Comments on: 2007: Hottest year ever thus far. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:27:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Kilo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3812473 Kilo Sun, 20 May 2007 06:25:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3812473 <blockquote>Rapid climate change like that COULD happen, especially if ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica slide into the ocean. Comment by Tom3 — May 18, 2007 @ 1:01 pm</blockquote> Er... no. It could not happen like that. That's pretty much why you see the climate change denial folks, who call climate change unrealistic hysteria, citing The Day After Tomorrow more than people who have realistic concerns.

Rapid climate change like that COULD happen, especially if ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica slide into the ocean.
Comment by Tom3 — May 18, 2007 @ 1:01 pm

Er… no. It could not happen like that.
That’s pretty much why you see the climate change denial folks, who call climate change unrealistic hysteria, citing The Day After Tomorrow more than people who have realistic concerns.

]]> By: erock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811681 erock Sat, 19 May 2007 03:16:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811681 According to the data presented in the article, the west coast is feeling the increase and in the more conservative part of the country there is actually a temperature decrease. Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 11:05 pm That may be, but it doesn't make sense. The largest "blue" stronghold is in the northeast which is aslo blue in the map. Basically I was calling him out for a stupid and pointless statement. Something that someone with the moniker "Libhater" was clearly inviting. According to the data presented in the article, the west coast is feeling the increase and in the more conservative part of the country there is actually a temperature decrease.

Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 11:05 pm

That may be, but it doesn’t make sense. The largest “blue” stronghold is in the northeast which is aslo blue in the map. Basically I was calling him out for a stupid and pointless statement. Something that someone with the moniker “Libhater” was clearly inviting.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811672 Mr. President Sat, 19 May 2007 03:05:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811672 What are you talking about? Comment by erock — May 18, 2007 @ 8:19 pm He's talking about the color-coded map above. When go to the original article it is explained that the red colored dots represent temperature increase, while the blue dots show a decrease. According to the data presented in the article, the west coast is feeling the increase and in the more conservative part of the country there is actually a temperature decrease. What are you talking about?

Comment by erock — May 18, 2007 @ 8:19 pm

He’s talking about the color-coded map above. When go to the original article it is explained that the red colored dots represent temperature increase, while the blue dots show a decrease. According to the data presented in the article, the west coast is feeling the increase and in the more conservative part of the country there is actually a temperature decrease.

]]> By: erock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811643 erock Sat, 19 May 2007 02:22:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811643 I believe that Libhater is saying that the red states are changing to blue and the blue states are holdng fast. Comment by WaltTheMan — May 18, 2007 @ 9:48 pm That's very astute of him. Republican support is eroding all across the country. I believe that Libhater is saying that the red states are changing to blue and the blue states are holdng fast.

Comment by WaltTheMan — May 18, 2007 @ 9:48 pm

That’s very astute of him. Republican support is eroding all across the country.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811623 WaltTheMan Sat, 19 May 2007 01:48:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811623 I believe that Libhater is saying that the red states are changing to blue and the blue states are holdng fast. I believe that Libhater is saying that the red states are changing to blue and the blue states are holdng fast.

]]> By: erock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811552 erock Sat, 19 May 2007 00:19:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811552 Look how blue the red states turned and how red the blue states are in the U.S.? The times they are a-changin’! Comment by Libhater — May 18, 2007 @ 6:54 pm What are you talking about? Look how blue the red states turned and how red the blue states are in the U.S.? The times they are a-changin’!

Comment by Libhater — May 18, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

What are you talking about?

]]> By: Libhater http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811449 Libhater Fri, 18 May 2007 22:54:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811449 Look how blue the red states turned and how red the blue states are in the U.S.? The times they are a-changin'! Look how blue the red states turned and how red the blue states are in the U.S.? The times they are a-changin’!

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811411 WaltTheMan Fri, 18 May 2007 22:12:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811411 "the universe" should read "our universe" in my post #138. “the universe” should read “our universe” in my post #138.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811405 WaltTheMan Fri, 18 May 2007 22:08:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811405 All scientific laws up to to the present and the forseeable future have a margin of error. That margin of error has decreased over time, but the relationship of matter to energy and time has yet to be nailed down. Physicists at the Cern facility are hoping to nail that down next year when they try to recreate the events that lead to the creation of the universe. All scientific laws up to to the present and the forseeable future have a margin of error. That margin of error has decreased over time, but the relationship of matter to energy and time has yet to be nailed down. Physicists at the Cern facility are hoping to nail that down next year when they try to recreate the events that lead to the creation of the universe.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811398 Mr. President Fri, 18 May 2007 22:03:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811398 Comment by Juan C — May 18, 2007 @ 5:31 pm They took down my recommendations for some reason. anyway, Rudolf Carnap, "The Logical Structure of the World", "Testability and Meaning" Willard Quine, "Two Dogmas of Empiricism", "Epistemology Naturalized" (both are articles) A.J. Ayer, "Language, Truth, and Logic" Comment by Juan C — May 18, 2007 @ 5:31 pm

They took down my recommendations for some reason.

anyway,

Rudolf Carnap, “The Logical Structure of the World”, “Testability and Meaning”

Willard Quine, “Two Dogmas of Empiricism”, “Epistemology Naturalized” (both are articles)

A.J. Ayer, “Language, Truth, and Logic”

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811384 Mr. President Fri, 18 May 2007 21:54:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811384 It depends on what valid means to you. Comment by Juan C — May 18, 2007 @ 5:47 pm The problem is, social, political, and psychological factors play a part in our understanding of the world. The NAZIs science was "laden" with political and racist "theory", and was therefore, in our eyes, fundamentally flawed. It depends on what valid means to you.

Comment by Juan C — May 18, 2007 @ 5:47 pm

The problem is, social, political, and psychological factors play a part in our understanding of the world. The NAZIs science was “laden” with political and racist “theory”, and was therefore, in our eyes, fundamentally flawed.

]]> By: erock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811376 erock Fri, 18 May 2007 21:48:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811376 I should mention that my last post in no way defends the "research" of the Nazi "scientists." I should mention that my last post in no way defends the “research” of the Nazi “scientists.”

]]> By: Juan C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811373 Juan C Fri, 18 May 2007 21:47:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811373 we might also agree that the NAZI eugenic “scientists” thought that what they were “researching” was valid. Comment by Mr. President It depends on what valid means to you. we might also agree that the NAZI eugenic “scientists” thought that what they were “researching” was valid.
Comment by Mr. President

It depends on what valid means to you.

]]> By: erock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811369 erock Fri, 18 May 2007 21:41:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811369 Yes, but if I’m allowed to equivocate, we might also agree that the NAZI eugenic “scientists” thought that what they were “researching” was valid. Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 5:35 pm Research in and of itself is never invalid. Pointless, maybe. Only conclusions can be deemed invalid. Yes, but if I’m allowed to equivocate, we might also agree that the NAZI eugenic “scientists” thought that what they were “researching” was valid.

Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 5:35 pm

Research in and of itself is never invalid. Pointless, maybe. Only conclusions can be deemed invalid.

]]> By: erock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811363 erock Fri, 18 May 2007 21:36:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811363 Those are my favorite kind of geniuses… kind like… … Bush! Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 5:31 pm People that are blind to their own shortcomings is not a subset of geniuses. Likewise, the set of people who are the current president is disjoint to geniuses. Those are my favorite kind of geniuses… kind like…

… Bush!

Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 5:31 pm

People that are blind to their own shortcomings is not a subset of geniuses. Likewise, the set of people who are the current president is disjoint to geniuses.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811361 Mr. President Fri, 18 May 2007 21:35:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811361 However, I guess we have to agree that those scientists working and measuring things have a very solid idea of what they are saying is the most probable thing. Comment by Juan C — May 18, 2007 @ 5:28 pm Yes, but if I'm allowed to equivocate, we might also agree that the NAZI eugenic "scientists" thought that what they were "researching" was valid. However, I guess we have to agree that those scientists working and measuring things have a very solid idea of what they are saying is the most probable thing.

Comment by Juan C — May 18, 2007 @ 5:28 pm

Yes, but if I’m allowed to equivocate, we might also agree that the NAZI eugenic “scientists” thought that what they were “researching” was valid.

]]> By: Juan C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811357 Juan C Fri, 18 May 2007 21:34:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811357 … Bush! Comment by Mr. President Bush is a bizarre Newton that couldnt handle the Pest and stayed in the barn his whole life. … Bush!
Comment by Mr. President

Bush is a bizarre Newton that couldnt handle the Pest and stayed in the barn his whole life.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811348 Mr. President Fri, 18 May 2007 21:31:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811348 Hehehe, he was a genius, he wouldnt allow himself any kind of criticism, so he was careful enough to say that there was something in the nature of light that wasnt explained yet. Comment by Juan C — May 18, 2007 @ 5:22 pm Those are my favorite kind of geniuses... kind like... ... Bush! Hehehe, he was a genius, he wouldnt allow himself any kind of criticism, so he was careful enough to say that there was something in the nature of light that wasnt explained yet.

Comment by Juan C — May 18, 2007 @ 5:22 pm

Those are my favorite kind of geniuses… kind like…

… Bush!

]]> By: Juan C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811346 Juan C Fri, 18 May 2007 21:31:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811346 I know more about philosophy of science than of the actual particulars in physics, Comment by Mr. President Recommend me a good, not too deep book about philosophy of science. I read Kuhn´s Structure of Scientific Revolutions but thats all. I know more about philosophy of science than of the actual particulars in physics,
Comment by Mr. President

Recommend me a good, not too deep book about philosophy of science. I read Kuhn´s Structure of Scientific Revolutions but thats all.

]]> By: erock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/comment-page-3/#comment-3811341 erock Fri, 18 May 2007 21:29:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far/#comment-3811341 No problem, by the way, I know more about philosophy of science than of the actual particulars in physics, so what I said about absolute space, absolute time and Relativity is probably not 100% accurate (and I will not try to maintain my position on those points if I am proved wrong). Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 5:26 pm That's ok, all I know is math which thankfully is generalizable (in part) to most fields...particularly logic and theoretical physics. No problem, by the way, I know more about philosophy of science than of the actual particulars in physics, so what I said about absolute space, absolute time and Relativity is probably not 100% accurate (and I will not try to maintain my position on those points if I am proved wrong).

Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 5:26 pm

That’s ok, all I know is math which thankfully is generalizable (in part) to most fields…particularly logic and theoretical physics.

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