Specter: Gonzales Will Likely Resign Before No Confidence Vote
Specter: Gonzales Will Likely Resign Before No Confidence Vote
Last week, Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) called on the Senate to hold a no-confidence vote on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
The White House and its conservative allies quickly derided the vote, calling it “nothing more than a meaningless political act.” This morning on Fox News Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called it a “gotcha game.”
But on CBS’s Face the Nation, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) underlined the importance and seriousness of the vote, calling it a “rare” and “very forceful, historical statement.” He predicted that “before the vote is taken that Attorney General Gonzales may step down.” Watch it:
At least six Senate Republicans have now called on Gonzales to resign. Specter said he believes support for the no confidence vote is “very substantial,” and that if Gonzales “sees that coming, that he would prefer to avoid that kind of an historical black mark.”
Transcript:
SCHIEFFER: Do you, in fact, think Republicans, a sizable number, will join with Democrats on that? And what do you think the impact is going to be on the Attorney General?
SPECTER: Well, I think so. You already have six Republicans calling for his resignation. I have a sense, Bob, that before the vote is taken that Attorney General Gonzales may step down.
SCHIEFFER: Really?
SPECTER: Well, it is a very forceful, historical statement. Votes of no confidence are very rare. More than a century ago one was leveled against a sitting president. I think historically that is something which Attorney General Gonzales would like to avoid. The most important thing, though, is the inability of the department now to function. I was about to say that U.S. Attorneys met in San Antonio this past week and there was a lot of criticism and a lot of dissension. That department is very, very important, functioning for the welfare of our country. [...]
SCHIEFFER: What leads you, senator, to the conclusion that he will probably step down before such a vote is taken?
SPECTER: Because of the likelihood, a very substantial vote of no confidence. I think that if and when he sees that coming, that he would prefer to avoid that kind of an historical black mark.
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Don't effing bet on it.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:10 am3422 - 7 U.S. soldiers die in Iraq attacks
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May 20th, 2007 at 11:11 amPS. More likely Specter will have his office, home and car bugged.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:11 amYeah right. Gonzales won't resign. Bush loves him.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:12 amIt would sound out the Senate on possible impeachment of the AG.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:15 amWe'll see.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:17 amEvery day Gonzalez is in office at this point is a political gift to the Democrats.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:18 amImpeach Gonzales!!
May 20th, 2007 at 11:21 amSpecter is one of the junta's greatest enablers. He goes on these shows and talks tough but when he gets in the senate he toes the party line. For example, there is no way that the provision to appoint US Attorneys without senate confirmation got into the PATRIOT ACT without his knowing about it.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:21 amFor the latest GonzoGate news, document dumps, email archives, hearing transcripts and other essential materials in the firings of U.S. attorneys, see:
May 20th, 2007 at 11:22 am"The U.S. Attorney Scandal Resource Center."
'Alberto the Torturer' worried about black marks hehehehheheee
May 20th, 2007 at 11:23 amGonzales will never resign. W will never ask for his resignation. With a Democratic Senate W would have to nominate someone who will follow the rule of law. This is something W does not want. Congress needs to start impeachment proceedings. The Senate right now needs 66 votes to find Gonzales guilty. I don't think they have the votes yet, but the impeachment may convince a few of the non-believers.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:23 amif gonzo was so friggin' concerned about avoiding a "historical black mark," he would not have been such a willing toady to the white house... no matter what happens, he is going to have to live with the permanent stains of leading his country down an unconstitutional and illegal path in clear violation of his oath of office... he screwed himself a very long time ago, probably starting with his first meeting with george bush...
And, yes, I DO take it personally
May 20th, 2007 at 11:26 amA vote of no confidence is the "black mark" he wants to aviod ?
Supporting the use of torture though, looks just peachy on a Republican resume.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:26 amSomehow, "black mark" isn't what I think of in reference to Gonzo. Something more along the lines of "brown streak" (and, no, that isn't a reference to ethnicity).
He's not leaving, though. Where else can he have a job where his initials match the title?
No, no, I'm not going there.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:31 amThirteen state Democratic parties have now passed resolutions demanding impeachment, nine of them since Nancy Pelosi ordered the Democratic Party away from impeachment.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:33 amWhat this fool talk'n about Willis...."avoid that kind of an historical black mark."? This whole presidency has been a historical...here let me be nice...ahhhh.... fu@king historical disaster. If these a$$holes would pull their heads out of their a$$es long enough to see that this slow motion train wreck that causes most americans to clench and bear it on a daily basis while trying not to puke watching this a$$bag on TV say something that is so fu@king obvious that a 5 year old would have given this sh!t stain a wipe long ago....
Ok. I'm going to go get some coffee now.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:34 amPink Floyd Wants Bush Impeached
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/22705
"(It must be noted that the music in the first and second halves of the show were supplemented with several pointed political statements, including the slogan "Impeach Bush Now!" and "Good Riddance" in reference to departed British Prime Minister Tony Blair on the pink hide of the giant pink balloon that floated through the stage. It's acknowledged that Waters has very strong political beliefs, although one wonders what the reaction was of fans who share his musical tastes but not his political ones.)"
May 20th, 2007 at 11:34 amif he resigns, can he then be charged with all the crimes for which is he so obviously guilty? i mean, maybe the little rat won't resign because he knows he might be looking at a long stretch in the slammer.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:34 amWho Are the Idiots Who Voted to Confirm Gonzales?
Every Republican plus the usual "suspects" (DINO's) voted to confirm the Torturer General in what is believed the closest confirmation vote of a pResidential appointee in modern history...
Alexander (R-TN)
May 20th, 2007 at 11:35 amAllard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Salazar (D-CO)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
MA Dems Call on Congressional Reps for Bush-Cheney Impeachment, Troop Redeployment and Peace for Iraqi Nation
May 20th, 2007 at 11:37 amSpecter talks the talk, but when it comes time for the no confidence vote, trust the man to walk away and vote for the Attorney General. He tows the Bush line every time.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:38 amSPECTER is wrong again. He incorrectly assumes Gonzo places Nation before idealogy or welfare of the nation before his own smarmy skin.
Gonzo & GOP = Without conscience, scruples, or ethics.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:39 amI don't expect Gonzo to resign. He's part of a large group, Punks 4 Bush, that now have about 29% of the US as members. I hear this group was started by GOPers in prison -- another ever increasing number -- hence the "punk" reference.
Come on, laugh, it's Sunday, and we have the worst adminstration in history driving this nation into the ground.
Cheers,
May 20th, 2007 at 11:39 amScrew Bush.
I think he'll hold out til the holiday to allow Bush to make a recess appointment of Orrin Hatch. I am with the posters who don't think AG gives a flying fig about "black marks" on his historical record. Caring about how history remembers him assumes he has the ability to feel shame. We have ample evidence that it is, in fact, shamelessness that describes this entire administration.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:45 am19. Comment by english teacher — You hit the nail on the head..ding..ding..ding. Yes. If torture-boy was to resign, or loose his job he would no longer enjoy Executive Branch priviladges. K'K'k'arl Rove (always hard to spit that name out), would no longer be able to protect his (torture-boy) smarmy-a$$.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:46 amI am troubled by the consistent 29-33% approval ratings Bush gets. If he truly has the approval of nearly one in 3 people, why can't I find even one person in my whole diverse sphere of acquaintances who owns up to supporting him? Who are these people? Are there hidden stores of Bush loyalists living in secret (presumably well-armed) compounds somewhere in the wilds of Texas? 10% approval I could see, but nearly 30%? Any chance Diebold has access to polling software?
May 20th, 2007 at 11:51 amTry and understand McCain, instead of putting him down
Romney would be better then Clinton
Olliver North should run for president
Libby is innocent
Liberals are a bunch of communist-islamo-fascists
Someday you will all understand
Sign up to be a Republican today
U'all are weak
Cindy Sheehan is a terrorist
Karl Rove for vice-president
TLC
May 20th, 2007 at 11:52 amWhere else can he (Gonzo) have a job where his initials match the title?
Oh, what the heck . . . I'll go there!
- A$$ Grabber (no -- that's just his hobby)
- Assistant Gopher (oh, that is his current job title)
- Asphalt-Grinder (he's not qualified)
May 20th, 2007 at 11:57 amone question: does, Gonzalez have kids in college?
May 20th, 2007 at 11:59 am"Thirteen state Democratic parties have now passed resolutions demanding impeachment, nine of them since Nancy Pelosi ordered the Democratic Party away from impeachment.
Comment by Tobey Tall — May 20, 2007 @ 11:33 am"
Do you have a link? I'd love to email that around to people I know. Most people are angry right now, and if they see that Impeachment is an option, they may start encouraging it.
Thanks
May 20th, 2007 at 12:01 pmone question: does, Gonzalez have kids in college?
If so, they are probably "legacy admissions" to Liberty College. Personally, I can't believe that Gonzo has the smarts to get an undergrad degree; nor do I think that his sperm count is high enough or potent enough to produce anything more intelligent than a vegatable.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:03 pmGonzalez was confirmed quickly...
May 20th, 2007 at 12:08 pmSenater Spector backed Gonzalez and voted for him,just like he always does, later Specter comes on tv...shows displeasure with Gonzalez,then goes to vote for the guy whom he trashed on television.
Spector mastered the art of Senate hearings and speaking to the cameras..but when it comes to the final vote..he just don't want to stick his neck...he just follows...
"10% approval I could see, but nearly 30%? Any chance Diebold has access to polling software? Comment by Michele Manion — May 20, 2007 @ 11:51 am"
Michele, I agree with your suspicions. I don't know of anyone who is one of the 30%, either. And I live in a rural part of the country, where the Bush strength is supposed to be strong. It's long been surmised by a few bloggers, but with no actual evidence, that there is a separate polling structure within the White House that has different figures on Bush's approval rating, and that it's actually in the mid to low-20s. The mainstream polling data is skewed toward MSM happy talk that discourages instability in the viewing population. Perhaps from the Rove/Luntz P.O.V., a higher than accurate approval rating in the MSM creates enough cognitive dissonance to discourage a more forceful grassroots effort to remove these murderers from office.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:10 pm"I am troubled by the consistent 29-33% approval ratings Bush gets. If he truly has the approval of nearly one in 3 people, why can’t I find even one person in my whole diverse sphere of acquaintances who owns up to supporting him? Who are these people? Comment by Michele Manion — May 20, 2007 @ 11:51 am"
I can help you with this. And I'm not proud of the fact.
I live in a conservative suburb of Atlanta where there are still people who have not removed the W stickers from their gas-guzzlers. My other relatives (who mostly live in New Jersey) are mostly right of center.
It's about 3 issues the best I can tell:
1. Bush has them convinced that terrorists are going to kill them if he doesn't butcher Iraq. Though, many of tehm no longer like what's happening to our troops, they cannot connect the dots. Bush represents the fight on people who want to kill them (yep, most of them are racist and it is a racial issue).
2. Religion. They see Bush's public prayer as virtuous.
3. They hate liberals because they honestly think we are communists in the sense of the USSR that put everyone into a state of poverty and depression. So, any Republican is preferable to any liberal to them.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:10 pmun
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/
May 20th, 2007 at 12:10 pm#35.
That's what I was afraid of. There ARE hidden stores Bush loyalists out there! I'm in Arizona and see a few Bush-Cheney 04 bumper stickers out here, too. I'm always tempted to go up to the car owner, put my hand their shoulder and say, "poor thing. You must be so embarrassed."
May 20th, 2007 at 12:15 pmGonzo won't quit. Bush won't fire him. Why? Because Gonzo is safer when he's inside the circle. He knows way too much. He knows everything, and he'll endanger his own life by leaving office. If he goes, he'll not only be called to testify under oath, and be more vulnerable to perjury charges and worse, but he'll be vulnerable to an array of "unfortunate occurrences", such as life-threatening illnesses, a downward-spiraling depression that can lead to a quick suicide, or a completely unpredictable airplane crash.
So, both Gonzo and Bush will be in office until the bitter end, IMO. And when their time is up, they'll be laughing at all of us because we never did send them to the guillotine. They'll get away with all of it, from the election fraud of 2000, to 9/11 and onward.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:16 pm"http://www.smirkingchimp.com/
Comment by RUCerious — May 20, 2007 @ 12:10 pm"
Gracias!
How you feeling?
May 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pm"That’s what I was afraid of. There ARE hidden stores Bush loyalists out there!"
Think of all the middle states too... I'm guessing that outside the bible belt, they harbor the others...
"I’m always tempted to go up to the car owner, put my hand their shoulder and say, “poor thing. You must be so embarrassed.â€
Comment by Michele Manion — May 20, 2007 @ 12:15 pm"
LOL... I dare you ; )
May 20th, 2007 at 12:22 pmI would like to see the list of enabler Democrats who hospitably voted for Alberto Gonzalez confirmation as Attorney General. Perhaps they are the same Democratic Senators who hospitably accorded the Iraqui lobbyists their incredible recent success for another trillion dollars of war funding when they voted against Senator Feingold's funding measure which was linked to a timetable for withdrawal? Or was this a more recent edition of Democrats whose capaphonously blathered unendingly against the war?
May 20th, 2007 at 12:22 pmAmateur strategists will wonder about the Burlington Vermont byline
May 20th, 2007 at 12:26 pmunder Arlon Specters picture. Just what are he and Pat Leahy up to today?
Isn't Allen (Assen) Specter the father of Phil??? Butofcourse he is!
May 20th, 2007 at 12:26 pmAssen Specter, that promontory of ethical Grandeur, hath spoken.
One step further. Not only does this little texas turd stay but he has a deep,pathological enjoyment of 'black marks',professed cruelty and sadomasochism. People lose site of the profile because their perspective is so normal. They want to assume that they are sitting in judgement on ordinary political hacks gone astray. TT is not this. He is at the very best a serial sociopath. This profile means he enjoys the havoc he wreaks and gets a particular rush of adrenaline from it. It perfectly reflects his superior who is himself addicted to war,carnage,death and destruction. W. is the first real psychopath ever to ensconce himself in the Oval Office. Do not think Tony Soprano or the Godfather. Think instead TEd Bundy. Killers,liars and tricksters who are compelled to kill and lie by the sheer pleasure they derive from it.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:28 pmGonzolas is the firewall to Bush. Republicans continue to think that somehow this administration has an interest in doing the right thing - they are the last to understand that the Bush regime is basicly criminal.
Bush cannot allow Gonzolas to resign because he controls the gateway to justice. If he goes, congress gets to judge who replaces him and the next guy is not going to be allowed to protect Bush from the reach of the law as Gonzolas does.
Bush and his team have committed hundreds of crimes and Gonzolas is the only thing standing in the way of anybody getting the evidence.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:28 pm"Your doin a heckuva job Gonzo" is just a pawn...Chimpy and Shooter love to have somebody on the point deflecting all the attention. The media and voting public fall for this every time. The real question is: Why do the repugs hate America so much they are willing to destroy it? I keep coming back to the simple answer: OIL. But that still doesn't answer the question of why all these republican senators and representatives put politics above the good of our great country??? Every one of them would go on Faux Noise no doubt and call themselves patriots...I'm afraid we're screwed here.
I doubt blog entries aren't going to get it folks...we need to do more before it's too late. I wish I had the answers, but I don't ...the only thing I know for sure is: I love my country and want it back.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:41 pmSpecter is wrong. These people are not like regular people. They have no shame, they have no conscience, no regard for law, no regard for congress, no regard for the American people, and no regard for the Constitution. Gonales will stay as long as Bush wants him to. He is the gatekeeper for the rest of the administration. As long as he can keep congress from Rove, Bush and Cheney, Gonzo will remain exactly where he is.
What Specter and the other republicans don't understand, can't understand, is that they don't mean anything more to this administration than the democrats. They are a non entity as far as this criminal administration is concerned.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:42 pmunbelievable the link is here on this page
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=taxonomy/term/17
“Thirteen state Democratic parties have now passed resolutions demanding impeachment, nine of them since Nancy Pelosi ordered the Democratic Party away from impeachment.
also underneath is
Pink Floyd Wants Bush Impeached
I have seen Pink Floyd five time .... they are the ultimate in visual effects
May 20th, 2007 at 12:44 pmAre there hidden stores of Bush loyalists living in secret (presumably well-armed) compounds somewhere in the wilds of Texas? 10% approval I could see, but nearly 30%? Any chance Diebold has access to polling software?
Comment by Michele Manion — May 20, 2007 @ 11:51 am
I've thought the same thing. Anybody here ever been "polled" about Bush? I haven't.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:52 pmSpecter might be right for the wrong reason. It isn't what Gonzales wants to avoid that matters, it's what Bush wants and nothing else.
Gonzales has never been anything but an absolute toady for Bush. He owes his entire career to the man. His only redeeming quality is loyalty, which happens to be the one virtue Bush admires to the exclusion of all others. So why would anyone assume, at this point, that Gonzales will do what's best for Gonzales?
If Bush can let him go while saving face, he will. If he can't, Gonzo wil stay on the job. The decision will probably be made by Karl Rove, because Bush isn't smart enough to know one way or the other.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:53 pmLOL… I dare you ; )
Comment by unbelievable — May 20, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
We need "I'm an Idiot" magnets, like yellow ribbons, to slap over Bush bumper stickers.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:04 pmWe need “I’m an Idiot†magnets, like yellow ribbons, to slap over Bush bumper stickers.
More likely -- ribbons that say "I Support the Idiots"
lol
May 20th, 2007 at 1:12 pmSpecter is wrong. These people are not like regular people
Comment by foolme1ns
Specter is just like them. He just blabbers on tv to get himself reelected. He could care less about the country or black marks or justice. Just need to remember that he was on the Warren Commission on JFK's assasination. He's got his own black mark he doesn't worry about.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:12 pmShane,
I could use a bunch of those magnets here. Oy.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:12 pm#39 un
May 20th, 2007 at 1:16 pmGood enough to go back to work tomorrow
[:-}
How about magnets that say, I voted for the morons, please smash my car.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:27 pmIt is time to remove the Bush Crime Family and all the warmongers who make excuses for their failed, immoral, and illegal war. It is time for Dubya and Cheney to be shipped to the Hague to answer questions of why they invaded Iraq, unilaterally.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:33 pmHow about magnets that say, I voted for the morons, please smash my car.
Comment by RUCerious — May 20, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Or "Traitors On Board"?
May 20th, 2007 at 1:35 pmGonzalez is the creature of bushco. His willingness to please his master is beyond pathetic and most likely criminal in the extreme. His loyalty to bush is beyond the pale and makes me wonder if gonzales has feelings for his best buddy that border on the sexual. For the life of me, I can't understand his wilingness to break the laws of our land just to impress a wimp,coward and serial liar. By the way, have you noticed the look on Mrs. bush's face in the last year or so? Man if my wife was shooting daggers like his, I'd have other things to worry about besides a possible impeachement and divorce attorney comes to mind.Maybe her looks are caused by the change but check her out whenever she's around the decider and not doing some touchy feely interview.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:42 pmWe can only hope. But as long as Bush and Gonzales continue to be f**k buddies, there is little of it.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:43 pmIt's all about a waiting game w/ Gonzo. Why? What's so important about Friday? It's not the Memorial Day holiday...it's the fact that Congress goes on recess. Yup, Congress goes on recess.
If Gonzo can survive until this coming Friday, Bush has a free "recess appointment" pass coming up to replace him.
Yep, recess appointment..we've heard about that before, including just a month or so ago w/ a Fox in the Belgian henhouse.
Meaning no confirmation needed on AG replacement. No hearings...just another stonewalling of the American people with an incompetent crony.
Mark my words...
May 20th, 2007 at 1:46 pm#61. I think you are right on target. There will be a recess appointment--mostly likely the Hatchman from Utah--when Congress goes on vacation. "Recess appointments, the last refuge of cowards (or ENORMOUSLY unpopular presidents)."
May 20th, 2007 at 1:54 pmAbout the only time Specter shows any backbone is when not a plug nickel of political capital is at risk. His views on any matter of import lack basic credibility; his prognostications? As worthless as the bag of steaming turds from whence they emanate.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:55 pm#62...
I disagree on the Hatchman. Repugs cannot afford a potential loss of a Senate seat at this time. While the Utah governor may be Repug, he has been a bit of a "hit out" at Bush on occasion. It's possible that the "will of the people" angle will stick in the craw of the Utah governor - and he'll appoint a Democrat as a result of enough being stuck in his throat re: Repug behavior/ oversight/ control/ whatever you want to call it.
Also, there will no absolutely no reason why Congress should all of a sudden be mollified if "one of theirs" gets the AG job...especially if it's thru a Bushwhacked back door appointment. Congress won't sit still quietly regardless of who gets the job via a recess appointment, but if it's a Congress-person, oh boy! I see subpoena, after subpoena, after subpoena being issued post-haste. Hatch can't bar the door, since he really has no idea what's behind door #1 (bad), door #2 (worse), door #3 (worst) or door #4 (catastrophe leading directly to impeachment) - which should he defend?
Maybe I'm wrong, and Bush will get Hatchman in...but boy, I can't wait til the "u-know-what" hits the fan of Congressional offices!!! Bush, of course, is just dumb enough to do it.
JMO
May 20th, 2007 at 2:23 pmBecause Specter is a normal human being, it is understandable that he would expect this. Even a career as a former prosecutor does not prepare one to be able to understand the mendacious cretins which are now in charge of our government.
jon
May 20th, 2007 at 4:24 pmConnecting the dots: from human behaviors to ecosystem decline
http://StudentsForTheEarth.org
I don't think I will hold my breath waiting on a resignation.
May 20th, 2007 at 4:53 pmMichele Manion:
President Bill Clinton made 169 recess appointments. And, I doubt Hatch would need a recess appointment.
May 20th, 2007 at 4:57 pmDid anyone watch Tim Russert?
May 20th, 2007 at 5:15 pmTotally agree with the Hatch plan. He would be a great attorney general. We have a recess coming in a couple of weeks-perfect time to pull the trigger.
We don't lose a Senate seat, get real its Utah.
Specter is the least grateful man in an ungrateful town.
May 20th, 2007 at 5:50 pmwhen i see someone with a bushchaney sticker on their cars I go up to them and say: " You should be ashamed of yourselves for supporting the worst president in american history. He must be hanged."
May 20th, 2007 at 7:00 pmLet's leave out all the fantasies and the pleasure of name-calling for a minute, and just think this through. At this point Gonzalez is the only thing preventing Bush's secrets & crimes from being spilled to the media. Gonzalez has the dirt on Bush, and Bush made sure Gonzalez hands were dirty to cover his ass. That's why Bush picked such an Uncle Tom; regardless of his complete incompetence, he's a "buddy" who's been promised money/security to stonewall to the end. Any effort to impeach requires proof that would be denied by Gonzalez. Once Gonzalez is gone, a different AG is unlikely to be such a flunky for Bush, nor would he have his hands filthy with Bush's crimes, and the White House would come tumbling down. Net result: Gonzalez stays!
I'll crap in my pants if something as trivial as this vote does a damned thing. It's the right thing for the Dems to do (to keep pressure on) but the result will only be political. Thanks for the assistance in the P.R. war from moderate Spector, but I think Arlen is a trifle naive.
May 20th, 2007 at 8:05 pmMaybe, just maybe there is a voice of reason out there that can convince Gonzales to be "nudged" out to a new post!
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/05/get-ready-for-great-compromise-on.html#links
May 20th, 2007 at 9:02 pm#67.
I stand corrected. Maybe I should have been more specific and said "unbelievably onerous and highly offensive recess appointments--the last refuge of cowards and ENORMOUSLY unpopular presidents."
#62.
Sincerely doubt that appointing Hatch would jeopardize a Republican seat in the Senate. He is from Utah, after all. From that standpoint, the admin has nothing to lose from a recess appointment and Hatch has been angling for the spot. It's a win-win from that perspective.
#69.
Really? Hatch a great AG? Hmmm. Read much?
May 20th, 2007 at 11:15 pm#69 Comment by The Real Sporer — May 20, 2007 @ 5:50 pmI'm confused.
Please explain.
Totally agree with the Hatch plan. He would be a great attorney general.
Why do you believe this?
We have a recess coming in a couple of weeks-perfect time to pull the trigger.
Who is pulling the trigger and who is the gun pointed at?
We don’t lose a Senate seat, get real its Utah.
Who is "we" that you mention?
Specter is the least grateful man in an ungrateful town.
What do you mean here? I'm really confused.
May 21st, 2007 at 1:32 amGonzo will not go down without a fight. He'll bring the GOP down with him.
May 21st, 2007 at 10:28 am"It would sound out the Senate on possible impeachment of the AG."
Comment by David -- May 20, 2007 @ 11:15 am
It would also put the Republican'ts on the spot -- and election is coming -- Do you support Gonzales? -- an election is coming -- Or do you not support Gonzales? -- an election is coming.
"Every day Gonzalez is in office at this point is a political gift to the Democrats."
Comment by ohdave — May 20, 2007 @ 11:18 am
Yep. Which is why I have mixed feelings that clash: Should he stay, or should he go?
As long as he's there, he keeps the issues alive and front-and-center, and continues to inflict damage on Bush, et al.
And is an obstruction of justice between Bush, et al., and the rule of law.
May 21st, 2007 at 10:56 amAs easily as Wolfowitz?
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