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Conservative religious leaders dominate media coverage.»

Media Matters has published a new report, “Left Behind: The Skewed Representation of Religion in Major News Media,” documenting how conservative religious leaders receive far more media coverage than their progressive counterparts.

Despite the fact most religious Americans are moderate or progressive, in the news media it is overwhelmingly conservative leaders who are presented as the voice of religion. This represents a particularly meaningful distortion since progressive religious leaders tend to focus on different issues and offer an entirely different perspective than their conservative counterparts.

Below, a chart comparing media coverage of the top 10 most widely covered conservative (red) and progressive (blue) religious leaders:

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289 Responses to “Conservative religious leaders dominate media coverage.”

  1. wags Says:

    Color me shocked.


  2. Daryll Says:

    That’s because we, the American people, want to see and hear true followers of holiness. We do not want to hear hypocrites who believe in supporting homosexuality and breaking laws.


  3. wags Says:

    Only, Daryll, none of those “blue” religious leader do.
    A$$wipe.


  4. imorgan82 Says:

    I think this is the first histogram posted on this site that actually shows what it says it shows. Good work, TP


  5. imorgan82 Says:

    Daryll-

    Let’s not cast stones in that glass house, there. If we check the scoreboard, its pretty damn obvious that the Republicans are the people who have the least respect for the law. Read a newspaper.


  6. Coral Says:

    Nice graph. Tony Perkins is the winner.

    Regards,
    Coral

    http://www.coralpoetry.blogspot.com


  7. Buck Says:

    Daryll, how about getting your lazy ass up out of bed Sunday morning and go to Church. Church attendance is down. I wonder why that is?

    Your statement contains a glaring error. You said “we, the American people”, when you should have said, “we, the science-challenged, heads-stuck-up-our-vertical-cheeks people”.

    WE, the American people, see you and your crowd for what you really are.


  8. joe Says:

    You know what’s funny? You can change around that headline like Mr. Potato Head, and it’s still true.

    Religious Conservative Leaders Dominate Media Coverage.

    Dominant Conservative Leaers, Religious Media Coverage.

    Religious Media Leders, Conservative Coverage Dominant

    Religious Leaeders’ Coverage, Conservatives Dominate Media

    Go ahead, try it!


  9. Zooey Says:

    Why do we need to get the views of religion in our news? Don’t the interested parties get their information in church?


  10. VerbalKint Says:

    The media seeks to create a simplistic, polarized view of everything. When dealing with any news story the media will annoint two sides, or nowadays just one side, to define the story. All other competing interests are ignored. Gray is not allowed; it must be black and white. It must be Neocon warriors against surrender monkeys. It must be righteous god-fearing Christians vs. godless, hate-filled, baby murderering liberals. It must be the invisible and silent majority of war supporters vs. the drug trafficker George Soros and MoveOn. It must be saving jobs for American families vs. tree huggers destroying jobs. Or it must whatever two unnamed administration officials say it is.

    The media should be deeply ashamed of its performance these past 6 years. But they aren’t the least bit so. It seriously calls into question the basic character of the people involved, many of whom are preening narcissists.


  11. raynmam Says:

    Again, my friends, this is all about who will bring the higher ratings and bigger sales and has little or nothing to do with balance, fairness, or even true religious beliefs.

    We live in a society where ‘news’ is just another component of entertainment.


  12. Daryll Says:

    Only, Daryll, none of those “blue” religious leader do.
    A$$wipe.

    Comment by wags — May 29, 2007 @ 11:34 am

    Sure they do. Wasn’t abortion recently banned?


  13. Michele Says:

    I suspect it is because the loud, self-righteous, arrogant and rude, clearly exemplified by many in the so-called “Evangelical” movement, are like a squeaky wheel–destined to get the media grease as long as we keep putting up their buffoonary.

    People who are truly attemting to emulate Christ would possess qualities of humility, decorum, peacefulness, (what are those fruitages of the spirit again? Oh yeah, “love, joy, peace, long-suffering, mildness, self-control, etc.), qualities that apparently don’t play well on the small screen and that fail to appeal to our blood-thirsty, intolerant brand of American Christianity.


  14. Buck Says:

    Both 10 and 11 nailed it. (sad to say)


  15. Daryll Says:

    Daryll, how about getting your lazy ass up out of bed Sunday morning and go to Church. Church attendance is down. I wonder why that is?

    Your statement contains a glaring error. You said “we, the American people”, when you should have said, “we, the science-challenged, heads-stuck-up-our-vertical-cheeks people”.

    WE, the American people, see you and your crowd for what you really are.

    Comment by Buck — May 29, 2007 @ 11:41 am

    Sir, I attended services yesterday (forsake not the assembling of brethren). Also, we are not mentally challenged. We have learned to accept God’s principles. How about you? It’s the only path to heaven.


  16. hil Says:

    Daryll… where exactly do you get your cocaine? can I get a hook up on that sh!t?


  17. Daryll Says:

    Why do we need to get the views of religion in our news? Don’t the interested parties get their information in church?

    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 11:41 am

    Our government should thrive on biblical principles. We must continue to testify to sinners, and bring them to Christ.


  18. Jackie Says:

    The religious groups will be glad to learn the man they got paid to put in office twice stabbed them in the back by supporting Mary Cheney’s relationship and the birth of the Dicksters grandson. The Church was paid by Satan and now sees the results. People wondered what Jesus or God would say about the Churches/Pastors taking the money to support a liar and crook like the Bush Administration. As told in the bible and by the past we all pay for our sins in the end. The Church killed Jesus without blinking an eye for the money and yes it’s happen again. God even showed his power as Israel prayed for success against Hezbella look at those results and who God choose. Makes you really think when you pray as Farwell did when he asked God for twenty more years as God answered him and he got his answer to that request.


  19. katy Says:

    i really enjoy welton gaddy’s show on AirAmericaRadio…

    at least i DID… not sure if the newest version has kept it on…
    too bad, if not… very informative and worthwhile…
    he’d be the first to call out the false prophets and liars…


  20. Barbarian Says:

    Our government should thrive on biblical principles. We must continue to testify to sinners, and bring them to Christ.

    Comment by Daryll

    And we should use leeches on our bodies whenever we feel ill.


  21. Daryll Says:

    I suspect it is because the loud, self-righteous, arrogant and rude, clearly exemplified by many in the so-called “Evangelical” movement, are like a squeaky wheel–destined to get the media grease as long as we keep putting up their buffoonary.

    People who are truly attemting to emulate Christ would possess qualities of humility, decorum, peacefulness, (what are those fruitages of the spirit again? Oh yeah, “love, joy, peace, long-suffering, mildness, self-control, etc.), qualities that apparently don’t play well on the small screen and that fail to appeal to our blood-thirsty, intolerant brand of American Christianity.

    Comment by Michele — May 29, 2007 @ 11:44 am

    Christ was also a God full of vengeance. He’s a loving God, but he’s also a jealous God. In order to show loyalty, you must follow his biblical laws.


  22. Crump's Brother Says:

    Daryll,

    “It’s the only path to heaven.”

    No such place


  23. imorgan82 Says:

    Daryll-

    You say “learning to accept God’s principles” is the only way to get into heaven as if there is some reliable source of information you base this claim in (the Bible is not). Heaven does not exist, nor does this fictional God that you so moronically believe cares about individuals’ sexual preferences. You religious nuts are all deluded and insane.


  24. Bluedahlia Says:

    Wow, Daryll attended church on Monday! What religion is that again?


  25. Daryll Says:

    Daryll… where exactly do you get your cocaine? can I get a hook up on that sh!t?

    Comment by hil — May 29, 2007 @ 11:50 am

    Trust me, I have some better than any drug on earth. It’s called the holy spirit. If you truly seek God, you can receive it, as well.


  26. Zooey Says:

    Wasn’t abortion recently banned?
    Comment by Daryll

    No.


  27. imorgan82 Says:

    Our government should thrive on biblical principles. We must continue to testify to sinners, and bring them to Christ.

    Comment by Daryll — May 29, 2007 @ 11:50 am

    Oh, you mean like the Crusades and Inquisition? Yeah. That’s a real bring spot in religious history. I encourage you to spout that off whenever you want to look stupid. Do you know anything about religion outside of some memorized passages?


  28. Buck Says:

    Daryll, church services on Monday? I went both Sunday morning for Sunday school and Sunday evening.

    Thank God my fellow church members love America. They seem to have a clear understanding that ‘WE’, as in “We the people…” stands for one and all, and not for just a few that spend way too much time being judgmental of others (which happens to be a sin).

    But this forum isn’t about yours (or my) beliefs. It all boils down to Separation of Church and State. Something I have no problem with.


  29. Wayne Says:

    Sir, I attended services yesterday ….
    Comment by Daryll

    Wasn’t yesterday Monday and not Sunday?

    What church has services on Monday?


  30. Daryll Says:

    i really enjoy welton gaddy’s show on AirAmericaRadio…

    at least i DID… not sure if the newest version has kept it on…
    too bad, if not… very informative and worthwhile…
    he’d be the first to call out the false prophets and liars…
    …

    Comment by katy — May 29, 2007 @ 11:53 am

    Has he truly searched his own soul?


  31. Zooey Says:

    Our government should thrive on biblical principles. We must continue to testify to sinners, and bring them to Christ.
    Comment by Daryll

    How’s the recruitment effort coming along, Daryll?

    So you like the whole Taliban idea, huh? Good for you! Tiffany will be thrilled.


  32. Zooey Says:

    Trust me, I have some better than any drug on earth. It’s called the holy spirit. If you truly seek God, you can receive it, as well.
    Comment by Daryll

    Daryll’s been sniffing God.


  33. Daryll Says:

    Daryll,

    “It’s the only path to heaven.”

    No such place

    Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 29, 2007 @ 11:55 am

    It will be known, very soon. Judgement Day is drawing nigh.


  34. Ashen Shard Says:

    I think someone should take the very sage advice given by Ron White to his homophobic cousin … ‘next time you have a thought… let it go.’


  35. joe Says:

    “In order to show loyalty, you must follow his biblical laws.”

    No, Darryll, you must love God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as you love yourself.

    I’m not feeling the love, Daryll. You can keep sacrificing those doves, or whatever your modern equivalent is, but without love, you are as a clanging bell.


  36. Wayne Says:

    Christ was also a God full of vengeance. He’s a loving God, but he’s also a jealous God. In order to show loyalty, you must follow his biblical laws.
    Comment by Daryll

    Vengence is a human idea. Something done for percieved wrongs.
    Is God petty? According to you he is.
    Jealousy is a character flaw. If God is perfect, why should he be jealous of any of his own creation?
    And Christ is not God, according to the Bible, but the son of God.
    Can you keep your own religion straight?
    Didn’t think so.


  37. Daryll Says:

    Our government should thrive on biblical principles. We must continue to testify to sinners, and bring them to Christ.
    Comment by Daryll

    How’s the recruitment effort coming along, Daryll?

    So you like the whole Taliban idea, huh? Good for you! Tiffany will be thrilled.

    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 11:59 am

    Sunday, we saved 12 souls. I can’t wait to save souls in Rio (Dec 18-24). We will visit the favelas to testify about Jesus’ works. Beware, Termas (4×4, Luomos, Solarium, etc.), Escort Services, and Club Help, we’re coming for you. We may agitate other vacationers who want to commit fornication or adultery, but Jesus’ word will be brought forth, and we will attempt to close these sexual establishments.


  38. NoOneYouKnow Says:

    I have to assume Ted Haggard’s numbers are from before he was busted doing crank with a gay hooker, although now that Ted’s a successfully reformed homosexual, the MSM probably loves him more. Charles Colson’s one of Nixon’s Watergate casualties who found God in prison. Nothing wrong with that, but apparently Jesus forgot to mention that being rightwing is not Jesus-like.


  39. Daryll Says:

    Christ was also a God full of vengeance. He’s a loving God, but he’s also a jealous God. In order to show loyalty, you must follow his biblical laws.
    Comment by Daryll

    Vengence is a human idea. Something done for percieved wrongs.
    Is God petty? According to you he is.
    Jealousy is a character flaw. If God is perfect, why should he be jealous of any of his own creation?
    And Christ is not God, according to the Bible, but the son of God.
    Can you keep your own religion straight?
    Didn’t think so.

    Comment by Wayne — May 29, 2007 @ 12:06 pm

    Christ, Lord, God and Savior are titles used to describe Jesus. Per the bible, there is only one God and his name is Jesus.


  40. Daryll Says:

    Christ was also a God full of vengeance. He’s a loving God, but he’s also a jealous God. In order to show loyalty, you must follow his biblical laws.
    Comment by Daryll

    Vengence is a human idea. Something done for percieved wrongs.
    Is God petty? According to you he is.
    Jealousy is a character flaw. If God is perfect, why should he be jealous of any of his own creation?
    And Christ is not God, according to the Bible, but the son of God.
    Can you keep your own religion straight?
    Didn’t think so.

    Comment by Wayne — May 29, 2007 @ 12:06 pm

    Jesus becomes a jealous God when you decide to put other Gods before him (religious symbols, money, material things, ect.).


  41. Daryll Says:

    I have to assume Ted Haggard’s numbers are from before he was busted doing crank with a gay hooker, although now that Ted’s a successfully reformed homosexual, the MSM probably loves him more. Charles Colson’s one of Nixon’s Watergate casualties who found God in prison. Nothing wrong with that, but apparently Jesus forgot to mention that being rightwing is not Jesus-like.

    Comment by NoOneYouKnow — May 29, 2007 @ 12:07 pm

    Jesus had conservative views.


  42. Wayne Says:

    there is only one God and his name is Jesus.

    Comment by Daryll

    It is hilarious, the amount of ignorance you have of your own claimed religion.


  43. Oversight is a Bitch. Says:

    It’s funny that the Conservatives’ elected leader, President Bush, speaks like a Christian but almost NONE of Bush’s policies are in line with the teachings of Jesus.

    I guess I haven’t found the Biblical passage where Jesus asks us to “Cast out your downtrodden brothers, for they do not have the proper paperwork to be considered citizens and should therefore be arrested.” Or maybe I missed Jesus teaching us, “You who are wealthy should be given additional tax breaks, in that way you will become wealthier on the backs of the poorest among us.” Or, “Raise your sword against thy enemies.”

    None of these sound at all like, “Whatever you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me.” Or, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.”


  44. Zooey Says:

    Sunday, we saved 12 souls.

    Eating cookies and drinking juice after services ain’t saving souls, Daryll. Wait to see if they come back….

    I can’t wait to save souls in Rio (Dec 18-24). We will visit the favelas to testify about Jesus’ works. Beware, Termas (4×4, Luomos, Solarium, etc.), Escort Services, and Club Help, we’re coming for you. We may agitate other vacationers who want to commit fornication or adultery, but Jesus’ word will be brought forth, and we will attempt to close these sexual establishments.
    Comment by Daryll

    You know what, Daryll? I really do hope you survive your trip to the favelas of Brazil. Send us a postcard, eh?


  45. Patrick1 Says:

    Silly libs, don’t you know only fake christians matter when it comes to TV?


  46. Zooey Says:

    Jesus had conservative views.
    Comment by Daryll

    No, Daryll, he didn’t. Some examples:

    Peacemaking, not War Making: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] Resist
    not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39] I say unto you, Love your
    enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute
    you; [Matthew 5:44]

    The Death Penalty: Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21]

    Crime and Punishment: If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her. [John 8:7] Do not judge, lest
    you too be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to
    you. [Matthew 7:1 & 2.]


  47. Daryll Says:

    It’s funny that the Conservatives’ elected leader, President Bush, speaks like a Christian but almost NONE of Bush’s policies are in line with the teachings of Jesus.

    I guess I haven’t found the Biblical passage where Jesus asks us to “Cast out your downtrodden brothers, for they do not have the proper paperwork to be considered citizens and should therefore be arrested.” Or maybe I missed Jesus teaching us, “You who are wealthy should be given additional tax breaks, in that way you will become wealthier on the backs of the poorest among us.” Or, “Raise your sword against thy enemies.”

    None of these sound at all like, “Whatever you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me.” Or, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.”

    Comment by Oversight is a Bitch. — May 29, 2007 @ 12:15 pm

    Hey, the wealthy became successful off blood, sweat and tears. If anything, you should thank them for stabilizing our economy.


  48. Oversight is a Bitch. Says:

    #47. Spoken like a fake Christian.


  49. Oversight is a Bitch. Says:

    Daryll must be dumbfounded trying to defend Bush’ policies in light of the teachings of Jesus. Not surprising, since Jesus’ teachings were not those of Conservatives.


  50. Daryll Says:

    Jesus had conservative views.
    Comment by Daryll

    No, Daryll, he didn’t. Some examples:

    Peacemaking, not War Making: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] Resist
    not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39] I say unto you, Love your
    enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute
    you; [Matthew 5:44]

    The Death Penalty: Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21]

    Crime and Punishment: If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her. [John 8:7] Do not judge, lest
    you too be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to
    you. [Matthew 7:1 & 2.]

    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

    You forgot Romans (homosexuality), the other ten commandments, Corinthians (re-marriage and divorce), etc. Please cease picking and choosing scriptures.


  51. Wayne Says:

    Hey, the wealthy became successful off blood, sweat and tears. If anything, you should thank them for stabilizing our economy.

    Comment by Daryll

    Matthew 19: 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

    As I said before, the ignorance of your own religion is hilarious


  52. President Clinton Says:

    Despite the fact most religious Americans are moderate or progressive, in the news media it is overwhelmingly conservative leaders who are presented as the voice of religion. This represents a particularly meaningful distortion since progressive religious leaders tend to focus on different issues and offer an entirely different perspective than their conservative counterparts.

    thinkprogress.org

    “Despite the fact that most religious Americans are moderat or progressive…”? really? where is the study? where is the source for this?

    Really? Most of us are NOT religious and most religious individuals fall on the right of center.

    I wonder if thinkprogress.org would be willing to post the study that shows this.

    doubt it.


  53. Ginko Says:

    Daryl

    another repressed, brain washed automatron for Jesus.
    Dumber than dirt like all the right wingers.
    Look at all the criminals, pedophiles and closet homosexuals produced by this bunch. ABORTION IS STILL LEGAL.
    All you “prolifers” are not prolife at all, not one of you cares about life. Once all those unwanted babies you are trying to save are born not one of you is there to pay for and support them in LIFE. You could care less about the LIFE of the woman who is carrying the UNBORN fetus. You can’t selectively be “prolife” and be believable. Where are all the “prolifers” once that child is born? NOWHERE to be found.
    Keep believing in your fairy tales Daryl, your ilk are nothing but dishonest, lying criminals.

    Try reading the Sermon on the Mount and stop using Jesus to cover for your Nazi agenda.


  54. KRank Says:

    Hey, the wealthy became successful off blood, sweat and tears. If anything, you should thank them for stabilizing our economy.

    Comment by Daryll — May 29, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

    That’s as close as you’ve ever come to an interesting point, Daryll — too bad it has NOTHING to do with the quotes offered: “Whatever you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me.” Or, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.” You just kind of ignored that little disconnect, the one between captialism and the Christian call to serve the poor.

    But that’s okay — after all, your goal as a Christian is “loyalty” rather than actual Christ-like behavior. Which sounds about right for a conservative.


  55. Daryll Says:

    #47. Spoken like a fake Christian.

    Comment by Oversight is a Bitch. — May 29, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

    Pertaining to taxes, more tax money is being received from an individual who purchases a Maybach ($ 300,000) than an indivual who leases an Acura ($40,000). Libs, please thank the rich citizens for keeping our economy stable.


  56. joe Says:

    “You forgot Romans (homosexuality), the other ten commandments, Corinthians (re-marriage and divorce), etc.”

    Hey, Darryl, how come you didn’t reference any of the gospels?

    The question was about Jesus - why didn’t you point us towards the parts of the Bible where Jesus denounces homosexuals, since that’s what the subject was?

    Would you care to answer this question for the readers, or should I?


  57. Daryll Says:

    Hey, the wealthy became successful off blood, sweat and tears. If anything, you should thank them for stabilizing our economy.

    Comment by Daryll

    Matthew 19: 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

    As I said before, the ignorance of your own religion is hilarious

    Comment by Wayne — May 29, 2007 @ 12:24 pm

    It stated that it was “hard” not “impossible”.


  58. KRank Says:

    You forgot Romans (homosexuality), the other ten commandments, Corinthians (re-marriage and divorce), etc. Please cease picking and choosing scriptures.

    Comment by Daryll — May 29, 2007 @ 12:23 pm

    And YOU forgot that ALL of the texts you cited above were the views of PAUL, not Jesus. Nice try, though.

    Ah, on second thought it wasn’t even a nice try.


  59. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Jesus had conservative views.
    Comment by Daryll

    No, Daryll, he didn’t. Some examples:

    Peacemaking, not War Making: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] Resist
    not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39] I say unto you, Love your
    enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute
    you; [Matthew 5:44]

    The Death Penalty: Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21]

    Crime and Punishment: If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her. [John 8:7] Do not judge, lest
    you too be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to
    you. [Matthew 7:1 & 2.]

    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

    1) Why are you quoting from the Bible, by your own admittance you believe it is a joke, mythology. Stop being a hypocrite.

    2) I am sure that Jesus Christ would be pleased with the millions upon millions of abortions, killing of innocents being performed by and pushed by the left wingers of America. Don’t you be a hypocrite and quote “Thou shall not kill” when the left wing in America is more than ok with killing innocent human babies, whose only “crime” was being conceived.

    3)I find it hillarious when the left who hate Christ, hate religion, etc try to tell Christians how to be good Christian.

    4)Stop being the typical left winger and stop quoting from the Bible the parts of it that support your ideology. There are many parts of the Bible in which war was necessary to stop evil. Might want to look at the creation of Israel and how it has to fight war, after war, after war to stop evil.

    The Beatitudes, which you quote, are but a small part in a very big and complicated book and religion.

    I would suggest that you stop being a simpleton and that you run off and get an education.

    try to study some theology before you speak of that which you don’t know.


  60. Oversight is a Bitch. Says:

    Daryll can’t do it! He cannot defend Bush’s policies based on the teachings of Jesus. Bwaaahahaha! Conservatives have to pick and choose, mostly from the Old Testament, to find anything to support their positions, whereas Liberals can simply point to the teachings of Jesus. Hahaha!


  61. Oversight is a Bitch. Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats: I am a CHRISTIAN. In fact, my political views are more in line with Jesus’ teaching than are yours. God will judge you, so you should probably repent and begin voting for politicians who actually care for the poor of this world.


  62. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    “You forgot Romans (homosexuality), the other ten commandments, Corinthians (re-marriage and divorce), etc.”

    Hey, Darryl, how come you didn’t reference any of the gospels?

    The question was about Jesus - why didn’t you point us towards the parts of the Bible where Jesus denounces homosexuals, since that’s what the subject was?

    Would you care to answer this question for the readers, or should I?

    Comment by joe — May 29, 2007 @ 12:29 pm

    why don’t you quote for us where Jesus said that war was bad? I mean you seem to know what Jesus said, right? so do point to the place where Jesus said, “War is evil.”

    I won’t hold my breath.


  63. Newt Gringo Says:

    Our government should thrive on biblical principles.
    Comment by Daryll

    I’ll ask you the question I ask all “Our laws are based on the Bible” apologists…

    Does the Bible have a commandment against rape?
    If so, which one is it?
    If not, why not?


  64. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Daryll can’t do it! He cannot defend Bush’s policies based on the teachings of Jesus. Bwaaahahaha! Conservatives have to pick and choose, mostly from the Old Testament, to find anything to support their positions, whereas Liberals can simply point to the teachings of Jesus. Hahaha!

    Comment by Oversight is a Bitch. — May 29, 2007 @ 12:37 pm

    pick and choose? You can’t be this stupid, Bitch? your name is quite fitting.

    did you not see what you left wing friends just did, but pick and choose quotes from the Bible to fit their agenda?

    typical liberal, too blinded by ideology to see his own hypocrisy.


  65. Oversight is a Bitch. Says:

    Daryll: you should really thank Bill Clinton for creating a strong economy. He did much more than Bush. He was a true leader.


  66. Daryll Says:

    Jesus had conservative views.
    Comment by Daryll

    No, Daryll, he didn’t. Some examples:

    Peacemaking, not War Making: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] Resist
    not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39] I say unto you, Love your
    enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute
    you; [Matthew 5:44]

    The Death Penalty: Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21]

    Crime and Punishment: If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her. [John 8:7] Do not judge, lest
    you too be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to
    you. [Matthew 7:1 & 2.]

    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

    1) Why are you quoting from the Bible, by your own admittance you believe it is a joke, mythology. Stop being a hypocrite.

    2) I am sure that Jesus Christ would be pleased with the millions upon millions of abortions, killing of innocents being performed by and pushed by the left wingers of America. Don’t you be a hypocrite and quote “Thou shall not kill” when the left wing in America is more than ok with killing innocent human babies, whose only “crime” was being conceived.

    3)I find it hillarious when the left who hate Christ, hate religion, etc try to tell Christians how to be good Christian.

    4)Stop being the typical left winger and stop quoting from the Bible the parts of it that support your ideology. There are many parts of the Bible in which war was necessary to stop evil. Might want to look at the creation of Israel and how it has to fight war, after war, after war to stop evil.

    The Beatitudes, which you quote, are but a small part in a very big and complicated book and religion.

    I would suggest that you stop being a simpleton and that you run off and get an education.

    try to study some theology before you speak of that which you don’t know.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats — May 29, 2007 @ 12:31 pm

    Sorry, but I’m a conservative. I do not have liberal views. How about you? You seem to have liberal views.


  67. Jackie Says:

    These are some funny comments. I wonder as Rev. Farwell said he asked God for twenty more years yet died shortly after have any of you heard from him lately. No one in the White House is using the teaching of Jesus or God, maybe that’s why things are going to hell in a hand basket. Judas was paid and the GOP/Church/Media was paid with those pieces of gold to spread the word of Satan. It’s no surprise yet interesting that comments are so weird. I guess Bush/Cheney succeeded in dumbing down Americans.


  68. wags Says:

    Daryll is a perfect example of conservatism’s ultimate goal: to provide a superior moral justification for their own selfishness.


  69. Ginko Says:

    leftwingnut

    who are you to tell anyone to stop quoting the bible? How dare you. You can’t defend even your own beliefs!

    just another racist nazi masquerading as a Christian and waving the bible around as a cover. Lying, corrupt criminals one and all. I hope there is a Hell because all of you will end up there with your sleazy corrupt pal Falwell.


  70. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Daryll,

    I am on your side. I have to laugh at the level of stupidity from the left, don’t you?

    I mean here they are countless of them who constantly attack Christianity and Christians trying to quote the Bible and telling true Christians how to behave.

    ahhh the hypocrisy of the left, it is never ending.


  71. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Daryll: you should really thank Bill Clinton for creating a strong economy. He did much more than Bush. He was a true leader.

    Comment by Oversight is a Bitch. — May 29, 2007 @ 12:41 pm

    Clinton only did one thing, interns. The economy was strong in the 1990s thanks to the Republican control Congress, nothing to do with Bill.

    and as for Bush’s economy, please it is as strong if not stronger than Bill’s. Stop spewing left wing propaganda.

    and as for you being a Christina, I very much doubt it. If you were, you wouldn’t be saying the crap that you are saying.


  72. Daryll Says:

    Daryll,

    I am on your side. I have to laugh at the level of stupidity from the left, don’t you?

    I mean here they are countless of them who constantly attack Christianity and Christians trying to quote the Bible and telling true Christians how to behave.

    ahhh the hypocrisy of the left, it is never ending.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats — May 29, 2007 @ 12:43 pm

    Amen to that, brother.


  73. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    leftwingnut

    who are you to tell anyone to stop quoting the bible? How dare you. You can’t defend even your own beliefs!

    just another racist nazi masquerading as a Christian and waving the bible around as a cover. Lying, corrupt criminals one and all. I hope there is a Hell because all of you will end up there with your sleazy corrupt pal Falwell.

    Comment by Ginko — May 29, 2007 @ 12:41 pm

    Is this the best you have? typical left wing crap, calling anyone on the right a Nazi? you know how old this tactic is? it dates as far back as the Bolshevik revolution. Please try to be original. The communist have been calling nazis anyone and everyone that disagrees with their ideology.

    anyway, I am waiting for you to quote where in the Gospels Jesus said, “War is evil”


  74. Wayne Says:

    It stated that it was “hard” not “impossible”.

    Comment by Daryll

    it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle …

    It is astounding your ignorance of your own religion…..


  75. timmy Says:

    Progressive religous leader-isn’t that an oxymoron?


  76. Crump's Brother Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats,

    “I am on your side. I have to laugh at the level of arrogance from the right, don’t you?

    I mean here they are countless of them who constantly attack rationality and reasonableness by quoting the Bible and telling everyone on the planet how to behave.

    ahhh the arrogance of the right, it is never ending.”


  77. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    These are some funny comments. I wonder as Rev. Farwell said he asked God for twenty more years yet died shortly after have any of you heard from him lately. No one in the White House is using the teaching of Jesus or God, maybe that’s why things are going to hell in a hand basket. Judas was paid and the GOP/Church/Media was paid with those pieces of gold to spread the word of Satan. It’s no surprise yet interesting that comments are so weird. I guess Bush/Cheney succeeded in dumbing down Americans.

    Comment by Jackie — May 29, 2007 @ 12:41 pm

    Jackie, another hypocrite from the left.

    The left doesn’t mind preaching in Churches, Clinton, Kerry, Obama, etc, etc, are constantly going into Baptists churches and preaching about politics.

    The right may have had Falwell, but the left has Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton, who constantly mix religion and politics.

    Incredible how the left cries about seperation of Church and State when they want to shut down the right wing, but could careless that their own politicians constantly mix religion and politics.

    why the hypocrisy, you simple minded left wing nuts?


  78. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    It stated that it was “hard” not “impossible”.

    Comment by Daryll

    it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle …

    It is astounding your ignorance of your own religion…..

    Comment by Wayne — May 29, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

    Wayne,

    retard, the use of the word “easier” does not equal to impossible. Just admit who you are, a stupid left wing moonbat that spews propaganda from the left.

    wow, the level of stupidity coming from the left wing moonbats.


  79. Barbarian Says:

    and as for you being a Christina, I very much doubt it. If you were, you wouldn’t be saying the crap that you are saying.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    It’s funny, but you speak like your opinion matters. You are bias against liberals, and you have a knack of hypocrisy (because you are the ideal representative of that failing quality), so thank GOD your opinion does not matter.

    And I don’t think that user is really a Christina…maybe more of a Paula or Rebecca?


  80. Barbarian Says:

    My italics skillz kicks assz.


  81. Ginko Says:

    LOL as if wither Daryl or leftwingnut have two nickels to rub together. They are both typing from their trailer waiting on their govt. check and eating govt. cheese.

    Nazis neocons had blind faith just like you wingers do. You locksteppers are not capable of reasoned independant thought, if you were there is no way you would support such a corrupt criminal like Bushie.


  82. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Progressive religous leader-isn’t that an oxymoron?

    Comment by timmy — May 29, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    It is and it isn’t. the left wing in America don’t care about religion, as long as tha treligion falls in-line with their left wing ideology.

    they could careless that Bill Clinton constantly invoked the name of God, way more times than Bush, why? because Bill is on their side.

    The left could careless that constantly on the campaign trail and in many other occassions, left wingers like Barack Obama give political speeches in Baptist and other types of religious Churches. Kerry, Edward, and many other left wing politicians do this, but the left doesn’t care. They only care when Bush or another Republican says something about God.


  83. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    and as for you being a Christina, I very much doubt it. If you were, you wouldn’t be saying the crap that you are saying.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    It’s funny, but you speak like your opinion matters. You are bias against liberals, and you have a knack of hypocrisy (because you are the ideal representative of that failing quality), so thank GOD your opinion does not matter.

    And I don’t think that user is really a Christina…maybe more of a Paula or Rebecca?

    Comment by Barbarian — May 29, 2007 @ 12:51 pm

    My italics skillz kicks assz.

    Comment by Barbarian — May 29, 2007 @ 12:52 pm

    hmmmm….and you left wingers do the same thing, constantly speak as if your opinion mattered.

    shit, thinkprogress.org believes that this joke of a webiste and the pathetic left wing moonbats that post on here matter. Little do they know that their opinion really doesn’t matter.


  84. KRank Says:

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats — May 29, 2007 @ 12:31 pm

    1) Why are you quoting from the Bible, by your own admittance you believe it is a joke, mythology. Stop being a hypocrite.

    Did Zooey ever admit that she believes the Bible is a joke? Can someone clear this up? Zoo? What say you?

    2) I am sure that Jesus Christ would be pleased with the millions upon millions of abortions, killing of innocents being performed by and pushed by the left wingers of America. Don’t you be a hypocrite and quote “Thou shall not kill” when the left wing in America is more than ok with killing innocent human babies, whose only “crime” was being conceived.

    And this excuses the Right’s bear-hug of Christianity while cheerleading a war of choice HOW? I understand WHY you would want to ignore that point, but really, it only makes you feel better, it doesn’t make a convincing argument of any kind.

    3)I find it hillarious when the left who hate Christ, hate religion, etc try to tell Christians how to be good Christian.

    I find it hilarious when wingnuts claim things that are demonstrably untrue and then wave them about as if they were facts. The fact is, there are millions of observant Christians, Jews and Muslims (although the last two probably don’t count for you) who are politically liberal because their faith points them in that direction. The fact that those who are not religious would be drawn to a political view that takes seriously their right to dissent is no surprise, but neither should it impugn the religious sincerity of the millions of religious liberals. (Just as the fact that racist Americans would be drawn to the Republican party should not impugn the racial values of mainstream Republicans.)

    4)Stop being the typical left winger and stop quoting from the Bible the parts of it that support your ideology. There are many parts of the Bible in which war was necessary to stop evil. Might want to look at the creation of Israel and how it has to fight war, after war, after war to stop evil.

    You’re right. WE should give a fuller, more balanced picture of the Bible and leave it to right-wingers to freely quote only those “the parts of it that support your ideology” right? Yes, there are parts of the Bible that celebrate warfare. But how many of those parts are in the words of Jesus? You know Jesus, the Christ ? the guy for whom the Christian religion is named? Seems to me that if you want to be a true Christian you’re going to want to follow Christ. And if you’re going to follow Christ, you’re going to want to pay attention to WHAT CHRIST SAID. The Old Testament should be secondary to a Christian, right?

    The Beatitudes, which you quote, are but a small part in a very big and complicated book and religion.

    True, but they are among the very few sections of this “big and complicated book” that report words actually attributed to Jesus Christ. Therefore, perhaps a Christian might take them a bit more seriously than all the rest of it.

    I would suggest that you stop being a simpleton and that you run off and get an education.

    try to study some theology before you speak of that which you don’t know.

    We poor uneducated libs should take your kind-hearted admonishments to heart. After all your words come from a true loving Christian heart, right? Thanks for your generosity, such as it is.


  85. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Nazis neocons had blind faith just like you wingers do. You locksteppers are not capable of reasoned independant thought, if you were there is no way you would support such a corrupt criminal like Bushie.

    Comment by Ginko — May 29, 2007 @ 12:53 pm

    Blind faith? Ginko, ginko, my little communist fool. It is you the one that is full of blind faith. Your blind faith on sites like this joe of a site, your blind faith on your left wing leaders makes you sound like an idiot and a stupid fool.

    incredible that an idiot like Ginko is trying to make fun of others for supposedly having blind faith. Look in the mirror Ginko. It is your blind faith on the left wing ideology that is your undoing, my child.


  86. Tweedster Says:

    It is your blind faith on the left wing ideology that is your undoing, my child.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    Condescend much?


  87. Zooey Says:

    1) Why are you quoting from the Bible, by your own admittance you believe it is a joke, mythology. Stop being a hypocrite.

    Oh, quoting the bible is an exclusive right to biblle thumping hypocrites?

    How would you know anything about me? Are you a regular commenter using yet another name? Show me where I have said the bible is a joke. I have siad it’s mythology.

    2) I am sure that Jesus Christ would be pleased with the millions upon millions of abortions, killing of innocents being performed by and pushed by the left wingers of America. Don’t you be a hypocrite and quote “Thou shall not kill” when the left wing in America is more than ok with killing innocent human babies, whose only “crime” was being conceived.

    I’m sure your Jesus would be so disappointed in you right now.

    3)I find it hillarious when the left who hate Christ, hate religion, etc try to tell Christians how to be good Christian.

    I don’t hate god, jesus, christians, or you. You can’t say the same thing. I’m more christian than you are.

    4)Stop being the typical left winger and stop quoting from the Bible the parts of it that support your ideology. There are many parts of the Bible in which war was necessary to stop evil. Might want to look at the creation of Israel and how it has to fight war, after war, after war to stop evil.

    Sorry, this is America. I do and say what I want — just like you do. Like you don’t quote from the bible to support your crap.

    The Beatitudes, which you quote, are but a small part in a very big and complicated book and religion.

    Hence, the reason I said those were a few examples. Idiot.

    I would suggest that you stop being a simpleton and that you run off and get an education.

    Suggest away…

    try to study some theology before you speak of that which you don’t know.
    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    I suggest you f*ck off, you lying hypocritical pseudo-christian.


  88. Newt Gringo Says:

    wow, the level of stupidity coming from the left wing moonbats.
    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    Enlighten us, please. Daryll refuses to answer, so I’ll ask you the question I ask all “Our laws are based on the Bible” apologists…

    Does the Bible have a commandment against rape?
    If so, which one is it?
    If not, why not?


  89. Zooey Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats = valiantthehater

    ’nuff said.


  90. Juan C Says:

    Comment by Zooey

    You are on fire, lady. ;)


  91. Crump's Brother Says:

    Zooey,

    “Leftwingersaremoonbats = valiantthehater”

    obviously!!!


  92. Zooey Says:

    We poor uneducated libs should take your kind-hearted admonishments to heart. After all your words come from a true loving Christian heart, right? Thanks for your generosity, such as it is.
    Comment by KRank

    Thanks, KRank. These pseudo-christians are a hateful bunch, aren’t they?


  93. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    wow, the level of stupidity coming from the left wing moonbats.
    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    Enlighten us, please. Daryll refuses to answer, so I’ll ask you the question I ask all “Our laws are based on the Bible” apologists…

    Does the Bible have a commandment against rape?
    If so, which one is it?
    If not, why not?

    Comment by Newt Gringo — May 29, 2007 @ 1:03 pm

    Here is a clue, read the 10 Commandments, study them, learn what they mean. After you do this, you will find out where in Christianity, rape is considered wrong, evil, etc.

    stop being such a simpleton fool.

    now you may want to enlighten everyone here, where in the Bible do we find Jesus say, “War is evil”.


  94. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Comment by Zooey

    You are on fire, lady. ;)

    Comment by Juan C — May 29, 2007 @ 1:06 pm

    So, Zooey can’t defend her stupid stances and now claims that I am someone she hates or something.

    How typical of the left wingers. No matter the left wing moonbat site one posts in, you all sound and look the same. How sad for you all.


  95. joe Says:

    “why don’t you quote for us where Jesus said that war was bad?”

    Because I never made the argument that the “Prince of Peace” had denounced war, that’s why.

    On the other hand, Patrick1 DID make the argument that Jesus had denounced homosexuality.

    Bit of a difference there, you know.


  96. Zooey Says:

    You are on fire, lady. ;)
    Comment by Juan C

    Heh. :-)

    I’m sure Leftwingersaremoonbats would suggest I’m burning in hell.
    I’m saving him a seat — closest to the fire.


  97. Ginko Says:

    haha typical winger, no real answer or response to any question but they bring up Clinton. I would take my Prez lying about a blow job any day of the week over lying about actual Pres. business. Bush and his locksteppers are so incredibly corrupt they have nearly brought our country down. The 20%ers are the dumbest people in America, not one of them deserves to hold office. Every day another one is indicted. Money grubbing criminals that they are. Got a little TOO greedy trying to take over the Justice dept. and got caught. HA. HA. HA. We are going to nail you bastids, every one of you. Does you God approve of your representatives lying to Congress? The things you do in the name of Jesus, it’s disgusting.
    Every Rethug in the Congressional hearings was willing to SUPPORT the lying criminals who have invaded our Justice dept. and broke many laws in the process yet even faced with the hard facts and proof they continue to support these criminals saying, “move along, nothing to see here” which really means, move along you are getting too close to uncovering all our crimes, please stop looking before you find the evidence of how we rigged the last two elections to get this criminal in the White House. They are all criminals using Jesus as their cover.
    Nothing they do or say is Christianlike.
    The 80% will prevail, thank GOD.


  98. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    I suggest you f*ck off, you lying hypocritical pseudo-christian.

    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 1:02 pm

    typical of a left wing moonbat. You can’t give an intelligent respond, so you go off the deep end and make a laughable attempt at insulting those you disagree with.

    how typical of the simple minded left wingers.


  99. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    We poor uneducated libs should take your kind-hearted admonishments to heart. After all your words come from a true loving Christian heart, right? Thanks for your generosity, such as it is.
    Comment by KRank

    Thanks, KRank. These pseudo-christians are a hateful bunch, aren’t they?

    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 1:07 pm

    Zooey, you are kidding right? a left winger claiming that we are hateful? Now that is a funny joke, right? you are trying to be funny, hypocrite.

    The hate from the left towards Bush, Republicans, Christians, etc on this site would be laughable, if it wasn’t so pathetic.

    typical left wing hypocrite.


  100. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Comment by Ginko — May 29, 2007 @ 1:09 pm

    and that is your problem child. You have been conditioned to believe that the only thing Bill Clinton lied about was a blow job. How truly sad and stupid of you.

    Clinton did a good number on you, so did the left wing media and the Democrats. You have been coco washed to believe the left wing propaganda.


  101. Crump's Brother Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats,

    “where in the Bible do we find Jesus say, “War is evil”.”

    Well he did say ‘turn the other cheek’.

    But I can show in the bible where one could stone their child for mouthing off, or stone their wife for being unpure on the night of the wedding.

    Everyone picks and chooses bible versus based on their own moral compass. To be a literalist of that book, would be to condone stoning of children. Is that you? I doubt it. So can everyone get off their “I know what is really intended by the bible” high horse? It takes a certain arrogance to think that anyone actually is the one who gets the bible’s intent correct.

    I’m quite sure that during the inquisistion, the church justified their horrible actions by quoting the bible. So let’s stop with this already.


  102. big papa Says:

    BACK! BACK to the Dark Ages and Spanish (Catholic) Inquisition!

    BACK!

    -Conservatism-


  103. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    The 80% will prevail, thank GOD.

    Comment by Ginko — May 29, 2007 @ 1:09 pm

    oh please, stop spewing polls. If we go by polls, only 29% of Americans approve of the Democratic led Congress. idiot. this means that 70% of Americans are against your Democratic led Congress.

    think about that, fool, before you keep on spewing left wing propaganda.

    you sound like a 15 year old pimple face kid.


  104. DRxJ Says:

    Sunday, we saved 12 souls. I can’t wait to save souls in Rio (Dec 18-24). We will visit the favelas to testify about Jesus’ works. Beware, Termas (4×4, Luomos, Solarium, etc.), Escort Services, and Club Help, we’re coming for you.
    Comment by Monsignor Daryll of 2 Secondland — May 29, 2007 @ 12:06 pm

    First, nice advertisment of places you’ll be visiting in Rio (though ,why do I doubt it will be to “save” souls). Geez, if I were not married, or not faithful, I would now know where to visit. (and another point, how does one in your church “learn” about such places? Ton of “research” on the internets?)
    Second, congrats on “personally” saving 12 souls. Now, here’s my questions for you.
    Were they saved by personally accepting and developing a relationship with Jesus Christ, as their savior, or are they just conforming to your church’s rules and regulations?
    Big difference, ya know.

    Third, since you pick and choose quotes from the Bible, you have yet to answer my question posed to you months ago. I’ll ask, again:
    Daryll, am I going to H E Double L because I am married to a woman who is once divorced?


  105. katy Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats = valiantthehater
    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 1:04 pm

    and daryll is a parody… let the 2 of them hash it out here…

    ’nuff said.


  106. Tweedster Says:

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    Where did Jesus advocate war?


  107. DRxJ Says:

    you sound like a 15 year old pimple face kid.
    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats aka valiantthehater — May 29, 2007 @ 1:15 pm

    …and this right here shows us the true compassionate (c)hristian. (note: I, for one, do not capitalize the C for pseudo-christians, as
    they are not true followers. In fact, are the true misleaders)

    Shall I point out that everyone of your post is negative, hate filled, and full of name calling.
    What part of “love thy neighbor” do you not understand???


  108. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats,

    “where in the Bible do we find Jesus say, “War is evil”.”

    Well he did say ‘turn the other cheek’.

    But I can show in the bible where one could stone their child for mouthing off, or stone their wife for being unpure on the night of the wedding.

    Everyone picks and chooses bible versus based on their own moral compass. To be a literalist of that book, would be to condone stoning of children. Is that you? I doubt it. So can everyone get off their “I know what is really intended by the bible” high horse? It takes a certain arrogance to think that anyone actually is the one who gets the bible’s intent correct.

    I’m quite sure that during the inquisistion, the church justified their horrible actions by quoting the bible. So let’s stop with this already.

    Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 29, 2007 @ 1:13 pm

    Crump, by all means, show us the chapter, verse and line where you can find in the Bible that a child should be stoned for mouthing off.

    and as for the Inquistion, please, please, please!!! the Inquistion was humane, it was Heaven compared to the secular punishments of the same time!! to the punishment that civilian authorities used.

    why aren’t you complaining about these secular punishments, eh?

    complete and utter ignorance.


  109. shane Says:

    Daryll’s been sniffing God.

    Comment by Zooey

    That’s because he thinks God is a tube of glue.


  110. Newt Gringo Says:

    Here is a clue, read the 10 Commandments, study them, learn what they mean. After you do this, you will find out where in Christianity, rape is considered wrong, evil, etc.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    Commandment 1 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 2 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 3 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 4 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 5 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 6 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 7 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 8 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 9 - Doesn’t ban rape
    Commandment 10 - Doesn’t ban rape

    So according to these commandments, these rules upon which you base all of your actions, and which you follow in order to cakewalk into heaven when you’re dead, rape is OK.


  111. shane Says:

    It will be known, very soon. Judgement Day is drawing nigh.

    Comment by Daryll

    Thanks Daryll, good to know what the American Taliban thinks.


  112. KRank Says:

    Daryll refuses to answer, so I’ll ask you the question I ask all “Our laws are based on the Bible” apologists…

    Does the Bible have a commandment against rape?
    If so, which one is it?
    If not, why not?

    Comment by Newt Gringo — May 29, 2007 @ 1:03 pm

    Newt, good question. Here’s an interesting exercise: let’s go through the Ten Commnadments one by one and see how many actually relate to our laws. I’m sure it will be an educational experience for teh wingnuts, since they often trumpet the Ten Commandments but then can’t list them.

    1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
    In our laws? Nope. The establishment of a state religion is expressly forbidden under the US Constitution.

    2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain.
    In our laws? Nope. Freedom of speech and all that.

    3. Keep holy the Sabbath.
    In our laws? In scattered rural counties, mainly in the south. Known as blue laws. Not expressly forbidden by the Constitution, but hardly a cornerstone of society.

    4. Honor thy mother and thy father.
    In our laws? Nope. Nothing in our legal system reflects any kind of respect or honor legally due our family members or community elders. Sure, you can’t abuse them, but that’s not the same thing as “honor”, is it?

    5. Thou shalt not kill.
    In our laws? Absolutely. That’s one.

    6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
    In our laws? Again, there are isolated pockets where adultery is a crime, but, really, it’s nothing but a civil matter between married couples, primarily. So, NOPE. And Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Ted Haggard and a whole slew of Republicans are mighty grateful for that, too.

    7. Thou shalt not steal.
    In our laws? Absolutely. That’s two.

    8. Thou shalt not bear false witness.
    In our laws? You bet. Ask Scooter Libby about this one. That’s three.

    9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.
    In our laws? Not even close. Hell, if coveting our neighbor’s wife were a crime, we wouldn’t have an advertising or entertainment industry.

    10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house.
    In our laws? Nope. see number 9.

    There we have it. A grand total of THREE commandments enshrined in the laws of our nation. Not such a good record, is it? Mybe that’s what’s got Daryll’s knickers in a twist.


  113. shane Says:

    Christ, Lord, God and Savior are titles used to describe Jesus. Per the bible, there is only one God and his name is Jesus.

    Comment by Daryll

    There’s at least 40 versions of the New Testament, idiot. And they all say different things. Which one is yours, The Bible for Dummies?


  114. DRxJ Says:

    the Inquistion was humane, it was Heaven
    Comment by Leftwingersarevaliantthehaterhaters — May 29, 2007 @ 1:23 pm

    …and for those who would entertain an intelligent debate with this poster, I present to you, exhibit A (above in italics).
    My conclusion: any intelligent debate is impossible.

    Now, let’s have some fun and imagine St.Daryll getting hot and bothered when we mention “guy on guy gluteus maximus luv”


  115. Ginko Says:

    leftwingpsycho

    As usual, you can not defend your indefensible position so you start up your nonsensical communist diatribe.
    You don’t have a clue judging by what you type here. We have more money, more brains and out number you 3 to one. If you hadn’t cheated and rigged the election we never would have this clown in office. Incredible wrongs done to our country and the Constitution have occured on the Rethugs watch that can be placed squarely on the neocon locksteppers heads but we will right the wrongs, your reps. will GO TO JAIL where they belong and we will work to correct all the horrible wrongs you and your kind have wrought on this great country.


  116. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    There we have it. A grand total of THREE commandments enshrined in the laws of our nation. Not such a good record, is it? Mybe that’s what’s got Daryll’s knickers in a twist.

    Comment by KRank — May 29, 2007 @ 1:26 pm

    knock, knock!!!

    1) You are being a simpleton, the 10 Commandments mean a lot more than what you simply put there.

    2) Christianity, and the Bible are a lot more than just the 10 Commandments.

    3) Nice of you to show how utterly ignorant you are when it comes to religion and our laws.

    thanks for showing everyone what an utter ignoramus you are.


  117. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    So according to these commandments, these rules upon which you base all of your actions, and which you follow in order to cakewalk into heaven when you’re dead, rape is OK.

    Comment by Newt Gringo — May 29, 2007 @ 1:24 pm

    once again, a small clue for you….

    one of these commandments does ban rape.

    another ignorant left winger that is trying to speak about he obviously doesn’t have a clue about.

    how truly sad.


  118. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    leftwingpsycho

    As usual, you can not defend your indefensible position so you start up your nonsensical communist diatribe.
    You don’t have a clue judging by what you type here. We have more money, more brains and out number you 3 to one. If you hadn’t cheated and rigged the election we never would have this clown in office. Incredible wrongs done to our country and the Constitution have occured on the Rethugs watch that can be placed squarely on the neocon locksteppers heads but we will right the wrongs, your reps. will GO TO JAIL where they belong and we will work to correct all the horrible wrongs you and your kind have wrought on this great country.

    Comment by Ginko — May 29, 2007 @ 1:29 pm

    you have more money? so you are trying to buy the election, eh?

    child, child….please my pimple face fool. If you truly think you outnumber us 3 to 1, you are but a sad, demented, wishfull thinking fool.


  119. Zooey Says:

    So, Zooey can’t defend her stupid stances and now claims that I am someone she hates or something.

    How typical of the left wingers. No matter the left wing moonbat site one posts in, you all sound and look the same. How sad for you all.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    Juan was talking to me — not you.

    As for the rest of the vile crap that you emmanate — go back and read all that shit and you’ll see who’s the hateful one around here.

    It’s YOU. Your god knows what’s in your heart, and YOU are doomed.

    Nothing and no one here says you have to like or agree with we moonbats — slide back down into your sulfurous hole.


  120. Newt Gringo Says:

    one of these commandments does ban rape.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats

    The number, please?


  121. KRank Says:

    You are being a simpleton…Nice of you to show how utterly ignorant you are when it comes to religion and our laws.

    thanks for showing everyone what an utter ignoramus you are.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats — May 29, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    “… and they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love…”

    Thanks for showing us the real you.


  122. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    So according to these commandments, these rules upon which you base all of your actions, and which you follow in order to cakewalk into heaven when you’re dead, rape is OK.

    Comment by Newt Gringo — May 29, 2007 @ 1:24 pm

    furtthemore, my simpleton, if you bothered to read the Acts of the Apostles, the letters and teaching of St. Paul, etc, etc, you will find in quite a few places were rape is condenmed.

    The fact though is that you are not interested in the truth, you just want a chance to spit at Christianity.

    you are too ignorant about this subject to have an intelligent conversation with you.


  123. shane Says:

    wow, the level of stupidity coming from the left wing moonbats.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats — May 29, 2007 @ 12:51 pm

    Patrick1, you are an idiot under any name.


  124. Zooey Says:

    There we have it. A grand total of THREE commandments enshrined in the laws of our nation. Not such a good record, is it? Mybe that’s what’s got Daryll’s knickers in a twist.
    Comment by KRank

    Well done, KRank.


  125. Crump's Brother Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats,

    leviticus 24

    11 And the Israelitish woman’s son blasphemed the name of the Lord, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother’s name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:)

    12 And they put him in ward, that the mind of the LORD might be shewed them.

    13 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

    14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.

    Satisfied? You should read all of Leviticus and Dueteronomy. THey are chock full of this kind of crap.


  126. Barbarian Says:

    My comrades,

    how does one get rid of a condescending idiot like Leftwingersaremoonbats who believes that he or she (most likely a he) is right and always right, when he or she is utterly wrong, especially on a message board when that person believes that their comments reign supreme!!!!

    IGGGGNORE HIM (OR HER!)

    dogs can only bark for so long.


  127. shane Says:

    shit, thinkprogress.org believes that this joke of a webiste and the pathetic left wing moonbats that post on here matter. Little do they know that their opinion really doesn’t matter.

    Comment by Leftwingersaremoonbats — May 29, 2007 @ 12:55 pm

    Then explain your presence here Peadick-1.


  128. Wayne Says:

    Daryll’s been sniffing God.

    Comment by Zooey

    And Leftwingersaremoonbats is taking hallucinogens……


  129. Zooey Says:

    Shane,

    Isn’t it interesting how trolls like Leftwingersaremoonbats (valiantthehater) call US names like “simpleton,” “child,” “ignorant,” etc, but have no use for puntuation, spelling, grammar, and proper use of words?


  130. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    It’s YOU. Your god knows what’s in your heart, and YOU are doomed.

    Nothing and no one here says you have to like or agree with we moonbats — slide back down into your sulfurous hole.

    Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 1:34 pm

    wait, I thought you said earlier that no one can judge? so now you are judging me and telling me I am doomed?

    nice to know and see that your rules only apply to those that you speak against, but not to you.

    so no one can judge you, but you can judge anyone and everyeone you feel like, right?

    typical left wing hypocrite.


  131. DRxJ Says:

    “… and they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love…”
    Thanks for showing us the real you.
    Comment by KRank — May 29, 2007 @ 1:35 pm


  132. Ginko Says:

    leftwingbraiddead

    You WISH you were in the majority, you WISH the neocon’s were 3 times as large as they are but, boo hoo they aren’t. You are out on your keester. HA. HA. Now we will take back the Presidency from the thieves that stole it by stealing votes. No way can you win legitimately which is why that scumbag Karl Rove had to cook up his election fraud scheme, you can’t win so you cheat. Typical neocons.
    You are just a bitter old creep who can’t think for yourself so you follow like the sheep that you are. One by one we are busting you criminals and throwing you in JAIL. Nice try trying to stack the Justice dept. that was brilliant criminality only you are too stupid to use competent people, truly competent people want nothing to do with you lying, cheating thieves. Just look at the list of Rethigs under indictment or soon to be! Gee, nice leaders ya got there.
    Justice and Truth will prevail in the end, we will ferret you out of the govt. and put protections in place so it never happens again. Stop reading your fake statistics and wake up and smell the the stench of your leaders being locked up. Scooter is only the beginning. One by one starting at the bottom and working up we will nail your butts and put you all in jail. Neocons are history.


  133. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats,

    leviticus 24

    11 And the Israelitish woman’s son blasphemed the name of the Lord, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother’s name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:)

    12 And they put him in ward, that the mind of the LORD might be shewed them.

    13 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

    14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.

    Satisfied? You should read all of Leviticus and Dueteronomy. THey are chock full of this kind of crap.

    Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 29, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

    this is NOT mouthing off….not to mention that this is from the Old Testament.

    Find a similiar situtation in the New Testament. I won’t hold my breath.


  134. Zooey Says:

    Daryll’s been sniffing God.
    Comment by Zooey

    And Leftwingersaremoonbats is taking hallucinogens……
    Comment by Wayne

    It’s a baaaad trip, man!


  135. RUCerious Says:

    We do not want to hear hypocrites who believe in supporting homosexuality and breaking laws.

    Comment by Daryll

    he’s right, we don’t want no stinkin Ted Haggard preachin at us!


  136. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Shane, Zooey,

    so which one am I. Shane seems to think I am this person Patrick1 and Zooey seems to think I am valienthater, which one my left wing moonbats?


  137. Zooey Says:

    IGGGGNORE HIM (OR HER!)
    dogs can only bark for so long.
    Comment by Barbarian

    Ok, I’m back on the wagon.

    Ignoring…..


  138. DRxJ Says:

    sorry in regards to post #130.
    I, for some reason, am being heavily filtered today by TP.
    Not sure why.
    Maybe if I mention man love butt sex, it will not only be unaffected by the TP police, but will also get daryll hot and bothered (and thus he will be unable to type with just one hand) See, it’s a win-win!!


  139. Crump's Brother Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats,

    I don’t have to find you one. You are the one who is pimping for Christianity. I’m the one saying that everyone picks and chooses their bible versus as they see fit. And you just did it. You wanted to applaud the Ten Commandments, but that’s old testament as well right? So can we throw those out along with the verse from leviticus?

    By what barometer does one get to decide where God got it wrong? Are you the one who gets to tell the rest of us the proper versus to follow and which one’s we should not?


  140. Oversight is a Bitch. Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats continues to state that “one of the commandments” bans rape. Yet, he can’t tell us which one. Perhaps conservatives should be “strict constructionists” on the meaning of the ten commandments.

    I’m having a great time watich Leftwingersaremoonbats squirm !!


  141. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats,

    I don’t have to find you one. You are the one who is pimping for Christianity. I’m the one saying that everyone picks and chooses their bible versus as they see fit. And you just did it. You wanted to applaud the Ten Commandments, but that’s old testament as well right? So can we throw those out along with the verse from leviticus?

    By what barometer does one get to decide where God got it wrong? Are you the one who gets to tell the rest of us the proper versus to follow and which one’s we should not?

    Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 29, 2007 @ 1:45 pm

    Crump, this post shows your complete and utter ignorance about the Bible and Christianity.

    If you new the Bible and the word of Jesus you would know that there are certain places in the Gospel where Jesus says what part of the Old Testament to follow.

    Stop being such a simpleton when it comes to Christianity.


  142. Leftwingersaremoonbats Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats continues to state that “one of the commandments” bans rape. Yet, he can’t tell us which one. Perhaps conservatives should be “strict constructionists” on the meaning of the ten commandments.

    I’m having a great time watich Leftwingersaremoonbats squirm !!

    Comment by Oversight is a Bitch. — May 29, 2007 @ 1:46 pm

    Why would I bother wasting my time and teaching the ignorant masses like you?

    I know which one of the Ten commandes says that rape is wrong. If you want to find out, go research it and you will be shocked to find out how wrong you and your buddy are.

    In the mean time, Bitch, keep on posting for my amusement.

    It is fun to read the posts of ignorant left wingers like yourself.


  143. Crump's Brother Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats,

    And Jews see it differently, and Muslims see it differently.

    Where in the bible does jesus one can pick and choose?


  144. KRank Says:

    Leftwingersaremoonbats continues to state that “one of the commandments” bans rape. Yet, he can’t tell us which one. Perhaps conservatives should be “strict constructionists” on the meaning of the ten commandments.

    I’m having a great time watich Leftwingersaremoonbats squirm !!

    Comment by Oversight is a Bitch. — May 29, 2007 @ 1:46 pm

    Yep, and he/she also claimed that I was “being a simpleton” and “the 10 Commandments mean a lot more than what you simply put there.” But never bothered to expound on that statement. Didn’t bother to actually point out where my errors were. Imagine that. States a general opinion (and an insulting one to boot), but offers no facts to back it up.

    Familiar page from the wingnut playbook. It’s not about the facts, it’s about the noise.