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	<title>Comments on: Bush staffer failed to disclose Conrad Black payments.</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/29/bush-staffer-failed-to-disclose-conrad-black-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-3846888</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Frum also played a key role in the ascent of Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper to the leadership of the Canadian Alliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Frum also played a key role in the ascent of Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper to the leadership of the Canadian Alliance.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3846888', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/29/bush-staffer-failed-to-disclose-conrad-black-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-3829173</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Comment No. 12: enspector, is that you???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Comment No. 12: enspector, is that you???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3829173', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: insultingconsulting</title>
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		<dc:creator>insultingconsulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Cal (comment 14): Exactly. David F. always was a bit brainless. Years ago, his commentaries on immigration issues struck me as those of someone who parked his brain under the keyboard before he started typing. Just as feeble-minded as his writings on Iraq and the rest. If the Bush administration relied on David for much of their advice, that helps to explain why it has turned out to be the worst and most incompetent administration in American history.

And, yes, how a mother who was seemingly as intelligent (and upright and honest) as Barbara was, could turn out this sort of offspring. Well, that is one of life&#039;s mysteries, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Cal (comment 14): Exactly. David F. always was a bit brainless. Years ago, his commentaries on immigration issues struck me as those of someone who parked his brain under the keyboard before he started typing. Just as feeble-minded as his writings on Iraq and the rest. If the Bush administration relied on David for much of their advice, that helps to explain why it has turned out to be the worst and most incompetent administration in American history.</p>
<p>And, yes, how a mother who was seemingly as intelligent (and upright and honest) as Barbara was, could turn out this sort of offspring. Well, that is one of life&#8217;s mysteries, I suppose.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827903', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/29/bush-staffer-failed-to-disclose-conrad-black-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-3827799</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Frum&#039;s mother, Barbara, will rolling around in her grave right now. She was a top flight journalist in Canbada, considered to be one of the best interviewers in the world until her untimely death in 1992. She was revered for getting to the bottom of a story and exposing the truth.

Her son has sullied her good name by taking payments and spreading W&#039;s propaganda. He can not get a pundit&#039;s job in Canada, But then again the Canadian media does not usually allow people on the air that can not back up what they claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Frum&#8217;s mother, Barbara, will rolling around in her grave right now. She was a top flight journalist in Canbada, considered to be one of the best interviewers in the world until her untimely death in 1992. She was revered for getting to the bottom of a story and exposing the truth.</p>
<p>Her son has sullied her good name by taking payments and spreading W&#8217;s propaganda. He can not get a pundit&#8217;s job in Canada, But then again the Canadian media does not usually allow people on the air that can not back up what they claim.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827799', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Looseheadprop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a lawyer. 

I too have followed this case from the beginning.

You and I must read different newspapers.

For example read the recent Chicago Tribune article which describes the (literally) millions of dollars in personal expenses that Black had Hollinger
pay for.  And for which no tax was paid by either the Company or the Blacks. Additionally, those millions were dollars that belonged to the shareholders.

This is Leona Helmsely all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a lawyer. </p>
<p>I too have followed this case from the beginning.</p>
<p>You and I must read different newspapers.</p>
<p>For example read the recent Chicago Tribune article which describes the (literally) millions of dollars in personal expenses that Black had Hollinger<br />
pay for.  And for which no tax was paid by either the Company or the Blacks. Additionally, those millions were dollars that belonged to the shareholders.</p>
<p>This is Leona Helmsely all over again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827788', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 19:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is shocking to me to see how quickly you all summarily &#039;convict&#039; David Frum for 4 payments he received from Hollinger.  Need I remind you that Hollinger employed hundreds of reporters/writers across the globe at various different news outlets; does that mean that none of these writers can comment on Conrad Black&#039;s guilt or innocence?

WITHOUT question none of you who have posted comments against Frum would have put any trust in what he said anyway (payments or no payments) so why do you now act as if he *was* your most trusted pundit until this information came out!?  

The tragedy here is that you are all so blinded by your hatred for Conrad Black and the &quot;neo conservative&quot; agenda that he is said to represent that you can not objectively weigh the evidence that has now been presented by the prosecution.  I have followed this case from day one and have read the evidence -- as presented by both left leaning and right leaning media outlets -- both filtered through my understanding of the law as an attorney.  The prosecution has failed to meet its burden to establish that Conrad Black or any of his co defendants have committed a crime.  What they have demonstrated is just how much of a bully the US justice system can be.  

There seems to be this knee jerk reaction on both the political right and left to just slam the other side whenever you can without necessarily considering the facts.  So, someone like Keith will take a quote from David Frum out of context.  Yes, Frum said that disclosures can become &quot;silly and pedantic&quot;, however he said this after defending the payments as being in line with industry norms and right before saying: &quot;Do I really have to mention that I used to write speeches for George W. Bush every time I write about him?&quot;.  Somehow the context here makes a difference -- regardless if he should have disclosed the payments or not.

I will promise not to prejudge ALL issues through my generally right of centre political views, IF you also agree to independently evaluate circumstances and not simply lash out, without all the facts just b/c an issue may appear to &quot;hurt&quot; the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is shocking to me to see how quickly you all summarily &#8216;convict&#8217; David Frum for 4 payments he received from Hollinger.  Need I remind you that Hollinger employed hundreds of reporters/writers across the globe at various different news outlets; does that mean that none of these writers can comment on Conrad Black&#8217;s guilt or innocence?</p>
<p>WITHOUT question none of you who have posted comments against Frum would have put any trust in what he said anyway (payments or no payments) so why do you now act as if he *was* your most trusted pundit until this information came out!?  </p>
<p>The tragedy here is that you are all so blinded by your hatred for Conrad Black and the &#8220;neo conservative&#8221; agenda that he is said to represent that you can not objectively weigh the evidence that has now been presented by the prosecution.  I have followed this case from day one and have read the evidence &#8212; as presented by both left leaning and right leaning media outlets &#8212; both filtered through my understanding of the law as an attorney.  The prosecution has failed to meet its burden to establish that Conrad Black or any of his co defendants have committed a crime.  What they have demonstrated is just how much of a bully the US justice system can be.  </p>
<p>There seems to be this knee jerk reaction on both the political right and left to just slam the other side whenever you can without necessarily considering the facts.  So, someone like Keith will take a quote from David Frum out of context.  Yes, Frum said that disclosures can become &#8220;silly and pedantic&#8221;, however he said this after defending the payments as being in line with industry norms and right before saying: &#8220;Do I really have to mention that I used to write speeches for George W. Bush every time I write about him?&#8221;.  Somehow the context here makes a difference &#8212; regardless if he should have disclosed the payments or not.</p>
<p>I will promise not to prejudge ALL issues through my generally right of centre political views, IF you also agree to independently evaluate circumstances and not simply lash out, without all the facts just b/c an issue may appear to &#8220;hurt&#8221; the right.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827721', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: celtic cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>celtic cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if he declared this &quot;largess&quot; on his income tax return.
IRS, are you listening and watching?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if he declared this &#8220;largess&#8221; on his income tax return.<br />
IRS, are you listening and watching?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827632', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: powkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>powkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And notice, no trolls here to defend him - he&#039;s toast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And notice, no trolls here to defend him &#8211; he&#8217;s toast.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827538', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: powkat</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/29/bush-staffer-failed-to-disclose-conrad-black-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-3827535</link>
		<dc:creator>powkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eww - David Frum is one of the creepiest of the neo-cons.  Not at all surprising that he&#039;s corrupt.  And folks, it&#039;s not call the Bush Crime Family for nothing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eww &#8211; David Frum is one of the creepiest of the neo-cons.  Not at all surprising that he&#8217;s corrupt.  And folks, it&#8217;s not call the Bush Crime Family for nothing!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827535', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: VerbalKint</title>
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		<dc:creator>VerbalKint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another corrupt liar who hates ethics and the rule of law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another corrupt liar who hates ethics and the rule of law.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827516', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Perry Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry.  We have &lt;em&gt;serially-linked supercomputers&lt;/em&gt; keeping track of all these scandals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry.  We have <em>serially-linked supercomputers</em> keeping track of all these scandals.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827480', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Proud American Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud American Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, David Frum, boy am I surprised. NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, David Frum, boy am I surprised. NOT!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827473', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: martin(fromcanada)</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/29/bush-staffer-failed-to-disclose-conrad-black-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-3827463</link>
		<dc:creator>martin(fromcanada)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha.. so much for the administration not commenting on ongoing legal preceedings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha.. so much for the administration not commenting on ongoing legal preceedings<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827463', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SKdeA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SKdeA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$16K+?
That is one expensive male hooker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$16K+?<br />
That is one expensive male hooker!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827457', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/29/bush-staffer-failed-to-disclose-conrad-black-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-3827423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just more corruption of the Bush Regime exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just more corruption of the Bush Regime exposed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827423', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/29/bush-staffer-failed-to-disclose-conrad-black-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-3827397</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Frum said he feels no need to reveal the payments when defending Black because disclosures &#039;can easily become silly and pedantic.&#039;&quot;

Pardon my French, but GOD-DAYYYAAMN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Frum said he feels no need to reveal the payments when defending Black because disclosures &#8216;can easily become silly and pedantic.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Pardon my French, but GOD-DAYYYAAMN!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827397', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Badmoodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badmoodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frum, your coined phrase &quot;&lt;em&gt;the axis of evil&lt;/em&gt;&quot; will soon take on new meaning for you; TV, the Internets and newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frum, your coined phrase &#8220;<em>the axis of evil</em>&#8221; will soon take on new meaning for you; TV, the Internets and newspapers.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3827395', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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