Comments on: Natsios On Bush’s Darfur Strategy: ‘The Purpose of These Sanctions Is Not Sanctions’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:02:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: me http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3844871 me Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:11:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3844871 "Liberals repeatedly make the point that Bush is not the United States." Not that repeatedly. It's usually that conservatives/the GOP/corporate interests are not the United States, rather than chimpy boy who so clearly isn't the statement is redundant. In fact, I don't think conservatives believe that either. Or do they quietly subscribe to the philosophy that the president can say "l'etat c'est moi"? "Therefore, when he says that “The United States will not avert its eyes”, he clearly wasn’t talking about himself, and is free to personally avert away to his heart’s content." Right, because Bush doesn't represent the will of the American people. Nailed it! “Liberals repeatedly make the point that Bush is not the United States.”
Not that repeatedly. It’s usually that conservatives/the GOP/corporate interests are not the United States, rather than chimpy boy who so clearly isn’t the statement is redundant.

In fact, I don’t think conservatives believe that either. Or do they quietly subscribe to the philosophy that the president can say “l’etat c’est moi”?

“Therefore, when he says that “The United States will not avert its eyes”, he clearly wasn’t talking about himself, and is free to personally avert away to his heart’s content.”
Right, because Bush doesn’t represent the will of the American people. Nailed it!

]]> By: Jane Zucker is Racist http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3839361 Jane Zucker is Racist Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:30:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3839361 Help counter the racism of <a href="http://zuckermom2.googlepages.com/" rel="nofollow">Jane Zucker</a> toward Darfurians by <a href="http://zuckermom2.googlepages.com/whatcanidotocountertheracismofjanezucker" rel="nofollow">making donations in her name</a>. Help counter the racism of Jane Zucker toward Darfurians by making donations in her name.

]]> By: celtic cynic http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3831276 celtic cynic Thu, 31 May 2007 11:31:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3831276 Oh, I get it now - they have oil, we want and need the cheap oil. Yes, of course we'll protect the corrupt government and/or the rebels; whatever it takes to keep the wagon rolling. Oh, I get it now – they have oil, we want and need the cheap oil. Yes, of course we’ll protect the corrupt government and/or the rebels; whatever it takes to keep the wagon rolling.

]]> By: james k. sayre http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3831043 james k. sayre Thu, 31 May 2007 04:47:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3831043 Once a Texas oil-nazi, always a Texas oil-nazi... Once a Texas oil-nazi, always a Texas oil-nazi…

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830964 Jay Randal Thu, 31 May 2007 04:10:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830964 US Ambassador Natsios is a Bush Regime certified nut! US Ambassador Natsios is a Bush Regime certified nut!

]]> By: m12 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830963 m12 Thu, 31 May 2007 04:08:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830963 #7 Liberals repeatedly make the point that Bush is not the United States. Therefore, when he says that "The United States will not avert its eyes", he clearly wasn't talking about himself, and is free to personally avert away to his heart's content. #7

Liberals repeatedly make the point that Bush is not the United States.

Therefore, when he says that “The United States will not avert its eyes”, he clearly wasn’t talking about himself, and is free to personally avert away to his heart’s content.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830954 Zooey Thu, 31 May 2007 04:02:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830954 What a frickin' waste of time -- and skin. What a frickin’ waste of time — and skin.

]]> By: m12 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830937 m12 Thu, 31 May 2007 03:53:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830937 It's the UN's job to fix Darfur, not Bush's. Let them deal with it. It’s the UN’s job to fix Darfur, not Bush’s.

Let them deal with it.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830928 RUCerious Thu, 31 May 2007 03:46:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830928 And I hope this teaches those 3 guys a lesson. And I hope this teaches those 3 guys a lesson.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830892 Mr. President Thu, 31 May 2007 03:24:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830892 Of course this *seems* like a contradiction, but you guys didn't here him out: The purpose of these sanctions is not sanctions. [Their] purpose is to send a message to the Sudanese government to start behaving differently when they deal with their own people. But it is also a message to the people, for it is in them that Absolute Spirit will manifest. Accordingly once the negation of the message given to the Sudanese government is, in turn, negated, only then will the Opening of Being-in-itself carve away the Nothingness. This will allow Man as Other than Being to appear as the Idea of Otherness in Man, which is not him. Of course this *seems* like a contradiction, but you guys didn’t here him out:

The purpose of these sanctions is not sanctions. [Their] purpose is to send a message to the Sudanese government to start behaving differently when they deal with their own people.

But it is also a message to the people, for it is in them that Absolute Spirit will manifest. Accordingly once the negation of the message given to the Sudanese government is, in turn, negated, only then will the Opening of Being-in-itself carve away the Nothingness. This will allow Man as Other than Being to appear as the Idea of Otherness in Man, which is not him.

]]> By: justice http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830847 justice Thu, 31 May 2007 02:48:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830847 the Alice in Wonderland style of governing. Every day we fall farther down the rabbit hole. First the trial! Then the evidence! It's insane. the Alice in Wonderland style of governing.

Every day we fall farther down the rabbit hole.

First the trial! Then the evidence!

It’s insane.

]]> By: the republic of stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830836 the republic of stupidity Thu, 31 May 2007 02:44:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830836 Did you know that many of the Africans sold into slavery and shipped to America in the 18th & early 19th centuries came from the Western Sudan/Darfur region? Is this true? I thought most of the Africans that ended up in the New World came from the west coast of Africa. Sudan is all the way to the est, next ot Egypt. That's one long, difficult trip by ship. Did you know that many of the Africans sold into slavery and shipped to America in the 18th & early 19th centuries came from the Western Sudan/Darfur region?

Is this true? I thought most of the Africans that ended up in the New World came from the west coast of Africa. Sudan is all the way to the est, next ot Egypt. That’s one long, difficult trip by ship.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830811 unbelievable Thu, 31 May 2007 02:22:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830811 "Did you know that many of the Africans sold into slavery and shipped to America in the 18th & early 19th centuries came from the Western Sudan/Darfur region? Comment by david — May 30, 2007 @ 10:16 pm" Did you know that those poeple used the bible to justify doing so? “Did you know that many of the Africans sold into slavery and shipped to America in the 18th & early 19th centuries came from the Western Sudan/Darfur region?
Comment by david — May 30, 2007 @ 10:16 pm”

Did you know that those poeple used the bible to justify doing so?

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830810 unbelievable Thu, 31 May 2007 02:21:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830810 "The people of Darfur are fu*ked. Comment by Spudge_Boy — May 30, 2007 @ 10:04 pm" Excellent post. I wonder if someone had the years to spend doing such comparisons between every one of Bush's solemn promises and his lack of action how long the final list would be... A couple miles? “The people of Darfur are fu*ked.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — May 30, 2007 @ 10:04 pm”

Excellent post.

I wonder if someone had the years to spend doing such comparisons between every one of Bush’s solemn promises and his lack of action how long the final list would be… A couple miles?

]]> By: Later... http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830805 Later... Thu, 31 May 2007 02:16:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830805 The message has been sent: the government of the United States has thrown a bone, the only bone it will throw to the raped population of Darfur. That message is the following: Because of the incredible hidden costs of the war on Iraq (er, mean terror), it is necessary to further bend over to the Chinese who are buying are debt by the er, container load. We can't piss off the Chinese or else they will pull the plug and the entire house of cards will collapse. Aside from that we are still whores of the oil industry. So when we say sanctions, we really mean no sanctions. Believe nothing we say. We are so pathetically lost that it is doubtful the country will be structured the same in 15 years. Enough about us. Godspeed good people of Darfur, because if we know the Chinese, you'll be dead soon anyway. The message has been sent: the government of the United States has thrown a bone, the only bone it will throw to the raped population of Darfur. That message is the following: Because of the incredible hidden costs of the war on Iraq (er, mean terror), it is necessary to further bend over to the Chinese who are buying are debt by the er, container load. We can’t piss off the Chinese or else they will pull the plug and the entire house of cards will collapse. Aside from that we are still whores of the oil industry. So when we say sanctions, we really mean no sanctions. Believe nothing we say. We are so pathetically lost that it is doubtful the country will be structured the same in 15 years. Enough about us. Godspeed good people of Darfur, because if we know the Chinese, you’ll be dead soon anyway.

]]> By: david http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830804 david Thu, 31 May 2007 02:16:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830804 The purpose of these sanctions is PR spin. Nothing more. The appearance of doing something. Did you know that many of the Africans sold into slavery and shipped to America in the 18th & early 19th centuries came from the Western Sudan/Darfur region? The purpose of these sanctions is PR spin. Nothing more. The appearance of doing something.

Did you know that many of the Africans sold into slavery and shipped to America in the 18th & early 19th centuries came from the Western Sudan/Darfur region?

]]> By: the republic of stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830800 the republic of stupidity Thu, 31 May 2007 02:13:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830800 Let's see... gay guys in Alabama are potentially terrorists, but when it comes to Darfur, sanctions aren't really sanctions, there just messages. Ya gotta love that GOP logic, folks. Up is down, good is bad, and George Bush knows what he's doing... Let’s see… gay guys in Alabama are potentially terrorists, but when it comes to Darfur, sanctions aren’t really sanctions, there just messages.

Ya gotta love that GOP logic, folks. Up is down, good is bad, and George Bush knows what he’s doing…

]]> By: cakewalk my ass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830784 cakewalk my ass Thu, 31 May 2007 02:06:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830784 It's a <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=PNc1NGlZpN0" rel="nofollow">boondoggle</a>. It’s a boondoggle.

]]> By: Spudge_Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830782 Spudge_Boy Thu, 31 May 2007 02:04:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830782 - George W Bush May 29, 2007 “I promise this to the people of Darfur. The United States will not avert our eyes from a crisis that challenges the conscience of the world,” -George W Bush September 15, 2005 "And tonight I also offer this pledge of the American people: Throughout the area hit by the hurricane, we will do what it takes, we will stay as long as it takes, to help citizens rebuild their communities and their lives." The people of Darfur are fu*ked. - George W Bush May 29, 2007

“I promise this to the people of Darfur. The United States will not avert our eyes from a crisis that challenges the conscience of the world,”

-George W Bush September 15, 2005

“And tonight I also offer this pledge of the American people: Throughout the area hit by the hurricane, we will do what it takes, we will stay as long as it takes, to help citizens rebuild their communities and their lives.”

The people of Darfur are fu*ked.

]]> By: mongo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-3830775 mongo Thu, 31 May 2007 01:58:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/darfur-not-sanctions/#comment-3830775 "The purpose of these sanctions is not sanctions." Our government has now officially adopted newspeak. War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. "Wake Up! It's 1984." --Oingo Boingo “The purpose of these sanctions is not sanctions.”

Our government has now officially adopted newspeak.

War Is Peace.

Freedom Is Slavery.

“Wake Up! It’s 1984.” –Oingo Boingo

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