Honoring the fallen.
By on May 28th, 2007 at 11:32 am
Honoring the fallen.
A Memorial Day tribute:
(HT: DefenseTech)
At least 3,813 U.S. soldiers have died in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. The faces of the fallen can be found here.
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I personaly feel more sorry for innocent Iraqi women and children that did NOT sign of the this god damn war
650,000 dead and GOD ONLY knows how many without arms and legs at least 1 million
US STATE TERRORISM AT ITS WORST
May 28th, 2007 at 11:36 amHonoring the fallen – theres no point in crying over spilt milk
May 28th, 2007 at 11:38 amHere’s a set of resources to support the troops and their families.
May 28th, 2007 at 11:41 amBush spewed his hate filled diatribe today, so he wants more US soldiers to die in Iraq and elsewhere. Americans must wake-up to demand that Bush be removed from the presidency.
May 28th, 2007 at 11:45 am“At least 3,813 U.S. soldiers have died in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts.”
I am glad that you said “at least” because I suspect that the number we are fed is not the true number. The Bush administration only counts the soldiers who die on the ground in Iraq. If they die on a helicopter on the way to Germany, they don’t count. If they die later from injuries they sustained in Iraq, they don’t count. If they take their own lives due to the mental problems they are suffering after watching their friends blown up, they don’t count.
I believe if we did a true count of all the military who are dead because of the Iraq occupation the number would easily be double. The same with the number injured.
May 28th, 2007 at 11:58 amMy thoughts are with the families and loved ones of the 3813+, and specifically the son of a former boss, killed in Iraq two years ago; and with the families of the dead and injured, resulting from the shootout in my town a week ago.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:05 pmThere are no names of Fox pundits’ kids or relatives on the list, Neocons kids are also not there on the list….
These people ,instead, making good money out of this war like Wolfowitz and others like him…
Politicians also who keep voting for this war and spend billions of dollars on it…have no kids on this ‘list of the fallen’, or even in Iraq; but they keep talking about how sacrifices of others are important.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:07 pmKate you are correct.
The military has a KIA classification and a DOW (died of wounds) classification. (There’s another for accidental death but I forget the acronym.)
Unless they report both numbers, we don’t know the real death toll in Iraq.
And we will never really know the horrendous Iraqi civilian death toll.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:11 pmAppalling that ANYONE should die in a war at all in our age of knowledge and understanding.
We’ve evolved these massive brains capable of solving such terrific problems and finding such incredible (and peaceful) solutions.
Brains able to explore the universe and know how most of it works.
Brains able to send humans into flight – out of our environment and to another celestial body (the moon, and soon Mars).
Brains that have solved cancer (even if the cure is withheld from us).
Brains able to dissect an atom that we cannot even see.
Brains able to compose music, poetry, literature, art.
And when faced with a conflict, we ignore these wonderful brains we have and instead choose this? War? Death? Destruction?
Appalling.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:12 pmNot many GOPer trolls on TP today. They must be drinking beer and shoving burgers down their throats.
May 28th, 2007 at 12:45 pmJay,
May 28th, 2007 at 1:10 pmthe repugnican “patriots” are outside waving their flags, exhibiting their love of country – that’s all they do. Lip service. Rally ’round the flag with Bush. Feel-good but meaningless activity.
Just like the Fox pundits who have no stake in this war except that their stock portfolio looks better.
Real patriots are looking for ways to get our troops out of that bottomless pit of death in Iraq, and back home safe and sound.
Take note of Kate Henry at #5
May 28th, 2007 at 1:11 pmShe tells the truth. The number of dead accounts only for the ones killed in action. Those who die later are not counted.
Appalling that ANYONE should die in a war at all in our age of knowledge and understanding.
We’ve evolved these massive brains capable of solving such terrific problems and finding such incredible (and peaceful) solutions.
Brains able to explore the universe and know how most of it works.
Brains able to send humans into flight – out of our environment and to another celestial body (the moon, and soon Mars).
Brains that have solved cancer (even if the cure is withheld from us).
Brains able to dissect an atom that we cannot even see.
Brains able to compose music, poetry, literature, art.
And when faced with a conflict, we ignore these wonderful brains we have and instead choose this? War? Death? Destruction?
Appalling.
Comment by unbelievable
Plenty of brain power is not the problem.
It is a heart problem and you are no exception.
You do not understand the human heart?
Do you ever read the news?
Typical humanist bile. Yea we have evolved but same sad human condition
May 28th, 2007 at 1:25 pm“650,000 dead
Comment by Tobey Tall — May 28, 2007″
You’re an idiot! Where did you get that number from? moveon.org?
May 28th, 2007 at 1:30 pm“Americans must wake-up to demand that Bush be removed from the presidency.
Comment by Jay Randal — May 28, 2007″
Americans must wake up and realize that many of these military people are dying because we are fighting a liberal war! We have the most powerful military the world has ever known. This war should have been over 5 years ago but no, the liberal press knocks every little dirty thing these kids have to do in the face of survival! You people sicken me!
May 28th, 2007 at 1:34 pm“My thoughts are with the families and loved ones of the 3813+
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
zooey, spare us your liberal blubber! You people don’t give a rats *ss about our troops and their families! Go back to your room and prepare yourself for your American History class tomorrow!
May 28th, 2007 at 1:38 pmAnd when faced with a conflict, we ignore these wonderful brains we have and instead choose this? War? Death? Destruction?
Appalling.
Comment by unbelievable
Tell that to the muslim terrorists that took over our embassy in Iran in 1979?
May 28th, 2007 at 1:43 pmTell that to the muslim terrorists that bombed our embassy in Beirut in 1982?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists blew up the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists who took over the Achille Lauro in 1985?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists who bombed the disco in Berlin in 1986?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists who blew up Pan Am Flight 103 in 1988?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists who bombed the Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia in 1996?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists who blew up our African embassies in 1998?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists who bombed the USS Cole in 2000?
Tell that to the muslim terrorists who brought down the Twin Towers in 2001?
A few reminders of the TRUE meaning of Memorial Day.
Rank and Organization: Master Sergeant, Detachment B-56, 5th Special Forces Group, Republic of Vietnam. Place and Date: West of Loc Ninh on 2 May 1968. Entered Service at: Houston, Texas June 1955. Date and Place of Birth: 5 August 1935, DeWitt County, Cuero, Texas. Master Sergeant (then Staff Sergeant) Roy P. Benavidez United States Army, who distinguished himself by a series of daring and extremely valorous actions on 2 May 1968 while assigned to Detachment B56, 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne), 1st Special Forces, Republic of Vietnam. On the morning of 2 May 1968, a 12-man Special Forces Reconnaissance Team was inserted by helicopters in a dense jungle area west of Loc Ninh, Vietnam to gather intelligence information about confirmed large-scale enemy activity. This area was controlled and routinely patrolled by the North Vietnamese Army. After a short period of time on the ground, the team met heavy enemy resistance, and requested emergency extraction. Three helicopters attempted extraction, but were unable to land due to intense enemy small arms and anti-aircraft fire. Sergeant Benavidez was at the Forward Operating Base in Loc Ninh monitoring the operation by radio when these helicopters returned to off-load wounded crewmembers and to assess aircraft damage. Sergeant Benavidez voluntarily boarded a returning aircraft to assist in another extraction attempt. Realizing that all the team members were either dead or wounded and unable to move to the pickup zone, he directed the aircraft to a nearby clearing where he jumped from the hovering helicopter, and ran approximately 75 meters under withering small arms fire to the crippled team. Prior to reaching the team’s position he was wounded in his right leg, face, and head. Despite these painful injuries, he took charge, repositioning the team members and directing their fire to facilitate the landing of an extraction aircraft, and the loading of wounded and dead team members. He then threw smoke canisters to direct the aircraft to the team’s position. Despite his severe wounds and under intense enemy fire, he carried and dragged half of the wounded team members to the awaiting aircraft. He then provided protective fire by running alongside the aircraft as it moved to pick up the remaining team members. As the enemy’s fire intensified, he hurried to recover the body and classified documents on the dead team leader. When he reached the leader’s body, Sergeant Benavidez was severely wounded by small arms fire in the abdomen and grenade fragments in his back. At nearly the same moment, the aircraft pilot was mortally wounded, and his helicopter crashed. Although in extremely critical condition due to his multiple wounds, Sergeant Benavidez secured the classified documents and made his way back to the wreckage, where he aided the wounded out of the overturned aircraft, and gathered the stunned survivors into a defensive perimeter. Under increasing enemy automatic weapons and grenade fire, he moved around the perimeter distributing water and ammunition to his weary men, reinstilling in them a will to live and fight. Facing a buildup of enemy opposition with a beleaguered team, Sergeant Benavidez mustered his strength, began calling in tactical air strikes and directed the fire from supporting gunships to suppress the enemy’s fire and so permit another extraction attempt. He was wounded again in his thigh by small arms fire while administering first aid to a wounded team member just before another extraction helicopter was able to land. His indomitable spirit kept him going as he began to ferry his comrades to the craft. On his second trip with the wounded, he was clubbed from additional wounds to his head and arms before killing his adversary. He then continued under devastating fire to carry the wounded to the helicopter. Upon reaching the aircraft, he spotted and killed two enemy soldiers who were rushing the craft from an angle that prevented the aircraft door gunner from firing upon them. With little strength remaining, he made one last trip to the perimeter to ensure that all classified material had been collected or destroyed, and to bring in the remaining wounded. Only then, in extremely serious condition from numerous wounds and loss of blood, did he allow himself to be pulled into the extraction aircraft. Sergeant Benavidez’ gallant choice to join voluntarily his comrades who were in critical straits, to expose himself constantly to withering enemy fire, and his refusal to be stopped despite numerous severe wounds, saved the lives of at least eight men. His fearless personal leadership, tenacious devotion to duty, and extremely valorous actions in the face of overwhelming odds were in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service, and reflect the utmost credit on him and the United States Army.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:44 pmMURPHY, AUDIE L.
Rank and organization: Second Lieutenant, U.S. Army, Company B 1 5th Infantry, 3d Infantry Division. Place and date: Near Holtzwihr France, 26 January 1945. Entered service at: Dallas, Tex. Birth: Hunt County, near Kingston, Tex. G.O. No.. 65, 9 August 1945. Citation 2d Lt. Murphy commanded Company B, which was attacked by 6 tanks and waves of infantry. 2d Lt. Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to prepared positions in a woods, while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him, to his right, 1 of our tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew to the woods. 2d Lt. Murphy continued to direct artillery fire which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, 2d Lt. Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its .50 caliber machinegun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to German fire from 3 sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminate 2d Lt. Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad which was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards, only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound, but ignored it and continued the single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted. He then made his way to his company, refused medical attention, and organized the company in a counterattack which forced the Germans to withdraw. His directing of artillery fire wiped out many of the enemy; he killed or wounded about 50. 2d Lt. Murphy’s indomitable courage and his refusal to give an inch of ground saved his company from possible encirclement and destruction, and enabled it to hold the woods which had been the enemy’s objective.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:46 pmYORK, ALVIN C.
Rank and organization: Corporal, U.S. Army, Company G, 328th Infantry, 82d Division. Place and date: Near Chatel-Chehery, France, 8 October 1918. Entered service at: Pall Mall, Tenn. Born: 13 December 1887, Fentress County, Tenn. G.O. No.: 59, W.D., 1919. Citation: After his platoon had suffered heavy casualties and 3 other noncommissioned officers had become casualties, Cpl. York assumed command. Fearlessly leading 7 men, he charged with great daring a machinegun nest which was pouring deadly and incessant fire upon his platoon. In this heroic feat the machinegun nest was taken, together with 4 officers and 128 men and several guns.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:47 pmGORDON, GARY I.
Rank and organization: Master Sergeant, U.S. Army. Place and date: 3 October 1993, Mogadishu, Somalia. Entered service at: —– Born: Lincoln, Maine. Citation: Master Sergeant Gordon, United States Army, distinguished himself by actions above and beyond the call of duty on 3 October 1993, while serving as Sniper Team Leader, United States Army Special Operations Command with Task Force Ranger in Mogadishu, Somalia. Master Sergeant Gordon’s sniper team provided precision fires from the lead helicopter during an assault and at two helicopter crash sites, while subjected to intense automatic weapons and rocket propelled grenade fires. When Master Sergeant Gordon learned that ground forces were not immediately available to secure the second crash site, he and another sniper unhesitatingly volunteered to be inserted to protect the four critically wounded personnel, despite being well aware of the growing number of enemy personnel closing in on the site. After his third request to be inserted, Master Sergeant Gordon received permission to perform his volunteer mission. When debris and enemy ground fires at the site caused them to abort the first attempt, Master Sergeant Gordon was inserted one hundred meters south of the crash site. Equipped with only his sniper rifle and a pistol, Master Sergeant Gordon and his fellow sniper, while under intense small arms fire from the enemy, fought their way through a dense maze of shanties and shacks to reach the critically injured crew members. Master Sergeant Gordon immediately pulled the pilot and the other crew members from the aircraft, establishing a perimeter which placed him and his fellow sniper in the most vulnerable position. Master Sergeant Gordon used his long range rifle and side arm to kill an undetermined number of attackers until he depleted his ammunition. Master Sergeant Gordon then went back to the wreckage, recovering some of the crew’s weapons and ammunition. Despite the fact that he was critically low on ammunition, he provided some of it to the dazed pilot and then radioed for help. Master Sergeant Gordon continued to travel the perimeter, protecting the downed crew. After his team member was fatally wounded and his own rifle ammunition exhausted, Master Sergeant Gordon returned to the wreckage, recovering a rifle with the last five rounds of ammunition and gave it to the pilot with the words, “good luck.” Then, armed only with his pistol, Master Sergeant Gordon continued to fight until he was fatally wounded. His actions saved the pilot’s life. Master Sergeant Gordon’s extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty were in keeping with the highest standards of military service and reflect great credit upon him, his unit and the United States Army.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:48 pmSHUGHART, RANDALL D.
Rank and organization: Sergeant First Class, U.S. Army. Place and date: 3 October 1993, Mogadishu, Somalia. Entered service at: —– Born: Newville, Pennsylvania. Citation: Sergeant First Class Shughart, United States Army, distinguished himself by actions above and beyond the call of duty on 3 October 1993, while serving as a Sniper Team Member, United States Army Special Operations Command with Task Force Ranger in Mogadishu, Somalia. Sergeant First Class Shughart provided precision sniper fires from the lead helicopter during an assault on a building and at two helicopter crash sites, while subjected to intense automatic weapons and rocket propelled grenade fires. While providing critical suppressive fires at the second crash site, Sergeant First Class Shughart and his team leader learned that ground forces were not immediately available to secure the site. Sergeant First Class Shughart and his team leader unhesitatingly volunteered to be inserted to protect the four critically wounded personnel, despite being well aware of the growing number of enemy personnel closing in on the site. After their third request to be inserted, Sergeant First Class Shughart and his team leader received permission to perform this volunteer mission. When debris and enemy ground fires at the site caused them to abort the first attempt, Sergeant First Class Shughart and his team leader were inserted one hundred meters south of the crash site. Equipped with only his sniper rifle and a pistol, Sergeant First Class Shughart and his team leader, while under intense small arms fire from the enemy, fought their way through a dense maze of shanties and shacks to reach the critically injured crew members. Sergeant First Class Shughart pulled the pilot and the other crew members from the aircraft, establishing a perimeter which placed him and his fellow sniper in the most vulnerable position. Sergeant First Class Shughart used his long range rifle and side arm to kill an undetermined number of attackers while traveling the perimeter, protecting the downed crew. Sergeant First Class Shughart continued his protective fire until he depleted his ammunition and was fatally wounded. His actions saved the pilot’s life. Sergeant First Class Shughart’s extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty were in keeping with the highest standards of military service and reflect great credit upon him, his unit and the United States Army.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:48 pmDUNHAM, JASON L.
Rank and Organization: Corporal, United States Marine Corps
May 28th, 2007 at 1:48 pmFor conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as Rifle Squad Leader, 4th Platoon, Company K, Third Battalion, Seventh Marines (Reinforced), Regimental Combat Team 7, First Marine Division (Reinforced), on 14 April 2004. Corporal Dunham’s squad was conducting a reconnaissance mission in the town of Karabilah, Iraq, when they heard rocket-propelled grenade and small arms fire erupt approximately two kilometers to the west. Corporal Dunham led his Combined Anti-Armor Team towards the engagement to provide fire support to their Battalion Commander’s convoy, which had been ambushed as it was traveling to Camp Husaybah. As Corporal Dunham and his Marines advanced, they quickly began to receive enemy fire. Corporal Dunham ordered his squad to dismount their vehicles and led one of his fire teams on foot several blocks south of the ambushed convoy. Discovering seven Iraqi vehicles in a column attempting to depart, Corporal Dunham and his team stopped the vehicles to search them for weapons. As they approached the vehicles, an insurgent leaped out and attacked Corporal Dunham. Corporal Dunham wrestled the insurgent to the ground and in the ensuing struggle saw the insurgent release a grenade. Corporal Dunham immediately alerted his fellow Marines to the threat. Aware of the imminent danger and without hesitation, Corporal Dunham covered the grenade with his helmet and body, bearing the brunt of the explosion and shielding his Marines from the blast. In an ultimate and selfless act of bravery in which he was mortally wounded, he saved the lives of at least two fellow Marines. By his undaunted courage, intrepid fighting spirit, and unwavering devotion to duty, Corporal Dunham gallantly gave his life for his country, thereby reflecting great credit upon himself and upholding the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service.
SMITH, PAUL R.
Rank and Organization: Sergeant First Class, United States Army
May 28th, 2007 at 1:49 pmFor conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty:Sergeant First Class Paul R. Smith distinguished himself by acts of gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty in action with an armed enemy near Baghdad International Airport, Baghdad, Iraq on 4 April 2003. On that day, Sergeant First Class Smith was engaged in the construction of a prisoner of war holding area when his Task Force was violently attacked by a company-sized enemy force. Realizing the vulnerability of over 100 fellow soldiers, Sergeant First Class Smith quickly organized a hasty defense consisting of two platoons of soldiers, one Bradley Fighting Vehicle and three armored personnel carriers. As the fight developed, Sergeant First Class Smith braved hostile enemy fire to personally engage the enemy with hand grenades and anti-tank weapons, and organized the evacuation of three wounded soldiers from an armored personnel carrier struck by a rocket propelled grenade and a 60mm mortar round. Fearing the enemy would overrun their defenses, Sergeant First Class Smith moved under withering enemy fire to man a .50 caliber machine gun mounted on a damaged armored personnel carrier. In total disregard for his own life, he maintained his exposed position in order to engage the attacking enemy force. During this action, he was mortally wounded. His courageous actions helped defeat the enemy attack, and resulted in as many as 50 enemy soldiers killed, while allowing the safe withdrawal of numerous wounded soldiers. Sergeant First Class Smith’s extraordinary heroism and uncommon valor are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, the Third Infantry Division “Rock of the Marne,†and the United States Army.
Appalling that ANYONE should die in a war at all in our age of knowledge and understanding.
Appalling.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Our age of knowledge and understanding is fine; the problem is in dealing with a “Religion of Peace†that is stuck in the 7th century. You might not mind being converted at the “point of a swordâ€, but I’m not bowing to anybody’s so called god. We are making progress though, only 26% of “American†Muslims think homicide bombings in defense of their cult is acceptable.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:52 pmI have a memorial on my blog, if anyone would like to leave the name of a veteran in your family. It doesn’t matter which war they were in or even if they were in a war, as long as they are veterans. There is also a very moving video on the post. Please stop by and remember our fallen.
This is not a promotion of my blog, I’m only doing this for our vets.
Thank you.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:55 pm#17
We could tell them that. But they would just scream “Allah Akbar!” and try to suicide bomb our homes.
Radical islam must be dealt with.
May 28th, 2007 at 1:56 pm“Plenty of brain power is not the problem.”
Clearly it is.
“It is a heart problem and you are no exception.You do not understand the human heart?”
It pumps blood. If you’re going to suggest anything else, then you might as well go back to ancient Egypt where they thought the heart was the epicenter for the functions of the brain – including emotions.
“Do you ever read the news?”
Yes. I also read a lot of books. At least one every two weeks. You?
“Typical humanist bile. Yea we have evolved but same sad human condition
Comment by Flaco — May 28, 2007 @ 1:25 pm”
You’re blaming the wrong people for the state of the world. Try looking in the mirror. There you will find your villian, who happens to have a rather uneducated understanding of human physiology… LOL
May 28th, 2007 at 2:00 pm“Radical islam must be dealt with.
Comment by m12 — May 28, 2007″
Absolutely! But these dopey liberals think you can reason with them. The only thing that will reason with them is a bullet to their heads!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:01 pmWe are making progress though, only 26% of “American†Muslims think homicide bombings in defense of their cult is acceptable.
Comment by beefeater
Hey, dipshit, how many US citizens supported napalm over vietnamese kids, huh?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:01 pmzooey, spare us your liberal blubber! You people don’t give a rats *ss about our troops and their families! Go back to your room and prepare yourself for your American History class tomorrow!
Comment by michael
I see you have come to a thread where people may memorialize and honor the dead, and manage to honor no one — only hurl insults.
That’s who you are Michael.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:01 pm“Tell that to the muslim terrorists who brought down the Twin Towers in 2001?
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 1:43 pm”
I was telling it to the radical Christian terrorists who attacked a non-religious third world country instead of going after Osama bin Laden, who is still at large, by the way.
Stop acting like a blind fool.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:02 pmSoory to blogwhore, but alot of thought and tears went into A Tribute To My Big Brother.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:02 pmHe was killed in Vietnam for lies just like our soldiers are being killed for lies today.
Please stop by and tell me what you think.
michael, your examples are well taken. How many of them were not trained by the CIA? Stupid.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:05 pm“Our age of knowledge and understanding is fine; the problem is in dealing with a “Religion of Peace†that is stuck in the 7th century.”
You mean Christianity or Islam? I cannot tell them apart – they are both so violent, oppressive and out-of-control.
“You might not mind being converted at the “point of a swordâ€, but I’m not bowing to anybody’s so called god.”
Please… You’re far more likely to get killed in a car accident than see a third world extremist who can’t afford plumbing to show up on your door step with a sword. Are you really that naive and paranoid?
“We are making progress though, only 26% of “American†Muslims think homicide bombings in defense of their cult is acceptable.
Comment by beefeater — May 28, 2007 @ 1:52 pm”
Interesting… That corresponds with the similar percent of Christians who think homicide bombings of Iraq in defense of their cult is acceptable.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:06 pmRadical islam must be dealt with.
Comment by m12
I agree. All violent morons should be wiped off the face of the Earth, including you.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:06 pm“The only thing that will reason with them is a bullet to their heads!
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 2:01 pm”
You are an embarrassment to the entire human race, Hitler.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:08 pm“I see you have come to a thread where people may memorialize and honor the dead, and manage to honor no one — only hurl insults.
That’s who you are Michael.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
Don’t give me that memorializing crap! You traitors don’t care about our troops! If you did you wouldn’t invent lies about how they flushed the koran down the toilet! Or how about comparing them to Nazis? Or your hero kerry saying that they were terrorizing women and children in the middle of the night? Don’t try to sound sympathetic zooey, it’s too late. Many of these soldiers died because of the lies you disgusting liberals have spread about them!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:12 pmAnd meanwhile, they are trying to cripple the media:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/28/business/media/28carr.html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin
One quote:
“Since last year, the military’s embedding rules require that journalists obtain a signed consent from a wounded soldier before the image can be published. Images that put a face on the dead, that make them identifiable, are simply prohibited.”
May 28th, 2007 at 2:12 pm“I was telling it to the radical Christian terrorists who attacked a non-religious third world country instead of going after Osama bin Laden, who is still at large, by the way.
Stop acting like a blind fool.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
So, it would be ok for these radical Christian terrorists to go after OBL?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:14 pm“just like our soldiers are being killed for lies today.
Please stop by and tell me what you think.
Comment by Undeniable Liberal — May 28, 2007″
What lies? Be specific?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:14 pmJust remember that there are families without brothers, fathers, sisters and mothers, both Iraqi and American. All for nothing.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:15 pmThere was, and is, no rationale for this occupation.
The best the chymp can hope for is that Sadaam rises from the dead and takes control again. Not too likely, is it?
Send your daughters over there to service the troops, chympie, show us your heart is in the right place.
“How many of them were not trained by the CIA? Stupid.
Comment by Juan C — May 28, 2007″
None that I know of. Do you know otherwise? I didn’t think so.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:16 pmLook at the faces, remember them. All of them.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:16 pmRatfu(kinglyingbastards!
“You mean Christianity or Islam? I cannot tell them apart – they are both so violent, oppressive and out-of-control.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
Really? You mean our soldiers are killing terrorists in the name of Christianity? Dope!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:18 pm“All violent morons should be wiped off the face of the Earth, including you.
Comment by Juan C — May 28, 2007″
You have such a way with words. Jerk!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:19 pm“You are an embarrassment to the entire human race, Hitler.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
There the liberals go again, if you don’t agree with their misguided opinion, you’re hitler!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:21 pmUndeniable liberal
I’m sorry about the loss of your brother, I’m sure he was a wonderful man. However, to refer to someone as a “blog whore” for only mentioning a memorial for all vets…not just your brother, is ignorant, at best. I’m not competing with your or anyone and the amount of traffic I get on my blog is not important. I have visited many blogs who have offered memorials to leave a note of sympathy. It’s a shame you are dishonoring your brother with your attitude towards all other vet memorials. Grow up, undeniable liberal, or other may just think of you as an undeniable asshole.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:22 pmMichael, you’re losing the argument, as usual.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:29 pmYou are no patriot. Merely a fear-monger.
Get to Iraq and pick up a gun, or shut up.
Ignore the troll…
May 28th, 2007 at 2:30 pmHonor the fallen.
Don’t give me that memorializing crap! You traitors don’t care about our troops! If you did you wouldn’t invent lies about how they flushed the koran down the toilet! Or how about comparing them to Nazis? Or your hero kerry saying that they were terrorizing women and children in the middle of the night? Don’t try to sound sympathetic zooey, it’s too late. Many of these soldiers died because of the lies you disgusting liberals have spread about them!
Comment by michael
You continue to confirm that you are the type of person who shits all over a thread meant for honoring the dead.
That’s all you are, Michael.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:31 pmnow a million Iraqis have been killed for no reason, and many millions disabled or badly injured just because of some thieves in Baghdad and Washington,â€
May 28th, 2007 at 2:38 pm“You continue to confirm that you are the type of person who shits all over a thread meant for honoring the dead.
That’s all you are, Michael.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
No I’m not! I’m exposing you phony liberals who are here pretending that you honor these brave people. How can anyone believe you when you’ve done nothing but lie about them? See #36.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:39 pm“now a million Iraqis have been killed for no reason
Comment by Tobey Tall — May 28, 2007″
A million? Where did you get that figure, Michael Moore?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:40 pm“Honor the fallen.
Comment by SKdeA — May 28, 2007″
By lying about them?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:41 pm“Michael, you’re losing the argument, as usual.
Comment by SKdeA — May 28, 2007″
If what you say is true, then you should be able to explain how, to all of us? I didn’t think so………
May 28th, 2007 at 2:42 pm#34
Funny thing, JaunC.
How exactly do you plan on wiping out violent morons without using violence?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:45 pm#14 says 650,000 Iraqis were killed, #49 says now there are 1,000,000 Iraqi dead! Must have been a very busy day for our troops!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:47 pmHow exactly do you plan on wiping out violent morons without using violence?
Comment by m12
May 28th, 2007 at 2:47 pmEDUCATION.
“EDUCATION.
Comment by Juan C — May 28, 2007″
Well Juan, we better get you enrolled immediately!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:49 pmMust have been a very busy day for our troops!
Comment by michael
Funny, how you implied that your soldiers do the Iraqi slaughter.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:50 pm“your soldiers
Comment by Juan C — May 28, 2007″
My soldiers? They’re not your soldiers also?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:53 pmPlease… You’re far more likely to get killed in a car accident
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
Now there’s an inconvenient truth! The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates 5-600 highway deaths this Memorial Day weekend. Almost 45,000 last year alone! 2.7 million Injured, all tragic and needless. But deaths and injuries are more tragic and needless in our Armed Forces? When our soldiers were conscripted into the military they probably weren’t told that there might be a risk. And of course they would be too stupid to know that. We lost almost 60,000 KIA and who knows how many injured to an ill-conceived democrat adventure called Viet Nam. We had no business there. We are now in a struggle of cultures which you may ignore at your peril. What size burka do you or your women need? They should be available on allaakbar.com soon.
May 28th, 2007 at 2:57 pmIt’s called perspective.
#56
I’ll let you be the one to try to go to Iran and provide this education. Good luck!
May 28th, 2007 at 2:58 pm“It’s called perspective.
Comment by beefeater — May 28, 2007″
You won’t find much of that on the left in this country!
May 28th, 2007 at 3:01 pm“It’s called perspective.
Comment by beefeater — May 28, 2007″
M12, they just don’t get it!
May 28th, 2007 at 3:02 pmI still haven’t heard back from Tobey on where he got his ridiculous figures from!
May 28th, 2007 at 3:04 pmhttp://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/13390970/detail.html
Up near Boston Liberals Honor The Troops by stealing the Flags off of dead Soldiers Graves and Burning them in trash receptacles around the town Square . Someone should exercise their First amendment Right to Club them to Death , hehehe then they could call it Art and get a grant from the endowment for the arts for future works.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pmI’ll let you be the one to try to go to Iran and provide this education. Good luck!
Comment by m12
I was speaking about the real violents…you know that country that has invaded and occupied other countries in 180 occasions? Guess which one is that?
Or the country that has more murders in a single year for developed countries?
May 28th, 2007 at 3:09 pm#60,
May 28th, 2007 at 3:13 pmThe chance of dying in a highway accident over the period of 1 year is .015%, that of dying in combat is .72%. If one uses statistics to support a risk, the base must be considered.
“Liberals Honor The Troops by stealing the Flags off of dead Soldiers Graves and Burning them in trash receptacles
Comment by radical1a — May 28, 2007″
And they want us to believe that they honor the fallen? They pretend but we know their true traitorous colors!
May 28th, 2007 at 3:19 pm“The chance of dying in a highway accident over the period of 1 year is .015%, that of dying in combat is .72%.
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 28, 2007″
Do I have to remind you that this is a all volunteer military? When they enlisted, they knew that one day they might have to use the skills that they learned in training.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:23 pmHey juan its the country that stopped a brutal dictator who like to throw children into wood chippers while forcing the parents to watch, rape rooms for fun and games . and the kurd population in northern iraq to test WMDs on . Oh Darn , I Forgot Liberal Hero Jimmy Carter never met a Dictator that he did not like .You know nothing and care for nothing but yourself as you enjoy your nice safe existence . Our troops are not fighting the Iraq War , they are fighting the war on terror , in the Iraq Theater . As for your Highest Murder Rate , they are in Blue States like , Ca. , Il. , N.J. , Ma. where CCP permits are issued . In those States they pass new gun laws and the Criminals Laugh and smile knowing that they are safe on the job : )
May 28th, 2007 at 3:29 pm“Do I have to remind you that this is a all volunteer military? When they enlisted, they knew that one day they might have to use the skills that they learned in training.
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007″
That’s tripe and you know it These people were told when they went on their first tour, they would spend no more time in a combat zone then one year and they then would have a year in stateside training. There are some who have been there for a total of 3 1/2 years since the war started 4 1/6 years ago. Enlistments have been extended through the ’stop loss’ program. This administration has broken promises from day one.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:33 pmwell WaltTheMan at least they are not picking up trash for Bill Clinton and the Dictator in Hati like they were 10 yrs. ago
May 28th, 2007 at 3:37 pm#69 – radical1a,
This chart seems to dispute your statement about the distribution of murder rates in the states:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=169&scid=12#MRord
May 28th, 2007 at 3:40 pmHey Juan C Would you please go over to Baghdad and Educate the Terrorist so I can listen to your screams and watch your head rool across the floor on Youtube ? Please .
May 28th, 2007 at 3:42 pm“So, it would be ok for these radical Christian terrorists to go after OBL?
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 2:14 pm”
In our culture, and most of the modern cultures, going after someone who has attacked you FIRST is acceptable. I personally don’t think it should be done for revenge, but for justice. As in, stopping him from doing it again.
But they didn’t go after Osama – they pre-emptively (which violates international law)went after a third world country without an Air Force. Do you see our frustration? We supported an action to stop Osama – not an action to let Osama run around free while we waste lives, efforts and dollars on creating a civil war.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:50 pm“None that I know of. Do you know otherwise? I didn’t think so.
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 2:16 pm”
Do you really need us to post the Saddam and Rumsfeld handshake photo yet again?
May 28th, 2007 at 3:52 pmEnlistments have been extended through the ’stop loss’ program. This administration has broken promises from day one.
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 28, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Many of us in the Military, volunteers and draftees, had our tours extended for Kennedy’s “Cuban Missile Crisis†and ended up in his little adventure in Viet Nam. Sometimes what they told you in kindergarten is true. Life ain’t fair.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:52 pm#71 – radical1a,
There was 1 death and 3 wounded in Haiti:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_casualties_of_war
May 28th, 2007 at 3:52 pm“Really? You mean our soldiers are killing terrorists in the name of Christianity? Dope!
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 2:18 pm”
No, I mean the idiot in the White House sending our soldiers to fight his radical holy war that Bush has said was instigated because his Christian god told him to attack Iraq.
No, I don’t have any dope. Go check your local primary school playground.I’m sure your kid is selling it to the third graders.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:55 pm“There the liberals go again, if you don’t agree with their misguided opinion, you’re hitler!
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 2:21 pm”
No, you’re Hitler if you believe killing people based on their religious beliefs is acceptable.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:57 pm#76 – beefeater,
May 28th, 2007 at 3:58 pmThe ’stop loss’ program of the G W Bush administration included military included people who had put in their 20 years and had been retired for over a year.
“How exactly do you plan on wiping out violent morons without using violence?
Comment by m12 — May 28, 2007 @ 2:45 pm”
Remove guard railing on the side of the mountains, warning labels off electrical appliances and plastic bags. You idiots will take care of yourselves. Darwin style.
May 28th, 2007 at 3:59 pmHey WaltTheMan
perhaps your liberal links are wrong or lie . try these , they are not made up by some nerd at moveon.org
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/
http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/dataonline/Search/Crime/State/statebystatelist.cfm
May 28th, 2007 at 4:03 pm“What size burka do you or your women need? They should be available on allaakbar.com soon.
It’s called perspective.
Comment by beefeater — May 28, 2007 @ 2:57 pm”
No it’s called paranoia.
The bible says the same violent kill-non-believers garbage, yet most Christians don’t. However, you aren’t willing to accept that most Muslims ignore the Koran telling them to kill people equally.
You fear a small handful of people who are going to kill people. Usually themselves. And you think the way to fight them is by letting Osama run loose and getting our troops killed in a country that had nothing to do with radical Islam? Though, thanks to you guys, radical Islam is officially the new Iraqi motto. Great job with the democracy building… Sheesh..
May 28th, 2007 at 4:05 pm“When they enlisted, they knew that one day they might have to use the skills that they learned in training.
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 3:23 pm”
And they thought they’d be doing it to DEFEND our country – not invading a sovereign nation for the sake of regime change, occupation and oil.
May 28th, 2007 at 4:07 pm#82 – radical1a,
May 28th, 2007 at 4:14 pmThe charts that you provided agree with the one I provided you. Sorry to take so l;ong to respond, but, I had to write an Access query to compare the data.
The ’stop loss’ program of the G W Bush administration included military included people who had put in their 20 years and had been retired for over a year.
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 28, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
So you agree, sometimes life ain’t fair.
May 28th, 2007 at 4:24 pm“That’s tripe and you know it
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 28, 2007″
You liberals have cornered the market on tripe! These people enlisted knowing that they might have to go off and fight a war. Isn’t that what they are trained to do?
May 28th, 2007 at 4:30 pmNo beefeater, I’m saying that the G W Bush Admin is not willing to live up to its obligations and our nation’s commitments. Life is not fair when a billionaire pays less in taxes the I do.
May 28th, 2007 at 4:32 pmI leave for two hours, and I see Michael is still here — shitting all over himself.
May 28th, 2007 at 4:37 pm#87 – michael,
May 28th, 2007 at 4:44 pmTheir training has been compromised because the training at home is not happening. Weapons systems have changed since 2003. The basic philosophy of the Bush Admin is to give a soldier a new weapon or resource and let the person learn to use in conflict. Another tactic is to refuse to implement the technologies that have been designed to improve their survival rate; i.e., better armored vehicles.
“But they didn’t go after Osama
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
They did go after him and continue to this day. Are we suppose to deploy our entire military to track down one man? Our military is not trained for that. They are trained to kill the bad guy!
May 28th, 2007 at 4:46 pm“Do you really need us to post the Saddam and Rumsfeld handshake photo yet again?
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
Go right ahead? What is that going to prove?
May 28th, 2007 at 4:47 pmHey Juan C Would you please go over to Baghdad and Educate the Terrorist so I can listen to your screams and watch your head rool across the floor on Youtube ? Please .
Comment by radical1a
Funny stuff, being you the ones that invaded a country and now bitch about how your soldiers are being treated by people there.
May 28th, 2007 at 4:48 pm“No, I mean the idiot in the White House sending our soldiers to fight his radical holy war
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
His holy war? What is his God telling him to do in His name?
May 28th, 2007 at 4:50 pm“I leave for two hours, and I see Michael is still here — shitting all over himself.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007 @ 4:37 pm”
They must be paying him a fortune…
May 28th, 2007 at 4:53 pmMay their souls rest in peace.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/05/on-this-our-memorial-day-remember.html#links
May 28th, 2007 at 4:54 pm“You fear a small handful of people who are going to kill people. Usually themselves. And you think the way to fight them is by letting Osama run loose and getting our troops killed in a country that had nothing to do with radical Islam? Though, thanks to you guys, radical Islam is officially the new Iraqi motto. Great job with the democracy building… Sheesh..
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
Refer back to post #17?
May 28th, 2007 at 4:54 pm“650,000 dead…”
Comment by Tobey Tall — May 28, 2007 @ 11:36 am
It’s bad enough, but not that bad.
“You fear a small handful of people who are going to kill people. Usually themselves.”
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Now there’s a novel take on the situation. If nothing else, liberals are a constant source of fantastic ways of making wrong/bad seem ok/good. Thanks for the laugh,unbe. ;)
May 28th, 2007 at 4:54 pm“They did go after him and continue to this day.”
Not really. Sending a couple troops out there isn’t really an effort.
“Are we suppose to deploy our entire military to track down one man?
No one suggested that.
But it would have been nice if they’d thought about leaving Iraq alone and focusing on Saddam. You did hear Bush say that he didn’t know where Osama was and didn’t think about him right?
“Our military is not trained for that. They are trained to kill the bad guy!
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 4:46 pm”
You just contradicted yourself.
If that is so – you’d better hide…
May 28th, 2007 at 4:56 pm“And they thought they’d be doing it to DEFEND our country – not invading a sovereign nation for the sake of regime change, occupation and oil.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
Really? They were told that the only time they would be called on to kill others was defend the shores of the USA? We invaded Iraq for oil? Care to explain that one? I’m getting to you zooey!
May 28th, 2007 at 4:57 pm“What is that going to prove?
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 4:47 pm”
Juan’s statement.
May 28th, 2007 at 4:57 pm“Life is not fair when a billionaire pays less in taxes the I do.
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 28, 2007″
Who are you referring to?
May 28th, 2007 at 4:58 pm“His holy war? What is his God telling him to do in His name?
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 4:50 pm”
Invade Iraq.
May 28th, 2007 at 4:59 pmMommy let you out of your room for a break from your homework? Why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge or does CO2 cause warming? Explain?
May 28th, 2007 at 5:00 pm“Their training has been compromised because the training at home is not happening. Weapons systems have changed since 2003.
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 28, 2007″
Now hear this terrorists, we are going to stop this war so that we can provide training, on new weapon systems, to those who are trying to kill you. What an idiot!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:03 pm“Now there’s a novel take on the situation. If nothing else, liberals are a constant source of fantastic ways of making wrong/bad seem ok/good.”
If you got that from my post, then you need a refresh course on reading comprehension.
“Thanks for the laugh,unbe. ;)
Comment by upright left — May 28, 2007 @ 4:54 pm”
It’s why we have all those liberal shows on Comedy Central and your side had, momentarily, Dennis “Cancelled” Miller…
May 28th, 2007 at 5:03 pmMILLETT, LEWIS L.
Rank and organization: Captain, U.S. Army, Company E, 27th Infantry Regiment. Place and date: Vicinity of Soam-Ni, Korea, 7 February 1951. Entered service at: Mechanic Falls, Maine. Born: 15 December 1920, Mechanic Falls, Maine. G.O. No.: 69, 2 August 1951. Citation: Capt. Millett, Company E, distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty in action. While personally leading his company in an attack against a strongly held position he noted that the 1st Platoon was pinned down by small-arms, automatic, and antitank fire. Capt. Millett ordered the 3d Platoon forward, placed himself at the head of the 2 platoons, and, with fixed bayonet, led the assault up the fire-swept hill. In the fierce charge Capt. Millett bayoneted 2 enemy soldiers and boldly continued on, throwing grenades, clubbing and bayoneting the enemy, while urging his men forward by shouting encouragement. Despite vicious opposing fire, the whirlwind hand-to-hand assault carried to the crest of the hill. His dauntless leadership and personal courage so inspired his men that they stormed into the hostile position and used their bayonets with such lethal effect that the enemy fled in wild disorder. During this fierce onslaught Capt. Millett was wounded by grenade fragments but refused evacuation until the objective was taken and firmly secured. The superb leadership, conspicuous courage, and consummate devotion to duty demonstrated by Capt. Millett were directly responsible for the successful accomplishment of a hazardous mission and reflect the highest credit on himself and the heroic traditions of the military service.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:04 pm“Funny stuff, being you the ones that invaded a country
Comment by Juan C — May 28, 2007″
You the ones? No liberals voted for this war?
May 28th, 2007 at 5:04 pm“Really? They were told that the only time they would be called on to kill others was defend the shores of the USA? We invaded Iraq for oil? Care to explain that one? I’m getting to you zooey!
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 4:57 pm”
I don’t understand your idiot-speak. Throw out some facts and I’ll be happy to educate you on understanding them.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:06 pmThey must be paying him a fortune…
Comment by unbelievable
If someone is paying him, they’re not getting their money’s worth.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:06 pmIt’s bad enough, but not that bad.
Comment by upright left
If I understood well this comment, you are truly a POS. Civilians dead, even if only one is killed, is a human disgrace. No wonder why some people celebrated or felt a sense of justice after the planes on 9/11.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:07 pmMichael, Michael, Michael.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:08 pmJust in from a weekend of Americana. Lots of camping, parades, small towns, flags, and the like. My kids really enjoy it and met and interacted with many vets and families of vets. Everyone was warm and welcoming. Glad you too had the chance to share in the honoring of the great servicemen and servicewomen of the USA. Didn’t see any flag burning or blind rage but I did see a few folks who seemed to be Muslim. How can I tell which ones want to kill me? I wasn’t sure. They were really good at blending in and seeming to enjoy the festivities as well. I wish now I had just killed them and got it over with. Shit, I wouldn’t want them following me home and all. Better to fight them there.
“And they thought they’d be doing it to DEFEND our country – not invading a sovereign nation for the sake of regime change, occupation and oil.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
Really? They were told that the only time they would be called on to kill others was defend the shores of the USA? We invaded Iraq for oil? Care to explain that one? I’m getting to you zooey!
Comment by michael
Michael’s kicking his own ass again.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:08 pm“#
“650,000 dead…â€
Comment by Tobey Tall — May 28, 2007 @ 11:36 am
It’s bad enough, but not that bad”
The true count is between 65 – 70 thousand. But they spend too much time watching the fat dyke rosie! I don’t know where they got this figure from but I’ve heard many loons quoting it!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:08 pmWhat an idiot!
Comment by michael
That was really funny.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:09 pm“But it would have been nice if they’d thought about leaving Iraq alone and focusing on Saddam.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
How could they focus on Saddam and leave Iraq alone?
May 28th, 2007 at 5:10 pmYou the ones? No liberals voted for this war?
Comment by michael
Hahahahaha. Go to sleep.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:11 pm“Invade Iraq.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
Wow! You’re pretty close with the dude in the White House!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:12 pm655,000 dead civilians.
There you go, Mikey.
A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:14 pmMIYAMURA, HIROSHI H.
Rank and organization: Corporal, U.S. Army, Company H, 7th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division. Place and date: Near Taejon-ni, Korea, 24 and 25 April 1951. Entered service at: Gallup, N. Mex. Birth: Gallup, N. Mex. G.O. No.: 85, 4 November 1953. Citation: Cpl. Miyamura, a member of Company H, distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty in action against the enemy. On the night of 24 April, Company H was occupying a defensive position when the enemy fanatically attacked threatening to overrun the position. Cpl. Miyamura, a machine gun squad leader, aware of the imminent danger to his men unhesitatingly jumped from his shelter wielding his bayonet in close hand-to-hand combat killing approximately 10 of the enemy. Returning to his position, he administered first aid to the wounded and directed their evacuation. As another savage assault hit the line, he manned his machine gun and delivered withering fire until his ammunition was expended. He ordered the squad to withdraw while he stayed behind to render the gun inoperative. He then bayoneted his way through infiltrated enemy soldiers to a second gun emplacement and assisted in its operation. When the intensity of the attack necessitated the withdrawal of the company Cpl. Miyamura ordered his men to fall back while he remained to cover their movement. He killed more than 50 of the enemy before his ammunition was depleted and he was severely wounded. He maintained his magnificent stand despite his painful wounds, continuing to repel the attack until his position was overrun. When last seen he was fighting ferociously against an overwhelming number of enemy soldiers. Cpl. Miyamura’s indomitable heroism and consummate devotion to duty reflect the utmost glory on himself and uphold the illustrious traditions on the military service.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:15 pm“I don’t understand your idiot-speak. Throw out some facts and I’ll be happy to educate you on understanding them.
Comment by unbelievable — May 28, 2007″
Facts? You speak of facts on a liberal blog? I asked you to back up your statement that we invaded Iraq for oil and you can’t!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:16 pm“If someone is paying him, they’re not getting their money’s worth.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
Post #106 was for you zooey!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:17 pmThat was really funny.
Comment by Juan C
Heh. Does it count as irony, if he doesn’t know he’s being ironic?
Hmmm….
May 28th, 2007 at 5:18 pm“How can I tell which ones want to kill me? I wasn’t sure.
Comment by dbadass — May 28, 2007″
For starters, they usually are dark skinned men that smell like they haven’t bathed in weeks. Many of them have beards they haven’t trimmed in years. Another give away is many wear rags around their heads. But the one thing they all have in common is, they’re ugly!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:21 pmPost #106 was for you zooey!
Comment by michael
Actually, if you’re really keeping track, it’s #105.
Thanks!
Now I can’t say you never gave me anything — other than laughs.
I’m kicked your ass enough this weekend, Michael, you can take the rest of the day off.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:21 pm“Michael’s kicking his own ass again.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
Still haven’t answered a very simple question for me. And you have all those 6th grade text books in your room to reference. It should be pretty easy for you. They must tell you in your American History text why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge? Go look? We’ll wait.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:24 pm“A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.
Comment by Juan C — May 28, 2007″
BS! Visit this very liberal anti Bush website!
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
May 28th, 2007 at 5:28 pmDIX, DREW DENNIS
Rank and Organization: Staff Sergeant, U.S. Army, U.S. Senior Advisor Group, IV Corps, Military Assistance Command. Place and date: Chau Doc Province, Republic of Vietnam, 31 January and 1 February 1968. Entered service at: Denver, Colo. Born: 14 December 1944, West Point, N.Y. Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. S/Sgt. Dix distinguished himself by exceptional heroism while serving as a unit adviser. Two heavily armed Viet Cong battalions attacked the Province capital city of Chau Phu resulting in the complete breakdown and fragmentation of the defenses of the city. S/Sgt. Dix, with a patrol of Vietnamese soldiers, was recalled to assist in the defense of Chau Phu. Learning that a nurse was trapped in a house near the center of the city, S/Sgt. Dix organized a relief force, successfully rescued the nurse, and returned her to the safety of the Tactical Operations Center. Being informed of other trapped civilians within the city, S/Sgt. Dix voluntarily led another force to rescue 8 civilian employees located in a building which was under heavy mortar and small-arms fire. S/Sgt. Dix then returned to the center of the city. Upon approaching a building, he was subjected to intense automatic rifle and machine gun fire from an unknown number of Viet Cong. He personally assaulted the building, killing 6 Viet Cong, and rescuing 2 Filipinos. The following day S/Sgt. Dix, still on his own volition, assembled a 20-man force and though under intense enemy fire cleared the Viet Cong out of the hotel, theater, and other adjacent buildings within the city. During this portion of the attack, Army Republic of Vietnam soldiers inspired by the heroism and success of S/Sgt. Dix, rallied and commenced firing upon the Viet Cong. S/Sgt. Dix captured 20 prisoners, including a high ranking Viet Cong official. He then attacked enemy troops who had entered the residence of the Deputy Province Chief and was successful in rescuing the official’s wife and children. S/Sgt. Dix’s personal heroic actions resulted in 14 confirmed Viet Cong killed in action and possibly 25 more, the capture of 20 prisoners, 15 weapons, and the rescue of the 14 United States and free world civilians. The heroism of S/Sgt. Dix was in the highest tradition and reflects great credit upon the U.S. Army.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:29 pmMichael:
May 28th, 2007 at 5:29 pmHow did you know I was in Vermont? Crazy thing was there were gay people mixed in with the brown people. Also there were children, elderly, and a whole bunch of others. Everyone seemed happy. I even saw elderly vets holding a respectful “antiwar” information kiosk with young people who might have been liberals. I can only figure one of two things. Either I accidently slipped into Canada or your and my USA are worlds apart
ZABITOSKY, FRED WILLIAM
Rank and organization: Sergeant First Class (then S/Sgt.), U.S. Army, 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne). Place and date: Republic of Vietnam, 19 February 1968. Entered service at: Trenton, N.J. Born: 27 October 1942, Trenton, N.J. Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. Sfc. Zabitosky, U.S. Army, distinguished himself while serving as an assistant team leader of a 9-man Special Forces long-range reconnaissance patrol. Sfc. Zabitosky’s patrol was operating deep within enemy-controlled territory when they were attacked by a numerically superior North Vietnamese Army unit. Sfc. Zabitosky rallied his team members, deployed them into defensive positions, and, exposing himself to concentrated enemy automatic weapons fire, directed their return fire. Realizing the gravity of the situation, Sfc. Zabitosky ordered his patrol to move to a landing zone for helicopter extraction while he covered their withdrawal with rifle fire and grenades. Rejoining the patrol under increasing enemy pressure, he positioned each man in a tight perimeter defense and continually moved from man to man, encouraging them and controlling their defensive fire. Mainly due to his example, the outnumbered patrol maintained its precarious position until the arrival of tactical air support and a helicopter extraction team. As the rescue helicopters arrived, the determined North Vietnamese pressed their attack. Sfc. Zabitosky repeatedly exposed himself to their fire to adjust suppressive helicopter gunship fire around the landing zone. After boarding 1 of the rescue helicopters, he positioned himself in the door delivering fire on the enemy as the ship took off. The helicopter was engulfed in a hail of bullets and Sfc. Zabitosky was thrown from the craft as it spun out of control and crashed. Recovering consciousness, he ignored his extremely painful injuries and moved to the flaming wreckage. Heedless of the danger of exploding ordnance and fuel, he pulled the severely wounded pilot from the searing blaze and made repeated attempts to rescue his patrol members but was driven back by the intense heat. Despite his serious burns and crushed ribs, he carried and dragged the unconscious pilot through a curtain of enemy fire to within 10 feet of a hovering rescue helicopter before collapsing. Sfc. Zabitosky’s extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty were in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit, and the U.S. Army.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:29 pm“I’m kicked your ass enough this weekend, Michael, you can take the rest of the day off.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
Does CO2 cause warming? Explain?
May 28th, 2007 at 5:30 pm“your and my USA are worlds apart
Comment by dbadass — May 28, 2007″
Indeed they are!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:32 pmEither I accidently slipped into Canada or your and my USA are worlds apart
Comment by dbadass
It sounds like you had a great time, dbadass — in the real world.
Michael creates his own reality.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:32 pm“Everyone seemed happy.
Comment by dbadass — May 28, 2007″
Happy on Memorial Day? Happy? Oh wait, you’re in Vermont, that explains it.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:34 pm“It sounds like you had a great time
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
Only a dumb liberal would have a great time on Memorial Day!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:35 pm“Michael creates his own reality.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
Why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge? Can someone help zooey?
May 28th, 2007 at 5:37 pm140
What purpose has your interesting version of solemnity served to benefit or dignify the honor and family of American servicepersons? Just wondering.
138:
Thanks! We did!
No interest in seeing our boy further soil himself
May 28th, 2007 at 5:45 pmOops I quess I mean 135 and 136.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:49 pmSorry and Goodnight to you both
“No interest in seeing our boy further soil himself
Comment by dbadass — May 28, 2007″
Ah, the typical liberal come back when they have nothing intelligent to say! Happens all the time!
May 28th, 2007 at 5:51 pmSorry and Goodnight to you both
Comment by dbadass
Goodnight, dbadass.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:54 pmWETZEL, GARY GEORGE
Rank and organization: Specialist Fourth Class (then Pfc.), U.S. Army, 173d Assault Helicopter Company. Place and date: Near Ap Dong An, Republic of Vietnam, 8 January 1968. Entered service at: Milwaukee, Wis. Born: 29 September 1947, South Milwaukee, Wis. Citation. Sp4c. Wetzel, 173d Assault Helicopter Company, distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life. above and beyond the call of duty. Sp4c. Wetzel was serving as door gunner aboard a helicopter which was part of an insertion force trapped in a landing zone by intense and deadly hostile fire. Sp4c. Wetzel was going to the aid of his aircraft commander when he was blown into a rice paddy and critically wounded by 2 enemy rockets that exploded just inches from his location. Although bleeding profusely due to the loss of his left arm and severe wounds in his right arm, chest, and left leg, Sp4c. Wetzel staggered back to his original position in his gun-well and took the enemy forces under fire. His machinegun was the only weapon placing effective fire on the enemy at that time. Through a resolve that overcame the shock and intolerable pain of his injuries, Sp4c. Wetzel remained at his position until he had eliminated the automatic weapons emplacement that had been inflicting heavy casualties on the American troops and preventing them from moving against this strong enemy force. Refusing to attend his own extensive wounds, he attempted to return to the aid of his aircraft commander but passed out from loss of blood. Regaining consciousness, he persisted in his efforts to drag himself to the aid of his fellow crewman. After an agonizing effort, he came to the side of the crew chief who was attempting to drag the wounded aircraft commander to the safety of a nearby dike. Unswerving in his devotion to his fellow man, Sp4c. Wetzel assisted his crew chief even though he lost consciousness once again during this action. Sp4c. Wetzel displayed extraordinary heroism in his efforts to aid his fellow crewmen. His gallant actions were in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Army and reflect great credit upon himself and the Armed Forces of his country.
May 28th, 2007 at 6:07 pm#103 – michael,
The 104 billionaires who paid zero in taxes in 2006. This starts to explain it beyond that class:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/7/23/164736/504
May 28th, 2007 at 6:10 pmFUNK, LEONARD A., JR.
Rank and organization: First Sergeant, U.S. Army, Company C, 508th Parachute Infantry, 82d Airborne Division. Place and date: Holzheim, Belgium, 29 January 1945. Entered service at: Wilkinsburg, Pa. Birth: Braddock Township, Pa. G.O. No.: 75, 5 September 1945. Citation: He distinguished himself by gallant, intrepid actions against the enemy. After advancing 15 miles in a driving snowstorm, the American force prepared to attack through waist-deep drifts. The company executive officer became a casualty, and 1st Sgt. Funk immediately assumed his duties, forming headquarters soldiers into a combat unit for an assault in the face of direct artillery shelling and harassing fire from the right flank. Under his skillful and courageous leadership, this miscellaneous group and the 3d Platoon attacked 15 houses, cleared them, and took 30 prisoners without suffering a casualty. The fierce drive of Company C quickly overran Holzheim, netting some 80 prisoners, who were placed under a 4-man guard, all that could be spared, while the rest of the understrength unit went about mopping up isolated points of resistance. An enemy patrol, by means of a ruse, succeeded in capturing the guards and freeing the prisoners, and had begun preparations to attack Company C from the rear when 1st Sgt. Funk walked around the building and into their midst. He was ordered to surrender by a German officer who pushed a machine pistol into his stomach. Although overwhelmingly outnumbered and facing almost certain death, 1st Sgt. Funk, pretending to comply with the order, began slowly to unsling his submachine gun from his shoulder and then, with lightning motion, brought the muzzle into line and riddled the German officer. He turned upon the other Germans, firing and shouting to the other Americans to seize the enemy’s weapons. In the ensuing fight 21 Germans were killed, many wounded, and the remainder captured. 1st Sgt. Funk’s bold action and heroic disregard for his own safety were directly responsible for the recapture of a vastly superior enemy force, which, if allowed to remain free, could have taken the widespread units of Company C by surprise and endangered the entire attack plan.
May 28th, 2007 at 6:11 pm“http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/7/23/164736/504
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 28, 2007″
A link to a smear Bush blog? You can do better than that?
May 28th, 2007 at 6:19 pmCivilians dead, even if only one is killed, is a human disgrace. No wonder why some people celebrated or felt a sense of justice after the planes on 9/11.
Comment by Juan C — May 28, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
Ah, once again, liberal’s true colors shining through. See, Johnny boy, in this country the liberals try never to say anyone was justified in celebrating the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans who were just minding their own business, trying to make a living when some evil, slimeball muslims hijacked airplanes and crashed then into buildings. Lots of folks in this country still get really upset about that and they have precious little patience for liberal blather about feeling sorry for the terrorists. So liberals walk gingerly around this subject.
Now, perhaps you didn’t notice that I said Iraqi civilian deaths ARE BAD ENOUGH, but not as bad as toby said.
Then you post this little gem:
“A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq…
Comment by Juan C — May 28, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
You only hurt your position when you try to make it appear worse than it is, especially when IT IS BAD ENOUGH ANYWAY.
“Several academics have tried to find out how the Lancet study was conducted; none regards their queries as having been addressed satisfactorily. Researchers contacted by The Times talk of unreturned e-mails or phone calls, or of being sent information that raises fresh doubts….”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1469636.ece
I really try to be patient with you, but you make yourself look like a idiot much too often, johnny boy. ;)
May 28th, 2007 at 6:20 pm“Goodnight, dbadass.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007″
Still waiting zooey. I have to step out for a while. This will give you some time to research?
May 28th, 2007 at 6:42 pm“If someone is paying him, they’re not getting their money’s worth.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007 @ 5:06 pm”
No kidding… Repugs seem to be more about quantity than quality…
May 28th, 2007 at 7:08 pm“How could they focus on Saddam and leave Iraq alone?
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 5:10 pm”
Osama… You knew what I meant.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:10 pmNo kidding… Repugs seem to be more about quantity than quality…
Comment by unbelievable
Michael’s specialty is mental masterbation — light on the mental.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:11 pm“Wow! You’re pretty close with the dude in the White House!
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 5:12 pm”
No thanks… I just can read and I read where Bush said that the Christian god told him to. It was later confirmed by Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson or one of those evil bastards that Bush thought he was on a mission from his god.
“Facts? You speak of facts on a liberal blog? I asked you to back up your statement that we invaded Iraq for oil and you can’t!
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 5:16 pm”
Yes I can. You didn’t ask.
WASHINGTON, July 25 (HalliburtonWatch.org) — Halliburton announced on Friday that its KBR division, responsible for carrying out Pentagon contracts, experienced a 284 percent increase in operating profits during the second quarter of this year.
The increase in profits was primarily due to the Pentagon’s payment of “award fees” for what military officials call “good” or “very good” work done by KBR in the Middle East for America’s taxpayers and the troops.
Despite the scandals that plague KBR’s military contracts, the Pentagon awarded $70 million in “award” fees to the company, along with four ratings of “excellent” and two ratings of “very good” for the troop logistics work under the Army’s LOGCAP contract.
The Pentagon has provided preferential treatment to Halliburton on a number of occasions, including the concealment from the public of critical reports by military auditors.
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/earnings072205.html
Do you need me to tell you where Dick Cheney has a lot of stock from having once run the company?
May 28th, 2007 at 7:16 pmOsama… You knew what I meant.
Comment by unbelievable
You give him too much credit.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:18 pmhttp://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2132574.ece
Blood and oil: How the West will profit from Iraq’s most precious commodity
The ‘IoS’ today reveals a draft for a new law that would give Western oil companies a massive share in the third largest reserves in the world. To the victors, the oil? That is how some experts view this unprecedented arrangement with a major Middle East oil producer that guarantees investors huge profits for the next 30 years
Published: 07 January 2007
So was this what the Iraq war was fought for, after all? As the number of US soldiers killed since the invasion rises past the 3,000 mark, and President George Bush gambles on sending in up to 30,000 more troops, The Independent on Sunday has learnt that the Iraqi government is about to push through a law giving Western oil companies the right to exploit the country’s massive oil reserves.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:18 pm“Does CO2 cause warming? Explain?
Comment by michael — May 28, 2007 @ 5:30 pm”
Go study the planet Venus… I explained this earlier on another thread.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:21 pmNo beefeater, I’m saying that the G W Bush Admin is not willing to live up to its obligations and our nation’s commitments. Life is not fair when a billionaire pays less in taxes the I do.
Kindly name at least 3 billionaires who paid less taxes than you did in 2006.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:22 pm“Michael’s specialty is mental masterbation — light on the mental.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007 @ 7:11 pm”
LOL!
“You give him too much credit.
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007 @ 7:18 pm”
You’re right…
May 28th, 2007 at 7:23 pmRe #146 by upright left:
And just what does it do to your position, upright left, when you cherry pick to make things look better than they are? Those of us willing to accept the results of the Lancet study (i.e., the 650,000+ Iraqi civilian deaths) as a distinct possibility and even a probability can quote newspaper articles, too. Check out The Guardian Unlimited at http://www.guardian.co.uk. In an article date 3/28/07 (3 weeks after your article), Richard Horton reports:
“When these recommendations went to the prime minister’s advisers, they were horrified. One person briefing Tony Blair wrote: ‘Are we really sure that the report is likely to be right? That is certainly what the brief implies?” A Foreign and Commonwealth Office official was forced to conclude that the government “should not be rubbishing the Lancet’.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2044157,00.html#article_continue
The prime minister’s adviser finally gave in. He wrote: ‘The survey methodology used here cannot be rubbished, it is a tried and tested way of measuring mortality in conflict zones’.”
May 28th, 2007 at 7:30 pmHow can I tell which ones want to kill me? I wasn’t sure. They were really good at blending in and seeming to enjoy the festivities as well. I wish now I had just killed them and got it over with. Shit, I wouldn’t want them following me home and all. Better to fight them there.
Comment by dbadass — May 28, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
I saw the same thing at the paradeI went too. But I didn’t think about it as clearly as you did. Now I feel like I’ve missed my opportunity to make our trolls feel safer so they’d shut the eff up.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:36 pmA link to a smear Bush blog? You can do better than that?
Comment by michael
That’s your name for any site that tells the truth about Bush. Easier for you to make your lame argument when you deny all truths.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:42 pmKindly name at least 3 billionaires who paid less taxes than you did in 2006.
Comment by m12
God you people are idiots. Please ignore the trolls who refuse to face any facts.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:44 pmGod you people are idiots. Please ignore the trolls who refuse to face any facts.
Are you claiming that post 88 is a factual statement?
May 28th, 2007 at 7:46 pmGod you people are idiots. Please ignore the trolls who refuse to face any facts.
Comment by shane
The weird thing is, m12 defends these billionaires, and you know he ain’t one of ‘em.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:47 pmThe weird thing is, m12 defends these billionaires, and you know he ain’t one of ‘em.
No, unfortunately, I am not. Living the American dream in a free society requires no defense.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:53 pmAnd just what does it do to your position, upright left, when you cherry pick to make things look better than they are?
Comment by Linus — May 28, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
Buddy, you failed to notice that I didn’t quote a figure since the number is most likely somewhere between the often quoted 50,000 and the ridiculous 650,000. And I am well aware that you can find a quote (or stat) to support just about any position. ;) While the Guardian (liberal publication) believes the methodology cannot be “rubbished,” the authors are anti-war and they refused to answer questions about the study. I believe I’ll wait for more reliable corroboration of the numbers before I start throwin em around, my animated friend.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:58 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Miller
May 28th, 2007 at 8:07 pm“Since last year, the military’s embedding rules require that journalists obtain a signed consent from a wounded soldier before the image can be published. Images that put a face on the dead, that make them identifiable, are simply prohibited.â€
Comment by WaltTheMan — May 28, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Walt, Does the wounded not still have a right to privacy? does the DOD not still have a right to inform the family of the wounded before their photo ends up on the morning paper?
Sorry, you do not have a RIGHT to see pictures of the wounded or dead.
May 28th, 2007 at 8:38 pmChris,
Thank you for all of the reminders of our fallen brothers and sisters.
May 28th, 2007 at 8:39 pmThanks Bob, I’m glad someone is reading them.
May 28th, 2007 at 8:50 pmKindly name at least 3 billionaires who paid less taxes than you did in 2006.
Still waiting!
May 28th, 2007 at 9:00 pmBlessings to you Chris for posting the true meaning of this day, all our fallen heroe’s…
May 28th, 2007 at 9:02 pm#128 – michael,
May 28th, 2007 at 9:05 pmWhy has W not gotten hishonorable discharge after more than 40 years? At least Kerry served.
Vandals Burn Dozens of American Flags Decorating Veteran’s Graves, Replace With Swatikas
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275974,00.html
May 28th, 2007 at 9:11 pm#171 – Chris,
May 28th, 2007 at 9:23 pmAnyone placing a swastika anywhere has to be neo-conservative. It is a fachist symbol, usually assocated with rightists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m1JVjE2Ox0
May 28th, 2007 at 9:25 pmWalt,
I’m not placing blame on any political group. I’m merely pointing out that on a day when we should be remembering our veterans, stuff like this is happening.
May 28th, 2007 at 9:26 pmComment by Chris — May 28, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
I am not going to rush to judgement on WHO did this (as to party or political beliefs), but it is a disgusting act of cowardice.
For our fallen…..
“If we are mark’d to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call’d the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian.’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispian’s day.’
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day. ”
– Wm. Shakespeare, King Henry V
May 28th, 2007 at 9:30 pmThat is truly disgusting, sadly it happens all the time Chris….What also break’s my heart is there are people dieing all over the world in war’s as I type..Creating more fallen soldier’s and citizens..Peace and Blessings
May 28th, 2007 at 9:33 pm#174- Chris,
Okay, you are right, but I live in the midst of red necks who believe that the people of the world are inferior unless they have blonde hair and blue eyes.
May 28th, 2007 at 9:38 pmAnyone placing a swastika anywhere has to be neo-conservative. It is a fachist symbol, usually assocated with rightists.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Sounds like a bunch of kids headed for real trouble.
May 28th, 2007 at 9:38 pm#178 – shane,
May 28th, 2007 at 9:41 pmThey are called skinheads.
Anyone placing a swastika anywhere has to be neo-conservative. It is a fachist symbol, usually assocated with rightists….
They are called skinheads.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Ya know walt, I’ve personally been associated with literally thousands of conservatives over the years and I’ve never seen a skinhead except on television. Apparently they aren’t common among average American conservatives. That must be because they are sort of a radical fringe group. Which would seem to make your comment a bit of a *gasp* smear. Hmmm, imagine that.
May 28th, 2007 at 11:03 pmComment by upright left — May 28, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
Skinheads exist. I’ve seen and heard them in my little piece of heaven called Idaho. Just because YOU have never seen them, except on the tee vee, doesn’t mean they haven’t inflicted themselves on society.
But guess what? They got chased out of Idaho, and they have learned to “pass” in ordinary society. They might be your brand new Christian neighbors!
And here you are…..all worried about the Muslims.
Heh.
May 28th, 2007 at 11:31 pmSkinheads exist. …
They might be your brand new Christian neighbors! …
Comment by Zooey — May 28, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
Now, zooey, there ya go again, misinterpreting what I said. I didn’t deny that they exist. I was just making sure walt was aware that skinheads aren’t common among your average conservatives. Folks around here us that neo con term to describe anyone to the right of them so often it seems to take in everyone from conservative dems to nazis. And I know walt doesn’t want to give the wrong impression about anyone, being a fair minded progressive and all.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:12 amAlso, skinheads are no more Christians than you are. You could call yourself a Christian right now, but it wouldn’t make it so. Same with them. So they would have to be my new atheist neighbors claiming to be Christians.
Dream on…..
May 29th, 2007 at 12:58 amI was just making sure walt was aware that skinheads aren’t common among your average conservatives.
Comment by upright left
Walt is a genius. His father was a genius. For real. Some members of his family are geniuses. I know cuz I have personal communication with him. Look at every post made by him and see that he doesnt engange in any little squirmish like we do, for example. So, in my opinion, Walt is more aware than any of us. You can type your little faces with ASCII and laugh all you want, but the fact is that you are wrong as you were wrong from the beginning and will continue to be wrong. No matter how much you want me to be a moron, you are wrong. No WMDs, No Saddam ties with Al-Qaeda, fabricated proofs for going into war…you are in the loser side.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:04 amComment by Juan C — May 29, 2007 @ 1:04 am
My, my, my, aren’t we in a snit! For all your fawning over walt, walt’s post suggested a position that was misleading. Walt isn’t perfect is he? Nor was his father, nor his other family members. And I don’t WANT anyone to be a moron. Not a good thing for the human race. Unfortunately, some people prove I don’t get what I want.
“No WMDs”: we would have known for sure had Sadaam cooperated with the U.N. now wouldn’t we? Remember the U.N.? The organization that would practically be running the U.S. if liberals had their way. Oh wait, you’d consider that a good thing wouldn’t ya. Never mind.
“No Saddam ties with Al-Qaeda”: none that can be proven but obvious ties to other terrorist groups
“fabricated proofs for going into war”: definitely
“you are in the loser side”: war isn’t over yet, so we aren’t sure.
Just calm yourself, buddy. Everything will be ok. ;) (Sorry, couldn’t resist)
May 29th, 2007 at 1:32 amKindly name at least 3 billionaires who paid less taxes than you did in 2006.
I guess I should assume you were lying when you said this:
“I’m saying that the G W Bush Admin is not willing to live up to its obligations and our nation’s commitments. Life is not fair when a billionaire pays less in taxes the I do.”
May 29th, 2007 at 11:10 amHey tarazan Shitforbrains
May 29th, 2007 at 11:31 amThe last time I checked we still had an all volunteer military even though the Democrats want to bring the draft back to life . Perhaps all these children of Liberals joined the military because of all the liberal Hate America Crap they have had to endure from thiei Parents , so why don’t you go steal some flags off of soldiers graves and burn them like the did in Washington State and Boston
m12 who told you that you had enough intellect to be allowed to post a comment ?
May 29th, 2007 at 11:34 amtarzan educate yourself here is a source
Millionaires fill US Congress halls
By Jean-Louis Santini
07/01/04 “AFP” — WASHINGTON: The US Congress, the domed bastion of democracy in the capital of capitalism, abounds with deep-pocketed politicians whose fortunes have made the legislative branch of government a millionaire’s club.
In the 435-member House of Representatives, 123 elected officials earned at least one million dollars last year, according to recently released financial records made public each year.
Next door in the ornate Senate, whose blue-blooded pedigree includes a Kennedy and a Rockefeller, one in three people are millionaires. By comparison, less than one per cent of Americans make seven-figure incomes.
The American greenback is bipartisan, filling the pockets of liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans without discrimination. Liberal stalwart and Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy, brother of the late John Kennedy, disclosed that he has 45 million dollars in the bank. West Virginia Senator John Rockefeller, also a Democrat, reported to have earned 80 million dollars.
The Senate is also home to Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry, whose wife Teresa Heinz inherited 500 million dollars when her previous husband, senator John Heinz, of the ketchup empire, died in a plane crash in 1991.
The Senate has always been home to the country’s richest elements, and the rising cost of election campaigns has led both parties to encourage self-sufficient candidates to run for public office, boosting the number of wealthy elected officials, analysts say.
“There tend to be more rich people in the Senate,” said Richard Baker, the Senate’s historian. “It has always been the case.” Representatives and senators tend to hold lucrative jobs – attorneys, doctors and company executives.
“Members of Congress are recruited not from (an) ordinary cross section of America occupations,” said Thomas Mann, a Congress expert at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.
“There has been an increasing tendency for parties to seek out individuals who can self-finance at least part of their campaigns, and that has over time led to more wealthy people serving in Congress,” Mann said.
For instance, New Jersey’s Jon Corzine, a former chief executive of Wall Street giant Goldman Sachs, spent more than 60 million dollars, a record, in his successful senate bid in 2000.
The richest person in the House of Representatives is California Democrat Jane Harman, who reported assets worth more than 160 million dollars. Next in line is Amo Houghton, a New York Republican who reported 150 million dollars.
In the Senate, Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican and heart surgeon, unveiled a fortune worth 45 million dollars. His Senate foe, Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, is among the “poorest” officials.
Daschle disclosed earnings of less than one million dollars in addition to his 171,900-dollar a year Senate salary. Lower ranked senators are paid 154,700 dollars a year.
In the House, Bill Thomas, the Republican chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Committee, which has oversight of taxation (or the pockets of average Americans), has one of the most modest financial disclosures. The California Republican reported no assets or investments, just his 157,000-dollar House salary and the value of his home.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:49 amEDUCATION.
Comment by Juan C
Why oh why do you think education in the solution?
People still spreading AIDS in educated USA
You Demoncrats/liberals are still funding the war after the recent elections.
May 29th, 2007 at 2:40 pmYep education there ya go Heh!
“I’m licked your ass enough this weekend, Michael, you can take the rest of the day off.
Comment by Zooey
May 29th, 2007 at 2:43 pm