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Richardson, Dodd out of Fox debate.

By Nico Pitney on May 30th, 2007 at 4:51 pm

Richardson, Dodd out of Fox debate.

Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) and Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM) confirmed today that they won’t take part in the Fox News/CBC presidential debate. (They join former Sen. John Edwards (D-NC), and Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Barack Obama (D-IL).) If the debate is held as planned, it will pit Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) against Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and former Sen. Mike Gravel (D-AK).



42 Responses to “Richardson, Dodd out of Fox debate.”


  1. Eric says:

    When the going gets tough, pus*ies get running. They have the same policy in Iraq


  2. Yikes says:

    Hey Eric, why is it that the pussies in the Bush admin. only appear on right wing talk shows? F*ck Fox and people like Eric.


  3. unbelievable says:

    The debate will be their lowest Republican ratings, and highest Democratic ratings ever. LOL


  4. ironchef says:

    Sweet! Pretty soon it’ll just be Kucinich debating himself! Might have to tune into that!


  5. mr. mario says:

    *Eric
    IF you are both:
    1.such a manly man
    2. convinced that the strategy in Iraq is gonna work
    then why you sign up for the military and go fight!

    Then again, it IS much easier to question the courage of those who can easily be painted as “un-American” and “cowards” by those who themselves never picked up arms in defense of something greater than themselves.

    Go ahead Eric, go defend Liberty and Freedom in Iraq, may you find logic and reason there sir.


  6. RoboTroll 3000 says:

    Dems have the same policy for Fox that they do in Iraq.

    Fox is a legitimate news organization. Honest, it is!

    Something about Bill Clinton, I don’t know…


  7. criticalthinker says:

    If people TRULY wanted useful debates, they would have the debators debate both sides of the issue, a different side for each half of the debate.

    With such a debate format, HYPOCRISY would become obvious, and would no longer cloud the issues, like it does now.

    Imagine if Kucinich has to argue reasons to stay in Iraq, while McCain has to argue reasons to leave from Iraq!


  8. Spudge_Boy says:

    When the going gets tough, pus*ies get running. They have the same policy in Iraq

    Comment by Eric — May 30, 2007 @ 4:56 pm

    Prove you aren’t a pu$$y and sign up for the military like I did. Pu$$y.


  9. kelso says:

    Kucinich and Gravel, the only two candidates that don’t read from a canned list of scripted answers.

    At the moment, I’m seriously considering supporting Ron Paul’s campaign, and I’ve never supported, or even voted for a Republican in my life.


  10. Eric says:

    When the going gets tough, my pussy starts dripping this wierd ooze!!


  11. martin(fromcanada) says:

    What a thriller, I cant wait for that debate.


  12. Marie says:

    To those who think that Dems should appear on Fox in order to reach people who never watch anything buy Fox.
    You make a point.
    However, such an appearance also serves to legitimize the propaganda network. Their questions are skewed, their phrasing is along the talking point key words, and the generally unfair and unbalanced approach taken by Fox anchors is not one lends itself to anything other than a false representation of what is advertised as a rightful debate.


  13. katy says:

    single issue voters worry me…
    there are many more problems that need fixed in addition
    to the iraq fiasco… they won’t get fixed by ANY repug…
    no matter how anti-war they may be…
    the hagel supporters need to learn more also…


  14. trueblue says:

    That ought to be a spectacle.

    2 mavericks and the guy who loves to listen to his own voice.

    I wish they would all stand up for themselves and boycott Fox.

    - – #11 – -eeewwwwwww!


  15. Ringo says:

  16. Ringo says:

    When the going gets tough, my pussy starts dripping this wierd ooze!!

    Comment by Eric
    ——————————————————

    WTF ?


  17. whiteyfresh says:

    #11-”Gannon sauce?”

    i KNOW, i KNOW….nasty…

    but I couldn’t resist!

    :)


  18. Mr. President says:

    The FOX debate is 4 L-O-S-E-R-S!!!!!!!

    oh, m’ god.

    You are totally NOT cool if you’re going.

    Like,

    all the cool Democratic candidates,

    are like,

    gonna totally get wasted that night,

    so like,

    why would anyone want go on FOX?


  19. Ace says:

    Regardless of where this is, the three candidates who will be at this debate will get tons of air time and the ability to get their views across. Legitimation of fox’s agenda aside, airtime is airtime.

    Debate aside, I’m not really feeling the progressive’s general antipathy towards the fox agenda. I’m not a fox supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but they are aiming to have a fair, even discussion of politics in America. I’m surprised that a community that thrives with an interest in hearing all sides of an argument is so adamantly against a venue that is offering such an ability. I used to think that it was a good idea that these candidates were skipping the debate, but now I’m starting to believe otherwise.


  20. Willy says:

    Hey, bedwetter Ringo:

    Quick, go hide under your bed. The terrerrists are coming.


  21. KRank says:

    I’m not a fox supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but they are aiming to have a fair, even discussion of politics in America. I’m surprised that a community that thrives with an interest in hearing all sides of an argument is so adamantly against a venue that is offering such an ability. I used to think that it was a good idea that these candidates were skipping the debate, but now I’m starting to believe otherwise.

    Comment by Ace — May 30, 2007 @ 5:28 pm

    Concern troll alert.

    Ace, anyone who thinks that Fox is truly aiming to have a “fair, even discussion of politics in America” is deluded. They’re not even trying to make it look good anymore.


  22. JPV says:

    When the going gets tough, pus*ies get running. They have the same policy in Iraq

    Comment by Eric

    You mean the policy of withdrawal that Republicans are now talking about?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/27/ftn/main2856913.shtml

    (CBS) Most Republicans in Congress are expecting the president to start cutting back on the number of troops in Iraq, conservative Republican Senator Jeff Sessions said on Face The Nation.

    —–

    “I don’t think we need to be an occupying power. This is a fine line we’ve walked, and this surge has got to be temporary,” Sessions said. “Because of the violence in the capital city of Baghdad, we had to take a bitter pill, and this Congress has supported General Petraeus and the step up for a surge for a temporary period.”

    Sessions thinks the president is “coming around” to the same point of view.

    “I certainly hope that will occur. We cannot sustain this level, in my opinion, in Iraq and Afghanistan much longer,” he said.

    Or the one of “appeasement”, that the Bush administration is now investigating?

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276091,00.html

    BAGHDAD — The United States and Iran broke a 27-year diplomatic freeze Monday with a four-hour meeting about Iraqi security. The American envoy said there was broad policy agreement, but that Iran must stop arming and financing militants who are attacking U.S. and Iraqi forces.


  23. Spudge_Boy says:

    #11-”Gannon sauce?”

    i KNOW, i KNOW….nasty…

    but I couldn’t resist!

    :)

    Comment by whiteyfresh — May 30, 2007 @ 5:27 pm

    The only pu$$y Gannon likes is George Bush.


  24. JPV says:

    When the going gets tough, pus*ies get running.

    Comment by Eric

    Yeah, I heard similar BS somewhere else before…

    “Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”

    – Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


  25. celtic cynic says:

    Good for Richardson and Dodd, they’re about the only ones without the baggage and stupidity of their fellow politicians. The other dingbats will probably prattle on about their beliefs, excuses, the failures of others, etc. Fox is a suitable venue for them.


  26. cage free brown says:

    how could it possibly be worse than the MSNBC debate featuring Brian Williams and his designer sandbags??

    If Dems without big fat bankrolls want to roll the dice and go, I can’t say as I blame them.

    they don’t exist if they aren’t on t.v.


  27. Namtillaku says:

    – Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

    Comment by JPV — May 30, 2007 @ 5:36 pm

    Thanks for the quote, it’s a classic. While it’s ridiculous to compare BushCo to the Nazi’s, there are parallel lines of strategy that they’re using as illustrated by the quote. Fascist is as fascist does.


  28. Namtillaku says:

    Oh, and another similarity is the way that Patrick1, the 28%’ers, Jake/MAF54, Venuswhatever, lick the BushCo boots just as those in Nazi Germany did as well.

    One of the tenets of religion is that human beings are special, the lord giving us dominion etc, yet we are incapable from learning from our mistakes. Not so special if you ask me.


  29. Adog says:

    Eric: have you ever seen the movie “outfoxed?” maybe you should watch it. then again, you’re probably afraid it could change your mind. i’m guessing you also haven’t seen loose change, either. maybe you should move to utah and live with the “utard sheep.” i’m sure you would fit in there.


  30. Zooey says:

    The trollies seem to think that the Fox debate is the ONLY debate which will take place.

    Trolls are stuck on stupid…..


  31. Marie says:

    Adog,
    thanks for the reference to “Outfoxed” — anyone who hasn’t seen the video might like to take a trip to their local blockbuster and rent it.


  32. gummitch says:

    Trolls are stuck on stupid…..

    Comment by Zooey

    It’s part of the job description.


  33. Buck Fush says:

    Well I certainly won’t be tuning into Faux Non-News – I have it blocked at my house. I love it when the relatives come over and ask, “Hey, I can’t get fox on your TV.” and I respond, “No, you sure can’t and won’t ever see it on my TVs.”.

    Hating the Faux Non-News Channel Daily


  34. Abby says:

    Cowards.
    Comment by Ringo — May 30, 2007 @ 5:21 pm

    You wish! Smart, I say. GOP TV must never be given legitimacy as a “news” organization because they don’t deserve any. Don’t believe me? Switch to Fox right now (yes, at any time you read this) and see what they’re talking about.

    I don’t need to anymore. I know what they’ll be talking about. They’ll be saying, “The fact that “x” happened, is proof you should not vote for the Democrats” OR “the fact that “x” did not happen, is proof that you should not vote for the Democrats” depending on whether “x” happened or not.

    GOP TV: Always Unfair and Unbalanced.


  35. Briseadh na Faire says:

    I might actually be interested in watching this.

    Let’s face it, it’s a give Fox will ask biased and loaded questions, questions that assume the answer; like the ticking time-bomb scenario that’s totally fictitious, but designed to make it so that the respondent has no morale choice but to torture someone.

    It will be very enlightening to see how these three handle such questions. Certainly they show no fear about going into a hostile environment, and, as President, the minute they step on the world stage, they will be in a hostile environment, thanks to Bush&Co. (witness how Mexico treated Miss USA, for example)

    Do I care for Fox? No. But they will provide a good proving ground.


  36. dixie blood says:

    Of the 3 that are left so far I would commit to watching this “debate” on Fux nOoze if they could cut out Biden. What a loser. He would probably side with the Fux nOzze Kool-Aid guzzlers!!

    It would be great to listen to Cucinich and Gravel rip the Fux nOzze a$$holes a brand new exit “strategery” in a personal-sort-of-way.


  37. Kate Henry says:

    I have to say that I am very disappointed in Kucinich. And I could care less what that slime Biden does.

    But, considering how the MSM ignores Kucinich, he may see this as his only opportunity to be heard.


  38. Kate Henry says:

    “At the moment, I’m seriously considering supporting Ron Paul’s campaign, and I’ve never supported, or even voted for a Republican in my life.”

    Before you think about that, please read up and see what Mr. Paul represents. Other than his sensible stand on the occupation of Iraq, Ron Paul is another horror of a RepubliCON who pretty much votes the party line.

    There are plenty of Democrats to vote for who still have a spine and some courage. John Edwards comes to mind for me. But then, I’m holding out for re-electing Gore/Edwards.


  39. JTitor says:

    Comment by CaptainVideo — I was thinking the same thing. What would really be cool is throw Guilianni in there as well and let Ron Paul and Guilianni go at it. Even beter all of um in the cage of death and the last one standing gets the nod….flmao


  40. hbrockey says:

    If one participates in the CNN Debate on June 3rd, which has Glenn Beck on CNN Headline News, then I do not see why one can’t participate in the Fox News Debate. As bad as Fox News is, and it is bad, I think that Glenn Beck is worse or just as bad as any person on Fox News, including Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity.


  41. Jay Randal says:

    Biden should debate himself on FOX network, because he straddles the fence on every issue.



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