Yesterday, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) said that “by September, when General Petraeus is to make a report, I think most of the people in Congress believe, unless something extraordinary occurs, that we should be on a move to draw those surge numbers down.” Similarly, Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said recently, “The handwriting is on the wall,” adding, “We are headed in a different direction, in the fall, in Iraq. And the president is going to be the one to lead the way.”
As more and more conservatives begin to break away, the fiercest proponents of the current course in Iraq will desperately try to sway public opinion by claiming that the September deadline is too soon and that great progress is being made. Fox News’ pundits are already leading the charge.
This weekend, Brit Hume said the September deadline was “not helpful” and “probably unrealistic.” Fox military commentator Bob Maginnis said “after September, there’s a lot to be done. … It’s going to take a while.” And Fred Barnes claimed Petraeus will report “great progress and say [Baghdad] is heavily pacified. And I think that will increase some of the public support.” Watch it:
While it appears most members of Congress are beginning to coalesce around the need to begin a redeployment in the fall, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said he is leading an effort to discourage his colleagues “from saying that September is some kind of seminal moment.” And he’ll have no shortage of help from right-wing media outlets who will spin the deteriorating situation in Iraq.
Transcript:
FRED BARNES: And I think when Gen. Petraeus gives his report at the end of September on whether there’s been any progress in Iraq, particularly in securing Baghdad, I think he’s going to report great progress and say that the city is heavily pacified. And I think that will increase some of the public support.
BRIT HUME: And of course what we have now is this whole idea that has taken — it’s out there in the public parlance — about how September is the big month. Not helpful to the president’s cause or to Gen. Petraeus’s efforts. You know, we’re not going to have all the troops on the ground until next month. And basically, they get the balance of the summer to fix the situation. Probably unrealistic.
LT COL BOB MAGINISS: Well, you know I talked to a general yesterday over in Iraq — in Baghdad. He said look, after September, there’s a lot to be done. And if all the momentum is going to stop right after Dave Petraeus reports to the Congress and to the president about our progress, then we’re in trouble. It’s going to take a while.

Fred Barnes should try it for a week fighting in Iraq !!
May 28th, 2007 at 12:18 pmBush will not pull the troops out as long as he is president. So September is just a date to be ignored by the Bush Regime anyways.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:19 pmFreddy The Beetle Barnes.
Yeah, a STINK beetle.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:20 pmF*ck the pundits!
It will give them something else to do….
I’m sure we could find someone to do the job. Ugh.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:22 pmThis weekend, Brit Hume said the September deadline was “not helpful†and “probably unrealistic.â€
After all, the Iraqi Parliament will be on its summer break the entire months of July and August, and they haven’t signed away their oil to US corporations yet!
Next, they’ll be saying we need send in more troops to supplement the surge and to wait until March. There’ll be some signs of progress in March.
Meanwhile 100 kids/month (+/-) will complete their tour of duty and be flown home in a flag draped coffin.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:22 pmI wonder where Fred got a copy of General Patraeus’ report? It wouldn’t surprise me if it was already written.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:24 pmThe Congress had its best chance to stop the war, by refusing to continue funding it, but they capitulated. When next September arrives, then other lame excuses will be used to continue the occupation of Iraq. Some in Congress will say lets discuss it again in March 2008, but then the presidential campaigning will be in full throttle so nothing will be done to end it. Bush will drop his fiasco in Iraq onto the lap of the next president.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:26 pmIt is amazing Brit Hume can talk…when his tongue is up Chimpy’s butt all the time.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:26 pmGood thing for cell phones so McCain can do that persuasive work with his fellow senators. Got to keep up the killing, it is McCain’s platform, you know.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:28 pmI should by a lotto ticket ’cause I predicted this. Remember that when Bush announced that he was going to escalate the number of troops soon after Petraeus was confirmed, all of the supporters of this occupation were telling us that we should give “Pertraeus’s” plan a chance and that it would be at least September before any judgement could be made as to whether the escalation was working or not. Where did the notion of September come from? It certainly wasn’t the Democrats who proposed it. Talk about arbitrary dates! I didn’t hear any of you wingnuts complaining that September was too soon then. Your near-sighted ideology is ruining our country and you’re too partisan to realize it until it’s too late. Supporters of this occupation want us in Iraq FOREVER!
May 28th, 2007 at 12:34 pmNapoleon didn’t want anyone to say he was “retreating” from Moscow either. He thought it might encourage the Russians.
Of course, McCain spent 5 years convincing himself that he was occupying a square metre of North Vietnam in the name of America. He’s that kind of optimist.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:37 pmAfter Bush departs office in January 2009, then the new president will be left with the train wreak in Iraq. If the new president is a Democrat, then he/she will be blamed for the debacle. Democrats in DC never learn anything, so GOPers always shaft them.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:39 pmIf McCain cheats his way into the presidency in 2008 election, then as president he would continue the occupation and escalate it. Expect 200+ US soldiers killed monthly with McCain as president.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:42 pmA month or so after September,Congress members will be going home for the holidays,and will not be seen in few months.
After few months the war will be forgotten again in 2008; will be replaced
by Hillary/Obama/Giulian/McCain stories and the daily polls,and who said what..
By the end 2008…Bush will be preparing to leave, another 1000 or more soldiers will dead,and another 200 billions will be spent by that time.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:45 pmShame on the cowardly Democrats who placed political considerations above doing what the people wanted when they voted Democrats into the mojority. Still letting the GOP frame the arguement. They didn’t learn a damn thing in November.
END THIS OCCUPATION NOW!!!
May 28th, 2007 at 12:49 pmLooks like there will be ample opportunity to see FOX for what it is and to call them out on it.
I’ve been thinking for a very long time how FOX would react to the inevitable Iraq pullout. Now we see it. And we’re just getting started!
May 28th, 2007 at 1:00 pmIt would be justified if their God of the Old Testament would smite them in their chairs as they spew their propaganda that costs us lives and treasure.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:06 pmI know I might have the tinfoil headcap on, but I wouldn’t be surprised if “something big” happens in late August so they can bring out the war drums to bang on again.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:13 pmccokzblog: situation escal8es ahead of g8
May 28th, 2007 at 1:13 pmBush cannot ever leave Iraq unless he gets the oil contracts, otherwise this war will go on till the next election so he can blame somebody else
Thats plan A -Z
May 28th, 2007 at 1:15 pmIraq is being held hostage by the United States. The ransom — agreeing to hand over a much larger portion of their oil revenues to the Big Oil companies than is the case in every other country on the planet. If and when such a deal in achieved, watch for the Repukes to then agree to reduce troop strength in Iraq, claiming victory (Mission Accomplished, Part II) just in time for the 2008 Election cycle. Remember Boosh’s nationally televised speech on March 17, 2003, when he gave Saddam Hussein 48 hours to leave Iraq? Although the entire speech is filled with many ironies, regarding oil-related matters, his warning to the Iraqi people included the following: “…all Iraqi military and civilian personnel should listen carefully to this warning: In any conflict, your fate will depend on your actions. Do not destroy oil wells, a source of wealth that belongs to the Iraqi people…” Well, at least he meant the part about not destroying oil wells.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:16 pmWhat is the bio on these fools? Has anyone really challenged them for being the fools they are?
May 28th, 2007 at 1:16 pmThe Mrs. came up with a heck of an idea. Since we are all now subject to One-Party Rule by and of the Republican Party, we should all register as Republicans and control the Republican Party from within!
May 28th, 2007 at 1:19 pmJillian there’s nothing wrong with that thinking. From day one duplicity has been the name of the game from BushCo. They offer 2 sides and when they need a direction they release the third piece-the variable.
The problem is FOX and Juan Wiliams and Democrats contribute to this by guesting on FOX. FOX is the primary tool that BushCo uses to control the message.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:22 pmWhat is the bio on these fools? Has anyone really challenged them for being the fools they are?
Comment by EasyRider
They’re certainly aren’t going to get challenged on FoxNews. But even the so-called “moderate” pundits in more legitimate venues are never called out in the mainstream for being spectacularly wrong or for carrying the administration’s water. As far as I can tell, once a pundit always a pundit. Once you get your foot in the door, no one is ever going to put you out on the street. I knew I should have been more careful choosing a career, dang it.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:30 pmthe FOX has rabies
May 28th, 2007 at 1:32 pmIt’s past time that we start asking why they choose to scare us with 911 and Osama when they deliberately stopped the search for Osama and Zawahiri.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:36 pmI think that every FAUX pundit who carries water for this illegal and immoral action in Iraq, should go there and spend some quality time.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:36 pmBush has added 30,000 additional troops to the ’splurge’ so if he does begin withdrawing troops in Sept. he can withdraw up to 30,000 and still have his ’splurge’ strength present. The troops are just numbers for the war profiteers making thousands on each soldier’s tour.
Sept. should not be spun around “progress’ or some “Petraes” report but should be spun around that no matter what, this is our time line and any further funding will be for troop withdrawal only. Bush and Petraes are not telling us in Sept., we are telling them that just as congress had warned, we funded you till September and now we are ending the occupation. That was our time line because:
We support the troops not troop destruction.
We support funding the troops not war profiteers.
We support funding that protects our troops from the Iraqi civil war.
We support funding troop withdrawal not troop exploitation.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:38 pmA big first step in the right direction would be to have REAL news broadcast so that everyone that is glued to their television can see it.
These son-of-a-bit*hes control the airwaves and spit lies and propeganda.
There has to be a way to stop this cr*p legally.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:39 pmThe military is going to invade Iran this summer by the look of things. The surge was created to hide the fact that it is in reality a staging effort to prepare for the Iran push. This would be â€redeployment” and as usual we (the people) are the suckers!
May 28th, 2007 at 1:44 pmThe Boosh Administration finds itself between a rock and a hard place in Iraq in at least one respect: They need opposing factions in that country (i.e., the various sects of Sunni, Shiite, Kurd) to settle their differences sufficiently to provide the majority support necessary in the Iraqi Parliament to hand over an outsized proportion of their petroleum revenues to the Big Oil companies. However, this entails the risk that, to the extent that those rival factions might band together, they might also collaborate to attack U. S. forces instead of each other. Such a conundrum…
May 28th, 2007 at 2:01 pmShip their sorry asses to Baghdad, set em up with their cameras and crews in Sadr city, and let them praise the Bushits from there.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:07 pmBrit Hume is a most disgusting human parasite, I can’t even watch or listen to him talk without wanting to beat the shit out of him. He is just filled with suppressed social resentments from his childhood which causes him to think he cannot be made to look wrong on any issue. So he makes up and distorts facts presenting them with an air of their correctness as if this were actually the way things are and anyone should be able to see it.
Could you even imagine this man ever having an orgasm…ever? I’d feel sorry for him if he wasn’t always spouting his drivel in the public’s face. What an excellent choice for moderator of the Repub.debates. Brings out the worst that could be in politics. Glad it’s you watching him and not me…actually I’m just glad it’s not me.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:07 pmif Maliki dont sign the oil contracts then Maliki will be responsible for an Iran Attack , or at least thats the way george bush is playing it
May 28th, 2007 at 2:07 pmIs this yet another example of the “fuzzy math” Chimpy was referring to in the 2000 Presidential debates with Al Gore? So, Pace is ostensibly charged with overseeing the expenditure of hundreds of billions per year of tax dollars and money borrowed from foreign countries? That must surely be cause for comfort.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:10 pmIf the chymp gives the order to attack Iran, do ya think the generals and admirals may say “Go Fu(k yourself”? Illegal orders should be ignored by the military. Just ask the soldiers who were at My Lai.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:12 pmNew Iraqi deadline is 20 January 2009, then it is all the Democrats fault.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:12 pmCpt Crep; Uuuuh, in case you haven’t noticed, there was a massacre at My Lai because the soldiers DID follow orders. If they refused illegal orders, no slaughter at My Lai. Duh!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:16 pmAhh, c’mon guys, give the gang another Friedman to get the job done. Dodging blame for one’s own fiasco is a lot of work.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:18 pmPlease take note, that the Republicans are not really talking about redeploying out of Iraq. They are talking about reducing the size of the additional SURGE troops. By this wording, if an additional 48,000 troops went into Iraq as a result of the surge, bringing 5,000 troops home would be drawing those surge numbers down and there would still be 43,000 additional surge troops left in Iraq.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:21 pmSAMARRA, May 22 (IPS) - At least 10 residents have died as the result of a curfew imposed by the U.S.-backed Iraqi government, local doctors say.
Residents in this city of 300,000 located 125km north of Baghdad have been struggling to find food, water and medical supplies. Vehicles have been banned from entering or leaving the city since May 6.
The Iraqi government and the U.S. military imposed a strict curfew on the city that day after a suicide car bomb killed a dozen police officers, including police chief Abd al-Jalil al-Dulaimi. Samarra has been a hotspot of resistance to the U.S. occupation of Iraq since close to the beginning of the occupation in March 2003.
After the attack, U.S. and Iraqi forces encircled the city and sealed off all entrances with concrete blocks and sand bags.
Local people told IPS that the main bridge in the city has been closed, ambulances have not been allowed to reach people, and residents are facing an increasingly dire situation.
“We are being butchered here by these Americans,” Majid Hamid, a schoolteacher in Samarra told IPS. “People are dying because we lack all of the necessities, and our government seems to be so happy about it.”
Residents and service providers told IPS that electricity has been cut.
http://www.dahrjamailiraq.com/ hard_news/ archives/ iraq/ 000592.php#more
THIS WAR HAS TO STOP
May 28th, 2007 at 2:25 pmWhere Nobody Is Accountable
BAGHDAD, May 21 (IPS) - Killings, crime, lack of medical care, collapse of education, the list goes on. But with the occupation by U.S.-led forces now into a fifth year,[….]
It is the occupation forces, particularly the United States and Britain, that must be held accountable, many Iraqis say.[…..]
now a million Iraqis have been killed for no reason, and many millions disabled or badly injured just because of some thieves in Baghdad and Washington,” Ahmed said. “We are prepared to reveal the documents to condemn them even if takes us a lifetime.”[…..]
A case for accountability could well be made. A judge from the United States wrote at the time of the trial of Nazi war criminals in Nuremberg in Germany in 1946: “To initiate a war of aggressionà is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”[…..]
The U.S.-led invasion of Iraq was judged by former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan Sep. 16, 2004 as “an illegal act that contravened the UN charter.”The lack of accountability appears now to be leading to greater support for armed resistance against occupation forces.[…..]
“The U.S. crime of deliberately crushing Iraqi infrastructure must be looked at as a crime against humanity,” chief engineer Jalal Abdulla at Baghdad’s Ministry of Electricity told IPS. “They did not have to do this to support their military effort, but they did it just to cause hundreds of thousands of deaths for no reason but cruelty.”[…..]
rs vent their frustration against what they see as an impotent United Nations. “The UN should be the place for asking those Americans why they committed so many crimes in Iraq,” said Baghdad resident Malik Hammad.[…..]
STOP THIS WAR ITS TOO MUCH
http://www.dahrjamailiraq.com/ hard_news/ archives/ iraq/ 000592.php#more
May 28th, 2007 at 2:34 pmUncle Ho, yes. I was referring to the present, I’d like to know how they feel about following those illegal orders back then.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:37 pmI doubt I’d find one soldier who thinks now that it was ok. OK?
What this seems like to me is a conflict between True Believers (for whom ANY mention of ANY kind of time period is emboldening the enemy, but “forever” doesn’t work either) and those whose political stock is set to take a major hit with their constituents if they don’t start to recognize reality pretty soon.
Could get ugly for the right, and especially for Faux Snooze.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:37 pmHi RU! How’s it hangin’?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:45 pm“draw those surge numbers down”
So they are going to keep the baseline level of troops that had been there before the surge?
May 28th, 2007 at 3:08 pmSeptember is just Charlie Brown’s next chance to kick the foot ball. If Lucy pulls the ball away at the last minuet it’s because the troop surge won’t be in place till December. Try again later Charlie Brown.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:26 pmB. S. you in September… (also in May, June, July and August)… It just never ends with these worthless lying traitorous election-stealing war criminals and their enablers and apologists…
May 28th, 2007 at 4:19 pmLet me repeat this post:
The military is going to invade Iran this summer by the look of things. The surge was created to hide the fact that it is in reality a staging effort to prepare for the Iran push. This would be â€redeployment†and as usual we (the people) are the suckers!
Debate?
May 28th, 2007 at 4:35 pmOff topic: I have a suggestion for Think Progress. If you’re not going to cover the totalitarian takeover of Venezuela by “liberal” darling Hugo Chavez, would you at least get a reaction to Chavez closure of the most popular television station in Venezula by his BFF’s Cindy Sheehan, Jimmy Carter and Robert Kennedy Jr. ? Inquiring minds want to know…..
May 28th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWatching “Patton” last night, I finally figured out who TP reminds me of. In typical “progressive” fashion, a reporter asks Patton, “So General, are you going to slap any more soldiers?”
May 28th, 2007 at 4:41 pmIn typical “progressive†fashion, a reporter asks Patton, “So General, are you going to slap any more soldiers?â€
Comment by valiant venus
The nerve of that reporter, asking Patton a question.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:04 pmZoooette - I figured you’d comment on that “war monger” Patton and completely ignore the Leftist totalitarian Chavez……Thanks for not disappointing!!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:12 pmZoooette - I figured you’d comment on that “war monger†Patton and completely ignore the Leftist totalitarian Chavez……Thanks for not disappointing!!
Comment by valiant venus
Don’t flatter yourself, Mighty Hagfish, I don’t read half of your shit, and don’t even bother to comment of most of what I do read.
It’s a holiday — tell us a funny dead kid story!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:16 pmSorry for the delayed reaction Uncle Ho, was out washing the car.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:28 pmThat must be a good sign, eh?
Ru: that’s OK want to wash mine? It sho’ needs it. Cooked up some ribs. mmmmmm.
May 28th, 2007 at 6:06 pmUncle Ho,
Yummy! Ribs!
Zoo Jr and I went to a BBQ place that just opened a couple weeks ago — fantastic.
May 28th, 2007 at 6:31 pmZooey; BBQ….mmmmmmmm. Was this new place in Moscow?
May 28th, 2007 at 6:43 pmUncle Ho,
Yep. Can you believe it? This is a univeristy town, and there is no decent pizza place, and this BBQ place is the only one for miles. Amazing.
May 28th, 2007 at 6:52 pmZooey- I can guess where you will be hanging out from now on.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:01 pmOnly on special days, Uncle Ho. :)
I have medical proof my arteries are clean as a whistle, and I’m keeping ‘em that way!
May 28th, 2007 at 7:09 pmZooey- I don’t think I can say that about my arteries, but I will die happy.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:18 pmWith a half-rack of ribs in one hand, and a hot link in the other, right Uncle Ho? :-)
May 28th, 2007 at 7:21 pmMistress Z and Uncle HO, BBQ at the RU Palace is Salmon, in lemon and orange juice marinade.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:30 pmRUC,
Just rub it in, meany. :P
May 28th, 2007 at 7:37 pmLater, you guys. I’ve gotta find something to eat. :D
May 28th, 2007 at 7:55 pmInquiring minds want to know…..
Comment by valiant venus — May 28, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Go ask your friends at some conservative blog. You have no friends here.
May 28th, 2007 at 8:16 pmWhere is John McGlaughlin when you need him ? He used to tell Freddy to shut the ___ up by yelling “Wrong” at him a few dozen times. Barnes is in the Dingbat 100. Welcome Freddy.
May 28th, 2007 at 11:08 pm“Mighty moron; only a fascist would watch Patton. Progressives prefer to watch Fahrenheit 9-11 or Going Upriver(John Kerry), or Sir! No Sir!. You should really try, it might even put some hair on your chest.”
Comment by Uncle Ho
Uncle Hor - I have watched the editing fiasco known as Fahrenheit 9/11 - - Wimp Prog men have been watching Michael Moore etal for years…..no hair yet on their chests. (You could grow more hair in a bottle of Nair than any prog cinematic creation!) Tooo bad it didn’t work for you. ONLY a Leftard would not appreciate what General Patton and the Third Army did to secure the final nails in the coffin of the Adolph Hitler and the Nazis. Have you always been such a whiny, miserable, pathetic “victim”/volunteer/idiot????
Tooodles…..
May 28th, 2007 at 11:42 pmVenus…have you ever considered that real heroes like General Patton would have chewed up and spat out cowards like the current neo-conservative chickenshit chickenhawks? Patton respected the United States of America and he would have gone against the current group of traitors in a heart beat. I find it humorous that the cowards on the Reich try to draw any resemblance to the current grab for oil to the great war in which we were defending ourselves against a real axis of evil, the Japaneses who attacked us and the Germans who followed suit and declared war upon us.
Chimpy’s phony war is a farce for chicks who claim to be neo-conservatives. That is a really sick thing to think about. The only example we have to draw from is mAnn Coulter and Laura Ingram. Two really sick bitches.
May 28th, 2007 at 11:49 pmIraq in 2003 is supposed to be analogous to Nazi Germany? That’s preposterous! Noone considered Iraq a threat in 2003–not Kuwait, not Turkey, not Saudi Arabia, not Iran, not anyone. The leaders of the US and Britain lied about a threat because they wanted to control that part of the world.
By the way, both of Bush’s grandfathers aided Hitler. People from all around the world who were left of center went to Spain in 1936 to fight fascism.
Everyone in the Bush administration made sure they kept their ass out of Vietnam. Plus Gingrich, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Thomas, Buchanan, etc.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:37 amSeptember was a date given by the administration. They have been telling us that they’ve been making progress in Iraq since May 1, 2003 when the president declared an end to major combat operations and announced that the United States and its allies had emerged victorious. More than four years later, we’re still making progress and the date for us starting to leave Iraq continues to be pushed back.
We have given the administration the benefit of the doubt long enough. Their tactics for obfuscating the issue and keeping us in Iraq have grown very old.
It’s time for the president to stop emboldening the enemy with our continued presence in Iraq and by trying to convince the American public that we’re making progress so that we should remain there longer.
May 29th, 2007 at 2:07 amIn September, Bush will come back to Congress and bully them into giving him more money since they have not guts.
May 29th, 2007 at 2:32 amZooey; sorry for the overnight delay, I logged off after my last post @1901. You bet your bippy on that rack & link.
May 29th, 2007 at 5:35 amMighty moron- I have no doubt that you goose-step around in your black SS uniform, lip-synching recordings of the fuhrer’s speeches. Could you please follow the example he made in his bunker at the end of April, 1945?
May 29th, 2007 at 5:39 amIt’s been “six more months” for five years running. Don’t expect a madman to change his mind, either in Washington or in Murdoch’s propaganda network.
May 29th, 2007 at 9:13 amWho cares what the Fox nitwits say anymore? They’re howling in the woods. The 28% that believes everything they say are off in the corner with their blankies and cookies. Humes, Barnes, and all the rest of these guys are the codgers in the balcony from the muppet show, only not funny, just irrelevant.
May 29th, 2007 at 10:16 amFox propaganda wants to keep the occupation going as long as possible…
…to keep the people’s attention om IT and NOT THEM…
…Fox propaganda must be dismantled…
…and its propagandists disgraced…
May 29th, 2007 at 1:03 pmI have a challenge. Post a quote from Brit Hume, Fred Barnes, Mort Kondracke, Bill Kristol or Charles Krauthammer where they’ve gotten one thing right about anything they’ve predicted on that stupid Republican propaganda show. I bet a million dollars you can’t. How can anyone listen to and take these clueless know-nothings seriously anymore. It’s as bad as listening to Lou Dobbs harp about our broken borders for the 5th year in a row. I like Lou Dobbs, and he’s absolutely right on that, but damn find something else to talk about already. And don’t get me started on the resurgent Newt “The Human Glute” Gingrich.
June 1st, 2007 at 4:44 pm