Comment by CaptainMantastic — May 29, 2007 @ 1:45 pm

Oh, are you talking about the resolutions granted after Powell’s error-filled speech to the U.N. Security Council?

Tyler Drumheller, former chief of the CIA’s European operations, in an interview by Spiegel Online:

SPIEGEL: The German government was convinced that “Curveball” would not be used in the now famous presentation that then US Secretary of State Colin Powell gave in 2003 before the United Nations Security Council.

Drumheller: I had assured my German friends that it wouldn’t be in the speech. I really thought that I had put it to bed. I had warned the CIA deputy John McLaughlin that this case could be fabricated. The night before the speech, then CIA director George Tenet called me at home. I said: “Hey Boss, be careful with that German report. It’s supposed to be taken out. There are a lot of problems with that.” He said: “Yeah, yeah. Right. Dont worry about that.”

SPIEGEL: But it turned out to be the centerpiece in Powell’s presentation — and nobody had told him about the doubts.

Drumheller: I turned on the TV in my office, and there it was. So the first thing I thought, having worked in the government all my life, was that we probably gave Powell the wrong speech. We checked our files and found out that they had just ignored it.

SPIEGEL: So the White House just ignored the fact that the whole story might have been untrue?

Drumheller: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy.

Comment by CaptainMantastic — May 29, 2007 @ 1:21 pm

Not everyone.

Colin Powell, Feb. 24, 2001, Cairo, Egypt:

We had a good discussion, the Foreign Minister and I and the President and I, had a good discussion about the nature of the sanctions — the fact that the sanctions exist — not for the purpose of hurting the Iraqi people, but for the purpose of keeping in check Saddam Hussein’s ambitions toward developing weapons of mass destruction. We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq.

May 15, 2001:

Secretary Powell: The sanctions, as they are called, have succeeded over the last 10 years, not in deterring him from moving in that direction, but from actually being able to move in that direction. The Iraqi regime militarily remains fairly weak. It doesn’t have the capacity it had 10 or 12 years ago. It has been contained. And even though we have no doubt in our mind that the Iraqi regime is pursuing programs to develop weapons of mass destruction — chemical, biological and nuclear — I think the best intelligence estimates suggest that they have not been terribly successful. There’s no question that they have some stockpiles of some of these sorts of weapons still under their control, but they have not been able to break out, they have not been able to come out with the capacity to deliver these kinds of systems or to actually have these kinds of systems that is much beyond where they were 10 years ago.

And Condi Rice, July 29, 2001:

But in terms of Saddam Hussein being there, let’s remember that his country is divided, in effect. He does not control the northern part of his country. We are able to keep arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt.

And let me just say that the sanctions were being reconfigured to keep the pressure on Saddam.

In summary…

We knew in 2001 that, yes, according to Powell he had some stockpiles of WMD’s, but he couldn’t use them, he was not a threat to his neighbors, he had been contained, he did not have the capacity to restart any WMD programs, and he was not a threat to the United States.

Yet on 9/12/01 the Bush administration wanted to attack Iraq. Why? “Because they have better targets” according to Donald Rumsfeld.

Bush called on Saddam to disarm. Saddam said he didn’t have any WMDs. Bush called him a liar and invaded any way. So who was right in the end? Saddam was.

Hmmmm, in the months before the attacks of 9/11 Condi Rice and Colin Powell, among others, were saying Saddam had no capability of attacking us or building nuclear weapons.

Back at ya, Mighty Hypocrite.

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http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2005/mar/salvador_gangs/gallery10.jpg

Apparently the nearly 3000 murders of US citizens each year is no thang!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw0KYgbV_M8&mode=related&search=

Enjoy!

Comment by hacker bob #157

…her former husband and (estranged) children are ALL cowards…

…something with which YOU (hb) are certainly intimately familiar with…

Comment by Tundra #142

…she’s (they’re) saying AFTER they tried EVERYTHING they could to open your eyes…

…butyou wouldn’t SEE!

…so they’ve paid their dues, they owe you NOTHING else…

Comment by CaptainMantastic — May 29, 2007 @ 11:35 am

Take a look around, everyone on this planet hates your hero and calls him the devil himself.
He promotes freedom ? No . . .
He promotes money laundering at the highest level.
This ‘freedom on the march’ bullsh*t is just that . . . bullsh*t.
Whatever happend to the ’smokin’ gun in the form of a shroom cloud’ there Captain-sh*t-for-brains?
What happened to Saddam building a nuke ?
I guess your man Junior didn’t find the WMDs by looking under his desk and joking about it as our men and women and hundreds of thousands of Iraqies died.
Iraq wasn’t a haven for terrahists until your hero helped to make it so.
Get the picture genious ? They created this mess so they could generate endless war and borrow money to give to their corporate friends untill their father Satan’s hell freezes over.
Your sorry a*s is paid to be on this site and spout crap.
You must be getting less than minimum wage.
You should be more than ashamed of yourself.
Now crawl back under the sh*t soaked rock you were conceived on and stay there.

ThinkProgress should run the whole thing, complete, on a thread…
cindy had so much to say to so many people about so many things…

hopefully this will wake up a lot of people and get us moving…
someone’s gotta do it…

and, as i guessed, she’s not done… “there are still people dying”, she just told randi, calling in…
good on cindy!
…

I’m sure her husband and children feel Cindy was horribly smeared and abused.

The last I heard, they supported what she was doing — even her husband. Their marriage was in trouble before their son’s death.

What you *believe* isn’t relevant or accurate – merely st*pid.

We in fact have diverted our attention away from the problem of “terrorism”, by an occupation of Iraq. A country that did not attack us, and posed no threat to us. Meanwhile, Al Qaeda is stronger than before Iraq was invaded, there are more terrorist attacks *internationally* (so much for your containment fantasy), we’ve had Anthrax attacks in the US, and several attempted attacks that were thwarted not because of “superior” administration tactics, but because of sharp average citizens.

There’s nothing “tastic” about you, nor anything “manly”, you sniveling st*pid little coward.

Point being that not having an attack here is no indicator that the flypaper strategy is working. Prior to the war, if the flypaper strategy was brought up as a reason for invading Iraq, it would have been laughed out of congress. The reality is that the flypaper strategy was thought up after the invasion. Sadaam was sold as a clear a present threat to our national security. The white house used fear to make people think Sadaam and AlQueda were the same thing and they used the media to hammer that point home. How many times did we hear that Bush speech where he made a sad face when talking about 911, then he made the concerned face when talking about Sadaam and WMD and finally the angry face where the would do the Never again part of the speech. It’s no wonder that so many people believed and still believe that Sadaam had a hand in 911.

Tell me this, lets play the game where the flypaper strategy was the point all along, what was wrong with the flypaper we had in Afghanistan? After all that is where AlQueda had their largest presence. It is right next door to where they have their safest haven (Pakistan, not Iran which is a completely different beast from AlQueda).. Why the need to take down a country that was zero threat to the US? The answer is easy to decipher when you read the position papers on Iraq written by the PNAC and couple those papers with noting how many PNAC members were or are currently serving in this administration. Face it we went to war on the basis of an elitist think tanks unproven, untested, un verifiable poorly thought out theories, and now we have a huge mess to deal with and that mess is getting worse day by day. I predicted the Iraq war before Bush was sworn in based solely on the people he was bringing into office with him. My In-laws, who voted for Bush though Powell would keep those people in check. Of course they had no idea Powell was such a weak force. Always was, always will be. He is the perfect example of the Peter principle when applied to the military.

Comment by Zooey — May 29, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

Turning her back on her husband and surviving children is doing the right thing?

I wonder if her husband and children feel the same way.

“Pompous-egos” and “Being-Used”? Wow, what a perfect description for you and that “Professional-Victim” Iraqi veteran that goes around claiming everyone is “spitting” on him and calling him names!

Yeah, selfless, what a thing to “hate”. Wanting people to not die for useless causes – how dare people be “selfless” that way… What’s wrong, does that make you feel “guilty” for being a selfish b*tch? You st*pid hate filled c*nt – Valiant Ben Laden!

You’re such a st*pid c*nt – stop projecting just because you’re such a whiny professional victim. Tell me, how did the “libruls” make you a Victim today? Was it Iraq or Venezuela that makes you feel “victimized”? You st*pid miserable c*nt.

Still buying the lie, I see. 6 years and the PNAC hasn’t attacked us again. And why should they? They got what they wanted from their “Pearl Harbor” event.

In fact, they’ve even dropped the PNAC monicker and switched to the more patriotic sounding American Enterprise Institute.

TRUE WARRIORS FIERCELY DEFEND THEIR PEOPLE

AND INTELLIGENTLY CONFRONT

TRAITORS AND THE ENEMIES OF THEIR PEOPLE

BETTER TO LIVE AND DIE FIGHTING FOR THE LIBERATION OF ANAHUAC

THAN TO LIVE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE AS A SLAVE OF THE EUROPEANS!

That comes from this site…

http://www.mexica-movement.org/

This is their claim…

We are Nican Tlaca, the Indigenous People

of Canada, U.S., Mexico, and “Central America”.

We reject the European divisions of our continent.

We reject the artificial divisions of our people.

We include “First Nation” and “Native American” Nican Tlaca.

We include “South American” Nican Tlaca.

We say, “No to occupation!” We say, “This is still our continent!”

So at its root this is their mission statement and declaration of war. So, this group is not for more lax immigration but wants all non – Nican Tlaca out. Black, White, Red or Yellow, get out now!

That is pretty much a war and there are thousands of bodies every year to prove it is happening (Google it all yourself). The US Citizens have nothing against orderly immigration. Nican Tlaca is a hate group and seems intent on overthrowing the US government (those would be many of those people in the masks).