White House Quietly Planning ‘Second Surge’ To Double Escalation In Iraq By Christmas
White House Quietly Planning ‘Second Surge’ To Double Escalation In Iraq By Christmas
Providing further proof that President Bush’s escalation is hardly a short-term surge, Hearst Newspapers reports today that President Bush is quietly implementing a second Iraq troop surge that would “nearly double the number of combat troops in Iraq this year.”
According to the analysis of Pentagon redeployment numbers:
This “second surge” of troops in Iraq, which is being executed by extending tours for brigades already there and by deploying more units, could boost the number of combat troops to as many as 98,000 (from 52,500) by the end of this year. When support troops are included, the total number of U.S. troops in Iraq could increase from 162,000 now to more than 200,000 — the most ever — by the end of the year.
This escalation would bring the total number of brigades in Iraq to 28 by winter. In the current escalation, Bush ordered five brigades to accompany the 15 already stationed in Iraq.
While Bush proudly trumpeted the first escalation in January with a nationally televised address, he is reportedly keeping this one under wraps, not addressing it in any major public medium. “It doesn’t surprise me that they’re not talking about it. I think they would be very happy not to have any more attention paid to this,” said retired Army Maj. Gen. William Nash.
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Exactly where is he going to get these troops. He’s having a hard time finding the troops for this escalation. What is he going to do, tell everyone in Iraq that they are never going home until he says so.
We may just be witness to our first outright rebellion by the military. There is no way the “Generals on the ground” are going to support this. They will see no sense in sending more cannon fodder into Iraq. At least I sure hope they won’t see it as making sense.
We have a mad man as our President and we need to do something about it NOW, not in 2008.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmmy hat is off to george… he displays the most amazing chutzpah i’ve ever seen, so amazing, in fact, that it literally takes my breath away… can we please, please, PLEASE, get him and his fellow crooks and liars OUT OF OFFICE…?
And, yes, I DO take it personally
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmWhen does BushCo start conscription and send about 5 million troops there? The way Iraqis are fleeing the country we could soon have one soldier per Iraqi. Hey, why not just annex them as the 51st state? Solves that pesky immigration issue too and gets us back to $2/gal gasoline.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmIs anyone surprised? How much lying will it take to convince everyone that every drip out of this guy’s mouth is a fabrication?
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmI watched Apocolypto today, analogous to todays America.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmA free people enslaved for the insanity of the powerful.
Do you think that the only thing that will wake up the Sleeping Populace is the Draft? It worked in the 60’s.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmand the war goes on and on and on, and on……and on.
and on.
The reality is quite simple - no matter what they do, no matter how many people they kill, this foreign policy of aggression will not give the results that the politicians have promised us.
The only thing that can be guaranteed is quite simple - more people dead will mean more people will hate us - and thus, our safety will be reduced even more…
Wars do NOT bring peace. Some reading on this:
“Can America Bring Peace to the World?”
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:27 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ can_america_bring_peace_to_the_world
Great job Hearst Newspapers! Way to provide intelligence for the insurgents!
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmI’ll take megalomania for $1000 Alex.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmIf this is true, Bush is only doing what Democrats were asking him to do as late as December of 2006.
Reid, Pelosi, etc were all beggin the President to increase troop numbers in Iraq.
I even asked him to do this. I personally called him and asked him to do this.
I guess since he now agrees with us, we must be against this plan.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmGotta make sure they have enough soldiers in theater to take Iran on soon.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmI agree with you Katie and I will march, continue to send email’s and do all I can but to tell you the truth, after yesterday and the past few week’s I don’t see any result’s can come from all our work…We are being sold out by our own party, Impeachment was taken off the table as soon as we got them back in and now they have joined up with bushco and giving them all the fund’s and no limit’s on the Iraq bill..Were being used big time and they are farting around with stupid comittees and bill’s with no teeth….They should just go home for all the good they are doing..If they cared about our troop’s they would stop this, they are not and do not..No diffrence in Dem or. Rep this day…I’m looking at a diffrent party to back, hard and may work to boot this entire mess out…..Blessings
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmThe money now secured by the Congress,after an empty threats,noise and series of non-binding resolutions, Bush will start massing another bigger escaltion by end of the year and then comes for more money in the billions of dollars to the same Congress.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmThen, this Congress will make another noise…but nothing with teeth to bite…until Bush finally handles the keys of this war to a successor…assuming no other war with Iran is in the making.
My oh my, what happened to the Democrat controlled congress ending the war? I thought Nancy Pelosi was going “do the people’s will” and cut funding to the war budget, or AT LEAST receive a “pull out of Iraq” date from the White House. My oh my…… What will happen next?
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmHey, apparently it is okay for Bush to lie his head off.
The Democrats in Congress are going to give him a ‘blank check‘ for this surge and the next surge … war without end. Amen
And the Dems wonder why the poll numbers for the new Congress are already going down?
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pmAgrees with #12
This is now essentially the Democrats’ war too.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmGood. Kill the fascists bastards!
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmI hearded a a lot about…’No blank checks anymore by this Congress’, we were told,but it is apparent now Congress words that seem to end up in a blank.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:36 pmCaption:
“I don’t think anybody’s looking, I’ll just take a quick nip before we take off…..heh heh heh “
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:36 pmWatch for a nuke to go off in Iraq taking out our entire military, martial law gets declared at home, and shrubby president until 2020.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:36 pmPatrick1,
I totally agree with you for the first time ever. But the fascist bastards are surrounded by Secret Service in the White House.
Go ahead and give it a shot though.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:37 pmmy hat is off to george… he displays the most amazing chutzpah i’ve ever seen, so amazing, in fact, that it literally takes my breath away
Comment by profmarcus — May 22, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
I gotta agree with you, profmarcus. Every time I see circumstances lining up against him and what he wants to to do and I figure “he’s got to see reality now”, he takes his delusion up another notch and pushes onward into his imaginary Mary Poppins landscape as if it were real.
I KNOW that this can’t be sustained, and that the further he pushes, the worse his ultimate collapse will be, but the problem is, he’s dragging the rest of us along for the ride.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmNice Jim… be a smartass about it, while we slide further down the black-hole.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmPatrick in a bundle of fasces
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmI wonder if Congress knows about this as they’re negotiating the current round of funding.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmThis is all about Iran.
Iran Iran Iran.
Christ! Even AJ Soprano knows we are going to nuke Iran.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmThe only way to end the war during before the election is through impeachment. IMPEACH NOW!
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmApparently Iraq will be the forward staging area for the Iran invasion.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:40 pm** So, I guess the surge isn’t working as planned. **
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmTHANK YOU, Hearst Newspapers,
for EXPOSING the TREASONOUS ACTS of BushCrimeCo.
Please continue to do so, as it is YOUR PATRIOTIC DUTY.
God Bless America, SUBPOENAS, IMPEACHMENT and the WORLD!!!
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:41 pmDidn’t Cheney say that insurgency in Iraq in the last throes?
That was exactly 2 years ago in May of 2005 when Cheney said that.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:43 pmCaption contest:
My poll numbers just got flushed down the what??
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:43 pmWell, that would finish the transformation of the war into Iraq into an actual complete repetition of Vietnam. The only missing element was troop levels.
We’ll still lose. Foreigners don’t like to be occupied, and they’ll continue fighting if it takes a thousand years. And we’ll lose many more young lives in this vain and criminal effort.
It’s a shame the Dems are caving. Now, Bush is Nixon, and the Dems are LBJ.
We need to throw all the bums out.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmI HAVE HAD IT WITH THE DEMOCRATS!
They will not get my money until they end the war now! If it means that career politicians from the Democratic Party are outsted in 2008, so be it!
I just emailed both Reid and Pelosi my disappointment with their SPINELESS and wimpy actions. They too are the “party of CASH” and if they can’t respond to We The People, it’s time to remove them, too.
email addresses:
AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
http://reid.senate.gov/contact/email_form.cfm
Call Pelosi and LET HER HAVE IT.
1-202-225-0100
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! End this war now! Or else they will have hell to pay in the November 2008 elections.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmall this from a guy who was too chicken to serve his own country (I can’t get past that fact)…..he couldn’t even show up for his Reserves dental exam…..candyass in chief…
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmThis is all a build up for the forthcoming carnage for war with Iran. King George doen’t plan on LEAVING office.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:47 pmDidn’t Cheney say that insurgency in Iraq in the last throes?
That was exactly 2 years ago in May of 2005 when Cheney said that.
Comment by tarazan
He said “throws”. Like in rugs. All he meant was that they were running out of throw rugs. However, they are now being supplied with plenty of rugs from Iran.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmThat’s why the Pentagon asked for such a large amount in Occupation Funds in the latest ‘emergency funding’ bill for Iraq.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:50 pmNow we know how the Lost Tribes of Israel became lost. King W Herod sent them as a “surge” to secure Babylon. It was known as the Slaughter of the Innocent Brigades.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmTP,
Why wont you post my comment?
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmIran will be very ugly thanks to BushCo. pissing off Russia. Think Iran is getting the latest Russian weapons ? You bet.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pmYeah, so? More troops? Sure, fine–why not? Bush gets whatever he wants and the Democrats elected to hold him to some kind of accountability and to rein in his unconscionable war in Iraq blithely let him do whatever he wants.
I’m exhausted with the outrage. A pox on the White House and a pox on both houses of Congress. I give up.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pmMay be GRAVEL/RON PAUL ticket will do it next time…in 2008
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pmhttp://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ POLITICS/ 05/ 22/ war.funding/ index.html
And Bush wins. How dare he?! how dare he?!
We Democratic politicians are smarter than him!!
How dare he win this round?!
Stupid Reid and Pelosi. Not the leaders I was, eh?
never give in, never surrender.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:54 pmCaption:
“No Jeffy, I think the blue stockings go best with the cowboy hat. Be right there darlin’”
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:54 pmI just met another vet back from Iraq…After our conversation and all he told me I am ashamed to be an american, disgusted with all polatician’s including the dem’s for caving… From the word’s of this vet to you,” their funding just progressed the war and million’s more men, women and children over there along with our troop’s will die”…”Why didn’t they do what they said they would do”? bring our troop’s home and stop funding…He was devastated and so am I.
I took my flag down…..I hate what these murderious basterd’s are doing, all of them…Shame on them all…
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:55 pmCaption contest:
“I’ll just keep Saddam’s pistol here in the top drawer, in case there’s any turbulence…”
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:56 pmDemocrats has been THE MAJORITY in Congress since January….any change?!!
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:56 pmHe is placing troops there for his soon to be attack on Iran, never trust anything this rat says.
Fake Clinton-don’t quit your job at the Supermart as bagger, you are not funny, and fail as a comedian. Hint-only you are laughing.
Hating the inbreed lowlife Repukian Mafia daily
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:57 pmTHERES WORSE TO COME READ THIS
Iran’s secret plan for summer offensive to force US out of Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ frontpage/ story/ 0,,2085195,00.html
Iran is secretly forging ties with al-Qaida elements and Sunni Arab militias in Iraq in preparation for a summer showdown with coalition forces intended to tip a wavering US Congress into voting for full military withdrawal, US officials say.
“Iran is fighting a proxy war in Iraq and it’s a very dangerous course for them to be following. They are already committing daily acts of war against US and British forces,” a senior US official in Baghdad warned. “They [Iran] are behind a lot of high-profile attacks meant to undermine US will and British will, such as the rocket attacks on Basra palace and the Green Zone [in Baghdad]. The attacks are directed by the Revolutionary Guard who are connected right to the top [of the Iranian government].”
LOOKS LIKE IRAN AINT WAITING FOR YOU
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:01 pmOMFG!
Did I not post this on this morning’s Think Fast?!!?
This is the second time this week that’s happened.
You are really getting weak, TP. UGH.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:01 pmWhich part of Lying Sack of Shit don’t you understand?
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 pmtrueblue,
want a cookie?
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:04 pmWithdrawal timetable dropped from war spending bill
http://www.cnn.com/ POLITICS/ blogs/ politicalticker/ 2007/ 05/ withdrawal-timetable-dropped-from-war.html
________
I’ll say it again, this is unacceptable! Putting a minimum wage increase in the bill will do nothing to placate me, or many other Democrats that worked so hard to help you win in Nov.
“said Rep. Joe Baca, ‘But we realize too we have a responsibility to fund our troops and make sure they have the right equipment.’” You honored your responsibility by funding the troops in the bill bush vetoed. It is not for the Dems to take on the burden of someone else’s disregard for doing what is right.
The most honorable move right now is to send back the same bill bush vetoed, over and over again until he realizes (along with the intellectually dead American public) that it will be BUSH withholding the funds from our troops.
It is becoming all too clear that you are kicking the ball down the field to use the Iraq war for political gain. THIS WILL NOT WORK! You will lose the support of the people who put you there! Stop playing games and honor your commitment, get us OUT OF IRAQ!
I’m not donating another penny to individual Democratic candidates until I see progress on our investment.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmTobey - some senior US offical uh? If you haven’t been paying attention, this administration LIES constantly for it’s own agenda. First question the information, second get evidence, real evidence not cooked up Bush/Cheney type evidence, and NEVER believe anything these criminals tell you.
Hating the Repukian Mafia daily
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmSend Ms. Pelosi an e-mail and tell her what you think about the Democrats caving into Bush. http://www.speaker.gov/contact/. Anyone besides me want to petition Russ Feingold to start a new party, the Progressive Party? I will be the first to join.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmNo, Barbarian,
I want TP to get with it.
Not sit in a story for 6 hours before passing it on to the readers.
That clear enough for you, dickhead?
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmThis is from the Guardian newspaper not Fox news - Buck Fush
THERES WORSE TO COME READ THIS
Iran’s secret plan for summer offensive to force US out of Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ frontpage/ story/ 0,,2085195,00.html
Iran is secretly forging ties with al-Qaida elements and Sunni Arab militias in Iraq in preparation for a summer showdown with coalition forces intended to tip a wavering US Congress into voting for full military withdrawal, US officials say.
“Iran is fighting a proxy war in Iraq and it’s a very dangerous course for them to be following. They are already committing daily acts of war against US and British forces,†a senior US official in Baghdad warned. “They [Iran] are behind a lot of high-profile attacks meant to undermine US will and British will, such as the rocket attacks on Basra palace and the Green Zone [in Baghdad]. The attacks are directed by the Revolutionary Guard who are connected right to the top [of the Iranian government].â€
LOOKS LIKE IRAN AINT WAITING FOR YOU
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmThis happened with the last bill.
Some staffers put out the story that the Democrats had folded, much wailing and rending of garments among anti-war Democrats in and out of Congress ensued, the leadership renounced the theoretical bill, and ended up passing one that Bush found so offensive that he vetoed it.
Look closely at those news stories reporting this deal. See any names attached to the reports?
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:09 pmBuck Fush - I really hate Bush too , for Ken livingston the LONDON MAYOR to say on TV 4 years ago that Bush is the biggest threat ever Known to mankind -
I Believed Ken Livingston Years Ago . Bush is a Dumb bag of shit
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:10 pmI’m done with TP.
Good luck all.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:13 pmThe strategy is to build up the number of troops until the end of this year. After the first of the year and until the election, we are going to endlessly hear how much better things are in Iraq and that they are beginning to bring the troops home. With fewer troops and less exposure, the deaths will decrease. By the election, we will be back down to the number of trrops in Iraq that existed before the “surge.” But they can claim that they are “withdrawing.”
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:14 pmI get alot of my news from them too, but it is the SENIOR US OFFICAL with no name attached that makes it suspect, who said it and is it credible.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:15 pmAnd I do understand your concern on this, as does everyone that is paying attention to it.
Billshit, Tobey. It’s 2007, and you still believe everything you read.
Iran is not working with al Qaeda. Iran and al Qaeda are mortal enemies. Al Qaeda stages terrorist attacks against Iranian, and Shiite, interests. The blew up Shiite mosques in Pakistan and Iraq. Taliban and al Qaeda fighters slaughtered the Iranian embassy staff when they took Kabul in the 1990s. Al Qaeda considers Shiites to be heretics. The only al Qaeda-linked group in Iraq prior to this war, Ansar al-Islam, operated out of Kurdish territory, and launched attacks on Iran.
Do you remember the discredited theories about Saddam and al Qaeda working together, that made the rounds back in 2002? This is even dumber.
You can’t just conclude that, because they’re Muslims and bad guys, they must be bestest buddies. It doesn’t work like that. The fact that you people make a point of not learning lessons about the actual threat we face is why the public has turned to the Democrats to lead the fight against al Qaeda.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmOops, sorry, Tobey, I seem to have misread your meaning.
That’s not a credible story. They’re just trying to link al Qaeda to their latest enemy du jour, like they did with Saddam.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:19 pmAh, Tobey Tall, better read that UK Guardian story again. The source is “US officials say”.
In other words, this is White House propaganda to make their surge look good and reasonable. It more crap like the anonymous US military experts who pretended to have captured Iranian arms in Iraq. It’s just more fudging of the intelligence to justify expanding this war.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:20 pmRocks911,
Yes, TP is incredibly frustrating.
I find I need to take breaks from the site, because of the frustration level.
There’s a lot more news out there.
Just don’t give up totally. We posters care about what you have to say.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:22 pmAgain I’m with you Katie, tell me where to sign up but first let’s see all his bonafieies and just where he stand’s….Kuchenich has been against the war from the get go and like him but don’t think he will get the nod..Also there are some other parties out there to look at..Blessings
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:23 pm911ROCKS . would like to know what you were trying to post. your posts and links are usually interesting.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmThat article is in TODAYS Guardian newspaper I have spoken to the editor in the past giving them stories I have found , The Guardian is about the most accurate newspaper in the planet that are not scared to publish news
If the Guardian print a HEAVY HEAVY story like this then they would have a source NOT goverment connected
Why should Iran wait for an Attack - the best form of defense is attack sometimes
IM NOT THINKING EITHER WAY IM JUST CONCERNED THAT THIS NEWS COULD BE TRUE
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:27 pmdavid , Joe - - Ok sorry everyone never noticed that bit “US officials sayâ€. Now im pissed the Guardian would print such a story ……….
cant win em all - apologies no harm meant Just news
by god I wish I never found that today
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:29 pmThere doesnt need to be a draft to add more troops and there wont be. We are adding “troops” on a daily basis. The only hitch is they are privatized “contractors” in the form of blackwater et all.
When is the world going to take notice that a new private commercial miltary force is taking shape.
A force that is not held back to the constraints of the geneva convention, or other checks and balances accords and agreements.
A force that currently numbers nearly the same size as the US military force numbers.
A Military force bought and paid for by the US taxpayers and other coalition funds but with no Allegiance, accountability or indebtedness to the Peoples goals or service.
Better equipped less restrained and completely privatized.
A force capable in the wrong hands of even Militarily enforcing regime change in our own United States let alone other countries and regimes.
Couple that with a prison system operating outside the Rule of Law run by the same Commercial interests.
The seizure of resources , both natural and monetary. and the establishment of entrenchments, fortresses and strategically located geographical seizures and you now have a non-geographically centered sovereign state operating at a scale much larger than most of the worlds superpowers.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:34 pmWhen is the world going to wake up to the fact that we are at the endgame of a 35 year old coup and the target isn’t the middle east its a land war in china.
Want to discuss it more: ThatBozGuy@a o l.com Remove the spaces
My oh my…… What will happen next?
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM — May 22, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
More US Troops and Iraqi lives, limbs and minds will be completely wasted in a war waged against an enemy that was never a threat to the US, while overextending our military and allowing further strikes by the same groups that hit us on Sept 11
But hey, other than that, W’s “Screw Iraq, Let Usama bin Laden get away with murder” strategy is sure doing a real bang-up job
“Mission Accomplished” Indeed!
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:44 pmGet rid of language preventing an attack on Iran. check.
Get rid of funding for Domestic spending to protect the country. check.
Get rid of mandatory requirements to fully train and equip the troops. check.
Get rid of even non-binding timelines. pending.
Get funding for the surge. pending.
Attack Iran. pending.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:45 pm#48
> “Iran is secretly forging ties with al-Qaida elements”
Wuh? Duh?
Not believable. Aha, it’s “US officials” who are saying so.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:47 pmMore proof please.
Hearst Newspapers made pot illegal.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:49 pm200,000 troops out of the country, one year before he has to give up his “toys”, he declares Martial Law and becomes the AHIC…Ass hole in charge. What were the latest documents he signed??????
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:51 pmGeorge the Dim’s Plan: “Well at first people said we did not have enough troops in this war and we told them that was bullshit. Well, it turns out we should have had more troops but can’t very well admit that now can we, heh. So we will send them in waves and we call them, um, ah, ohhh, call them surges, sounds more manly than pussy “waves”. Okay, the Commander Guy has spoken. Y’all get the hell outa my office.”
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:53 pmBush is sending a big f%ck you! to the 70% of us who want our troops to come home. He wants to maximize the number of young men and women who die for his vanity.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:56 pmBush is sending a big f%ck you! to the 70% of us who want our troops to come home. He wants to maximize the number of young men and women who die for his vanity.
Comment by Publicus
And obviously the congress we were counting on is doing the exact same thing. Interesting that none of them seems to care what we think.
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:08 pmCaption:
‘According to our records “My Pet Goat” Is out until Wednesday.Would you like to reseve it?’
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:24 pmNope! They don’t care so we are on our own to form a new party or join up with a suitable one already in place….Either way we have lot’s of work to do..Some underling is reading my scathing email’s to Palosi, Reid and my state Representatives…Probably will delet e them and say to them selves she’s just a 70% er, doesn’t count….Gonna be interesting how this goes…Lot’s more bad before we see any good, no matter what…Blessings
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:32 pmOne step in the right direction, too little and too late I fear.
I hate the binary ‘choice’ our political handlers have managed out of the Iraq quagmire. On the right, we have ‘We’re doing well, trust us, things are progressing blah blah’ and on the left we have ‘You suck at this, the war is illegal, we have to get out now’.
Missing is what I’d like to see - besides going back in time and having GWB NOT invade.
A massive escalation, 3-500,000 troops, and free press (actually interested in research)
We owe the Iraqis, and the region, stability to the best of our abilities. GWB isn’t capable of doing the right thing, if the Democrats want my support they need to do the right thing which is to undo to the best of our ability the damage GWB has done. Not leave them in the vacuum we created and watch from Kurdistan. Give them stability and dignity and help building an economy.
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:38 pmblofg in when you get to Tikrit jd and let us know how it is going until then shut your pie hole. Crackheads….what are you going to do with them?
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:47 pmblofg in when you get to Tikrit jd and let us know how it is going until then shut your pie hole. Crackheads….what are you going to do with them?
I think what we did in Iraq is horrible, and I think we should do our best to undo it. Leaving the mess that we made is cowardly.
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:51 pm#83 Yes you want to send 300,000 - 500, 000 fellow Americans into an illegal and unethical meatgrinder but you are not going.
And you yet drivel spills forth with no credibility or merit. You can understand why any subsequent assertion or opinion is deemed comedy right?
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:55 pm#81 We owe the Iraqis, and the region, stability to the best of our abilities. GWB isn’t capable of doing the right thing, if the Democrats want my support they need to do the right thing which is to undo to the best of our ability the damage GWB has done.
Ignorance is bliss sitting from your cushy lazyboy isn’t it? So ignorant so devoid of objective facts.
Here are some cold stark truths
1. They do not want us there
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:58 pm2. They do not want your assistance
3. They despise you and loathe your occupation
4. Nothing can be done to ‘fix it’
Of course it’s an illegal and unethical meatgrinder.
Of course they do not want us there and loathe our occupation.
Who said I’m not going?
Got any more strawmen to knock down gents?
Iraq is a disaster, a criminal war. What the US has done is criminal. The Iraqis are justified in hating us and wanting us to leave. They have no reason to believe the US can do anything to help them and that our continued presence there will only make things worse. More killed, more tortured, stolen, burned, humiliated and degraded. There is no law beside the law of the dollar and the gun in Iraq, we have infected their country with chaos, death and dishonor.
So we should just leave now? Seriously? And say what, “sorry, that was the Republicans, GWB and his cronies, not us, good luck with the crap we left”
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmOr should we tell them, “Well, we never really declared war, we think it’s illegal anyway, so we can’t really justify being here” or how about “GWB tried for years and he couldn’t get it right, what makes you think we can?”
We could blame them, “Polls show you don’t want us here, so we’re leaving”
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:22 pmor we could blame us “Polls show we don’t want to be there so we’re leaving”
I’ve never, EVER prayed for someone to die and I abhor violence. But please, Lord, just two well-placed lightning bolts would do the trick…
Impeachment is still the best solution–we can’t let these clowns set a precedent for future administrations…
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:48 pmIf we weren’t living in such a civilized (or is it apathetic?) time Bush would be facing an organized rebellion for this shit.
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:48 pmI think that the only responsible thing for Bush and Cheney to do is to each lead one of these future combat brigades into battle in Iraq. Afterall, they are responsible for the deaths of more than three and a half thousand brave Americans to date, a category I would not place either of them in!
May 22nd, 2007 at 7:28 pmIf at first you don’t succeed….Surge, Surge Again.
Dems, please tell me WHY you seem to be unwilling to stop this madman. Even looking at this picture is a big fat clue that there is something wrong with him. What normal, sane adult male would dress up like an astronut(sic) to get his picture made ?
Enough is enough Dems. We gave you power, now use it !!!
May 22nd, 2007 at 8:10 pmHe could only be colluding with some foreign country to take us over. This would leave the “homeland” defenses compromised and the armed forces stretched way too thin.
May 22nd, 2007 at 8:48 pmWHY DOES OUR PRESIDENT ALWAYS WEAR CLOTHING WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL EMBLEM ON THEM ? iS IS SO HE CAN REMEMBER WHO HE IS ?
May 23rd, 2007 at 12:21 am