Gore would have voted ‘no.’
By on May 29th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Gore would have voted ‘no.’
“Former Vice President Al Gore tells ABC News that if he were still in the United States Senate, he would have voted ‘no’ on a war funding bill without a timetable for U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq which passed both house of Congress last week and was signed into law by President Bush.” Good for him.
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gore’s working up to an announcement…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
May 29th, 2007 at 10:50 pmAl Gore is the biggest example of a “what if…” scenario himself.
May 29th, 2007 at 10:50 pmAl,
Shit or get off the pot already….
May 29th, 2007 at 10:53 pmAl Gore is a nobody like Walter Mondale, a 2nd rate Vice President and Senator who did nothing worthwhile in office, and will be remembered for his Global Warming fear campaign.
May 29th, 2007 at 10:55 pmAnd m12 is what and who.? Guess you resume is not available since you have one letter and 2 number’s for a handle…Ha! Get stuffed troll.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:00 pmAl Gore has been consistent in opposing the Iraq War. Most of the announced candidates can’t say that. He has also been consistent for 30 years in his voicing concern about global warming. His continued efforts are now paying off with overwhelming support for change from business, other nations and across our own political parties. The naysayers are quickly becoming irrelevant.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:05 pmWay to go out on limb there buddy.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:07 pm#4 – We don’t remember Walter Mondale because he was never suspected of, or charged with, corruption.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:09 pmWay to go out on limb there buddy.
Comment by beefeater
Mark your calendar, beaneater, because this won’t happen again:
I agree.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:12 pmOn Countdown Gore said practically the opposite, by attempting to justify and condone what Pelosi and the rest of the the Democrats did by voting to keep the funds going for the war.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:20 pmI agree.
Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
just goes to show ya, even 2 broken watches are right 4 times a day.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:25 pmAnd where were you, Mr. Gore, before the vote? Were you out front, yelling with the top of your voice to stop the war? Were you leading the cry to put impeachment back on the table?
WELL, WERE YOU???
Sorry, Mr. Gore, but unless you put your political butt on the line and stand up for peace, and doing what is right and necessary to restore America, you’ll get no support from me.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:25 pmMeanwhile, back at the cold war:
Russia says new ICBM can beat any system
By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer
14 minutes ago
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070530/ap_on_re_eu/russia_missile_test
May 29th, 2007 at 11:28 pmGore did speak out, and often. Do your research. It took me only 30 seconds to find these excerpts from a speech Gore gave on September 23, 2002 …
“Nevertheless, President Bush is telling us that the most urgent requirement of the moment – right now – is not to redouble our efforts against Al Qaeda, not to stabilize the nation of Afghanistan after driving his host government from power, but instead to shift our focus and concentrate on immediately launching a new war against Saddam Hussein. And he is proclaiming a new, uniquely American right to pre-emptively attack whomsoever he may deem represents a potential future threat.”
“Moreover, he is demanding in this high political season that Congress speedily affirm that he has the necessary authority to proceed immediately against Iraq and for that matter any other nation in the region, regardless of subsequent developments or circumstances. The timing of this sudden burst of urgency to take up this cause as America’s new top priority, displacing the war against Osama Bin Laden, was explained by the White House Chief of Staff in his now well known statement that ‘from an advertising point of view, you don’t launch a new product line until after labor day’.”
“By shifting from his early focus after September 11th on war against terrorism to war against Iraq, the President has manifestly disposed of the sympathy, good will and solidarity compiled by America and transformed it into a sense of deep misgiving and even hostility. In just one year, the President has somehow squandered the international outpouring of sympathy, goodwill and solidarity that followed the attacks of September 11th and converted it into anger and apprehension aimed much more at the United States than at the terrorist network – much as we manage to squander in one year’s time the largest budget surpluses in history and convert them into massive fiscal deficits. He has compounded this by asserting a new doctrine – of preemption.”
May 29th, 2007 at 11:37 pmComment by brewski — May 29, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
That was five years ago. How about while Congress was debating passing the Military Commissions Act? How about when Pelosi and Conyers took impeachment off the table? How about when Congress debated funding Bush’s surge?
Yes, I’m miffed at the non-stop side-show posturing.
Both the Reich-wing Republicans and the Democratic Party are supporting this illegal war. There’s too much Profit in it for them to walk away.
May 29th, 2007 at 11:45 pm“a 2nd rate Vice President and Senator who did nothing worthwhile in office, and will be remembered for his Global Warming fear campaign.
Comment by m12 — May 29, 2007″
But, but, what about inventing the internet? And wasn’t Love Story written about he and his wife?
May 29th, 2007 at 11:47 pmOoh mikey’s opened a new box of ‘talking points’? Oh wait, they are all the old ones – that’s the problem being a kindergartner, all the old jokes are new to them. Why does Al Gore strike fear into your heart, mikey?
May 29th, 2007 at 11:52 pmWhy does Al Gore strike fear into your heart, mikey?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Um….because everything strikes fear into mikey’s heart?
May 29th, 2007 at 11:54 pm“And where were you, Mr. Gore, before the vote? Were you out front, yelling with the top of your voice to stop the war? Were you leading the cry to put impeachment back on the table?
WELL, WERE YOU???
Sorry, Mr. Gore, but unless you put your political butt on the line and stand up for peace, and doing what is right and necessary to restore America, you’ll get no support from me.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — May 29, 2007 @ 11:25 pm”
Have to say his 2000 performance in conceding despite the rampant abuse of the minority vote in Florida (and brought to him in the Senate – see F9-11) speaks to Gore’s mercurial nature. You havae to lay unconditional NAFTA support at his feet too. Where were you Al?
May 29th, 2007 at 11:55 pm“Al Gore has been consistent in opposing the Iraq War.
Comment by brewski — May 29, 2007
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
May 29th, 2007 at 11:56 pm– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
“We don’t remember Walter Mondale because he was never suspected of, or charged with, corruption.
Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007″
By who? A child like you?
May 29th, 2007 at 11:57 pm“Why does Al Gore strike fear into your heart, mikey?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 29, 2007″
I think it’s me striking fear in yours?
May 29th, 2007 at 11:58 pm“Um….because everything strikes fear into mikey’s heart?
Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007″
Not a loser 6th grader like you! Why did it take kerry 5 years to get hid Honorable Discharge?
May 29th, 2007 at 11:59 pm“Have to say his 2000 performance in conceding despite the rampant abuse of the minority vote in Florida
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 29, 2007″
Abuse of minority vote? By who? Names please?
May 30th, 2007 at 12:01 amI think it’s me striking fear in yours?
Comment by michael — May 29, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
Grow up.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:03 amOh look, it’s michael. Maybe he’ll kick his own ass again tonight.
**yawn**
May 30th, 2007 at 12:06 amAbuse of minority vote? By who? Names please?
Comment by michael — May 30, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Here you go mikey, now please try to stay on topic or I’ll have nurse up your Ritalin.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,6903,409137,00.html
May 30th, 2007 at 12:09 am“Al Gore has been consistent in opposing the Iraq War.
Comment by brewski — May 29, 2007
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.â€
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.â€
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
Comment by michael — May 29, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
Oh look, mikey’s made another strawman again… how clever of him.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:11 amOh look, mikey’s made another strawman again… how clever of him.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Just don’t leave any matches lying around. The last time half of northern California burned….
May 30th, 2007 at 12:14 am“But, but, what about inventing the internet?”
Since he never claimed that, dear, I’m afraid that, as usual, you don’t have a point.
“And wasn’t Love Story written about he and his wife?”
Actually, dear heart, according to the author, the male protagonist was, in fact, based on Gore and his friend, Tommy Lee Jones. Since everything that Gore has said on this issue has been entirely truthful and accurate, you are striking out once again.
Got anything substantive to add?
May 30th, 2007 at 12:19 amGot anything substantive to add?
Comment by PaulB
Um….no. Not ever.
You must be new around here. :D
May 30th, 2007 at 12:22 amGot anything substantive to add?
Comment by PaulB — May 30, 2007 @ 12:19 am
mikey confuses Socratic method with asking stupid questions… Don’t hold your breath for any substance. If you have a five-year-old of your own, you could let him or her talk to mikey.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:26 amAll you have to do to know that the righties are skerrrrrrred of Al Gore is to look at this thread. They rip on him for not really going out on a limb (yeah, you beefy) but in reality he stated exactly what he would do if he were in Congress. You know, righties, you don’t HAVE to take roll call when you are not in the Senate anymore. Just ask Freddie Thompson. Your idol didn’t take a stand one way or the other. Be proud.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:40 amI can only conclude that mikey is completely fascinated with Greg Palast’s almost completely ignored reporting in the wake of Florida 2000 (not even F9-11 did it justice) , or his Mom has revoked his computer time…. do ask if any of the long words need a definition won’t you mikey? We can discuss the more advanced techniques of ‘caging’ alluded to by Monica ‘God talks to me too’ Goodling this past week when you’ve grasped the general concept of ‘voting while black’ voter suppression. Til tomorrow & that’s not Al Gore under your bed, mikey, it’s just a dust bunny, OK?
May 30th, 2007 at 12:43 am“I am deeply concerned that the policy we are presently following with respect to Iraq has the potential to seriously damage our ability to win the war against terrorism and to weaken our ability to lead the world in this new century.” – Al Gore
How can he express himself any clearer?
May 30th, 2007 at 12:46 amHow can he express himself any clearer?
Comment by brewski — May 30, 2007 @ 12:46 am
He can be a leader, put some spine into Congressional Democrats and insist on changing the course of history.
Instead, he’s sitting on the sidelines like a 3rd string quarterback, hoping he’ll get to play in the last 2 minutes of the game and be the hero.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:09 amGore maybe the last man in America riding on a White-Horse to save our nation from Bush/GOPer fascism.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:11 amJay, Gore/Edwards. Screw Obama, he is nothing but a DLC yes-man.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:18 amThank God that Gore is not in the Senate then.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:29 amDon’t respond to my posts, Buscemi.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:42 amAnyone read his latest book?
I have, and I think he is spot on with his points.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:52 amJPark > Gore could pair up with just about anybody, but NEVER Joe Lieberman again.
May 30th, 2007 at 2:02 amGore/Zell Miller? :)
May 30th, 2007 at 2:03 amLOL JPark > Zell Miller is another Lieberman, so not wise to pick him for a running mate.
May 30th, 2007 at 2:05 amOr either of the Nelsons, Landrieu, Feinstein, Baucus…there are too many DINOs.
May 30th, 2007 at 2:10 amBen Nelson of Nebraska I call melon-head and the Nelson of Florida is kind of odd and fem too.
May 30th, 2007 at 2:15 amLandrieu unfortunately is a blonde bimbo who does not have much of a brain and Feinstein is an opportunistic goofy lady whose husband makes money off the Iraq Fiascio War.
May 30th, 2007 at 2:18 amPoor Zooey, a member of the instant gratification pool. Can’t a person make his own decisions on his own timetable.. Wise up. All the current candidates will have self immolated before 2008. Gore is a strategist calling his own game.
May 30th, 2007 at 2:36 am“gore’s working up to an announcement…”
Yes.
If he clearly reflects 2006 voters’ intentions, he will stand out from the crowd of the currently elected Dems.
He would win the race.
May 30th, 2007 at 4:47 amAl is sounding more like a candidate every day. Can’t wait until his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech in October when he adds, “oh, by the way, I’m now officially a candidate to win the Presidency a second time.”
May 30th, 2007 at 5:43 amNo Republican candidate can possibly win in 2008. They shouldn’t even run anyone in 2008 (not that they have anyone!).
May 30th, 2007 at 6:47 amalgore proves once again why he failed to carry even his home state of tennessee. thanks for reminding us all algore!
May 30th, 2007 at 8:14 amAnd who are you guys gonna vote for? Clinton? Obama? More lite Repubs? Come on!
May 30th, 2007 at 9:12 amI know, we are all upset with our elected leaders right now, but he has the luxury of not being one of them. Let him be the smart leader he is. I agree with Gus Smith, the rest are hanging by their own rope. He is wise, in this climate, to do the opposite. And possibly give us some hope, ’cause Kucinich isn’t going to make it…..:-(
I love Al Gore dearly and think he would make a great president, but he still needs to learn how to talk to the public. I saw him last night on Keith Olbermann and I have to say that my eyes started glazing over. The man is so intelligent and everything he says is very relevant, but he needs to learn how to talk to the people rather than give a lecture in a lecture hall. If he does run again, I hope he gets someone to coach him in how to talk to the people. He does great when he’s talking about Global Warming, because that is his passion. He needs to bring that passion into other aspects of his thinking if he is going to run for president.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:14 am“algore proves once again why he failed to carry even his home state of tennessee. thanks for reminding us all algore!”
They troll, this is so yesterday. Can’t you come up with something new and original. Next you will be saying that Al Gore claimed to have invented the “internets”.
I do have to say that sometimes you trolls make me laugh with the stupidity that comes out of your mouths.
Please tell me, troll, how Al Gore could possibly lose. He won in 2000. Now can you see anyone who voted for him in 2000 voting for any RepubliCON? Can you see any independent voting for any RepubliCON? And I know quite a few RepubliCONS who will not vote for another RepubliCON until their party is wrested from the control of the neoCONS. There is no way that Gore could lose.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:17 ami live in tennessee. the ‘common wisdom’ is that al gore didn’t spend enough time campaigning here, but i don’t think he could have ever won this state back then.
tennessee has too many rednecks, and ignorants like m12, michael, jake and ct. it’s poor little men like these whose fear of emasculation is so great they feel like they have to vote for a chest-puffing all-hat-no-cattle cowboy.
go on, trolls, continue to profess your man-love for the ultimate failure of a man in the white house. it’s clear you’re just trying to compensate for feelings of inadequacy.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:40 amIs Gore’s vote on Iraq still for sale like it was in 1991?
May 30th, 2007 at 10:01 amI have two bumper stickers on my car. One says “Impeach Bush” and the other reads “Re-elect Gore, President 2008″. Al Gore may be our country’s only hope to restore our constitution and the rule of law. Gore/Edwards, Gore/Obama, Gore/Clark………….endless possibilities.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:02 amHe would have to read it first green.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:14 am#5
Well, I know what I am not, and that is a 2 time Presidential loser like Al is going to be.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:46 amclimate change is nothing more than an industry for algore.
carbon off-sets – a scam that not even dumbass regressives are falling for.
i pray he runs
May 30th, 2007 at 10:54 amOh look, mikey’s made another strawman again… how clever of him.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 30, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Tripped up by the internet again. Well, time to claim strawman again. Good thing no one has caught on to me yet.
Thought by TerrytheTurtle—May 30, 2007 @12:11
“Tennessee has too many rednecks, and ignorants…”
Comment by lonesomerobot — May 30, 2007 @ 9:40 am
Liberal blogs: bastions of tolerance as always. ;)
May 30th, 2007 at 11:58 amKate Henry at #54
Very well said. I wrote a lette to Olbermann telling him the same thing. I had to replay his responses a half dozen times in order to get an inkling as to what he was talking about. He also said to Olbermann that he disagreed with Cindy Sheehan but at the end of his response said that the facts and the policy seemed to be more relevant in the past than they are today, which was pretty much the point that Mrs. Sheehan was attempting to make. Gore has to engage less in obfuscation by speaking in a much more clearer way to the general public.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:05 pmGore/ Chuck Norris 2008!!!
May 30th, 2007 at 12:39 pmComment by upright left — May 30, 2007 @ 11:58 am
Oh dear, you’ve screwed up again. I can only conclude you have no idea what you are talking about…. mikey’s strawman is very simple: he claims that Gore supported the Iraq War by providing quotations that support a completely different conclusion – that Gore thought the 2002 intelligence on WMD was decent.
Try again, f***wit.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:46 pmthat Gore thought the 2002 intelligence on WMD was decent and therefore valid reason for the war.
Try again, f***wit.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 30, 2007 @ 12:46
Easy there, turtle. No need to get all riled up. ;)
May 30th, 2007 at 1:15 pmTripped up by the internet again. Well, time to claim strawman again. Good thing no one has caught on to me yet.
Thought by TerrytheTurtle—May 30, 2007 @12:11
You keep from putting words in my mouth and we’ll see.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:31 pmYou keep from putting words in my mouth and we’ll see.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 30, 2007 @ 1:31
Heh, heh, heh. ;)
May 30th, 2007 at 1:38 pmCoulda, woulda, shoulda.
While it’s nice to think what Modern Gore would be like in office, let’s not forget that when he actually WAS a Senator, his record was not exactly a brilliant beacon of progressive policy. He voted to confirm Scalia, for God’s sake.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:50 pm69. — also its kinda weird that globale warming began 20 january, 2001
May 30th, 2007 at 2:17 pm