Comments on: Was Gonzales’ hospital visit illegal? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:50:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: carollt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814671 carollt Mon, 21 May 2007 23:20:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814671 If Gonzo is disbarred, can he still be the Attorney General? And when he is gone, can we see the list? Nixon had a list; you can bet this bunch has one too. Chances are a lot of the folks that comment on this blog are on the list. And I am honored to be in the company of so many, who like me, disagree. If it is a crime to disagree with W and his cronies, I proudly plead guilty as all hell. If Gonzo is disbarred, can he still be the Attorney General? And when he is gone, can we see the list? Nixon had a list; you can bet this bunch has one too. Chances are a lot of the folks that comment on this blog are on the list.

And I am honored to be in the company of so many, who like me, disagree. If it is a crime to disagree with W and his cronies, I proudly plead guilty as all hell.

]]> By: Buck Fush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814627 Buck Fush Mon, 21 May 2007 22:55:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814627 Laws? We don't need no stinking laws. Bubbleboy and Gonzo don't follow any laws, they only get in the way of the crimes they commit. Hating the Repukian Mafia daily Laws? We don’t need no stinking laws. Bubbleboy and Gonzo don’t follow any laws, they only get in the way of the crimes they commit.

Hating the Repukian Mafia daily

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814498 ForTruth Mon, 21 May 2007 22:02:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814498 Monica Lewinsky served at the pleasure of the President. Just sayin' Monica Lewinsky served at the pleasure of the President. Just sayin’

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814450 unbelievable Mon, 21 May 2007 21:46:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814450 "That’s good enough for us. Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:52 pm" November 2006 showed that, apparently, it isn't... Keep up with that strategy though... We like your odds in 2008 as a result of it. “That’s good enough for us.
Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:52 pm”

November 2006 showed that, apparently, it isn’t…

Keep up with that strategy though… We like your odds in 2008 as a result of it.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814442 unbelievable Mon, 21 May 2007 21:44:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814442 "Oh, sometimes we could we by honest arguments and sometimes we probably couldn’t. Why even take a chance? Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:52 pm" I was also a conservative for 33 years - I assure you - the odds of that are slim, because the conservative view of the word is too shallow to have a valid shot at reality-based issues. It's why I jumped ship... Why take a chance? You mean - winning is everything, and compromise or educating yourself of a fellow human being's point of view is beneath you? That very attitude explains why you guys can't win. “Oh, sometimes we could we by honest arguments and sometimes we probably couldn’t. Why even take a chance?
Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:52 pm”

I was also a conservative for 33 years – I assure you – the odds of that are slim, because the conservative view of the word is too shallow to have a valid shot at reality-based issues. It’s why I jumped ship…

Why take a chance? You mean – winning is everything, and compromise or educating yourself of a fellow human being’s point of view is beneath you? That very attitude explains why you guys can’t win.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814371 Bob Mon, 21 May 2007 21:15:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814371 #15, etc. reads like a description of the "Terrible Twos". That's how two-year-olds try to get their way: make noise, cause a scene, go limp, respond to any attempt at dialoge by throwing a tantrum. Oh the world is such a cruel place for two-year-olds and republicans. Interesting that an argument procedure for a whole 'grown-up' political party is based on early child development. #15, etc. reads like a description of the “Terrible Twos”. That’s how two-year-olds try to get their way: make noise, cause a scene, go limp, respond to any attempt at dialoge by throwing a tantrum.

Oh the world is such a cruel place for two-year-olds and republicans.
Interesting that an argument procedure for a whole ‘grown-up’ political party is based on early child development.

]]> By: Joel http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814350 Joel Mon, 21 May 2007 21:05:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814350 I'm sure the TBA will say "no" and that'll be the end of that... I’m sure the TBA will say “no” and that’ll be the end of that…

]]> By: KRank http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814338 KRank Mon, 21 May 2007 21:01:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814338 <em>Of course we can’t defend it, but we can still say it (as loud and often as possible) and some people will believe it. That’s good enough for us.</em> Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:52 pm Yeah, it's kind of <strong>got to be</strong> good enough for you, seeing as you have little else to lean on in making a convincing case for your policies or leaders. Thus is displayed the politics of low expectations, personified in the figure of George W. Bush. Of course we can’t defend it, but we can still say it (as loud and often as possible) and some people will believe it. That’s good enough for us.

Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:52 pm

Yeah, it’s kind of got to be good enough for you, seeing as you have little else to lean on in making a convincing case for your policies or leaders. Thus is displayed the politics of low expectations, personified in the figure of George W. Bush.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814336 WaltTheMan Mon, 21 May 2007 21:00:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814336 If it was unethical, illegal or unprofessional conduct Gonzo could have his right to practice law revoked. That would put a damper on his right to act as AG. If it was unethical, illegal or unprofessional conduct Gonzo could have his right to practice law revoked. That would put a damper on his right to act as AG.

]]> By: Chris Mitchell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814335 Chris Mitchell Mon, 21 May 2007 21:00:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814335 Wouldn't Comey also likely be guilty? I assumed he talked to Ashcroft before Gonzales got there and might have mentioned it. I'd hate to see this bring him down as well. On Another front, aren't all White House employees requires to submit when inadvertant (or otherwise) secruity breaches occur to an in-house inspector? I recall an exchange in congress recently about this very topic with respect to Karl Rove and Scooter Libby (that wasn't done). Wouldn’t Comey also likely be guilty? I assumed he talked to Ashcroft before Gonzales got there and might have mentioned it. I’d hate to see this bring him down as well.

On Another front, aren’t all White House employees requires to submit when inadvertant (or otherwise) secruity breaches occur to an in-house inspector? I recall an exchange in congress recently about this very topic with respect to Karl Rove and Scooter Libby (that wasn’t done).

]]> By: nanlichi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814316 nanlichi Mon, 21 May 2007 20:56:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814316 Come on ButtBoy, step up bitch! You wanted a chance to argue your case, say something instead of regurgitating this morning's smag from KKKarl. Come on ButtBoy, step up bitch! You wanted a chance to argue your case, say something instead of regurgitating this morning’s smag from KKKarl.

]]> By: BottomBoy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814304 BottomBoy Mon, 21 May 2007 20:52:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814304 #17: Explains why you guys won’t allow us a voice - you know you can’t win. Oh, sometimes we could we by honest arguments and sometimes we probably couldn't. Why even take a chance? #18: Of course we can't defend it, but we can still say it (as loud and often as possible) and some people will believe it. That's good enough for us. #17: Explains why you guys won’t allow us a voice – you know you can’t win.

Oh, sometimes we could we by honest arguments and sometimes we probably couldn’t. Why even take a chance?

#18: Of course we can’t defend it, but we can still say it (as loud and often as possible) and some people will believe it. That’s good enough for us.

]]> By: KRank http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814293 KRank Mon, 21 May 2007 20:47:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814293 <em>Never, ever give your political opponent a chance to talk back or voice an alternative. It’s a lose-lose proposition. Either you’re beaten by an opponent who’s smarter than you or really does have a better argument, or you lose face by exhibiting mortal weakness (i.e. allowing your opponent to try to challenge you). In politics, you are always right - there is no alternative and therefore no need for debate. </em> Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:33 pm ... or there's always the chance that one or both of you could learn something you didn't know before and thus be better prepared to participate in the political process... NAH! That will never happen, at least not with Regressives. They don't believe in learnin' or no facts. Theirs is a faith-based initiative. Never, ever give your political opponent a chance to talk back or voice an alternative. It’s a lose-lose proposition. Either you’re beaten by an opponent who’s smarter than you or really does have a better argument, or you lose face by exhibiting mortal weakness (i.e. allowing your opponent to try to challenge you).

In politics, you are always right – there is no alternative and therefore no need for debate.

Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:33 pm

… or there’s always the chance that one or both of you could learn something you didn’t know before and thus be better prepared to participate in the political process…

NAH! That will never happen, at least not with Regressives. They don’t believe in learnin’ or no facts. Theirs is a faith-based initiative.

]]> By: KRank http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814276 KRank Mon, 21 May 2007 20:42:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814276 <em>Gonzales serves at the pleasure of the President and if President has deemed it was legal, it is legal.</em> Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:12 pm Just one more example of the devastatingly effective troll strategy of making it <em>impossible</em> to parody them. I mean, really, how do you do anything other than shake your head in disbelief at the idiocy of a statement like this? Gonzales serves at the pleasure of the President and if President has deemed it was legal, it is legal.

Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

Just one more example of the devastatingly effective troll strategy of making it impossible to parody them.

I mean, really, how do you do anything other than shake your head in disbelief at the idiocy of a statement like this?

]]> By: nanlichi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814266 nanlichi Mon, 21 May 2007 20:40:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814266 Ok ButtBoy, Here's your chance to impress all of us Progs with your superior intellect. Defend your statement that if the president has deemed it to be legal, it is legal. You won't, because you can't. It's a moronic and ridiculous statement that just reveals the depth of your Bush worship. And you are a still a sycophantic whore. Ok ButtBoy,

Here’s your chance to impress all of us Progs with your superior intellect. Defend your statement that if the president has deemed it to be legal, it is legal.

You won’t, because you can’t. It’s a moronic and ridiculous statement that just reveals the depth of your Bush worship.

And you are a still a sycophantic whore.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814265 unbelievable Mon, 21 May 2007 20:39:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814265 "Either you’re beaten by an opponent who’s smarter than you or really does have a better argument, or you lose face by exhibiting mortal weakness (i.e. allowing your opponent to try to challenge you). Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:33 pm" I've been her for over a year and a half and I have NEVER seen a conservative win a debate with a liberal. Explains why you guys won't allow us a voice - you know you can't win. “Either you’re beaten by an opponent who’s smarter than you or really does have a better argument, or you lose face by exhibiting mortal weakness (i.e. allowing your opponent to try to challenge you).
Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:33 pm”

I’ve been her for over a year and a half and I have NEVER seen a conservative win a debate with a liberal.

Explains why you guys won’t allow us a voice – you know you can’t win.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814250 unbelievable Mon, 21 May 2007 20:35:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814250 "Didn’t you mean Gonzales serves TO PLEASURE the President? Comment by Shane — May 21, 2007 @ 4:20 pm" Does that mean the Chimp is into S&M then? :D “Didn’t you mean Gonzales serves TO PLEASURE the President?
Comment by Shane — May 21, 2007 @ 4:20 pm”

Does that mean the Chimp is into S&M then? :D

]]> By: BottomBoy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814235 BottomBoy Mon, 21 May 2007 20:33:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814235 #10: Ben. That's what I've been wondering about you dems and progressives. Why are you trying to engage in a dialogue, when it's obvious that you can only lose ground that way? Never, ever give your political opponent a chance to talk back or voice an alternative. It's a lose-lose proposition. Either you're beaten by an opponent who's smarter than you or really does have a better argument, or you lose face by exhibiting mortal weakness (i.e. allowing your opponent to try to challenge you). In politics, you are always right - there is no alternative and therefore no need for debate. #10: Ben. That’s what I’ve been wondering about you dems and progressives. Why are you trying to engage in a dialogue, when it’s obvious that you can only lose ground that way? Never, ever give your political opponent a chance to talk back or voice an alternative. It’s a lose-lose proposition. Either you’re beaten by an opponent who’s smarter than you or really does have a better argument, or you lose face by exhibiting mortal weakness (i.e. allowing your opponent to try to challenge you).

In politics, you are always right – there is no alternative and therefore no need for debate.

]]> By: Republicans are the Fear and Smear Party http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814227 Republicans are the Fear and Smear Party Mon, 21 May 2007 20:31:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814227 That would be so cool if Gonzo got suspended for ethics violations. That would be so cool if Gonzo got suspended for ethics violations.

]]> By: nanlichi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-3814220 nanlichi Mon, 21 May 2007 20:29:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/21/was-gonzales-hospital-visit-illegal/#comment-3814220 Gonzales serves at the pleasure of the President and if President has deemed it was legal, it is legal. Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:12 pm Seriously ButtBoy, pull your head out of your ass and look around. If Bush is the "decider" of what's legal or not, why do you need a Supreme Court? "Bush is God" is only a motto for you sycophantic whores. Gonzales serves at the pleasure of the President and if President has deemed it was legal, it is legal.

Comment by BottomBoy — May 21, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

Seriously ButtBoy, pull your head out of your ass and look around. If Bush is the “decider” of what’s legal or not, why do you need a Supreme Court? “Bush is God” is only a motto for you sycophantic whores.

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