‘Pro-Life’ Activist: Birth Control Is A ‘Pesticide’ That Will Make Women Just ‘Like Men’
‘Pro-Life’ Activist: Birth Control Is A ‘Pesticide’ That Will Make Women Just ‘Like Men’
On Tuesday, the Food and Drug Administration “approved the first birth control pill that eliminates a woman’s monthly period.”
Yesterday on Fox News’s Your World With Neil Cavuto, Leslee Unruh, president of the National Abstinence Clearinghouse, argued that this pill a “pesticide” that will make women “like men.” She called it an “attack on children and families,” ending the segment with shouts of, “I want more babies. More babies. We love babies.” Watch it:
As Mary Alice Carr from NARAL pointed out, 98 percent of American women will use contraception at some point in their lives. No one is forcing women to use this form of birth control. This pill will not prevent women from ever having children, and will help women who find their periods too painful. Many medical professionals believe that “menstrual suppression could have some health benefits.”
Unruh led the fight for the “nation’s most sweeping abortion ban” in South Dakota in 2006, and her Abstinence Clearinghouse receives funding from the federal government. In 2001, Unruh said that she has received “nothing but support from the Bush administration.”
(HT: The Blue State)
Transcript:
UNRUH: This is a real war on women and war on children and it’s a gift to be able to have children. And our fertility is precious to us. And we do not need Big Pharma, National Abortion Rights Action League, who have had a war on children and on babies, to now come in with another drug and to play G-d.
…CAVUTO: But this isn’t an abortion or not related pill to you, this is just sortof a personal choice kind of a pill?
CARR: Sure, 98% of American women at some point in their lives use contraception. This is not something to disagree on. Leslie’s the one whose way out there on the side on this. Ask anyone.
UNRUH: Oh oh oh [Unintelligible]. Let me tell you about way out there. Way out there is playing G-d, Way out there is wanting us, women, who are feminine and have fertility and it’s something to celebrate, wanting us to be like men, c’mon!
…
CARR: I mean, I think the absolute reality is that families decide among themselves when they’re best able to have a child, when they’re best able to bring another child into their lives.
CAVUTO: You don’t think as some of the reports are that this drug goes too far and will make that an option that’s out–
CARR: It doesn’t do anything other than any other birth control pill does, except help women that have maybe menstrual periods that cause them a lot of pain, they have endometriosis, they have a lot of issues where their period every month is actually a problem for them. This actually would help them to actually avoid that pain.
UNRUH: Lies, lies, lies, lies, and more lies.
CAVUTO: Why are you saying that Leslie?
Planned Parenthood and NARAL have been out there trying to control women for many years. And fertility is a gift, it’s a wonderful thing. We need to celebrate our fertility, there are so many women that want to have children and the last thing they need is Big Pharma, Big Pharma, pesticides being put into our bodies.
CARR: And they can when they want to have those children, Leslie!
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CARR: “I think that the very best thing we have to do in this country is find a way to bring down the unintended pregnancy rate, which leads to bringing the abortion rate, and the best way to do that is birth control.”
CAVUTO: Well this is the magic pill to do just that, right? But this is the magic pill to do that, right?
CARR: The best way to do that is birth control. And I want to know why people like Leslie–
CAVUTO: So, 12, 13-year-old girls taking this like chicklets would be okay?
CARR: Absolutely. What you’re saying here is actually–you’re going to make me crazy on here–what we’re saying is let’s reduce unintended pregnancy. Let’s reduce teen pregnancy. Let’s reduce the abortion rate in this country.
UNRUH: Big Pharma, here we go again, attack on children and families and on women. I want more babies. More babies. We love babies.
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uh oh, danger scare, scare, danger fear fear fear!
or was that blah blah blah blah? That’s more like what Neil Cavuto usually says.
May 24th, 2007 at 3:47 pmWell, if she wants more babies, she should find a guy that will f**k her so she can have more babies…
May 24th, 2007 at 3:48 pmYikes, one look at that shrew and my pants loosen up.
May 24th, 2007 at 3:49 pmEven on Fox, you would think this source of comment would be cause for hysterical laughter, but I guess not. “Pesticide?” The woman is seriously batsh*t.
May 24th, 2007 at 3:50 pmAh ha ha ha..
May 24th, 2007 at 3:50 pm“The National Abstinance Clearing House”?
Guess we know why Ms. Unruh (uh huh, huh?) got the job of president!
She could clear about any house, and she sure wouldn’t have to worry about fighting off unwanted sexual advances!
Ah ha ha ha!
Here comes another abortion argument
HAVE AT IT DARYLL!!!
May 24th, 2007 at 3:51 pmWhat about Iraqi babies? Or African babies?
May 24th, 2007 at 3:52 pm“Ever notice that most of the people against abortion are people that you wouldn’t want to f*ck in the first place.” - George Carlin
May 24th, 2007 at 3:54 pmWhy is the people who are always screaming “more babies more babies” are exactly the people we don’t want reproducing? :-)
May 24th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThe most ass backwards statement I’ve heard today…..
“Big pharma and planned parenthood want to control women” ????????????????????????????????????????
Surely they are offering choice and it’s the abstinence only crowd that are seeking control.
May 24th, 2007 at 3:55 pmYa this world needs more babies,.. :(
May 24th, 2007 at 3:55 pmWhat is WRONG with these people?
May 24th, 2007 at 3:56 pmThis isn’t even about abortion, this is about couples, or women choosing when to have a child. Cripes don’t these people have something better to do then worry about what other people are or aren’t doing in the bedroom?
May 24th, 2007 at 3:56 pmOh jeez.
If a woman doesn’t want to have her monthly visiter, she should be able to shut the door on it.
Why do people want to control a woman’s body? I just want to enjoy it.
May 24th, 2007 at 3:57 pmBirth Control Is A ‘Pesticide’ That Will Make Women ‘Like Men’
Thats not your mother, thats a man baby.
NARAL?
North American Really Awsome League?
But apparently Unruh is already on the pill then, because her pic is quite mannish or just fat. I haven’t decided yet.
May 24th, 2007 at 3:57 pmIt’s about more WHITE babies.
This whole abortion thing.
May 24th, 2007 at 3:57 pmWomen who can’t get laid….
May 24th, 2007 at 3:58 pm“we don’t need big pharma giving us another drug” (condensed)
Surely then nobody will use it…the market will decide.
May 24th, 2007 at 3:59 pmComment by DungROLLER 8-1
Mr. DungROLLER - again, the trash can is THAT way.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:01 pmThe U.S Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) defines a pesticide as “any substance or mixture of substances intended for preventing, destroying, repelling, or lessening the damage of any pest”
Now, according to Unruh, what would be “the pest”?
Ejaculation? Sperm? Manjuice?
(by the way, this pill is for those women whose menstration is quite heavy and severely painful)
Or would the “pest” be the act of sex itself?
As for the babies thing. I love babies. But more? No thanks. 3 in less then 2 years was enough for my wife and I
May 24th, 2007 at 4:02 pmThat Leslie certainly can’t get a dog to do her.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:02 pmIf you want to create more SHEEPLE’S, we can’t have intelligent women using any form of birth control. Wait until it’s illegal to have a period. Ladys you should be PG every year.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:02 pmWhat a f’ing nutcase! Last I checked, abstinence was a form of birth control!!!
May 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmWow, who’s the hot chick on the left?
May 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pmBeing a “child-free by choice” type, nothing scares me more than those that essentially advocate for the legislative elimination of recreational sexual activity, and, worse, advocating for essentially mandatory reproduction. This planet has enough human babies. Let’s save some space for the rest of Earth’s species. Or, to translate for the gun totin’ conservative, space for you guys to carry on your huntin’ and fishin’ trips.
Just because the bible says “be fruitful and multiply” does not mean that “God” didn’t set an upper limit on this multiplication! Afterall, back when it was written, only what… half of your children actually lived to adulthood?
Glad I got my vas when I did! Is that next to be outlawed after BC pills? lol
May 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pmPatrick1 is really Leslie Unruh.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pmIs “war on children/babies” the new righty war catchphrase? I love how they declare war or think everybody else declares war on everything.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:05 pmComment by ForTruth
Allow me to use a page out of “TripMaster Monkey’s” book: STFU.
“white babies”
…..half-wit
May 24th, 2007 at 4:05 pmOh, I see. Rachel Carson and the banning of DDT is BAD. But a new birth control method is a pesticide.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:06 pmOh, yes. Well here’s something even scarier:
Look what being a REPUBLICAN turned Ann Coulter into.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmAll the white women get abortions and use birth control.
Now if all the minorities got abortions and used birth control, and the whites didn’t. How would this argument go down?
May 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmWho is listening to these right-wing retards? Who? Try as I might, I can’t imagine algning my psyche with the disassociated, logically flawed, results-suspect rantings of these F@@knuts. Watch the clip and witness the complete abandonment of rationality.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmThis has to be the most illogical thing I have ever heard.
‘Pesticides’ make people horny and sexual abstinence [thru group think] is the only possible solution to big pharma.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:10 pmYay Pooptroller paid attention to me. I’m special now.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:10 pmAnd yet another voice for Republican women to look up to!
May 24th, 2007 at 4:10 pmI’d be happy to spray some pesticide on that big crazy blonde woman.
And I’ll only charge you five dollars.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:11 pmObviously Unruh can’t stand the thought of women making their own choices so she wants to make them.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:12 pmHelp me Hank!!
I sprayed the crazy blonde woman and she turned into a MAN!!
Now she…he…it is beating the snot outta me!!
Hank!! Help!!
May 24th, 2007 at 4:12 pmUNRUH: Oh oh oh [Unintelligible]. Let me tell you about way out there. Way out there is playing G-d, Way out there is wanting us, women, who are feminine and have fertility and it’s something to celebrate, wanting us to be like men, c’mon
Keep eating bovine growth hormones if you want to look manly.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:13 pmComment by ForTruth
Well, you can have your loony opinions, tike.
ForCrap, have a nice day.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmDang it, Dale…
May 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmSure Ms. Unruh, the only time you’ve been near sperm is at the bank. Here let me introduce you to another whack job who doesn’t get “it” either:
Allow me to use a page out of “TripMaster Monkey’s†book: STFU.
“white babiesâ€
…..half-wit
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
I think you too will be very happy together.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:15 pmWith 5 billion people in the world, fertility can’t be that sacred…
Sheesh.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pmHow is this pill a “pesticide?” It’s not killing anything. Is this woman actually saying we should not be allowed to plan our families or limit the size of our families?
What a frickin’ whackjob.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pmWow that was insane. I love it when the crazies argue for Republican positions. It makes their arguments seem crazy.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:17 pmOh, I see. Rachel Carson and the banning of DDT is BAD. But a new birth control method is a pesticide.
Comment by david
Good point. Welcome to Bizzarro World.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:17 pmNigel is catching on…
It is absolutely scary how they have co-opted the language of the women’s rights movement and turned it rhetorically on its head so that it is NARAL who are trying to “control women,” then piling on the scare language of “Big Pharma” (whom Republicans LOVE unless they can use them to scar women into bearing children they don’t want), “playing God” (as if forcing women to bear children isn’t “playing God” with the women’s lives) “pesticide,” women being “like men” (loss of femininity), and the totally deceitful specter of a permanent loss of fertility.
To her credit, Mary Alice Carr from NARAL did a really good job shoehorning in her factual points in the face of constnat interruptions and accusations of “lies, lies, lies.”
May 24th, 2007 at 4:17 pmSince I was 15 (I am now 40), I spent every month dealing with three horrible things - PMDD (physical exhaustion, slight paranoia and depression, mood swings, food cravings, headaches and acne), excrutiating menstrual pain that impacted my ability to sleep, focus at work and have as active of a social clanedar as I would have liked, as well as pepic ulcers from the amount of pain relievers I had to take. And I was forced to suffer because no doctor would do anything that compromised my ability to reproduce, until last year when a sympathetic young female doctor put me on continuous birth control so that I would no longer have periods or their accompanying problems - respecting the fact that I do not want children.
Since then, I feel a million times better. And it’s saved me the invasive surgery of a hysterectomy and early menopause.
Birth control is more than just a pill that stops pregnancy. And I am more than just a uterus. Anyone who cannot respect my right to this medication has no right to call themselves a useful human being.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:18 pmTake the ‘pesticide’ Unruhhhh… Prove that it will make you like a man… Unruhhhh…
May 24th, 2007 at 4:19 pmNow if all the minorities got abortions and used birth control, and the whites didn’t. How would this argument go down?
Comment by ForTruth
I bet the Bushwhackos wouldn’t have any problem sterilizing Muslims either.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pmHow is this pill a “pesticide?†It’s not killing anything. Is this woman actually saying we should not be allowed to plan our families or limit the size of our families?
What a frickin’ whackjob.
Comment by Zooey
I suspect that, if you really pressed her on this, you’d get her to admit that women are supposed to suffer through menstruation as punishment for being, well, women. They are, after all, responsible for bringing sin into the world and many cultures recognize that women are the source of all that is evil and dirty.
By denying women monthly reminders of their evil nature, you are thwarting God’s will.
Got it?
May 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pmThese idiots and bullies are not “pro-life,” they are anti-sex and anti-woman…
May 24th, 2007 at 4:21 pmHeh. In one of the articles I found, Unruh calls herself “post abortive,” since she had an abortion in her 20s.
Here’s a good article (it’s from Planned Parenthood, so you trolls might not want to click on it — cooties, ya know):
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/ news-articles-press/ politics-policy-issues/ abortion-access/ leslee-unruh-6248.htm
May 24th, 2007 at 4:21 pmCRAZYPERSON ALERT !
May 24th, 2007 at 4:23 pmwill make women like (as in similar to) or like (as in fond of) men? if it does the latter, I’m all fer it!
May 24th, 2007 at 4:23 pmHeh. In one of the articles I found, Unruh calls herself “post abortive,†since she had an abortion in her 20s.
Comment by Zooey
Be nice if we could abort some of the posts on TP.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:24 pmI wish I could find me somebody pretty like that blonde lady. She’d could probably give me some smart children just like her.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pm** Miss Unruh later returned home to her five cats, Mister Mittens, Snooky, Fuzzywubbles, Sir Meow-a-lot and Precious, and a pint of Ben & Jerry’s Chunky Monkey. **
May 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pmZooey
Here’s a good article (it’s from Planned Parenthood, so you trolls might not want to click on it — cooties, ya know):
That was a close one, thanks for the heads up, it’s so hard to get cooties off.
There were some pro-life protesters in front of my apartment building a few weeks ago. Creepy(and fugly) people.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pmBy denying women monthly reminders of their evil nature, you are thwarting God’s will.
Got it?
Comment by gummitch
Why do I think you’re close to the real truth?
Can you imagine how many people would be on earth if this woman and her kind had their way?
May 24th, 2007 at 4:34 pmWhat a lunatic!
So is her argument that if “Big Pharma” makes it, people shouldn’t take it?
Hope she remembers that when she comes down with a disease and “Big Pharma” has the cure.
Unfortunately there’s still no cure for stupidity.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:34 pmThere were some pro-life protesters in front of my apartment building a few weeks ago. Creepy(and fugly) people.
Comment by squegeebooo
Why in front of your building? Got a new weekend job? :-D
May 24th, 2007 at 4:35 pmIt looks like menopause turned Leslee into a man, baby!
May 24th, 2007 at 4:37 pmpesticide?
Is she calling babies pests?
May 24th, 2007 at 4:37 pmAnd some women are pro-life only because they’re too ugly to marry, so they’ll take their pregnancy from the garbage man if that’s the only option.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:38 pmsteve
Unfortunately there’s still no cure for stupidity.
Darwin would beg to differ. And that’s a cure with some permanence to it.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pmPlease do yourselves a favor and rent Idiocracy.
It’s about the overpopulation of the planet by STUPID PEOPLE.
Seems terribly likely at this point.
A clip.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:44 pmZooey
Why in front of your building? Got a new weekend job? :-D
Well on the weekends a play Frisbee like it’s my job.
There’s generally an anti-war protest at the closest corner to me, but that weekend it was a pro-choice protest, or a combination of the two, or something like that. So a small group of counter protesters were down 1/3 a block from the corner, which happens to be my building.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:44 pmThe really sad thing here is that a certain percentage of Americans actually believe in the things that Fox “News” and this woman promote.
The Republicans think nothing of wanting to cut off funding for NPR, yet they have no problem giving money to looney toons such as this.
God, what have we allowed ourselves to become.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:46 pmAnother reason to fear the future.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:47 pm“Heh. In one of the articles I found, Unruh calls herself “post abortive,†since she had an abortion in her 20s.” –Zooey
“Post abortive”, huh? Her right-wing, fundie nutjob friends would call her a “Post Murderer”.
How do people watch Fox? Seriously.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pmDarwin would beg to differ. And that’s a cure with some permanence to it.
Comment by squegeebooo
Wrong! Darwin never claimed that through evolution we’ll get smarter.
Really. Look it up, eh?
May 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pmPerfect example of what I call “abstinence” hypocrisy: Laura Bush has been married to George Bush since 1977…. For a couple that takes “be fruitful and multiply” to heart they dont multiply very much since Laura Bush has been pregnant only ONE time during their marriage… So we have a couple married since 1977 and the woman was pregnant only ONE TIME but there against contraception and condoms?…. Heh I can see through this like saran wrap.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pmFREAK! She wants more babies, huh? What about more babies on welfare? Be careful what you wish for, wingnuts.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:49 pmStepford Wife alert!
May 24th, 2007 at 4:51 pmThere’s generally an anti-war protest at the closest corner to me, but that weekend it was a pro-choice protest, or a combination of the two, or something like that. So a small group of counter protesters were down 1/3 a block from the corner, which happens to be my building.
Comment by squegeebooo
You could have some good fun with those people. Heh.
May 24th, 2007 at 4:52 pmIt seems that she is saying that the Bush FDA is approving harmful drugs. Hmmmmm…
May 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pmNot Canadian Yet
Wrong! Darwin never claimed that through evolution we’ll get smarter.
I was thinking along the lines of the Darwin Awards, that go to people who remove themselves from the gene pool due to their stupidity.
Zooey
May 24th, 2007 at 4:58 pmYou could have some good fun with those people. Heh.
Not with them right in front of my building, I don’t want them to know where I live.
Too bad the isn’t any such thing as retroactive abortions, Unruh would be a wonderful subject,
May 24th, 2007 at 5:00 pmThe world would be a better place without people like her.
I am not saying we should kill her, I just wish she never was born.
Love the expression on her opponent’s face in the screen shot - it seems to say “who is this crazy B&*%$?”
Zooey
You could have some good fun with those people. Heh.
Not with them right in front of my building, I don’t want them to know where I live.
Comment by squegeebooo
Good point. Heh.
May 24th, 2007 at 5:02 pmThis is a complex issue that needs honest open debate. On the one hand we must reproduce or we will go extinct. On the other hand it is great that women can have options. On yet another hand at some point all people must consider the ramifications of these substances.
Several years ago anti-depressants like Prozac came into the market. It happens that these chemicals are now found in our drinking water. To some degree we are all being exposed to anti-depressants. Now many contend that drugs like Prozac can and do trigger suicide. The FDA approved Prozac.
What happens if as an unattended result this drug makes it into the food chain like Prozac? A woman should be able to have options but at this point I want to caution all of you regarding any drugs. We are all taking drugs now and this could be a new one in the mix. I wonder how “tested” tested is in our new and improved FDA?
May 24th, 2007 at 5:05 pmI’m focusing on the “hits” Unbelievable.
May 24th, 2007 at 5:06 pmIt’s hard to argue w/ idiots and the insane. Believe me, I tried.
May 24th, 2007 at 5:07 pmI wonder how “tested†tested is in our new and improved FDA?
Comment by Saywho
That’s an excellent point.
Assuming the FDA has approved a safe drug, women and couples must be trusted to make our own decisions regarding reproduction. Not society.
May 24th, 2007 at 5:14 pmThe big surprise of the past twenty years is that in not one country did fertility stop falling when it reached the replacement rate — 2.1 children per woman.
May 24th, 2007 at 5:21 pmBecause in the past two centuries world population has increased from one billion to nearly six billion, many people still fear that it will keep “exploding” until there are too many people for the earth to support. But that is like fearing that your baby will grow to 1,000 pounds because its weight doubles three times in its first seven years.
Unless people’s values change greatly, several centuries from now there could be fewer people living in the entire world than live in the United States today. Max Singer. the Population Surprise.
Ms. Unruh is swimming against the tide.
Comment by shane
No, Shane. I don’t date old hags, so please stop hitting on me.
And for the love of God, no. I don’t want to “get it.” I need to keep my sanity in tact. Loony, I will not and cannot be.
May 24th, 2007 at 5:24 pmOkay, so…in the right wing Christian view, taking a pill that prevents pregnancy is wrong because it interferes with God’s will, right?
Doesn’t it follow then that taking a pill that prevents heart attacks is also wrong because it also interferes with God’s will (to kill you?)
I think we should ask Leslee if she’s sworn off all her meds. I mean obviously she’s sworn off those related to mental health, but what about the rest of them?
May 24th, 2007 at 5:27 pmAssuming the FDA has approved a safe drug, women and couples must be trusted to make our own decisions regarding reproduction. Not society.
Comment by Zooey — May 24, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
Hark NO! Society consists of people that want to have children and safe water. I like safe water and many drugs have now managed to become part of the water we drink. I was under the impression that you realized that the FDA & EPA were tinkered with by the Bush Crew? That means that drug companies do not have to wait as long before bringing out drugs.
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/ BHCV2/ bhcarticles.nsf/ pages/ Birth_defects_and_drugs?OpenDocument
Thalidomide was a great drug and now we can add Prozac. So you don’t like Bush and that is your choice. He threw the EPA under the bus. He hung out the DoJ. So, what about the FDA do you trust them too?
May 24th, 2007 at 5:29 pmSo, what about the FDA do you trust them too?
Comment by Saywho
I said ASSUMING. That’s sort of a “what if” situation. Get it?
My main point is that women (and couples) need to decide for themselves — not society.
Do you have a problem with that?
May 24th, 2007 at 5:39 pmZoooette - Excuse me for interrupting your latest (s)train of thought, but I wanted to get this correction to you….
“That is pure, unadulterated bullshit, MA. The gay community took action long before the Reagan administration did anything. Liar. Nothing new for you, of course.†Comment by Zooey
****Expand your reading circle, Zoooette. Randy Shilts, a gay San Franciscan who later died of AIDS, wrote a telling book, “And the Band Played Onâ€. *WARNING* - - Your assignment of a “gay-victim-bubble†might burst.
With your one-sided approach to information gathering, I’ve concluded that you’re not quite as brilliant as you try to convince us you are……
Tooodles…….
May 24th, 2007 at 5:41 pm‘Pro-Life’ Activist: Birth Control Is A ‘Pesticide’ That Will Make Women ‘Like Men’
Sweet so after Sex she’ll want to lounge around drinking beer while watching Rambo movies and saying nothing to each other?
Awesome I want one!
May 24th, 2007 at 5:47 pmZooey,
May 24th, 2007 at 5:51 pmVV loves you soooo much, she has to stalk you, too. Right on over to this thread. Look what you attract!!! How do you do it? (So I don’t make the same mistake!)
Comment by valiant venus — May 24, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Yes, you f*cking Hag, I’ve read Randy Shilts’ book.
Try to concentrate when I say this: Yes, the gay community was slow to act and in complete denial for a time, but they took action loooong before the Reagan administration ever did anything.
Do. You. Understand. What. I’m. Saying. To. You?
Didn’t think so….
May 24th, 2007 at 5:52 pma) that unruh “woman” looks like divine in hairspray and b) she flip flops from one thought to the next. in one sentence she’s screaming how “children are a gift from god” in the next, she’s saying birth control is “pesticide” make up your mind, you psychotic, transexul bitch, which is it, children are a “gift from god” or are they “pests”?
May 24th, 2007 at 5:56 pmZooey,
VV loves you soooo much, she has to stalk you, too. Right on over to this thread. Look what you attract!!! How do you do it? (So I don’t make the same mistake!)
Comment by Bluedahlia
Oy, isn’t it gross? Just don’t respond to her, she’ll start seeking your approval and attention. We represent everything she wants to be, and is too fearful to admit to herself — so all she can do is loathe herself.
Heh. Think that will get a response? :P
May 24th, 2007 at 6:02 pmWhile it’s not up there with Unruh’s craziness, of course, what the heck was up with the moderator, Cavuto, bringing 12-13 year olds into it out of the blue? And if they are going to be part of the discussion, would he prefer to see all those (however many/few) 12-13 year olds pregnant, or getting abortions? And this pill would require a prescription, like the regular Ortho etc. pills, right?
May 24th, 2007 at 6:30 pm****Expand your reading circle, Zoooette. Randy Shilts, a gay San Franciscan who later died of AIDS, wrote a telling book, “And the Band Played Onâ€. *WARNING* - - Your assignment of a “gay-victim-bubble†might burst. Comment by valiant venus — May 24, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Like you read *anything* - bahaha!!! If you do *read*, then how do you explain what an incompetent, st*pid piece of sh*t that you are? Or why your posts are so *devoid* of facts, relevance or context? Are you just illiterate and point at the words like a lower primate? Or do you do what most wingnuts do, and simply reference books you’ve *heard* about, but never read?
That book was about the *early* days of AIDS, not the point where we suddenly knew it was a specific disease, yet ignored treating and researching it - like RayGun and his band of Taliban wingnuts did! What exactly would you expect these early days to do, when there was no evidence of specifically what the disease was, where and how it was spread, and you simply had people attacking gay meeting places without a solid scientific reason for why or how?
Sorry, but you wingnuts always look for an excuse to persecute any and all minorities (ironic considering you claim to be Jewish and a Woman) two of the favorite targets of your KKK wing of the GOP!
With your one-sided approach to information gathering, I’ve concluded that you’re not quite as brilliant as you try to convince us you are……Tooodles……. Comment by valiant venus — May 24, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
But unfortunately, as is *almost-always* the case with you wingnut - that *conclusion* is based on your ignorance and *opinion*, not on *facts*! When you learn what a *fact* is, maybe we won’t think you’re one of the st*pidest c*nts to ever sit behind a keyboard and *pretend* to be a lawyer and *pseudo*intellectual!
May 24th, 2007 at 6:35 pmAs Al Franken would say, for conservatives “life begins at conception and ends at birth.”
May 24th, 2007 at 6:49 pmSo, what about the FDA do you trust them too?
Comment by Saywho
I said ASSUMING. That’s sort of a “what if†situation. Get it?
My main point is that women (and couples) need to decide for themselves — not society.
Do you have a problem with that?
Comment by Zooey — May 24, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
I am only making a guess but Zooey do you smoke and drink? No offence but taking drugs that inhibit processes that are normal (ovulation, emotion, etc) simply because you don’t want to get pregnant is not healthy. Observe some sort of self respect here. If a doctor tells you that you need a drug to save your life or improve what is left of your life then fine. Otherwise healthy people should never take any drugs at all especially cancer causing man made hormones.
Now you do what you want but I know for a fact that prescription drugs are showing up in better than trace amounts in drinking water. Should this new pill wind up in the water we drink then that is a bigger issue than a woman’s right to choose. When your choices become my problems then my rights are being violated.
I don’t care if you want pills, abortions or steak for dinner. For all I care you could die and I would never know it. Being a man and having my own children is fantastic. I also love the fact that as a man I will never get a period. My problem is that the FDA works with drug companies to get drugs to market faster. The fact is that drugs can be dangerous to more people than just the ones taking them.
I’m not against this pill provided that there is no chance of it harming me or my family because it may be excreted in your urine. Others may be against it for different reasons.
You don’t trust Bush but you do trust the FDA even though drug companies are not interested in good health for all since that means less income for them. My opinion is that unless a doctor says using a given drug is essential then the goal should be to stay away from them. My opinion aside you must realize that the FDA is not protecting the citizens but instead helping the drug companies. Play with fire and…
May 24th, 2007 at 7:08 pmI know that all the women I have been involved with over the years, or have been friends with, nothing makes them feel more “feminine” that having menstrual craps. It makes their days so beautiful, femine and care-free.
(shakes head)
May 24th, 2007 at 7:11 pm#27 I can’t keep track of all our evil-librawl wars any more, are we still at war on drugs, families, women, femininity, babies, Christmas, apple pie… what?
I missed our monthly Librawl Satantic-baby eating meeting, so anyone got the latest news on our evil agenda?
May 24th, 2007 at 7:16 pm#63 current world population is over 6.5 billion.
May 24th, 2007 at 7:21 pmThe right is wrong on this issue. If you want to reduce the amount of abortions, give women more choice and better information on birth control. Life begins at conception. Give women every tool to prevent unwanted conception, so they don’t have to make a more difficult choice later. It’s my impression that conservatives want to limit birth control to force abstinence - actually fueling the abortions they decry. The sex will happen. If you want to make an impact on abortion, educate our pre-teens and make birth control readily available.
May 24th, 2007 at 7:22 pmUgh.. previous comment by me was in response to #43, not #63
Mea culpa.
May 24th, 2007 at 7:22 pm“we want more babies!!”
what a freak.
May 24th, 2007 at 8:24 pmWill all nutjobs like this PLEASE GO THE HELL AWAY.
kthx?
May 24th, 2007 at 9:32 pmI still can’t understand why people seem to think the Pill is such a good idea…pump a woman’s body full of synthetic hormones so she won’t ovulate. Suppress one of the most integral parts of her that makes her a woman…and then teach men to love the “whole woman,” while enjoying the convenience of not having to deal with that pest called her “fertility.”
Never mind that the NARAL woman is right: this isn’t any different than regular birth control, which not only works through ovulation suppression, but also through flushing out the embryos (check out the Pill’s three listed mechanisms, ladies). So really, this isn’t a big deal at all. The Pill has been turning women into men for several decades now.
Give me the Billings method anyday…if a man wants to be with me, he needs to be mature enough to control himself if we can’t afford a child. As a feminist, I absolutely refuse to take powerful drugs and suppress my fertility for anyone’s convenience!
May 24th, 2007 at 9:52 pmThis is kind off of topic but in case you missed it the “nation’s most sweeping abortion ban†in South Dakota never went into effect and was over turned by the people at the last election.
May 24th, 2007 at 10:18 pmThis is nuts! Maybe these fruitbats aren’t aware, but under a doctor’s supervision a woman can stop her periods with the normal contraceptive pill. I did it for 12 months before switching to implanon because I have very long, painful periods and believe me, having period pain and being almost bedridden for up to a week at a time every month is not fun, not does it make you a very good parent.
I’m not going to deny any woman who revels in their periods as proof of their womanhood, but I’ll pass on it thanks. Why is it that these fruitbats think that just because they want to make decisions for everyone that we want to make decisions for them?! The only decision I have every wanted to make for people of Ms Unruh’s ilk is the decision to stay away from me and mine.
May 24th, 2007 at 10:23 pmComment by Saywho — May 24, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
What is the point of asking me if I smoke and drink? As if it’s any of your business.
Nothing is 100%. I know you like things to be 100% certain, but you’re never going to get it.
Personally, I would never take this drug because it seems to be overkill.
But if the drug is available, and a woman decides that she’s willing to take whatever risks are associated with it, I say she should be able to do it.
It’s none of my business or yours.
And stop putting words in my mouth. Thank you very much.
May 24th, 2007 at 11:03 pmIt’s none of my business or yours.
And stop putting words in my mouth. Thank you very much.
Comment by Zooey — May 24, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
So you do smoke and drink, I’m sorry to hear that. Again how is it not my business? Like Prozac this barrage of chemicals may get into all of us through the water? How long was it tested? What are the side effects? All drugs have side effects. Drugs like the pill can lead to liver damage and cancer so what are the side effects with this one?
Was it tested to see if women excreted it in their urine?
May 24th, 2007 at 11:20 pmWhile it’s not up there with Unruh’s craziness, of course, what the heck was up with the moderator, Cavuto, bringing 12-13 year olds into it out of the blue? And if they are going to be part of the discussion, would he prefer to see all those (however many/few) 12-13 year olds pregnant, or getting abortions? And this pill would require a prescription, like the regular Ortho etc. pills, right?
Comment by Randy Owens
Randy, I think he felt compelled to thow that in because it was obvious that Unruh had no logical argument against the drug. Of, course, his argument wasn’t any more logical than hers. It’s going to be very amusing to see what kind of straws the “prolifers” grasp at in attempting to argue against this drug.
May 25th, 2007 at 6:04 amComment by Saywho — May 24, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
So that’s how it works with you, huh? I refuse to answer a stupid and personal question that has nothing to do with anything, and now I’m a smoker and drinker.
I maintain that if a woman decides to take any legal and prescribed drug for her own reasons, it’s her own f*cking business.
You never learned about boundaries, did you?
I’m certain you will respond, but I’m done with this. I’m tired of saying the same thing over and over again, and having it bounce off your braincase.
May 25th, 2007 at 10:28 amIt’s nice to see Fox News branching out and inviting Tranny’s on the show.
May 25th, 2007 at 10:29 amI’m certain you will respond, but I’m done with this. I’m tired of saying the same thing over and over again, and having it bounce off your braincase.
Comment by Zooey — May 25, 2007 @ 10:28 am
Chemicals that person (a) passes through urine and into the sewage system are not broken down at the sewage plant and are then become part of the drinking water. Person (b) fills am ice cube tray with tap water and then uses that ice in a drink. Now the chemical enters person (b) in trace amounts. Over time these chemicals build up.
Here, a cycle is produced and could lead to devastating results since the FDA does not test water borne affinity. This is similar to drinking water in Washington State being contaminated with nuclear waste. Clearly anything that you do that can harm me is a direct concern to me.
Now, I attempted to debate you but you decided to resort to foul language since you have a conflicting sense of reality. Yes, what you do is your business until it becomes a factor in my life. I asked you about your smoking habit since your stand is similar to that of a smoker. I don’t smoke and don’t want to breathe in your smoke when I go out for a meal.
I want to be able to drink about one gallon of water every day. You contend that a woman should be able to consume substances that could make it into our water? I said that I was fine with this drug provided there is no chance of it getting in the food chain. One more time… has this drug been tested to see if it winds up in the food chain?
May 25th, 2007 at 11:01 amUnruh is clearly insane. Not having a period makes women like men? Having a period makes women feminine? What an idiot.
As for the question of whether this pill has been tested and whether it ends up in the food chain, was Viagra tested for this? I don’t think so. Clearly, Viagra in the food chain will lead to more rapists so we should just ban Viagra now.
May 25th, 2007 at 11:24 amAnd what is wrong about being a man?
May 25th, 2007 at 11:53 am“One more time… has this drug been tested to see if it winds up in the food chain?”
Was Viagra tested in the same way? If it’s in our water supply, it’s probably increasing the incidence of rape. I think we should ban Viagra.
May 25th, 2007 at 12:11 pmThe woman on the right is a dangerous magical thinker.
She has an opinion which is non-practical for the world around us.
May 25th, 2007 at 12:22 pmRepublicans want babies until they come out of the womb. Then they want consumers like a crack dealer wants junkies.
May 25th, 2007 at 12:42 pm“Hey where de white wimmin at?”
May 25th, 2007 at 12:54 pmWhat’s with the “G-d” in the transcript? Get over it.
May 25th, 2007 at 1:01 pmthat woman is way beyond republican, she is just plain crazy. she acts as if “big pharma” is going to put birth control pills into our water system. also fred, the transcript might have been written by someone who’s jewish. it is normal for them to write g-d as opposed to god.
May 25th, 2007 at 1:18 pmWait a second, you are Bleeping out the word GOD? Wow, I’m an atheist and even I would never think of that. Though the idea of anti-birth control is ridiculous, you lost my respect as a source of information in paragraph one of the transcript.
May 25th, 2007 at 1:45 pmCommon Chemicals Pose Danger for Fetuses, Scientists Warn
http://www.latimes.com/ news/ printedition/ front/ la-na-fetuses25may25,1,1460529.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage&ctrack=3&cset=true
See what I’m saying?
May 25th, 2007 at 1:46 pmSomeone refresh our collective memory… is this, or who was the woman who blamed illegal immigration on abortion?
This is common sense laws of supply and demand (or wasn’t economics required in your school), more babies = lower wages. Which is good I suppose, assuming you aren’t one of those babies (or for that matter, their parents).
May 25th, 2007 at 2:01 pmBABIES!!! BABIES EVERYWHERE!!!!
May 25th, 2007 at 2:05 pmI utterly hate babies, but can’t blame them for their sheer obnoxiousness. They’re mindless little blobs of greed. It’s parents who are the problem.
May 25th, 2007 at 2:14 pmIf she wants to have my period she can go right ahead!!! Laying on the couch for two weeks while i hemorrhage and in excruciating pain is NOT my cup of tea. I dont believe in abortion (and i am active, just careful) but birth controll is not a bad thing, believe me you wouldn’t wana deal with me while its my week.
May 25th, 2007 at 2:25 pmI think what Unruh and Cavuto are missing is the fact that we still live in a free country and it is none of thier f***ing business what the rest of us are up to.
I personally trust the physicians and scientists that tell us that birth control as well as other drugs are generally ok to use, not self rightous, small minded religious fanatics whose book of research revolves around mythology.
I would like to add that Unruh is a hipocrite having had an abortion herself. I seems that at the time of her own turmoil, abortion was a logical solution for her. For me that is like someone who has slept with everone in their area code to preach to the rest of us about abstinence, which in her case that is probably how Unruh got knocked up in the first place.
Unruh and Cavuto need to stay in their church, talk with thier invisable man, and above all keep thier F***ing mouths shut.
May 25th, 2007 at 2:33 pmNotice it’s the Oger that sounds like she’s brain washed, “I want babies!, I want babies!”.
May 25th, 2007 at 2:53 pmSome one should stand up to her an tell her: “!NO! babies are not for snacks!”
I am appalled at this Bush administration giving our federal dollars to Unruh and her Abstinence Clearinghouse! I live in Colorado where my nonverbal autistic son receives nothing. We have always had religious lunatics extremists in the US but sense Bush has came into office, they all have came out of the woodwork in full force.
May 25th, 2007 at 2:54 pmI wonder if this Leslie Unruh and Bush care about women who are not ready to be mothers or are raped! Then when the child comes what if that child is abused or homeless? No one cares as long as we all put women in there places right!
There is another lunatic named Leah Kelley who pushes women needing spanked. She confuses physical punishment with love. Her agenda is also pushing for the whole thing to happen in america.
SAve the unborn at the same time we eliminate all programs for the born! Bush lovers hate to pay taxes except for war to kill Israeli enemies!
Women aren’t supposed to have their periods every month. Their bodies weren’t designed to do this. It is an undue stress on the body to force it to endure the pressure of a period each and every month.
May 25th, 2007 at 3:25 pmWhy do I say this?
Think about it. Go back 100 years in the past. How many children were mothers having in their lifetime? 13 -15 kids was not uncommon! My grand mother was one of 13 children in Germany! Her mother was one of 15 children!
Now, let’s take a look at this in child bearing years. Say the woman was having a child every other year starting at 16…If she has 13 children, that’s one child every other year into her 40’s.
Now here is the key! During pregnancy, women don’t have periods. So, in a 24 month time frame, women aren’t having periods for half that time. So in reality, women were having half as many periods in the past than they are now!
So, it stands to reason that stopping your period will NOT cause any harm simply because the female body was designed to bear children, not have periods!
Ed
Web/gadget guru
she wants more babies in the world becuse no man will touch her and give her a baby of her own
May 25th, 2007 at 3:27 pmThis lady is ridiculous if she thinks that this new drug will change anything at all. Certain doctors were already prescribing continuous birth control to women who had particularly painful or debilitating periods. I have been on continuous birth control for 4 years and guess what…it was the best choice I ever made. This should be admired…it is a way for women to experience less pain. No extra women will be taking birth control pills, women with painful periods are already taking them to alleviate some symptoms. Face it…we don’t need unwanted children, children are good when we can care for them and they have safe environments. She is using a new form of birth control to protest the very existence of any birth control at all.
May 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pmRead “Even the Queen”, by Connie Willis. The story won the Hugo and Nebula awards for a short story in 1993. She saw this coming. And she has a sense of humor. Enjoy.
May 25th, 2007 at 4:30 pmI always love these fanatics who love taking something as innocent as giving people a choice into an attack everything that is moral and good. As far as getting this woman laid, that might be a problem. Who the heck wants to sleep with a nutjob like that?
May 25th, 2007 at 4:59 pmBirth control is a “pesticide”, eh?
What does that make babies, then? Pests? ;)
May 25th, 2007 at 5:44 pmIf abstinence is so prized, especially by the oh-so moral Republicans, then why was Nancy and Ronald Reagan’s daughter, Patti, born just 7 months and 3 weeks after their marriage? That is over 6 weeks premature!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/timeline/
1952 March 4: Marries Nancy Davis; October 22: Daughter Patricia (Patti) is born.
May 25th, 2007 at 5:47 pmAbstinence doesn’t work, silly people. Even the Bible taught us that much. (Poor, poor virgin Mary.)
May 25th, 2007 at 5:49 pmto 99: the pill is the same female hormones the body itself produces, just on a stable level. This is the information you were looking for:
(From Wikipedia:): In plasma, estradiol is largely bound to sex hormone binding globulin, also to albumin, -only a fraction is free and biologically active. Deactivation includes conversion to less active estrogens such as estrone and estriol. Estriol is the major urinary metabolite. Estradiol is conjugated in the liver by sulfate and glucuronide formation and as such excreted via the kidneys. Some of the watersoluble conjugates are excreted via the bile duct, and partly reabsorbed after hydrolysis from the intestinal tract. This enterohepatic circulation contributes to maintaining estradiol levels.
Basically, women have already been excreting this hormone into the water supply for the last 6,000 years or more, depending on your beliefs. The 30 milligrams extra we take a day is nothing compared to the amount our ancestors have dumped into the water system over the millenia.
May 25th, 2007 at 6:11 pmAnd yet I bet this woman sees nothing wrong with “Big Pharma” producing fertility drugs to help women get pregnant.
This gal’s got the baby rabies, she’s frothing at the mouth and needs to be put down before she infects someone else.
May 25th, 2007 at 6:18 pmDrug: Lybrel
Made By: Wyeth Pharmaceuticals
Contains: 20 mcg ethinyl estradiol
And 90 mcg levonorgestrel
These are synthetic hormones and are not water soluble unlike human hormones.
Side effects of:
ethinyl estradiol…
•chest pain
•coughing up blood
•dizziness or fainting spells
•leg, arm or groin pain
•severe or sudden headaches
•stomach pain (severe)
•sudden shortness of breath
•sudden loss of coordination, especially on one side of the body
•swelling of the hands, feet or ankles, or rapid weight gain
•vision or speech problems
•weakness or numbness in the arms or legs, especially on one side of the body
Other serious side effects are rare. Contact your health care provider as soon as you can if the following side effects occur:
•breast tissue changes or discharge
•changes in vaginal bleeding during your period or between your periods
•headaches or migraines
•increases in blood sugar, especially if you have diabetes
•increases in blood pressure, especially if you are known to have high blood pressure
•symptoms of vaginal infection (itching, irritation or unusual discharge)
•tenderness in the upper abdomen
•vomiting
•yellowing of the eyes or skin
Side effects that usually do not require medical attention (report to your health care provider if they continue or are bothersome):
•breakthrough bleeding and spotting that continues beyond the 3 initial cycles of pills
•breast tenderness
•mild stomach upset
•mood changes, anxiety, depression, frustration, anger, or emotional outbursts
•increased or decreased appetite
•increased sensitivity to sun or ultraviolet light
•nausea
•skin rash, acne, or brown spots on the skin
•tiredness
•weight gain
Levonorgestrel…
•an allergic reaction (difficulty breathing; closing of the throat; swelling of the lips, tongue, or face; or hives);
•possible blood clot in the lung (shortness of breath or pain in the chest);
•possible blood clot in an arm or leg (pain, redness, swelling, or numbness of an arm or leg);
•headaches with a change in pattern, severity, or length, or that are unending in nature or accompanied by changes in vision;
•high blood pressure (severe headache, flushing, blurred vision); or
•liver damage (yellowing of the skin or eyes, nausea, abdominal pain or discomfort, unusual bleeding or bruising, severe fatigue).
Other, less serious side effects may be more likely to occur. Talk to your doctor if you experience
•breakthrough, heavy, or prolonged menstrual bleeding;
•lack of menstrual bleeding;
•headache or dizziness;
•nausea;
•breast tenderness;
•changes in weight or appetite;
•oily skin or acne; or
•changes in hair growth.
There is a long list of drug interactions and since these are oral synthetic hormones they pass through the liver twice. Like all drugs these are dangerous. The cancer risk increases the longer you take them. These hormones will make their way into the water supply unlike natural male or female hormones. So again it looks like the FDA considers water contamination someone else’s problem like the EPA?
Women that take hormones are just as crazy as smokers by the looks of it. Later many of you will need hysterectomies and it will suck to be you. Others will have liver failure. All of us will receive at least a trace dosage. The funny thing is that you think the drug company wants to help you.
May 25th, 2007 at 7:44 pmHey, Saywho, xenoestrogens abound in our environment. Guess where they come from? Plastics. Yep. Phthalates and bisphenol A are estrogen mimickers, they bioaccumulate and everything from polycarbonate water bottles to the plastic wrap on cheese slices is full of these chemicals and have been found in the DNA of humans. Would you suggest we get rid of plastics?
May 25th, 2007 at 8:37 pmWould you suggest we get rid of plastics?
Comment by ann — May 25, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Hey,
Ann,
Nice change the subject trick there…
In direct reply to your question YES! The process will end shortly since we are running out of oil faster and faster but plastic is dangerous too. One common building material called vinyl siding is extremely dangerous just like the hormones that you defend. You are a fool to defend drug companies that intend to make you sick so that you buy more drugs. Some of those potential side effects include DEATH and all that for empty sex. Good for you!
Thanks for sharing but I don’t want bits of your drugs in my water. I don’t want petro chemicals in my water either. Got it Ann?
May 25th, 2007 at 9:07 pm“Nice change the subject trick there…”
Oh, hon, I didn’t change the subject…you were attacking one set of hormones, I just thought I’d see if you were consistent. But let me help you with one little fact: there are lots more estrogen mimickers in the VAST amount of plastic than the number found in birth control pills. Love them or hate them but I’ll take the small amount in birth control pills over the ones the plastics industry tells us we just can’t live without.
May 25th, 2007 at 9:16 pmComment by ann — May 25, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
The breakdown of humanity stems from the loss of basic abilities like civil discussion and meaningful debate. You operate from the position that drugs are good and are not as bad as some of the damaging chemicals out there. My position is that unless you’re ill taking drugs creates problems.
Your reproductive needs are not my issue at all. My problem with you and your culture is that you rely on chemistry for a better life. The goal of this pill is to prevent pregnancy so that you can have unprotected casual sex. That is not a medical need but the unprotected sex can be dangerous. Your sickness is related to replacing one risk with another.
I’m not espousing a political view and I don’t care about the women in the video clip. Your statement that you will take the pill rather than the ones the plastics industry has you take is flawed at best. You are actually saying that you will accept increasing your overall exposure to chemicals since you take the pill and are exposed to petrochemicals.
Your whole post comes off the tracks there. I want less pollution in the world and you are content to add to the pollution. You are selfish! You want to cum but you don’t want a child. You want the pill but risk cancer that could take you away from your family and the world. I don’t want to be exposed to any of it but you don’t care about that as long as you can keep having sex. That is selfish!
May 25th, 2007 at 9:52 pmUm, Saywho, I never said any of that crap that you claim. I didn’t discuss my personal choices or decisions. I merely pointed out that on a macro level, I would take the small amount of estrogen from the BCP than from the vast amount of plastics. So get off your judgemental horse. Live your life and stop judging others whom you do not know.
May 25th, 2007 at 10:16 pmThat was the most pathetic excuse for a news broadcast I’ve ever seen (excluding Bill O’Reilly, of course).
May 25th, 2007 at 10:18 pmUm, Saywho, I never said any of that crap that you claim. I didn’t discuss my personal choices or decisions. I merely pointed out that on a macro level, I would take the small amount of estrogen from the BCP than from the vast amount of plastics. So get off your judgemental horse. Live your life and stop judging others whom you do not know.
Comment by ann — May 25, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
“Love them or hate them but I’ll take the small amount in birth control pills over the ones the plastics industry tells us we just can’t live without.”
That makes you a hypocrite and a fool! That makes you selfish.
May 25th, 2007 at 10:37 pmThat’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all week. Gotta love Fox News. “The birth control industry is waging war on babies!”
I think she’s waging war on my sanity.
May 25th, 2007 at 11:20 pmOne definition of insanity, which comes from evolutionary psychology states that you are insane if you do something to intentionally reduce your genetic fitness.
By this definition, taking a birth control pill is indeed insanity.
May 26th, 2007 at 1:43 amYou would know about insanity, Tawny. I have the scars to prove it.
May 26th, 2007 at 11:46 amOne pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don’t do anything at all
Go ask Alice
The video clip is propaganda that favors the drug companies. The woman on the right portrays the “nut case” (irrational exuberance) while the woman on the left is the “guiding voice of reason” and Cavuto becomes “sexist man.” These three symbols convince a woman viewer that her individuality relies on her ability to seek the same sexual gratification that men do. Women will learn to think of their period as an encumbrance that can be pushed aside so she can develop a career and derive pleasure from sex.
Taking pills for non medical reasons happened as a result of two men. Edward L. Bernays used his Uncle Sigmund Freud’s principles of psychology to become the “Father of Spin” and the so-called inventor of public relations. Pillsbury had difficulty selling a one part cake mix so Bernays came up with having the woman baking the cake adding one egg to the mix. That mix is still being sold today. Focus groups and study groups are used today as a result of Bernays.
In essance you are being played by the group that you defend. This is a dirty trick that people take hook, line and sinker. Your individuality today has been reduced to choosing between products. Humans made it this far because they survived in groups. Individuality has been molded and manipulated by cleaver people so that we don’t even realize who we are.
Read the list of possible side effects in my other post. Chest pain, blood clots and deep vein thrombosis are not side effects ladies. Read that again it says heart attack, strokes and loss of limbs are possible. One of those hormones was found in the now discontinued “patch” and women that took that till it was taken off the market suffered from heart attacks, strokes and loss of limb.
Possible heart attacks, strokes and loss of limb are not “side effects” but primary causes of death. The patch and implants contained each of the 2 drugs found in Lybrel. Then a portion of these drugs makes it to the food chain. Now the FDA is supposed to protect you from toxins but the truth is that in the long run taking these pills will give you cancer, heart attacks, strokes, etc.
Drug companies have solutions for those conditions too. Blood thinners, cancer drugs, antibiotics, pain pills, IV drugs and surgical implants can be yours for a price. Sure we are all at risk daily from all directions however taking pills increases the risks. I’m sure a stroke will not help to get you laid.
Now go on and take your pills you good little sheep! Baaaaaaaaaa.
May 26th, 2007 at 1:52 pm