Michael Moore yesterday held the first screening of his new film on the health care industry, Sicko, and there to see it were “grateful Sept. 11 ‘first responders,’ suffering lung problems or other ailments from their days at ground zero. In the film, Moore takes them to Cuba and tries to get them treated at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay – where, he contends, terror suspects were getting better medical care than the heroes of 9/11.”
Donna Smith, in from Denver with her husband, Larry, was in tears when she spoke. The film opens with their painful story: Plagued with health problems, they were forced to sell their home and move into the storage room of their daughter’s house because they couldn’t cope with health costs, even though they were insured.
“Health care is an embarrassment to our nation,” Donna told Moore. “You give dignity to every American in this film.”
Lost in all the publicity over Moore’s trip is the reason he went to Cuba in the first place.
He says he hadn’t intended to go, but then discovered the U.S. government was boasting of the excellent medical care it provides terror suspects detained at Guantanamo. So Moore decided that the 9/11 workers and a few other patients, all of whom had serious trouble paying for care at home, should have the same chance.
“Here the detainees were getting colonoscopies and nutrition counseling,” Moore told The Associated Press in an interview, “and these people at home were suffering. I said, ‘We gotta go and see if we can get these people the same treatment the government gives al-Qaida.’ It seemed the only fair thing to do.”
Hey Mr. Moore… with your next kick please wear these steel toed boots… they deserve it.
May 19th, 2007 at 3:37 pmi didn’t realize that moore’s trip to cuba had included knocking on gitmo’s door… what a brilliant stroke…
May 19th, 2007 at 3:37 pmAnd, yes, I DO take it personally
I have not seen the movie, but then again I really don’t need to see it.
It’s bullshit. Just bullshit.
If the medical care of the US citizens really was as bad as MM wants it to be, don’t you think we’d have a MASSIVE wave of people traveling abroad to get their little ailments fixed for the socialist cost? And since we don’t see anything like that, what does it tell about the premise of MMs so called “documentary”? Bullshit.
May 19th, 2007 at 3:41 pmMoore can be over the top at times, but I enjoy his work and I especially enjoy watching the reactions of the GOPtards and their exploding heads. That never gets old.
May 19th, 2007 at 3:52 pm“the detainees were getting colonoscopies and nutrition counseling”
And here we thought it was all waterboarding and forced feeding via tubes shoved up their noses!
May 19th, 2007 at 3:52 pmwe got the world’s best health care, we got health insurance, and yet even
with those… guess what? it will bankrupt you.
and what’s the reality CORRUPTION… literally it will make your head spin
void of logic… right
best healthcare + the needed insurance and guess what?
you know i am so sick and tired of all this corruption, political termites lining
their pockets and a complete mess, i’ll just keep going on with the healthcare that does not promote disease management in this first place
and if this CROOKS instead promoted REAL healthcare a lot of folks services
wouldn’t be needed, literally the disease management healthcare would
come tumbling down (healthcare economy) and the insurance economy.
oh no couldn’t have that…. there really isn’t any money to be made promoting healthy healthcare instead of disease healthcare
IT’S SO DOG GONE CORRUPT IT’S ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU… JUST KEEP LINING THEIR POCKETS
Confused yet? i just choose not to participate in this snake oil healthcare
May 19th, 2007 at 3:55 pmfiasco, in so many words, once again corruption screwed up healthcare BIGTIME for a select few large corps to get filthy rich and congress outlawed
real healthcare through rockefellers funding 100 years ago to monopolize
healthcare…. it’s so dog gone corrupt, i ain’t saying it this time
Another great Moore film that will rattle sleeping Americans.
May 19th, 2007 at 3:56 pmSo he didn’t go to Castro’s Cuba, he went to Gitmo!
Good luck charging him with a crime. Ha!
I applaud you, Michael Moore, you made a hell of a point. :-)
May 19th, 2007 at 3:59 pm#4:
May 19th, 2007 at 4:00 pmYou have to have them in good health to withstand longer bouts of torture. If they divulge quickly, without being thoroughly waterbarded, the information they give is, naturally, suspect.
Gitmo? Michael Moore belongs there.
May 19th, 2007 at 4:03 pmMore must see from Daily Show:
May 19th, 2007 at 4:03 pmhttp://rawstory.com/news/2007/Jon_Stewart_Comey_intrigue_retold_as_0518.html
Moore ROCKS!
May 19th, 2007 at 4:05 pmoh, regarding sending folks in right after 9/11 without the neccessary
protection and now those folks need disease mangement, what does
bush do? they needed the services directly related to 9/11/2007 and
bush runs the other way to make sure they DON”T receive healthcare
oh and regarding the epa lies and deception, absolutely the entire
fiasco leading up to 9/11/2001 and afterwards, it’s all so dog gone
corrupted it’s enough to make you PUKE
i don’t think anything else could describle the cesspool of complete political scum, political crinimal activity, and political swindlers, literally a bunch of hoodlums
what a bunch of scum bags, totally corrupt, literally a cesspool of political
parasites, leeches, maggots, ticks, roaches, termites and most important lots of people lining their pockets with public money, that a almost no risk on loans there a bunch of political leeches and then of course there’s my trusty telephone to solicit as many political bribes that i can get.
absolutely disgusting isn’t it
May 19th, 2007 at 4:07 pmoh
and another thing……..
your going to trust these birds with national healthcare………..
you’ll get one single penny of service for every dollar
that national healthcare would become totally corrupted
May 19th, 2007 at 4:08 pmIt’s easier for the GOP to attack Michael Moore, the Dixie Chicks, and John Edwards haircut than to deal with the failed Bush White House. With an unpopular President escalating an unpopular war it’s no wonder the GOP want to look to “bad guys” like Moore to distract attention from the Bush debacle.
May 19th, 2007 at 4:11 pmGuess what Fox news “Brilliant and Uplifting”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273875,00.html
May 19th, 2007 at 4:11 pmComment by BottomBoy — Go find your topper Cheney and spend Saturday cuddling. Funny that the Republicans can’t seem to make a film depicted as being factual? There always determined to be bullcrap, then turned from a docu-drama to “”The events depicted in this movie are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental.” Don’t see that in Michael Moore films.
May 19th, 2007 at 4:12 pmHeader should read:
“Taco Bell Executives Thank Moore for His Patronization”
May 19th, 2007 at 4:12 pmGitmo? Bush and Cheney belongs there….
May 19th, 2007 at 4:16 pm“Here the detainees were getting colonoscopies and nutrition counseling,†Moore told The Associated Press in an interview, “and these people at home were suffering. I said, ‘We gotta go and see if we can get these people the same treatment the government gives al-Qaida.’ It seemed the only fair thing to do.â€
This is a valid point. However, MM loses credibility when he pulls publicity stunts. It makes me think that he cares too much for the moola, you know, that guap.
May 19th, 2007 at 4:19 pmBush could declare him an enemy combatant. Look how long it’s taken Padilla to get any kind of trial. Bush could put Moore out of circulation for the duration of Bush’s term of office.
In fact, Bush could do that to any one of us who protest His war.
May 19th, 2007 at 4:23 pmgo ahead put the liberals in gulags and torture them see if I care
May 19th, 2007 at 4:31 pmBush could declare him an enemy combatant. Look how long it’s taken Padilla to get any kind of trial. Bush could put Moore out of circulation for the duration of Bush’s term of office.
In fact, Bush could do that to any one of us who protest His war.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Entirely possible, of course. Moore has more power and prestige than Padilla, so he would have more help, and society would take notice. The rest of us would be totally screwed.
May 19th, 2007 at 4:37 pmHowever, MM loses credibility when he pulls publicity stunts. It makes me think that he cares too much for the moola, you know, that guap.
Comment by Mr. President
You didn’t happen to notice that the 9/11 workers were thanking him for his help? That the 9/11 workers are SOL as far as this country is concerned?
Moore’s credibility is intact, as far as I’m concerned.
May 19th, 2007 at 4:39 pm“go ahead put the liberals in gulags and torture them see if I care
Comment by Mr. President — May 19, 2007 @ 4:31 pm”
Now this is better, pseudo-Mr. P.
You’re comment is 1) irrelavent, 2) utterly jackass, and 3) free from emotion. Bravo!
Oh, and you also remembered to punctuate the “Mr.”
May 19th, 2007 at 4:52 pmAtta boy, Mr. Moore!
May 19th, 2007 at 4:52 pmMr. President you are a BottomBoy
May 19th, 2007 at 4:57 pmTo #9: I think that bottomboy is an appropriate appellation for a member of the rump Republican Party.
Moore states that the prisoners at Guantanamo are members of Al Qaeda. Very few of these prisoners have been proved to have any meaningful relationship to Al Qaeda. Most of them were turned in by disgruntled neighbors, seeking reward money.
As far as our disease care system goes, when you place the philosophical descendants of the Sheriff of Nottingham in charge of your “health care” system, you’re in big trouble. Our projected health care costs will be $2.6 trillion per year in the U.S. by the year 2010. This averages out to $26,000 per family of 3. This is clearly unsustainable.
May 19th, 2007 at 4:58 pmMoore’s credibility is intact, as far as I’m concerned.
Comment by Zooey — May 19, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
From my perspective (having not seen his work, mind you), Moore seems like an opportunist, giving the masses what they want so he can make a buck (this is exactly what the TV show “24″ does, only they have a different target audience).
Those who thanked him, were the stars of the movie, who received cheap (if not free) medical attention, and this leaves me suspicious of Moore’s intentions for the following reasons:
1) The stars of a movie almost always thank the director for the experience, this is part of the promotion process.
2) Cheap (if not free) health care is an extraordinary gift regardless of any involvement in 9/11 or poor health care (I myself, have no coverage and have to pay out-of-pocket for all medical needs), that said, I don’t know anyone in their right mind who would not be grateful to their benefactor.
If Moore’s intent was pure, he would not try to capitalize from his deeds.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:04 pmWhat? ‘We gotta go and see if we can get these people the same treatment the government gives al-Qaida’?
This sounds way too close to a right-wing talking point and gives ‘liberal cover’ for treating the people in Gitmo worse. For all his good points, Moore always loses me with his sloppiness. He’s worth ten cringes per film, and here’s the first.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:06 pmMichael Moore is the author of several best selling books, and several successfull movies. He’s most likely got enough money$$ to retire on a beach somewhere for the rest of his life. So I don’t believe he’s in it for the Money. He sees himself as an artist/activist …so he keeps writing and making films.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:18 pmI believe his Intent is to get Americans thinking and talking about Healthcare, and in this, he is succeeding. And when Americans focus on Healthcare, they can’t help but see a serious National Problem.
If Moore’s intent was pure, he would not try to capitalize from his deeds.
Comment by Mr. President
Is there something wrong with making a living?
Are you saying that if MM made his movies and then distributed them free of charge to the masses, then you’d respect him? Right.
Run on down to the video store and rent his movies, and his television series “The Awful Truth.” (I think that’s the name)
You’ll have more credibility that way.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:20 pmFrom my perspective (having not seen his work, mind you) — Mr Idiot
Yeah, it is real easy to criticize something you know absoloutly anything about, eh?
Sheesh.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:27 pmbah, absoloutly anything = absoloutly nothing
May 19th, 2007 at 5:29 pmAnother great Moore film that will rattle sleeping Americans.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:29 pmFor a few minutes and then the sheep will go back to sleep and the oligarchs in the Republican and Democratic parties can relax again and do their real job – taking care of Big Pharma, the AMA, the insurance companies and all their other campaign donors.
Comment by Zooey — May 19, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
No, that is not what I said.
I was simply responding to your comment:
“You didn’t happen to notice that the 9/11 workers were thanking him for his help? That the 9/11 workers are SOL as far as this country is concerned?
Moore’s credibility is intact, as far as I’m concerned.”
Comment by Zooey — May 19, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Of course there is nothing wrong with making a living. However, what of those country musicians who capitalized off 9/11?
Sure, they have the right to make a living, they most likely feel emotional anguish as well, however, when the mention of 9/11 or “Bush’s ruination of the country” becomes an advertising technique, he who employs said technique loses artistic and moral credibility in my book.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pmIf Moore’s intent was pure, he would not try to capitalize from his deeds.
Comment by Mr. President
Saint Michael of Flint. If he was a real documentary filmmaker, he’d be living in a yurt, begging for pennies.
And all the writers, pundits and reporters should be donating their work as well. Otherwise, why would they be credible?
Oy.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:40 pmbah, absoloutly anything = absoloutly nothing
Comment by Wayne — May 19, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
Wayne, if you read my post really, really, really carefully, you might find that I was criticizing the promotional and publicity stunts used by Moore. I never claimed to know more about the content of his “works” then what could be read in a review.
Frankly, I don’t give a shit if he is a good film-maker, that fact has nothing to do with anything I said.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:41 pmTo clarify someone´s confusion:
Michael Moore helping some US citizens to health care and put it in a movie = documental fact and moral duty.
President Bush saying Katrina victims will get their houses rebuilt = Lie and immoral propaganda.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:49 pmI really dont know what the economic status of Michael Moore has to do with anything. Every single work of his, has shown that he is against corporativism and government lies. That is natural for a millionaire (although convenient) and for a poor family.
Moore is one of the brightest people I have come across in the media.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:53 pmI was criticizing the promotional and publicity stunts used by Moore. Mr. President.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:56 pmAuthors write books so people will READ them. Filmmakers make films so people will WATCH them. Promotion and Publicity are as much a part of this, as are paper and film. Everyone does it. Landing on an Aircraft carrier in a borrowed flightsuit…for example.
Frankly, I don’t give a shit if he is a good film-maker, that fact has nothing to do with anything I said.
Comment by Mr. President
That you have never seen anything he has done has everything to do with the credibility of your critique.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:56 pmBut then credibility is an oxymoron when refferenced with the
contents of your posts.
My son is an environmental specialist. He was at ground zero right after the collapse. He tested the air and had his entire crew masked from the start. His samples indicated hazardous levels of asbestos and other pollutants at the site. He even handed out hazardous material filtration masks to as many of the responders as he could. At the time, the government (city and national) was claiming that the area was safe. His only regret was that he did not put his career on the line and order masks for each and every responder. He thought that the city would do that.
May 19th, 2007 at 5:57 pmMichael Moore helping some US citizens to health care and put it in a movie = documental fact and moral duty.
agreed.
But:
“So there we were last week, spiriting a duplicate master negative out of the country just so no one from the government would take it from us. (Seriously, I can’t believe I just typed those words! Did I mention that I’m an American, and this is America and NO ONE should ever have to say they had to do such a thing?)”
=
A publicity stunt described in rather rhetorical language (e.g. “spiriting a duplicate… out of the country”, “I can’t believe I just typed those words!”), which makes me wonder just what is MM’s angle.
Is he trying to improve the nation by exposing injustice?
Is he trying to make a buck by exploiting the current opinion of BushCrimeCo?
Or, did he genuinely think that the Treasury Dept. was out to get him, even though all he had to do was prove that he was making a documentary in Cuba?
I don’t know. His melodrama has put his character in question.
May 19th, 2007 at 6:09 pmSome what off topic..Navy Lawyer Lt.Cmdr Matthew Diaz sentenced to 6 months in jail.Virginia..for sending 550 names of Guantaanano detainees to a human right’s attorney…he is also being discharged..
This also remind’s me of the 2 border guard’s that were sent to prison recently for trying to arrest an illegal drug smuggler on the mexican border, the repeat offender got imunety and re offended, still on the loose and the border guard’s are still in prison last I heard..We got a lot of fixing to do once we get the realy guilty administration impeached and jailed, along with their enabeler’s..
The whistle blowers are being charged but the realy guilty are running free, like Foley, bush. cheney. rove, rice. wolfie and all….Sure a lot of fixin to do..Blessings
May 19th, 2007 at 6:12 pmI don’t know. His melodrama has put his character in question.
Comment by Mr. President
Yeah, after 20+ years of career.
May 19th, 2007 at 6:15 pmYeah, after 20+ years of career.
Comment by Juan C — May 19, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
Exactly, he knows what he is doing. The statement of his which I quoted above sounds like the paranoid rhetoric one would expect to hear from some of the more extreme individuals that post here, not from a sober activist who has a firm grip on reality. Now, I don’t think the man is stupid (as you say, 20+ years), I do think he cares about the injustices going on in the US, but, I also don’t like the over-the-top ploys.
Not because I don’t think he should advertise, but rather, because he should not have to pull some stupid shit like “spiriting” a copy to a safehouse in order to inform the public. He should have let the merit of his cause do the speaking for him, maybe tell us a little about the movie, etc.
But instead he tried to hype up his movie by saying that he feared the govt would confiscate the film (no doubt, this lead some to believe he had incriminating footage, but in reality all he had to do was show the Tres. Dept. that he was making a documentary).
May 19th, 2007 at 6:33 pmI’d put Michael Moore’s patriotism…
…up against Bushiva and L’il Dick’s…
…ANYDAY!
…Keep on being the voice the “people” need Michael…
…fascist right wingers HATE freedom, democracy and TRUTH…
May 19th, 2007 at 6:45 pmThis is the second time that I have posted this (I will keep a copy this time so I can repost it in full, next time.):
May 19th, 2007 at 7:14 pmMy son is a Environmental Pollution expert. He was at ground zero shortly after the collapse. His hazardous materials analysis revealed severe risks from polutants, including asbestos. He had his entire crew masked against hazardous pollutants and even handed out spare masks to responders. He thought that the city wound follow throught as well. He learned later that the government (both city and national) had declared the area safe to work in. His only regret is that he did not order masks for each of the people working on the site, he thought that the city would do so.
Mr. President, STOP. Your statements sound like sour grapes. If you haven’t seen any of his films, then don’t try to critique. If you don’t like the fact that he is making a few bucks (He has to pay for food, mortgage, insurance, electricity, etc) then OK, you don’t like it. But we all have to make money to make ends meet. Even hippies and liberals.
So please stop saying derogatory remarks just for the sake of making derogatory remarks. You’re making your credibility go further down the tubes. And I’m one person who tries to see your point of view.
May 19th, 2007 at 7:30 pmMr. President, I am what is called middle of the road. I am registered as “No Party” but would go Libertarian if I had to. I do not agree with the liberal positions on Gun control, eminint domain, big government and other items. But I agree with them on other things, and ESPECIALLY the corruption of the current Administration.
What I’m trying to say is that you will always come on and say anything as long as it’s taking the side against the liberal mainstream. You do not look at a case by it’s merits. You just repeatedly sound off with the party line. It’s like you have a direct connection to Karl Rove.
Very few people are completely for or against a party’s points. Usually there are some differences between just about every person in this country. I take some liberal and some conservative points and I will discuss those points. It’s hard to take your view points seriously when you just say the advocate point without even looking at the situation. Like you would back Charles Manson if he were a Republican. So please think for yourself and say what YOU think, not what the Republican Party thinks.
May 19th, 2007 at 7:45 pmAfter about two hours, the posts made it through. ALL AT ONCE!
May 19th, 2007 at 8:02 pmComment by dying middle class worker — May 19, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
I thank you for trying to see my point.
But as your comments, you are off base, and the confusion is my fault. When I said this:
“This is a valid point. However, MM loses credibility when he pulls publicity stunts. It makes me think that he cares too much for the moola, you know, that guap.”
Comment by Mr. President — May 19, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
The publicity stunt I was referring to was the “spiriting away” of a copy of the film under a false pretense.
*NOT*
the screening of his movie, an act which is to be expected and is appropriate. I fully support legitimate promotion of a film, and I am not bothered in any way by MM’s doing so if he chooses.
As for my “direct connection to Rove”:
1) I’m not involved in politics in any way, shape, or form. I get my news from Stewert and Colbert. The only things Rove has said that I know of are: “I’m M.C. Rove” and “Don’t touch me”.
2) Regarding the issue pertinent to my *intended* point, I don’t think the govt really gives a shit, all they were doing was following up on his film. Moore had to apply for a liscense to film in Cuba with the stipulation that the film would be a documentary or journalistic in nature, all the govt did was ask for some sort of confirmation. If they saw that indeed the movie was a documentary, cool, if Moore had lied on the application and filmed a prequel to Scarface, then he would be in violation of the stipulations of his liscense.
By the way, Moore most certainly knew this and when he received notice that the Treasury Dept. wanted to confirm the film was a documentary, it should not have suprised him at all. Surely he didn’t think the govt was just going to take his word for it.
Finally, I asure you, I always say what *I* think.
May 19th, 2007 at 8:20 pmIt’s worth saying three times, WaltTheMan.
Look how we’ve been nickled and dimed literally to death by bu$hCo, from denying the 9-11 air was hazardous – for PR purposes to get the money boyz (the have-mores!) on Wall back in action ASAP and to cheap out on the victims – to whining about an extra $6 per month for their beloved troops.
Half a trillion and counting on a pointless, illegal invasion and occupation. Just think. Drinky coulda been Saint frikkin Drinky if half that dough had gone for a health care system.
So, good for MM, sticking it in their faces with vicious satire, and going to Gitmo and twisting them on their bullshit. We can’t seem to get rid of TortureCo, so what the hell else is there to do but mercilessly heap on derision and scorn? We rip and shred on the blogs and MM gets his film crew on the plane. Good on him, he takes chances.
May 19th, 2007 at 8:40 pm#51 – OleHippieChick,
May 19th, 2007 at 8:50 pmAnd now they are gone. Should I change my handle to Jake? Valient Venus? Mr. President? Dave?
And magically, they reappear.
May 19th, 2007 at 8:51 pmMy comment count shows 53, but my last comment was 56. Does anyone else notice this disparity?
May 19th, 2007 at 8:56 pmAnd magically, they reappear.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Everything has a scientific explanation, Walt. :)
May 19th, 2007 at 9:09 pmMy comment count shows 53, but my last comment was 56. Does anyone else notice this disparity?
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 19, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Yeah, something screwy is going on. You had an important post that I would have thought would be well received. Try rephrasing some of your words, in another thread my post were taken down when I used the word “b*nal” which is not offensive or sexually explicit. I’m guessing there is a quirk in the system that doesn’t like one of the words you used.
* = a
May 19th, 2007 at 9:12 pmJuan,
You’re gonna get smacked on the head. :D
May 19th, 2007 at 9:15 pmJuan,
May 19th, 2007 at 9:15 pmI do not think that it is scientific, it seems that TP is censoring the posts.
Mr. Incident, sir?
May 19th, 2007 at 9:31 pmKarl has just informed me that your computer mistakenly got networked into the vote tallying system he has been working on, which might explain why bloggers on sites you have been accessing are having their posts disappear. Sir.
I do not think that it is scientific, it seems that TP is censoring the posts.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Yeah, try writing anything about a certain group of Israeli extremists, who’s name happens to start with the letter “Z”, and just see what happens.
Funny… but Wikipedia has no problem mentioning the affiliation of certain individuals such as Paul Wolfowitz, to this group ,but TP has a fit when ever I type it.
May 19th, 2007 at 9:38 pmColonoscopies, huh? They couldn’t possibly be doing this to screen for early signs of colo-rectal cancer? And without using sedation (the funds for this have probably been cut), this could also be an effective interrogation tool. Perhaps if this was used on Gonzo, it might help to refresh his memory–I’m sure he’d have to agree.
May 19th, 2007 at 10:41 pmThis is the fourth time that I have posted this (I have keep a copy so I can repost it in full, again.):
May 19th, 2007 at 10:53 pmMy son is a Environmental Pollution expert. He was at ground zero shortly after the collapse. His hazardous materials analysis revealed severe risks from polutants, including asbestos. He had his entire crew masked against hazardous pollutants and even handed out spare masks to responders. He thought that the city wound follow throught as well. He learned later that the government (both city and national) had declared the area safe to work in. His only regret is that he did not order masks for each of the people working on the site, he thought that the city would do so.
‘have keep’ s/b ‘kept’ in my last post (If it survives.).
May 19th, 2007 at 11:01 pmIt did not survive. not a single swear word or controversal statement in it. So much for Think Progress.
May 19th, 2007 at 11:17 pmIt’s back! Thought police attack!
May 19th, 2007 at 11:21 pmThey did!
May 19th, 2007 at 11:24 pmAnd it is gone again.
May 19th, 2007 at 11:32 pmbut it is back when I repost.
May 19th, 2007 at 11:33 pmWell, this uy didn’t get much in the way of decent medical care at GITMO.
May 19th, 2007 at 11:35 pmMy last post disappeared. Could I have hit a nerve?
May 19th, 2007 at 11:58 pmWalt’s son works for an env!ronmenta1 group, who helped with the c1ean-up at grownd o. He realized that there was 6ad stuff in the a!r, so he wore a s@fty mask and told others to do the same. He thought that all workers would be warn3d 0f th3 d@ng3r, however, they were not.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:04 am#70 – Thanks Homer,
May 20th, 2007 at 12:27 amActually, my son works for a reviled power company. He works in their environmental department, responsible for correcting the sins of the prior 100 years. When the WTC was downed, he was called in to analyze and remove pollutants that were present due to the construction practices that dated back to the time that the WTC was erected. He had previously been involved in the removal of pollutants in other areas. His primary concern at the site was PCBs. He found that they were the least of the problem and responded, first for his crew and secondly, as a matter of compassion to the responders.
Comment by JPV — May 19, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
Zionists?
May 20th, 2007 at 2:19 amMM is out there fighting for Americans to give them a health care , he dont need money he dont need fame he just simply cares for you all
What would things be like without Him ?????? ask yourselfs that before you slag him off
May 20th, 2007 at 5:45 amTime Magazine has a review of Sicko that sheds needed light on Moore’s character. It seems that a blogger who hated Moore, and wrote hostile polemics against him and his work, informed his readership that he would have to close his site in order to pay for his sick wife’s mounting medical expenses.
I don’t know how Moore found out about this guy, but he then sent him (anonymously at the time) $12,000 to help out. To a guy who hates him. Sounds less like the work of the Antichrist than that of another Christ, wouldn’t you say, trolls?
Here’s the link:
Read it for yourselves, and I’ll see all you wingnuts when you return to question his motives because it was included in the film.
May 20th, 2007 at 10:45 amJPV @ 60
Zoastrians?
May 20th, 2007 at 11:06 amSalon has more details on the $12,000 given to the proprietor of an anti-Moore site called “Moorewatch.”
May 20th, 2007 at 11:16 amMichael Moore has been very effective at stirring up the electorate. Judging by the results, I wonder whose side he’s really on. I’m not sure that “Bowling for Columbine” had much, if any effect on gun control, nor was his 911 film successful in getting Bush defeated in ‘04. The best thing the GOP could do in regards to Michael Moore is let him speak. Every time he opens his mouth, another apathetic conservative gets energized.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:36 amYeah, try writing anything about a certain group of Israeli extremists, who’s name happens to start with the letter “Zâ€, and just see what happens.
Comment by JPV — May 19, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
You were right. I tested your theory last night. My post never showed up.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:51 amOk Foxnews posted an article about it, doesn’t mean that it represents the whole newscasters’s opinion on the movie. For all we know this could have been Colmes who wrote the article. I guess Michael Moore has to figure out new ways to promote his film, and he’s trying to get everyone to think that since the whole fox news network likes his movie than everyone else should see it. Michael Moore is a fat dumbass but you guys that see his movie are even more dumbasses cause he knows he’s making $$$ of you people just for his stupid opinions.
June 20th, 2007 at 12:47 pm