Actually both of them would have “EXPELLED for academic fraud” written on their transcripts.

Timmy, most of the posters here are quite familiar with Google. Take your silly, dishonest games somewhere else. They don’t really work here. As liberals, we tend to be fact-based in our discussions.

This gave fact-based posters the opportunity to site the polls showing that Congress has better approval than Bush. Another question: how many times in the last 50 years has Congress had a higher approval rating than a President? Bush cultists are not going to like the answer.

It feels like TP again.

LOL… Still going with the discredited talking points, dear? You do realize that polls of the general American public show that the U.S. public as a whole scored worse on such questions than did U.S. Muslims, right?

66: They aren’t? last time I checked, they are between 33% and 50% of the total House and within a sliver of 50% of the Senate. And contrary to what your masters were wanting to do with the Democrats in the 109th, the 110th is standing up for its principles and letting them have their voice. Regardless, even if the Democrats didn’t, your masters’ faceman in the Whitehouse, Bush, ensures they still have their power by threatening to veto everything that comes out of the 110th Congress. No position of power? Somebody, whose name starts with a letter and ends with two digits, doesn’t understand how their system of government is supposed to work. I guess that’s why he supports the theory of the Unitary Executive, cause these whole Checks and Balances things are so hard to understand, yaknow?

The Bush team seems to have a way of not letting reality interfere with its “vision”. Once the Bush team gets a “vision”, it will “stay the course”.

It is only too bad that the Bush team is managing America’s resources rather than its own personal resources.

28%?? For a party that claims to represent a majority of Americans, what does it say that almost a majority of their own party hates their leader?

polls show that 100% of American troops shoot kids for fun in Iraq so long as they look military age

The results of a new poll of American Muslims was just released, and a full 74% of them don’t want to stab you in the groin and eat your eyeballs. It can thus be said that Muslims in America have integrated into society much better than many have feared (you don’t want to see the poll results on that for Muslims in Europe, though).

Since this thread is about the President’s approval rating, I think the comparable 27% approval rating for Congress as a whole is indeed a relevant statistic. Thank for the info — I could not access the pay-per-view part of WSJ.

Jake, your idol? 48% of people polled found him to be ‘poor’, and 22% found him to be ‘meh’ (only fair). 22% found him to be good, and 7% found him to be excellent (lemme guess. You’re part of that 7%?). Lastly, only 2% of people surveyed couldn’t make a decision about Bush.

Now, what about that Congress you like to bash?

Thankfully, we have _three_ sets of numbers there. Congress as a whole:
3% think they’re doing very good.
24% think they’re doing good.
43% think they’re doing fair.
27% think they’re doing poor.
4% Undecided

I can agree with them. This congress definitely gets a ‘meh’ from me. But looking at those numbers compared to your boy George’s numbers — as many people think Bush is doing _BAD_ as Congress is doing ‘Meh’. I can agree there. Congress is on my Sugar Honey Ice Tea list thanks to this last bill, but BUSH has had the perpetual place at #1 on that list. And now, to REALLY deflate your little bubble.

Republicans in Congress:
3% of people find them to be doing an excellent job.
20% of people find them to be doing a good job.
41% of people find them to be doing a fair job.
33% of people find them to be doing a poor job.
4% undecided

Sliding more to that area of Presidential Dislike.

And Democrats?
5% excellent (+2% over Republicans, +2% over Congress)
29% good (+9% over Republicans, +5% over Congress)
34% fair (-7% under Republicans, -9% under Congress)
24% poor (-9% under Republicans, -3% under Congress)
7% undecided

Analysed this way, Congress is a far cry better than Bush, and I can appreciate those numbers.

What about Nancy Pelosi, you say?
5% excellent (fancy that…matches Democrats in Congress)
25% good
33% Fair
23% Poor
14% Undecided

What have we got here? Well, looks like most people are only lukewarm on Pelosi. Strangely enough, a decent selection of them don’t know what to make of her yet (this makes sense).

And Harry Reid, the guy you guys love to hate?
2% Excellent
19% Good
35% Fair
17% Poor
26% Undecided

Yeah, he only has 21% between Excellent and Good (’Positive rating’) 35% + 17% is 52% ‘unfavorable’ (I still take umbrage at this…’fair’ is not unfavorable. ‘Fair’ to me is pulling a C in a course. Yes, it’s not good, but I’d rather a C than a D or heavens no, an F). But when you break that down, most people think he’s OK…just OK, mind you, but still OK. And a big chunk, bigger than any other category but ‘Fair’, doesn’t know what to make of him. And a stinging slap on the face of those who are Bush supporters — If you add Pelosi’s 17% poor rating to Reid’s 23%, you’re STILL 8 points below Bush’s poor rating of 48%. Oooh….that stings. So whose rating is actually worse?

Now, for you trolls. Every time you spout this bullshit about the
Democrats having a lower approval rating than President Bush, I’m going to repost this, wherever I see it. Everyone else? Spread this around. Let the world in general see the difference between the approval ratings, and emphasize that the Republicans and President Bush have much higher poor readings than the Democrats. This is the only way we’ll be able to triumph over this bullshit.

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Now, how I wish they’d rate a President or a Congress would be by Grade-Point Average. Ask someone to give each person a letter grade from A to F. A = Excellent, B = Good, C = Fair, D= Poor and F = Failing. Intuitive, and we’re all used to it. My grades and some comments:

Sec. of State Rice: I (Incomplete)
She gets a massive ding because she’s associated with Bush,
and she has this nasty habit of saying stupid things. However,
Secretary of State isn’t a job that stands out and I’d have to do
heavy research to give her an ABCDF grade. If Pressed, I’d give
her a U (Unsatisfactory), but I can’t give her a weighted grade
at this point.

President Bush: F
A Presidency marked by secretive assaults on personal liberties,
a rollback on the progress of Science, and the abdication of our
place as country to be respected, even if we fuck up. We will be
spending years undoing what this cretin has done.

Vice President Cheney: F-
There is not enough vitrol in the world to give Cheney what he so
richly deserves. This man is everything that is wrong with the
Republican Party and American Citizens in general — hateful, spite-
ful, above the law, and foul-mouthed. If I could give him a grade
below F, I would.

Democrats in Congress: C-
This grade is lowering. Every day the Democrats cave into the
Republicans is a day that they get closer to joining the
Republicans. Time to start using the tricks the Republicans used,
and mastering the skill of public relations.

And speaking of the Republicans…

Republicans in Congress: D-
They are enabling the policies of Bush and are being obstruction-
ists. If it wasn’t for the Democrats, the national wage would still
be $5.15, we’d be looking at a ‘Defense of Marriage Amendment’
filtering down the ranks of the state assemblies, and Bush would
have had his blank check a long time ago

Congress in general:
Just average the Republicans and Democrats if you want this
grade.

Speaker Pelosi: C
Her fortunes rise and fall with her party. She gets a slight (0.3
GPA) boost because she didn’t cave with her party, but she could
have had a higher grade if she only said no to Bush’s Bill and
taken the risk that the Republicans would have said bad things
about her

Senator Reid: D+
Too much like an Elephant in Donkey Clothing for my tastes, and
he has the stench of corruption on him. And, unlike Pelosi, he
voted for Bush’s little spending bill.