Former governor Mike Huckabee:
By on May 21st, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Former governor Mike Huckabee:
“I do not believe in teaching about sex or contraception in public schools.”
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Why do Republicans, in matters of education and public policy almost always prefer ignorance to information?
May 21st, 2007 at 1:55 pmThat will no doubt make the next list of “GOP Quotes of the Week.”
May 21st, 2007 at 1:57 pmFile this under the no $hit, Sherlock category.
Why would you teach anything that wasn’t in the 4 corners of the Holy Bible?
May 21st, 2007 at 1:57 pmFormer governor Mike Huckabee:“I do not believe in teaching about sex or contraception in public schools
Good. Then don’t teach what you obviously know nothing about!
May 21st, 2007 at 1:57 pmGood plan. Don’t teach about contraception or sex education and then oppose any abortions. Quid pro screwed.
May 21st, 2007 at 1:58 pmOf course he doesn’t. That would interfere with his goal of creating a permanent underclass of indebted, uneducated wage slaves.
May 21st, 2007 at 1:59 pmAnyone have the stats on the teenage pregnancy rate in Arkansas?
May 21st, 2007 at 1:59 pmGood. It’s not up to you.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:00 pmI hope Mike’s daughter or grand daughters get pregnant and then ask daddy/grandpa what to do next.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:01 pmSend your kids to my house, I’ll teach them all about sex!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:01 pm#7,
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf
Go to page 12.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:03 pmThis is where religious zealotry gets us everytime. Oh well, more abortions for everyone I guess!!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:04 pmIf I remember correctly, Huckabee also does not “believe” in evolution either. It is not a coincidence that absolute ignorance in one subject that requires critical thinking and drawing conclusions based upon evidence often leads to ignorance in other subjects that require similar abilities.
Hey governor, you ever wonder why your state of Arkansas is often ranked near the bottom in the educational achievement level of its citizens?
I often wonder if there are good statistics relating those states who try and teach “abstinence-only” to what their out-of-wedlock birth rates are?
May 21st, 2007 at 2:07 pmWhat do you expect, parents to teach them these things! Oh, that’s right. Libs don’t know about contraception or personal hygiene. That’s why the breed in slums like rats. Libs don’t go to school, they go to prison.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:07 pmGood plan. Don’t teach about contraception or sex education and then oppose any abortions. Quid pro screwed.
Comment by Badmoodman — May 21, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
Good comment Badmoodman.
Huckabee the wannabee is a typical hypocritical Republican. I think the ‘keep the masses ignorant’ emphasized during the Reagan years is alive and well among the ‘Reaganite Republicans’. Just say no!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:09 pmHappy Guy,
Feel free to realize that the states with the worse records on items like teen pregnancy and abortion, are red states.
Not sure what that means, but it sounds pretty bad.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:11 pmThen I’m sure he’ll agree there should be no religious instruction in public schools either, including school prayer.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:12 pmWhat do you expect, parents to teach them these things! Oh, that’s right. Libs don’t know about contraception or personal hygiene. That’s why the breed in slums like rats. Libs don’t go to school, they go to prison.
Comment by Happy Guy
Happy Guy is the most ignorant troll ever. Amazing…..
May 21st, 2007 at 2:12 pmAnd the Earth is flat, I say!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:14 pmI do not believe in contraption either…
May 21st, 2007 at 2:14 pmHappy Guy = GAY!!!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:15 pm“I do not believe in teaching about the corruption, cronyism and complete incompetence of the Republican Party”
May 21st, 2007 at 2:16 pmif it’s the responsibility of the parents, as Hucky states, then parents ought to be required to do so… many chicken out or disagree with the whole notion of discussion sex altogether…
May 21st, 2007 at 2:17 pmHey Happy Dude,
May 21st, 2007 at 2:19 pmI’m having unprotected sex right now, as I type, (sans personal hygiene….hygiene, what’s that?) in a slum, just like rats, right before I go back to jail (which happens to be a mile from the school I never attended).
Any questions?
But I do believe that a Tyranosaurus Rex and his wife rode comfortably aboard Noah’s ark along with goats, lambs and chickens.
-Mike “The Huckster” Huckabee
May 21st, 2007 at 2:20 pmFunny thing, Happy Guy, but it seems to be the Republicans like Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, former Bush adviser Claude Allen and former Whitehouse fundraiser Jack Abramoff who’ve been going to jail lately.
-GSD
May 21st, 2007 at 2:22 pm# 14 Why do you have to insult the libs? What gives you the right. You think you are better than everyone else.
I am a lib and I am not in prison. Where is the corruption in this administration? How many Republican have resigned from this administration? Look at the corrupt Gonzales. Maybe you should keep your big mouth shut.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:23 pmI’m really not sure what is best, relying on the (possibly repressed, scarred from childhood sexual abuse, Republican) parents to teach it or, like my child just a couple of weeks ago, coming home traumatized from watching some horrible puberty movie about childbirth that she saw at her public school.
I will admit that it did help open up yet another dialog between us and the horrible movie did help on a “THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU” level.
We also had the option to “opt out”, which I think most schools already do. I think it’s better for it to be there for those parents who are too lazy or naive to do it themselves.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:23 pmI taught Chelsea all she needed to know about sex….wink, wink, wink…..
May 21st, 2007 at 2:29 pmI suspect Happy guy is neither. Thanks for the link to the stats NC.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:29 pmYou know, teachers are trained to teach. Most parents are not.
My parents never said a word to me about sex, but they sent me to the local nature museum for a class on puberty. And my mother was a doctor!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:32 pmI believe most pregnant teens have been in school long enough to sit through several sex-ed sessions in school. Sure helped them.
While it’s not bad for the public schools to at least make an effort, does anyone think that the poor(er) state of parenthood could have something to do with it? How about some improvement on their part? And do we need sex-ed courses to run from the fifth to tenth-grades (as is in Virginia)?
May 21st, 2007 at 2:32 pmGSD – you know, of course, that before the “fall” the reason that the Tyranosaurus Rex had those great big teeth was because the T-rex was originally a vegetarian, and used those large fangs to eat watermelon and cantaloupe (which have very thick skins) right off the vine!
:)
Can these theocrats be any more stupid when it comes to science? This is only rhetorical; I’m not looking for an answer.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:34 pmPresident Clinton,
Have you changed your diet since your bypass surgeries?
May 21st, 2007 at 2:36 pmMy fellow left wingers,
We all know what this is all about…..State control of children. Taking parental control away from parents and having the State be the parent. It worked wonders in the Soviet Union. it will work here.
We want to undermine that American family, we want parents that teach against contraception, against abortion to be ridiculed by their children.
We want to create a sex police like in China. We want to control family issues and take away control of the family away from parents.
Let us be honest my left wing tools. We want to destroy the traditional American family and have the State be the head of household!
Join me my friends, join me in this epic battle against family values!
Let us do what is right and make the State mommy and daddy!!!
who will join me my toolish friends? Follow me!!!
I am the greatest and smartest President to ever set foot on the Oval Office rug!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:37 pmComment by President(valianthehater) Clinton — May 21, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
(yawn)
May 21st, 2007 at 2:41 pmBored with life, eh?
You were a great President, I have to admit.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:42 pmGSD – you know, of course, that before the “fall†the reason that the Tyranosaurus Rex had those great big teeth was because the T-rex was originally a vegetarian, and used those large fangs to eat watermelon and cantaloupe (which have very thick skins) right off the vine!
:)
Can these theocrats be any more stupid when it comes to science? This is only rhetorical; I’m not looking for an answer.
Comment by Engr Tony — May 21, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Just remember Engr Tony, your religion, my religion, the left wing religion is………………..SCIENCE!!!
to us Science is infallible, impossible of making mistakes! Scientist are our priests! and they can never make a mistake!
Just like they told us that the atom was the smallest particle in the universe and boom! we found out that it wasn’t!
Just like they told us that the Neanderthal man was hunched forward and boom! we found out that the individual that they had found and studied had arthritis!
or like when they had to replace the heads and bones and switch the head and bones of countless dinosaurs since scientist had gotten it right…i mean wrong.
Yes, science to us the left wingers is our religion, our god, our priests, our prayers.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:42 pmPresident Clinton,
Have you changed your diet since your bypass surgeries?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 21, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Hell no!!! McDonalds and puuuuuuuuuuuuussssssssssy……………………………..cats all day long!!!
Now that I am not President….well, all my women interns are……well you know.
It never cease to amaze me how the left wing women who claim to love women rights never minded how much of a male pig I am! but hooorray!!!! for them, their defence for me has allowed me to use and abuse countless of women!!!
NOW, NARAL, etc are all in my pocket and they will always defence me….and in my pocket I mean their leaders hands who are women! wink, wink, wink….Oh yeah BABY!!!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:46 pmYEAH BABY!!!!
You were a great President, I have to admit.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 21, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
You know, that is what Monica kept on yelling in the oval office….no wonder I stained her dress.
All that power! I miss it so much. I hope that if my wife gets elected she let’s me play in the Oval Office again. I will keep my fingers crossed.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:48 pmComment by President(valianthehater) Clinton — May 21, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
(yawn)
Bored with life, eh?
Comment by DRxJ — May 21, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
You spotted that idiot, too. Oy.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:53 pmHappy Guy is the most ignorant troll ever. Amazing…..
Comment by Zooey — May 21, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
That’s a bold statement, Zooey. Keep in mind he’s got a ton of competition.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:53 pmWhy do libs think that it’s up to the schools and the government to teach this subject?
May 21st, 2007 at 2:54 pmCan someone explain how one ‘believes’ in evolution? Evolution is not a faith – it is a rational, scientific theory – tested, reviewed, retested, re-reviewed and possibly revised in the face of new scientific evidence. Faith is not part of it; however it is not incompatible with Christianity – except for those dim enough to believe that the mythology of a primitive desert people should be read literally.
And please don’t talk about ‘it’s only a theory.’ It is scientific theory, not how Aunt Betty thinks the aliens got here.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:54 pmI guess he wants kids to learn about herpes after they have contracted it, like he did.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:57 pmAs we watch the US sink to the middle of the Global Rankings in test score profieciency, we watch how other countries do better than the US with less than 20% of the budget/per student.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:58 pmBut let’s forget the basics and allow the Teacher’s Union to continue to drain the forced education budget and fight against a voucher system that will fix the problem (truly would help inner cities) and let’s focus on sex education. Yeah, we’ve seen incredible paybacks from that. Studies confirm that it has had no affect on pre-teen birth rates. But results shouldn’t be measured……..just keep going with failed policies.
“Why do Republicans, in matters of education and public policy almost always prefer ignorance to information?
Comment by KRank — May 21, 2007″
Because when it comes to these subjects, that’s mommy and daddy’s job!
May 21st, 2007 at 3:02 pm“Why do libs think that it’s up to the schools and the government to teach this subject?”
Why shouldn’t teachers teach? That’s what they were trained to do. Most parents weren’t trained to teach sex ed. Maybe if we were more open about sexuality we wouldn’t have so many teen pregnancies and unwed mothers. God knows the repression method isn’t working that well.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:05 pmVouchers are a scam – they aren’t big enough to allow poor people to use them, and they allow the middle class and the rich to opt out of public education more easily. Anyone who tells you that that this will help ‘the inner cities’ is a liar.
Public schools and public libraries are the most democratic (small ‘d’) institutions in the U.S. And they have been under funded and under attack from Republicans for 30 years. If we fully funded schools and had outreach to families, and after school programs we could solve the education crisis. Heck, you wouldn’t have to pay teachers a lot more; good teachers are in the classroom because they love kids and can’t imagine being anywhere else.
But of course, we must invade other nations and build (and sell) weapons instead of providing for our future.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:06 pm#47 michael — did you actually intend “that’s mommy and daddy’s job” to be an answer to my question, or were you making fun of right wingers?
With the quality of trolls we get around these parts, it’s sometimes tough to tell sarcasm from genuine idiocy.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:07 pmHappy Guy is the most ignorant troll ever. Amazing…..
Comment by Zooey — May 21, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
That’s a bold statement, Zooey. Keep in mind he’s got a ton of competition.
Comment by KRank
Yeah, Zooey, who made you king, er, queen? I say we vote on it.
If we can sort them out. They pretty much all look alike to me.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:08 pmThat’s a bold statement, Zooey. Keep in mind he’s got a ton of competition.
Comment by KRank
That’s a fair statement, KRank. Heavy competition in the troll arena, these days.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:09 pmMike Huckabee,
just another Republican presidential hopeful. I don’t see how these people live in a world of reality when what they stand for is far from real. They support abstinence something that is working so well in High Schools all over the country. 13 yearold kids are having babies that they dump on their grandmother or mother. Republican need a new game plan, they can’t co-opt the Democrats plan cause they don’t really have one.
Libertas inaestimabilis res est – Liberty is a thing beyond all price
May 21st, 2007 at 3:10 pmYeah, Zooey, who made you king, er, queen? I say we vote on it.
If we can sort them out. They pretty much all look alike to me.
Comment by gummitch
Heh. Actually, it’s Princess.
They do all look alike, don’t they? TP should have a “troll font.”
May 21st, 2007 at 3:11 pmHey Powkat: You didn’t address the spending issue. I’ll get you the stats that show as the money per student has tripled over the years, the global assessment scores have tanked. So we can conclude that the more you increase spending, the lower the test scores. The newer Eastern European Countries are running circles around us with 1/5th the budget. Please explain that fact. It’s not education that is being attacked, it’s the siphoning off of the moneys for middle and upper management in education that has proven worthless. You have a Union running the scam and you libs love it.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:12 pmVouchers are the best thing that could ever happen to the educational system. They are big enough for poor people to afford and it’s been shown to be affordable for them. Check your facts.
Huckabee only knows about glory hole sex so there is not alot to teach there.
He is a fat queen trapped in a thin straight man’s body.
jack jett
May 21st, 2007 at 3:15 pm“#47 michael — did you actually intend “that’s mommy and daddy’s job†to be an answer to my question, or were you making fun of right wingers?
With the quality of trolls we get around these parts, it’s sometimes tough to tell sarcasm from genuine idiocy.
Comment by KRank — May 21, 2007″
If you’re having a tough time figuring out my meaning, maybe zooey can help you?
May 21st, 2007 at 3:17 pm“Why shouldn’t teachers teach? That’s what they were trained to do”
Yes, arithmetic, geography, history, English, economics, not sex education or “why does mary have two mommies”, or any of that feel good crap!
“Most parents weren’t trained to teach sex ed”
Says who?
Comment by ann — May 21, 2007
May 21st, 2007 at 3:21 pmAs we watch the US sink to the middle of the Global Rankings in test score profieciency, we watch how other countries do better than the US with less than 20% of the budget/per student.
But let’s forget the basics and allow the Teacher’s Union to continue to drain the forced education budget and fight against a voucher system that will fix the problem (truly would help inner cities) and let’s focus on sex education. Yeah, we’ve seen incredible paybacks from that. Studies confirm that it has had no affect on pre-teen birth rates. But results shouldn’t be measured……..just keep going with failed policies.
Comment by Eric — May 21, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
yes, we are more interested in teaching our children to be politically correct, to know about sex and masturbation and abortion and contraceptive than we are about teaching American children math, english, history, science, etc, etc.
Believe me when I tell you my fellow left wingers….the left cares more about America being fool of humans that know how to use contraceptive than Americans who know science, math, english, history, etc.
During my administration education took a huge dive, well math, science, history, english. But we taught our children all about sex, contraceptives, and abortion.
funny enough all that sex education didn’t do squat to diminish pregnancy rates under my administration.
but hey, our children don’t know how to add 2+2, but they certainly know how to have great sex….
ahhh an education system after my own heart. Teach all about sex and forget science, math, english, history, etc.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:37 pmI’m pretty sure if you don’t talk about sex, it won’t give those kids any ideas, then it won’t happen. See how easy squeezy that was.
/sarcasm
May 21st, 2007 at 3:39 pmif you’re having a tough time figuring out my meaning, maybe zooey can help you?
Comment by michael — May 21, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Or, alternatively, you could answer the question directly (something that your original post didn’t do, either).
May 21st, 2007 at 3:44 pmOr, alternatively, you could answer the question directly (something that your original post didn’t do, either).
Comment by KRank
That ain’t happening….ever.
May 21st, 2007 at 4:00 pmThat ain’t happening….ever.
Comment by Zooey — May 21, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Thanks, Zoo. I think you just helped me figure out Jake’s meaning. Oh, did I say Jake? I meant “michael”.
May 21st, 2007 at 4:05 pmPrez. Clinton.
May 21st, 2007 at 4:05 pmPlease forgive someone who believes in rational discussion but… do the failures of one administration (real and perceived) really mitigate the failures of another?
“Most parents weren’t trained to teach sex edâ€
Says who?
Comment by michael — May 21, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Please explain how a parent is better trained to TEACH sex ed than a TEACHER.
May 21st, 2007 at 4:09 pmIgnorance is bliss.
May 21st, 2007 at 4:45 pmBut I prefer sex.
Eric – I don’t know the source of your stats, but assuming they are accurate, my response is in countries where education and teachers are respected, students, parents and teachers cooperate to provide the best education. Also, in many countries they have testing that directs students into academic or trade tracks at a fairly early age. In most cases the society as a whole respects learning, scholarship and the arts. In the US the dominant culture is crude and makes fun of smart kids. Our mantra is, ‘If you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?”
Costs? How about how much $$ school districts have spent of the NCLB testing and ineffective programs like DARE and Reading First? Those programs are for profit enterprises – as are the troglodyte textbooks coming out of Texas. As I recall one of the Bush brothers has an inferior educationsl program that several state schools were forced to adopt.
Nope – to Republicans schools are not about young minds and hearts and helping children develop into healthy, well-functioning adults – they are just another source of short term profit.
PS. – how many years have you spent in education?
May 21st, 2007 at 4:59 pmPrez. Clinton.
Please forgive someone who believes in rational discussion but… do the failures of one administration (real and perceived) really mitigate the failures of another?
Comment by pete — May 21, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Wow, you might want to call my communications director, since during my years in office we would always point to similar things that REagan and Bush dad had done in order ot justify things.
Never ceases to amaze me how we left wingers are but a bunch of hypocrites.
May 21st, 2007 at 5:17 pmPrez. Clinton.
Please forgive someone who believes in rational discussion but… do the failures of one administration (real and perceived) really mitigate the failures of another?
Comment by pete — May 21, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Wow, you might want to call my communications director, since during my years in office we would always point to similar things that REagan and Bush dad had done in order ot justify things.
Never ceases to amaze me how we left wingers are but a bunch of hypocrites.
Comment by President Clinton — May 21, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
How about answering the question, troll?
It was a simple yes-or-no, not an essay question. Pete asked:
“do the failures of one administration (real and perceived) really mitigate the failures of another?”
Yes? or No?
May 21st, 2007 at 5:23 pmWingnuts, like me, don’t expect, or respect, an exchange of ideas. Proclamations and declarations are what makes Our Country, Our Race, and Our Religion, the best the world will ever see.
May 21st, 2007 at 6:01 pmOops! I forgot Our Party and Our Way of Life. Someone hit me, hard, with a New Testament.
May 21st, 2007 at 6:16 pmUp or down vote Prezident Cliton.
May 21st, 2007 at 6:18 pmFine. I don’t believe in voting for idiots.
May 21st, 2007 at 6:46 pmA Prayer for the age.
Mix the Kool-aid
May 21st, 2007 at 6:49 pmDrink it deep
God will fix things
While we sleep
i think it should be taught at least in high school cause most teens dont listen to their mother or father and it somtimes helps to have someone they look up to like thier teacher or counselor to say hey this is not the way to do it because no matter what you say or do to these kids they are not going to listen just because its their parents or half the time they think this cant happen to me.
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