Comments on: New Bernstein Book On Hillary Provides Platform For Sexist Remarks http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:13:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: valiant venus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-3833243 valiant venus Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:41:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3833243 TPs' commenting on the pedantic musings of those who aren't blind, deaf and dumb, remind me of the scorching every conservative woman gets here. But since we're not so thinned skinned - it doesn't bother us nearly as much as Dems TPs’ commenting on the pedantic musings of those who aren’t blind, deaf and dumb, remind me of the scorching every conservative woman gets here. But since we’re not so thinned skinned – it doesn’t bother us nearly as much as Dems

]]> By: valiant venus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-3832361 valiant venus Thu, 31 May 2007 19:48:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3832361 Ahhhh, that prankster Carl Bernstein. Wanting someone other than Hillary to run for the Dems is not surprising (when this book was in the process of printing and binding Hillary was SUPPORTING the troops financially). Hillary is an intelligent woman whose personality is either LOVED or HATED. The Dems would do better to nominate Edwards or Obama to run against Fred Thompson......But I keep hoping for a Hillary nomination!! Ahhhh, that prankster Carl Bernstein. Wanting someone other than Hillary to run for the Dems is not surprising (when this book was in the process of printing and binding Hillary was SUPPORTING the troops financially). Hillary is an intelligent woman whose personality is either LOVED or HATED. The Dems would do better to nominate Edwards or Obama to run against Fred Thompson……But I keep hoping for a Hillary nomination!!

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-3831645 katy Thu, 31 May 2007 15:56:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3831645 ... ... ... ok... there is just NO WAY that a thread with hillary's name AND picture on it can last over 12 hours - even if it's overnight - and get ONLY 50 comments, WITHOUT some HEAVY editing on TP's part... just sayin'... ... …
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… ok… there is just NO WAY that a thread with hillary’s name AND picture on it can last over 12 hours – even if it’s overnight – and get
ONLY 50 comments, WITHOUT some HEAVY editing on TP’s part…

just sayin’…
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]]> By: Just Askin' http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-3831372 Just Askin' Thu, 31 May 2007 13:53:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3831372 "Many colleagues of the Clintons had concluded that Hillary was not as intrinsically bright as her husband.” And that is sexist how? "Hillary’s weight was a regular topic of conversation, spurred by her inability to shed the few pounds that would have made her more attractive" "Her ankles were thick.” And those quotes are sexist how? Its not like Bill Clinton (or Al Gore for that matter) haven'e taken shit for their weight and lots of poltiicians get shit for their physical appearance. That is "looksist" not sexist. “Many colleagues of the Clintons had concluded that Hillary was not as intrinsically bright as her husband.”

And that is sexist how?

“Hillary’s weight was a regular topic of conversation, spurred by her inability to shed the few pounds that would have made her more attractive”

“Her ankles were thick.”

And those quotes are sexist how? Its not like Bill Clinton (or Al Gore for that matter) haven’e taken shit for their weight and lots of poltiicians get shit for their physical appearance. That is “looksist” not sexist.

]]> By: R. McFarland http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3831231 R. McFarland Thu, 31 May 2007 07:17:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3831231 “‘At first, she didn’t wear stockings. … Her hair was friend into an Orphan Annie perm. … There wasn’t one…feminine thing about her.’” (p. 130) “Hillary’s weight was a regular topic of conversation, spurred by her inability to shed the few pounds that would have made her more attractive.” (p.130) “Her ankles were thick.” (p. 32) “[S]he was rarely, if ever, deferential. It had never been her style nor would it ever be.” (p. 130). <strong>“‘She had an opinion on everything. … Issues. People. Where Bill was going to speak. I mean everything.’” (p. 165)</strong> Heaven forfend a woman should have opinions on everything. Much less be assertive. And hey, if she can't shed those pounds, she's not attractive.... This doesn't strike you as sexist? I'm no huge fan of hers, but sheesh.... “‘At first, she didn’t wear stockings. … Her hair was friend into an Orphan Annie perm. … There wasn’t one…feminine thing about her.’” (p. 130)

“Hillary’s weight was a regular topic of conversation, spurred by her inability to shed the few pounds that would have made her more attractive.” (p.130)

“Her ankles were thick.” (p. 32)

“[S]he was rarely, if ever, deferential. It had never been her style nor would it ever be.” (p. 130).

“‘She had an opinion on everything. … Issues. People. Where Bill was going to speak. I mean everything.’” (p. 165)

Heaven forfend a woman should have opinions on everything. Much less be assertive. And hey, if she can’t shed those pounds, she’s not attractive….

This doesn’t strike you as sexist?

I’m no huge fan of hers, but sheesh….

]]> By: All-American Hero http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3831185 All-American Hero Thu, 31 May 2007 06:13:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3831185 Derogatory, you betcha. Sexist... ehhh... not so much. Doesn't change my opinion that she's a cold, calculating, self-serving opportunist. Gravel '08! Derogatory, you betcha. Sexist… ehhh… not so much.

Doesn’t change my opinion that she’s a cold, calculating, self-serving opportunist. Gravel ‘08!

]]> By: Spiffarino http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3831009 Spiffarino Thu, 31 May 2007 04:32:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3831009 <blockquote>This website borders on Fahrenheit 401-levels of censorship–Think Propaganda, anyone? Comment by ceekus — May 30, 2007 @ 11:10 pm</blockquote> Ah, that would be <strong>Fahrenheit 451</strong>, genius. However I feel about Hillary as a politician, there is no excuse for Bernstein's sexism. The very sad thing is he probably doesn't even realize that he's done it.

This website borders on Fahrenheit 401-levels of censorship–Think Propaganda, anyone?

Comment by ceekus — May 30, 2007 @ 11:10 pm

Ah, that would be Fahrenheit 451, genius.

However I feel about Hillary as a politician, there is no excuse for Bernstein’s sexism. The very sad thing is he probably doesn’t even realize that he’s done it.

]]> By: ceekus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830872 ceekus Thu, 31 May 2007 03:10:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830872 <em>To the admin</em> I appreciate the deleted comment. Obviously my remarks hit home. This website borders on <em>Fahrenheit 401</em>-levels of censorship--<em>Think Propaganda</em>, anyone? To the admin

I appreciate the deleted comment. Obviously my remarks hit home.

This website borders on Fahrenheit 401-levels of censorship–Think Propaganda, anyone?

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830861 Zooey Thu, 31 May 2007 03:01:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830861 I don't see the point of writing a book like this -- other than to try to smear Hillary Clinton. Frankly, I think it reflects more poorly on Bernstein than it does Hillary C. I don’t see the point of writing a book like this — other than to try to smear Hillary Clinton.

Frankly, I think it reflects more poorly on Bernstein than it does Hillary C.

]]> By: Beverly S. Hill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830825 Beverly S. Hill Thu, 31 May 2007 02:33:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830825 Carl Bernstein is an ugly, adultrous, womanizing Ass. Dick Morris is a fat, pig who likes to have his toes sucked by hookers!!! Both real reliable sources!!! Gag Me! Carl Bernstein is an ugly, adultrous, womanizing Ass.

Dick Morris is a fat, pig who likes to have his toes sucked by hookers!!!

Both real reliable sources!!!

Gag Me!

]]> By: ceekus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830781 ceekus Thu, 31 May 2007 02:04:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830781 <em>I have a feeling some strong Repugs are trolling just to bash this woman. Comment by Jo-Ann — May 30, 2007 @ 9:36 pm</em> Personally, I'm a socialist, but I know how Republicans and I can get pretty confusing sometimes. My comment stands; Bernstein has the right to print a comment criticizing someone for not being as intrinsically bright as someone else, man or woman. It's an observation that doesn't have anything to do with sex. I haven't read the book so I can't comment on the overall tone, but Nico seems like he's picking and choosing pretty weak arguments to make his "point." I have a feeling some strong Repugs are trolling just to bash this woman.
Comment by Jo-Ann — May 30, 2007 @ 9:36 pm

Personally, I’m a socialist, but I know how Republicans and I can get pretty confusing sometimes. My comment stands; Bernstein has the right to print a comment criticizing someone for not being as intrinsically bright as someone else, man or woman. It’s an observation that doesn’t have anything to do with sex.

I haven’t read the book so I can’t comment on the overall tone, but Nico seems like he’s picking and choosing pretty weak arguments to make his “point.”

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830769 katy Thu, 31 May 2007 01:51:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830769 <em>I have a feeling some strong Repugs are trolling just to bash this woman. Comment by Jo-Ann — May 30, 2007 @ 9:36 pm</em> i can't believe it's not up to 100 with mostly trooll poop... i may have just broken the spell... always happens... sorry... I have a feeling some strong Repugs are trolling just to bash this woman.
Comment by Jo-Ann — May 30, 2007 @ 9:36 pm

i can’t believe it’s not up to 100 with mostly trooll poop…

i may have just broken the spell… always happens…
sorry…

]]> By: Jo-Ann http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830761 Jo-Ann Thu, 31 May 2007 01:36:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830761 Try to pin any of the negative phrases listed against Hillary on ANY man in the race of either party. They'd laugh in your face. If some don't like Hillary for real or imagined reasons, that's fine with her and those of us who support Hillary. Why not comment on who and what you are FOR? I have a feeling some strong Repugs are trolling just to bash this woman. Try to pin any of the negative phrases listed against Hillary on ANY man in the race of either party. They’d laugh in your face. If some don’t like Hillary for real or imagined reasons, that’s fine with her and those of us who support Hillary. Why not comment on who and what you are FOR? I have a feeling some strong Repugs are trolling just to bash this woman.

]]> By: DM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830758 DM Thu, 31 May 2007 01:34:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830758 #40 ~ Sorry, not Yiddish, English. Midwest farm kid-speak. See also: "Johnson", "Willie", and per my 10-yr old son, "Menards". Coincidently, Mel Brooks was also fond of "Schwartz", and named his mythical all-powerful energy after it. Rick Moranis and Bill Pullman had a pleasant scene comparing the size of their Schwartzes, and then dueled with them. #40 ~ Sorry, not Yiddish, English. Midwest farm kid-speak. See also: “Johnson”, “Willie”, and per my 10-yr old son, “Menards”. Coincidently, Mel Brooks was also fond of “Schwartz”, and named his mythical all-powerful energy after it. Rick Moranis and Bill Pullman had a pleasant scene comparing the size of their Schwartzes, and then dueled with them.

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830744 gummitch Thu, 31 May 2007 01:20:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830744 <em>Well, there we go, TP has deleted my comment that referred to Guliani’s schwartz. Apparently it is indecent to discuss a candidate’s qualifications for office if the judgement is based on how they fill out their trousers and not their dress. Comment by DM</em> Maybe it would help if you brushed up on your Yiddish. What you meant to refer to was a "schw@nz". You appear to have commented on Rudy's black person, which is what a "schw@rtza" is. Well, there we go, TP has deleted my comment that referred to Guliani’s schwartz. Apparently it is indecent to discuss a candidate’s qualifications for office if the judgement is based on how they fill out their trousers and not their dress.

Comment by DM

Maybe it would help if you brushed up on your Yiddish. What you meant to refer to was a “schw@nz”. You appear to have commented on Rudy’s black person, which is what a “schw@rtza” is.

]]> By: Mugsy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830739 Mugsy Thu, 31 May 2007 01:18:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830739 It's a shame Bernstein would stoop to "hackery" to sell a book. For a long time now, Carl Bernstein was making a new name for himself as "the anti-Woodward"... his long time compatriot who has become someone that would sell out his own mother for his next big scoop... whatever it takes to remain "relevant". Bernstein on the other hand, has often been the more "investigative" of the Woodward/Bernstein team, so to see him deliver a book that cites sources like Dick "toe sucker" Morris, is a crying shame. It’s a shame Bernstein would stoop to “hackery” to sell a book.

For a long time now, Carl Bernstein was making a new name for himself as “the anti-Woodward”… his long time compatriot who has become someone that would sell out his own mother for his next big scoop… whatever it takes to remain “relevant”.

Bernstein on the other hand, has often been the more “investigative” of the Woodward/Bernstein team, so to see him deliver a book that cites sources like Dick “toe sucker” Morris, is a crying shame.

]]> By: DM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830736 DM Thu, 31 May 2007 01:16:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830736 #35 ~ It was censored for suggestive phrasing and not ideas. You can parody the relevance of Hillary's ankle width by inferring that Guliani's anatomy is insufficient to negotiate trade agreements, but you can't come right out and say "spongy testicles." #35 ~ It was censored for suggestive phrasing and not ideas. You can parody the relevance of Hillary’s ankle width by inferring that Guliani’s anatomy is insufficient to negotiate trade agreements, but you can’t come right out and say “spongy testicles.”

]]> By: ceekus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830732 ceekus Thu, 31 May 2007 01:15:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830732 Anyone want to explain to me how describing a woman who happens to not be "as intrinsically bright" as her husband is sexist? Are we so politically correct as to not allow the exchange of opinion about people if the compliment isn't flattering to a woman? So seems to be the logic of Think Progress. Anyone want to explain to me how describing a woman who happens to not be “as intrinsically bright” as her husband is sexist?

Are we so politically correct as to not allow the exchange of opinion about people if the compliment isn’t flattering to a woman? So seems to be the logic of Think Progress.

]]> By: JTitor http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830724 JTitor Thu, 31 May 2007 01:11:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830724 Comment by katy — Lock n' load Katy. I was just getting ready to write what you have already done. Comment by katy — Lock n’ load Katy. I was just getting ready to write what you have already done.

]]> By: JTitor http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-3830720 JTitor Thu, 31 May 2007 01:07:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/bernstein-on-hillary/#comment-3830720 Comment by DM — Welcome to TP. You know how right you are by how many posts get deleted. If you complain to them, then sometimes they mysteriosly reappear, then come back an hour later and there gone again. Comment by DM — Welcome to TP. You know how right you are by how many posts get deleted. If you complain to them, then sometimes they mysteriosly reappear, then come back an hour later and there gone again.

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