Giuliani’s emergency coordinator speaks out.
Giuliani’s emergency coordinator speaks out.
Jerome Hauer, New York City’s first emergency management director, was once part of “the nucleus” of Rudy Giuliani’s “tight-knit set of advisers.” Now, he’s trying to set the record straight about what he sees as Giuliani’s “deeply flawed” anti-terrorism record:
In recent days, Mr. Hauer has challenged Mr. Giuliani’s recollection that he had little role as mayor in placing the city’s emergency command center at the ill-fated World Trade Center.
Mr. Hauer has also disputed the claim by the Giuliani campaign that the mayor’s wife, Judith Giuliani, had coordinated a help center for families after the attack.
And he has contradicted Mr. Giuliani’s assertions that the city’s emergency response was well coordinated that day, a point he made most notably to the authors of “Grand Illusion,” a book that depicts Mr. Giuliani’s antiterrorism efforts as deeply flawed.
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Trudi G: “I thought repugs could lie and no one would question it”???? How could anyone know I was in the right place at the right time…why not take advantage of 3,000 people dying…they won’t complain!
May 21st, 2007 at 10:35 pmI spent a decade as a first responder.
We do not like Rudy.
Now, someone with some juice, start asking about the god-damned radios that failed the firemen on Sept. 11 because they weren’t compatible with the police radios. (And that stupid shit is everywhere, not just in NYC.)
May 21st, 2007 at 10:36 pmSee, Rudy? People don’t appreciate it when you lie to puff yourself up, and they will expose you.
Toooodles!
May 21st, 2007 at 10:36 pmAnyone who lived and worked in New York under the Guiliani administration, as I did, knows what a vindictive, petty little autocrat that man is. He takes credit for many things he shouldn’t. He personally vilifies anyone who disagrees with him professionally from the public pulpit. He associates with people of questionable character, such as old Bernie Kerik.
Just becuase he didn’t crumble and die that day, he must be a masterful leader. What would anyone else have done – crawled into the corner of City Hall and whimpered?
Hell, he’s got my vote!
May 21st, 2007 at 10:37 pmNow, someone with some juice, start asking about the god-damned radios that failed the firemen on Sept. 11 because they weren’t compatible with the police radios. (And that stupid shit is everywhere, not just in NYC.)
Comment by Blue Girl, Red State
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the problem with the radios on-going?
May 21st, 2007 at 10:38 pmIs this guy calling JulieAnnie a lying sack of shit?
May 21st, 2007 at 10:40 pmIf not, I will.
RUC,
How was your first day back at work?
May 21st, 2007 at 10:43 pmZooey – yes. It is ongoing and it is nationwide. The last mass casualty drill I took part in, communications died within two hours of a 48 hour exercise and we were using out own cell phones.
In the event of a nuclear event – or a clever adversary blowing up a couple of satellites (hello China) – that wouldn’t be an option and we would be blind and deaf and hospitals would be overrun.
Let me fetch a link for you…
May 21st, 2007 at 10:51 pmMany of my posts on TP threads are being deleted. Methinks TP is being taken over by the Reichwing and I’ve been banned. If so, adios muchachos.
May 21st, 2007 at 10:52 pmRudy Giuliani’s greatest achievement post 9/11 was taking command of all the news media and making sure every camera was on him as he walked the streets and thanked God that George Bush was President.
Rudy Giuliani must be elected as our next President. All an American President needs to lead this nation of morons is a friendly Press and, as a Republican, he already has that.
USA USA USA
May 21st, 2007 at 10:54 pmMany of my posts on TP threads are being deleted. Methinks TP is being taken over by the Reichwing and I’ve been banned. If so, adios muchachos.
Comment by Uncle Ho
I see your comment, Uncle Ho. Please stay.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:00 pmZooey – here is a link to a post I wrote with links embedded. (apologies for the blogwhoring – I promised last night that was I would not make it a habit. Really I won’t.)
I’m kinda working on a post about this – I’ll see what else I can find for you. I can pull up professional journals through the academic database – I can’t link them, but I can copy-paste and post on a blog I can access for just such an emergency.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:00 pmComment by Blue Girl, Red State — May 21, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
That seems like a very basic thing that should have been fixed by now.
Thanks.
I’ll check back for the link.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:02 pmHiya/Bye-a(?) Zooey; I’d like to stay, but if all my shit keeps getting yanked, no point in staying. It’s been fun while it lasted though. We’ll see how long these posts stay up and go from there. 2309; time for nite-nite.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:06 pmZooey; Homer persona from Simpson’s thread. Twas me as a joke, forgot to change it back to normal name.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:09 pmComment by Uncle Ho
I see your comment, Uncle Ho. Please stay.
Comment by Zooey
Other people are having problems today Uncle Ho. My computer has been acting touchy all day. Maybe tomorrow will be better. And satellite radio was even out for several hours today. Some weird glitches or more Bush wiretapping.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:11 pmZooey/Shane: I thank you for your support, will check back tomorrow, but now I really do have to make like a banana and split. :-)
May 21st, 2007 at 11:18 pmZooey, a long day, I’m tired, but happy.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:27 pmGoing to do it again tomorrow!
Zooey, right after I posted to Uncle Ho my computer went on a 15 minute hiatus. Been like this all day. ggrrggh
May 21st, 2007 at 11:36 pmIt would have been nice if julie-annie had been nominated and then this all came out. Dang.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:38 pmComment by Blue Girl, Red State — May 21, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
Thanks, Blue Girl. I’ve bookmarked your blog. :)
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:12 amTo learn more about Jerome Hauer- google WKJO
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 amIf you want a cross-dressing weirdo to become president, then vote for Rudy > lol.
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:11 amThank You, Zooey.
This is a theme I hit often (aren’t we supposed to write what we know?) because it is too damned important to be left to wonks who never actually have to perform in the framework they define.
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:28 amRudy is running on the horror of 9-11 for President. Doesn’t that say so much about who he is, profiting off of the victims. He should donate all the money he made to the first responders, with chronic lung injury and the families of the victims.
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:46 amThe problem with TP. If your a good little boy or girl and don’t express your frustration with the present poltical mess by using explitives then your post may be allowed. Please don’t talk about anything that may upset someone.
May 22nd, 2007 at 2:00 amDisenfranchised Republican, Democratic, Independent and Americans of every other party are acting together to force changes in both parties platforms. Our goal is to affect the course of the ship of state and cause both primary parties to adopt our platform or have the support we gather vote for the party that does include our platform. We the American people demand change in this nation which has gone astray. FIRST and formost a PERMANENT BAN on ALL experiments involving torture against citizens of the United States, WHETHER they involve the furthering of military experimental studies OR behavioral modification to dissuade commercial competition, or for ANY OTHER purpose against unarmed American private individual citizens. Public review of all foreign aid packages; upon discovery that such aid is ill- advised based on current political and or military security such aid be increased or withdrawn. Public review of NAFTA and GAT that have resulted in the reduction of jobs and the industrial base in the USA. Increase in the number of Senate, Congressional, State and Local acceptance and action on letters from the public complaining of systemic abuse and corruption as it is now routine that that such reports of corruption go unread, unadressed and unanswered.
That investigations into deliberate “clearing” of the population to allow an influx of foreigners be assigned a high priority, as well as complete investigations into “Eugenics” programs carried out by ANY party on American soil and the strictest PROHIBITIONS thereupon emplaced. As an example, the following proposed legislation about human rights and the course of our plan to reform the nation. Support the privately proposed BILL “Safeguard USA” from John Mecca. Attacks by government agents on innocent men, women and children in their homes within the United States by using implanted microchips and microwave guns is going on all over the country. The following proposed BILL titled “Safeguard USA” was sent to all U.S. Senators Jan. 11, 2006. Thousands of web sites have stories about ordinary people reporting the same activity. Fraudulent profiles are used to allow adding names of anybody to enemy combatant lists, making it lawful to launch
unnecessary investigations using devices that destroy the immune system of those under surveillance. Doctors, lawyers, politicians, clergy are not immune from being placed on the lists of those to be placed under this form of investigation; then there are the innocent women and children also being attacked in this manner. Read carefully then take action. The US government, federal, state and local authorities and other parties are using microwave and acoustic weapons as well as implanted devices to attack thousands of Americans openly in their homes right now today. This is a well documented fact well known but not reported in the mainstream news. We implore you to write to your Senators and call their offices in support of the “Safeguard USA” Proposed BILL. Many lives are in serious danger, your efforts will insure that Freedom in this country still does exist. A full copy of the BILL is below for review. We need your help to implement the strategy of pressuring Senators to do what is legally and morally right. At the top & bottom of the page you will find a URL link to all internet newspapers and most big media outlets, Senators, and Congressmen. Write a letter to them to build up pressure and interest in passing the BILL regarding innocent Americans plight. The Legislation proposal has already been sent to ALL Senators and 100 Congressmen, Most Media Outlets Newspapers, TV Networks and Magazines. Totaling approximately 240 snail US postal mail letters with the Safeguard USA Legislation and explanatory letters; the plan is for 100 or so more. Because of cost only Calif. and NY Congressmen were sent letters. Write & call to all that you can. As you will read in the Legislation the Senators have 30 days to respond favorably. If they refuse to address properly the issue to make it illegal we need to send follow up letters to those we first wrote to saying that the Senators refused or did not respond and therefore they are endorsing TORTURE. Let everyone know then when and if they refuse that they are in favor of TORTURE of their own citizens without trial and in front of their families. This is mentioned as well in the legislation.
All legitimate Americans of any moral conscience must get on board with this immediately as these programs have been conducted for decades already. Now is the time for all Americans to come to the aid of their Nation. God Bless you all and may you find Strength, Courage, and Freedom. Again what I ask of you is to go about a campaign of writing to get the people in this country to pay attention especially referencing Guantanamo and other secret prison torture activities wherein your letters pointedly tell about torture in our homes here inside the US borders. Proposed Legislation Letter sent to all Senators follows:
To: Honorable Senators: Senate, Washington D.C. Urgent: U.S. Citizens Tortured and Murdered Under Guise of Experimentation & Investigation Inside U.S. borders. Honorable Senators: This is a request to have the new Bill titled “Safeguard USA” brought to the attention of the Senate. We ask you as a Senator to endorse it and immediately pass it through to Congress. Text of the “Safeguard USA” Bill follows explanation as to “the” why of its purpose. Reasons you will benefit from presenting this Bill to the Senate are multiple. Private American individuals are rapidly losing confidence in the legitimacy of our governmnet and raising their voices in perfectly justified indignation. Internationally, America has been identified as a bastion of Human Rights, yet even now those rights are routinely violated every day. By supporting this legislation, activist groups around the country will endorse you and a re-awakening of respect will be part of your legacy. You need to do this to retain any moral authority or legitimate claim to leadership. You can save lives and stem potential dissent that must result from the continued allowance of these heinous, inhuman, unamerican illegal criminal activities. You can save lives that are covertly and secretly being destroyed with the encouragement of illegal, amoral, illegitimate, unamerican, unethical and entirely criminal elements within our own governmnet and society. You can stop a nazi infection, which if allowed to continue will divide and very possibly destroy our beloved nation as that is the aim of these criminals. Above all in doing so you will save our nation and bring back our country, gaining the confidence and trust of the people once again.
You have 30 days to answer this inquiry. Should you not answer within 30 days, it will be understood from your inaction that you are actually in favor of allowing covert torture using directed radio waves and secretly implanted devices on U.S. citizens inside their houses being done by the U.S. GOVERNMENT and its Associates. Subsequently notice will be made to the general public, media and industry as to where you stand on this proposed legislation titled (Safeguard USA). Obviously constituents, media and industry that we will contact with your decision will be totally shocked if such legislation is not wholeheartedly endorsed. All persons who have authority to stop such activity and do not, will be accomplices in such capital crimes. This letter is on behalf of several thousand citizens being tortured in their homes right here in the United States. All of their requests to authorities for help have been ignored and their own research into this matter indicates secret National Security policy is responsible. If you do not know about or do not wish to believe that such things are going on as described, regardless there should be such a law as that proposed in this correspondence. If you truly don’t know about this it may have to do with the phrase “Need To Know” used to keep even Senators from knowing about dark activities; so you should demand from the CIA, NSA, FBI, “Homeland” Security and Police the facts about it, and then consider that they will be telling you half-truths. Such a law should be on the books regardless of the beliefs of non-technically oriented individuals. Those who are victims are reporting the same torturous behavioral and immune system destruction technology is being used, such as directed energy radio frequency and implanted devices. From their research they are finding that it is being done by a combination of law enforcement investigations together with military run corporate research, sanctioned by many policy annunciation’s. One of many legislated policies that appears to be being used and needs to be made moot is U.S. Code “War and National Defense” Subpart 1520a, this statute has text that can be interpreted to allow any action on any citizen. Such a legislative debacle must be corrected by proposing and passing the enclosed “Proposed Legislation (Safeguard USA)”.
Senators, too, might be implanted with a covertly installed microchip yourselves or be subjects of directed energy mind control experimentation to sway your opinion through hypnotic suggestion or decrease your mental acuity in order to force you to defer much of your reading and decision making to others. Our investigation has shown from experience that people doing this have chosen extraordinarily wealthy people, police, FBI Agents and on a subjected basis there are indicators from watching prominent politicians on television that may be victims as well. Symptoms can be as simple as waking up haggard, insomnia, just as you are drifting off to sleep feeling shocks or seeing faint lights or hearing mechanical sounds. It would pay for you to follow up and learn as much as possible about these things; a large number of private individual Americans across the U.S. have supplied information that could certainly be useful to save America from these despicably unamerican criminal activities. Additionally as a separate issue, we ask for your endorsement to fund a new federal agency to be called “Safeguard USA Corps” which will be chaired by private persons who have been victims, to oversee counter-surveillance of illegal electronic attack and or harmful electronic investigative activities such as described here in this letter using existent advanced technology to detect and arrest ALL offenders regardless of unconstitutional extra-legal pronouncements used in carrying out their objectives. Further details of this proposed “Safeguard USA Corps” will be sent upon your response to our priority issue of the Proposed Legislation. Your liability is genuine as we will bring the attention of the American people to this issue affecting their most basic Constitutional Rights and Freedoms. In advance of any legislative process you must consider that if it is diluted to any degree it will not be effective as regards to this proposed legislation formulation.
The American people will in fact take action in regard to any opportunity to bring those to justice whom defer or ignore this demand of immediate cessation of actions against Constitutionally protected American citizens and private individual Americans. Be additionally ADVISED that many thousands of victims mentioned are being used to hide the actual true numbers affected, which research has been developed suggesting that a full 1/2 of the U.S. population may already have been implanted with advanced polymer plastic implants nearly impossible to detect. The symptoms where people are sensitized to radio frequency energy can be modest enough that such victims have few if any symptoms; however upon their general sensitization being accomplished the operators of the transmitters can increase the energy and modulate the frequency to cause heart attack, stroke or death along with conditions such as auto immune disorders, syndromes, mental depreciation of concentration or diminished capability to the level of 3 year- olds or as simple as sleep deprivation symptoms even without causing outright insomnia. “Proposed Legislation”: “Safeguard USA” PROHIBITED with liability of Criminal Penalties are any action on any United States citizen where they are under investigation or experimented on without their express personal signatory knowledge and permission, which in either case where methods are used that can adversely affect their physiology; enforceable regardless as well whether or not those carrying out such activities are aware of the adverse effects being present.
This Statute is in force for any action on any United States citizen where they are experimented on without their express personal signatory knowledge of and permission to do so. Methodology prohibited by this statute are acoustic devices such as LRAD, radio frequency, microwave, see through the wall technology, drugs, gasses, biological materials, hypnotic methodology of any kind, electromagnetic energy, internally implanted, external microchip
transmitters, photon device whether hybrid or not, masers or any device emitting any kind of energy. Prohibited by this statute is the use of such devices mentioned herein by any and all branches of government whether Federal, State, or Local Authority, or by any private source foreign or domestic without exemption. Furthermore no legal or extra-legal authority may grant or even entertain special mitigation of the prohibition of the use of such devices and techniques for use on any private individual or any American citizen. Such prohibition is in force regardless of any reasons even when National Security Issues are considered to be at risk; this is due to their being issues presented during the formation of this statute that such assertions of National Security as an issue has been abused and will therefore continue to be used as a shield to permit heinous immoral acts, therefore such shields must as well be prohibited. Covered by this statute are all entities or persons mentioned as having used, or potentially could have or may have caused others to use such devices and technology mentioned, as Criminally liable and Civilly liable without any limit whatsoever on punitive damages. Whether or not it was known by them while they were committing such acts where they were unaware such technology could adversely affect the persons being targeted knew of such dangers as it is the obligation of the authors, operators and managers to know such issues of danger having to do with such activities. This legislation will be effective retroactive to the time where mental or physically harmful effects have caused harm to any US citizen or private individual American, whether or not such citizen was stripped of their full citizenship rights by secret legislation not disclosed to them. In addition all and any FOIA / FOIL requests where reference to a persons being exposed to potentially dangerous methodology as described here must under this legislation without exception have their requests properly filled without redaction, and their request exempted from all exemptions that could be used to refuse their request. Furthermore no agency bar none is exempt from
FOIA / FOIL requests even such as the “Homeland” Security Agency. Additionally, even such agencies which have exemptions permitting their refusal to answer including any agency or organization having exemption from FOIA /FOIL requests, as well as all private entities must comply with answering FOIA / FOIL requests pertinent to the issues contained herein and subject to the penalties outline within this legislation described. All efforts are to be made to investigate and release records pertinent to the use of all human beings that have been used in the way described in this Statute for the purpose of apprising them of their being targeted. Such efforts will further be in the form of public announcements in newspapers, radio and television at the expense of the U.S. Government to commence immediately upon the passing of this Statute. “Penalties”: PENALTIES for breaking this Statute and being found guilty are mandatory 40-year sentence without possibility of parole. This liability of penalty applies to any person regardless of political rank, military rank, civil servant rank as well as all civilians including medical doctors or researchers and their associates. As well as any person whom knows about such activities and does nothing to report such activities, whether or not a superior tells them to say nothing; where saying nothing makes them an accomplice to a crime by their silence. Liable parties would include enforcement authorities who refuse to listen and act when told of such activities by whistle-blowers or victims and refuse to investigate properly where by this statute they are required to investigate with the legally authorized use of technology existing for such purpose, where such equipment is to be paid for by the U.S. Government. Destruction of files pertinent to human experimentation and the files of projects having to do with human experimentation and or investigation as mentioned herein are liable both Criminally and Civilly regardless of their being in government or private organizations or persons. Destruction of files despite their existence after the fact of destruction will carry the proscribed penalties for such persons and for their superiors.
NO legal exemptions to this statute are permitted for any agency or person including agency heads and also apply to foreign persons regardless of their having diplomatic immunity. This legislation supercedes all immunity and exemptions for independent action by all civil and military authority executives. Where further as an issue all laws, statutes, policy, directives and practices to experiment on any U.S. citizen or private individual American without their express personal signatory knowledge of and permission, are hereby considered illegal and moot; where such prior laws, statutes, policy, directives and practices allowing such are required to be removed from all files of any kind. All such permissions from subjects when obtained as stipulated by this proposed legislation upon its adoption are required to be sent notices monthly reaffirming their permission and consent in writing where they would need to sign anew such a document and then send it back to the requesting authority, otherwise it expires the permission; to continue the experimental activity on that person to further prevent abuse. Such permission contracts are required to be specially worded with a statement at the very top of the first page of a monthly notice made in bold #16 typeset print have the following statement ” You have given your authorization to be experimented on for the following described experiment “. Furthermore, NO person is allowed to give their permission to do any experiment on another person regardless of the anticipated subjects mental capacity to understand the issues, wherein another person takes responsibility for such permission as such action on behalf of another is illegal and punishable by 40 years without possibility of parole in prison for engaging in volunteering a person. .End of Proposed Legislation..
May 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 amI want to take action as suggested in above lenghty post re the “Safeguard” bill but the polymer monitoring device that has obviously been implanted somewhere in my body (probably at the last blood draw I had at the lab) is preventing me from communicating with the proper authorities….Please advise how I can get around this electronic thought control muzzle….Do I make some kind of aluminum foil hat and cover my feet with sardines in mustard sauce while riding my tricycly…WHAT do ….?????
May 22nd, 2007 at 7:10 amLying – a Repugnican Family Value
May 22nd, 2007 at 8:17 amCongress Must Do Its Duty
by Rep. Ron Paul
Many of my colleagues, faced with the reality that the war in Iraq is not going well, line up to place all the blame on the president. The president “mismanaged” the war, they say. “It’s all the president’s fault,” they claim. In reality, much of the blame should rest with Congress, which shirked its constitutional duty to declare war and instead told the president to decide for himself whether or not to go to war.
More than four years into that war, Congress continues to avoid its constitutional responsibility to exercise policy oversight, particularly considering the fact that the original authorization no longer reflects the reality on the ground in Iraq .
According to the original authorization (Public Law 107-243) passed in late 2002, the president was authorized to use military force against Iraq to achieve the following two specific objectives only: “(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq ; and (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.”
I was highly critical of the resolution at the time, because I don’t think the United States should ever go to war to enforce United Nations resolutions. I was also skeptical of the claim that Iraq posed a “continuing threat” to the United States.
As it turned out, Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, no al-Qaeda activity, and no ability to attack the United States. Regardless of this, however, when we look at the original authorization for the use of force it is clearly obvious that our military has met both objectives. Our military very quickly removed the regime of Saddam Hussein, against whom the United Nations resolutions were targeted. A government approved by the United States has been elected in post-Saddam Iraq , fulfilling the first objective of the authorization.
With both objectives of the original authorization completely satisfied, what is the legal ground for our continued involvement in Iraq ? Why has Congress not stepped up to the plate and revisited the original authorization?
This week I plan to introduce legislation that will add a sunset clause to the original authorization (Public Law 107-243) six months after passage. This is designed to give Congress ample time between passage and enactment to craft another authorization or to update the existing one. With the original objectives fulfilled, Congress has a legal obligation to do so. Congress also has a moral obligation to our troops to provide relevant and coherent policy objectives in Iraq .
Unlike other proposals, this bill does not criticize the president’s handling of the war. This bill does not cut off funds for the troops. This bill does not set a timetable for withdrawal. Instead, it recognizes that our military has achieved the objectives as they were spelled out in law and demands that Congress live up to its constitutional obligation to provide oversight. I am hopeful that this legislation will enjoy broad support among those who favor continuing or expanding the war as well as those who favor ending the war. We need to consider anew the authority for Iraq, and we need to do it sooner rather than later.
May 22nd, 2007 at 8:51 amSure, if you dig deep enough, you are bound to uncover something that may be of interest to someone. I mean, a disgruntled former emergency coordinator is to be trusted, but Giuliani is not? By that flawed logic, one may as well frame our Middle East policy by groveling to Iran’s President.
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 amJTitor, decent language is an equal part in the credible world we are all trying to attain. When speech gets ratched up to the red zone, we lose the essence of clear thought and basic values. Always present yourself at your best, how you would speak to any dignitary, your favorite movie star or your boss. The public deserves equal consideration.
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:55 amHillary Clinton took campaign money from one of the most wanted people on the FBI Fugitive List, Ray Jinnah.
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:02 amIf Rudy is weak on terror then he will get a lot of Democrat votes.
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 amFrequency Satellite Tv
Interesting – because that is the same thing I found out last Thursday.
March 16th, 2008 at 1:53 pm