Comments on: Bush’s draft dodge. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:41:38 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: erock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3826877 erock Tue, 29 May 2007 14:47:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3826877 michael, re: John Kerry's discharge Who cares? I have never seen you pose this question on a relevant thread (or in a relevant year). michael,

re: John Kerry’s discharge

Who cares? I have never seen you pose this question on a relevant thread (or in a relevant year).

]]> By: Bruce Gorton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825987 Bruce Gorton Mon, 28 May 2007 18:11:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825987 USA Bush would have convictions, but his family connections bailed him out. USA

Bush would have convictions, but his family connections bailed him out.

]]> By: Arn Gunnutes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825588 Arn Gunnutes Mon, 28 May 2007 04:40:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825588 <em>The responsible thing to do is to force people to join instead of relying on volunteers? Is this what passes for progressive logic? </em> So, WHAT should TRAITOR Bush do to get to the level of the 200,000 troops he needs?? Maybe, since he's the "decider" and "commander guy", and according to Gonzo can do ANYTHING, he can LOWER the recruiting age to 12... <strong> "Come on kid... WHY do you and your Teddy Bear HATE America and the President and the TROOPS???"</strong> The responsible thing to do is to force people to join instead of relying on volunteers? Is this what passes for progressive logic?

So, WHAT should TRAITOR Bush do to get to the level of the 200,000 troops he needs??

Maybe, since he’s the “decider” and “commander guy”, and according to Gonzo can do ANYTHING, he can LOWER the recruiting age to 12…

“Come on kid… WHY do you and your Teddy Bear HATE America and the President and the TROOPS???”

]]> By: CaptainMantastic http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825392 CaptainMantastic Mon, 28 May 2007 00:13:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825392 The responsible thing to do is to force people to join instead of relying on volunteers? Is this what passes for progressive logic? The responsible thing to do is to force people to join instead of relying on volunteers? Is this what passes for progressive logic?

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825370 Uncle Ho Sun, 27 May 2007 23:24:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825370 Wiggy; you want to name draft-dodgers do you? The GOP is FULL of cowardly chickenhawks- John Ashcroft(7 deferements), Dickhead Cheney(5), GW Bush(deserter), Elliott Abrams, Dennis Hastert, Bill Frist, Rush Limpdick(pimple on his ass), KKK Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, Bill O'Leilly, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Bill Kristol,....need I continue? Wiggy; you want to name draft-dodgers do you? The GOP is FULL of cowardly chickenhawks- John Ashcroft(7 deferements), Dickhead Cheney(5), GW Bush(deserter), Elliott Abrams, Dennis Hastert, Bill Frist, Rush Limpdick(pimple on his ass), KKK Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, Bill O’Leilly, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Bill Kristol,….need I continue?

]]> By: USA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825300 USA Sun, 27 May 2007 20:33:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825300 "he should have the courage of his convictions and call for reinstating the draft." He doesn't have any convictions or courage, he's a psychopathic idiot just like all conservatives! Conservative blogs won't let liberals post! “he should have the courage of his convictions and call for reinstating the draft.”

He doesn’t have any convictions or courage, he’s a psychopathic idiot just like all conservatives! Conservative blogs won’t let liberals post!

]]> By: Pinget http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825196 Pinget Sun, 27 May 2007 18:12:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825196 Harriet Myers paid $23 million in bribes to keep Bush out of Vietnam. "Gonzales should be read his rights and carted away. But it’s the puppeteers behind him -- Rove and Harriet Miers -- who were deeply involved in the prosecutor hits. No one’s talking about her. This is the woman who went from head of the Texas State Lottery to nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court by George Bush, and no one asked how that happened. They said: Harriet who? But they didn’t ask how that happened. They said, oh, she’s loyal to Bush. She’s the one who did the payoffs to cover up the fact that George Senior got George Junior out of the war in Vietnam. Do you think that that was done just by daddy making a call? Money had to be paid -- lots and lots of money to keep people quiet -- $23 million. That is something I reported on BBC Television and in the Guardian newspaper. We’ve given them plenty of time to challenge that story about the payoffs. We’ve never gotten a peep from these guys. And unlike CBS, the BBC has not withdrawn the story that the fix was put in to get Chicken George out of Vietnam. No one has challenged our story, nor have we withdrawn a comment on our story that the payoffs were made to keep it quiet. - Greg Palast http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/061 Harriet Myers paid $23 million in bribes to keep Bush out of Vietnam.

“Gonzales should be read his rights and carted away. But it’s the puppeteers behind him — Rove and Harriet Miers — who were deeply involved in the prosecutor hits. No one’s talking about her. This is the woman who went from head of the Texas State Lottery to nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court by George Bush, and no one asked how that happened. They said: Harriet who? But they didn’t ask how that happened. They said, oh, she’s loyal to Bush. She’s the one who did the payoffs to cover up the fact that George Senior got George Junior out of the war in Vietnam. Do you think that that was done just by daddy making a call? Money had to be paid — lots and lots of money to keep people quiet — $23 million. That is something I reported on BBC Television and in the Guardian newspaper. We’ve given them plenty of time to challenge that story about the payoffs. We’ve never gotten a peep from these guys. And unlike CBS, the BBC has not withdrawn the story that the fix was put in to get Chicken George out of Vietnam. No one has challenged our story, nor have we withdrawn a comment on our story that the payoffs were made to keep it quiet.
– Greg Palast
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/061

]]> By: Bobby Hill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825163 Bobby Hill Sun, 27 May 2007 17:37:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825163 Couldn't you imagine Rush, Beck, Sean(I'll hold one in my mouth til it goes soft)Hannity,the two limpwrists on Fox and Friends (Steve Duchey and Little Boy Brian),Britney, especially Neal Boortz, Eddie Munster JR.(Cavouto),John (I've only had one drink)Gibson, Melanie Morgan,Michelle (Jackpot Baby) Malkin,Cutie Pie Couric,and on and on, whining about how we can't afford a Draft,it won't work they can't be trained, in two two years to fight etc! BS it takes roughly 6 months and they know it! Let those who are gay serve and be drafted,no deferments given!Everyone, men and women to be drafted. Combat Wounded Veterans to sit on Local Draft Boards,and in the Voting majority! If your mentally or physically disabled, the Board will use the Military and VA requirements to determine if your fit or not to serve! Start at age 26 and work down to the High Graduates! That's my opinion! Couldn’t you imagine Rush, Beck, Sean(I’ll hold one in my mouth til it goes soft)Hannity,the two limpwrists on Fox and Friends (Steve Duchey and Little Boy Brian),Britney, especially Neal Boortz, Eddie Munster JR.(Cavouto),John (I’ve only had one drink)Gibson, Melanie Morgan,Michelle (Jackpot Baby) Malkin,Cutie Pie Couric,and on and on, whining about how we can’t afford a Draft,it won’t work they can’t be trained, in two two years to fight etc! BS it takes roughly 6 months and they know it!
Let those who are gay serve and be drafted,no deferments given!Everyone, men and women to be drafted.
Combat Wounded Veterans to sit on Local Draft Boards,and in the Voting majority! If your mentally or physically disabled, the Board will use the Military and VA requirements to determine if your fit or not to serve!
Start at age 26 and work down to the High Graduates!
That’s my opinion!

]]> By: curmudgeon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825157 curmudgeon Sun, 27 May 2007 17:34:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825157 So, what sacrifice have Chimpy and Deadeye Dick made during the past several years? Oh, yes, their tax bills have been reduced significantly and they now have to figure out what to do with all the extra loot, which they won't really need when (and if) they leave office, since the corporations that were favored by their policies will ensure them a lifetime of luxury that neither could have imagined before entering office. So, what sacrifice have Chimpy and Deadeye Dick made during the past several years? Oh, yes, their tax bills have been reduced significantly and they now have to figure out what to do with all the extra loot, which they won’t really need when (and if) they leave office, since the corporations that were favored by their policies will ensure them a lifetime of luxury that neither could have imagined before entering office.

]]> By: Mr. Bush Goes To Hell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825088 Mr. Bush Goes To Hell Sun, 27 May 2007 16:29:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825088 <em>I do think we need a draft. Then, we would get to see who the draft dodgers (Bill Clinton) would be.</em> Yeah and draft-dodgers like Dick Cheney (5 deferments) and all the college "young rapeublicans". And MOST of the Rapeublics in Congress. And AWOL deserters like George aWol bush... Good idea!!! I do think we need a draft. Then, we would get to see who the draft dodgers (Bill Clinton) would be.

Yeah and draft-dodgers like Dick Cheney (5 deferments) and all the college “young rapeublicans”.

And MOST of the Rapeublics in Congress.

And AWOL deserters like George aWol bush…

Good idea!!!

]]> By: Wiggy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3825000 Wiggy Sun, 27 May 2007 15:21:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3825000 I do think we need a draft. Then, we would get to see who the draft dodgers (Bill Clinton) would be. I do think we need a draft. Then, we would get to see who the draft dodgers (Bill Clinton) would be.

]]> By: Lee http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824997 Lee Sun, 27 May 2007 15:18:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824997 Bush went AWOL on his national guard unit during Vietnam. Cheney received 5 deferments because he had "better things to do". And yet these two cowards sit up there on high, repeatedly spouting off about sacrifice and freedom, and commitment, and stay the course, blah-blah-blah. The hypocrisy is disgusting. Iraq is all about an oil grab, nothing more. The real shame in it is using our troops as pawns, and lying about the reasons we're there. A blind man can see through the bullsh*t! Bush went AWOL on his national guard unit during Vietnam.

Cheney received 5 deferments because he had “better things to do”.

And yet these two cowards sit up there on high, repeatedly spouting off about sacrifice and freedom, and commitment, and stay the course, blah-blah-blah.

The hypocrisy is disgusting. Iraq is all about an oil grab, nothing more. The real shame in it is using our troops as pawns, and lying about the reasons we’re there. A blind man can see through the bullsh*t!

]]> By: good grief, charlie brown http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824964 good grief, charlie brown Sun, 27 May 2007 14:52:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824964 Why the picture of boy hero, WorldWarZero part time pilot??? Why the picture of boy hero, WorldWarZero part time pilot???

]]> By: davidual http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824944 davidual Sun, 27 May 2007 14:32:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824944 Exactly! They do not have the man power for this present surge without extending deployment times and reducing leaves. There have been recent reports about 200,000 U S armed forces in Iraq by the end of the year. I'm like where the hell are they going to get them. These reports are just more Republican spin to gain as much political territory as possible from this new supplemental budget just passed. If we Americans believe that the administration is planning another surge in the fall, then this will induce even more anger upon the Democrats from the people. The American people really need to wake up and smell the media, and this also involves thinking for oneself. A much over used quote by Adolph Hitler explains what is happening in our country today, "A rulers job is easy, when men do not think." 'Men", of course, being gender neutral in post modern terminology. Exactly! They do not have the man power for this present surge without extending deployment times and reducing leaves. There have been recent reports about 200,000 U S armed forces in Iraq by the end of the year. I’m like where the hell are they going to get them.

These reports are just more Republican spin to gain as much political territory as possible from this new supplemental budget just passed. If we Americans believe that the administration is planning another surge in the fall, then this will induce even more anger upon the Democrats from the people.

The American people really need to wake up and smell the media, and this also involves thinking for oneself. A much over used quote by Adolph Hitler explains what is happening in our country today, “A rulers job is easy, when men do not think.” ‘Men”, of course, being gender neutral in post modern terminology.

]]> By: Sean http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824924 Sean Sun, 27 May 2007 14:01:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824924 Please don't give Bush any more terrible ideas. ~Sean Please don’t give Bush any more terrible ideas.

~Sean

]]> By: Pete Bogs http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824919 Pete Bogs Sun, 27 May 2007 13:46:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824919 <em>Never happen. If Chimpy reinstates the draft, we’ll see a level of political unrest and civil disobedience in this country that will make the 60s look like a sewing circle. Comment by TripMaster Monkey — May 26, 2007 @ 8:32 pm</em> absolutely correct... what's it they say about the Holocaust? never again? that's my motto for the draft... screw anyone on any side of the aisle who suggests it... Never happen.

If Chimpy reinstates the draft, we’ll see a level of political unrest and civil disobedience in this country that will make the 60s look like a sewing circle.

Comment by TripMaster Monkey — May 26, 2007 @ 8:32 pm

absolutely correct… what’s it they say about the Holocaust? never again? that’s my motto for the draft… screw anyone on any side of the aisle who suggests it…

]]> By: wdrane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824894 wdrane Sun, 27 May 2007 12:17:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824894 I have begun to see that the Republican strategy on the draft is similar to their strategy on the federal budget. On the one hand, spend the nation into such debt that hated social programs like WIC, medicare, etc, will have to be cut when Republican are forced out of office. Republicans get less social spending, Democrats are forced to do it for them and get the blame. On the other hand, Republicans will leave the military in such a weakened state when they are finally forced out of office that the Democrats will fee they have no choice but to institute a draft, especially if there is another crisis. So the nation gets a draft and the Democrats get the political blame. I have begun to see that the Republican strategy on the draft is similar to their strategy on the federal budget. On the one hand, spend the nation into such debt that hated social programs like WIC, medicare, etc, will have to be cut when Republican are forced out of office. Republicans get less social spending, Democrats are forced to do it for them and get the blame.

On the other hand, Republicans will leave the military in such a weakened state when they are finally forced out of office that the Democrats will fee they have no choice but to institute a draft, especially if there is another crisis. So the nation gets a draft and the Democrats get the political blame.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824889 Lora Sun, 27 May 2007 12:00:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824889 #105 Gregor, What you write is spot on, but it's undoubtedly lost on Mikey. I'm sure he can't understand what's wrong with his (mis)usage of the question mark. I'm even more sure that he thinks your moniker is your real name and is unfamiliar with the literary reference. Have a good day. #105 Gregor,
What you write is spot on, but it’s undoubtedly lost on Mikey. I’m sure he can’t understand what’s wrong with his (mis)usage of the question mark. I’m even more sure that he thinks your moniker is your real name and is unfamiliar with the literary reference.
Have a good day.

]]> By: My Corgi is smarter than your Prez http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824887 My Corgi is smarter than your Prez Sun, 27 May 2007 11:28:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824887 Anyone have more info on this? http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=86 <i>Also drumming for war on Iran are the floundering neocons and the Israeli lobby. Under orders from the lobby, Nancy Pelosi stripped from a House bill a stipulation that Bush must come to Congress for authorization before launching an attack on Iran.</i> Anyone have more info on this?

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=86

Also drumming for war on Iran are the floundering neocons and the Israeli lobby. Under orders from the lobby, Nancy Pelosi stripped from a House bill a stipulation that Bush must come to Congress for authorization before launching an attack on Iran.

]]> By: bostonqueerindalas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-3824883 bostonqueerindalas Sun, 27 May 2007 10:37:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/26/bushs-draft-dodge/#comment-3824883 Bringing back the draft would require that DADT be abolished because most of today's kids would simply tell their draft boards that they are gay. Very few would actually be conscripted because the old farts in the Pentagon would fight that repeal. Kids today think that gay is no biggie. Bringing back the draft would require that DADT be abolished because most of today’s kids would simply tell their draft boards that they are gay. Very few would actually be conscripted because the old farts in the Pentagon would fight that repeal. Kids today think that gay is no biggie.

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