Your forefathers knew exactly what to do with people like these.

Comment by CompTROLLER V-

Don’t you pretend to know what I think. You and I are polar opposites. I definitely don’t know where you’re coming from, or care for that matter. But I am definitely not to happy with Democrats right now and will not vote for them if given an option.

“NRA CAMPED OUT IN TENNESSEE SAYING GORE WAS GOING TO TAKE AWAY GUNS. HOW DUMB DO PEOPLE HAVE TO BE TO NOT WANT THE PRESIDENT TO BE FROM THEIR STATE?”

There’s that partisan spin again! And you’re not insulting the voters? They’re all dumb because they don’t vote for your candidate? You believe that the home state of the Presidential candidate should automatically give him/her the electoral points simply because s/he hails from that state, not looking at their record of scandal? And no, I’ve read full accounts, and the NRA was one legitimate voice of many influencing the voters of Tennessee. Google it. Albert Gore had a history of scandals coming from there. The voters casted their ballots. Please respect the outcome.

“REALLY HOW ABOUT OHIO AND FLORIDA?”

Bush took Florida easily in 2004, and there’s no real substance to the allegations in Ohio. If it’s so important, why hasnt this 110th Democratic Congress visited the subject? Kerry wouldn’t have taken the presidency, anyways.

“NO ROVE AND GONZO DID THAT.”

Your blame game knows no boundaries. In your mind, if you lost, you were always robbed. That’s been your unrelenting contention, clearly.

“I WILL WHEN IT HAPPENS.”

The American people know that your party has lost time and time again. Admit it, the Democratic party is no longer genuine, just loony. You believe that if every Representatives, Senators, President, Vice President, Justice is not completely Democratic, then there’s seriously wrong with the country. Both parties need serious cleaning, but you believe only a one-party system works (in this case, Democratic), no matter how corrupt.

Is that how you debate, wait until everybody leaves. Loser.

“OK, it’s official. You’re an idiot.”

Man, so full of substance. Doesn’t the name calling signal a white flag? You are not at liberty to label anyone an “official” idiot, by the way. As well, you’re not at liberty to decide whether and when anyone should be taken seriously.

“In conclusion, log off before you hurt yourself.”

You are often floating this line as if you’re trying to convince yourself that you’ve won the argument, and to make the person feel as if there’s no point to issuing a response. That’s kiddish and deceiving, to say the least. I’ll keep challenging your misleading misinforation, you can bet on that.

And finally, why would you issue me links to left-wing pages in attempting to justify your old and rambling left-wing contentions? With another left-winger denoting the same material? Good to see Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s bipartison tone in effect.

“First of all, learn the difference between “you’re” and “your”.”

People who have a sound rebuttal are not stupidly focusing on obviously minor grammar mistakes.

In conclusion, Bush is the winner (x2), and you and Shane need to come to that realization. I’m sorry that both of you choose to mislead others. An Al Gore presidency wouldn’t have been great, anyways.

Am I complaining about the fact that Mr. Clinton couldn’t even take the popular vote? There were calls to abolish the electoral college during 2000, but not when the system was convenient for Clinton! His presidency didn’t even become good until he had a Republican congress to clash with!

When the Democrats actually do something proactive instead of flexing muscles they don’t seem to have, that would be news. Tired of this cat and mouse game. It is like Tom and Jerry in Washington.

Sick of this government – what a fricking joke and an embarrasment!

Hating the Repukian mafia daily

Excuses. Show some guts.

Like you’re doing right now? I don’t see you doing anything but posting on a blog. Besides, you’re the last person around here who sould even be talking about “guts”. All I have to do to send you screaming like a little girl is to say I just took a crap on a Bible.

And I just did.

It gets worse. Gonzales may have backdated his appointment of Griffin, from Dec 18th to 15th, so that he could claim to have made the appointment before Pryor told him “No”. Hence, the weekend call to Cummins while he was on a hunting trip over the intervening weekend. See, thenexthurrah.typepad.com.

Regarding the status of Griffin’s appointment, a federal judge in Arkansas has apparently ruled that because Griffin has overstayed any 120-day temporary appointment, and the President has not submitted his name for Senate confirmation, then as a matter of law, he is the Attorney General’s appointment under the Patriot Act.

As the maxim goes, the law abhors a vacuum, and a judge’s job is to fill them where necessary and practicable. ‘Fredo and Shrub can’t have it both ways: they can’t pretend not to use the power they fought for so aggressively and silently, and yet do nothing about the pending needs of the administration of justice. Even if that’s what they want to do.

How many eligible voters in Florida were denied their legal right to vote in 2000 as a result of Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris misusing a database to purge supposed felons from the voter rolls? What percentage of those non-felons were African American? Had Bush and Harris been warned previously by the database company that the purge list had to be cross-checked because there were likely a lot of non-felons on it? Did they heed the warning?

How many ’spoiled’ ballots were thrown out and never counted in the 2004 election in Ohio? How many provisional ballots were thrown out and never counted in the 2004 election in Ohio? What is “caging” and how was it used to deny eligible African American residents serving in the military overseas the right to vote?

Why don’t you go find the answers to these questions before you start spouting a bunch of bullshit about the elections that you actually know very little about. We’ve got assholes like Rove pulling every imaginable scheme to suppress votes and rig the system before the election, and then we have ignorant jerks running around claiming it was all fair and above board afterwards. Try telling it to someone who doesn’t know better. Nobody’s buying that crap here.

You can’t put forth your partisan bickering and expect it to be treated at fact, can you?

I can put forth facts and expect them to be treated as such, but I suppose such an expectation is too high for you.

The election of 2000 was decided, President Bush won.

You’re half right. Chimpy didn’t win, but the election was certainly “decided”, wasn’t it?

Legal mumbo-jumbo may have done it, but our Supreme Court is tasked with that, aren’t they?

So you admit that Chimpy didn’t gain the White House as a result of a decision by the American public. I accept your apology.

As for the election of 2004: Absolutely no indicator that John Kerry would have won if there was actually any feasible case of Ohio. No chance in hell for Kerry.

Didn’t actually read the article I linked to for you, did you? Can’t say I’m surprised, although it is rather amusing, considering you felt the need to “make yourself clear” and claim you’ve “done all the research possible” in your opening paragraph.

Bush won the election, and he won FLORIDA with no controversy with that year, too.

Florida wasn’t the state in question in 2004. Try to keep up.

It’s absolutely relevant that Gore’s home state of Tennessee was lost. His own state lost confidence in him, so it’s indeed a healthy indicator.

Can’t be that “healthy an indicator”, seeing as how Florida, and the presidency, rightly belonged to him, as you admitted in your previous paragraph. It’s this sort of sloppy thinking that makes my question my decision to discuss this with you.

You’re [sic] attempted spin of my “Insult the voters” statement is quite useless, because that’s exactly what your [sic] doing. The voters cast their ballot, then afterward, you take a dispute of one state and blame it on all Republican voters for not giving you your exact pretty result.

OK, it’s official. You’re an idiot.

First of all, learn the difference between “you’re” and “your”.

Second, how am I “blaming it on all Republican voters”, you dolt? This dispute has NOTHING to do with the voters. Your continued yammering on this point is proof that you need not be taken seriously.

In conclusion, log off before you hurt yourself.

No, the Supreme court is not supposed to intervene in state matters during an election. Technically speaking though, this is not what they did although they effectively ended the recount and hence gave the election to Bush.

Note: In all of the recount scenarios that Gore was pushing for, Bush still would have won. However, in all thorough (meaning counting votes where the intent of the voter was clear statewide) recount scenarios Gore won.

It’s real simple, Daryll:

1.”Libs” are not all independently wealthy and/or retired and therefore don’t have a choice of just hopping in the car and driving out to D.C. to protest in front of Congress or the White House. Most have jobs and families they need to tend to.

2. Standing in front of a building and yelling is probably not the most effective way of getting your point across. However, sending thousands of letters and e-mails, and making phone calls to members of Congress are effective ways of doing it.

3. People read the blogs. Members of Congress, talk show hosts, and even White House staff read them. Blogs can put ideas out there that might very well end up as effective talking points. In fact, every idiotic piece of spin that comes out of Tony Snow’s mouth has been logically blown to hell by posts on this blog. Bullshit doesn’t stand a chance. Exposing it is a public service.

And you, Daryll, have been exposed as a serial bullshitter time and time again. You make a mockery of your religious beliefs and yourself every time you post here.

Comment by chimpeach — May 22, 2007 @ 12:14 pm

Excuses. Show some guts.

I’m not going to argue that Kerry should have won. He was a lousy candidate who ran a lousy campaign. However, there were serious discrepancies between exit poll numbers and offical count numbers. In some cases, these discrepanices exceeded those seen in the Ukraine in an election that the United Nations declared void. To ignore these, regardless of whether they affected the ultimate result of the election is very dangerous.

So winning the popular vote wasn’t a healthy enough indicator?