you often hear the following; “cuckoo for cocoa puffs�
Comment by Namtillaku — May 16, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
you know, actually no. but when your name comes up, everyone starts telling me what a left wing wacko you are. go figure right?
too easy, way too easy.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:16 pm“Why can’t you neocon nazis take responsibility for anything?
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 5:06 pm”
‘Cuz they are afraid of going to a hell for being caught with their hand in the cookie jar…
May 16th, 2007 at 5:17 pmI’m curious, in any of your face to face contact with people, do you often hear the following; “cuckoo for cocoa puffs�
Comment by Namtillaku
Or, “I gotta go, I’m late for my prostate exam.”
May 16th, 2007 at 5:18 pmLooks like the troll forgot to take his meds.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:18 pmpoor stupid sheep.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
Looking in the mirror again? really don’t flatter yourselves. You neoconNazi trolls are more like puppets. Tell us, do you all have the same puppetmaster’s hand up your ass?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:19 pmthe typical ignorant, poorly educated left wing nut job……why are you liberal wingnuts so predictable. “Nazis� obviously you don’t have a clue to who or what a nazi is.
stupid, stupid, stupid Liberals. Oh I forgot, your god Moore told you that right wingers are nazis. my bad.
poor stupid sheep.
Comment by Valiantthehater
Flattery will get you nowhere with me, sh^thead. Besides your shrillness would make it impossible to communicate with you. Just like W, you are a decider: you decide bush should be king, you decide left is bad, you decide administration criminality is good, you decide oversight is bad, you decide neverending war is good, you decide peace is bad. Maybe there is a country on the earth which would suit you – how about China?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pmstaff find “him†absent, incoherent, rude and simply staff find her absent, incoherent, rude and simply not fitted for the job.not fitted for the job.
This could have easily been about the chymp, heh?
Comment by RUCerious — May 16, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
You know that is exactly what Monica said about Hillary and Clinton until they had a threesome. I think Juanita Broderick said the same thing, but clinton raped her and the Democratic Party silenced her.
I have also heard the same thing about Pelosi, Boxer, Hellary, Murtha, Kennedy, kerry, Edwards, Kucinich…
Imagine that….once again, Republicans taking their cues from Democrats.
When will Republican learn, Democrats are an inferior group of individuals, immitating them is only going to get you in trouble. :)
May 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pm#29: Wrong. It’s because we define what’s right and wrong.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pmPut a blonde wig on that Palacio and you’ve got Ana Coulter. Yup, I guess it is a man.
As for Wolf-Whiz, he certainly is a lightning-rod for Shiite, isn’t he?
Sure hope I will read of his “resignation” by the end of the day. This thing has dragged on way too long — just like Gonzo and GDumbya, he’s merely twisting in the wind.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
I’m curious, in any of your face to face contact with people, do you often hear the following; “cuckoo for cocoa puffs�
Comment by Namtillaku — May 16, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
He hears a lot of “crazy as a loon” too I’ll bet.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:21 pmyou know, actually no. but when your name comes up, everyone starts telling me what a left wing wacko you are. go figure right?
too easy, way too easy.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
Who is this everyone you refer to? Your doctor and all the other patients?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:21 pmWe know damn well what a Nazi is, we are visited by them on a daily basis. You should educate yourself on what a Nazi is and then you might not be so ready to be such and an apologist for your Nazi masters.
Stupid stupid NeoCon.
And what the hell does Roger Moore have to do with anything?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:22 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
Hey nutwad I was just defending you. Another poster said you weren’t fit to sleep with the pigs and I said you were.
Not showing much gratitude are you?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:23 pm33…”Oh I forgot, your god Moore told you that right wingers are nazis.”
Comment by Valiantthehater
I do not worship Laura Petrie.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:23 pm“The abysmal management skills and partisan loyalty that Palacio exhibits reflects how Wolfowitz has loaded the World Bank with unpopular right-wing political appointees with little real effectiveness at the Bank.”
Why should the World Bank be any different from any of the US Government agencies and the Bush Administration? The Republicans have proven, once again, that they are unfit to lead and only want to enrich their friends and themselves. Heck of a job, Republicans.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:24 pm“Why can’t you neocon nazis take responsibility for anything?
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 5:06 pmâ€
‘Cuz they are afraid of going to a hell for being caught with their hand in the cookie jar…
Comment by unbelievable — May 16, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
another idiot using the nazi anology. how stupid can Liberals be? read unbelievable, shanes, shit….all the Liberal posts on this thread. complete and utter stupidity
May 16th, 2007 at 5:25 pmSpudge: If you think we’re nazis, you don’t have any idea what a nazi is.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:25 pmIt is simply astonishing that anyone would defend Wolfowitz. Anyone of any political persuasion and ideology. There is absolutely nothing redeemable in Wolfowitz’s behavior. To defend him illustrates the utter moral bankruptcy of the trolls, not to mention their staggering idiocy.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:26 pmDifferent strokes for different folks but she does look a lot like the guy who played Mozart in Amadeus don’t you think?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:26 pmPaleoclimatologist Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor of the Department of Earth Sciences at University of Ottawa, reversed his views on man-made climate change after further examining the evidence. “I used to agree with these dramatic warnings of climate disaster. I taught my students that most of the increase in temperature of the past century was due to human contribution of C02. The association seemed so clear and simple. Increases of greenhouse gases were driving us towards a climate catastrophe,†Clark said in a 2005 documentary “Climate Catastrophe Cancelled: What You’re Not Being Told About the Science of Climate Change.†“However, a few years ago, I decided to look more closely at the science and it astonished me. In fact there is no evidence of humans being the cause. There is, however, overwhelming evidence of natural causes such as changes in the output of the sun. This has completely reversed my views on the Kyoto protocol,†Clark explained. “Actually, many other leading climate researchers also have serious concerns about the science underlying the [Kyoto] Protocol,†he added.
Environmental geochemist Dr. Jan Veizer, professor emeritus of University of Ottawa, converted from believer to skeptic after conducting scientific studies of climate history. “I simply accepted the (global warming) theory as given,†Veizer wrote on April 30, 2007 about predictions that increasing C02 in the atmosphere was leading to a climate catastrophe. “The final conversion came when I realized that the solar/cosmic ray connection gave far more consistent picture with climate, over many time scales, than did the CO2 scenario,†Veizer wrote. “It was the results of my work on past records, on geological time scales, that led me to realize the discrepancies with empirical observations. Trying to understand the background issues of modeling led to realization of the assumptions and uncertainties involved,†Veizer explained. “The past record strongly favors the solar/cosmic alternative as the principal climate driver,†he added. Veizer acknowledgez the Earth has been warming and he believes in the scientific value of climate modeling. “The major point where I diverge from the IPCC scenario is my belief that it underestimates the role of natural variability by proclaiming CO2 to be the only reasonable source of additional energy in the planetary balance. Such additional energy is needed to drive the climate. The point is that most of the temperature, in both nature and models, arises from the greenhouse of water vapor (model language ‘positive water vapor feedback’,) Veizer wrote. “Thus to get more temperature, more water vapor is needed. This is achieved by speeding up the water cycle by inputting more energy into the system,†he continued. “Note that it is not CO2 that is in the models but its presumed energy equivalent (model language ‘prescribed CO2’). Yet, the models (and climate) would generate a more or less similar outcome regardless where this additional energy is coming from. This is why the solar/cosmic connection is so strongly opposed, because it can influence the global energy budget which, in turn, diminishes the need for an energy input from the CO2 greenhouse,†he wrote.
More to follow…
May 16th, 2007 at 5:26 pmWow. ReichWingNuts really… um… well, let’s turn to the Bible and see what motivates these NutWads, shall we?
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20
When I see the picture at the top of this story I know these ChristoFascists are all f*cked up!
May 16th, 2007 at 5:27 pmEver since the repugnant and repulsive Mighty Aphrodite was outed, she has gone from bad to worse, and is now verging on derangement.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:27 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
Who is this everyone you refer to? Your doctor and all the other patients?
Comment by Namtillaku — May 16, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
All the good little troll locksteppers waiting for their electroshock therapy. I think he needs to get in the lobotomy line now.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:27 pmvalienttheshiteatingcunt,
Do you never tire of defending Bush and the Boyz??? What a sick and vile psycho you are. Please seek professional help.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:28 pm34. Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Just keep making shit up. After all you have to keep your reputation as the lyingest troll on TP.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:28 pmJust give up on the global warming propaganda, idiot. Nobody is reading it, nobody believes it. The matter has been settled and the world is moving on.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:29 pmMore to follow…
Comment by Valiantthehater
More utterly irrelevant off-topic posts? Thanks for the warning.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:29 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Stop posting that shit, you f*cking plagarizer. These threads are NOT global warming threads.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:30 pmshanes, shit….all the Liberal posts on this thread. complete and utter stupidity
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Still doesn’t explain why everybody affiliated with this administration refuses to take responsibility for anything. Got an answer for that?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:31 pmhey bushies… whats the final outcome for him you crybabies?
yup FIRED!
May 16th, 2007 at 5:31 pmSpudge: If you think we’re nazis, you don’t have any idea what a nazi is.
Comment by BottomBoy — May 16, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
BottomBoy, these left wing stooges are good for one thing, to point at and laugh at them. Trying to have a coherent, intelligent, well thought out conversation is like trying to have a conversation with a sheep.
They will spew out over and over again what the left wing had brainwashed them to believe.
sad, truly sad to see the tools of the left.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:31 pmTrolls are on “automatic.” Anytime a republican who is involved in illegal or unethical behavior is mentioned, trolls automatically defend them. They can’t think for themselves so they continually look for ways to be brainwashed by the Republican party. This way they can live in their own little fantasy world in their alternate universe.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:32 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Are you crying now, boohoo the progressives are picking on me. Please stick your head back up your ass, it has become dislodged and is spewing shit everywhere.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:33 pm“another idiot using the nazi anology.”
Nazis? I fear the pot just called the kitchen sink “black”. To educate you – I was referencing the bible – specifically the New Testament where Jesus introduced Hell to his ‘flock’, to fear them into copitulation. It’s the mantra of the religious right. It’s why the neocons refuse to accept responsibility for their own heinous acts – to avoid an eternal damnation that they fear.
“how stupid can Liberals be?”
Considering most people with advanced college degrees are liberal, well, unless your definition of stupid is ‘highly educated’, you have a reality conflict.
“read unbelievable, shanes, shit….all the Liberal posts on this thread. complete and utter stupidity
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:25 pm”
I don’t suppose you have an explanation for why you’ve come to that ridiculous conclusion… You just jerk-off here for juvenile thrills, right?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:34 pmIf you think we’re nazis, you don’t have any idea what a nazi is.
Comment by BottomBoy — May 16, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Uh yes we do. Maybe you need to look at yourselves and your leaders.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:34 pm“…staff find her absent, incoherent, rude and simply not fitted for the job….”
Pretty much describes the whole Bush admin. It all starts at the top.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:35 pmOh and bottomsupboy,
May 16th, 2007 at 5:36 pmVladimir Putin said that the administrations policies reminded him of Nazi Germany. But what does he know, he’s not a good little BushReicher.
Since when is hatred valient?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:36 pmDifferent strokes for different folks but she does look a lot like the guy who played Mozart in Amadeus don’t you think?
Comment by margaret — May 16, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
NO, I think that guy is cute.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:37 pmshanes, shit….all the Liberal posts on this thread. complete and utter stupidity
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Still doesn’t explain why everybody affiliated with this administration refuses to take responsibility for anything. Got an answer for that?
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
and shane says….blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blha, blah, blah, blha, blah…..Bush is evil….blah, blah, blah, blah blah……conservatives are nazis…..blah, blah,b lah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…….Liberals are very tolerant people….blah, blah, blah, blah….but if you disagree with us we are not going to tolerate you…..blah, blah, blah, blah………Bush is evil…..blah, blah, blah, blah……..”
May 16th, 2007 at 5:38 pmsad, truly sad to see the tools of the left.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
But it sure is fun to see you two circle jerks have a meaningful exchange. Touching, really. Two losers, one brain.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:39 pmI think she looks more like Phil Spector in a red wig.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:40 pm#45: Ok, so I try not to get upset when posting here (because most of the stuff I see rubs me the wrong way), but the “moral argument” really pisses me off.
You say “To defend him illustrates the utter moral bankruptcy of the trolls, not to mention their staggering idiocy”.
I can deal with the idiocy insult, because I know that my IQ is well in the top 0.5% percentile. However, something like “moral bankruptcy” – thrown around just casually like that – really ticks me off.
I know perfectly well what I’m doing. What I am doing is not moral, it’s not immoral. It’s just amoral. There is no god, there is no justice, there is no right or wrong except for the standards we want to define for convenience.
I’ve nothing but utmost disdain for the religious right idiots, but they give us votes. Therefore, I tolerate them. These morons have deep, flawed, moral convictions. I’ve never understood why you liberals insist on falling in the same trap of self-limitation. You are bound by your quaint concepts of morality.
If you want evidence, the impotence of the 110th Congress is perfect demonstration of where it leads.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:41 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070516/ap_on_bi_ge/world_bank_wolfowitz
A little update on Wolfie, seems he wants to negotiate and agreement, that he is not totally responsible for the giving his GF a freaking huge pay raise and job, what a chump.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:42 pmValiantthehater says blahblach leftists are evil blahblahblah Clinton is a god to leftists, except neocons are the ones who keep mentioning him blahblahblah you are all lambs, and O’Reilly viewers are not blah blah blah we are all in a rut because we are partisan blah blah blah you are wrong because you don’t believe in what I believe in blah blah blah I hate everyone let’s act like primitive apes blah blah blah I hate being me.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:43 pmValiantthehater, it’s time for you to log off and return to your padded cell. Sorry, everyone, that I couldn’t find her earlier.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:43 pmbottomboy, um, no, we aren’t.
Clean up on Aisle 5!
May 16th, 2007 at 5:43 pmBottomBoy, it’s time for you, too, to log off and return to your padded cell.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:44 pmOhhhh Shane,
That idiot troll really got you in #66. How will you ever recover? :D
May 16th, 2007 at 5:45 pmOh and bottomsupboy,
Vladimir Putin said that the administrations policies reminded him of Nazi Germany. But what does he know, he’s not a good little BushReicher.
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
yeah, let’s believe Vladimir Putin, an ex-KGB officer, who single handedly has taken Russia back to the Soviet Union era…oh wait, left wingtards have always admired, worshiped and suck the c@ck out of the Soviet Union.
I take it you take the word of Vladimir Putin who has centralized elections, doesn’t allow local elections, doesn’t allow opposition parties. doesn’t allow anti-russian government demonstrations.
yeah, let’s believe this guy.
stupid, stupid, stupid Libtard.
now we know who the true authoratirain worshiper
stupid, pure and simple stupidity.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:46 pm#71…Hilarious
May 16th, 2007 at 5:46 pm“Touching, really. Two losers, one brain.
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 5:39 pm”
LOL
May 16th, 2007 at 5:46 pmsad, truly sad to see the tools of the left.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
But it sure is fun to see you two circle jerks have a meaningful exchange. Touching, really. Two losers, one brain.
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
i know tell me about it, it was really touching to Shane the Libtard and unbelieve the retard exchange words and hug and kiss each other. It was truly touching. I am right with you, two losers, one brain.
Well said tool of the left Shane.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:48 pmBottomfeederBoy,
Nobody here cares what you’re doing or what your motives are. All you trolls do is detract from the posts.
If you don’t like the way you’re disrespected here go to some conservative site and whine to them. You won’t be missed.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:48 pmWow. The troll is a genius. Who would have guessed? Why is it that trolls are always geniuses?
It reminds me of people who believe in reincarnation. In their previous lives, they were always royalty, never serfs. The power of imagination is a wonderful thing.
“I smart. I genius!”
guffaw
May 16th, 2007 at 5:50 pmZooey,
I’m just impressed that Vth spelled blah correctly, well most of the time.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:51 pmYou can say that all you want, but it doesn’t make you right. One of my favorite subjects of study in my entire life is WWII. You people qualify. You need to do some research.
You can say that you aren’t like them until you are blue in the face, but until you have done some research, you are just willfully ignorant about this topic as you are with just about everything else, but being queer.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:53 pmMan, Valiant scum sucking knuckle dragging subhuman douche bag must have taken a fist full of Stupid Pills today, you are just laughable.
Hating Valiant scum sucking knuckle dragging subhuman douche bag daily
May 16th, 2007 at 5:54 pmyeah, let’s believe Vladimir Putin, an ex-KGB officer, who single handedly has taken Russia back to the Soviet Union era
I take it you take the word of Vladimir Putin who has centralized elections, doesn’t allow local elections, doesn’t allow opposition parties. doesn’t allow anti-russian government demonstrations.Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
Vth, I said Vladimir Putin and you’re describing the Bush Regime/Administration. Bush certainly is making this seem like the Soviet Union. Thanks for pointing that out.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:54 pmWell said tool of the left Shane.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
That right, why don’t you try it sometime yourself. You’re tiresome droning isn’t accomplishing anything unless it’s naptime at the kindergarten.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:56 pm“I smart. I genius!â€
guffaw
Comment by gummitch — May 16, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
And they’re always independents. Oh and experts on constitutional law.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:58 pmHating Valiant scum sucking knuckle dragging subhuman douche bag daily
Comment by Buck Fush — May 16, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
I don’t think he needs to take them any more. He just has “stupid pill flashbacks”.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:59 pmhttp://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070516/OPINION02/70515043/1053
May 16th, 2007 at 6:00 pmButtBoy,
Moral bankruptcy hasn’t been casually thrown out, but carefully considered then hung on your ass, where it belongs.
You Bush defenders have the blood of our soldiers on your hands, and their deaths on your souls. You choose to defend your Beloved Leader’s ego at the expense of our country’s finest, not t o mention our resources and honor.
Morally bankrupt? More like evil sick psychotics.
And my IQ is in the top .1% bitch.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:03 pmAna P. the ugliest man at the world bank.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:04 pmComment by True Leaders Lead — May 16, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Thanks for the link. So true, so true.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:04 pmyeah, let’s believe Vladimir Putin, an ex-KGB officer, who single handedly has taken Russia back to the Soviet Union era
I take it you take the word of Vladimir Putin who has centralized elections, doesn’t allow local elections, doesn’t allow opposition parties. doesn’t allow anti-russian government demonstrations.Comment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
Vth, I said Vladimir Putin and you’re describing the Bush Regime/Administration. Bush certainly is making this seem like the Soviet Union. Thanks for pointing that out.
Comment by Shane — May 16, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
stupid, stupid, stupid….do tell, when’s the last time, retard that the CIA forced anti-Bush demonstrators out of the street? give date, time, and link, retard…
while you are it….do tell when local elections were cancelled by the Bush administration….give date, time and link.
furthermore, retard, do tell when’s the last time that Bush forbade the Democratic Party from holding meetings, running their elections, appearing in public, etc, etc…
and you can continue by showing the date, time and date that anti-Bush Liberals have been imprisoned.
stupid, plain and utter stupidity.
keep on posting Shane the retard. You only prove what I have always known of wacked out stupid, leftw ing retards, that you poor imbeciles are tools, sheeps that blindly follow anything that the left tells you.
sad, it must be really sad to be you.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:06 pm#90: Oh well, that .1% is serving the nation well then – in a permanent minority. Maybe you would like to reconsider. You know. Maybe you could actually achieve something.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:13 pmWow! Valienttheshiteatingcunt is really losing it. Must be hard to have so many failures coming down at the same time. I can just see her head exploding.
And all those maggots and cockroaches, free at last!
May 16th, 2007 at 6:15 pmI know that my IQ is well in the top 0.5% percentile.
Comment by BottomBoy — May 16, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Oh! I just pissed myself. He’s brandishing his superior intellect.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:17 pmButtBoy,
I pay more in taxes than you make. I am serving the country well.
Speaking of permanent minority, wait until ‘08 for the Repugnicunt ass kicking of all time. You can thank Bush for tanking your party for a long, long time.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:18 pmjesus, check her saliva.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:22 pmWow! Valienttheshiteatingcunt is really losing it. Must be hard to have so many failures coming down at the same time. I can just see her head exploding.
And all those maggots and cockroaches, free at last!
Comment by nanlichi — May 16, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
failures? according to individuals that hold Clinton as the greatest thing that ever happened to the Democratic party? I rather have the Republican so called failures, than what you Libtards called Democratic Party successes.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:23 pmYou know, I’m beginning to think that ButtplugBoy might be lying about his IQ.
I would think the appropriate convention would be either 0.5% or 0.5 percentile. But not both. It’s like saying $4 dollars.
The way he says it, it sounds like he made it up.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:25 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 16, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
8 years of peace
23 million new jobs
balanced budget for four years
3.7% average annual GDP growth
Those kinds of “failures” I could do forever.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:33 pmStains on Humanity.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:37 pmOh, come on Pete, all those things were great for the country to be sure, but the man lied about a blowjob!
And at least until Jeffy Lube spills the beans, Bush won’t have to do that.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:42 pmSo Pete is that how things are going in your Fantasy America game?
May 16th, 2007 at 6:44 pmWow, they could do an update of Mean Girls and set it in the World Bank.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:45 pmOh, sorry about that Pete, that read like several wingnut quotes of Bush’s tenure I’ve seen recently.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:46 pm#34 ~ Incoherent second planet thing. If all you got is a lame ass yuck about Clinton, please take the time to print out this page and cram it up yer ass.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:48 pmQuite the harem old Wolfie has there. Bet you’d turn to stone, like seeing Medusa, if you caught them in flagrante delicto. Ugh.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:50 pmWolfie, Alberto, DeLay, Cunningham, Neil Bush, Jeb Bush, George Bush, Poppy, et al. are all members of the BFEE (Bush Family Evil Empire). The Bush family has been a crime family going back to the beginning. They just learned to do it through corporations and make it look legal. They’ll toss anybody (maybe even Dumya) overboard if it looks like he threatans the cash flow. These guys make the Sopranos look like sissies.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:55 pmAs I read the troll posts one thing seems very consistent – they have a limited understanding of the English language. So, fellow libs, let us understand that the reason they parrot the Republican noise machine is that they don’t understand what all the big words mean. Poor things.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:04 pmgeoman77: not to worry- Wolfie just throws a flag over their heads and do ‘em for “Old Glory”. snark.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:22 pmBottomboy: “I know perfectly well what I’m doing. What I am doing is not moral, it’s not immoral. It’s just amoral. There is no god, there is no justice, there is no right or wrong except for the standards we want to define for convenience.”
At least he’s somewhat honest. But to brag about being amoral….. yikes. How Third Reich of you. I’ve got some news for you reichboy — as far as the Founders of our country were concerned, to be amoral was to be unamerican.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:23 pmPete, let’s add 8 straight years of lowering poverty rates and 8 straight years of declining abortion rates.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:26 pmFunniest post on this thread:
Harriett, Alberto and Ana
May 16th, 2007 at 7:27 pmThe Three Horsemen of the Incompetence
Comment by raynman — May 16, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
geoman77: not to worry- Wolfie just throws a flag over their heads and do ‘em for “Old Gloryâ€. snark.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Ick.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:36 pmZooey; that would be THE worst case of flag desecration imaginable.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:53 pmNo end to the corruption associated with the Bush Regime which spread into the World Bank via Wolfowitz.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:16 pmWhoah, learned her skills in constituional government from General Franco eh?
May 16th, 2007 at 8:21 pmSo this is where Ronnie James Dio ended up after his band broke up. Explains the screaming
May 16th, 2007 at 8:23 pmBottomBoy and Valiantthehater and others seem to think this is about left and right; its not, its about wrong and right. Everyone who disagrees with your opinion on politics it not your evil enemy; just someone who sees things from a different view. So please lighten up and look for the truth that is somewhere in the middle of all the retoric.
May 16th, 2007 at 9:32 pmI wonder if PNAC superstar Wolfie will get nasty enough to start spilling the beans on his PNAC requested “New Pearl Harbor” attack on his own country. He knows everything.
May 16th, 2007 at 9:42 pmPalacio was Minister of the rightists government of José MarÃa Aznar, the Spanish Poodle of Aznar, who helped launch the war with Iraq in the infamous meeting in the Azores Islands, in 2003…
May 17th, 2007 at 6:48 am…and here had a (well deserved) fame of having exceptionally BAD leadership and management capabilities.
May 17th, 2007 at 6:54 amNot to mention that she’s from an old and rancid rightist family with nobiliary titles, and has other relatives in the rightist party of Aznar, the Partido Popular.
May 17th, 2007 at 7:06 amValient,
You said, “yeah, let’s believe Vladimir Putin, an ex-KGB officer.”
Wait a minute…..Didn’t Chimpy McFlightsuit look into his soul and verify for all the world what a great man he is?
May 17th, 2007 at 9:49 am