ThinkFast: May 30, 2007
ThinkFast: May 30, 2007
The Bush administration is “nearing completion of a long-delayed executive order that will set new rules for interrogations” by the CIA. The order is expected to “ban the harshest techniques used in the past,” including waterboarding, “but to authorize some methods that go beyond those allowed in the military by the Army Field Manual.”
“More than a month after the Office of Special Counsel announced it will establish a task force to mount a government-wide investigation of alleged violations of the law that limits political activity in federal agencies, the group’s formation remains in the preliminary stages.”
“The Taliban has merged its propaganda and field operations with those of the global al Qaeda network led by Osama bin Laden,” enabling the Taliban to “develop from a xenophobic, home-grown Islamist movement into a more outward looking force that is helping to advance al Qaeda’s global interests.”
Activists say President Bush’s Darfur sanctions announced yesterday are “too little, too late.” The sanctions “target three people with suspected links to the violence as well as about 30 companies” in Sudan. “Three people? After four years? And not one of them the real ringleader of the policy to divide and destroy Darfur?” asked John Prendergast of the Enough Project.
The New York Times finds that some conservatives in Congress are “struggl[ing] to appease increasingly restless constituents” over Iraq. “I think this is the most expensive, stupidest thing ever done,” one Republican and former “staunch backer” of President Bush now says.
“Under increasing pressure from Democrats in Congress to increase the number of Iraqi refugees allowed into the U.S., the Department of Homeland Security says it has finally approved a process to weed out potential terrorists and admit as many as 7,000 Iraqis by Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year.”
“Even ‘moderate additional’ greenhouse emissions are likely to push Earth past ‘critical tipping points’ with ‘dangerous consequences for the planet,’ according to research conducted by NASA and the Columbia University Earth Institute.”
Bush scolded opponents of the immigration reform legislation, saying they “haven’t read the bill” and are offering “empty political rhetoric.” Conservatives bristled at his remarks. “I don’t think name-calling does any good at this point,” said David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union. “No yelling and screaming by the administration is going to change our minds,” said another conservative.
“The United States is better prepared to deal with a major disaster like Hurricane Katrina, which devastated the Gulf region in 2005, but still lacks a formal structure for coordinating a national response, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard said on Tuesday.”
And finally: “You go to the club with the yacht you have…” Now that Donald Rumsfeld is no longer Defense Secretary, he has time for his “other hobbies” — skiing, squash, and yachting. He and his wife have joined the Miles River Yacht Club in St. Michaels, MD, which is “considered one of the more exclusive boating clubs on the Eastern Shore.” But the Examiner notes that Rumsfeld will likely do little yachting because his “membership is mainly for socializing.”
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May 30th, 2007 at 9:00 am“The Taliban has merged its propaganda and field operations with those of the global al Qaeda network led by Osama bin Laden,†enabling the Taliban to “develop from a xenophobic, home-grown Islamist movement into a more outward looking force that is helping to advance al Qaeda’s global interests.â€
And they couldn’t have done it without us.
Thanks, Chimpy.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:01 am“Even ‘moderate additional’ greenhouse emissions are likely to push Earth past ‘critical tipping points’ with ‘dangerous consequences for the planet,’ according to research conducted by NASA and the Columbia University Earth Institute.â€
We’re going to see this tipping point reached within our lifetimes…better start practicing explaining to your grandchildren why we let the world choke to death on our wastes.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:05 amRegarding Al Gore’s appearance last night on Countdown where he took the media to task for their direct role in our demise…
Jesus Christ, Al, call it what it is!
CONSPIRACY
COLLUSION
FEDERALLY FUNDED PROPAGANDA
FRAUD
TREASON
All of these are ILLEGAL in a country that purports to live by the RULE OF LAW.
Reveal the king pins behind it:
George HW Bush & David Rockefeller
And the country that benefits most:
Israel.
Stop being polite.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:06 am“I think this is the most expensive, stupidest thing ever done,†one Republican and former “staunch backer†of President Bush now says.
Funny how it suddenly becomes expensive and stupid when these bozos are facing a p*ssed off electorate.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:08 amFive Britons taken from inside the Iraqi Finance Ministry by “insurgents” in police uniforms waved through security by Ministry guards. Possible Madhi Army revenge for UK involvement in death of Shia radical cleric?
May 30th, 2007 at 9:08 am“The United States is better prepared to deal with a major disaster like Hurricane Katrina, which devastated the Gulf region in 2005, but still lacks a formal structure for coordinating a national response, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard said on Tuesday.â€
Oh, there’s a formal structure in place, all right…here it is.
National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51 basically makes Chimpy Emperor in the event of “a catastrophic emergencyâ€, which is defined rather sketchily as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government function.â€
With such a structure in place, I can imagine that the administration will find a reason to invoke it soon enough.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:15 am“The New York Times finds that some conservatives in Congress are “struggl[ing] to appease increasingly restless constituents†over Iraq. “I think this is the most expensive, stupidest thing ever done,†one Republican and former “staunch backer†of President Bush now says.”
Well I’m sure this guy will find plenty of friends on the surrender friendly side of the aisle. I’ll stick with the log cabin Republicans myself. I love Jeff Gannon. mmm
May 30th, 2007 at 9:20 am“I don’t think name-calling does any good at this point,†said David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:21 am____________________________________
At what point DID name-calling do “any good”? Oh, yeah, when it was aimed at “anti-American, God-hating, terrorist-loving” progressives. I forgot.
Possible Madhi Army revenge for UK involvement in death of Shia radical cleric?
What makes a Muslim teacher/scholar/imam/preacher a “radical cleric?” Seriously, who gets to make that call? I mean why does wanting a brutal illegal murderous occupation of your country to end make one a radical?
May 30th, 2007 at 9:23 amMmmm, Jeff Gannon!!
May 30th, 2007 at 9:30 am“The Taliban has merged its propaganda and field operations with those of the global al Qaeda network led by Osama bin Laden,†enabling the Taliban to “develop from a xenophobic, home-grown Islamist movement into a more outward looking force that is helping to advance al Qaeda’s global interests.â€
Or, because we’ve weaked both groups so much they had to merge to stay viable.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:43 amCurses,
Weakened. not weaked.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:43 amRe: The New York Times finds that some conservatives in Congress are “struggl[ing] to appease increasingly restless constituents†over Iraq. “I think this is the most expensive, stupidest thing ever done,†one Republican and former “staunch backer†of President Bush now says.
Say it isn’t so! I thought they were just “disturbed.”
May 30th, 2007 at 9:46 amTrip Master Monkey
The directive is nothing new, Clinton had the same thing. Not only that, experts say it is necessary. Here’s an article about the directive that puts it in better perspective.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:47 amhttp://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003310.php
#10-klyde I agree. We villlify any Iraqi leader who is against the U.S. and the occupation. They expect us to trust their assessments. I don’t trust anything they say. Not one single, solitary thing.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:48 amComment by squegeebooo — May 30, 2007 @ 9:43 am
Or maybe because they’ve both grown so much they’re bumping into each other?
Al Sadr has it figured out, and when the rest of the Shiites and Sunnis do likewise, our troops are going to be in a world of hurt.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:49 amConservatives are right to continue huddling against RINO Bush’s amnesty plan for Mexican continent-overthrowing aspirants.
Do everything you can, everything it takes to protect third-world bums from hurting the existence of a first-world powerhouse. Its deleterious effect are already becoming known in the southwest, especially California.
May 30th, 2007 at 9:51 amBased on what works?
May 30th, 2007 at 9:52 amdang it, no mor waterboarding
oh well, theres always mudboarding, sludgeboarding, slimeboarding, beerboarding, sandboarding, oilboarding…
May 30th, 2007 at 9:54 amOff the subject, yesterday, many bloggers sent me questions about re-marriage and divorce. Below is my response to DRxJ and any other bloggers who had a question about this subject.
No offense, but my wife is quite the Christian, and believe you me, she is definetly not subservent (Hell, being vertically challenged, she’s got more of a chip on her shoulder then Dick Cheney…and that’s what I love about her. We can be challenged about certain aspects of Christianity, and ,you know, talk about said subject. Example: She doesn’t feel her best friend should go to Hell for being Jewish. We discuss. but according to you, I should beat her for questioning? Uh, no. Not if I prize my jewels, if you know what I mean)
Comment by DRxJ — May 29, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
Once again DrxJ, she is not a christian. The definition of Christian is Christ-like. If she’s not following his guidelines, she is not being Christ-like, and, therefore, is not a christian. Two, I’ve made this statement before, she’s not your wife. She belongs to her ex-husband. She can only divorce her spouse, once she views him commiting adultery. Even then, she still can’t re-marry until he is deceased. Currently, she’s a adulteress and you’re a fornicator. You’re not married. Your relationship is equivalent to two individuals having an intimate relationship without being married. If you want to go to heaven, leave her now!!! I understand that she was abused, and no woman should have to deal with any form of abuse. But the bible states that she can separate from her spouse. They both need to attend marriage counseling to resolved his issue and mend their marriage. Find a single woman that hasn’t been married before. Listed below are scriptural texts for your to read:
Mattew 5:
31″It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[a] 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
Genesis 2:
20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam [a] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs [b] and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [c] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman, [d] ‘ for she was taken out of man.”24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
Malachi 2:
16 “I hate divorce,” says the LORD God of Israel, “and I hate a man’s covering himself [a] with violence as well as with his garment,” says the LORD Almighty. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith.
Matthew 19:
6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
Mark 10:
11He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”
Luke 16:
18″Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Romans 7:
2For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. 3So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man.
I Corinthians 7:
10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
Revelations 19:
May 30th, 2007 at 9:57 am9Then the angel said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”
I eat choad!!
May 30th, 2007 at 10:05 amBriseadh na Faire
Or maybe because they’ve both grown so much they’re bumping into each other?
Perhaps, either way, we’ve turned a corner.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:07 amWill someone please ban this off-topic offensive troll, please! I thought they knocked on your door so that you could turn them away. Get a clue, moron. I don’t believe in your fairy tale! Quit trying to hide your control issues behind someone named “Jesus Christ”!
May 30th, 2007 at 10:14 amJesus Christ!
(Yes, I reserve your idol as my worst profanities)
Comment by Bluedahlia
You know that God-haters really do end up in hell, right?
May 30th, 2007 at 10:20 amDaryll, you still haven’t answered these questions from yesterday:
If there is a Biblical commandment against rape, which one is it?
And if there is no commandment against rape, don’t you think there should be one?
May 30th, 2007 at 10:20 amLuckily, most people in the U.S. are Christian.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:21 amDoes anyone remember when the Indonesian earthquake hit that caused that aweful tsunami? Of course you do. But anyone see the footage of the helicopter flying over some of the small remote islands to check on the indiginous peoples who habitated there? They were alive and throwing spears at the helicopter.
That is how I see Daryll. He will defend to his death the belief of his “God”. While the rest of us use logic, reason, science and TRUE compassion. He willl be stuck throwing spears at helicopters……..
May 30th, 2007 at 10:22 amHis tent poll is up, his canvas is spread, Darryl is back preaching his sermon’s of dread…..Ignore the troll folk’s…Blessings, going to catch a bus..
May 30th, 2007 at 10:25 amYou know that God-haters really do end up in hell, right?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 30, 2007 @ 10:20 am
Hell, and where is that? Somewhere South of Gitmo, maybe? Seriously…..
And I don’t hate God, that would mean that I acknowledge there is one. I hate people pushing ANYTHING on someone else. TROLLer
May 30th, 2007 at 10:25 amWell I certainly hope those three people and thirty companies are darned ashamed of themselves.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:27 amHow much more oil is left in Iraq?
Newt Gringo:
There is at least a commandment against rape outside of marriage.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:27 amWill someone please ban this off-topic offensive troll, please!
Comment by Bluedahlia — May 30, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Off topic on the daily OPEN THREAD
Bwa Ha ha ha ha
May 30th, 2007 at 10:28 amComment by Bluedahlia
Sorry, but you’re showing every sympton of denial, fool. God is watching you ridicule him.
The system name is CompTROLLER V-1. Your name (you should correct) is bluegodhater.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:30 amDaryll, you still haven’t answered these questions from yesterday:
If there is a Biblical commandment against rape, which one is it?
And if there is no commandment against rape, don’t you think there should be one?
Comment by Newt Gringo — May 30, 2007 @ 10:20 am
There are two commandments that cover this issue. Thou shalt not fornicate, and thou shalt not covet thy neighbors things.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:32 am“And I don’t hate God, that would mean that I acknowledge there is one.”
-Comment by Bluedahlia
You are braindead. It’s official.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:34 amCO2 Emissions Down; Environmentalist Unemployment Up
Sad news for the global warming crowd, as US emissions of CO2 have actually dropped 1.3% in 2006, despite having an economy that grew 3.3% during the same year.
Which, I guess, means that Bush has saved the planet.
But what other effects will this have? I predict thusly:
——————————————————————————–
* President Bush scraps plans for emergency Presidential escape rocket to Mars
* Environmentalists stop talking about “climate change” and start talking about “fries with that”.
* Dole company abandons Alaskan pineapple plantation complex.
* Al Gore wept.
* Skyrocketing sales of “I Told You So” T-shirts to climate change deniers.
* “Kyoto” once again only notable for being an anagram of “Tokyo”.
* Powerful computers used to model world climate switched to BitTorrenting pirated MP3’s.
* South American rainforest ecosystems collapse as trees succumb to oxygen poisoning.
* New York Times headline: “Bush Fails to Prevent Global Temperature Stagnation Crisis”.
* Sheryl Crow back to twirling Charmin around her hand like spaghetti on a fork.
——————————————————————————–
As for me, it’s all about the running over hippies with my SUV.
Some things never change.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:34 amWarning Warning Warning!!! Liberals trying to discuss faith!!
May 30th, 2007 at 10:35 amHow is anything official in a freakin’ message board? Get out of your fantasy, CompTROLLER V-1, and quit talking about fictitious things like fairies and God.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:36 amWhy doesn’t the lousy United Nations deal with Darfur instead of coming to the President and whining about it?
Democrats want to outsource our military to the UN, perhaps they should prove themselves up to the job.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:37 amIt looks like TP does not like to discuss the problems of Amnesty?
May 30th, 2007 at 10:38 amYou are braindead. It’s official.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
You believe in an invisible sky fairy, and you’re calling someone else braindead?
That’s funny.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:42 amWhen Bush was setting up the torture rules he asked that bold neo-con question What would Herod do? So suspected terrorists will now be scourged and crowned with thorns and mocked and forced to carry heavy beams uphill.
Daryll, what to make of Luke 20:27-40? It would seem we could do without marriage altogether if we were like angels. But we do have marriage because we’re not. And even so, God allows us to divorce because we are not perfect. You seem to want to quote one side of the argument, but not the other. When does Jesus say “He who is without sin may cast the first stone”? Jesus not only forgives adultery, but will forgive it over and over and over again. Throughout the Gospels there’s a balance between seeking the ideal and forgiving the real. That’s what’s so depressing about your rants, you just don’t get the cryptic and riddling nature of Jesus’ teachings. You, Daryll, are a Pharisee; read Matthew 23:1-36 and Woe to you, hypocrite!
May 30th, 2007 at 10:43 amMore than a month after the Office of Special Counsel announced it will establish a task force to mount a government-wide investigation of alleged violations of the law that limits political activity in federal agencies, the group’s formation remains in the preliminary stages.
Any sort of accountability in this administration will have to be forced.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:43 amComment by Barbarian
You don’t expect me to accept your third-world hell-hole bummish talking points, do you?
Why don’t you go back to your routine of advocating complete amnesty for dirty illegal aliens? You’re SO helping America. Loser.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:44 amThe New York Times finds that some conservatives in Congress are “struggl[ing] to appease increasingly restless constituents†over Iraq. “I think this is the most expensive, stupidest thing ever done,†one Republican and former “staunch backer†of President Bush now says.
He says after cheering for the start of the war four years ago.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:45 amUnder increasing pressure from Democrats in Congress to increase the number of Iraqi refugees allowed into the U.S., the Department of Homeland Security says it has finally approved a process to weed out potential terrorists and admit as many as 7,000 Iraqis by Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year.
I’m not holding my breath on this one.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:45 amBush scolded opponents of the immigration reform legislation, saying they “haven’t read the bill†and are offering “empty political rhetoric.†Conservatives bristled at his remarks. “I don’t think name-calling does any good at this point,†said David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union. “No yelling and screaming by the administration is going to change our minds,†said another conservative.
Chipping away at the base…..
May 30th, 2007 at 10:46 am#29 Sharon,
May 30th, 2007 at 10:46 amSpot on! I will heed your intelligent advice. Maybe go work on finishing my Zen garden. Have a pleasant day, and thanks!
Comment by Saywho
Discuss the problems of Amnesty? They like happy talk, despite the fact that this brand new crime source is affecting people even in my own town. However, none of that matters, they will tell you.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:47 amDarryl, If we were looking for a church it wouldn’t be yours. Have I told you lately where to put your bible? You know that special place you think of when you dream of other men.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:48 amYou know that God-haters really do end up in hell, right?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
You know that bullies really do end up in hell, right?
May 30th, 2007 at 10:49 am#35
Very poor response.
The first one isn’t even a commandment. You just made that up.
The second doesn’t even mention rape. You just made that up too. And besides, it’s way too vague. It says not to desire anything that my neighbor has. So if my neighbor is having a moving sale, and wants to get rid of his brand new lawn mower instead of taking it with him, I’m not allowed to wish to own my neighbor’s lawn mower?
May 30th, 2007 at 10:49 amLuckily, most people in the U.S. are Christian.
Comment by Jake
But not your type of fundamentalist Christian, thank god!
May 30th, 2007 at 10:50 amLibs, here’s another scriptural text that covers how sin can prevent you from entering the kingdom of God. Do you fall under one of these sinful categories?
I Corinthians 6:
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:50 amHe says after cheering for the start of the war four years ago.
Sounds like Hanoi Kerry, voting to send our troops to war then voting against funding in the field.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:50 amAw, David Keene says “I don’t think name-calling does any good at this point.†Funny, he seemed to be okay with it when it was other people getting yelled at. When will this administrations John Dean show up? America is waiting.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:51 amComment by Saywho
Discuss the problems of Amnesty? They like happy talk, despite the fact that this brand new crime source is affecting people even in my own town. However, none of that matters, they will tell you.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 30, 2007 @ 10:47 am
They keep on editing the links and facts that I post out on this thread regarding the INVASION and WAR. Hence this site has an adjenda that is anti constutional!
May 30th, 2007 at 10:51 amAnd I don’t hate God, that would mean that I acknowledge there is one. I hate people pushing ANYTHING on someone else. TROLLer
You mean like liberal tax policy?
May 30th, 2007 at 10:51 amWhen I attend my lutheran church, the message is, and has always been God knows we are imperfect. His son Jesus was sent to earth to die for out sins, so that we could receive forgiveness. I don’t think it means we have carte blanche to do any bad act we want too, but I do think it allows us to be forgiven.
Daryll you like so many fundamentalist do the same thing, quote specific passages of religious text to back up your argument, while ignoring other parts. Please try some critical thinking, it really does help.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:54 amOn the Raw Story web site is the developing story that the Neocons want the U.S. to bomb Iran. This is unconscionable and hopefully illegal. Is there some law against lobbying for war? This is beyond any First Amendment right. This is warmongering. Any help out there to prosecute these people?
May 30th, 2007 at 10:57 amComment by Shane
You have a premier history of bullying on this board, so you’re only dousing yourself.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:57 amComment by Saywho
Discuss the problems of Amnesty? They like happy talk, despite the fact that this brand new crime source is affecting people even in my own town. However, none of that matters, they will tell you.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 30, 2007 @ 10:47 am
This site has a hidden agenda regarding amnesty!
May 30th, 2007 at 10:57 amYou believe in an invisible sky fairy, and you’re calling someone else braindead?
That’s funny.
Comment by Zooey
If CompTROLLER V-1, Jake, Patrick1, Darryl and the others will be in heaven, it will feel like hell anyway.
May 30th, 2007 at 10:59 amDemocrats want to outsource our military to the UN, perhaps they should prove themselves up to the job.
Comment by m12 — May 30, 2007 @ 10:37 am
And Bush is allowing the outsourcing of 120 border patrol agents by DynCorp to go to Iraq and train the Iraqis how to guard their own border.
I’m sure this is OK with you.
Bush is also removing 6000 National Guard troops from the southern border and replacing them with newly hired border patrol agents, but only 350 have been hired.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:00 amDaryll,
If a woman has been raped, has she sinned?
May 30th, 2007 at 11:01 amDaryll
So, thiefs won’t go to heaven?
Quick, who is the only person in the Bible who was specifically told that he would be with Jesus in heaven that very day?….tick, tick, tick, time’s up. The answer is the thief who was crucified with Jesus. So, is Jesus lying or is your interpretation of I Corinthians 6 incorrect?
BTW, I Corinthians 6 could not have originally included the phrase “homosexual offenders” because the term “homosexual” did not exist before 1890’s.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:01 amBTW, I Corinthians 6 could not have originally included the phrase “homosexual offenders†because the term “homosexual†did not exist before 1890’s.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)
PLC,
After Daryll’s stunning insults to DRxJ’s wife, and general idiocy, he’s in dire need of a severe slap down.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:08 amComment by Zooey
Invisible sky fairy? Should the Government have quarantined you as well?
Lefty contagious indoctrination, that’s the way to go!
That’s why lefty politics make California, Massachusetts, etc., such liveable, non-threatning places to live.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:09 amDaryll, what to make of Luke 20:27-40? It would seem we could do without marriage altogether if we were like angels. But we do have marriage because we’re not. And even so, God allows us to divorce because we are not perfect. You seem to want to quote one side of the argument, but not the other. When does Jesus say “He who is without sin may cast the first stone� Jesus not only forgives adultery, but will forgive it over and over and over again. Throughout the Gospels there’s a balance between seeking the ideal and forgiving the real. That’s what’s so depressing about your rants, you just don’t get the cryptic and riddling nature of Jesus’ teachings. You, Daryll, are a Pharisee; read Matthew 23:1-36 and Woe to you, hypocrite!
Comment by david — May 30, 2007 @ 10:43 am
david, Paul said that he would rather that we be celebant, but if you have sexual lust than he would rather that you marry. I listed the following scriptures against divorce. Cease creating your philosophies. It states withing the bible that it is dangerous to alter/add to the word of God. Jesus only supports divorce if you catch your spouse committing an adulterous act. But you still can’t re-marry another woman until your spouse is dead. Per the scriptures listed, you’re bound to your spouse till death. Remember the vows, “To death do us part?” Please give me a scriptue where Jesus stated that re-marriage is supported. Also, listed below are scriptures on forgiveness. Jesus will only forgive if you sincerely repent, which means you truthfully refrain from commiting that specific sin. We’re not perfect, but as long as you mean it, he will forgive you.
For if you forgive people their trespasses [their reckless and willful sins, leaving them, letting them go, and giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you. Matthew 6: 14
If My people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves, pray, seek, crave, and require of necessity My face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7: 14
May 30th, 2007 at 11:10 amShane
If CompTROLLER V-1, Jake, Patrick1, Darryl and the others will be in heaven, it will feel like hell anyway.
I’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints – The sinners are much more fun?
May 30th, 2007 at 11:12 am“…he’s in dire need of a severe slap down.”
Comment by Zooey
Another liberal standard: advocate violence against those who seek to set the record straight.
Are you SURE that we should only be keeping on eye on Republicans?
May 30th, 2007 at 11:14 am#35
Very poor response.
The first one isn’t even a commandment. You just made that up.
The second doesn’t even mention rape. You just made that up too. And besides, it’s way too vague. It says not to desire anything that my neighbor has. So if my neighbor is having a moving sale, and wants to get rid of his brand new lawn mower instead of taking it with him, I’m not allowed to wish to own my neighbor’s lawn mower?
Comment by Newt Gringo — May 30, 2007 @ 10:49 am
It’s not a commandment, but it’s widely covered in the bible. Also, no, you cannot covet thy neighbors lawn mower. Be thankful for everything that you currently have.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:16 amDarryl, you need to change your login to “clanging cymbal”.
Not seeing a lot of love, Darryl, just a lot of judgment.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:18 amNewt, the prohibitions against rape are in Deuteronomy 22. I can understand why Daryll avoids this. It’s obviously case law and specific to the culture of 2500 years ago. (Although I have a Greek friend you said showing the wedding night bedsheets was still a custom in rurals areas as recently as 25 years ago.)
Daryll, like many in the Bush WH, has a problem with interpreting Law. He gets his knickers in a knot over things that are not a big deal. The Bushies don’t understand principles that govern society. They think, if they don’t get caught, it ain’t illegal. And that the Law doesn’t apply to them or should be interpreted literally –even when that’s absurd.
Daryll, if you want to live by your own nutty interpretation of the Bible, fine. Do it in a closet –just as Jesus said you should. But don’t rail against those of us who don’t follow your Way. And you really can’t say who will be saved and who damned; it’s not the Day of Judgement yet. And what’s more, given the tale of the Prodigal Son, I’d say you may be very p!ssed off when you see who is saved.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:18 amDaryll,
If a woman has been raped, has she sinned?
Comment by Zooey — May 30, 2007 @ 11:01 am
No, because it’s not consensual.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:18 amLibs, here’s another scriptural text that covers how sin can prevent you from entering the kingdom of God. Do you fall under one of these sinful categories?
I Corinthians 6:
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Comment by Daryll — May 30, 2007 @ 10:50 am
Gosh, Daryll, which version of the Bible are you using?
Seems your version has been slightly reworded from the original translation. I do believe there is a passage in the Bible that speaks against this.
Let’s look at “homosexual offenders” as referenced in your Bible. The version I read, the King James version, uses “effeminate” instead.
Now…looking up the word effeminate at dictionary.com turns up nary a reference to homosexual offender.
It seems that either you, or your version of the Bible, has changed the wording to fit your position on certain earthly issues.
How convenient.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:19 amIf a woman has been raped, has she sinned?
You’re thinking of Islam, where rape victims get stoned.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:20 amGod Daryll.
Jesus Daryll.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:25 amAgain, for Daryll’s edification, I shall post a link to Dr Rev Cheri DiNovo’s answer to the question Does the Bible condemn homosexuality?
May 30th, 2007 at 11:29 amYou’re thinking of Islam, where rape victims get stoned.
Comment by m12
No, I’m not.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:33 amDaryll
So, thiefs won’t go to heaven?
Quick, who is the only person in the Bible who was specifically told that he would be with Jesus in heaven that very day?….tick, tick, tick, time’s up. The answer is the thief who was crucified with Jesus. So, is Jesus lying or is your interpretation of I Corinthians 6 incorrect?
BTW, I Corinthians 6 could not have originally included the phrase “homosexual offenders†because the term “homosexual†did not exist before 1890’s.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) — May 30, 2007 @ 11:01 am
The thief asked for God’s forgiveness and asked to go with the him to see the father. “Forgiveness”. Also, the original term used was effeminate. Here’s the definition for the term effeminate: an offensive term used to describe a man whose behavior, appearance, or speech is considered to be similar to that traditionally associated with women or girls.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:33 amInvisible sky fairy? Should the Government have quarantined you as well?
Lefty contagious indoctrination, that’s the way to go!
That’s why lefty politics make California, Massachusetts, etc., such liveable, non-threatning places to live.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
You’d support government quarantine, wouldn’t you?
I have lived in California several times over the course of my life — including downtown Oakland — and was never the victim of a crime of any sort.
I’m sure you’re sorry to hear that.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:36 amPLC,
After Daryll’s stunning insults to DRxJ’s wife, and general idiocy, he’s in dire need of a severe slap down.
Comment by Zooey — May 30, 2007 @ 11:08 am
It’s not an insult. It’s a fact. The bible is sharp as a two edge sword. It is used to cut flesh (sin). Also, DRxJ has no wife. Per biblical guidelines, they aren’t married.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:36 amIt’s not an insult. It’s a fact. The bible is sharp as a two edge sword. It is used to cut flesh (sin). Also, DRxJ has no wife. Per biblical guidelines, they aren’t married.
Comment by Daryll
It’s not your place to say if it’s insulting — since you are the person insulting the other.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:38 amDaryll, you’re really on fire here today. Whatsa matter, not getting any?
May 30th, 2007 at 11:40 amI don’t believe in your religion. I don’t ask you to believe in mine. I don’t threaten you with mine. Your religion is between you and whatever.
Your bible must be severely dented from all the thumping today.
Not seeing a lot of love, Darryl, just a lot of judgment.
Comment by gummitch — May 30, 2007 @ 11:18 am
I’m giving you scriptural texts to assist you in redeeming your soul. I do this because I love you my brother/sister. I want to see you in heaven with me so that scripture does not pertain to me.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:40 amOh, yeah, Daryll, go fu(k your biblical guidelines.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:40 amComment by Zooey
You happened to get away, so other’s who’ve been victims don’t matter? When was the last time you were in California, by the way?
Cherry-picking, always convenient….
I know that stats. You obviously don’t care to hear them.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:44 amIt’s not your place to say if it’s insulting — since you are the person insulting the other.
Comment by Zooey — May 30, 2007 @ 11:38 am
So your stating that DRxJ believes that God’s words are insulting. Does he hate God?
May 30th, 2007 at 11:44 am“It’s not your place to say if it’s insulting — since you are the person insulting the other.”
-Comment by Zooey
Well, then it’s not your place to say a host of things on this comment board.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:45 amComment by CompTROLLER V-1
Correction to Comment #89: I know THE stats.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:47 amWell, then it’s not your place to say a host of things on this comment board.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Make sure you include yourself in that.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:51 amToo funny Daryll. guess what of those who you are posting to, several don’t believe they need to redeem their souls, Several like me, have a radically different view of faith. I am sorry you have chosen to live you life in fear and desperation, but that is your decision. Please do not breakdown and cry when you realize how misplaced your efforts are.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:51 amDaryll, the thief does not asked to be forgiven, but merely to be remembered. Indeed, the story of the philosophical thief is only in Luke and the Gospel of Peter. And I think what happens in the Gospel of Peter is more OT when discussing torture.
Here, the thoughtful and merciful criminal is not saved, but dies in agony for having questioned the actions of the lawful authority.
Consider this as happening in Gitmo. Three prisoners being tortured and two admit to being rebels but one says the third is innocent. And, for his protest, he is treated to even greater pain and suffering. Here is the Cheney way. It’s the way of the Roman legion. Not the way of Christ.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:52 amYou happened to get away, so other’s who’ve been victims don’t matter? When was the last time you were in California, by the way?
No one was chasing me. Of course others matter. I’m not the one supporting and advocating the deaths of others.
Try not to be so fearful.
Cherry-picking, always convenient….
I know that stats. You obviously don’t care to hear them.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
You keep your stats, I’ll go with personal experience.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:55 amI’m giving you scriptural texts to assist you in redeeming your soul. I do this because I love you my brother/sister. I want to see you in heaven with me so that scripture does not pertain to me.
Comment by Daryll
I sure hope this is a namejacking, because I’d hate to think that Daryll believed that some scriptures only apply to other people.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:57 amSo your stating that DRxJ believes that God’s words are insulting. Does he hate God?
Comment by Daryll
Obviously I can’t speak for DRxJ — and neither can you. I think it is safe to say that DRxJ is more Christ-like than you could ever dream of being.
Mind your own business, Daryll.
May 30th, 2007 at 11:57 amDaryll
YOU have no idea what is in peoples’ hearts, whether they have or continue to ask God’s forgiveness, or if God HAS forgiven them. Yet, you come on here and condemn others to hell as if YOU are God. The Bible is full of religious leaders who committed murder (Moses), conspiracy to commit murder (David and Paul), and other clear sins/crimes. Yet, God accepted them, loved them. THAT is what being “Christ-like” is about – love. Not judging, condemning, hating, persecuting, or oppressing. I ask you again, when are you going to “shake off the dust from your sandals” and leave the TP community? Or at least stop trying to jam your dogma down our throats when you come to visit?
May 30th, 2007 at 12:01 pmDaryll, you do know Gino Jennings leads a tiny sect. It’s not mainstream Christianity. But you have to understand that he’s taken The Bible, a work of centuries of tradition and interpretation, and treated it as a self-help book. It’s not. Like any work of ancient wisdom, the books of the Bible must be approached with care and one must ask What does it mean? And someone such as Gino Jennings, who has not training in theology, can only trust to his own charisma to lead his congregation. His weakness is when he must deal with history and language and context. When this happens Jennings falls far below the meanest Rabbi or Episcopalian curate. He just doesn’t know what he’s talking about half the time. And smashing plaster statutes of the Blessed Virgin Mary might make good TV, but it really doesn’t help to explain the mystery of the divine.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:17 pmDaryll, stop pointing to the sawdust in the eyes of others when you’ve a 2×4 stuck in your own.
You think everyone who doesn’t believe what you believe will go to Hell. Well, there are millions who think if you don’t believe what they do that you’ll go to Hell. It’s a Mexican stand-off.
What does it all mean? Well, who cares who has sex with whom? That’s only important in the context of the Old Testament because it’s a society held together by blood lines. The Biblical references to homosexuality are nearly all directed at Temple prostitutes of the non-Jewish religions. It has nothing to do with same-sex marriage.
And if you feel you can’t pick and choose scripture, what are you gonna do about Leviticus and Deuteronomy? Plenty of laws there that nobody –even you– obeys any more. Even devout Jews don’t adhere to half the Laws there. They have been deemed obsolete. They texts are kept, but they are read to divine the principle behind the restrictions. And that requires considerable meditation.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:27 pm“She belongs to her ex-husband.” – St Darryl on someone elses wife
“There are two commandments that cover this issue. Thou shalt not fornicate, and thou shalt not covet thy neighbors things.” – St Darryl on the subject of raping other people’s wives.
Do you own your wife, St. Darryl? How positively medieval of you, you mysogynist bastard.
May 30th, 2007 at 12:55 pmHere’s the definition for the term effeminate: an offensive term used to describe a man whose behavior, appearance, or speech is considered to be similar to that traditionally associated with women or girls.
Comment by Daryll — May 30, 2007 @ 11:33 am
Hey Daryll…
Who says “effeminate” is an offensive term? You? Can you back that up?
What dictionary are you using? Is there an online version? Can you provide a link to it?
You still haven’t answered my question regarding what version of the Bible you are quoting from.
That’s quite a stretch to equate “effeminate” to “homosexuality.”
So if I overhear a man who has a voice like a woman, that automatically means he is a homosexual? If a man has large breasts or small hands, two traits normally associated with women, does that mean he is a homosexual? If a man cries at something sad, like a scene in a movie, which is something that only a woman would normally do, does that mean he is a homosexual?
These situations pretty much cover your description of a homosexual as it relates to speech, appearance, or behavior.
Rudy Giuliani once dressed up like a woman; this meets one criteria of your description of a homosexual. Can we assume he is a homosexual who just hasn’t come out of the closet yet?
May 30th, 2007 at 12:58 pmDaryll’s wife better submit to him like the Bible says she should, or she’s just being a Jezebel who worships Collie.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:30 pmYou have a premier history of bullying on this board, so you’re only dousing yourself.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Duh, but I wasn’t condemning others to hell, you were. Keep up, PoopTroller V-1.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:32 pmAfter Daryll’s stunning insults to DRxJ’s wife, and general idiocy, he’s in dire need of a severe slap down.
Comment by Zooey
Problem is Daryll LIKES getting slapped by big strong men. That’s why he’s learned to be so annoying, to get his jollies quicker.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:35 pmI’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints – The sinners are much more fun?
Comment by squegeebooo
We’ll save you a seat by us squiggy, if all those hypocrites make it to heaven, we will too.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:38 pmIt’s not an insult. It’s a fact. The bible is sharp as a two edge sword. It is used to cut flesh (sin). Also, DRxJ has no wife. Per biblical guidelines, they aren’t married.
Comment by Daryll
And what if an impotent man like you is unable to consummate the marriage. Is he married then in the bible or in the courts?
May 30th, 2007 at 1:41 pmI wonder if Darryl considers that it is possible to rape one’s own wife?
May 30th, 2007 at 1:45 pmWhere’s Jake? He knows a lot about rape. Come on Jakey, crack us a funny rape gag.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI wonder if Darryl considers that it is possible to rape one’s own wife?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Property rights….
May 30th, 2007 at 1:48 pmDaryll
The bible is sharp as a two edge sword.
My family bible is more blunt than sharp. Blunt like a book.
Per biblical guidelines, they aren’t married.
Per state guidelines they are. Now stop hating, even I find some of these comments in bad taste, and it’s me for frick sake.
Shane
May 30th, 2007 at 2:10 pmWe’ll save you a seat by us squiggy
Thanks.
Squeegy,
Are you feeling alright? :-)
May 30th, 2007 at 2:13 pmAre you feeling alright? :-)
What can I say, Even I have a line. It’s pretty far out compared to most peoples, but its there.
May 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm