Democrats would need help from Republicans. And Republicans don’t seem to have the same feeling for the Country as they do for each other. We saw that back in late 2004 when the House Ethics Committee refused to investigate Mr. Tom DeLay.

The only way the Country could get “neck deep” in corruption is with the Republicans “working together” in defense of each other. And there seems to be no ethical guidance coming from the Bush team. We saw that during the investigation into who outted Valerie Plame.

By now it is obvious to some that it’s important to Mr. Bush to maintain a “stiff back” no matter how bad the conditions. Bad conditions have prevailed in Iraq for years – but the Bush team still advocates “stay the course”.

The Red Cross and the United Nations speak of Iraqi refugees in the thousands seeking to leave Iraq. Some news accounts have put the numbers equal to the numbers of that 1948 exodus.

But the Bush team is MUM. And America is likely unaware of a serious refugee problem because mainstream news sources have, by and large, also been MUM. It is unlikely that news sources will get a “TELL AMERICA” cue from the Bush team.

The new Congress has put the breaks on an Old Congress that was this/close to the Bush team. And the Old Congress appeared to have “no shame” while re-fixing laws that did not reflect the President’s behavior. The “stench” of the Old Congress is “in retreat”. And that is good. So, the concept of three separate branches of the U.S. Government is again visible.

Congress is now “working good” but no way can it fix everything the Bush team has broken in such a short time.

How can Republican congressmen look America in the eye after voting to impeach based upon a personal activity and ignoring impeachment for a Culture of Corruption of its own party.

The website ImpeachBush.org has a list of 20 reasons to impeach the Bush team.

And all are serious acts. If the Congress is not motivated to act, who will act? Whose job is it to protect America’s Constitution (did someone call the Constitution just a piece of paper?)?

The protector of the Constitution should be someone who holds the Country in high esteem. Someone who knows that the Country is the host – for both parties and it is not the other way around. It should be someone who does not see the country as a perfect TOOL to enrich themselves.

The electorate is the final protector of the Constitution. When politicians, for whatever reason cannot get motivated to do their job, then it falls to the electorate to step-in and make the necessary changes to the political roster. The political roster is in dire need of adjustment!

I was not supporting the Secretary of Defense, I simply remembered his comments and I thought what a contrast between 2002 and 2007.

Oh, Nancy Pelosi…You AIPAC Whore!!

Democrats, you just got screwed. I’m sorry, let me rephrase that. Democrats you just got screwed again.

How long are you Democrats going to back the likes of Nancy Pelosi and John Conyers before you realize they don’t represent you?

Don’t you remember John Conyers’ bravado when he was in the minority?

He held impeachment press conferences (hearings) in the basement of the capitol building because the Republicans wouldn’t give him a decent room to hold his hearings in. He published a book, ‘What Went Wrong in Ohio’. He swore that if the Democrats gained congressional majority he would hold impeachment hearings of George Dubya and Dick (head) Cheney.

What happened when John Conyers’ democrats did gain the majority? Impeachment went off the table, thank you very much.

I’ve viewed the votes in the Senate for or against this bill. Hillary and Obama voted against.I haven’t viewed the votes in the House yet.

For the Democrats in the House who did vote for this bill I advise you to start looking for another job.

Troubled

Many of the posters here believe that Peak Oil is nothing more than a scam created by Big Oil and the Neocons. Deep down everyone knows that the industrial age is drawing to a close but you simply cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Imagine if Rumsfeld came clean in that interview. Everyone in the USA would have run on the bank, cashed in everything, stopped making large purchases and watched the stock market crash all based on the reality that our entire economy and all of our goods rely on fossil fuel.

While I realize that what we are doing is as nasty as nasty can be it could be that much worse. Pretend for a moment that we didn’t invade Iraq what would have happened? We must on some level realize that the USA installed Saddam in Iraq? We must realize that Iraq used to be property of Great Britain for more than 45 years? You do know that Iraq had a nobler name before WW1 called Mesopotamia?

Oil is so tight right now that if we didn’t jump for the pole position then OPEC would gain strength rather than loose it with the loss of Saudi Arabia. China is still growing and would love to have Iraq as its own little gas pump in the sand too. We must remember that Russia desires energy too. If we didn’t then they would have instead.

Kuwait used to be a good logistical oil supply to the USA and Bush 1 rose to their defense even though Bush 1 created Saddam. It is beyond pathetic when I consider that there was even a Bush that had his hand in WW2 (Prescott). Make no mistake that our appetite for destruction is the root of all of this.

Posters here must prey to the “God of Alternative Energy” but he does not hear them since his iPod is turned up too loud. I posted an article on another thread here talking about the “demand destruction” and “supply shortages that we can expect this summer. A few people read it but it was majorly overlooked since if it were true than we are at the end of the nozzle so to speak.

Posters here don’t want to acknowledge that OIL = FOOD and when we consider that most of the things we do depend on fossil fuel they slip directly into the safety of denial. Others want to believe that technology will save us but instead it will make the crash & cull that much more devastating.

With Ghawar’s output dropping daily there is little time left. The USA will be forced to drill of all coasts and in Alaska. Soon enough we will taste the bitter waters of blackouts and shortages of EVERYTHING. Once that happens you can count on martial law and rationing. It is likely that many of us will be soldiers when conditions around the nation decline.

Posters here want to pretend that the politicians (bunch of lawyers) care about all of us. They fail to realize that Nancy Pelosi likes her car, travel, food, water, sanitation and 4, ooo sq. ft. homes too. She wants the oil no matter what and understands that people will die so long as it is not her.

We are slaves and they are the ruling class. You are with us or you are with the terrorists!

You are totally wrong that we did not go into Iraq for OIL. Who cares what Don Rumfelt says anyway. You have two OIL nitwits in the White House.

The four big oil companies wrote a law in english that the Iraq government has to vote on. The oil companies will get an contract for 30 years to steal the Iraq OIL. They will control the OIL. Get It. If the Iraq government are smart they will vote against this. There is a petition to stop Bush and his cronies to steal the Iraq OIL.

Comment by Terminus Est — May 25, 2007 @ 2:53 pm

Is it oil greed or that Saddam switched to the Euro Dollar just like Iran and North Korea? What happens in the USA if we don’t secure the oil and the currency that oil is traded in? If we don’t take control of the resources doesn’t that just put those resources up for grabs to China?

Under Reid’s and Pelosi’s leadership, they have driven congressional approval levels down to be the equal of Bush’s.

Pelosi wants to argue that the minimum wage is more than compensation for giving Bush a blank check on Iraq? Very wrong.

No confidence in Reid or Pelosi! Resign resign resign!

What would you have done differently or what should the Democrats have done differently? There were two possible outcomes; release the money or not release the money.

I get the feeling, after observing the Bush team’s performance, that either of those outcomes would be acceptable, so long as the Bush team was being faithful to its mindset.

The Bush team has a string of failures to its credit. One more failure would not change the perception by much.

It seems to be a Republican trait to follow their mindset even when conditions seem to indicate otherwise. Staying the course seems to be a worth while trait.

If in 1928, the mindset said “apply tariffs”. That is what was done. And even though feedback(those disturbing pictures of Americans in distress) said change course, it took a different party to recognize the need to change course.

The Democrats are not now and have never been oblivious to the pain and suffering of Americans. And that is good!

…and???

Free to follow my own conscience-driven counsel, I can support those of whatever party who will have the courage worthy of that support. If in so doing a party is recreated worthy of my support as well, I will also be free to join it.

Until then, I will just be free and able to truthfully say that, while I may have been born a Democrat, today, now that I am no longer one, I was not born yesterday.

Regardless of whether or not that’s true, the dems have just proven themselves to NOT be the answer.

Here is a portion of that interview:

Kroft: Mr. Secretary, what do you say to people who think this is about oil?

Rumsfeld: Nonsense. It just isn’t. There are certain things like that, myths, that are floating around. I’m glad you asked. It has nothing to do with oil, literally nothing to do with oil. It has nothing to do with the religion. People who have a viewpoint frequently throw up those two issues, and say, well, this is really against Muslims, which it certainly isn’t. The United States is the country that went in and helped Kuwait, a Muslim country. We worked in Bosnia to stop ethnic cleansing. We’ve done Afghanistan. And it’s certainly not about oil. Oil is fungible, and people who own it want to sell it, and it will be available.

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The full interview can be found at:

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/bush/infinity.htm

These people are grasping at straws. Give a few months, they have the one that broke the Camel’s back.

And for all you third partiers. You are pissing on all of us who worked hard to take back the party in ‘06. I was one of the idiots who voted for Nader in 2000 and gave the White House to Bush. I won’t make that mistake again. Wise up.

Your last two sentences are so very true. We can’t survive another Republican congress and a Republican President. The entire future of mankind is at stake. If we only had a crystal ball to see what the future will be.

**yawn**

Gonna answer the questions?

They are the only leaders of this party that are urging the majority in the congress to keep sending the same bill up to the president over and over, which doesn’t go far enough in my view.

What they should do is gather with all of the generals who have come out against this war and figure out exactly how much it will cost to bring our troops home, how long it will take to bring our troops home, and exactly how they will be brought home.

Write it up as legislation and send it to the president. Specifiy that the funding will only be used for bringing our troops home and if the president doesn’t sign it, then he’s the one who will be responsible for not ending the war.

This bill should be sold to the American people as “We ARE Supporting Our Troops, We Are Bringing Them Home.”

A National Day of Honoring our Iraqi heroes should be declared when the last troop is home.And when they come home we should throw a ticker tape parade for them in the Top 25 populated cities all over the country on the same day. It should be declared a one time National Holiday.

Then those troops after a lengty rest shold be deployed on our southern AND northern borders. They should be deployed at airports, nuclear power plants, major water supplies, and our ports.

The best offense is a good defense.

Also. More troops need to be put into Afghanistan and we should finally hunt down Bin Laden even if it means going into Pakistan territories that border Afghanistan.

Then the President should sit down with the leaders of Iraq (when one emerges after they are tired of killing each other)Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and other countries in the Middle East.

He should tell them straight out. If there is another major terrorist attack inside of our country that our response to the country that is proven to be hiding them will be nuked and those countries had better step up their own methods of rooting out terrorists inside of their own country, before they ever think of attacking America again.