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ThinkFast: May 24, 2007

By Think Progress on May 24th, 2007 at 8:59 am

ThinkFast: May 24, 2007


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During her testimony yesterday, former Justice official Monica Goodling “repeatedly declined to estimate how many times she had considered political affiliations in career hiring decisions.” “I don’t think that I could have done it more than 50 times, but I don’t know,” she said. She “further admitted that she ‘occasionally‘ researched career applicants’ political affiliations and checked their political donations.”

Iraqi Health Ministry statistics show that sectarian killings “are rising again.” 321 unidentified corpses, “many dumped and showing signs of torture and execution,” have been found in Baghdad this month — the same number found in all of January, before the escalation was launched.

Congressional leaders say they dropped Iraq timeline legislation because “White House attacks that they were again on vacation” for Memorial Day while the troops were fighting on the ground “seemed more politically threatening to them” than anger “from the left by bowing to Mr. Bush.”

Three more military language specialists have been discharged for being gay, and the House Armed Services Committee wants the Pentagon “to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go.”

“Hoping to subdue a rising wave of resistance” within their ranks, House leaders “are set to put their long-stalled lobbying reform package to a vote today.”

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) yesterday sent a letter to Defense Secretary Robert Gates “seeking assurances that military leaders had drawn up ‘contingency’ plans so that American troops could pull out of Iraq without ‘unnecessary danger.’”

“The House approved legislation yesterday to upgrade and expand the nation’s network of health care and benefit outreach centers for military veterans,” one of seven veteran-related bills “that the House approved yesterday to provide millions more dollars in benefits.”

Watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington has sued the White House, “alleging the administration refuses to comply with a public records request related to more than 5 million e-mails from administration officials that have gone missing.”

Environmental enforcement efforts by EPA and the Justice Department “have plummeted over the last five years, resulting in a 38 percent decline in criminal fines and a 25 percent drop in civil penalties, according to a new report.”

And finally: A conservative journalist falls in love with Mitt Romney’s wife. Newsmax’s Ronald Kessler writes, “Ann is warm and very natural. She has the look of an outdoors woman bred to be an equestrian, which she is — good carriage, rosy complexion, square jaw, and blond mane. When she is not flashing her truly unbelievable smile, she may lower her eyes demurely. … She lowers her eyes, thinking, and then looks up directly at her interviewer and dazzles him with that smile.”

What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.



104 Responses to “ThinkFast: May 24, 2007”

  1. CompTROLLER V-1 says:

    The entire Romney family would be a wonderful addition to the White House.


  2. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Congressional leaders say they dropped Iraq timeline legislation because “White House attacks that they were again on vacation” for Memorial Day while the troops were fighting on the ground “seemed more politically threatening to them” than anger “from the left by bowing to Mr. Bush.”

    It’s official. Democracy in this country is dead.


  3. Jason M. Hendler says:

    Well, looks like the Dems have surrendered on their surrendering – have a good weekend.


  4. Oversight is a Bitch. says:

    Ann Romney??? I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.


  5. Larry from C says:

    Bush grants presidency extraordinary powers
    Directive for emergencies apparently gives authority without congressional oversight
    May 23, 2007, 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

    President Bush has signed a directive granting extraordinary powers to the office of the president in the event of a declared national emergency, apparently without congressional approval or oversight. The “National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive” was signed May 9, notes Jerome R. Corsi.

    …The directive establishes under the office of the president a new national continuity coordinator whose job is to make plans for “National Essential Functions” of all federal, state, local, territorial and tribal governments, as well as private sector organizations to continue functioning under the president’s directives in the event of a national emergency.

    “Catastrophic emergency” is loosely defined as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.”

    Corsi says the president can assume the power to direct any and all government and business activities until the emergency is declared over.

    …The directive also makes no reference to Congress and its language appears to negate any requirement that the president submit to Congress a determination that a national emergency exists. It suggests instead that the powers of the directive can be implemented without any congressional approval or oversight.

    The White House declined to comment on the directive.


  6. CompTROLLER V-1 says:

    It is time for don’t ask, don’t tell to be lifted. We’re losing too many intelligent professionals of our military.


  7. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Iraqi Health Ministry statistics show that sectarian killings “are rising again.” 321 unidentified corpses, “many dumped and showing signs of torture and execution,” have been found in Baghdad this month — the same number found in all of January, before the escalation was launched.

    Trolls, I’m having some trouble here. I know that this somehow proves that Chimpy’s surge is working, but I’m not sure how. Can you clarify?


  8. Oversight is a Bitch. says:

    Ah yes, Mitt “Flip Flop on Abortion” Romney. Interesting to see that his ethics seem to change over time.


  9. Jo-Ann says:

    It would be nice if the elected Dems , who have a mandate to end the war, remembered that people are actually being blown up every day while they diddle about “appearances”. Keith Olbermann said it all: Nevel Chaimberlain is alive and well and has body- inhabited our best hope for change. My theory is that Bush will use the new funds to attack Iran. Not enough fingers in the dike, folks.


  10. DM says:

    The entire Romney family would be a wonderful addition to the White House.

    Yes, I agree. Just off to the left in the rose garden, partial shade, good drainage ~ spare the manure, they’re self-fertilizing ~ they’d do well. Turn them ear-to-ear to let a breeze through.


  11. ChumpROLLER B-4 says:

    “Ann (Romney)is warm and very natural. She has the look of an outdoors woman bred to be an equestrian, which she is — good carriage, rosy complexion, square jaw, and blond mane. When she is not flashing her truly unbelievable smile, she may lower her eyes demurely. … She lowers her eyes, thinking, and then looks up directly at her interviewer and dazzles him with that smile.”

    (I guess being useful as an alternate form of transportation helps her keep the position as wife #1)


  12. Evil Spaniard says:

    The entire Romney family would be a wonderful addition to the White House.

    Yes, I agree. Just off to the left in the rose garden, partial shade, good drainage ~ spare the manure, they’re self-fertilizing ~ they’d do well. Turn them ear-to-ear to let a breeze through.

    Comment by DM — May 24, 2007 @ 9:11 am

    And bury them really deep!


  13. Evil Spaniard says:

    Three more military language specialists have been discharged for being gay, and the House Armed Services Committee wants the Pentagon “to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go.”

    Maybe their translations were too sissy for manly men in the military?


  14. dogjudge says:

    So we now have AT LEAST 50 career attorneys in the Department of Justice who could be considered “questionable” when it comes to their impartiality in pursuing cases.

    So what is being done to identify these 50 (more?) and possibly replace them?


  15. CompTROLLER V-1 says:

    Comment by DM

    It beats that pure rhetoric/loony-left Barack dude. A “new kind of politics,” I had to laugh at that one.

    “ChumpROLLER B-4″ Those are the turds of CompTroller V-1. System needs to eat, you know. I didn’t know you picked them out of the toilet in a desperate attempt at duplication.


  16. Kay says:

    As a resident of Massachusetts, I was glad to get rid of Romney as Governor. God Forbid we should have him as President. In this age of telecandidates, Romney has the Good Looks to Seduce sheeple into voting for him. He’s a War Monger and speaks words of hate. God Help Us All if this elitist neoCON gets into office.

    I will really move to Norway, then.


  17. bernarda says:

    Goodling gives a whole new opening for updating blonde jokes.

    She wasn’t in the film “Clueless”, was she.


  18. CompTROLLER V-1 says:

    Comment by Kay

    Well, I admit that politicians from Mass. don’t exactly have a great record of entering the White House.


  19. Zooey says:

    “Ann is warm and very natural. She has the look of an outdoors woman bred to be an equestrian, which she is — good carriage, rosy complexion, square jaw, and blond mane. When she is not flashing her truly unbelievable smile, she may lower her eyes demurely. … She lowers her eyes, thinking, and then looks up directly at her interviewer and dazzles him with that smile.”

    That’s some mighty fine horse-flesh.


  20. david says:

    Next, in Playboy, The Girls of Neo-Conservativism: Free & Uncovered. “Pleading the Fifth, these gals of the Wild West let down their hair to reveal a whiter shade of paleo-conservativism. See Shaha Riza keeping the Wolf from the door; Monica Goodling crying on Alberto’s manly shoulder. And a special spread on the Women of Newt & Rudy –even Mohammed would approve!”


  21. Alejandro says:

    When I see Ann Romney the first thing I think of is “equestrian” too.


  22. Kay says:

    Well, I admit that politicians from Mass. don’t exactly have a great record of entering the White House.

    NO, Only Ones born in Connecticut, pretend to be cowboys from Texas and then steal 2 elections.


  23. DumpPATROLLER B-1 says:

    And if they do enter the White House, they become a target for rich CIA operatives from Connecticut.


  24. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Soon, the fascist 30% will be using force of arms via the power of the Federal Government to “convert” the rest of us to “Christianity.”

    We are witnessing the beginning of an era that will go down in history (assuming man-unkind survives long enough) as a regime worse than Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia combined.

    Loyal Bushies are in place in the Justice Department.

    Bush is getting his War Funding with no strings attached.

    All Bush needs to do is find an excuse to declare a never-ending emergency and Congress and the Courts will be disbanded. Military Commissions all ’round!


  25. S.D. says:

    Posted:

    Congressional leaders say they dropped Iraq timeline legislation because “White House attacks that they were again on vacation” for Memorial Day while the troops were fighting on the ground “seemed more politically threatening to them” than anger “from the left by bowing to Mr. Bush.”


    GW is criticizing anyone for “vacation”?


  26. Dumb_Fox says:

    A conservative journalist falls in love with Mitt Romney’s wife.

    Not Jeff Gannon obviously.


  27. DM says:

    #14 ~ Humor heals, which is why the Daily Show has my crew on life support. Here’s one you’d like better:

    When asked why he wasn’t making personal attacks against Gore in 2000, Bush said he was”a Reagan Republican. Cutting down a tree sounds more like a George Washington thing.”

    Of course, at the heart of any good joke is a kernel of truth. Gore is a tree hugger because he’s self-absorbed, and the Romneys were assembled with loving care in Christopher Walken’s laboratory.


  28. ggibson says:


    Congressional leaders say they dropped Iraq time line legislation because “White House attacks that they were again on vacation” for Memorial Day while the troops were fighting on the ground “seemed more politically threatening to them” than anger “from the left by bowing to Mr. Bush.”

    As well they should be condemned. NO more vacations for any of these people until they get the dire matter of Iraq under control! Who among us “people” go on vacation when our main jobs are in disarray? I have skipped many a holiday in the past as I kept working to try to meet an important dead line or in a couple cases try to keep the company I was working for from just falling apart. Bush should NEVER have gone on any vacations while this fiasco has been spiraling out of control and neither should congress.


  29. tarazan says:

    And what Democrats are going to do after all these hearings?!!
    Pass a news ‘non-binding’ resolution…!

    Monica Goodling might have done something wrong, but Goodling just an operative for the ‘higher on the scale’ decision makers…
    That’s where Congress should be looking for answers,and be decisive this time.

    I think Bush became immuned to all these ‘non-binding’ resoltuions..and people are beginning to question and wonder how Democrats run business…fighting among themselves..and finally issuing toothless resolutions..

    How far can they go doing this and keeping the trust of the people who handled them Congress leadership more than six months ago..?


  30. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) says:

    “Don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t translate”


  31. Tobey Tall says:

    Imprisoning a Whole Nation

    In the past six years alone, wrote the historian Ilan Pappé, “Israeli forces have killed more than 4,000 Palestinians, half of them children.”

    Consider how this power works. According to documents obtained by United Press International, the Israelis once secretly funded Hamas as “a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO [Palestine Liberation Organization] by using a competing religious alternative,” in the words of a former CIA official.

    Today, Israel and the US have reversed this ploy and openly back Hamas’s rival, Fatah, with bribes of millions of dollars. Israel recently secretly allowed 500 Fatah fighters to cross into Gaza from Egypt, where they had been trained by another American client, the Cairo dictatorship. The Israelis’ aim is to undermine the elected Palestinian government and ignite a civil war. They have not quite succeeded. In response, the Palestinians forged a government of national unity, of both Hamas and Fatah. The latest attacks are aimed at destroying this.

    http://www.antiwar.com/pilger/?articleid=11014


  32. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Briseadh na Faire sez:

    All Bush needs to do is find an excuse to declare a never-ending emergency and Congress and the Courts will be disbanded. Military Commissions all ’round!

    Not to mention this:

    National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51 basically makes Chimpy Emperor in the event of “a catastrophic emergency”, which is defined rather sketchily as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government function.”

    The stage is set for another false-flag attack. There will be ZERO chance of recovering from the police state that will follow.


  33. President Clinton says:

    During her testimony yesterday, former Justice official Monica Goodling “repeatedly declined to estimate how many times she had considered political affiliations in career hiring decisions.” “I don’t think that I could have done it more than 50 times, but I don’t know,” she said. She “further admitted that she ‘occasionally‘ researched career applicants’ political affiliations and checked their political donations.”

    thinkprogress.org

    My dear fellow left wing Americans,

    I did this too, I just didn’t get caught. We all do this all the time. The governor of Illinois, Blagojavich and a Democrat, did the same thing.

    both parties want party members to be part of their team. This is nothing new.

    My Democratic friends in Congress are just show boating for the American people. Especially for our left wing base, who are complete nuts.

    We are a do nothing congress, thus we must create scandals to apeace our base.

    Once again, both parties do this, we are just better at not getting caught.


  34. Juan C says:

    We are witnessing the beginning of an era that will go down in history (assuming man-unkind survives long enough) as a regime worse than Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia combined.
    Comment by Briseadh na Faire

    In fact, the only difference is that there are no ovens or 20 millions of Americans killed. But it would be lecturing just to count the number of civilians killed by US interventions, occupations and landings since WWII.

    How do you measure that any different of what those totalitarian regimes did?


  35. Kay says:

    These are the current lead stories on CNN. No mention of Monica Goodling (i.e.) let’s just medicate the sheeple with Bread and Circus while Darth Cheney skulks around planning his next dastardly deed, this time in Iran.

    We are to blame if Martial Law ensues.
    Today is a good day for American Revolution II.

    America chooses its newest ‘Idol’ | Video

    Israel arrests 33 senior Hamas members

    Guest worker plan slashed in Senate | Video

    Lebanese PM vows to uproot militants | Video

    Romney blasts ABC for report on spies in Iran

    Oversized American flag causes flap in Vegas

    U.S. checking Chinese toothpaste imports

    Gonzales deputy’s testimony disputed | Video

    Cat staggers home with arrow through its head

    Shark virgin birth warning to man, expert says

    Lava roars, streams, steams as Kilauea erupts

    Cell phone cameras help Japanese lose weight

    CNN Wire: Latest updates on world’s top stories


  36. Linda says:

    Is this true from the BBC
    is this true:
    “I have them because they are attached to the emails Rove insists can’t be found. I have the emails. 500 of them — sent to our team at BBC after the Rove-bots accidentally sent them to a web domain owned by our friend John Wooden.

    Here’s what you need to know — and the Committee would have discovered, if only they’d asked:

    1. ‘Caging’ voters is a crime, a go-to-jail felony.
    2. Griffin wasn’t “involved” in the caging, Ms. Goodling. Griffin, Rove’s right-hand man (right-hand claw), was directing the illegal purge and challenge campaign. How do I know? It’s in the email I got. Thanks. And it’s posted below.
    3. On December 7, 2006, the ragin’, cagin’ Griffin was named, on Rove’s personal demand, US Attorney for Arkansas. Perpetrator became prosecutor.

    The committee was perplexed about Monica’s panicked admission and accusations about the caging list because the US press never covered it. That’s because, as Griffin wrote to Goodling in yet another email (dated February 6 of this year, and also posted below), their caging operation only made the news on BBC London: busted open, Griffin bitched, by that “British reporter,” Greg Palast.


  37. Jay Randal says:

    Bush Foists Propaganda About Iraq
    Thursday 24th of May 2007
    by Jay Randal

    The bogeyman corpse of Osama bin Laden has been resurrected again in attempt to frighten the American public into believing evil terrorists are lurking in Iraq.

    Yesterday the corporate owned TV press were shrilly promulgating the Bush Regime nonsense propaganda about terrorists plotting in Iraq to come into America.

    According to the paid-off talking heads on television, on all the news programs, Al-Qaeda operatives/agents wait patiently in Iraq for US to leave and they take over.

    Then the goat-herding international syndicate of cave dwelling terrorist Neanderthals in northern Pakistan could sweep across all of Arabia and destroy Israel too.

    Then they could get on primitive rafts to float across the Atlantic Ocean, to invade the United States, to cut our throats as we slumber unaware in our bedrooms.

    But actually any real terrorists could fly to Mexico on commercial jetliners, then saunter across the Mexican border dressed as illegal immigrants looking for jobs.

    (Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)

    PS: Contact Reps & Senators in DC to cut the crap, and end the US occupation fiasco of Iraq, plus to secure the wide-open Mex border.


  38. Patrick1 says:

    How about some good news for America and some bad news for the left and their Islamist allies.

    TIME: “Is al-Qaeda on the Run in Iraq?”

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1624697,00.html

    The Taliban’s much-vaunted spring offensive has stalled apparently due to lack of organisation after dozens of middle-ranking commanders were killed by British troops in the past year, according to military sources. The death last week of the key Taliban leader Mullah Dadullah at the hands of American special forces has harmed the Taliban’s morale to the point that local commanders are having to tell their troops to “remain professional” despite the loss.

    After suffering more than 1,000 dead in battles with the Parachute Regiment and Royal Marines in the last year, the Taliban retired to regroup and re-equip last winter.

    A spring offensive was ordered by the Taliban leadership based in Quetta, Pakistan, and was meant to be launched in late March. But a lack of mid-level commanders has meant that there has been little co-ordination to bring about the offensive.

    Hey, I guess killing these guys does help. (Via Don Surber).

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=GG5KZRJNP40DJQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/05/23/wafghan23.xml


  39. President Clinton says:

    And finally: A conservative journalist falls in love with Mitt Romney’s wife. Newsmax’s Ronald Kessler writes, “Ann is warm and very natural. She has the look of an outdoors woman bred to be an equestrian, which she is — good carriage, rosy complexion, square jaw, and blond mane. When she is not flashing her truly unbelievable smile, she may lower her eyes demurely. … She lowers her eyes, thinking, and then looks up directly at her interviewer and dazzles him with that smile.”

    thinkprogress.org

    Are my left wing friends making fun of a Conservative for writing about Rommney’s wife?

    Wow, funny enough this article reminds me of how my left wing sycophants write about Hillary, Edwards wife, Obama’s wife.

    I guess it is typical of my sycophant followers to make fun of the right for the same things we do on the left.

    It is too early to smell hypocrisy my left wing fellow Americans.


  40. shane says:

    When will the other Romney wives show up on the campaign trail?


  41. Kay says:

    Monica Goodling’s testimony is there, but buried. Not as important as American Idle.


  42. Kay says:

    Fooliani and his wife can wear matching outfits.


  43. Juan C says:

    The stage is set for another false-flag attack. There will be ZERO chance of recovering from the police state that will follow.
    Comment by TripMaster Monkey

    I dont think that is going to happen. They seem to have the opposition party in their pockets.


  44. President Clinton says:

    Iraqi Health Ministry statistics show that sectarian killings “are rising again.” 321 unidentified corpses, “many dumped and showing signs of torture and execution,” have been found in Baghdad this month — the same number found in all of January, before the escalation was launched.

    thinkprogress.org

    “Rising again”? So this implies that secterian violence was down, right? But my left wing sycophant followers have told me all this time that secterian violence was up and that the surge was doing nothing?

    How can it be rising again?

    Furthermore, my sycophant followers, the full force of the surge will not be in place until the middle of the summer. The surge just began, if you knew military history you would know that it takes time for “surges” to work.

    Only my Liberal sycophant followers would want immidiate and instant gratification.

    Children of the left, this isn’t sex. Give it time, go slowly, think before you speak and you may all start sounding like me. the greatest President, the smartest President to ever set foot on the Oval Office rug.


  45. Proud Dem says:

    Can someone please give Chimpy a B.J. so we can impeach him already?


  46. Tobey Tall says:

  47. Juan C says:

    Great post, Tobey Tall:


    Here:

    When the Israeli army invaded Lebanon in 1982, the Shi’ites received them as liberators. After it became apparent that our army did not intend to go away, the Shi’ites started a war of liberation against them. Only then, in the course of the long and ultimately successful guerilla war, did the Shi’ites emerge as a major force in Lebanon. If there were justice in the world, Hezbollah would erect statues of Ariel Sharon.


  48. Juan C says:

    The surge just began, if you knew military history you would know that it takes time for “surges” to work.
    Comment by President Clinton

    4 years later, the US military doesnt have exactly what you may call any knowledge of military strategy. But keep using, left this, left that…like you know what that means.


  49. Candyce says:

    Dave Sirota reports that the votes on the Iraq Blank Check Bill will be procedurally hidden so we won’t know how individual Senators vote on the bill.

    Dick Cheney Democrats indeed.


  50. DRxJ says:

    Patrick1nut pastes
    “killing these guys does help.”

    and I link you all to this:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18814416/

    Prayers and thoughts with this man’s family.
    we cannot get our troops home soon enough.
    No more motherless or fatherless children due to this fiasco.
    NOW!!!


  51. Jeff Gannon says:

    Can someone please give Chimpy a B.J. so we can impeach him already?

    I already did.


  52. brandX says:

    sectarian killings “are rising again.” 321 unidentified corpses, “many dumped and showing signs of torture and execution,” have been found in Baghdad this month

    Yet the Bush administration cleverly states there is no civil war in Iraq.

    If about 100 Americans fighting and dying a month constitutes a “war” why shouldn’t over 300 Iraqis?

    Because Republicans know how to subliminally control the language.

    When you’re engaged in a war it allows the terms win, surrender, victory, defeat to be employed. When you’re engaged in an occupation those terms lose their effectivness and power.

    Bush and Cheney marginalize and discount the Iraqis’ civil war while hyping their own fake war. It is an OCCUPATION. Nothing but a contested occupation once the Iraqi army was defeated.

    Wars are won and lost. Victory or defeat.
    Occupations are not won and lost.
    Those fighting the US know we have no right to be there, pretending to help while eying the oilfields.


  53. President Clinton says:

    We are witnessing the beginning of an era that will go down in history (assuming man-unkind survives long enough) as a regime worse than Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia combined.
    Comment by Briseadh na Faire

    In fact, the only difference is that there are no ovens or 20 millions of Americans killed. But it would be lecturing just to count the number of civilians killed by US interventions, occupations and landings since WWII.

    How do you measure that any different of what those totalitarian regimes did?

    Comment by Juan C — May 24, 2007 @ 9:48 am

    Wow, I think my left wing friend, Juan C doesn’t know his history.

    The countries that we have liberated would not have needed liberation and no death would have occurred if the Soviet Union and its allies wouldn’t have invaded them first.

    I am a left winger, but geez, stop blaming America first.

    We would have never gone into Korea if the N. Korean and China and the Soviet Union would not have invaded S. Korea.

    We would have never gone into Vietnam if the Soviet Union would not have gotten involved in Vietnam, if the French would have occupied Indochina and begged JFK for help when the Vietnamese started kicking their butts.

    We would have never gone into Kuwait in 1990 if Iraq wouldn’t have invaded this country and we wouldn’t be in Iraq today if Saddam Hussein had not been the equivalent of Hitler.

    Juan C, my dear fellow left wing kook, you and the other left wing kooks who are my sycophant followers don’t know squat about history.


  54. shane says:

    Of course congress COULD have stayed in Washington instead of leaving on vacation. And then they could have followd the will of the people, stayed the course, submitted another bill with timelines, and another, and another. But no, that would be IMPOSSIBLE for the people running our government.


  55. shane says:

    Fooliani and his wife can wear matching outfits.

    Comment by Kay

    They wear her’s to bed already.


  56. Doc Rock says:

    Dems in Congress sold out on deadlines so that they couldn’t be criticized by the WH on their vacations? Cancel the vacations like they’re screaming that the Iraqi legislature had to do!


  57. shane says:

    Can someone please give Chimpy a B.J. so we can impeach him already?

    Comment by Proud Dem

    Nobody’s that patriotic. But didn’t Jeff Gannon already do that … or does he perform a different (wink, wink) act?


  58. President Clinton says:

    Of course congress COULD have stayed in Washington instead of leaving on vacation. And then they could have followd the will of the people, stayed the course, submitted another bill with timelines, and another, and another. But no, that would be IMPOSSIBLE for the people running our government.

    Comment by shane — May 24, 2007 @ 10:09 am

    My fellow left wing followers, our party has betrayed us. I told Reid and Pelosi to do the will of the wacko left wing base or wrath would fall upon our party.

    We have signed our death warrant. This is it, we have handed the 2008 elections to the Republican party.

    But what did you expect my fellow left wing friends, we have never kept our campaign promises. We are not interested in what the left wing kooks have to say.

    We only care about staying in power. To the average American we must look like we care about our troops. We must look like we want to win in Iraq. If we give in to our base, it would be death to our party.

    I apologize to you from the bottom of my heart. My party, the Democratic party, doesn’t care about its base. It could careless that with your help we were elected into power after a 12 year absence.

    All I have to say to my fellow left wing sycophant followers is what the Democratic led Congress said to you today. SCREW YOU!


  59. Zooey says:

    I dont think that is going to happen. They seem to have the opposition party in their pockets.
    Comment by Juan C

    No need to create an “emergency” when the Dems behave like whipped dogs.


  60. chimpeach says:

    Congressional leaders say they dropped Iraq timeline legislation because “White House attacks that they were again on vacation” for Memorial Day while the troops were fighting on the ground “seemed more politically threatening to them” than anger “from the left by bowing to Mr. Bush.”

    Steny Hoyer, Rahm Emanuel, Ellen Tauscher, and the rest of the blue dog doormats have absolutely no idea what they’re doing. They think they’re just blowing off a bunch of far left bloggers and that the rest of the country is going to embrace their willingness to capitulate to Bush. Venture outside of the beltway, folks. Everyone, except for the 28% or so who think Bush is wonderful, wants to see the Dems stand up to him. They want to see a fight. What should they have done instead? Throw the same goddam bill back in Bush’s face again and again. Let him keep vetoing it. America is not on his side. At least give Pelosi credit for not buying into this weak non-strategy of theirs. Not all of the Dems are backing down, just the clueless ones. If this bill goes forward the way it is, take note of which Dems vote for it. They should be challenged in their next primaries.

    And, by the way, if you want to see this kind of appeasement on a grand scale, vote for Hillary. She’ll continue Bill’s policy of giving a free pass to all of the GOP crooks and helping them cover their tracks. Nothing will ever happen to Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc. if she gets in the White House. She’ll bury any attempt to investigate.


  61. President Clinton says:

    I dont think that is going to happen. They seem to have the opposition party in their pockets.
    Comment by Juan C

    No need to create an “emergency” when the Dems behave like whipped dogs.

    Comment by Zooey — May 24, 2007 @ 10:16 am

    It reminds me of the good old days, of how I behaved with Monica. Oh did she have me whooped.


  62. shane says:

    SCREW YOU!

    Comment by President Clinton

    Neocon Clinton Poser = 28% Lockstep Follower


  63. Zooey says:

    Hoping to subdue a rising wave of resistance” within their ranks, House leaders “are set to put their long-stalled lobbying reform package to a vote today.

    Also toothless and useless.


  64. Larry from C says:

    Congressional leaders say they dropped Iraq timeline legislation because “White House attacks that they were again on vacation”…

    Then why the hell don’t they go out and buy some radio stations and pay off some tv news networks like the Republicans have to get their side of the story told!

    I’ve been SCREAMING FOR YEARS Media, Media, Media, Media, Media.

    The Repubs OWN the Media, that’s why they’re always on the Offensive and the Dems are always on the Defensive. If you’re always on the Defensive you LOSE every time!


  65. President Clinton says:

    Everyone, except for the 28% or so who think Bush is wonderful, wants to see the Dems stand up to him.

    Comment by chimpeach — May 24, 2007 @ 10:20 am

    Really? everyone, but the 28% that think Bush is wonderful? You mean the 29% that approve of the Democratic led Congress want the Democrats to stand up to him, right? 29% is not everyone.

    I know, I know, fuzzy math like Al Gores. That’s ok, I forgave Al Gore, I can forgive you too.


  66. President Clinton says:

    SCREW YOU!

    Comment by President Clinton

    Neocon Clinton Poser = 28% Lockstep Follower

    Comment by shane — May 24, 2007 @ 10:21 am

    No my left wing fellow American, I am with you. I walk with you in lockstep with a Democratic Led Congress that enjoys a 29% apporval rating.


  67. shane says:

    Hillary is a Republican Lite, she’s only a Democrat because she married Bill. In her heart, and heritage, she’s Republican through and through. If Bill wasn’t tough enough on Republicans blame Hillary and her family.


  68. shane says:

    No my left wing fellow American, I am with you. I walk with you in lockstep with a Democratic Led Congress that enjoys a 29% apporval rating.

    Comment by President Clinton

    No your not. Real Bill Clinton had girls clamoring to get under his desk.

    Fake President Clinton patiently waits his turn to get under George Bush’s desk. It takes patience to wait for Jeff Gannon to finish doesn’t it? But a good little soldier like you does his service without complaining. Attaboy.


  69. President Clinton says:

    Hillary is a Republican Lite, she’s only a Democrat because she married Bill. In her heart, and heritage, she’s Republican through and through. If Bill wasn’t tough enough on Republicans blame Hillary and her family.

    Comment by shane — May 24, 2007 @ 10:26 am

    Really? Hillary is a Republican? THAT BITCH!!! She has always told me that she is a Democrat!!! How dare she lie to me the smartest President to ever have set foot on the Oval Office rug?

    me tought on Republicans? I wanted to be a JFK Democrat, an FDR Democrat, a Harry Truman Democrat. Unfortunately I realized that these Democrats of old would not be accepted in today’s Democratic Party. These past Presidents were heros, patriotic Americans, men that cared about America. As we all know, that is no longer the case in our party. Look at how we treat any Democrat that behaves like FDR, Harry Truman, JFK, (Liberman) we spit on them, we treat them like garbage.

    My party is a party for left wing kooks. I know that, I accept that and I know that I must adapt to this. But Reid and Pelosi and unwilling to bow down to the kooks in their party, no wait, they are terrified about losing elections and they know that the left wing kooks are crazy.


  70. President Clinton says:

    No my left wing fellow American, I am with you. I walk with you in lockstep with a Democratic Led Congress that enjoys a 29% apporval rating.

    Comment by President Clinton

    No your not. Real Bill Clinton had girls clamoring to get under his desk.

    Fake President Clinton patiently waits his turn to get under George Bush’s desk. It takes patience to wait for Jeff Gannon to finish doesn’t it? But a good little soldier like you does his service without complaining. Attaboy.

    Comment by shane — May 24, 2007 @ 10:31 am

    Yes, Jeff Ganon did me, so what? I thought we all embraced homosexuality. Why are you trying to make fun of me using a homosexual attack? you intolerant, closed minded fool?!

    How dare you insult me?! The greatest President to ever have set foot on the Oval Office rug?

    Did you know that Hillary and I go both ways? what’s wrong with that? I thought that of all people, you my fellow left wing kooks would embrace this and charish this and be proud of me.

    Yes, I am coming out of the closet this October 11th.


  71. Mark says:

    Just a couple of points.

    The whole issue of the reporter discussing Romney’s wife sounds a bit to fawning, a bit too inappropriate and a bit stalkerish maybe? It also sounds a bit Goebbels’s like. Almost like they are describing what a perfect Aryan, I mean conservative wife should be. I will get hammered for the Nazi reference, but there is not doubt these guys use propaganda methods right out of the Germany of the 1930’s.

    The whole blame America first argument is so old and stale. Please how can you have debate what that is the response? If one lays out the specific US foreign policy moves and the negative consequences of those moves and the best defense you can offer is to slap the old, blame America first argument on the table then you have lost because you have not rebutted or seriously challenged a single assertion. Sometimes we do things wrong deal with it. Sometimes we do things right. Sometimes we do things right and bad results still happen. But tossing out a blame America first defense is just brain dead. Psst, while I’m on it, tossing out an example of where we were right is not bad, but when it comes down to we were right in stopping Hitler and then trying tot use that as a defense of mid east policies is just plain wrong because the two are un related and not even close to being analogies for each other.

    The last thing I have to say is about the sweeping powers the president has granted himself in a national emergency, how generous of him. I think we will soon have a national emergency. Of course not having read the order I will assume that the definition of a national emergency is intentionally left to be very vague and that it will ultimately be up to the president to determine what a national emergency is. So it could be anything from a fender bender accident slowing traffic on the beltway to a nuclear bomb being detonated in a major US city (Guaranteed to be in a “blue” state). I’ve been looking for just such a move for some time. Remember those times when they shut down Washington because of a report of a gunman on the hill? It happened a couple of times before the election cycles. I always thought those were drills for moving congress to a safe location. They never enacted them because I believe they felt they had control of both the 2004 and 2006 elections. They were surprised by 2006. Now I can see that happening again, this time under the guise of a national emergency. Though the purpose of the new order escapes me because the president has always said that he can do anything when it comes to protecting the country, ignoring of course that his oath of office says that he is to defend the constitution. I will give them a lot of credit for convincing 30% of the people that his job is to defend them, not the constitution. That propaganda effort has allowed them to reach the point where he can sign a presidential order such as this and not even raise an eyebrow in the media.

    I also find it amusing the “President Clinton” claims to march in lock step with the democratic party while spewign right wing talking point sover and over.


  72. Juan C says:

    Juan C, my dear fellow left wing kook, you and the other left wing kooks who are my sycophant followers don’t know squat about history.
    Comment by President Clinton

    Lenin´s revolution was made in a absolute feudal system. That cant be considered what Marx and Engels or the industrialized countries like France, England and Germany at the time meant by social conquests. So the Soviet Union is not a good example of “left” no matter what your masters, Reader´s Digest and Fox News have made you believe. Keep it on.


  73. Juan C says:

    We would have never gone into Kuwait in 1990 if Iraq wouldn’t have invaded this country and we wouldn’t be in Iraq today if Saddam Hussein had not been the equivalent of Hitler.
    Comment by President Clinton

    Irrelevant indoctrination. I pass.
    Keep harder.


  74. barfly says:

    We would have never gone into Kuwait in 1990 if Iraq wouldn’t have invaded this country and we wouldn’t be in Iraq today if Saddam Hussein had not been the equivalent of Hitler.

    Juan C, my dear fellow left wing kook, you and the other left wing kooks who are my sycophant followers don’t know squat about history.

    Comment by President Clinton —

    I would expect the pres. to have a better memory. We would never have gone into Kuwait if George Bush hadn’t given him the ok. And if Saddam was the equivalent of Hitler, why did republicans arm him? I’m glad you’re on our side, Mr. Pres. and not with those traitorous republicans.


  75. barfly says:

    Yes, Jeff Ganon did me, so what? I thought we all embraced homosexuality. Why are you trying to make fun of me using a homosexual attack? you intolerant, closed minded fool?!

    Um, Jeffy didn’t appear until Bush took office. Better have your memory checked, Mr. Pres.


  76. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) says:

    “Troll President Clinton” has been eating too many high calorie postburgers and his head is getting really fat. We should not enable him in his self-destruction by feeding him.


  77. dogjudge says:

    Here’s an interesting link for all to read.

    It comes from the Chicago Tribune, a very, very longtime conservative Republican newspaper.

    An opinion piece by a Republican Attorney General, who was terminated when Clinton won.

    He doesn’t exactly support Gonzales and Bush.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0524gonzomay24,0,2876879.story?coll=chi-newsopinioncommentary-hed


  78. President Clinton says:

    Yes, Jeff Ganon did me, so what? I thought we all embraced homosexuality. Why are you trying to make fun of me using a homosexual attack? you intolerant, closed minded fool?!

    Um, Jeffy didn’t appear until Bush took office. Better have your memory checked, Mr. Pres.

    Comment by barfly — May 24, 2007 @ 10:45 am

    Just because the media didn’t decide to tell you about my buddy Jeff until Bush came into office, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t around before.

    Barfly, so for you if the media doesn’t talk about it, it doesn’t exist, eh?

    Ah, I tell my wife, that our base is crazy, but she just won’t listen. She is really desperate for your votes.

    Barfly, Jeff slept in the Lincoln Room and man did we have some great nights.

    Don’t tell anyone and don’t leak it to the press, ok?


  79. President Clinton says:

    We would have never gone into Kuwait in 1990 if Iraq wouldn’t have invaded this country and we wouldn’t be in Iraq today if Saddam Hussein had not been the equivalent of Hitler.
    Comment by President Clinton

    Irrelevant indoctrination. I pass.
    Keep harder.

    Comment by Juan C — May 24, 2007 @ 10:40 am

    Juan C, were you looking in the mirror when you spoke to yourself about being indoctrinated?

    Yes, you are right Juan C, you are irrelevant and completed brainwashed.

    Nice to know that you are man enough to admit it.

    All my sycophant followers are indoctrinated and brainwashed. I can control the left wing kooks so easily.

    they still swear that I was a good PResident! if they only knew.


  80. Bluedahlia says:

    #76
    Excellent editorial dogjudge. Thanks, it helps me to see that rational people, whether a Dem or a Rep, still know the difference between right and wrong, justice and politics. And that there are more of us than the vocal, rabid, lunatic, fringe 28%ers. I get really down about what is “going down” sometimes…….


  81. President Clinton says:

    We would have never gone into Kuwait in 1990 if Iraq wouldn’t have invaded this country and we wouldn’t be in Iraq today if Saddam Hussein had not been the equivalent of Hitler.

    Juan C, my dear fellow left wing kook, you and the other left wing kooks who are my sycophant followers don’t know squat about history.

    Comment by President Clinton —

    I would expect the pres. to have a better memory. We would never have gone into Kuwait if George Bush hadn’t given him the ok. And if Saddam was the equivalent of Hitler, why did republicans arm him? I’m glad you’re on our side, Mr. Pres. and not with those traitorous republicans.

    Comment by barfly — May 24, 2007 @ 10:44 am

    What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

    So what Republicans AND Democrats sold Hussein weapons during the Iran and Iraq War. The soviet union sold weapons to Iran and Iraq, so did the French, German, British, etc.

    FDR sold weapons to the Soviet Union during WWII, and we all know that Stalin was a monster, FDR knew that Stalin was a monster when we sold him weapons to defeat Nazi Germany.

    Some times you have to side with the lesser of two evils like FDR did siding with Stalin during WWII and like we did siding with Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.

    Why aren’t you crying about FDR selling weapoins and giving billions of dollars to the Soviet Union to Stalin, who murdered more people than any dictator in modern history?

    Barfly, obviously you onlly know a revisionist, one sided history.


  82. Juan C says:

    Funny how my statement of Soviet Union not being “left” remained unanswered….I guess everyone picks their battles.


  83. President Clinton says:

    Juan C, my dear fellow left wing kook, you and the other left wing kooks who are my sycophant followers don’t know squat about history.
    Comment by President Clinton

    Lenin´s revolution was made in a absolute feudal system. That cant be considered what Marx and Engels or the industrialized countries like France, England and Germany at the time meant by social conquests. So the Soviet Union is not a good example of “left” no matter what your masters, Reader´s Digest and Fox News have made you believe. Keep it on.

    Comment by Juan C — May 24, 2007 @ 10:39 am

    Wow, a communist buddy. Typical of my left wing sycophant followers to now claim that the Soviet Union was not a real communist nation.

    You know funny enough, all the communist of the world, before the Soviet Union fell called the USSR a great communist nation.

    I know I did, and I know that I admired how the politicians in the USSR controlled their people and forced them to do the will of the government. Ah, we Democrats want that power!


  84. Juan C says:

    Wow, a communist buddy. Typical of my left wing sycophant followers to now claim that the Soviet Union was not a real communist nation.

    You are a math genius, right? A topologist, I guess, simulating attractors in the phase plane and blogging at the same time…right? I spoke about Lenin and boom! Im a communist. Hehehe. Keep it on, simpleton.

    You know funny enough, all the communist of the world, before the Soviet Union fell called the USSR a great communist nation.
    Comment by President Clinton

    Im going to ask for some links. Lets see…


  85. Juan C says:

    So what Republicans AND Democrats sold Hussein weapons during the Iran and Iraq War. The soviet union sold weapons to Iran and Iraq, so did the French, German, British, etc.
    Comment by President Clinton

    Yeah, so what?

    Some times you have to side with the lesser of two evils
    Oh, I love the moral/religious lingo in political affairs…it is so credible now.


  86. RUCerious says:

    White House attacks that they were again on vacation” for Memorial Day while the troops were fighting on the ground “seemed more politically threatening to them” than anger “from the left by bowing to Mr. Bush.”

    My award for the weak ass excuse of the year goes to these assclowns.


  87. Bluedahlia says:

    Do you even realize how completely moronic you sound to us “Prez”? Most of us don’t even read your boring azzz diatribes. But you do take up space that I actually have to skim over to know to skip, so you are wasting my time.
    Hey here’s a fun idea! Maybe the kooks at redstate will love your parody. I bet they give you so much praise! Genius, they say….
    So what do you say, give it a try?


  88. Hypocrisy says:

    Congressional leaders say they dropped Iraq timeline legislation because “White House attacks that they were again on vacation” for Memorial Day while the troops were fighting on the ground “seemed more politically threatening to them” than anger “from the left by bowing to Mr. Bush.”

    F**king wimps. Don’t you recall the months of vacation Bush took? How many times is he in Crawford? And, do you think he is working only? This is ONE HELLUVA WEAK excuse.

    Wimps. Democrats deserve to lose control of Congress if they don’t even have the b***s to stand up to and demand real changes from the man and leaders that have destroyed this country.


  89. RUCerious says:

    But no, that would be IMPOSSIBLE for the people ruining our government.

    Comment by shane — May 24, 2007 @ 10:09 am

    Just thought I would do a little creative editing…


  90. Patrick1 says:

    Where are the massive protests and phone calls and e-mails flooding Congress telling them to surrender Iraq to the Islamists? I thought that was what the 06 election was about? What happened moonbats?


  91. chimpeach says:

    #65 Neocon Clinton Poser

    You mean the 29% that approve of the Democratic led Congress want the Democrats to stand up to him, right? 29% is not everyone.

    Let me help you with your math. Drop the Republicans from Congress and you’ll see that percentage go much higher. The right-wingers are pulling down the average. Or else just compare Pelosi’s approval numbers with Bush’s.


  92. chimpeach says:

    #77 Fake Clinton

    Wow, so you had sex with Jeff Gannon? Did you do your crummy Clinton impression while you two were getting it on or did you just act as your own pathetic self?


  93. Mark says:

    Just a couple of points.

    The whole issue of the reporter discussing Romney’s wife sounds a bit to fawning, a bit too inappropriate and a bit stalkerish maybe? It also sounds a bit Goebbels’s like. Almost like they are describing what a perfect Aryan, I mean conservative wife should be. I will get hammered for the Nazi reference, but there is not doubt these guys use propaganda methods right out of the Germany of the 1930’s.

    The whole blame America first argument is so old and stale. Please how can you have debate what that is the response? If one lays out the specific US foreign policy moves and the negative consequences of those moves and the best defense you can offer is to slap the old, blame America first argument on the table then you have lost because you have not rebutted or seriously challenged a single assertion. Sometimes we do things wrong deal with it. Sometimes we do things right. Sometimes we do things right and bad results still happen. But tossing out a blame America first defense is just brain dead. Psst, while I’m on it, tossing out an example of where we were right is not bad, but when it comes down to we were right in stopping Hitler and then trying tot use that as a defense of mid east policies is just plain wrong because the two are un related and not even close to being analogies for each other.

    The last thing I have to say is about the sweeping powers the president has granted himself in a national emergency, how generous of him. I think we will soon have a national emergency. Of course not having read the order I will assume that the definition of a national emergency is intentionally left to be very vague and that it will ultimately be up to the president to determine what a national emergency is. So it could be anything from a fender bender accident slowing traffic on the beltway to a nuclear bomb being detonated in a major US city (Guaranteed to be in a “blue” state). I’ve been looking for just such a move for some time. Remember those times when they shut down Washington because of a report of a gunman on the hill? It happened a couple of times before the election cycles. I always thought those were drills for moving congress to a safe location. They never enacted them because I believe they felt they had control of both the 2004 and 2006 elections. They were surprised by 2006. Now I can see that happening again, this time under the guise of a national emergency. Though the purpose of the new order escapes me because the president has always said that he can do anything when it comes to protecting the country, ignoring of course that his oath of office says that he is to defend the constitution. I will give them a lot of credit for convincing 30% of the people that his job is to defend them, not the constitution. That propaganda effort has allowed them to reach the point where he can sign a presidential order such as this and not even raise an eyebrow in the media.

    One more last thing. I find the fake president clinton to be very funny. He claims to march in lock step with democrats while spewing republican and rightwing tlaking points. Very funny indeed.


  94. klyde says:

    So what does a rethug have to do to be impeached?


  95. nolo says:

    B R E A K I N G — new witness at
    june 5, 2007 senate judiciary
    hearing! — one TODD GRAVES!

    i just got off the phone with the
    director of communications for sen.
    patrick leahy’s judiciary committee,
    and — though not yet on the website
    committtee agenda — todd graves will
    also appear as a witness on june 5, 2007
    .

    a double-header! woo hoo!

    schlozman v. graves – what a wonderful
    contrast that should offer — in ethics, style and substance. . .

    buckle up for june 5!


  96. WC says:

    Did anyone catch (er…stomach) Bush’s press conference this morning? I saw part of it. He was asked about Monica’s testimony regarding using political considerations in hiring employees, and Bush refused to address it, saying instead that there was a big ol’ important investigation going on in the DOJ and it would take a while to complete. I expected him to say “…and I will not comment about an ongoing investigation” but he didn’t. Yet the insinuation was there.

    He also said that the Dems in Congress were just playing politics with the DOJ/U.S. attorney scandal and that they just needed to stop these silly hearings and get on with their business of passing bills and stuff. Well…somthing like that.


  97. WC says:

    Where are the massive protests and phone calls and e-mails flooding Congress telling them to surrender Iraq to the Islamists? I thought that was what the 06 election was about? What happened moonbats?

    Comment by Patrick1 — May 24, 2007 @ 11:29 am

    You first. I want quotes (and their sources) of Democrats in Congress publicly saying that they want the U.S. to lose in Iraq and fully support all current and future operations by terrorist groups.


  98. WC says:

    Continuing with the Bush press conference…

    He also said that we are in Iraq at the invitation of the Iraqis, and if the government asked us to leave, we’d get out.

    So a majority of the American people want us out of Iraq and Bush says “f*ck you, we’re staying” and the generals on the ground in Iraq will make the decisions…not politicians in Washington…and that if we leave then terrorists will follow us home and attack us in our shopping malls and grocery stores and the Middle East region will fall into further chaos and destabilization and al Qaeda will be able to install a training ground and launching pad in Iraq from which to launch future terrorist attacks and blah blah blah.

    But if the Iraqi’s ask us to leave? “Ummm…OK. Sure.”


  99. SKdeA says:

    In fact, the only difference is that there are no ovens or 20 millions of Americans killed. But it would be lecturing just to count the number of civilians killed by US interventions, occupations and landings since WWII.
    Comment by Juan C — May 24, 2007 @ 9:48 am

    Juan C, I will try to find the link to the YouTube video of the freshly built camps, in America, WITH OVENS, for you.

    Why would any place designed to hold humans temporarily need 10 enormous industrial incinerators? But there they are… some say that these camps are for holding illegal immigrants, which doesn’t make it any prettier than if they are for holding disgruntled citizens, IMO.

    The scariest thing I have seen on the internet so far.


  100. SKdeA says:

    Aha, here’s the link to the detention camps…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBxdRIQx7Y


  101. WC says:

    More press conference reflections…

    Bush seemed to suggest that there was a lot of frustration in the Mid East which caused 19 “kids” to get on a plane and kill over 3000 people. He suggests that the frustration can be solved by instituting a different type of government in that region.


  102. President Clinton says:

    So what Republicans AND Democrats sold Hussein weapons during the Iran and Iraq War. The soviet union sold weapons to Iran and Iraq, so did the French, German, British, etc.
    Comment by President Clinton
    Yeah, so what?

    Some times you have to side with the lesser of two evils
    Oh, I love the moral/religious lingo in political affairs…it is so credible now.

    Comment by Juan C — May 24, 2007 @ 11:10 am

    So, do you think that it was wrong for our Democratic god, FDR, to sell weapons and give billions of dollars to the Soviet Union so they could defeat Hitler?

    You do know that yoru communist buddy, Stalin, killed more individuals than Hitler, right? Yet, FDR shook his hand, and helped him defeat Hitler.

    If we go with your logic, FDR should have never helped Stalin and let Hitler conquer the Soviet Union, right?

    You are a mental light weight. I am the smartest President to ever have set foot on the Oval Office rug and you are boring me with your typical communist propaganda.

    You forget son, that most of my friends are like you. I debate them all the time and win. I am the smartest President to ever set foot on the Oval Office rugs.


  103. Juan C says:

    You do know that yoru communist buddy, Stalin, killed more individuals than Hitler, right?

    First, Stalin was a train assailant back in his native Georgia. He went up in the Communist party, becuz they were just organized peasants in the middle of a revolution. Stalin knew nothing about communism, just like…you. So, please, spare me the childish talk.

    The German army was defeated by the Russians, being Stalingrad the turning point. Zukhov was a military genius and saw that they wouldnt defeat the heavily armed Nazi army, therefore russians fought it body to body style. Then russians sent Nazis back all the way upt ot Berlin where US and Britain forces arrived just to make sure they got something in the Germany bounty. I doubt that FDR make some difference in the whole affair.

    Keep it up.


  104. Parrotlover77 says:

    Congressional leaders say they dropped Iraq timeline legislation because “White House attacks that they were again on vacation” for Memorial Day while the troops were fighting on the ground “seemed more politically threatening to them” than anger “from the left by bowing to Mr. Bush.”

    It’s important to remember that NOT ALL Democrats favor this approach. It’s high time we cut the fat from the party. The conservative / middle-road Democrats need to go. It’s time to elect some REAL liberals.



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