National Review’s Rich Lowry:
“Was talking to an influential Republican strategist who thinks if Iraq looks the way it does now in September, Bush will lose about 25 Senate Republicans on a bill with some sort of timetable for withdrawal.”
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TP - thanks for the info - but let’s not get our hopes up again… It was too heartbreaking last week when the Democrats caved to Lieberman’s threats of switching parties and ended up giving the criminal Bush his blank check to kill more people…
May 30th, 2007 at 5:40 pma bill with some sort of timetable for withdrawal.
Something that was favored by 70% of troops in Iraq polled … LAST YEAR.
But the troops are just toilet paper to a Republican.
May 30th, 2007 at 5:41 pm.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer President.
May 30th, 2007 at 5:41 pmCome September, how many more Americans will have died for Bush’s ego?
How many more families torn apart so that that trust-fund-baby can strut around like an idiot?
May 30th, 2007 at 5:44 pm.
But how many Democrats will he lose….?
May 30th, 2007 at 5:46 pmPoliticains should not be able to switch parties in the middle of a term. Lieberman was voted in as an Independent, and should serve his term out as such. Otherwise it’s a bait and switch scheme.
May 30th, 2007 at 5:46 pmThat, according to my math would make a veto proof majority.
May 30th, 2007 at 5:47 pmHmmmm. Wonder if their balls (or other appropriate body part) will be brassy enough, or they’ll cave as per instruction from Rove & Co.
My guess is that their constituents will be coming after them with torches and pitchforks about then.
Sounds great, but I’m not getting my hopes up again. Even if 25 republicans do switch over, (which I doubt) what is to say the dems won’t just hand him a blank check again?
May 30th, 2007 at 5:49 pmEh, I ain’t buying it.
As a Democrat, the biggest problem in Washington is the Democrats.
May 30th, 2007 at 5:51 pmOnly 25?
May 30th, 2007 at 5:53 pmCool!!!!!!!!!!!
… why do they have to wait till september?
May 30th, 2007 at 5:55 pm…
“Politicains should not be able to switch parties in the middle of a term. Lieberman was voted in as an Independent, and should serve his term out as such. Otherwise it’s a bait and switch scheme.
Comment by ForTruth — May 30, 2007 @ 5:46 pm”
Sorry - I should have said that Lieberman has threatened to caucus with the Republicans if the Democrats don’t stop with the time tables in some smug passive aggressive manner. The Rude Pundit has a link to the interview in which Lieberman made the threat.
May 30th, 2007 at 5:55 pmIraq looks like what, according to whom? Given that even the war supporters who go over there can’t tell how bad it is, how are the rest of them capable of understanding it?
May 30th, 2007 at 5:56 pmWe can’t even get Democrats to vote for timetables. Why would we think 25 Republicans will?
May 30th, 2007 at 6:09 pmHow is Bush going to manipulate these numbers as we have seen him do with so many issues?
May 30th, 2007 at 6:15 pmI will believe it when I see it.
May 30th, 2007 at 6:16 pmBush has just said he wants a South Korea style presence - superbases and fifty years. What makes anyone think he’ll listen to 25 Republicans?
More interesting - why does he think the next WH incumbent will go along with his plan, as he obviously does?
Regards, C
May 30th, 2007 at 6:20 pmPoliticains should not be able to switch parties in the middle of a term. Lieberman was voted in as an Independent, and should serve his term out as such. Otherwise it’s a bait and switch scheme.
Comment by ForTruth
Agreed. It is called a recall petiton. Apparently Lieberman’s constituancy is ok with being lied to and made out to be fools - just like W’s supporters. It makes me so angry to know certain citizens really like being abused and pushed around. Does anybody have any self respect anymore?
May 30th, 2007 at 6:26 pmWhen Bush first announced his “new plan” (back in, what, January?) weren’t we told by him and the other neocon supporters that we needed to give the plan about three months before we’d see results? How did this get changed to September? And how can any elected official watch 100+ US troops die EACH MONTH until September finally rolls around. Once again, I am so glad that my Congressman is John Hall, at least HE
May 30th, 2007 at 6:40 pmI’ll believe it when I actually see it.
May 30th, 2007 at 6:42 pmA timetable for withdrawal . . . September 2008 . . .
May 30th, 2007 at 6:49 pmAh, I see. And then in September (3 more months at an average of 100 “expired” service personnel per month means 300 “expired” troops from now) the Dems, with their newfound bipartisan coven of kindred spirits will vote for another supplemental that will fund the Iraq Genocide Project, but may even include a timetable that extends well into 2009.
So, this is the progressive political strategy for ending an internationally illegal, morally reprehensible, humanisticly deplorable, and PUBLICLY OPPOSED military action that is killing thousands of people monthly: Gum it to near death and then let it die of attrition.
All hail the war-crazy United States. One group says “we love war and hope it lasts forever” and the other group says “we don’t like the appearance of war and we’ll bring an end to this at a pace that guarantees that the maximum of time will elapse during the process. Oh, and vote dem”.
As we discuss murder/war in the abstract, how easy it is to be saddened by those that have been killed and wounded yet speak in terms of months and years regarding resolving this atrocity. What a great luxury.
The flaw in the sanctimony of the current batch of “Americans”, whether R or D, is the disconnect with reality. The only way that a solution months away is a viable solution is when all parties involved will or should survive the wait. That’s not a reality. Tomorrow, an average of 3 service members will die for a lie. Tomorrow, an average of 50 Iraqis will be murdered. Tomorrow, the anti-war crowd will talk about “September”. Not in the context of an end date, but in the context that that is the next time anything will be done to end the greatest wrong the United States has ever perpetrated.
Since we seem to think that the choice is ours to make, who shall die tomorrow? Let’s start picking them out in advance so that the families can have some time to plan. Maybe even a lottery.
I mean really, they do mean nothing to us. We know that if we don’t stop that more are going to die but the current response is “Septemberâ€, around 100 “tomorrows†from now. So they cannot mean anything to you if you are willing to cavalierly sacrifice a few hundred or so for political maneuvering.
That’s the reality. Fcuk the Republicans and Fcuk the Democrats. Two hemorrhoids, both part of the same a$$hole.
May 30th, 2007 at 7:00 pmWhy should Rich Lowry suddenly get something right? If he’s “reporting” this, it’s obviously cow pie.
May 30th, 2007 at 7:13 pmThose same “25 Senate Republicans” will fight tooth and nail to postpone the troop withdrawals based on domestic political goals. They are useless a$$wipes. They allow blood to flow in the sands of Iraq while they take “virtual” summer recess from this issue; the same as the Iraqi parliament(sp?) wants to do or is doing(?)
No one needs a Repugniscum serving in any office in this land!!!
Vote every last one of these enemies of the state out of office. It’s the least you can do!!!
May 30th, 2007 at 7:20 pmAbsolutely nothing. That’s what will change in September of 2007 or 2008. We will stay the course until January of 2009. Bush is too small to admit he has ever done anything wrong, and the Repugnicunts won’t challenge him. And the pure truth is the little coward has never done anything right in his whole life.
They should have buried him with Falwell.
May 30th, 2007 at 7:26 pmComment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — May 30, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
I hear you Fed. This is beyond politics, this is an abomination left at our doorstep by an abomination himself. There are real people dead and suffering for the vanity of our little Napoleon. It is flat out wrong.
May 30th, 2007 at 7:33 pmIf they’re guilty of…
…mass murder NOW…
…what…
…will they be guilty of…
…MEGA-murder in September?
…fu*k Bush, Cheney and the ENTIRE CONSERVATIVE population…
…may ALL of their heads, souls, fortunes, and movement end up…
…in HELL’S PUBLIC toilets…
May 30th, 2007 at 9:01 pmRich Lowry: another worthless lying traitorous member of the Bush crime family… “screw you in September…” as that old 50s standard went…
The Bush gangsters prefer the pine box/metal casket way of “supporting the troops.” Actually, this whole occupation is an illegal use of the U. S. military for private gain (oil companies) which has been outlawed in U. S. federal codes. But try to get the cowardly spineless Democrats to try to enforce that one…
Actually, the simplest action to end this illegal criminal occupation of Eye-rack is to repeal the original Congressional resolution authorizing the use of force in Eye-rack passed back in October, 2002 (I believe). Bush cannot veto the rescinding of a Congressional resolution. Of course, there is always the problem of Bush just ignoring it as he has ignored many other laws and parts of the U. S. Constitution. Our only legal remedy then is Impeachment, Trial, Conviction and Removal from Office. And for that we need at least one-third of the Republican Senators, and they will only be moved with an immediate and looming threat of their own removal from their Senate seats…
May 30th, 2007 at 9:07 pmAin’t gonna happen, no way, no how. This is the most evil of misinformation launched from the evil cortex of Bush’s Brain.
Petraeus will put a positive spin on things because it’s his duty and he’ll never say things suck even if they do. These supposed votes will vanish into thin air the very millisecond afterwards, under the smokescreen of Petraeus’ positive assessment. So the rationale for the Dems backing off this last spending bill will vanish as they are placed in the identical situation, just in September after still more carnage.
So it’ll be another six months, then another, then another…then we’ll have an election…then regardless of who wins, we’ll have another six months, then another, then another, then another….
Take it to the bank.
The most truthful thing I heard recently was Tony Snow breaking the news that Bush imagines we’ll be there for decades, like South Korea, Germany, Japan, etc. The chances of anythihng different happening are concomitant with the chances of Kucinich winning the Presidency, and friends, that just ain’t gonna happen.
May 31st, 2007 at 11:21 am