Firefighters target Giuliani’s 9/11 record.
By on May 29th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Firefighters target Giuliani’s 9/11 record.
Starting in January, New York City firefighters and family members of September 11th victims will be following former mayor Rudy Giuliani around nationally, challenging media claims that he “owns” the 9/11 attacks. “If somebody can tell me what he did on 9/11 that was so good, I’d love to hear it,” says Jim Riches, a deputy chief with the fire department whose son was killed in the World Trade Center attacks. “All he did was give information on the TV. He did nothing. He stood there with a TV reporter and told everyone what was going on. And he got it from everybody else down at the site.”
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exactly… he just happened to be there… whereas, Bush didn’t even provide that after Katrina…
May 29th, 2007 at 12:11 pmStraight from the REAL 9/11 heros’ mouths! Excellent.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:11 pmOuch!
Heh. Nice work, firefighters.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:11 pmWanna bet trolls come up with a way to keep on their faith on their party regardless of direct accusations of people who actually were there?
May 29th, 2007 at 12:15 pmThis clown deserves to dogged. He’s a war criminal. How did he know the buildings were going to come down?
May 29th, 2007 at 12:16 pmThe Onion’s piece on Rudy running for President of 9/11 is priceless. Catch it.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:17 pmThe Republicans may have to nominate Rudy McRomney.
about time more of this truth coming out. The firefighters are the real heros, but yet, Rudy has spent the last 5+ years bragging about how HE is so great, so heroic, and such a perfect leader.
what a sham.
Some interesting reading on this:
May 29th, 2007 at 12:18 pm“Giuliani vs. the Firefighters”
http://www.populistamerica.com/giuliani_vs_the_firefighters
This is a cartoon I did recently about Giuliani’s “ownership” of 9/11. Check it out.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:18 pmGuiliani sold those people out.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:18 pm“If somebody can tell me what he did on 9/11 that was so good, I’d love to hear it,â€
He was on TV, that’s all that matters. That’s not good enough?
May 29th, 2007 at 12:19 pm#8 – Good one, Todd.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:23 pmPLEASE!!!!! Let Guiliani be the GOP nominee. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:25 pmRudy knows a lot more about what actually happened on 9/11 than he’s letting on. The more he runs for president of 9/11, the more questions he’s going to flub, and the truth’ll be that much closer to daylight.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:28 pmOf course, there’s plenty of other evidence about Rudy that can torpedo his campaign, if not send him to jail with his thug Bernie Kerik. Even his Yankees World Series rings are indictable. If Rudy weren’s such a megalomaniac, he would’ve thought twice about stepping into the spotlight again while carrying so much baggage.
To be fair to Rudi, that’s about all he could do, and it was a damn sight more defendable than Bush’s Pet Goat paralysis and disappearing antics on 9/11, and cake-eating after Katrina.
That said, running a whole campaign on being the hero of 9/11 is horsesh*t, and if he is taken down on his signature theme, he’s got nothing else to sell to the wingnut base. Cos everything else Rudi stands for makes baby jesus cry.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:29 pmFound the link. Excellent!!! Thanks, Badmoonman…
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/giuliani_to_run_for_president_of_9
May 29th, 2007 at 12:32 pmI am not a fan of Rudy, but he did provide leadership and hope to people after the attacks. Bush failed in that regard.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:32 pmRG was such a good leader, he ignored recommendations to move NY’s emergency operations center from the WTC after the 1993 bombing, so that he had nice pile of rubble from which to stage photo-ops after 9/11.
There’s a forward thinker.
Very bush-like.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:33 pmRudy should be required to dress in drag wherever he goes, because Americans need to see him as the freak that he is in reality. He likes to wear women’s undies and bras, so that says it all > lol.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:35 pmIf Trudi Giuliani owns 9-11, then he owns the 9-11 air pollution scandal too.
9-11 first responders are DYING because of Giuliani. Some of them can’t get any medical help and had to go to Cuba with Michael Moore.
BTW, Moore says Chimpy’s thugs are now going after those 9-11 heroes for going to Cuba.
Repukes are scumbags.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:40 pmThere’s a forward thinker.
Very bush-like.
and don’t forget bernie kerik.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:44 pm“He was on TV, that’s all that matters. That’s not good enough?
Comment by Patrick1″
how can you argue with this post when its author is an expert on “not good enough”?
May 29th, 2007 at 12:44 pmPatrick the Troll has the hots for Trudi Giuliani.
I guess Patrick is out of the closet now.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:45 pmTrudi!! You got a lot of esplainin’ to do!!
May 29th, 2007 at 12:47 pmhttp://www.theonion.com/ content/ news/ giuliani_to_run_for_president_of_9 – -
May 29th, 2007 at 12:47 pmLove that 9/11 logo, eh?
So, if Rudy gets the repbukes nomination, will the “Right Wing-Nuts” attack the real hero’s of 9/11??
May 29th, 2007 at 12:47 pmMOSCOW – Russia on Tuesday test-launched a new intercontinental ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple independent warheads, and a top government official said it could penetrate any defense system, a news agency reported.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:54 pmSo if Trudi Giuliani gets the nomination, will the Repukes stop bashing gays and transvestites??
The Repukes are all closet cases anyway. They’re all getting a hardon looking at pictures of Trudi in a dress.
So, Trudi is a shoo-in at the GOP convention in 08.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:57 pmRussia on Tuesday test-launched a new intercontinental ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple independent warheads, and a top government official said it could penetrate any defense system, a news agency reported.
Comment by Tobey Tall
Good…more fear, more wars.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:57 pmThe Russians make better ICBMS than we do.
They put theirs on trains, not in silos like we do.
Theirs are harder to hit, so there’s no way we can knock them all out.
May 29th, 2007 at 12:57 pmwill the “Right Wing-Nuts†attack the real hero’s of 9/11??
yea… let’s see them “swiftboat” the firefighters…
that onion piece was truly rich! especially the “vision for our future” ad…
May 29th, 2007 at 12:58 pmHe’s right, but that’s all the President does too. In a crisis situation he gets the people what they need, gets the information out in a clear manner, then gets everyone else out of the way. No, he didn’t pick up a shovel. He didn’t carry a gurney. He didn’t review security tape. He just gave us the impression that the situation was more or less under control. He gave a face to our response when someone else’s face was not to be seen (White House… where were you…?)
May 29th, 2007 at 1:02 pmRudy should be required to dress in drag wherever he goes, because Americans need to see him as the freak that he is in reality. He likes to wear women’s undies and bras, so that says it all > lol.
Comment by Jay Randal
Wouldn’t it be better if he waited until he won the Republican nomination to start playing dress-up?
May 29th, 2007 at 1:04 pmAP is reporting Giuliani’s ex-campaign manager is quoting Rudy as “feeling uncomfortable around gays”.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:07 pmMichael Moore says Chimpy’s INS thugs are going after the 9-11 heroes who went with him to Cuba seeking medical care.
They were poisoned by toxic air after 9-11 because Chimpy’s goons hid the data about toxins in the air and said the air was safe.
Trudi Giuliani was also involved in the 9-11 toxins coverup.
Asbestos, ground up concrete, toxins from burned plastic and other toxins were all over lower Manhattan.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:07 pmIf Trudi wins the GOP nod, the Dems or PACs should start running commercials with Trudi in drag…in Bible Belt red states.
The Religious Reich Wingnuts will all stay home and the Repukes will lose big.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:09 pmAP is reporting Giuliani’s ex-campaign manager is quoting Rudy as “feeling uncomfortable around gaysâ€.
Maybe Trudi is afraid of getting cornholed while he’s out prancing around in a dress.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:10 pmDid anyone forget to ask that Rudy did nothing to help those thousands of responders when they fell dreadfuly ill after the clean-up at Ground Zero? Rudy refused to assist in providing medical and financial aid for those who fell ill. Rudy Giuliani is a piece of shit as he is a piece of work.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:12 pmMy bad. That was Edwards former campaign manager:
In his new memoir, “No Excuses: Concessions of a Serial Campaigner,” Shrum recalls asking Edwards at the outset of that campaign, “What is your position, Mr. Edwards, on gay rights?”
“I’m not comfortable around those people,” Edwards replied, according to Shrum.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:12 pmwill the “Right Wing-Nuts†attack the real hero’s of 9/11??
yea… let’s see them “swiftboat†the firefighters…
that onion piece was truly rich! especially the “vision for our future†ad…
Comment by katy
Kind of looks like to me Rudi is being the one “swiftboated”, is thinkprogress going to look for the money behind these claims like was done on the Swift Boats claims?
May 29th, 2007 at 1:14 pmThe firefighters are still mad because Rudy tried to keep them from ripping off the pension funds by providing plum overtime jobs to those about to retire at their last year’s income.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:17 pmYeah, when is thinkprogress going to look for the Big Money behind The Onion?
Smarter trolls, please.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:22 pmSo, if Rudy gets the repbukes nomination, will the “Right Wing-Nuts†attack the real hero’s of 9/11??
Comment by marcus robinson — May 29, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
The firefighters are still mad because Rudy tried to keep them from ripping off the pension funds by providing plum overtime jobs to those about to retire at their last year’s income.
Comment by Frank H — May 29, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Wow, that took a whole 30 minutes.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:23 pmYeah, when is thinkprogress going to look for the Big Money behind The Onion?
Smarter trolls, please.
Comment by joe
Are you that dumb? I wasn’t referring to the onion. I am referring to the attacks by firefighters, much like the attacks against Kerry. If Rudi is nominated you will likely see commercials from these guys and then the financing will be known. Smells like “swiftboating” against Rudi.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:26 pmGo ahead and deny the truth. I was there watching the whole thing. The union contracts stated that firefighters get to retire based on their last year’s pay. Most of those 300 firefighters who were on duty were in their last year and getting full overtime pay. But, you think that’s not real because your hatred make you blind.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:28 pmYeah, The Rudy… a walking assemblage of evil talking points. Wanted to push a guy with Mob connections direct into the DHS. It all fits.
“Kämpfer der ersten Stunde… beim Bierhallenputsch auch dabeigewesen”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/25/olbermanns-special-comment-on-giulianis-fearmongering-how-dare-you-sir/
May 29th, 2007 at 1:30 pm“Smells like “swiftboating†against Rudi.”
if the firefighters aren’t lying, then it’s not ’swiftboating.’ meanwhile, the freepers have purged all rudy supporters from their comments. tough week for the man with the ferret phobia.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pm“But, you think that’s not real because your hatred make you blind.”
did you steal that from ’star wars’?
May 29th, 2007 at 1:36 pmPatrick the Troll has the hots for Trudi Giuliani.
I guess Patrick is out of the closet now.
Comment by Tom3
Patty1 has the hots for any male republican that wears dresses.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:46 pmif the firefighters aren’t lying, then it’s not ’swiftboating.’ meanwhile, the freepers have purged all rudy supporters from their comments. tough week for the man with the ferret phobia.
Comment by pgw
You are correct they haven’t been found to be lying yet.
May 29th, 2007 at 1:49 pmThats exactly what a Republican does. They take credit for everyone elses work. Rudy, is a cross dressing lisper. Nothing more.
May 29th, 2007 at 2:15 pmtimmy: “Are you that dumb? I wasn’t referring to the onion. I am referring to the attacks by firefighters, much like the attacks against Kerry. If Rudi is nominated you will likely see commercials from these guys and then the financing will be known. Smells like “swiftboating†against Rudi.”
Timmy, fair is fair. Will Catholic clerics tell their flocks that they cannot receive communion if they vote for Rudy? That’s what they did to Kerry, because he’s pro-choice. So is Rudy. Will the conservative Romans come out in front of cameras in their bright red dresses and hats and issue the same proclamation about Rudy? Fair is fair.
May 29th, 2007 at 2:42 pmNo, timmy. “Running commercials against Rudy” isn’t “swiftboating.”
Making baseless accusations that his war record has been faked is “swiftboating.”
Perhaps if you use words correctly, you can avoid confusion.
May 29th, 2007 at 3:16 pmtimmy,
I’m going to go out on a limb here. If the International Association of Firefighters, or one of their locals, runs ads against Guiliani, I’m going to guess that the “big money” behind them would come from, er, uh, you know, the International Association of Firefighters, or one of their locals.
Quick, TP, get your very best people on this!
May 29th, 2007 at 3:24 pmTimmy, fair is fair. Will Catholic clerics tell their flocks that they cannot receive communion if they vote for Rudy? That’s what they did to Kerry, because he’s pro-choice. So is Rudy. Will the conservative Romans come out in front of cameras in their bright red dresses and hats and issue the same proclamation about Rudy? Fair is fair.
Comment by Bluedog49
We are talking about “swiftboating” not churches views on abortion? Please try and stay on topic with what was said.
May 29th, 2007 at 3:40 pmNo, timmy. “Running commercials against Rudy†isn’t “swiftboating.â€
Making baseless accusations that his war record has been faked is “swiftboating.â€
Perhaps if you use words correctly, you can avoid confusion.
Comment by joe
Baseless accusations against what Rudy to discredit him did is the same thing.
May 29th, 2007 at 3:41 pmI’m going to go out on a limb here. If the International Association of Firefighters, or one of their locals, runs ads against Guiliani, I’m going to guess that the “big money†behind them would come from, er, uh, you know, the International Association of Firefighters, or one of their locals.
Quick, TP, get your very best people on this!
Comment by joe
You are right, there are no groups with money on the left that would want to discredit a republican nominee.
May 29th, 2007 at 3:42 pmIf you actually think, it would be progress.
http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2007/05/giuliani-ambushed-by-truther.html
May 29th, 2007 at 3:47 pmSure there are, Timmy. The International Association of Firefighters, for example, would LOVE to discredit this particular Republican.
That tends to happen when you cost their members their lives, and take credit for their heroism.
May 29th, 2007 at 3:49 pmIf Rudy Giuliani had advance warning of the September 11th attacks, then surely he is partly responsible for the deaths of those firefighters.
What ahppened to his bunker?
May 29th, 2007 at 3:52 pmAmazing how the trolls wont jump in here and attack the Firefighters.
May 29th, 2007 at 4:04 pmOK, I think we’ve got the picture here:
Liberals on TP: support the Firefighters.
Conservative Trolls on TP: don’t support the Firefighters unless they agree with Guliani.
Is anyone surprised? I have a friend who is a retired firechief and he says decisions made by the Guiliani administration cost the lives of at least 200 firemen.
May 29th, 2007 at 4:57 pmAnd, I have to point out again that Catholic Cardinals and Bishops told American catholics in 2004 that they would be denied communion if they voted for John Kerry because of Kerry’s pro-choice position. It is now up to catholics to make sure your sectarian leaders act in a consistent fashion. Those who made the proclamation regarding Kerry, need to make the same one regarding Guiliani. After all, your catholic leaders are honest, well-meaning men, right?
May 29th, 2007 at 5:00 pmCrump, we’ve got a sick little troll named “Timmy” who calls what the firefighters are doing “swiftboating.” Is that enough of an insult for you?
May 29th, 2007 at 5:02 pmI believe the firefighters have had complaints about Giuliani since long before he announced his plans to run.
May 29th, 2007 at 5:10 pmI hope he is not the GOP Canidate. God help us if another uninformed person is elected.
May 29th, 2007 at 5:55 pmI live in the u.k. and the first thing giuliani said on tv over here was “We are with Israel”.
May 29th, 2007 at 6:00 pmThis was before the identity of the hijackers was known.
I hope Rudy IS the candidate. Conservative religious leaders will either have to split off and start their own party or be outed as politically expedient hucksters taking advantage of their flocks. If you’re going to sit there and tell us you can’t vote for a Dem because of abortion, then you’re going to have to explain your support for Rudy. If conservative Catholic cardinals and bishops don’t come out against Rudy, they’ll be exposed as hacks.
May 29th, 2007 at 6:02 pmRespect for the firemen, not for Bush, Giuliani or any other war profiter.
May 29th, 2007 at 6:19 pmGiuliani was warned on 9/11 that the towers were gonna collapse, as he admitted to Peter Jennings on ABC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNmf76GUCw
May 29th, 2007 at 8:49 pmYesterday he denied saying that very statement to as reported by WNBC, plus he’s claiming there was an implosion:
http://video.wnbc.com/player/?id=112179
(I posted this on a previous thread, back on 4/25.)
Gulliani did what any other mayor of a U.S. city would have done under the same circumstances. He gathered and conveyed information.
All of the institutions necessary to get NYC back on its feet after the attacks were more than happy to assist him with key decisions in any way possible. As they would have done for any mayor in his situation.
What would have been impressive is if he had actually said “WTF???!!!!†when Whitman said the air at Ground Zero was “fine.â€
———————————
However, Giuliani maintained Sunday that he was honest and open about air quality issues.
“I put out all the reports that existed,†Giuliani said. “Of course the reports that I put out were the same thing that Christie Whitman was saying publicly.â€
One report the city apparently didn’t put out was an explosive memo from the EPA to the city Health Department dated Oct. 5, 2001. It didn’t mince words, stating of ground zero: “this site…poses threats to workers related to potential exposure to hazardous substances.â€
Three weeks after the EPA memo, Giuliani’s environmental commissioner, Joel Miele, was still saying the air was safe.
“For the residents and people who are working in the open area that has been created downtown there is no realistic danger to the health,†Miele said.
Responding to Giuliani’s comments, EPA regional commissioner Jane Kenny said her agency told the Giuliani Administration every day at daily briefings the air at ground zero was bad.
———————————–
He was down there almost every day and he simply “passed along†Whitman’s conclusions.
Great.
Great leadership.
May 29th, 2007 at 9:09 pmUm, why are these heroes so un-American?
May 29th, 2007 at 9:54 pmI never could figure out what all of the Rudy Guliani hullabaloo was about for this guy. Are people really so stupid that they would vote for a guy who has absolutely no qualifications, and his only major accomplishment was: that he was mayor of a city that was bombed by terrorists! “Good grief” The news stations have stated repeatedly that this guy has absolutely nothing going for him other than 911, (and yet they also say that he has the popularity of a rockstar as far as republicans are concerned). Would they actually really vote for this guy? But hey if they would vote for George Bush… “Give em hell firefighters”. Somebody has to set these Rudy followers straight. “Jeesh” Most people didn’t even know who this guy was before 911, and he has probably made quite a fortune because of that terrible tragedy.
May 29th, 2007 at 10:08 pmLet’s see Rudy cleans up NY making it livable; puts the bad guys in jail where they deserve to be; make the FF unions look bad by making them take responsiblity for decisions they made about radios et al and the people on this site say he is the loser? First more FF radios on 9/11 worked than didn’t. Second the FF didn’t leave the buildings because they were rescuing people (civlians and fellow injured rescue workers), not because they didn’t get the order. Third Rudy is considered a leader because he acted like on on 9/11 and the days after. Review his actions vs the idiot in New Orleans after the natural disaster, Katrina (a disaster one that came with ample warning…9/11 did not). Just because he didn’t put out fires or pull others from the ruble doesn’t mean he wasn’t a leader.
The FF died on 9/11 because they were men of courage who went into buring buildings to save lives. They did just that. 9/11 was caused by radical Islamic terrorists bent on destroying. Please people, get a grip and start dealing in the facts.
My brother died that day. HIS RADIO WORKED. HE ORDERED HIS MEN OUT BY RADIO. THEY LIVED. My brothers death isn’t due to Rudy Guiliani, it’s due to 19 Islamic terrorists.
May 30th, 2007 at 8:29 pmFinally someone said what I’ve been saying ever since 9/11. Neither Bush or Guliani did anything extrordinary after the attacks of 9/11, they just happened to be the President and the Mayor and the Republican controlled corporate media trumpted them up to be heroes. They are both phonies.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:00 amHow Bush, the Far Right, and Big Business Are Betraying Americans for Power and Profit
Let’s take a very close, very honest look at what’s been going on in this country, the United States of America, and let’s see what we can come up with. A relatively recent federal criminal investigation of Kerik waves a HUGE RED FLAG about the unexplainable decisions made by President Bush, Vice President Cheney, the Republican front-runner to replace him (Giuliani) and Attorney General Gonzales. Thinking back on how Giuliani put forward a flawed candidate for high office, how Bush rushed the usual process in his eagerness to install a political ally and how Gonzales, as White House counsel, failed to stop the nomination despite the many warning signs of which Julie Meyers was aware well in advance. Obviously, then, Gonzales rushed in to take the vetting process into his own hands with the objective of making sure the nomination was not stopped and to prevent the public outrage that was coming at the Bush administration should the public’s suspicion prove true that our own President put a pathetic, uneducated criminal in the most powerful position of the president’s cabinet all just to serve his sinister purpose of gaining a political ally to do his dirty work from the position that would be easiest.
I don’t know if anybody’s noticed, but Bush’s entire presidential foundation rests on what he has our troops doing in Iraq with this ridiculous “War on Terror.†Come on, what better position to promote and validate that “War on Terror†than HOMELAND SECURITY?!?!? Wars make money, that’s been true throughout the history of this country – we all learn about it in grade school and high school – a wartime economy is a flourishing one. Lately, one big question buzzing amongst the people has been, well, then what the hell happened here? Haha. This war is making plenty of money. For Bush and the Bush administration – Cheney, Giuliani, Kerik, Gonzales… come on, these guys are doing business, baby! They’re making big money! They’re rolling in the $$$$$. It’s an enterprise. A Criminal Enterprise. What are the American people doing in the mean time? Getting played. What are the American troops doing “over thereâ€? Dying. For what noble cause did our good old President Bush send these young men and women to Iraq? To put money in his pocket of course. That’s right, moms and dads, brothers and sisters of those brave young men and women who were sent to Iraq based on a lie – it’s your sons and daughters lives, your brother’s and sister’s lives that are being traded off to fatten up the wallets of some very crafty, very sinister criminals who wear suits and strut around Capitol Hill committing crimes and debasing everything that makes the United States of America a wonderful and honorable country – a country “for the People, by the People.†Oh but don’t worry, Bush isn’t a rude guy – he’s sharing the wealth with his buddies in the Bush administration who are members of a criminal political enterprise built up by and in the Republican party. Now that some of the bad apples are finally falling off the tree, the truth is seeping out around the edges of the lies that cloaked the Bush administration – a strong lesson can be learned here, – when you’re too arrogant, your criminal activity inevitably gets messy. Apparently, a person who reaches this level of arrogance wouldn’t recognize his cue to “quit while you’re ahead†even if it smacked him between the eyebrows. People are resigning left and right. What does Bush do? Well, it’s his typical move when things get rocky and his speed + secrecy formula doesn’t work. It’s just what he did with having Gonzales personally take charge of the vetting process when information about Kerik’s not-so-clean background leaked out in the press at the time of the Homeland Security Nomination. Bush turns to the aid of one of his cronies, his political allies, his partners in crime, whatever you want to call them, and has them validate his actions. This time, when everyone is questioning the war in Iraq harder than ever, and some Democrats out there on Capitol Hill are finally trying to put their foot down and refuse giving Bush whatever the hell he wants, specifically more funding for his “War on Terrorism.†What does Bush do in response? He announces that he will veto any funding that doesn’t last him more than the next few months, and – out of nowhere – appoints “War Czars.†What the hell is a War Czar? I love how Bush just makes up all these special little positions that oh-so-conveniently fit perfectly into a solution to get him out of a shameful political pickle. Well, I would be willing to bet a pretty penny that these War Czars are going to conveniently agree with, substantiate and validate Bush’s firm stand on his decision to stay in Iraq longer. I don’t know, I could be wrong, but it just seems to fit the pattern.
The opportunity presents itself now to hold Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, Kerik, Tenet, Wolfowitz, Greenspan, Gonzales, and plenty more involved responsible for the mess they have made of this country both at home and in foreign affairs. America must seize the opportunity and demand the whole truth about the scandals these men have been pulling off on us behind our backs. Don’t forget, these men are scrambling to make sure America does not get the whole truth – that’s the only way they can save themselves from suffering the consequences of their actions – crimes committed behind closed doors.
My real serious question is, Will America merely accept the façade Bush fabricates for us yet again, or will we wise up this time? It seems we have been more and more. And I have to say, I have been rooting for all of my fellow citizens here in America, because I have a lot of respect for this country and the people in it. We should be proud to be Americans. Don’t forget, the people who came to this country and made us the United States of America – our Forefathers – were people who came here emotionally beat up and battered, and they established what became the most powerful country in the world! The evolution of this country is very much infused with a Darwinistic survival of the fittest dynamic. There is something to be said for that. We Americans pioneered so much from the industrial revolution right up to the huge forum of business and culture in what has become one of the capitols of the world – our very own New York City. Trust me, people, it was New York City long before Rudolph Giuliani. He didn’t make it, he didn’t bring it the sense of community New Yorkers feel, and he certainly didn’t rescue it –He defiled it. A New Yorker has always been a New Yorker, long before Rudy Giuliani was even born. As a New Yorker myself, I know we are not the type to tolerate his lies. I don’t care how many glorified pictures we have of him waving and looking self-righteous in the midst of the debris that was the Twin Towers. The only thing Rudy Giuliani ever did for NYC was disgrace it and offend its people by fooling them for a few years.
Giuliani possesses what I like to call the allure of toxic leaders. Let’s face it, in most cases, we choose our bad leaders, they do not kidnap us. We choose them because they soothe our fears. Giuliani’s political career was plummeting downwards until one decisive day that turned everything around – 9/11. Ever since then, he has done a masterful job of manipulating the American people. He took up the role of America’s Mayor and suddenly became an expert on terrorism. First of all, I personally have gone to other countries and done counter terrorism work (counter terrorism is what I have been doing for over twenty years – I work in Intelligence for the CIA and DIA), and I can assure you that Rudy Giuliani can walk around Ground Zero in clouds of smoke all he wants, but that’s all the Rudy Giuliani the American public knows is – clouds of smoke. One thing that stands out in Giuliani’s political career is his recommendation of Bernard Kerik for Homeland Security. It’s not at all difficult to see that Kerik is at best “a flawed candidate†– he didn’t even graduate high school, he is the son of a prostitute and he grew up a street-smart criminal in Passaic County. We all know that Kerik is a criminal now though, because Kerik has already been arrested twice, indicted and is currently under federal investigation – and that’s only the tip of the ice-berg. As Washington Post notes, “After Kerik withdrew, Ray became the central witness in several investigations.†Ray refers to Larry Ray, – that’s me. I am the man responsible for a lot of what you have been seeing on the news lately including the exposure of Bush, Cheney and Gonzales. I had to start by exposing Bernie (Kerik) and continue from there. After I released the information I had about Kerik in Nov. ’04, an already vicious campaign Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, Kerik, Gonzales, and Chris Christie had going on against me to discredit and destroy me suddenly took a sharp turn into something brutal to get to me by torturing my children. For more of the truth and easy ways that you can help bring it out to the rest of our fellow Americans without even having to move from your computer, go to my site:
http://www.truthwins.info/vice-president-cheneytake-down-this-corruption/
When I think of Bush and his associates, one word comes to mind: PREMEDITATED.
You want to know where the crimes are? Just look at any Bush administration appointments and ask the question, “What is the utility to George Bush and Dick Cheney?†Next question, “What is the quid pro quo?â€
I would like to send my prayers out to all those who we remember on Memorial Day, including those whom we have recently lost in Iraq. God bless those brave souls, and God bless their families. God forgive those who have lied to get us into war with Iraq to begin with and who continue to lie to keep us there.
Faithfully,
May 31st, 2007 at 8:12 pmLarry Ray