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John McCain:

By Faiz Shakir on May 27th, 2007 at 1:30 pm

John McCain:

“I have tried to discourage my Republican colleagues from saying that September is some kind of seminal moment” for judging Bush’s escalation. A recent National Journal poll found that 67 percent of congressional Republicans say that even if conditions in Iraq have not improved significantly by September, Congress will still not pass legislation withdrawing U.S. forces out of Iraq.

UPDATE: Not everyone is listening to McCain.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), a loyal supporter of President Bush, indicated Sunday that Republicans will be ready by September to look at bipartisan efforts to draw down the troops that were part of the surge to help secure Baghdad. [...]

The senator added that, when General David Petraeus is reporting back on the progress of the surge in September, “I think most of the people in Congress believe, unless something extraordinary occurs, that we should be on a move to draw those surge numbers down.”



41 Responses to “John McCain:”

  1. IdahoMoe says:

    And that is why the American people are SO PISSED OFF…
    Get a f-ing clue Democrats.


  2. HeckuvaJob Brownie says:

    Finally, some straight talk from Mr. McCain.


  3. labs says:

    he’s tried to discourage his colleagues? when please? he hasn’t been around in weeks!


  4. unbelievable says:

    Did McCain have a moment of lucidity?

    That was the guy who we used to like. He should stick around and kick the brown-nosing Bush version of himself to the curb…


  5. BottomBoy says:

    We will never withdraw from Iraq. That’s like saying that we should have withdrawn from Germany in 1950s.

    We don’t control Iraq, we don’t control the world oil and that’s game over for the USA as we know it.


  6. profmarcus says:

    january, february, march, april, may, june, july, august, september, october, november, december, january, february, march, april, may, june, july, august, september, october, november, december, january, february………………. we’re NEVER going to leave…

    And, yes, I DO take it personally


  7. Coral says:

    Until there is a peaceable option, the US forces will need to stay to finish the game. But the goalposts of that game change daily as soldiers come home in body bags. Most civilians fear the consequences of a US withdrawal. Who would take control? Who would be most qualified and capable to restore confidence in Iraq?

    Regards,
    Coral

    http://www.coralpoetry.blogspot.com


  8. Wayne says:

    Did McCain have a moment of lucidity?
    Comment by unbelievable

    No, read the link.
    He is stating the current Bush plan is the best action.
    Still sucking up to Bush.


  9. Jimbo DUDE says:

    LISTEN DUDE……….

    THIS BIRD HAS VOTED IN THE LAST 50 TIMES……..

    HE AIN’T EVEN DOING THE JOB HE’S PAID TO DO, DUDE…..

    HE’S OUT CAMPAIGNING DUDE…… TOTALLY BOUGHT OUT DUDE

    I THINK THAT QUALIFIES THAT HE’S BEING PAID TO DO A JOB YET HE’S
    NOT DOING IT.

    GUESS JIMBO DUDE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT CORRUPTION IS DUDE


  10. Jimbo DUDE says:

    JIMBO STANDS STRONG

    A+ FAR SUPERIOR SERVICE FOR US AT MCDONALD’S

    AND REGARDING ALL THESE WONDERFUL SERVICES
    WE
    ALL
    DESPERATELY NEED AND PAY FOR………

    WE GET THE FRIGGIN DOUBLE F SERVICE
    EQUIVALENT TO THE GREASE PITS HEADING FOR THE DUMP

    AND I STAND STRONG DUDE THAT IS A REALITY

    JIMBO DUDE ONLY SPEAKS
    ROCK SOLID TRUTH
    ROCK SOLID INTEGRITY

    THAT’S WHAT JIMBO DUDE IS OTHER THAN TOTALLY COOL


  11. greenie says:

    Jimbo smokes a jumbo early in the morn


  12. james k. sayre says:

    Year Five of the Thousand Year Bush-Reich occupation of Eye-rack. Only nine-hundred and ninety-five years to go.

    But on the other hand,

    Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh, the Eye-racki-Cong are gonna win…


  13. Tundra says:

    UPDATE: Not everyone is listening to McCain.

    Wow TP, you should have said:
    We said that 67% said they wouldn’t pull support. That leaves 33% for our mathmatically challenged readers. Here’s one.


  14. marlow says:

    “We”l just let another few hundred men and women die until we can figure a way out of this thing that saves face…”


  15. proudleftists says:

    I don’t believe it.


  16. RUCerious says:

    Draw the surge numbers down? DRAW THE SURGE NUMBERS THE FU(K DOWN?
    Howza bout GFO?


  17. Tobey Tall says:

    The republicans will not leave while Maliki the Iranian dangles the Oil carrot in their faces………….


  18. pluege says:

    all the Spetember bullshit means is that we’re in for a summer of lies spewing forth from the bushliar-criminal regime and their US corporate media enablers telling us how things are improving in Iraq. There is exactly zero chance of the report from General Betrayus and the bush regime being anything but ‘we’ve turned the corner’ (again).
    .


  19. Rasta man says:

    Jimbo smokes a jumbo early in the morn
    Comment by greenie

    So; what’s wrong with that ?


  20. Gus Smith says:

    I watched Sessions make those comment on the Sunday talk show. How disingenuous are these Rethugs. Their cut and run date is now September, 2007. Hear that you terrorists?

    We are losing at least 100 of our fighting force every month, so the Repugs sentence of death extend to 300 more before we wrap this fiasco up. Wrap it up NOW!


  21. Gus Smith says:

    Since we are sort of tossing a coin on when this Iraq mess can be finalized, let’s slide into the end date democratically. Let only those soldiers who want to continue fighting stay. When they are all dead it is over. Simple and fair.


  22. Patrick says:

    John (I will say anything to be elected) McCain. I will never get the video out of my head where he is hugging chimpy like he’s the fuc*ing pope. What a pathetic old man. Having said that, he would be a slight improvement from what we currently have.


  23. billjpa says:

    petreus is allready hedging on “september” and now appears to be referring to “september or october”!
    Remember he originally was talking about this coming “Fall”. Well, remember folks– FALL ENDS DECEMBER 21 !!!!!!!!


  24. marlow says:

    The only time there will be “seminal moments” in Iraq is when the people begin to show restiveness towards this disaster. Other than that it will be just one long parade of death in the service of a maniac’s ego.


  25. Kate Henry says:

    By September the Republicans who are running for office in 08 will be starting to get very worried about their chances for re-election if they don’t do something to stop the madness in Iraq.

    I think it is totally repugnant that they can’t make that kind of decision because it is the right thing to do. They will make that kind of a decision to save their political skins. They really don’t care that another 3 to 4 hundred more men and women in uniform will die because of their inability to do the right thing. The deaths of all these men and women will stand squarely on the shoulders of the Bush Crime Family and their RepubliCON enablers.

    I hope that the American public will not be lulled into voting for these people again if they finally do the right thing in September. Every Democrat running against these RepubliCONs needs to remind the public how many people died while they dithered.


  26. bezelt says:

    It is truly shocking how the Republicans are ignoring the worst political behavior America has seen in many generations. They seem to have taken to the unethical like “ducks take to water”.

    A woman who worked for the CIA became the target of Republicans. And that looked like “sins of the husband were visited upon the wife”.

    A President used what looks like a phony reason to start a war. And the Republicans are not thinking impeachment. Not even is there a clamor to search for the truth of yellow-cake.

    The Joints Chiefs of Staff upbraided a U.S. newspaper for a political cartoon and there was a “business as usual” attitude displayed.

    The validity of the American vote seems to be in jeopardy while those whose job is to protect that vote hums: dum, dum, dum, dum dee dee, dum, dum, dum.

    Wise people, like EX President Carter, whose skills in diplomacy run rings around the Bush team’s diplomacy is called IRREVELANT.

    This group of neo-cons never saw a buck they did not want to spend. And as a result some 300,000,000 Americans are in hock for about $30,000 each. And these are “CREDIT CARD” dollars. The OLD CONSERVATIVES would disown this group of wild spenders.

    This group of neo-cons seems to believe they derived their authority from HE HIMSELF. Therefore it made perfect sense to demand that the American electorate “BACK -OFF” while the Bush team administered to their Iraq war.

    Not even the BIG STICK wielded by the American electorate on 11/7/2006 has affected the Republicans behavior. Nothing can deter the Bush team – when Mr. Bush believes he is right.

    And Mr. Bush has believed he was right throughout this WMD era. And Mr. McCain will not stray far from the Bush team’s ideas.


  27. Royston Vasey says:

    Wake me up, when September ends.


  28. pluege says:

    This group of neo-cons never saw a buck they did not want to spend. And as a result some 300,000,000 Americans are in hock for about $30,000 each. And these are “CREDIT CARD” dollars. The OLD CONSERVATIVES would disown this group of wild spenders.

    you’re wrong on this one – conservativesw were NEVER fiscal conservatives – they just hated spending money on people in need and were desperate to shift the spending (and increase it) to their corporate pals. Case in point – the conservative iconic reagan administration.


  29. radical1a says:

    Any of you people that think John McCain is Campaigning , I have a question for which party ? Even a Demwit knows as a RINO he in unelectable .


  30. radical1a says:

    Who proposes the Budget , The House and the Senate , who runs the House and the Senate. Democrats elected by Demwits , Bush just signs it or vetos it. Did you people not learn anything in the Government School in twelve long years ??


  31. radical1a says:

    Hey pluege what Reagan did was the same thing that John Kennedy the last time I checked Kennedy was a Democrat you Demwit


  32. Royston Vasey says:

    RINO
    The term implies that, despite party affiliation, RINO politicians are not “authentic” Republicans. The label is usually acquired because of a politician’s political actions, such as implemented policies, position on certain issues or voting records, are considered to be at variance with core conservative belief.

    Accordingly, the term does not imply that the Republicans in question are Democrats, Libertarians or independents – they are still recognized GOP members, unlike Senator Jim Jeffords (VT), who was called a RINO until he left the party in 2001.

    The term is often used to describe politicians at the congressional level, but can be applied to members of any governmental branch or electoral constituency.

    Some GOP members who use the term to criticize other party members claim loyalty to the principles of conservatism before the party. Sometimes these conservatives threaten to bolt the party or boycott an election if a supposed RINO is nominated, thus punishing the party by defeat.


  33. Dr. Wu says:

    “Drawing down the surge” is code for returning to Fall 2006 troop levels, ensuring the continued operation of the Halliburton/Blackwater gravy train while providing some photo ops for GOP candidates at honor-the-returning-troops parades in time for the 2008 elections. Sessions has been a Bush apologist and a Bush enabler too long to deserve any positive recognition at this late date.


  34. kasinca says:

    McCain is insane, has been since he received a kiss on the cheek by the chief thug of the crime family.


  35. RUCerious says:

    Perhaps McCain was infected with Neandertal genes when the kiss was planted.
    He seems to be authentically cave man.


  36. bezelt says:

    If the goal of the Bush team was to “export democracy” to Iraq then the Iraq war has to go on record as the dumbest war America has ever fought.

    The democracy exporters allowed the Iraqi government to be unoccupied for about four years. That is likely the dumbest move an exporter of democracy could make. It makes absolutely no sense.

    And if those exporters of democracy had let it be known in 2003 that they planned to allow insurgents to “patrol the streets of Baghdad”, America would have been in an uproar.

    The Bush team, perhaps, does too much of its thinking outside the box where rules, laws, common sense and other constraints don’t apply.

    Mainstream asked, in 2003, about the low troop count the Bush team was using. Mainstream wanted more troops – the Bush team did not.

    The Bush team is different.

    But in 2007 the Bush team, wanted more troops while mainstream did not.

    The Bush team is different.

    But it does look like the Bush team was wearing the white hat (in a war). Rather than take that “surge” back in 2003, when the task of keeping Iraq’s streets tame was easier, it waited until the insurgents got well trained, well dug in, well equipped with weapons and fiercely anti American before it chose to increase its troop count.

    The Bush team is different.

    I know of no significant task that the Bush team has accomplished with an “atta boy”. I know of no task the Bush team has put in front of the electorate as an example of their professional capability. Rhetoric is their “strong suit”. Performance is not. And the theme for the Bush team’s administration appears to be:

    BE AFRAID
    BE VERY AFRAID

    Quite unlike that President who told America:

    YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR
    BUT FEAR ITSELF.

    A nation’s army was heading our way.


  37. Jay Randal says:

    McCain is senile, so it would be in his best interests to resign from the Senate, and have himself committed to a mental institution.


  38. JPV says:

    WHY DOES GEORGE BUSH HATE AMERICA SO MUCH THAT HE WANTS TO APPEASE THE TERRORISTS???

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/28/iran.us.talks/index.html

    U.S., Iran begin first formal talks in 27 years

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — U.S. diplomats and their Iranian counterparts met at the residence of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki Monday for talks about Iraq’s security, even as other issues threatened to overtake the agenda.

    Aide Hasan al-Sneid told CNN that Al-Maliki is calling for dialogue on Iraq between Washington and Tehran, urging them to clear contentious issues between them, with the hope that Monday’s meeting will pave the way for broader talks.

    Al-Sneid also said the prime minister will reiterate that Iraq will not be used as a launch pad for terrorism in the region.

    But ahead of the talks — the first public and formal meeting between U.S. and Iranian representatives since the United States cut off diplomatic relations 27 years ago — U.S. diplomats insisted that unresolved issues of detained Americans in Iran and the Islamic republic’s nuclear program were not up for discussion.

    Tehran said on state-run media over the weekend that it has uncovered several U.S.-run spy rings inside Iran and would release more details in the coming days. There was no immediate response from the White House. (Full story)

    Tehran recently charged Haleh Esfandiari, one of four Iranian-Americans detained in Tehran, with conducting activities against the Iranian government, a charge dismissed by Washington.

    The State Department has repeatedly called for Esfandiari’s release, as well as for more information about three other Iranian-Americans who have been detained, imprisoned or had their passports revoked.

    In addition, Robert Levinson, an American and retired FBI agent, has been missing since March 8, when he was last seen on Iran’s Kish Island.

    Washington’s attempts to obtain information have been hampered by the lack of diplomatic ties between the two countries.

    Answer that one Neo-con fools.

    LOL!!!


  39. moo says:

    http://www.ynetnews.com/ articles…3405293,00.html

    Gaza baby treated at Israeli hospital

    MDA ambulance transfers baby with heart defect from Gaza Strip to Sheba Medical Center for life-saving operation

    9 Qassams fired at Negev since Monday morning

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3405551,00.html

    Man Killed by rocket attack in Sderot, Hamas claims responsiblity

    http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1116765642

    http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=one+dead+sderot+&btnG=Search+News

    Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton Condemning Recent Attacks on Israeli Civilians

    http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=275186


  40. Tom Wieliczka says:

    What hypocrites.

    Back when Clinton had our troops in Somalia, McCain made a speech from the Senate Floor demanding we get our troops out of there immediately because of the “Blackhawk Down” incident. Hey Johnny, how many more have died in this IRAQ SURGE which you support compared to Blackhawk Down?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TFKXHiefs

    Then we find out on Think Progress that (1) Boehner voted to reduce troop timeline in Somalia from one year to six months getting our troops out of Somalia and voted against the funding, (2) Boehner voted to move up the deadline to bring troops home from Somalia and (3) Boehner voted against $1.8 billion in funding for the operation in Somali.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/27/boehner-somalia/

    I wonder if Boehner and McCain would be making the same speeches now (including all the tears) if Hillary Clinton was in the White House?

    How ironic that ABC did that interview with “Osama been Forgotten” in 1998 IN SOMALIA from ‘An Undisclosed Location’ known as a Cave. Gee, I wonder if Cheney was there?

    Now these “John-Johns” along with McConnell and Sessions want to keep our troops in harms way and wait until September. Excuse me but how many more “Republican Pawns” are going to die in an Republican Chess Game known as the Iraq War for these “election worried” politicians? Thats all they care about! Whats their re-election chances if we are still in Iraq while they could give a damn about the safety of our soldiers.

    Now we read in the NY Times that the very Iraqis our soldiers are training during the day are trying to kill these same US soldiers at night! Great, just what our soldiers need!

    The soldiers have accomplished everything they were told to do. Saddam is Dead, The Iraqis have a Government and they now have their Constitution!! What more can we ask of them?


  41. davidual says:

    I think McCain was actually making a semenal point about establishing the need to change his underwear. War mongerers love war. It’s what they do, okay, the smell of gun powder, bombs bursting in air, rifle fire, tanks; they get off on it. Knowing this allows one to come to an understanding of Mr. McCain’s Semenal moment, and politely excuse him to “freshen up”. ‘Nuff, saaaiid!



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