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Army coaching recruits on how to beat drug tests.»

“As the war in Iraq rages on, the battle to find new fighting men and women is waged everyday in recruiting offices. Before they can carry a gun or fly a fighter jet, new recruits must pass a drug test.”

The potential recruits are given one chance to pass their drug test when they show up to the Military Entrance Processing Station, but a hidden camera investigation carried out by San Antonio NBC affiliate WOAI caught recruiters volunteering to help recruits ace the drug test at home or in their office before ever heading to MEPS for that official test.

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242 Responses to “Army coaching recruits on how to beat drug tests.”

  1. ForTruth Says:

    Glad to see some proof of this. It’s been going on a long time.

    Duh.


  2. stopthecons Says:

    personally, I’d rather just get rid of the drug war completely. In a free society, we all have ownership over our property and our bodies. There is nothing so opposite to freedom as politicians telling YOU what you can eat, drink, or smoke.

    Every one of us should be free to do whatever we want with our person or our property, as long as by doing so we don’t prevent other people from doing the same….

    oh yeah, and on topic, these recruiters are still slimeballs.

    Some reading on the drug issue:

    “Free from the Nightmare of Prohibition”
    http://www.populistamerica.com/ free_from_the_nightmare_of_prohibition


  3. Happy Guy Says:

    You anti-Semitic anti-Americans must be happy. Hamas is launching rockets at Israeli schools again. Does it give you pigs that warm fuzzy again?


  4. mikes Says:

    Too bad W didn’t have this kind of coaching when he was in the air national guard. Maybe he wouldn’t have had to go AWOL.


  5. valiantthelover Says:

    Before they can carry a gun or fly a fighter jet, new recruits must pass a drug test

    by thinkprogress.org

    stupid thinkprogress.org, new recruits can never fly a jet fighter!!!!!!!!!

    retards only officers can fly jet fighters, Apache helicopters, and such other military flying machines.


  6. Tom3 Says:

    There have been other investigative reporters who have caught military recruiters coaching recruits how to beat a drug test.

    One enterprising young high school student from here in Colorado did this. He caught recruiters telling him how to beat the drug test by drinking stuff that flushes you out.

    One recruiter was even caught on video taking a recruit to a nearby head shop to buy the drug-flushing stuff.


  7. Crump's Brother Says:

    Happy Guy,

    Why in the world do you think this story would make us happy. I find appalling and depressing. This is what our military has become under the current wackiness? No one is happy about this you idiot!


  8. Happy Guy Says:

    I mean, not to change the subject or anything, but I have this brown spot on my nose. Anyone know of a cure?


  9. Tom3 Says:

    This morning, I heard a report about secret documents that the US is trying to overthrow the duly elected government of Palestine because Hamas won the election.

    The US is supplying Fatah with guns and ammunition and there is a civil war going on in Palestine as we speak.

    And Israel is bombing the Gaza strip, so its a two-way war going on.

    Hamas are bad guys, but so is Israel. And so are we, if we are sending guns to Palestine to overthrow their government.


  10. valiantthelover Says:

    hey i may not be able to spell or puncuate properly, but i knoe my militariness


  11. Zooey Says:

    Drugged cannon fodder is more compliant….


  12. Tom3 Says:

    Too bad W didn’t have this kind of coaching when he was in the air national guard. Maybe he wouldn’t have had to go AWOL. - Comment by mikes.

    GOOD ONE!!

    Chimpy started skipping physicals in 1971, when they started drug testing. Coincidence? I doubt it. Chimpy was taken off flight status for not going to his physical.


  13. Crump's Brother Says:

    valiantthehater,

    First of all, nice changing of the subject.

    Secondly, aren’t officers recruited as well. Before they are officers, they must be recruited and they must pass a drug test. Right?


  14. Tom3 Says:

    You can’t call TP stupid for that. Its a quote from the network.

    Try again, troll.


  15. Tom3 Says:

    I bet they don’t drug test troops in Iraq.

    And they have some killer hash.


  16. Spudge_Boy Says:

    I mean, not to change the subject or anything, but I have this brown spot on my nose. Anyone know of a cure?

    Comment by Happy Guy — May 17, 2007 @ 1:40 pm

    Belt sander should do the trick.


  17. valiantthelover Says:

    im stupid as a stone


  18. Saywho Says:

    Wow, so water boarding is OK but drugs are immoral? Do I have that correct?


  19. Zooey Says:

    retards only officers can fly jet fighters, Apache helicopters, and such other military flying machines.
    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    Shut it, you f*cking idiot.


  20. RUCerious Says:

    Come on, just give em each a “Whizzinator” and all will be fine.


  21. valiantthelover Says:

    valiantthehater,

    First of all, nice changing of the subject.

    Secondly, aren’t officers recruited as well. Before they are officers, they must be recruited and they must pass a drug test. Right?

    Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 17, 2007 @ 1:44 pm

    99% of the military officers applied to one of the military elite military acadamies and were accepted.

    officers are not recruits!!!!


  22. Saywho Says:

    Did you know that if a doctor puts you on an anti-depressant as a US citizen you become ineligible, for a federal firearms ID card. Apparently even good drugs are bad!


  23. IraqVet Says:

    Ummm…

    HOW does this square with all YOU upstanding Christian Reicht wing folks?

    Gay is sinful and should be abolished…Even though MANY of their priests and politicians commit the same acts!

    Abortion is murder…Even when it is uncertain that the fetus exists, and yet, the effort to save the fetus is equal to their firm belief in the death penalty! SAVE THE FETUS TO KILL HIM/HER LATER!!! And oh, while you’re at it, destroy all those non used embryo’s that could lead to a cure, because if you have a disease or illness, it’s God’s will!

    Murder is fine, as long as it benefits their view…RE: Iraq War, Abortion Clinic Terrorists (oops), I meant Warriors!

    Now, what about this? Will this be construted into a plausible argument about saving souls and redeeming these young men and women who would otherwise fail in society…

    Sounds Good! God (at least their God) will approve!


  24. Spudge_Boy Says:

    retards only officers can fly jet fighters, Apache helicopters, and such other military flying machines.

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    Yes, we know only the wealthy should be allowed to fly taxpayer bought equipment.

    Oh and you are the retard for not knowing what TP writes and what is quoted from another source.


  25. valiantthelover Says:

    You can’t call TP stupid for that. Its a quote from the network.

    Try again, troll.

    Comment by Tom3 — May 17, 2007 @ 1:45 pm

    of course we can call TP what it is, full of stupid bloggers, that blog about utter stupidity.

    they put up the quote as fact!

    well it is a FACT that jet fighter pilots are NOT recruits.

    get to know the military and its structure before you defend this piece of crap site.


  26. Tom3 Says:

    I mean, not to change the subject or anything, but I have this brown spot on my nose. Anyone know of a cure? - Comment by Happy Guy

    Sure, take your nose out of Chimpy’s butt.


  27. Happy Guy Says:

    I love it when someone uses my name. It means I WON. I got to you to the point where not only could you not ignore me, but you had to fake your name for a response.

    Hamas just launched rockets at a school. I did not see that thread started on this terrorist loving site so I made coment on the latest thread.

    Glad I got a rise out of some poor pu$$y a$$hole

    ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL

    I win

    ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL


  28. Tobey Tall Says:

    British Army LSD experiments on soldiers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDc3XjxiUvs

    watch this I see no wrong in letting troops take LSD

    HA HA HA HA HA So funny


  29. valiantthelover Says:

    retards only officers can fly jet fighters, Apache helicopters, and such other military flying machines.
    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    Shut it, you f*cking idiot.

    Comment by Zooey — May 17, 2007 @ 1:47 pm

    and the retard speaks…..Zooey, since you have nothing intelligent to say, you must act like the poor fool you are.

    child, i told you yesterday, make me. tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock

    we all know how much you “tolerant”, “open minded” left wingers “love” opposing view points.

    retard


  30. Ben Dover Says:

    #3 Actually if rockets had to be fired at anyone I would prefer that it be Hamas smoking the Israeli’s. You might want to try your diatribe somewhere else.


  31. Tobey Tall Says:

    we should all be like Holland - fantastic country


  32. Tom3 Says:

    Another troll error.

    The officer corps in the US is not 99% from service academies.

    There is a significant number of reserve officers who went to ROTC.

    Thank God they’re not all “ring knockers”.


  33. valiantthelover Says:

    You anti-Semitic anti-Americans must be happy. Hamas is launching rockets at Israeli schools again. Does it give you pigs that warm fuzzy again?

    Comment by Happy Guy — May 17, 2007 @ 1:36 pm

    Most Liberals get all fuzzy inside and a smile appears on their face when they hear that Hamas is trying to murder Israeli children.

    The problem is that Liberals are too cowardly to go themselves and fight the Israeli army, in this case throw bombs at an Israeli school.


  34. Tobey Tall Says:

    #3 Actually if rockets had to be fired at anyone I would prefer that it be Hamas smoking the Israeli’s. You might want to try your diatribe somewhere else.

    this is shit If this had happened it would be all over the papaers in fact its the other way round …..Isrealis have been Bombing Palestine with warplanes http://english.aljazeera.net/English


  35. Tom3 Says:

    Actually a lot of pilots ARE recruits.

    Helicopters are often flown by warrant officers recruited from the ranks.

    So it is quite possible for a recruit to become a pilot.


  36. valiantthelover Says:

    #3 Actually if rockets had to be fired at anyone I would prefer that it be Hamas smoking the Israeli’s. You might want to try your diatribe somewhere else.

    Comment by Ben Dover — May 17, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

    Thanks for proving my point. As I said, Liberals throw parties and smile when they here that Hamas is killing Israeli children.

    Liberals only care about Iraqi and Palestinian children, the rest can go to hell, according to their wacked out “logic”.


  37. Spudge_Boy Says:

    99% of the military officers applied to one of the military elite military acadamies and were accepted.

    officers are not recruits!!!!

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 1:48 pm

    In this one valiant is correct. By “offiers” he is referring to commissioned officers. Commissioned officers are the guys who have rich parents that send them to West Point. Most of them are hated by the average “enlisted soldier” and “non-commsioned officers” (aka Sgt). Proof of this is in the invention of the term “frag”

    If you ever call an NCO “sir” they will come back with “Don’t call me sir maggot, I work for a living!”


  38. Happy Guy Says:

    #30, I know. It is just hard to get anyone on this site to outwardly admit they are anti-Semitic anti-American, troop hating, terrorist loving, George Soro’s dick sucking little pu$$ies.

    But thank you for standing up when called upon.

    ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL


  39. Ben Dover Says:

    # 33. And when are you leaving for Tel Aviv, valiant?


  40. Tom3 Says:

    You anti-Semitic anti-Americans must be happy. Hamas is launching rockets at Israeli schools again. Does it give you pigs that warm fuzzy again? Comment by Happy Guy

    Most Liberals get all fuzzy inside and a smile appears on their face when they hear that Hamas is trying to murder Israeli children. The problem is that Liberals are too cowardly to go themselves and fight the Israeli army, in this case throw bombs at an Israeli school. Comment by valiantthelover

    Don’t you just LOVE how the trolls put words in your mouth?

    What a bunch of bullshit.


  41. valiantthelover Says:

    Another troll error.

    The officer corps in the US is not 99% from service academies.

    There is a significant number of reserve officers who went to ROTC.

    Thank God they’re not all “ring knockers”.

    Comment by Tom3 — May 17, 2007 @ 1:52 pm

    wrong, the majority of the military officers come from the military academies.

    and my point still stands, fuck head…….officers are NOT recruits.

    go ask anyone in the military.


  42. Tobey Tall Says:

    valiantthelover - send a link - its bullshit


  43. Ben Dover Says:

    # 38. Of all of those epithets i’m only anti-semitic. The rest dont fit me or most others. Try redstate.com where you’re loved. OK?


  44. Tobey Tall Says:

    Im sitting here right now smoking a big joint of Manali Cream does that Mean I cannot get national service - oh well then


  45. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Glad I got a rise out of some poor pu$$y a$$hole

    You do know that the term “got a rise” refers to a hard on right? So, you are happy about giving a guy a hard on? Way to go.


  46. Art Says:

    Letting in drug addicts?

    What’s next? Homosexuals?

    “When you see someone else looking at a Playboy magazine… act interested.”


  47. valiantthelover Says:

    99% of the military officers applied to one of the military elite military acadamies and were accepted.

    officers are not recruits!!!!

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 1:48 pm

    In this one valiant is correct. By “offiers” he is referring to commissioned officers. Commissioned officers are the guys who have rich parents that send them to West Point. Most of them are hated by the average “enlisted soldier” and “non-commsioned officers” (aka Sgt). Proof of this is in the invention of the term “frag”

    If you ever call an NCO “sir” they will come back with “Don’t call me sir maggot, I work for a living!”

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — May 17, 2007 @ 1:55 pm

    officers have rich parents? some, but not all my friend. I can guarantee you that.

    many officers do come from a long list of family members who were military and more likely officers like them. But there are quite a few officers that were never rich, don’t have this tradition. And some officeres actually rose through the ranks, rare, but it happens.

    still, officers are NOT recruits.

    that is a huge, huge mistake by TP.

    furthemore, 99% of the officers that fly jeft fighters, went through Colorado Springs. No jet fighter pilot is a recruit.


  48. ForTruth Says:

    Love, hate, whatever. It all flows together at some point.


  49. Spudge_Boy Says:

    #30, I know. It is just hard to get anyone on this site to outwardly admit they are anti-Semitic anti-American, troop hating, terrorist loving, George Soro’s dick sucking little pu$$ies.

    But thank you for standing up when called upon.

    ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL

    Comment by Happy Guy — May 17, 2007 @ 1:55 pm

    And it is even harder to get right wing nut jobs to admit that they are brown shirt wearing neo Nazi scum bag co*k sucking closeted gay wussies that won’t join the military, for fear that they might piss their pants in public.


  50. valiantthelover Says:

    Don’t you just LOVE how the trolls put words in your mouth?

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    Comment by Tom3 — May 17, 2007 @ 1:55 pm

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! a liberal crying and whinning about words being put in their mouth?! this has to be the funniest thing I have read on here in a long time!

    hahahahahahahahahaha!!! look in the mirror, read TP, read other left wing sites, they do this all the time.

    stop crying kid….


  51. hacker bob Says:

    This is what our military has become under the current wackiness? No one is happy about this you idiot!
    Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 17, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    This is nothing new. It happened before Iraq and before Bush too. It is one of the oldest recruiter tricks out there.

    I bet they don’t drug test troops in Iraq.
    And they have some killer hash.
    Comment by Tom3 — May 17, 2007 @ 1:45 pm

    I’ll take your bet! I took 3 drug tests over there. What did I win?


  52. CompTROLLER V-1 Says:

    Comment by Spudge_Boy

    The service academies are free of charge, given honorable service. Your parents don’t have to be rich in order for you to be accepted. And you can’t buy your way through the admissions office, either.


  53. Tobey Tall Says:

    no Hamas rockets hit a school thats bullshit - prove it you cant it never happened

    Actually Isreali warplanes bombed Palestine today that fact

    At least four Palestinians have been killed in a series of air strikes across the Gaza Strip.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/English

    valiantthelover - back up your propaganda with a link - its your usual bullshit


  54. Spudge_Boy Says:

    officers have rich parents? some, but not all my friend. I can guarantee you that.

    still, officers are NOT recruits.

    that is a huge, huge mistake by TP.

    Just because there is an exception to the rule doesn’t ivaildate the rule. I know, I served and you haven’t

    I never said they were dumb sh!t.

    And once again, it is a quote from another source. So, your argument is idiotic.


  55. Juan C Says:

    hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
    Comment by valiantthelover

    Heh.

    See how easy is to type two letters consecutively but offering proof of whatever stupidity you claim is NOT?


  56. valiantthelover Says:

    Actually a lot of pilots ARE recruits.

    Helicopters are often flown by warrant officers recruited from the ranks.

    So it is quite possible for a recruit to become a pilot.

    Comment by Tom3 — May 17, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    NO! Jet fighter pilots are NOT recruits as TP claims above.

    retard, a helicopter is NOT a jet fighter, you might want to get back our college money kid.

    An F-22 Raptor is no where near being a Huey helicopter.

    get a clue and an education.


  57. Tobey Tall Says:

    valiantthelover or jake - both attention seekers

    If we ignored these idiots they would not get the attention they seek and go away


  58. Happy Guy Says:

    Boy, we got to you today! Hey Spudge Boy, how does George’s dick taste?

    ROTFL
    ROTFL
    ROTFL
    ROTFL
    ROTFL


  59. Juan C Says:

    valiantthelover - back up your propaganda with a link - its your usual bullshit
    Comment by Tobey Tall

    Tobey, you are trying to INFORM a troll. Wasted time.


  60. Happy Guy Says:

    You should also be happy you got your immagration bill today. You criminal buddies have a pathway for voting DemoRat now.

    Of course if you read it, it is not that great for them after all. Kind of a don’t ask don’t tell win. You people are losers

    ROTFL,ROTFL,ROTFL,ROTFL,ROTFL,ROTFL


  61. valiantthelover Says:

    Comment by Spudge_Boy

    The service academies are free of charge, given honorable service. Your parents don’t have to be rich in order for you to be accepted. And you can’t buy your way through the admissions office, either.

    Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 17, 2007 @ 2:02 pm

    Exactly!!! CompTroller V-1…….YOu have to get a recommendation from your Congressman and/or Senator in order to be even considered for the academy.

    Rich or poor, anyone can go to the military academies. Rich kids have gone and poor kids have gone. What the militiary looks for is grades, SAT, ACT scores. Just like any other college. the nice thing about the academies is that unliek all other colleges, you don’t pay tuition.


  62. Zooey Says:

    child, i told you yesterday, make me. tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock

    You’re calling ME a child? Good one.

    retard
    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

    Wow. That’s “tolerant.”

    F*cking idiot.


  63. Tobey Tall Says:

    At least 32 people were injured, including a number of children, when an F-16 fighter jet “decimated” the Executive Force building in central Gaza City, Al Jazeera’s Nour Odeh said.

    valiantthelover get your facts right it was the other way round NOW lets hear an apology - you wanker


  64. Spudge_Boy Says:

    The service academies are free of charge, given honorable service. Your parents don’t have to be rich in order for you to be accepted. And you can’t buy your way through the admissions office, either.

    Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 17, 2007 @ 2:02 pm

    I speak from personal experience, unlike our trolls.


  65. Tobey Tall Says:

    TODAY

    At least 32 people were injured, including a number of children, when an F-16 fighter jet “decimated” the Executive Force building in central Gaza City, Al Jazeera’s Nour Odeh said.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/ NR/ exeres/ 4B9DB2E7-53F8-48C8-BD90-2DA8369D0E07.htm


  66. valiantthelover Says:

    valiantthelover or jake - both attention seekers

    If we ignored these idiots they would not get the attention they seek and go away

    Comment by Tobey Tall — May 17, 2007 @ 2:04 pm

    I am sorry that the truth hurst, stupid British pig.

    kid, sorry, your godly organization Hamas is full of monsters, terrorists. Hamas today bombed an Israeli school. Bury your head in the sand, stupid British pig. I have always known that pigs like you love it when Hamas kills Israeli children.

    you hypocrite. You Libtards cry about Iraqi childen supposedly being purposedly killed by American troops, yet you applaud Hamas when they do do it in purpose.

    You are an embarrasment to the Britons, you disgusting pig.


  67. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Boy, we got to you today! Hey Spudge Boy, how does George’s dick taste?

    I wouldn’t know, but I will bet George Bush could give you a description, sicne he sucks Jeff Gannon’s d!ck on a regular basis.


  68. valiantthelover Says:

    TODAY

    At least 32 people were injured, including a number of children, when an F-16 fighter jet “decimated” the Executive Force building in central Gaza City, Al Jazeera’s Nour Odeh said.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/ NR/ exeres/ 4B9DB2E7-53F8-48C8-BD90-2DA8369D0E07.htm

    Comment by Tobey Tall — May 17, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

    Yeah, let’s believe the propaganda that the terrorist organization Al-Jeezera puts out.

    stupid, stupid, stupid Liberals. You are embarrasing yourself, stupid Briton.


  69. Zooey Says:

    Ok, we’re allowing this thread to be all about valiantthegoatlover, let’s stop doing that!


  70. Tobey Tall Says:

    British Army LSD experiments on soldiers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDc3XjxiUvs

    This is funny


  71. Happy Guy Says:

    ROTFL…
    I gotta run now ’cause my mom wants me to clean my room.
    But I’ll be back after I have a Hot Pocket!!!!!!!


  72. valiantthelover Says:

    The service academies are free of charge, given honorable service. Your parents don’t have to be rich in order for you to be accepted. And you can’t buy your way through the admissions office, either.

    Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 17, 2007 @ 2:02 pm

    I speak from personal experience, unlike our trolls.

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — May 17, 2007 @ 2:07 pm

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! what happened Spudge_boy, thrown out of the academies and now you are mad. You were good enough to fly jeft fighter planes and now you are out for revenge?

    retard, play with GI Joes is NOT being in the military. Tell you mommy to stop ptelliing you that you are a soldier when you defeat Cobra Commander, ok?

    GI Joe, GO!!! hahahahahaha!!!!!


  73. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Do the trolls realize that using “LOL,” “ROFL” and other text messaging slang in every single post makes them look like 13 year olds?

    But then again, my 13 year old doesn’t even use that stupid sh!t.


  74. valiantthelover Says:

    Ok, we’re allowing this thread to be all about valiantthegoatlover, let’s stop doing that!

    Comment by Zooey — May 17, 2007 @ 2:10 pm

    Of course not because Zooey the retard wants it to be all about her.

    poor, stupid, intolerant fool.


  75. Happy Guy Says:

    #61 Hey Toby, did you just quote Al Jazeera’s

    You Quote the main Terrorist propoganda arm of media and expect what?

    ROTFL


  76. valiantthelover Says:

    Well, I didn’t actually read tyhe article because i cant read, but i heard Rush talking about it on the radio.


  77. OxyCon Says:

    Could you imagine you son serving in a unit full of crackheads?


  78. Zooey Says:

    Of course not because Zooey the retard wants it to be all about her.
    poor, stupid, intolerant fool.
    Comment by valiantthelover

    You have a problem with consistency, moron.


  79. valiantthelover Says:

    hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
    Comment by valiantthelover

    Heh.

    See how easy is to type two letters consecutively but offering proof of whatever stupidity you claim is NOT?

    Comment by Juan C — May 17, 2007 @ 2:04 pm

    oh stop whinning and crying about offering proof. You guys offer none. I have told you time an dtime again, when ALL of you LIbtards offer proof of your wacked out mis-information, I will provide links to my information.

    until then go cry to someone that cares.

    man, I have told you time and time again, you are an embarrasment to our race Juanito.


  80. valiantthelover Says:

    why does it burn when I go pee pee?


  81. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Oh yeah and I was in the Field Artillery.

    Flyboys don’t do any work. I wanted to actually work when I served my country.


  82. Happy Guy Says:

    I win again. Every time one of you posts youing my alias I get so happy I want to hang out here forever.

    ROTFL

    At least you tried to change the topic away from admitting you support terrorists.

    ROTFL - Losers - ROTFL


  83. valiantthelover Says:

    my mom needs to use the computer. I[ll be back later retard


  84. hacker bob Says:

    Comment by valiantthelover

    Shut up, you speak from your ass


  85. Crump's Brother Says:

    valiantthe’lover’,

    How can you call people intolerant when you call them things like “poor, stupid, fool, stupid, stupid, stupid Liberals, stupid Briton, disgusting pig, retard, Liberals throw parties and smile when they here that Hamas is killing Israeli children.”

    I don’t see much tolerance in any of these statements. Do you?


  86. Craig Mack Says:

    Hey valiant, come out of the basement, we all know you are running short on Mountain Dew and cheetos. It’s adult time now…


  87. Happy Guy Says:

    What did you do in the military Spooge Tard? Did you server like Kerry? You know, shoot yourself until you could get out? ROTFL.

    No, you would not want to get out. You joined for the MEN! Did it make you hot being with a bunch or real men? I’m sure you were everyone’s bitch.

    ROTFL


  88. Craig Mack Says:

    Easy Spudge….I’m AF, and I work plenty! (on occasion)


  89. gudin Says:

    1. You don’t have to be an officer to fly Army helicopters.

    2. It is completely untrue that 99% of officers were from the academies, and even those that were did not need to be “elites” as they are free.

    3. Recruitment happens before you are allowed to fly things, officer or not. Therefore the original statement was fine.

    4. I wasted way too much time responding to a borderline illiterate and certainly irrational moron.

    me


  90. Happy Guy Says:

    ROTFL!!!!!!!
    I gotta run…Jerry Springer is on!!!!!!!!


  91. valiantthelover Says:

    my mom needs to use the computer. I[ll be back later retard

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 2:17 pm

    Obviously I got under someone skins….hahahahahaha!!!

    Kids, I told you, TP is full of lies, they can’t even be honest about the fact that jet fighter pilots are NOT recruits.

    how sad, how truly, truly sad.

    then we have the stupid Briton quoting Al-jeezera as a real news source.

    Man, you poor, stupid, Liberals, you are embarrassing yourselves kids, you truly are.


  92. Andy Trotter Says:

    everyone is missing the truth - The recruiter in this video is NOT coaching the recruit how to beat the drug test. He is merely pre-screening applicants. As in - I won’t send you to take the MEPS drug test until you prove to me that you are not using drugs. The recruiter is merely doing his job. This whole story is a twisted mess of lies. Guess what - civilians do drugs, and you can’t do drugs in the military, therefore the recruiter is making sure his recruits are clean. Good for him.


  93. tballou Says:

    I dont see the problem with this. DOD requires they be drug free when they enter, so let them take the test as many times as it takes to show they are drug free. If they take drugs later, they get kicked out!


  94. Happy Guy Says:

    I work at Taco Bell. FREE Chalupas!


  95. valiantthelover Says:

    I win again. Every time one of you posts youing my alias I get so happy I want to hang out here forever.

    ROTFL

    At least you tried to change the topic away from admitting you support terrorists.

    ROTFL - Losers - ROTFL

    Comment by Happy Guy — May 17, 2007 @ 2:17 pm

    yeah, these poor bastards are doing the same thing to me. how sad for them, how truly sad for them.

    they can’t win on the facts so they try to use other dirty tactics to win.

    I am truly embarrassed for them.

    I kind of pity them.


  96. Juan C Says:

    You Quote the main Terrorist propoganda arm of media and expect what?
    Comment by Happy Guy

    From here:
    Founded in 1996, and based in Qatar, the Al Jazeera news network is the fastest growing network among Arab communities and Arabic speaking people around the world.

    Isnt a US military base in Qatar? mmmm…do they complain about the terrorists in Qatar?

    Happy idiot.


  97. Happy Guy Says:

    I like wearing my mom’s underwear.


  98. valiantthelover Says:

    Easy Spudge….I’m AF, and I work plenty! (on occasion)

    Comment by Craig Mack — May 17, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

    Mack, can Jet fighter pilots be recruits? please educate this crowd.


  99. valiantthelover Says:

    i dropped out of school in the third grade and joined the circus. I was known as “Idiot Boy”.


  100. IraqVet Says:

    Spudge…

    Homosexual (oops) Happy Guy is clearly delusional, so let’s move on to more credible people…

    I mean, why argue with somone with an IQ of 80 or less? I mean, he admires BUSH, so the bar has been set very low, and to argue against STUPIDITY validates his/her/its existence…

    So let’s just let Happy Guy go back to his admiration of HAGGART, FOLEY, DELAY, and others, and we will be fine…

    ================================================

    But on a more serious note, WHY do they bring up ISRAEL & HAMAS? I’m sorry, but I really DO NOT care about their problems, because HAMAS has not done anything to the U.S.!!! OSAMA anyone??? Hello???

    If they bombed a school, then retaliation against THAT terrorist organization is warranted! Does that mean they are going to assist in Iraq?

    What dumb*sses!!!


  101. Spudge_Boy Says:

    No, you would not want to get out. You joined for the MEN! Did it make you hot being with a bunch or real men? I’m sure you were everyone’s bitch.

    WTF?

    Are you implying that all of the people that serve in the military are gay?

    Wow, now we all KNOW you haven’t served your country pu$$y.


  102. Happy Guy Says:

    If I bend over really far, I can lick my own wee wee!!!!!!
    ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!


  103. valiantthelover Says:

    i lost my virginity to a goat.


  104. JT8D-15A Says:

    Liberals only care about Iraqi and Palestinian children, the rest can go to hell, according to their wacked out “logic”.

    Comment by valiantthelover

    Soros, who funds TP, is Jewish VTL and Happy Guy. Palestine is where Christianity got it’s start VTL. Did you stop to think of that? You talk about being anti-semitic when the fact is Arabs (sunni shia) are semites. If anything you are anti-semitic.


  105. Happy Guy Says:

    I take showers with my gym teacher.


  106. Spudge_Boy Says:

    But on a more serious note, WHY do they bring up ISRAEL & HAMAS? I’m sorry, but I really DO NOT care about their problems, because HAMAS has not done anything to the U.S.!!! OSAMA anyone??? Hello???

    They bring up Hamas, because just like George Bush and the rest of the cabal, their loyalty does not lie with the US.


  107. Juan C Says:

    Mack, can Jet fighter pilots be recruits? please educate this crowd.
    Comment by valiantthelover

    Wasnt the other way around? Can recruits be Jet fighter pilots?

    Oh, education…irony of life.


  108. erock Says:

    until then go cry to someone that cares.

    man, I have told you time and time again, you are an embarrasment to our race Juanito.

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 2:16 pm

    TP doesn’t imply that all recruits will be flying jets or helicopters, only that if they were to so they would have to pass a drug test. You’re waging a pointless battle here arguing a non-issue. The larger issue is that recruiters are actively circumventing their own policies to put our young men and women in harm’s way. Is this for finiancial gain? Perhaps. Is it wrong? Yes.


  109. valiantthelover Says:

    You Quote the main Terrorist propoganda arm of media and expect what?
    Comment by Happy Guy

    From here:
    Founded in 1996, and based in Qatar, the Al Jazeera news network is the fastest growing network among Arab communities and Arabic speaking people around the world.

    Isnt a US military base in Qatar? mmmm…do they complain about the terrorists in Qatar?

    Happy idiot.

    Comment by Juan C — May 17, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

    actually, YES!! idiota! or do you forget when Qatar was going to take over the our ports the uproar from Congress, as well as from LIberal and conservative pundits about Qatar taking over security of our ports? and why? because there is terrorist living in Qatar!!!

    you don’t get out much do you?

    incredible that the idiots that attack Foxnews turn around and quote a terrorist organization like Al-Jeezera.

    what a bunch of idiots, honestly. You guys need to be embarrased for yourselves.


  110. Craig Mack Says:

    Valian, don’t expect me to come to your aid, you mental midget. TYPICALY, pilots do go to the academy. HOWEVER, I have several people I know that were prior enlisted that are now fighter jockeys. And BTW valiant, a large percentage of the heavy pilots (C5’s, 17s, ect)are NOT academy grads, rather they are simply commisioned officers that CAME THROUGH THE MEPS STATION JUST LIKE SPUDGE AND I DID.
    If you were any more stupid you would have to be watered….


  111. Happy Guy Says:

    I have a hidden camera in my bathroom so I can secretly watch my sister go peepee.


  112. Juan C Says:

    While I dislike bozos like Happy Guy and VTL, I disapproe namejacking…although some of those posts are funny. :)


  113. valiantthelover Says:

    I put peanut butter on my weewee and let my doggy lick it off.


  114. erock Says:

    For the record, namejacking in all its forms is pathetic.


  115. Happy Guy Says:

    Why is it Spudge Boy and not Spuge Man? Oh, that’s right, it is Spuge Bitch!

    ROTFL

    I am saying [if] you joined you did it to shower with men. You like Bill [the rapist] Clintons policy of keeping your mouth either shut or full of dick.

    ROTFL

    You people are haters. You hate Jews, Christians, American, Troops . . . All you talk about is how much you hate. So go to the ocuntry you like.

    And please take Ted Kennedy with you.

    ROTFL


  116. Juan C Says:

    incredible that the idiots that attack Foxnews turn around and quote a terrorist organization like Al-Jeezera.

    Im going to ask you to prove that Al-Jazeera is a terrorist organization. Im gonna wait. Tic, tac, tic, tac, tic, tac…
    who wants to bet he goes Poof!?

    you don’t get out much do you?
    Comment by valiantthelover

    I have a tan.


  117. Happy Guy Says:

    I bought 100 acres of property on the moon, so you won’t have me to kick around much longer!!!!!!!


  118. JT8D-15A Says:

    Really, TP draws some of the most historically and politically inept trolls ever. (Happy Guy, VTH, V V, Patrick, Michael)

    THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION
    “Christianity started out in Palestine as a fellowship; it moved to Greece and became a philosophy; it moved to Italy and became an institution; …
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/christ.htm

    Guess what - civilians do drugs, and you can’t do drugs in the military, therefore the recruiter is making sure his recruits are clean. Good for him. Comment by Andy Trotter

    Thats patently false. The reason for flush kits is to pass the drug test not to stop doing drugs.


  119. Happy Guy Says:

    (sing this one with me)

    I got me, under your skin -

    ROTFL


  120. valiantthelover Says:

    While I dislike bozos like Happy Guy and VTL, I disapproe namejacking…although some of those posts are funny. :)

    Comment by Juan C — May 17, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

    I put peanut butter on my weewee and let my doggy lick it off.

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 2:30 pm

    For the record, namejacking in all its forms is pathetic.

    Comment by erock — May 17, 2007 @ 2:30 pm

    When Liberals can’t win an argument….well, they hijack names. Sad, sad.

    Thansk for proving that Liberals are not smart enough to win a debate.

    Sorry to teach you that a jet fighter pilot CAN NEVER BE a recruit.

    TP, you are embarrassing yourselves and the left wing.


  121. thehim Says:

    actually, YES!! idiota! or do you forget when Qatar was going to take over the our ports the uproar from Congress, as well as from LIberal and conservative pundits about Qatar taking over security of our ports? and why? because there is terrorist living in Qatar!!!

    Um, that was Dubai, Einstein. Not Qatar…


  122. erock Says:

    Sorry to teach you that a jet fighter pilot CAN NEVER BE a recruit.

    TP, you are embarrassing yourselves and the left wing.

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 2:33 pm

    Have someone read the article to you. TP makes no such claim. It only says that if they were to fly a jet, they would have to have a drug test first.


  123. valiantthelover Says:

    Valian, don’t expect me to come to your aid, you mental midget. TYPICALY, pilots do go to the academy. HOWEVER, I have several people I know that were prior enlisted that are now fighter jockeys. And BTW valiant, a large percentage of the heavy pilots (C5’s, 17s, ect)are NOT academy grads, rather they are simply commisioned officers that CAME THROUGH THE MEPS STATION JUST LIKE SPUDGE AND I DID.
    If you were any more stupid you would have to be watered….

    Comment by Craig Mack — May 17, 2007 @ 2:28 pm

    retard, jet fighter pilots are NOT the C-17, C5s, etc. Please point out, Libtard, at what point have I ever claimed that the heavy pilots are officers? c’mon retard, tick, tock, tick, tock…………

    Jet fighter pilots, 99.9% of them are NOT and never were recruits! Most if not all had to go through Colorado Springs, where the Air Force Academy is.

    I smell a lie, you aren’t in the AF, you would know this.

    A recruit can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever fly a jet fighter pilot.

    try again, retard.

    talking about mental midgets…..looked in the mirror lately. Man you are stupid and yes the mental midget. Stop projecting your stupidity unto others.


  124. erock Says:

    UAE, Qatar, Yemen, etc. aren’t they all really the same to the right-wing.


  125. valiantthelover Says:

    incredible that the idiots that attack Foxnews turn around and quote a terrorist organization like Al-Jeezera.

    Im going to ask you to prove that Al-Jazeera is a terrorist organization. Im gonna wait. Tic, tac, tic, tac, tic, tac…
    who wants to bet he goes Poof!?

    you don’t get out much do you?
    Comment by valiantthelover
    I have a tan.

    Comment by Juan C — May 17, 2007 @ 2:32 pm

    Anyone with an IQ over 100 knows that Al-Jeezera is a terrorist organization.

    I am sorry for you kid.

    the prove is in their reporting, who reports for them and what they report.

    please Juan for your own sake, please get an education. You will stop sounding so incredibly stupid.


  126. Wayne Says:

    Notice how the trolls change to an unrelated subject, to disrupt discussion on the actual issue?

    Fact is that these recruiters are violating policy. period.

    Sorry for the interuption with something actually on topic.
    You will now be returned back to the troll comedy hour, here at TP


  127. JT8D-15A Says:

    You people are haters. You hate Jews, Christians, American, Troops . . . All you talk about is how much you hate. So go to the ocuntry you like. -Happy Gay

    I don’t confuse religious ideology with political ideology. You seem to be stuck in pundit parrot land. The fact is just as many Democrats are religious as those who vote Republican. You can drop the act.

    Theres only one type of person in this world I don’t much cotton up to, and thats people who make statements without thinking. In other words people like you Happy Guy. Nothing you have said here makes sense or is true, your just trying to stick your guesswork, or opinions, onto others as if it’s truth. It’s not.


  128. erock Says:

    VTL,

    By saying this:

    Jet fighter pilots, 99.9% of them are NOT and never were recruits! Most if not all had to go through Colorado Springs, where the Air Force Academy is.

    you acknowledge that recruited fighter pilots exist…in fact, according to you, out of 1000 fighter pilots, 1 is a recruit. Care to revise?


  129. valiantthelover Says:

    Sorry to teach you that a jet fighter pilot CAN NEVER BE a recruit.

    TP, you are embarrassing yourselves and the left wing.

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 2:33 pm

    Have someone read the article to you. TP makes no such claim. It only says that if they were to fly a jet, they would have to have a drug test first.

    Comment by erock — May 17, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

    Please erock, this is a misleading argument and arrticle!

    jet fighter pilots don’t get tested for drugs in MEPS! never have, and never will!!!

    jet fighter pilots are NOT recruited by recruiting officers!

    as the arcticle implies.

    TP is lying as usual.


  130. Juan C Says:

    A recruit can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever fly a jet fighter pilot.
    Comment by valiantthelover

    Maybe, with another ever, it will sound more convincing.


  131. DRxJ Says:

    Valianthehater(bater) and Happy Dude.

    Congrats dude(ettes)! You’ve successfully derailed the thread, without adding any informative posts, or debates.
    Ya’ll must be so proud.
    How’s it feel to be both in an afterglow of post self coitus?
    and no, don’t pass the kleenex!


  132. Zooey Says:

    Have someone read the article to you. TP makes no such claim. It only says that if they were to fly a jet, they would have to have a drug test first.
    Comment by erock

    It makes no difference to that one. He’s just here to spew bile.


  133. Juan C Says:

    please Juan for your own sake, please get an education. You will stop sounding so incredibly stupid.
    Comment by valiantthelover

    Another claim goes without proof. Im shocked… ;)


  134. JT8D-15A Says:

    A recruit can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever fly a jet fighter pilot.
    try again, retard. -VTL

    You should check your posts before posting them. Calling people retarded when you write as above, is well, you know.


  135. Bozzytiger Says:

    Good for them, its clear the war on drugs is just another failed policy from conservatives playing loose with the word WAR. CLINTON USED WEED, W IS A EX COKE HEAD, OBAMA ECT ECT. THEN CONSIDER WE PROBABLY ONLY HEAR ONE TENTH OF THIS TYPE OF STUFF AT BEST.

    JUST BE SURE WE AS A SOCIETY KEEP TURNING A BLIND EYE TO THE MOST DEADLY, USELESS, EXPENSIVE, ADDICTIVE DRUG EVER CONCIEVED THATS FOR SALE IN EVERY GROCERY STORE AND CONVENIENCE STORE IN THIS NATION, TOBACCO!


  136. Zooey Says:

    Maybe, with another ever, it will sound more convincing.
    Comment by Juan C

    Yeah, he almost had me there…..


  137. Zooey Says:

    How’s it feel to be both in an afterglow of post self coitus?
    and no, don’t pass the kleenex!
    Comment by DRxJ

    Blech.

    Heh.


  138. Crump's Brother Says:

    valiantthe’lover’,

    How can you call people intolerant when you call them things like “poor, stupid, fool, stupid, stupid, stupid Liberals, stupid Briton, disgusting pig, retard, Liberals throw parties and smile when they here that Hamas is killing Israeli children.”

    I don’t see much tolerance in any of these statements. Do you?


  139. Oversight is a Bitch. Says:

    Bush, as “The Commander Guy” would certainly support the cheating these folks are encouraged to do to pass the drug test. Bush himself is known to have done cocaine. He likes to characterize that as “youthful indiscretion.” Of course, the rest of us grew up long before we were 40. Bush is still waiting to outgrow his youth.


  140. Wayne Says:

    I don’t see much tolerance in any of these statements. Do you?

    Comment by Crump’s Brother

    it all shows what we already know, valientthehater is a hypocrite.


  141. DRxJ Says:

    A recruit can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever fly a jet fighter pilot
    try again, retard.
    Comment by valianttheloverofchildren — May 17, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

    Sometimes, it helps to know the education level of one who wishes to debate (pffft!)
    I think the highlighted subject above answers that!


  142. valiantthelover Says:

    Maybe, with another ever, it will sound more convincing.
    Comment by Juan C

    Yeah, he almost had me there…..

    Comment by Zooey — May 17, 2007 @ 2:43 pm

    How’s it feel to be both in an afterglow of post self coitus?
    and no, don’t pass the kleenex!
    Comment by DRxJ

    Blech.

    Heh.

    Comment by Zooey — May 17, 2007 @ 2:44 pm

    I am not here to convince anyone. I am here to point out to the utter stupidity of individuals like Zooey, Juan C, and the rest of the Libtards.

    trying to educate Libtards is a waste of time. It is easier to teach a monkey sign language than to teach Libetards how to stop being tools, sheeps, robots, drooling zombies of the left.


  143. erock Says:

    TP is lying as usual.

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 2:40 pm

    Again (and probably again and again ….) TP makes no such claim. Even if they were (which they’re not) you yourself have claimed that 99.9% of fighter pilots are not recruits. Thus proving the imaginary point that you are arguing against. Further, whether fighter pilots are on drugs or not is not the issue, (in reality many fighter pilots take amphetamines to allow them to stay awake during long missions) the issue is that recruiters are acting in contradiction to an army policies.


  144. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Why is it Spudge Boy and not Spuge Man? Oh, that’s right, it is Spuge Bitch!

    Because I have been using that nickname since before you were born and I was still a boy. But, I am not so little anymore. But, I like when punks like you are under the impression that I am in some way small or weak. It is called camouflage. You would know something about that if you had served in the military.


  145. valiantthelover Says:

    valiantthe’lover’,

    How can you call people intolerant when you call them things like “poor, stupid, fool, stupid, stupid, stupid Liberals, stupid Briton, disgusting pig, retard, Liberals throw parties and smile when they here that Hamas is killing Israeli children.”

    I don’t see much tolerance in any of these statements. Do you?

    Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 17, 2007 @ 2:47 pm

    i treat Libetards as they treat those they disagree with. Unlike the left wingers of america, I have never claimed to be tolerant, open minded, etc, etc.

    It is the left who constantly goes on television, radio, etc and claims to be tolerant, open minded people, when it is obvious that they are not.

    libertards are only tolerant and open minded of individuals that think like them and agree with them. they hate anyone that doesn’t carry their Liberal agenda.

    these re facts of lives.

    Liberals are intolerant and very closed minded. and most of them are full of bigotry against Christianity.


  146. JT8D-15A Says:

    As far as drug tests go this is nothing new. People do it all the time to gain employment.

    Hey VTL, how does calling people names [as I did a long time ago in the third grade] make you a lover? Isn’t that, free love, a liberal quality?


  147. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Craig Mack,

    I jest with my Flyboy brethren. I have a bunch of AF friends and they say they work all the time (on occasion). : )


  148. Spudge_Boy Says:

    A recruit can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever fly a jet fighter pilot.

    Did you have a gay Freudian slip there VTH?


  149. JT8D-15A Says:

    Liberals are intolerant and very closed minded. and most of them are full of bigotry against Christianity.

    Comment by valiantthelover

    I am a Christian and have no problems with the people here. Take that chip off your shoulder and stop making such pedantic statements such as ‘liberals are all intolerant’ It’s patently false. I know conservatives that are anti-Jewish. I don’t sit here and claim you are because of that.


  150. erock Says:

    TP is lying as usual.

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 2:40 pm

    Just for fun, and because I am a little bored, let’s examine TP’s statement using symbolic logic.

    Here, P represents passing a drug test. J will represent a recruit becoming a fighter pilot.

    TP’s statement is:

    Before they can carry a gun or fly a fighter jet, new recruits must pass a drug test.

    This is logically equivalent to (restricted to matters of P and J):

    J -> P

    Now, if as you claim, recruits never become fighter pilots, then we always have:

    -J

    Using basic logic, we know that this does not directly imply -P. Rather, applying modus tollens gives us

    -P -> -J

    Or, not passing a drug test prohibits a recruit from becoming a fighter pilot.

    Never does TP’s statement lend itself to P -> J, no matter how you much you would like it to.


  151. Crump's Brother Says:

    valintthe’lover’

    “i treat Libetards as they treat those they disagree with.” No you don’t

    “Unlike the left wingers of america, I have never claimed to be tolerant, open minded, etc, etc.” So you admit to being a close minded?

    “It is the left who constantly goes on television, radio, etc and claims to be tolerant, open minded people” The right claims to be otherwise?

    “libertards are only tolerant and open minded of individuals that think like them and agree with them. they hate anyone that doesn’t carry their Liberal agenda.” False

    “these re facts of lives.” No they aren’t.

    “Liberals are intolerant and very closed minded. and most of them are full of bigotry against Christianity.” No they aren’t.


  152. JT8D-15A Says:

    Liberals are intolerant and very closed minded. and most of them are full of bigotry against Christianity.

    Comment by valiantthelover

    The only Christians I know that act as you do VTH, is the fundamentalists who view themselves as victims, who are hated by everyone (they think) because they are Christians. Try losing that beam in your eye VTL it’s mucking up your vision.


  153. Craig Mack Says:

    Valiant, where are you getting your facts? Seriously?
    As far as you not “believing” me about being in the AF….I don’t think i’ll be able to go on one minute more thinking I don’t have your trust…..(this from the person who CLAIMS to be an attorney, yet can’t spell everyday words). As I recall, I have busted you down with facts before, and you just resorted to the typical “you’re retarded” response. Is that all you’ve got??

    And Spudge, no offense take, I’m just screwing with ya.


  154. Spudge_Boy Says:

    “Liberals are intolerant and very closed minded. and most of them are full of bigotry against Christianity.”

    Actually, I would say I am bigoted against all organized religion, but that doesn’t fit VTH’s little generalizing he wants to paint us with. If he were to admit that we find just about all religions to be a freakin’ joke designed to control the masses of idiots around the world, he would lose the talking point that we hate Christians.

    If you don’t like me attacking Christianity, then keep it the fu*k out of my Constitutionally secular government morons.


  155. Pblocal69 Says:

    Look, its not the fault of the Recruiter! My Wife is a recruiter and I hardly see her. See works from 7am-10pm everyday except Sun. She would rather be in Iraq than do this. The Army says you have to put 2 people in a month or we ruin your carreer. They have to make at least 2 appointments a day or they don’t go home at a reasonable time. These guys are under extreme pressure and no one wants to sign up. The pool of possible canidate’s for the military is aweful. Most have police records and do take recreational drugs. Lets not forget the Hawks who want this don’t sign up! their kids don’t sign up. You Repubs want to show your patriotism bring your kids do to the recruitment station, your country needs them! I did it for 10 yrs and so has my wife. Its time to walk the walk and not talk the talk.


  156. not impressed with the U.S. Says:

    You anti-Semitic anti-Americans must be happy. Hamas is launching rockets at Israeli schools again. Does it give you pigs that warm fuzzy again?

    Comment by Happy Guy

    Not NEARLY as much as had it have been YOU!!!!!


  157. Mr. President Says:

    Stop da Snitchin’


  158. teak Says:

    yah, i read yesterday that the army is totally infiltrated with street gangs, the Disciples have 20,000 soldiers who are actually murdering other U. S. soldiers. I can only imagine what they’re doing to Iraqis.

    People, the barbarians are at the door. Better refugee North.


  159. erock Says:

    I did it for 10 yrs and so has my wife. Its time to walk the walk and not talk the talk.

    Comment by Pblocal69 — May 17, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

    Sounds like some pretty absurd demands they place on recruiters. Has the pressure to recruit increased since the ill-begotten quagmire in the Middle East started?


  160. Zooey Says:

    trying to educate Libtards is a waste of time. It is easier to teach a monkey sign language than to teach Libetards how to stop being tools, sheeps, robots, drooling zombies of the left.
    Comment by valiantthelover

    By all means, please stop wasting your time.

    Education? Please….you’re only here to vent your hate, anger, and massive inferiority complex.


  161. ForTruth Says:

    Synthetic pee doesn’t always work.


  162. valiantthelover Says:

    Valiant, where are you getting your facts? Seriously?
    As far as you not “believing” me about being in the AF….I don’t think i’ll be able to go on one minute more thinking I don’t have your trust…..(this from the person who CLAIMS to be an attorney, yet can’t spell everyday words). As I recall, I have busted you down with facts before, and you just resorted to the typical “you’re retarded” response. Is that all you’ve got??

    And Spudge, no offense take, I’m just screwing with ya.

    Comment by Craig Mack — May 17, 2007 @ 3:24 pm

    A lawyer? when the hell have I ever claimed on TP to be a lawyer? My poor lying friend, please! put up date, time and post where I have claimed to be a lawyer. Get a clue!

    Second, I stand by the FACT that recruits are NOT jet fighter pilots. That jet fighter pilots don’t take drug exams in MEPS. This is a ridiculous assertion by TP and those that prepared this hit piece against the military.


  163. valiantthelover Says:

    trying to educate Libtards is a waste of time. It is easier to teach a monkey sign language than to teach Libetards how to stop being tools, sheeps, robots, drooling zombies of the left.
    Comment by valiantthelover

    By all means, please stop wasting your time.

    Education? Please….you’re only here to vent your hate, anger, and massive inferiority complex.

    Comment by Zooey — May 17, 2007 @ 4:06 pm

    projecting aren’t we little Zooey? I am sorry that you have such inferiority complex for being a woman. I pity women like you. such stupid feminazis.


  164. valiantthelover Says:

    TP is lying as usual.

    Comment by valiantthelover — May 17, 2007 @ 2:40 pm

    Just for fun, and because I am a little bored, let’s examine TP’s statement using symbolic logic.

    Here, P represents passing a drug test. J will represent a recruit becoming a fighter pilot.

    TP’s statement is:

    Before they can carry a gun or fly a fighter jet, new recruits must pass a drug test.

    This is logically equivalent to (restricted to matters of P and J):

    J -> P

    Now, if as you claim, recruits never become fighter pilots, then we always have:

    -J

    Using basic logic, we know that this does not directly imply -P. Rather, applying modus tollens gives us

    -P -> -J

    Or, not passing a drug test prohibits a recruit from becoming a fighter pilot.

    Never does TP’s statement lend itself to P -> J, no matter how you much you would like it to.

    Comment by erock — May 17, 2007 @ 3:11 pm

    wow, your “logic” is completly flawed.

    read what TP posted in the article above….they claimed that jet fighter pilots take drug tests at MEPS!

    that is a complete and utter lie!

    c’mon erock, I know that you are one Liberal that is smarter than the rest of the Liberal idiots that post on TP.


  165. Zooey Says:

    Craig Mack,

    This idiotic troll is not valiant venus, who claims to be an attorney.
    This is a different moronic troll, who has adopted part of vv’s name, for whatever reason.