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	<title>Comments on: Cheney seeks immunity in Plame lawsuit.</title>
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		<title>By: Cliff Ross</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3811472</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 23:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These smug bastards need to see that they ARE subject to our laws! The entire govfernment is being run by buddies and political right wingers of the Bushwacker. Apparently no experience other than voting republican is required now.
 If I blabbed secrets, I would expect to be accountable.So should these bigmouths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These smug bastards need to see that they ARE subject to our laws! The entire govfernment is being run by buddies and political right wingers of the Bushwacker. Apparently no experience other than voting republican is required now.<br />
 If I blabbed secrets, I would expect to be accountable.So should these bigmouths.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3811472', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810426</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 14:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83  You took the words right out of my mouth.

Wouldn&#039;t my first defense be &quot;I didn&#039;t do anything wrong.&quot; rather than &quot;I claim immunity.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83  You took the words right out of my mouth.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t my first defense be &#8220;I didn&#8217;t do anything wrong.&#8221; rather than &#8220;I claim immunity.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810426', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the heathen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810362</link>
		<dc:creator>the heathen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would cheney request immunity if nothing illegal was done?
methinks he wants to hide something or someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would cheney request immunity if nothing illegal was done?<br />
methinks he wants to hide something or someone.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810362', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: drew_ill</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810352</link>
		<dc:creator>drew_ill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I M P E A C H ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I M P E A C H &#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810352', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dono</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810334</link>
		<dc:creator>dono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does he have secret x-ray vision too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does he have secret x-ray vision too?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810334', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810331</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Treason&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Treason</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810331', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Not Canadian</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810320</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 12:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to &lt;strong&gt;IMPEACH &lt;/strong&gt;the whole friggin&#039; lot.

F*ck you, Dick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to <strong>IMPEACH </strong>the whole friggin&#8217; lot.</p>
<p>F*ck you, Dick.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810320', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arne Langsetmo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810276</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne Langsetmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 07:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[A]bsolute immunity from any lawsuit&quot;?!?!?

He oughtta go look up &lt;i&gt;Clinton v. Jones&lt;/i&gt;....

Not to mention, at least on paper, he&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; the Preznit.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[A]bsolute immunity from any lawsuit&#8221;?!?!?</p>
<p>He oughtta go look up <i>Clinton v. Jones</i>&#8230;.</p>
<p>Not to mention, at least on paper, he&#8217;s <i>not</i> the Preznit.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810276', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Englischlehrer</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810275</link>
		<dc:creator>Englischlehrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 07:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>immunity from any lawsuit?  Not to sound like a rap song but &quot;nigga please&quot;! (NOT meant in a racist way WHATSOEVER, more as in incredulity).  Who does he think he is?  We still have laws in this country and he can definitely be found guilty, or that he has to pay money in a civil case.  He thinks he&#039;s doing what&#039;s good for the country, that&#039;s the scariest thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>immunity from any lawsuit?  Not to sound like a rap song but &#8220;nigga please&#8221;! (NOT meant in a racist way WHATSOEVER, more as in incredulity).  Who does he think he is?  We still have laws in this country and he can definitely be found guilty, or that he has to pay money in a civil case.  He thinks he&#8217;s doing what&#8217;s good for the country, that&#8217;s the scariest thing!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810275', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 05:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rove beetles are known from every type of habitat that beetles occur in, and their diets include just about everything except the living tissues of higher plants. Most rove beetles are predators of insects and other kinds of invertebrates, living in forest leaf litter and similar kinds of decaying plant matter. They are also commonly found under stones, and around freshwater margins. Several types are known to live on ocean shores that are submerged at high tide, several species have adapted to live as inquilines in ant and termite colonies, and some are &quot;parasites&quot; of mammals that actually benefit their hosts by eating fleas and other parasites. Few species, notably those of the genus Aleochara, are parasitoids of other insects, particularly of certain fly pupae.

Although rove beetles&#039; appetites for other insects would seem to make them obvious candidates for biological control of pests, and empirically they are believed to be important controls in the wild, experiments with using them have not been notably successful. Greater success is seen with those species (genus Aleochara) that are parasitoids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rove beetles are known from every type of habitat that beetles occur in, and their diets include just about everything except the living tissues of higher plants. Most rove beetles are predators of insects and other kinds of invertebrates, living in forest leaf litter and similar kinds of decaying plant matter. They are also commonly found under stones, and around freshwater margins. Several types are known to live on ocean shores that are submerged at high tide, several species have adapted to live as inquilines in ant and termite colonies, and some are &#8220;parasites&#8221; of mammals that actually benefit their hosts by eating fleas and other parasites. Few species, notably those of the genus Aleochara, are parasitoids of other insects, particularly of certain fly pupae.</p>
<p>Although rove beetles&#8217; appetites for other insects would seem to make them obvious candidates for biological control of pests, and empirically they are believed to be important controls in the wild, experiments with using them have not been notably successful. Greater success is seen with those species (genus Aleochara) that are parasitoids.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810256', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: VerbalKint</title>
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		<dc:creator>VerbalKint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 05:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously.  Otherwise I don&#039;t get it.  But I don&#039;t get why anyone would sell their soul to belong to the Bush administration, either.  And that is the going price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously.  Otherwise I don&#8217;t get it.  But I don&#8217;t get why anyone would sell their soul to belong to the Bush administration, either.  And that is the going price.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810228', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: VerbalKint</title>
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		<dc:creator>VerbalKint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 05:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who on earth would defend Karl Rove except for a Rove employee or acolyte?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who on earth would defend Karl Rove except for a Rove employee or acolyte?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810224', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: VerbalKint</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/cheney-seeks-immunity-in-plame-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-3810221</link>
		<dc:creator>VerbalKint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 05:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Nobody has proven Rove lied. 
Comment by m12 â€” May 17, 2007 @ 11:51 pm&lt;/em&gt;

To the contrary, it is quite clear that he made false statements to the grand jury.  He was granted an 11th hour reprieve by agreeing to appear before the grand jury and change his testimony.

I&#039;ll bet Karl says that a lot, doesn&#039;t he?  &quot;Just tell them NO ONE, not NO ONE, can prove that KARL ROVE lied!&quot;  I&#039;ll bet he roars when he says it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Nobody has proven Rove lied.<br />
Comment by m12 â€” May 17, 2007 @ 11:51 pm</em></p>
<p>To the contrary, it is quite clear that he made false statements to the grand jury.  He was granted an 11th hour reprieve by agreeing to appear before the grand jury and change his testimony.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet Karl says that a lot, doesn&#8217;t he?  &#8220;Just tell them NO ONE, not NO ONE, can prove that KARL ROVE lied!&#8221;  I&#8217;ll bet he roars when he says it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810221', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Knappy Headed Ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knappy Headed Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Nobody has proven Rove lied. 

Please explain why someone who wasnt planning on lying would tell congress &quot;I&#039;ll testify in front of you, but not under oath&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Nobody has proven Rove lied. </p>
<p>Please explain why someone who wasnt planning on lying would tell congress &#8220;I&#8217;ll testify in front of you, but not under oath&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810217', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Knappy Headed Ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knappy Headed Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 04:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Justice Breyer also set a higher standard, namely, 
&gt; that the lawsuit cannot
&gt; impede the Presidentâ€™s duties to carry out his office.

A) Good thing for PLame that the presidents duties have nothing to do with this case.. their not suing the president, genius. 

B) Its also a good thing for plame that even if you can somehow twist that argument to include the vice president, the only official duties delgated to the vice president is casting the tie-breaking vote in the senate. I dont think a lawsuit would impede the ability to say &quot;nay&quot; or &quot;yay&quot;. 

http://www.answers.com/topic/vice-president-u-s
&quot;The Vice President has no constitutional responsibilities other than serving as president of the Senate, presiding over that body, and voting only to break ties. &quot;

Keep making up all the flimsy excuses all you want BM12, your not a legal scholar and its obvious you dont want the truth abotu cheney&#039;s retaliation coming out.  And thats what it was, retaliation. And I&#039;m constantly amused by your &quot;theres no proof theres no proof nya nya nya&quot;... yet somehow once Mr. &quot;we know where saddams WMD are&quot; decides your a terrorist, no proof is needed to imprison you... so please, enlighten me as to who, in your mind, are the people we need to have evidence against before we pass judgement on them? brown people and other foreigners, right?

Are you enjoying life these days as one of Dick&#039;s Dead Enders, its obvious nothing can can sway you from your distorted....nay....completely hallucinatory view of these people as some sort of inerrant messiah rescuing you from the hordes of brown people screaming for your baby&#039;s blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Justice Breyer also set a higher standard, namely,<br />
&gt; that the lawsuit cannot<br />
&gt; impede the Presidentâ€™s duties to carry out his office.</p>
<p>A) Good thing for PLame that the presidents duties have nothing to do with this case.. their not suing the president, genius. </p>
<p>B) Its also a good thing for plame that even if you can somehow twist that argument to include the vice president, the only official duties delgated to the vice president is casting the tie-breaking vote in the senate. I dont think a lawsuit would impede the ability to say &#8220;nay&#8221; or &#8220;yay&#8221;. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/vice-president-u-s" rel="nofollow">http://www.answers.com/topic/vice-president-u-s</a><br />
&#8220;The Vice President has no constitutional responsibilities other than serving as president of the Senate, presiding over that body, and voting only to break ties. &#8221;</p>
<p>Keep making up all the flimsy excuses all you want BM12, your not a legal scholar and its obvious you dont want the truth abotu cheney&#8217;s retaliation coming out.  And thats what it was, retaliation. And I&#8217;m constantly amused by your &#8220;theres no proof theres no proof nya nya nya&#8221;&#8230; yet somehow once Mr. &#8220;we know where saddams WMD are&#8221; decides your a terrorist, no proof is needed to imprison you&#8230; so please, enlighten me as to who, in your mind, are the people we need to have evidence against before we pass judgement on them? brown people and other foreigners, right?</p>
<p>Are you enjoying life these days as one of Dick&#8217;s Dead Enders, its obvious nothing can can sway you from your distorted&#8230;.nay&#8230;.completely hallucinatory view of these people as some sort of inerrant messiah rescuing you from the hordes of brown people screaming for your baby&#8217;s blood.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810215', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPark</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 04:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, m12, you keep believing Rove is one upstanding citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, m12, you keep believing Rove is one upstanding citizen.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810211', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 04:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nation of laws (Light AntiTank Weapons Systems)</description>
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		<title>By: Vance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 04:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullets have no concept of immunity......so I hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullets have no concept of immunity&#8230;&#8230;so I hear.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810158', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: m12</title>
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		<dc:creator>m12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 03:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nice dodge, liar. No one was charged because Libby and Rove lied, and Fitzgerald couldnâ€™t reach Cheney, whom he clearly regards as guilty.
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Nobody has proven Rove lied. Fitzgerald can think whatever he wants. He hasn&#039;t filed charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nice dodge, liar. No one was charged because Libby and Rove lied, and Fitzgerald couldnâ€™t reach Cheney, whom he clearly regards as guilty.<br />
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<p>Nobody has proven Rove lied. Fitzgerald can think whatever he wants. He hasn&#8217;t filed charges.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810151', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: m12</title>
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		<dc:creator>m12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 03:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;m12, you are incorrect. The Paula Jones lawsuit had nothing to do with when it occured. Indeed, the Clinton lawyers only wanted to stay proceedings until after his term in office ended. But Republicans insisted he be tried while in office and they won.
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The standard set was that elected officials do not have immunity for unofficial acts not related to the duties of said office. Given that the PJ harassment took place before Clinton came into office, it&#039;s clearly an unofficial act.

&lt;i&gt;There is no such thing as presidential immunity. The president or veep is NOT above the Law. And leaking Plameâ€™s name was against Federal law. A law that existed long before Bushâ€™s famous signing statements. Cheney is not immune. And you canâ€™t say he wasnâ€™t the leaker because thatâ€™s something not proven yet in a court of law. Indeed, there is good reason to believe he was the leaker.
&lt;/i&gt;

Cheney has not been charged with any crime. He doesn&#039;t have to prove anything.

Justice Breyer also set a higher standard,  namely, that the lawsuit cannot impede the President&#039;s duties to carry out his office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>m12, you are incorrect. The Paula Jones lawsuit had nothing to do with when it occured. Indeed, the Clinton lawyers only wanted to stay proceedings until after his term in office ended. But Republicans insisted he be tried while in office and they won.<br />
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<p>The standard set was that elected officials do not have immunity for unofficial acts not related to the duties of said office. Given that the PJ harassment took place before Clinton came into office, it&#8217;s clearly an unofficial act.</p>
<p><i>There is no such thing as presidential immunity. The president or veep is NOT above the Law. And leaking Plameâ€™s name was against Federal law. A law that existed long before Bushâ€™s famous signing statements. Cheney is not immune. And you canâ€™t say he wasnâ€™t the leaker because thatâ€™s something not proven yet in a court of law. Indeed, there is good reason to believe he was the leaker.<br />
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<p>Cheney has not been charged with any crime. He doesn&#8217;t have to prove anything.</p>
<p>Justice Breyer also set a higher standard,  namely, that the lawsuit cannot impede the President&#8217;s duties to carry out his office.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3810147', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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