Comments on: CBS Exposes Bush Admin’s ‘Outrageous Delay’ In Providing Marines With Bomb-Resistant Vehicle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:02:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: 4merusmc http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3837502 4merusmc Sun, 03 Jun 2007 20:10:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3837502 This issue is strictly a USMC issue, not a republican or administration issue. If there were mistakes made, which is not yet totally clear, they were USMC mistakes. I know firsthand that the USMC is taking the allegations seriously and they are looking into it. To make the leap and place the blame on a political party or the current administration is foolish and ignorant. This issue is strictly a USMC issue, not a republican or administration issue. If there were mistakes made, which is not yet totally clear, they were USMC mistakes. I know firsthand that the USMC is taking the allegations seriously and they are looking into it. To make the leap and place the blame on a political party or the current administration is foolish and ignorant.

]]> By: Jillian http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3826082 Jillian Mon, 28 May 2007 19:18:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3826082 Thank you Biden for continuing to fight for our soldiers. Thank you Biden for continuing to fight for our soldiers.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3824637 WaltTheMan Sun, 27 May 2007 02:33:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3824637 My #70, One answer to each question: G W Bush. My #70,
One answer to each question: G W Bush.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3824621 WaltTheMan Sun, 27 May 2007 02:07:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3824621 #69 - DreamCrusher, As a child, I lived WWII. I remember the mobilization. The US was shipping mobile radar vans to England just 3 months after Pearl Harbor. The magnetrons that made that possible had arrived at MIT in 1940, but were experimental curiosities up until 12/07/41. Over 2000 vans were shipped to Great Britain by the following Spring. What has happened to the industry that made our nation as great as it is? Why has our resolve faded? Who is to blame? #69 – DreamCrusher,
As a child, I lived WWII. I remember the mobilization. The US was shipping mobile radar vans to England just 3 months after Pearl Harbor. The magnetrons that made that possible had arrived at MIT in 1940, but were experimental curiosities up until 12/07/41. Over 2000 vans were shipped to Great Britain by the following Spring. What has happened to the industry that made our nation as great as it is?
Why has our resolve faded? Who is to blame?

]]> By: DreamCrusher http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3824084 DreamCrusher Sat, 26 May 2007 21:01:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3824084 I did face reality, and the reality is that manufacturing delays are not the realm of the president of the country, unless that president decides to be like Hitler and usurp control over private enterprises for the cause of utilizing them for war. You know, because I'm sure you'd be fine with the president just taking over private businesses in the country to use them for war. I'm sure you and Think Progress wouldn't have any problems with that at all.... Snark. I did face reality, and the reality is that manufacturing delays are not the realm of the president of the country, unless that president decides to be like Hitler and usurp control over private enterprises for the cause of utilizing them for war.

You know, because I’m sure you’d be fine with the president just taking over private businesses in the country to use them for war. I’m sure you and Think Progress wouldn’t have any problems with that at all…. Snark.

]]> By: FChucklenutz http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3824073 FChucklenutz Sat, 26 May 2007 20:56:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3824073 Comment by DreamCrusher — May 26, 2007 @ 3:35 pm YAAAWN....wake up DreamCrusher, time to face reality and accept the fact that you got pwned by the Administration....Cheney'd..."if you will" MachtKampf Comment by DreamCrusher — May 26, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

YAAAWN….wake up DreamCrusher, time to face reality and accept the fact that you got pwned by the Administration….Cheney’d…”if you will”

MachtKampf

]]> By: FChucklenutz http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3824068 FChucklenutz Sat, 26 May 2007 20:52:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3824068 Comment by Snoino — May 26, 2007 @ 12:51 pm Nicely put....you and Merlin: Comment by Merlin — May 25, 2007 @ 10:21 pm Have the best posts on this thread IMO... So, let's see...off the top of one's head: 1. Lack of MRAP production 2. Walter Reed debacle 3. Dragonskin controversy 4. The adiminstration will not accept an additional .5% raise for "the troops" while up-ends of 20% of military families need WIC. 5. "Backdoor" drafts and tour extensions with inadequate time at home. 6. A total of <b>280,000+ troops</b> (yes 280,000!!!...when you count US troops and Blackwater)....Blackwater....is this not the quintessence of Eisenhower's woes regarding the <b>Military-Industrial Complex</b>? When faced with these facts/instances, any logical person (democrat or republican) is forced to contend that this administration is either incompetent, nefarious, <b>or both</b> .....But <i>not</i> your <b>"Delta House" Neocons</b>...So drunk on the kool-aid. First, they suckle on the titte [sp] of Sean and Rush, then they follow each other in around like lemmings marching over a cliff...blaming everyone but themselves and <i>their</i> king.... George W Bush....not the "Hoover" or "Otter" of Delta House....but "Flounder"....cause boy has he ever. All hail King George the Flounder...."Commander Decider guy" of the Delta House Neocons MachtKampf. Comment by Snoino — May 26, 2007 @ 12:51 pm

Nicely put….you and Merlin:

Comment by Merlin — May 25, 2007 @ 10:21 pm

Have the best posts on this thread IMO…

So, let’s see…off the top of one’s head:

1. Lack of MRAP production
2. Walter Reed debacle
3. Dragonskin controversy
4. The adiminstration will not accept an additional .5% raise for “the troops” while up-ends of 20% of military families need WIC.
5. “Backdoor” drafts and tour extensions with inadequate time at
home.
6. A total of 280,000+ troops (yes 280,000!!!…when you count US troops and Blackwater)….Blackwater….is this not the quintessence of Eisenhower’s woes regarding the Military-Industrial Complex?

When faced with these facts/instances, any logical person (democrat or republican) is forced to contend that this administration is either incompetent, nefarious, or both

…..But not your “Delta House” Neocons…So drunk on the kool-aid. First, they suckle on the titte [sp] of Sean and Rush, then they follow each other in around like lemmings marching over a cliff…blaming everyone but themselves and their king….

George W Bush….not the “Hoover” or “Otter” of Delta House….but “Flounder”….cause boy has he ever.

All hail King George the Flounder….”Commander Decider guy” of the Delta House Neocons

MachtKampf.

]]> By: DreamCrusher http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823925 DreamCrusher Sat, 26 May 2007 19:35:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823925 Yes, blame Bush for manufacturing delays. Oh, and in the same vein, I blame George Bush personally for the production delays of Nintendo Wii, leading many, many people across the world to have to wait months to get their Wii. Clearly Bush should nationalize the military industry and reset all assembly lines in the country to manufacture MRAPs. Hell, if Hitler can do it, why can't Bush? After all, aren't they basically the same? Yes, blame Bush for manufacturing delays. Oh, and in the same vein, I blame George Bush personally for the production delays of Nintendo Wii, leading many, many people across the world to have to wait months to get their Wii. Clearly Bush should nationalize the military industry and reset all assembly lines in the country to manufacture MRAPs. Hell, if Hitler can do it, why can’t Bush? After all, aren’t they basically the same?

]]> By: Snoino http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823709 Snoino Sat, 26 May 2007 16:51:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823709 Despite having the advantage of overwhelming support from the American people for their ideas and "efforts" to end this war, the Democrats are about to lose all of their momentum and, despite facing off against nine mongoloids and one mildly rational Libertarian, may just lose the election. Why? I think the reason is well illustrated in this comment thread. Many of you, just like your counterparts in government, have allowed an incoherent blow-hard and a fervent bigot shape the direction of this discussion. There is absolutely no defense, especially considering that we've opened an unlimited line of credit for this war with the 1st Bank of China, for not immediately retooling as many auto plants as necessary to shoot out as many MRAP vehicles as our military has requested within 120 days at the most. Then, or preferably simultaneously, we should also be producing tens of thousands of batches of interceptor body armor, and whatever other life-saving equipment our military is requesting. These soldiers are being forced into harm's way for no reason whatsoever. With that in mind, there is no excuse for not giving the soldiers every single thing they need to execute this ridiculous military plan so that they can, hopefully, come home in one piece. Now, I'm not saying we should get rid of all this antiquated, non-armored equipment. Heck, Bush, Cheney and McCain need something in which to be transported when they make their surprise visits to Baghdad... So, back to my original point - knowing that there is no argument that supports the Bush administration on this topic (and most others), the jerk-offs who still feel they need to defend an indefensible position (hey, they learned it from their GOP counterparts in office), change the topic completely and bait their naive Democratic/Liberal counterparts to respond to a comment that warrants no response. So, losers...get a clue - stay focused, stay on topic and let Rosie stay loud and fat if that's what it takes to make your unified voice heard by the elected officials who can, and should, do something about the myriad atrocities that are the Iraq War. Despite having the advantage of overwhelming support from the American people for their ideas and “efforts” to end this war, the Democrats are about to lose all of their momentum and, despite facing off against nine mongoloids and one mildly rational Libertarian, may just lose the election. Why? I think the reason is well illustrated in this comment thread. Many of you, just like your counterparts in government, have allowed an incoherent blow-hard and a fervent bigot shape the direction of this discussion.

There is absolutely no defense, especially considering that we’ve opened an unlimited line of credit for this war with the 1st Bank of China, for not immediately retooling as many auto plants as necessary to shoot out as many MRAP vehicles as our military has requested within 120 days at the most. Then, or preferably simultaneously, we should also be producing tens of thousands of batches of interceptor body armor, and whatever other life-saving equipment our military is requesting. These soldiers are being forced into harm’s way for no reason whatsoever. With that in mind, there is no excuse for not giving the soldiers every single thing they need to execute this ridiculous military plan so that they can, hopefully, come home in one piece. Now, I’m not saying we should get rid of all this antiquated, non-armored equipment. Heck, Bush, Cheney and McCain need something in which to be transported when they make their surprise visits to Baghdad…

So, back to my original point – knowing that there is no argument that supports the Bush administration on this topic (and most others), the jerk-offs who still feel they need to defend an indefensible position (hey, they learned it from their GOP counterparts in office), change the topic completely and bait their naive Democratic/Liberal counterparts to respond to a comment that warrants no response.

So, losers…get a clue – stay focused, stay on topic and let Rosie stay loud and fat if that’s what it takes to make your unified voice heard by the elected officials who can, and should, do something about the myriad atrocities that are the Iraq War.

]]> By: dono http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823637 dono Sat, 26 May 2007 15:28:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823637 Katie's premise is bogus and a big part of the problem - 'nothing is more important to the american people (than) protecting our troops.' That <em>might</em> be true if they cancelled American Idol but I doubt the American people really have the time to care about them with all the TV they need to get through in a day. Katie’s premise is bogus and a big part of the problem – ‘nothing is more important to the american people (than) protecting our troops.’

That might be true if they cancelled American Idol but I doubt the American people really have the time to care about them with all the TV they need to get through in a day.

]]> By: Shirley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823595 Shirley Sat, 26 May 2007 14:02:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823595 Nice to know CBS is helping INCREASE the PROFITS of the WAR PROFITEERS. You want to help our troops avoid injury? BRING THEM HOME! Nice to know CBS is helping INCREASE the PROFITS of the WAR PROFITEERS.
You want to help our troops avoid injury?
BRING THEM HOME!

]]> By: David O. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823587 David O. Sat, 26 May 2007 13:50:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823587 More of chimpy 'supporting the troops'. What great 'Merkins he and his Master uncle dick are. The manufacturer must be a Democrat. More of chimpy ’supporting the troops’. What great ‘Merkins he and his
Master uncle dick are.
The manufacturer must be a Democrat.

]]> By: Happy Republican http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823547 Happy Republican Sat, 26 May 2007 10:46:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823547 This is why the Republican Party is finished. This is why the Republican Party is finished.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823528 Gregor Samsa Sat, 26 May 2007 06:17:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823528 What is going on? First FoxNews approved of Michael Moore's "Sicko" and now CBS runs an expose on the Bush administration. Something is afoot. Or maybe it's more of the ole "rats abandoning the sinking ship". What is going on?

First FoxNews approved of Michael Moore’s “Sicko” and now CBS runs an expose on the Bush administration.

Something is afoot. Or maybe it’s more of the ole “rats abandoning the sinking ship”.

]]> By: jon eden http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823520 jon eden Sat, 26 May 2007 05:58:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823520 How many ways do people have to experience the contempt that Bush has for ordinary people--probably for just about everyone--before they finally get it. jon Connecting the dots: from human behaviors to ecosystem decline Http://StudentsForTheEarth.org How many ways do people have to experience the contempt that Bush has for ordinary people–probably for just about everyone–before they finally get it.

jon
Connecting the dots: from human behaviors to ecosystem decline
Http://StudentsForTheEarth.org

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823419 JPark Sat, 26 May 2007 04:28:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823419 The Cougar and the Buffalo have been around for years. Doesn't mean the people that need them are getting them. But you know that, don't you, getplaning? The Cougar and the Buffalo have been around for years. Doesn’t mean the people that need them are getting them. But you know that, don’t you, getplaning?

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823414 JPark Sat, 26 May 2007 04:25:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823414 Getplaning, are you kidding? Tell me, how many privates get those vehicles? Getplaning, are you kidding? Tell me, how many privates get those vehicles?

]]> By: getplaning http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823410 getplaning Sat, 26 May 2007 04:20:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823410 Check out the vehicles that they will finally be getting. Friggin' AWESOME. The Buffalo and Cougar vehicles have run over literally thousands of mines and IEDs with only two casualties. The two casualties occurred when a Cougar was hit by a shaped charge, for which as of yet there is no effective countermeasure. These vehicles are saving lives every day. http://www.forceprotection.net/ Check out the vehicles that they will finally be getting. Friggin’ AWESOME. The Buffalo and Cougar vehicles have run over literally thousands of mines and IEDs with only two casualties. The two casualties occurred when a Cougar was hit by a shaped charge, for which as of yet there is no effective countermeasure. These vehicles are saving lives every day.

http://www.forceprotection.net/

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823375 JPark Sat, 26 May 2007 03:53:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823375 Troll Babysitter, Hendler...even if he didn't lie all the time would still be disgusting. He hates women. I am guessing they are not impressed with his package. Troll Babysitter, Hendler…even if he didn’t lie all the time would still be disgusting. He hates women. I am guessing they are not impressed with his package.

]]> By: Troll Babysitter http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/comment-page-2/#comment-3823370 Troll Babysitter Sat, 26 May 2007 03:44:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/#comment-3823370 Jason M. Hendler is a neocon troll. The lies no longer work Hemliar. How do you feel about George Bush's pet immigration policy? I hear that Republicans are jumpng ship in record numbers over this policy thats the center piece of the Bush presidency. How do you feel about that? Jason M. Hendler is a neocon troll. The lies no longer work Hemliar. How do you feel about George Bush’s pet immigration policy? I hear that Republicans are jumpng ship in record numbers over this policy thats the center piece of the Bush presidency. How do you feel about that?

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