Comments on: Did Gonzales Obstruct Justice By Attempting To ‘Shape’ Goodling’s Testimony? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:52:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: red dog http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3821173 red dog Thu, 24 May 2007 22:58:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3821173 the dems need to start prosecuting some of these neo-cons. then you will see a whole bunch of them start snitching. didnt gonzo commit purgery twice already? thats a good place to start. Prosecute Now! the dems need to start prosecuting some of these neo-cons. then you will see a whole bunch of them start snitching. didnt gonzo commit purgery twice already? thats a good place to start. Prosecute Now!

]]> By: David http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819839 David Thu, 24 May 2007 14:18:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819839 Everyone keep forgetting the main plank of the Republican party: The law does not apply to us. Any law. Ever. How do we expect them to obey the law when they are immune to it? Geeze, give 'em a break. Everyone keep forgetting the main plank of the Republican party: The law does not apply to us. Any law. Ever.

How do we expect them to obey the law when they are immune to it?

Geeze, give ‘em a break.

]]> By: john o. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819647 john o. Thu, 24 May 2007 11:00:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819647 It's difficult to decide who is more stupid here -- Gonzo or her. But they clearly were working to carpenter a consistent story. It’s difficult to decide who is more stupid here — Gonzo or her. But they clearly were working to carpenter a consistent story.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819482 Marie Thu, 24 May 2007 04:27:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819482 Of course, he was tampering with the witness. He says he was "comforting her" but he was actually telling her what to say and what he was going to say. Lawyers must be having fits over this -- Gonzo is not only incompetent and over his head; he has broken the law with his witness tampering his lies before Congress and his willingness to subvert the Constitution. Impeachment is not sufficient. After he is impeached, he should be held for trial. (I am not holding my breath) Of course, he was tampering with the witness. He says he was “comforting her” but he was actually telling her what to say and what he was going to say.
Lawyers must be having fits over this — Gonzo is not only incompetent and over his head; he has broken the law with his witness tampering his lies before Congress and his willingness to subvert the Constitution.

Impeachment is not sufficient. After he is impeached, he should be held for trial.

(I am not holding my breath)

]]> By: HeckuvahJob Brownie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819356 HeckuvahJob Brownie Thu, 24 May 2007 03:32:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819356 #33, I like the disbarment idea. By the way, you don't need to be an attorney to file a complaint. And while where at it, I'd like to see the president dis-MBA'd too.... The would really put an end to this corruption. #33, I like the disbarment idea.

By the way, you don’t need to be an attorney to file a complaint.

And while where at it, I’d like to see the president dis-MBA’d too….

The would really put an end to this corruption.

]]> By: the republic of stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819346 the republic of stupidity Thu, 24 May 2007 03:25:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819346 This is clearly the Rescumlican tactic du jour - Gum it to death! Talk about circle jerks... he said that she heard that they told someone that no one knew who might or might not have done it... These creeps look more and more like a Racketeer Influenced and Criminal Organization everyday. Oh, oh, wait a minute... that means... (drum role) ...it's time for RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! This is clearly the Rescumlican tactic du jour – Gum it to death!

Talk about circle jerks… he said that she heard that they told someone that no one knew who might or might not have done it…

These creeps look more and more like a Racketeer Influenced and Criminal Organization everyday. Oh, oh, wait a minute… that means… (drum role)

…it’s time for RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO!

]]> By: buck http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819344 buck Thu, 24 May 2007 03:23:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819344 Any lawyers reading this? I'll keep saying this one word until it happens--disbarment! File ethics violations against Goodling, Gonzales, Sampson, Elston, Mercer, Jennings, Schlozman and anyone else who was involved, perhaps even McNulty and Battle, although I see those two as peripheral players who followed orders that they could not have known to have been illegal. Remember, they cannot hold any prosecutorial or counsel offices if they have no law license. So, no more AG, not more USAtt, no more White House Counsel, etc. Ethical standards for prosecutors are even higher than for judges and certainly higher than for politicians (since politicians are effectively self-[non]-policing). What may not rise to a prosecutable crime may still get quite a few of this bunch disbarred. Don't forget that Sandy Burger agreed to surrender his law license essentially permanently, Bill Clinton lost his for a year. This is not a minor technicality we are talking about--this can and should ruin their careers. Just wishing that it were prosecutable will not make it happen. But filing a complaint with the ABA and state bar associations will achieve similar results (sans prison time) and will be, potentially, more embarrassing, since the "prosecution" would be professional and not political. Any lawyers reading this? I’ll keep saying this one word until it happens–disbarment! File ethics violations against Goodling, Gonzales, Sampson, Elston, Mercer, Jennings, Schlozman and anyone else who was involved, perhaps even McNulty and Battle, although I see those two as peripheral players who followed orders that they could not have known to have been illegal. Remember, they cannot hold any prosecutorial or counsel offices if they have no law license. So, no more AG, not more USAtt, no more White House Counsel, etc.

Ethical standards for prosecutors are even higher than for judges and certainly higher than for politicians (since politicians are effectively self-[non]-policing). What may not rise to a prosecutable crime may still get quite a few of this bunch disbarred.

Don’t forget that Sandy Burger agreed to surrender his law license essentially permanently, Bill Clinton lost his for a year. This is not a minor technicality we are talking about–this can and should ruin their careers. Just wishing that it were prosecutable will not make it happen. But filing a complaint with the ABA and state bar associations will achieve similar results (sans prison time) and will be, potentially, more embarrassing, since the “prosecution” would be professional and not political.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819325 Jay Randal Thu, 24 May 2007 03:12:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819325 Well Gonzales deserves the 5 years of imprisonment the statute calls for! Well Gonzales deserves the 5 years of imprisonment the statute calls for!

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819319 JPark Thu, 24 May 2007 03:07:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819319 I think Frist would say. ITS ALLLLIIIIIIIVVVVVE. I think Frist would say. ITS ALLLLIIIIIIIVVVVVE.

]]> By: HeckuvahJob Brownie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819311 HeckuvahJob Brownie Thu, 24 May 2007 03:04:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819311 During Clinton's impeachment trial, Bill Frist said that "there is no reasonable doubt that this meeting was an attempt by President Clinton to coach Ms. Currie's probable testimony" when Mr. Clinton told Ms. Currie "We were never really alone," etc. Statement of Sen. Frist (R-Tenn.) from the Senate's closed deliberations on the articles of impeachment against President Clinton, excerpts of which senators were allowed to publish in the Congressional Record for Friday, Feb. 12. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/fristtext021399.htm What would Bill Frist say now?? During Clinton’s impeachment trial, Bill Frist said that “there is no reasonable doubt that this meeting was an attempt by President Clinton to coach Ms. Currie’s probable testimony” when Mr. Clinton told Ms. Currie “We were never really alone,” etc.

Statement of Sen. Frist (R-Tenn.) from the Senate’s closed deliberations on the articles of impeachment against President Clinton, excerpts of which senators were allowed to publish in the Congressional Record for Friday, Feb. 12. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/fristtext021399.htm

What would Bill Frist say now??

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819261 big papa Thu, 24 May 2007 02:36:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819261 The very FACT... ...of Monica Goodling's LACK of qualifications for her position at DOJ... ...is proof positive... ...that the criminal Bushite junta is/has been attempting to DESTROY... ...the government of the United States of America... ..."starving the beast"... ...a CONSERVATIVE right wing ideology... ...If you don't believe... ...look into the lack of qualifications of Bush appointees... ...throughout any number of government agencies... ...starting with "Heckuva job" Brownie formerly of FEMA... ...Bush is a TRAITOR! The very FACT…

…of Monica Goodling’s LACK of qualifications for her position at DOJ…

…is proof positive…

…that the criminal Bushite junta is/has been attempting to DESTROY…

…the government of the United States of America…

…”starving the beast”…

…a CONSERVATIVE right wing ideology…

…If you don’t believe…

…look into the lack of qualifications of Bush appointees…

…throughout any number of government agencies…

…starting with “Heckuva job” Brownie formerly of FEMA…

…Bush is a TRAITOR!

]]> By: Karim http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819250 Karim Thu, 24 May 2007 02:26:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819250 I smell impeachment for Gonzales. I smell impeachment for Gonzales.

]]> By: the republic of stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819230 the republic of stupidity Thu, 24 May 2007 02:13:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819230 Of course he freakin' did. Has there been a single, solitary moment in this Admin's history when they didn't lie, steal, or break the law? Of course he freakin’ did. Has there been a single, solitary moment in this Admin’s history when they didn’t lie, steal, or break the law?

]]> By: Fools on the Hill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819211 Fools on the Hill Thu, 24 May 2007 01:59:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819211 I'll bet she was thinking she could end up being the next Valarie Plame with Cheney and his thugs blaming everything on her. Not that she is innocent but it seems those above her were making the decisions and getting orders from the White House. I’ll bet she was thinking she could end up being the next Valarie Plame with Cheney and his thugs blaming everything on her. Not that she is innocent but it seems those above her were making the decisions and getting orders from the White House.

]]> By: Patrick http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819176 Patrick Thu, 24 May 2007 01:36:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819176 in #22 I was just answering the question posed by the TP headline whether or not Gonzo obstructed justice. So did chimpy and shooter. I'm even more pissed off at the democrats in the congress tonight. I swear to God I will vote for any other dem who opposes them in the next election. Boxer/Feinstein/Eshoo I'm tired of writing...you're no better than the chimpy leg humpers who have given this imbecile a free pass since Jan. 01. in #22 I was just answering the question posed by the TP headline whether or not Gonzo obstructed justice. So did chimpy and shooter.

I’m even more pissed off at the democrats in the congress tonight. I swear to God I will vote for any other dem who opposes them in the next election. Boxer/Feinstein/Eshoo I’m tired of writing…you’re no better than the chimpy leg humpers who have given this imbecile a free pass since Jan. 01.

]]> By: Angry One http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819171 Angry One Thu, 24 May 2007 01:33:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819171 In her testimony today before the House Judiciary Committee, former DOJ White House liaison Monica Goodling joined Alberto Gonzales, Kyle Sampson and Paul McNulty in disclaiming any role in the creation of the infamous list of U.S. attorneys to be fired. It should comes as no surprise that the graduate of Regent University law school would have us believe the list so central to the prosecutors purge appeared magically, untouched by the hands of man. Call it Immaculate Conception. For the details, see: <b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000626.htm" rel="nofollow">"Monica Goodling's Immaculate Conception."</a></b> In her testimony today before the House Judiciary Committee, former DOJ White House liaison Monica Goodling joined Alberto Gonzales, Kyle Sampson and Paul McNulty in disclaiming any role in the creation of the infamous list of U.S. attorneys to be fired. It should comes as no surprise that the graduate of Regent University law school would have us believe the list so central to the prosecutors purge appeared magically, untouched by the hands of man. Call it Immaculate Conception.

For the details, see:
“Monica Goodling’s Immaculate Conception.”

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819170 big papa Thu, 24 May 2007 01:32:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819170 Witness tampering obstruction of justice lying to Congress under oath TREASON ...this no good al Ceeracka Bushite... ...sure has a lot of "credit" with the DUHmerikkkan public... ...they aren't SCREAMING for their Repulsivescum representatives... ...to force his resignation... ...the right wing Repulsivescum/Independent/Democrat conned'selfserving inbred Bushites... ... LOVE their gods Bushiva and L'il Dick... ...more than the Rule of Law and the Constitution... Witness tampering
obstruction of justice
lying to Congress under oath
TREASON

…this no good al Ceeracka Bushite…

…sure has a lot of “credit” with the DUHmerikkkan public…

…they aren’t SCREAMING for their Repulsivescum representatives…

…to force his resignation…

…the right wing Repulsivescum/Independent/Democrat conned’selfserving inbred Bushites…

… LOVE their gods Bushiva and L’il Dick…

…more than the Rule of Law and the Constitution…

]]> By: Patrick http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819160 Patrick Thu, 24 May 2007 01:25:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819160 Yes Yes

]]> By: hauksdottir http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819157 hauksdottir Thu, 24 May 2007 01:22:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819157 Mr "I don't recollect" and "I don't remember" and "I don't recall" was laying out step-by-step for her <strong>what he remembered</strong>? Did the august committee ask Goodling if what Abu remembered that day was more complete than what he remembered in the witness seat? She has been carefully groomed and carefully coached, but no veneer can hide the hardness of her face. This is no innocent staked out before the wolves, but a steel trap to slow down the investigation into the real corruption. Mr “I don’t recollect” and “I don’t remember” and “I don’t recall” was laying out step-by-step for her what he remembered?

Did the august committee ask Goodling if what Abu remembered that day was more complete than what he remembered in the witness seat?

She has been carefully groomed and carefully coached, but no veneer can hide the hardness of her face. This is no innocent staked out before the wolves, but a steel trap to slow down the investigation into the real corruption.

]]> By: Coffins Draped with Flags http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3819144 Coffins Draped with Flags Thu, 24 May 2007 01:11:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/gonzales-obstruction/#comment-3819144 Nancy, It is sad for her. Her family indoctrinated her with these silly fundamentalist values and sent her off to some 4th rated college that focused on religion and not on the law. If she had been my daughter, she would not have found herself sitting in front of Congress with republics masterbating while they patronized her and Democrats trying to get at the truth. Nancy,

It is sad for her. Her family indoctrinated her with these silly fundamentalist values and sent her off to some 4th rated college that focused on religion and not on the law. If she had been my daughter, she would not have found herself sitting in front of Congress with republics masterbating while they patronized her and Democrats trying to get at the truth.

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