ExxonMobil Lied, Continues to Lavishly Fund Prominent Global Warming Deniers
ExxonMobil Lied, Continues to Lavishly Fund Prominent Global Warming Deniers
In January, oil giant ExxonMobil tried to “soften” its stance on climate change, asserting that it was “misunderstood” and now acknowledges the contribution of humans to global warming. Subsequently, the company promised that it would “not be providing any further funding” to groups that distort global warming science, such as the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
But a new report from GreenPeace reveals what the company “didn’t mention” to the public. According to its IRS reports, Exxon is still actively funding at least 14 organizations “for their climate change work.”
These groups include organizations like Frontiers for Freedom, which recently released a report “dedicated entirely to questioning global warming science, policy and attacking Al Gore.”
Today, Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC) wrote to ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson lambasting the company for its inconsistency on global warming and urging the company to provide “full accounting of actual giving” to these climate skeptic groups, records which it has withheld from the public:
In a September 20, 2006, press release, ExxonMobil claimed it was reviewing funding for the coming year and that support for “organizations is publicly posted on our website.” […]
ExxonMobil’s clarification has yet to receive clarity. The analysis done by Greenpeace highlights disparities between your 2005 World Giving Report and actual giving as reflected in the copy of your IRS 990 tax form…the 2006 World Giving Report confirms that ExxonMobil has not stopped supporting climate skeptic organizations, as past statements from the Corporation suggested would be the stance of the company. […]
The support of climate skeptics, many of whom have no real grounding in climate science, appears to be an effort to distort public discussion about global warming…It is indefensible for private entities to fund phony science to create fictional “scientific” controversies where no legitimate controversy exists.
The report confirms ExxonMobil’s new policy on global warming is the same as its old policy.
See Miller’s full letter to ExxonMobil HERE. See GreenPeace’s report HERE.
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we all lie to sell our products so what
May 18th, 2007 at 1:20 pmGive the guy a bonus. The more he lies the more he makes.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:20 pmPreemptive link to New Scientist’s brand new guide to the most common climate skeptic myths: http://environment.newscientist.com/climatemyths
Bring it on, trolls. Bring. It. On.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:22 pmBig Oil f*cking lies.
Well, I’m surprised. Not.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:22 pmbuy shares now ExxonMobil it will be worth trillions when we get Iraqs oil
tips from the whitehouse
May 18th, 2007 at 1:23 pm“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.”
May 18th, 2007 at 1:24 pmwe all lie to sell our products so what - Comment by Jake
We know, troll. You lie every single day to sell your product, Chimpy.
Go back under your bridge, troll.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:25 pmThe Department of Homeland Security’s Customs and Border Protection chief of staff is 30 year old Steve Atkiss.
Atkiss is the son of Tony Atkiss, former Exxon Mobil Vice President for Public Affairs.
Steve Atkiss served in the White House prior to going to DHS, and most notably shared an office with Rove’s assistant Susan Ralston 3 doors down from the Oval Office. Atkiss was also directly responsible for throwing out the “Denver Three” from a taxpayer funded event in Denver 2005 for the sole crime of having a “no blood for oil” bumper sticker on their car.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:27 pmSteve Asskiss.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:30 pmThis seems to go beyond simple greed and avarice…it’s almost as if these people are trying their best to destroy the planet.
Are they trying to murder the world? It doesn’t make any sense…
May 18th, 2007 at 1:30 pmRecord profits, yet every Mobil station in my neighborhood (4+) has stopped selling gas. One even closed entirely. Apparently, their underground tanks don’t meet modern day code.
Or, in other words, there must be too much supply from their perspective.
FREAKIN’ CROOKS.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:30 pmAre they trying to murder the world? It doesn’t make any sense…
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
They don’t care — they want their money NOW.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:38 pmZooey
When they brazenly admit to having no problem with lying to people in order to get them to buy their products, well you know that as a political movement based on values they have some mighty wierd ones.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:44 pmHey Jaketard,
I dont lie to sell my product.
That’s what you’ve learned in all your years, it’s O.K. to lie?
No wonder you side with the ethically bankrupt Conserv666ative Republic666ans
Go play shuffleboard old man we don’t need you grey hair out of touch fascists ruining the American dream.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:47 pmJake: “we all lie to sell our products so what”
Sorry, that’s just not true. It may be comforting for you to convince yourself of that, since it might make you feel better about your own lying, but it’s just another example of projection.
What we need right now is a windfall profits tax for the oil industry and a congressional investigation into price-fixing which includes forced testimony under oath.
May 18th, 2007 at 1:50 pmNo, Exxon doesn’t stand to make money off of this, it’s the Weather Channel that will reap huge profits if global warming is believed by the masses. Think of how many people will watch and how their advertising revenue will go up.
Exxon simply doesn’t have a vested interest in this whole debate. It’s the rabid environmentalists that want to profit off of this. They can sell t-shirts and coffee mugs.
/sarcasm - (Didn’t Inhofe actually suggest that the Weather Channel was motivated to take a position on this?)
May 18th, 2007 at 1:57 pmComment by Bluedog49 — May 18, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
Do you think Jake has a “product”? His ideas, writing, lies are all not marketable. His posturing as an intellectual, really bad acting. Nope, Jake is definitely bankrupt.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:00 pmThat’s right, Vinnie, and according to climate expert Michael Cricton, environmentalists have an unquenchable desire for power and wealth, while industrial capitalists are simply good guys trying to make a buck.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:02 pmJake, that’s not very Christian of you to lie to people for profit.
Thats why I call you, and your types, worshippers of Mammon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon
May 18th, 2007 at 2:03 pmMammon is a word used in the Bible to describe riches, avarice, and worldly gain. It is personified as a false god in the New Testament. Often, mammon is regarded as material wealth and thought to have an evil influence.
I want to see the CEO’s of all the major oil companies forced to testify under oath before congress about price fixing and monopoly. If they won’t testify, I want them frog-marched to jail. I want to see a potent windfall profits tax. I want to see Rex Tillerson sweating and whining.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:05 pmI want to see the Sherman Anti-trust Act ENFORCED!
May 18th, 2007 at 2:07 pmZooey
When they brazenly admit to having no problem with lying to people in order to get them to buy their products, well you know that as a political movement based on values they have some mighty wierd ones.
Comment by Bruce Gorton
It’s totally sick! And what’s more sick is that so many people don’t seem to have a problem with it.
“Well, they’re in business to make money, is there something wrong with that?”
YES!! They’re killing our ability to live on this planet, and laughing in our faces while they do it.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:09 pmwho cares so long as gas prices go down
May 18th, 2007 at 2:12 pmBuy Citgo. Boycott Exxon and Mobil.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:15 pmIce sheets the size of California have melted off the Antarctic continent, and these f*ckers still deny global warming.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:19 pmIt’s interesting that the trolls are all over every other thread related to global warming. Often voraciously so. They always dodge questions about the funding of the research that doubts the dangers of global warming. Now that there’s a thread that points out what’s really behind the funding of this research (which we all knew anyway), they have nothing to say.
BTW, I think that the Jake and Mr P posts on this thread are name-jacked. Please, I can understand the temptation to do this. But let’s let the trolls make fools of them all by themselves. They have shown complete competence at doing this in the past.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:20 pm“Well, they’re in business to make money, is there something wrong with that?â€
You could say the same thing about heroin dealers and slave traders. The point is that those things are against the law and so is monopoly and price fixing.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:20 pm#27,
Exactly!
May 18th, 2007 at 2:24 pmYou know my Liberal friends, it is weird, when I was in power (man did I love having power!) the oil companies were also in bed with me. (althought I prefer big boobed brunettes). and none of you Liberlas complained back then.
I remember well that when I left office the price of gasoline had risen above $2.00. No one cared.
Was it my looks? was it my lies? was it Sandy Burger stealing secret documents for me? I don’t know, I know it was my “good” policies since I didn’t care for the American people.
Anyway, we Democrats made millions of dollars thanks to the oil companies.
They don’t care who is in power, as long as they make money.
I wasn’t going to be stupid enough and not get in on the deals during the 1990s, you know.
I mean I had a much better relationship with the Sauid princeses than Bush does today.
I mean I didn’t only hold the hand of a Saudi prince, I held a lot more…wink, wink, wink….if you know what I mean!
May 18th, 2007 at 2:24 pmYES!! They’re killing our ability to live on this planet, and laughing in our faces while they do it.
Comment by Zooey — May 18, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
No, they’re not. They’re just killing our great-grandchildrens’ ability to live on this planet. There’s no guarantee our great-grandchildren will be stockholders in ExxonMobilShellBPChevronTexaco, so why worry about them?
May 18th, 2007 at 2:26 pmYES!! They’re killing our ability to live on this planet, and laughing in our faces while they do it.
Comment by Zooey — May 18, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
No, they’re not. They’re just killing our great-grandchildrens’ ability to live on this planet. There’s no guarantee our great-grandchildren will be stockholders in ExxonMobilShellBPChevronTexaco, so why worry about them?
Comment by toasterhead — May 18, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
You know, Al Gore told me that he was going to lie to the American people about this Global Warming thing. He and I had a great laugh in the Oval Office that day.
I told him, “You know, don’t worrya bout Liberals believing you. They are so easily fooled. Look how despite the fact that I have no morals and I love lying and I never received the majority of the popular votes, they follow me like blind sheeps.” But I told him that he was going to have a problem convincing the well educated conservatives that would see right through his sharade.
Oh well, I guess he thinks he can lie better than I can, right?
good for him, Al Gore, a man after my own heart.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:36 pmSure. No kidding. Some of the trolls here are paid through these institutions or others like them to deny global warming in these threads. No doubt about it.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:40 pmSure. No kidding. Some of the trolls here are paid through these institutions or others like them to deny global warming in these threads. No doubt about it.
Comment by VerbalKint — May 18, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
No, no one is paying them, Al Gore told me it was not true. He specifically told me that he was going to lie to the American people.
I am telling you, Al Gore is lying. That fool couldn’t even win his own State.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:46 pmComment by President Clinton — May 18, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
Quit embarrassing yourself. If you feel this is a desirable way to get attention, I suggest professional counseling.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:48 pmIt would be kind of funny if it weren’t so pathetic. Clinton is stuck so far up conservatives’ collective craw that they’ll never be able to get him out. But, I understand. It must be very galling to constantly be reminded of how competent he was compared to their excuse for a leader.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:49 pmNo, they’re not. They’re just killing our great-grandchildrens’ ability to live on this planet. There’s no guarantee our great-grandchildren will be stockholders in ExxonMobilShellBPChevronTexaco, so why worry about them?
Comment by toasterhead —
Their great-grandchildren probably will be! But they don’t even care about their own families, why expect them to care about ours?
May 18th, 2007 at 2:49 pmSad Bush Cultist: “Al Gore is lying! My evidence? He couldn’t win his own state!”
Yikes. Can anyone get dumber than that????!!!
May 18th, 2007 at 2:52 pmComment by President Clinton — May 18, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
Quit embarrassing yourself. If you feel this is a desirable way to get attention, I suggest professional counseling.
Comment by VerbalKint — May 18, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Why you be like that? why? I am trying to get down with my peeps and here you go and try to put me down.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:54 pmYikes. Can anyone get dumber than that????!!!
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 18, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Yes, squeegeeboo posted something even stupider on the other GW thread.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:56 pmSad Bush Cultist: “Al Gore is lying! My evidence? He couldn’t win his own state!â€
Yikes. Can anyone get dumber than that????!!!
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 18, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Bush Cultist? what? I am on your side my friend. I love the left, I only sleep with women that think Liberal thoughts, well except my wife. I mean here and Janet Reno had a thing going on and man do I love sex, shit do I love it!!!!!! love, love, love, love sex, but man that Janet Reno thing….I swear to you, she was a space alien. I sleep with Michael Jackson before I touch her. I don’t know what my wife saw in here. Ugliest and dumbest thing to walk in the Oval office. Scare the bejeezes out of me every time she walked into the Oval office.
Anyway, please believe me, Al gore is lying, he is. He told me so.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:57 pmSad Bush Cultist: “Al Gore is lying! My evidence? He couldn’t win his own state!â€
Yikes. Can anyone get dumber than that????!!!
Comment by Bluedog49 — May 18, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
wait a minute, wait a minute!!! YOU JUST CALLED ME!! THE SMARTEST PRESIDENT TO EVER SET FOOT ON THE OVAL OFFICE RUCH DUMB?!!
HOW DARE YOU?!!! I will unleash my Liberal lap dogs to destroy you! no one calls me, the smartest President alive, dumb!
remember Vinnie boy called me dumb and he was found “suicided” in a DC park.
just remember that.
May 18th, 2007 at 2:59 pmTheir great-grandchildren probably will be! But they don’t even care about their own families, why expect them to care about ours?
Comment by Zooey — May 18, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Ah, see- their great-grandchildren will live in fully-enclosed SimCity-style arcologies, safely protected from the environmental havoc outside. When things get really bad they will launch themselves into space. True story.
May 18th, 2007 at 3:01 pmPres,
I understand your need to treat this topic with humor. Your type simply can’t accept that your leader has been so irresponsible. You are incapable of discussing this topic seriously.
May 18th, 2007 at 3:03 pmSee GCEP (Global Climate & Energy Project) at Stanford University. Exxon is contributing $100 million.
Exxon also contributes to MIT’s renewable energy program.
See IPCC Reports. Exxon is financial supporter and lead author for 2001 reports.
Meanwhile…
Center for American Progress, TP’s mother ship, purchased about $1 million of Plum Creek Timber shares in 2004.
Plum Creek owns 90% of timber industry’s land in Montana - over 1.5 million acres of prime timber lands. It is stripping Northwest forests at a rate greater than 500 million board feet per year, then redeveloping the land for huge real estate projects.
Plum Creek is financially tied to SPO Partners and Robert Bass, the Texas oil billionaire.
SPO director, William Oberndorf, contributed $75,000 to the campaign against Cali Prop 82.
Plum Creek has proposed a huge development in Maine, the massive Moosehead Lake Project, outraging local conservation groups. Plum Creek has demonstrated a disregard for timber laws and natural resources.
http://www.nrcm.org/news_detail.asp?news=1053
If TP really had concern global warming and the affects of deforestation on climate change, they would tell CAP to divest and quit destroying our nation’s forests. Now. I suggest you send them an email. Please be polite.
May 18th, 2007 at 3:03 pmwho cares so long as gas prices go down
Comment by Mr President — May 18, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
What da f*ck is dis bullshit???
Look hommie, if you’s gonna bite my style ya can’t come off like you got ‘motions a’ sumpin’.
lil’ punk*ss b!tch.
May 18th, 2007 at 3:10 pmThis is news?
May 18th, 2007 at 3:18 pmPres,
I understand your need to treat this topic with humor. Your type simply can’t accept that your leader has been so irresponsible. You are incapable of discussing this topic seriously.
Comment by Vinnie — May 18, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
What is wrong with my Liberal pundits? why the insults? why the put downs? Did I know treat you well during my 8 years in office? Did I not send enough money your way?
My President? Bush is NOT my President, I am my own President.
May 18th, 2007 at 3:20 pmwho cares so long as gas prices go down
Comment by Mr President — May 18, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
What da f*ck is dis bullshit???
Look hommie, if you’s gonna bite my style ya can’t come off like you got ‘motions a’ sumpin’.
lil’ punk*ss b!tch.
Comment by Mr. President — May 18, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
good job Mr. President. You know I let Rush Limbaugh push me around during the 8 years I was in office and man, he was bugg’n I tell you, bugg’n.
don’t let no fool push you around, push ‘em right back.
May 18th, 2007 at 3:21 pmOne hiding behind the Pres moniker,
You’re not funny. You’re not serious. You ARE annoying!!
Do you feel proud? Do you brag to your rightie friends about the great work you are doing pulling down the quality of progressive message boards?
It’s ok. We understand that this is all you’re capable in advancing the great Republican cause (which is sinking BTW).
May 18th, 2007 at 3:43 pmVery few believe only believe what’s in their heart anymore. A very few rely on facts. The fact is that the sun is hot, you, I and the human race will die out eventually and the earth will keep heating and cooling. Why not just take the time to be nice to one another while we are here?
May 18th, 2007 at 3:44 pmI disagree with al politicians, but especially the ones who whine and whine about all the various crazy end of the world theories. Give me your money and votes and I’ll protect you they say. It’s a form of power grabbing.
I refuse to buy into that. The government is the only perpetual motion machine known to man. It keeps itself alive by staying alive. It seeks to build (more government jobs mean more power to the government) itself…and if there are huge problems in the world then you need a huge government to solve them right??? So why not make huge problems like global warming that are not necessarily true or proven.
A real problem is one where people fly planes into buildings and kill people, but that’s another topic. A real problem is starvation (especially when you live in a Tennessee or Massachusetts mansion and speak out of two sides of your mouth.
Lets take back power, lets decide the problems for ourself. Lets limit government together and really, independently figure out if we have major environmental problems and why. Could be chinese coal plants. Could be lack of trees from too much corn being grown for ethanol. Could be the sun. Could be peoples 4 computers and 10 cars (yes even toyata 2 doors are bad).
lets reduce government and figure it out for ourselves.
Comment by marin hippie — May 18, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
So what? Nothing you say, absolutely nothing, exonerates Exxon-Mobil in the slightest. Please try to stay on topic, although I know your intention is to create diversions and disrupt the thread.
May 18th, 2007 at 3:45 pmBlah, blah, blah
Comment by truth
This is a standard tactic for the skeptic crowd. We’ve seen some trolls use this as well. Here’s my synopsis of the strategy:
1) Present yourself as a nice, folksy guy who is just trying to live a decent life. Don’t be confrontational.
2) Mention all sorts of other world problems and how bad they are. Present global warming as just another headline one sees in the sensationalist news.
3) Throw out other possible reasons for global warming. Introduce as much doubt into the discussion as possible.
4) Sound like a concerned person who is taking action on this. Recommend strong-sounding techniques but nothing that would actually hurt oil company profits. Throw in a tinge of apathy that suggests nothing really can be done and there’s no sense in trying.
This one throws in a marked Libertarian bent. The thing about free market economics and pollution is that polluters such as Exxon will NOT be charged for the long-term damage they cause the planet. The only way to make an economic plan of action work would be to properly charge polluters for the damage they do. Of course, Exxon and others fight a carbon tax with all of their breath since they would have to pay a huge amount if they were actually paying for the damage that they are doing to our planet.
May 18th, 2007 at 4:00 pm#52 Comment by Vinnie — May 18, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Good analysis, Vinnie. My guess is that “truth” is a paid liar working for one of the think tanks funded by Exxon-Mobil. The libertarian ideology fits in well with most of these propaganda factories, particularly Cato.
These people are like the professional liars who lied on behalf of the tobacco companies. In fact, some of them (Steven Milloy certainly) cut their teeth as tobacco lobbyists. They will lie forever. Nothing will stop them, neither truth nor shame.
Basically we are talking about people who have absolutely no compuction about lying: lying about who they are, what they stand for, and who pays them to lie.
May 18th, 2007 at 4:07 pmlooks like I had a perfectly reasonable post censored
May 18th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI disagree with al politicians, but especially the ones who whine and whine about all the various crazy end of the world theories.
Comment by truth (sic)
Who says the world is going to end? Climate is going to change. Thats all. Get a grip of reality.
May 18th, 2007 at 4:26 pmI have been boycotting ExxonMobile for years already for many reasons besides this. The other being their anti-discrimination policy.
http://money.cnn.com/ 2006/ 05/ 09/ news/ companies/ pluggedin_fortune/
May 18th, 2007 at 5:34 pmtruth: “Very few believe only believe what’s in their heart anymore.”
WTF???!!!
May 18th, 2007 at 5:46 pmI read about that icesheet off Antarctica that melted; it was the same area as California. That’s terrifying. All the evidence is that global warming is happening even faster than most scientists predicted. Perhaps some small good that will come out of this is that scum like Tillerson and his government (and troll!) helpers will be alive when things start getting really bad. They might reap the whirlwind, as it were. These guys won’t have enough money to protect them no matter how much they have.
May 18th, 2007 at 5:47 pmGreenpeace lies in their 2006 report on Exxon, “Exxon’s Weapons of Mass Deception”:
Exxon “puts around $8 billion a year into oil and gas exploration and production and not one dollar into renewable forms of energy.”
Not one dollar? That is a flat out lie. Just 2 examples:
1)
The Exxon Corporation has made a $1 million grant to MIT to support a comprehensive study of global climate change and its economic and political ramifications.
The Exxon grant will support the work of the MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change. The joint program was established by MIT Provost Mark S. Wrighton with the goal of providing a more complete and coherent basis for global climate policy development, negotiation and implementation.
“On behalf of MIT, I extend our gratitude to the Exxon Corporation for its very significant contribution to this field of vital importance,” Professor Wrighton said. “There is an urgent need in this area of study for more constructive interaction among its components, including climate science, engineering, economic and social science, and policy studies. Promoting such interactions has been a traditional strength of MIT and the Exxon support will enable us to move more effectively in this area.”
and this was news that Greenpeace chose not to reveal…
2)
Exxon is contributing $100 million to GCEP at Stanford University:
“The Global Climate and Energy Project (GCEP) is an unprecedented research collaboration between the scientific and engineering community and major global companies to develop new energy technologies for the future.”
So it’s Greenpeace that is “not mentioning” these facts to the public. And BTW, all of this information is not a secret, but fully disclosed on-line in Exxon’s annual reports to stockholders…you know, stockholders like those liberal icons John Kerry and Harry Reid you have invested 10’s of thousands of dollars in Exxon.
Of course, Satyam buys into the Greenpeace slur and the TP robots blindly follow.
May 18th, 2007 at 7:14 pmmarin hippie, do you work for Exxon?
May 18th, 2007 at 7:24 pmLOL!! I was able to find the source for marin hippie’s first point. He’s right about this. However, it’s from 1993!! I would argue that something that’s 14 years old should be considered ‘history’ and not ‘news’.
http://web.mit.edu/ newsoffice/ 1993/ exxon-0428.html
For the second one, the results of the study were critical to ethanol as an alternative fuel source. (How convenient for Exxon.) Also, the study is not primarily about climate science. It’s about energy.
“The project is not intended to further explore climate science, instead focusing on development of new energy technology and carbon sequestration technology.”
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=81
http://daily.stanford.edu/ article/ 2007/ 5/ 11/ jacobsonTiesToEthanolDisputed
Try again hippie!!
May 18th, 2007 at 8:04 pmVinnie, thank you for helping reveal Greenpeace’s lies. Yes, GP lied when they said Exxon contributed “not one dollar into renewable forms of energy.†Obviously they have…since the early 90’s at least.
Now Google Stanford’s GCEP.
May 18th, 2007 at 8:47 pmI will agree that the “not one dollar” quote was not a good one. With the millions that these guys throw around there’s bound it’s hard to be categorical like that.
I still think the main premise of the Greenpeach research is valid. Even if that quote is technically incorrect, Exxon is still funding the global warming skeptics to a significant degree. That is hard to deny.
I did look at the GCEP. I was not impressed. One of their main conclusions is to focus on hydrogen. Of course, a hydrogen economy is at least 5-10 years off. So in the meantime we’ll use … oil! For all of the money that was spent on the GCEP, I couldn’t find one result that actually looked decent. Could you show us some of the work this great project has done to advance alternative energy?
Of course, you’re more concerned about one inaccuracy than with the ethical implications of what Exxon is doing. I’d say your priorities are a little messed up.
May 18th, 2007 at 9:59 pmI see where el hipster is mistaken. He refers to the report from Greenpeace as from 2006. However, the report is from October of 2002.
http://www.exxposeexxon.com/facts/reports_research.html
The GCEP wasn’t started until December of 2002.
http://gcep.stanford.edu/about/index.html
Thus, you’ll have to provide an example from prior to October of 2002 for your claim to be valid. The report you mention from 1993 is not about renewable energy.
May 19th, 2007 at 1:03 amHey Loons!
It’s a free country.
Big oil can do what they want!
This is capitalism.
If you don’tlike it…move!
And take your SUV with you…hypocrites!
May 19th, 2007 at 1:56 amCepan
What part of GLOBAL don’t you understand?
Moron.
May 19th, 2007 at 9:29 amVinnie responds:
“Thus, you’ll have to provide an example from prior to October of 2002 for your claim to be valid. The report you mention from 1993 is not about renewable energy.”
Forgets what he said earlier regarding Exxon’s funding. Fails to understand that Exxon still funds MIT research, including renewable energy:
“LOL!! I was able to find the source for marin hippie’s first point. He’s right about this. However, it’s from 1993!! I would argue that something that’s 14 years old should be considered ‘history’ and not ‘news’.”
Exxon has been funding MIT, Lawrence Livermore and has a Research and Engineering Company that has funded and researched biofuels since the 90’s. Exxon invested heavily in renewables such as solar in the 80’s. Collaborations with companies and universities in recent years is too numerous to list in 30 seconds, but includes biofuel research and developemt. Once again, see MIT.
Greenpeace was still circulating their lies in 2006 with this old report, I didn’t know they were just recycling lies from 2001.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:34 pmWhat I am seeing is a major assault from Right Wing bloggers like Mike Rivero from whatreallyhappened.com, Alex Jones of PrisonPlanet.com, and Jeff Rense of rense.com
Included in their recent increasing attacks are the ACLU, environmentalists, woman’s libbers, Gays, vegetarians, and labor unions. Global Warming has been up front for years, and I begin to wonder whether the Saudis are behind some of these sites, or are they fronts for some psy-ops, COINTEL style operations. In one hand, you have some pretty logical analysis of 9/11, then they go off on every Liberal, Progressive, humanistic, and social advance in the last 60 years. They rag on Al Gore as being a member of “Illuminati”, and actually take the stance of GW Bush, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh toward Climate Change and Global Warming.
June 1st, 2007 at 7:53 am