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Report: In Meeting, ‘Wild-Eyed’ Bush Thumped Chest While Repeating ‘I Am The President!’

bushface.jpgGeorgie Anne Geyer writes today in the Dallas Morning News about President Bush’s strange behavior during a recent meeting with “[f]riends of his from Texas.”

But by all reports, President Bush is more convinced than ever of his righteousness.

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

This is the second time in recent weeks that accounts have surfaced of Bush lashing out or “ranting” in private meetings when responding to criticism of his Iraq policy. Chris Nelson of the Nelson Report offered a similar account earlier this month:

[S]ome big money players up from Texas recently paid a visit to their friend in the White House. The story goes that they got out exactly one question, and the rest of the meeting consisted of The President in an extended whine, a rant, actually, about no one understands him, the critics are all messed up, if only people would see what he’s doing things would be OK…etc., etc. This is called a “bunker mentality” and it’s not attractive when a friend does it. When the friend is the President of the United States, it can be downright dangerous. Apparently the Texas friends were suitably appalled, hence the story now in circulation.

Like the tearful House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), Bush needs to channel his bottled up emotions towards a more worthy end — winding down the war in Iraq rather than defending the status quo.

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643 Responses to “Report: In Meeting, ‘Wild-Eyed’ Bush Thumped Chest While Repeating ‘I Am The President!’”

  1. fatkat says:

    Is this a surprise! Chimps act in this manner from time to time! acts like a chimp, looks like a chimp and walks like a chimp…so IT must be a chimp!

    The evolution is a pond us, Darwin is soooo right!


  2. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Jesus tap-dancing Christ.

    Get this lunatic out of office NOW, before he sets the world on fire.


  3. Jake says:

    Well, he IS the President, right? At least until January 20, 2009 (or earlier if Pelosi ever find a table ; )


  4. Pete Bogs says:

    He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

    I am seeing Martin Sheen as the president in The Dead Zone with these words… he’s approaching that level of madness…


  5. mc says:

    chimpy in action. he is regressing….


  6. margaret says:

    How odd – I just finished typing that Bush’s facial expression was “very strange” on the morning of 9/11 (see 15 mins. with Bush thread) and then I refresh the screen and voila – a story about Bush’s “strange behavior”.

    Hmmmmmm….


  7. JPV says:

    He will probably become even more and more unhinged over the next few months.


  8. Royston Vasey says:

    Tripe
    Tripe is the name commonly given to the stomach tissue of ruminant animals. Bovines have four stomachs through which their food undergoes different stages of digestion.

    From the first, the rumen, comes the “blanket” tripe, so named because of its “pile”. It varies in thickness and is often accompanied with a layer of fat which needs to be removed.

    The second stomach, the reticulum, produces “honeycomb” tripe, generally preferred by cooks because it keeps its shape during cooking and also because it holds, on its textured surface, the sauce in which it is cooked.

    Tripe from the third stomach, the omasum, is known as “bible”, “book” or “seam” tripe.

    Tripe from the fourth stomach, the abomasum, produces “reed tripe”-glandular tripe and is rarely used.
    Tripe is almost always cleaned, bleached and par-cooked before it appears in butcher shops.


  9. justice says:

    He needs to RESIGN NOW


  10. senilebiker says:

    Seems to be a Captain Queeg Moment.


  11. nanlichi says:

    God bless the Queeg!


  12. Jim Wolf359 says:

    I am Der Furher!!


  13. raynman says:

    Reminds me of a small child that throws a tantrum when the tide comes in and washes away their sand castle


  14. Shane says:

    Well, he IS the President, right? At least until January 20, 2009 (or earlier if Pelosi ever find a table ; )

    Comment by Jake

    And on that day he won’t be president but you’ll still be a neocon flunkie spewing for Rove and his new protege.


  15. mongo says:

    “Well, he IS the President, right?

    Comment by Jake”

    Sure he is. And I think it’s wonderful that being in that role has given him such confidence and the courage of his convictions that he doesn’t feel he has to, oh I don’t know, do something outrageous like pound his chest and proclaim how “he’s the president.”

    Oh wait.


  16. Angry One says:

    On Wednesday, President Bush once again turned to AIDS for air cover in the battle for global opinion. This time, Bush is trying to deflect criticism of American global warming policy in advance of next week’s G8 summit. In 2003, of course, his problem was the looming Iraq war.

    For the details, see:
    “Bush’s AIDS PR Scam.”


  17. Patrick1 says:

    He should have jacked-off in the sink instead.


  18. Flaco says:

    TP you are the best at creating these catchy headlines.

    The headlines are like a big pile of shit that draw in the TP flies.


  19. Zooey says:

    This crap is really getting scary.


  20. Shane says:

    Where were his handlers to keep him under control. I know he has them because Lewis Black talks about them. Obviously he needs them around him full time because he is entirely delusional.


  21. trueblue says:

    Can we deem him insane and relieve him of his duties now?

    The guy is nuts.


  22. Vance says:

    Is this not alcoholic behavior? This stooge is the presidential version of Lohan.


  23. Ben Dover says:

    Maybe during his next self-congratulatory rant one of Chimpy’s cranial arteries will disintegrate under all the pressure. That assumes, of course, there is gray matter in his cranium to cause the pressure. Just speculation of course.


  24. mongo says:

    Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!”

    I know, we all find it hard to believe too.


  25. Jane Goodall says:

    classic display behavior from a yellowback male


  26. Robert says:

    Coo Coo for President
    Coo Coo for President


  27. Uosdwis says:

    S-O-C-I-O-P-A-T-H. He meets and exceeds the definition in the DSM-IV. He’s clinically insane. He’s about as bad as Seinfeld’s “The Wiz.” And yet he has “doctors” from Bethesda or (probably not any more) Walter Reed give him a “checkup” every year?


  28. Zooey says:

    Since these stories are getting out, the King’s friends are obviously very concerned.

    Speaker Pelosi, we have a situation here….


  29. Jake says:

    justice:

    Why do you think Bush needs to “RESIGN NOW”? Because some described him as “wild-eyed” and thumping his chest? You’ve never read about LBJ in private, have you?


  30. Jake says:

    Someone get Zooey her bankie.


  31. pgw says:

    maybe he was choking on a pretzel. again.


  32. Candyce says:

    That whole commentary really is frightening. Not just the behavior, but this:

    “He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

    I was pondering this very thing this morning. Would our next president, even a Democrat, be able to leave entirely? Guess not.


  33. Thad says:

    Unsourced, so I’m going to take it with a grain of salt.

    Still, Jonathan Shwarz makes an interesting comparison between this report and Woodward and Bernstein’s description of Nixon in The Final Days ( http://thismodernworld.com/3777 ).


  34. Dumb_Fox says:

    Not only is he a Chimp, but he also has a tiny pen!s.


  35. nanlichi says:

    Poor, poor pitiful me.

    The psycopath pres has some wires touching. Dead ground short it looks like.

    Good to see you are still picking KKKarl’s dingleberries out of your teeth Flacoputo, we missed you around here. Or were you just posting under another alias?

    chupalaverga maricón.


  36. MAF54 says:

    He is the commander-in-chief and we (and you) will obey him. Otherwise you’re traitorous scum. No matter who occupies WH next should not be allowed to tear down the accomplishments of the current administration. Yes Mr. President. Build those bases, set up a permanent presence and make such enemies that we can never retreat from the region. I stand by you.


  37. Tom says:

    There’s no surprise here. GDumbya has acted like this during his whole presi-duncy, no doubt. The only difference is that news is being leaked out about it now from some of the 28-percenters who are having second thoughts about the moron . . . finally.

    The described behavior is typical of an active alcoholic like GDumbya — feelings of persecution, resentments, ego and inability to deal with reality.

    GDumbya’s just been getting deep into the Jack Daniels again. That’s all it is. Now move along — there’s nothing to see here.


  38. KRank says:

    Well, he IS the President, right? At least until January 20, 2009 (or earlier if Pelosi ever find a table ; )

    Comment by Jake — May 31, 2007 @ 2:39 pm

    Oh, okay, thanks for putting things in perspective, Jake.

    Hear that people? The president is NOT losing it. His behavior is NOT AT ALL strange or disconcerting because he’s just saying something that’s true. the fact that he’s the de facto leader of the free world, has miscaluclated so badly that there’s no way out of the mess he’s created and is still acting like a spoiled toddler is NOTHING TO GET ALARMED ABOUT.

    Jake says so.


  39. Tobey Tall says:

    American superpower or is it planet of the apes


  40. km4 says:

    > Bush needs to channel his bottled up emotions towards a more worthy end

    You mean like clearing brush on his fake ranch which is about all this asshat is qualified to do.


  41. BottomBoy says:

    So what? He’s a passionate guy who believes in his vision and legacy.

    Once again you’re reading too much into this.


  42. Ryan Pratt says:

    Wow… that is crazy. See some more Bush lists at:

    http://www.ListAfterList.com

    It is a great new site where YOU can create and find lists about anything and everything!


  43. mongo says:

    “Why do you think Bush needs to “RESIGN NOW”? Because some described him as “wild-eyed” and thumping his chest? You’ve never read about LBJ in private, have you?

    Comment by Jake”

    Yeah you’re right. And LBJ did such a great job himself with that war *he* was intent on fighting.

    Oh yeah, I remember he wised up and took it upon himself to stop inflicting himself on the American public before his second term.

    Do you think bush would help us all out retroactively?

    Just asking.


  44. Ryan Pratt says:

    ListAfterList.com is a great place to find quotes and other lists of situations like this!


  45. Jeff says:

    This story sounds either completely fabricated or grossly exaggerated.
    Bush would never admit that he was setting up Iraq so that his successor “could not get out of our country’s destiny”.

    Anyone agree?


  46. Oversight is a Bitch. says:

    WHO VOTED THIS IDIOT INTO OFFICE?? Oh right, the Supreme Court.


  47. Flaco says:

    nan
    I’m back pendejo.
    If you would stop ripping my underwear off to suck me I could post more often.


  48. Shuichi says:

    LOL! Well it does seem ape like. Monkeys beat their chest and scream when they try to assert authoritay! Get this f’ing baffoon outta office.


  49. Shane says:

    The headlines are like a big pile of shit that draw in the TP flies.

    Comment by Flaco

    Gee Flako – apparently that big pile of shit drew you right in. But aren’t you more of a dung beetle?


  50. Geekfather says:

    I say it again… it is OBSCENE how far we’ve let this go.


  51. BottomBoy says:

    Zooey: What do you find so scary? He’ll be out of office in 2009. It is, of course, a presidential prerogative to dig us in so deep into Iraq that the next president will have difficulties in extraditing him/herself.


  52. bs says:

    Sociopathy

    Antisocial Personality Disorder is also known as psychopathy or sociopathy. Individuals with this disorder have little regard for the feeling and welfare of others. As a clinical diagnosis it is usually limited to those over age 18. It can be diagnosed in younger people if the they commit isolated antisocial acts and do not show signs of another mental disorder.

    Antisocial Personality Disorder is chronic, beginning in adolescence and continuing throughout adulthood. There are ten general symptoms:

    not learning from experience
    no sense of responsibility
    inability to form meaningful relationships
    inability to control impulses
    lack of moral sense
    chronically antisocial behavior
    no change in behavior after punishment
    emotional immaturity
    lack of guilt
    self-centeredness
    People with this disorder may exhibit criminal behavior. They may not work. If they do work, they are frequently absent or may quit suddenly. They do not consider other people’s wishes, welfare or rights. They can be manipulative and may lie to gain personal pleasure or profit. They may default on loans, fail to provide child support, or fail to care for their dependents adequately. High risk sexual behavior and substance abuse are common. Impulsiveness, failure to plan ahead, aggressiveness, irritability, irresponsibility, and a reckless disregard for their own safety and the safety of others are traits of the antisocial personality.

    Socioeconomic status, gender, and genetic factors play a role. Males are more likely to be antisocial than females. Those from lower socioeconomic groups are more susceptible. A family history of the disorder puts one at higher risk.

    There are many theories about the cause of Antisocial Personality Disorder including experiencing neglectful parenting as a child, low levels of certain neurotransmitters in the brain, and belief that antisocial behavior is justified because of difficult circumstances. Psychotherapy, group therapy, and family therapy are common treatments. The effects of medical treatment are inconclusive. Unfortunately, most people with Antisocial Personality Disorder reject treatment. Therefore, recovery rates are low.


  53. Zooey says:

    Someone get Zooey her bankie.
    Comment by Jake

    Somebody wipe the drool off Jake’s chin.


  54. Del Capslock says:

    I’ve been thinking lately that a huge shortcoming of our constitution is that there is not a provision to remove a President for incompetence (other than every four years). I know it would take a lot of wrangling about what defines incompetence, but this President could definitely serve as the case study to come up with a clear definition. “High crimes and misdemeanors” is not only archaic but actually requires some level of law-breaking, and with teams of powerful lawyers at their disposal Presidents will always be able to find a way to get their way without crossing the line, since all they have to do is move the line.


  55. TerrytheTurtle says:

    He is the commander-in-chief and we (and you) will obey him. Otherwise you’re traitorous scum. No matter who occupies WH next should not be allowed to tear down the accomplishments of the current administration. Yes Mr. President. Build those bases, set up a permanent presence and make such enemies that we can never retreat from the region. I stand by you.

    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

    Hey Foley, Teddy’s calling you out:

    “Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country.”
    -Theodore Roosevelt
    “To announce there must be no criticism of the President, and to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, it is morally treasonous to the American public.”
    – President Theodore Roosevelt

    Are you unpatriotic, servile, morally treasonous or all three, Mr Foley?


  56. wpa54 says:

    Can you say nuttier than a fruit cake?


  57. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    Well, he IS the President, right? At least until January 20, 2009 (or earlier if Pelosi ever find a table ; ) Comment by Jake — May 31, 2007 @ 2:39 pm

    Or later if Bush uses the “Emergency Powers Act” NSPD-51 that bush signed, and appoints himself dictator in case the country is “threatened”. Or didn’t you know that he’s put a back door in for himself to “remain” president if he sees fit?

    Yeah, Bush is “nothing” like a dictator – Jake*ss. For 75, you have the brain of someone 7+5=12 years old. St*pid little man child.


  58. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    Somebody wipe the drool off Jake’s chin.
    Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

    That wasn’t *drool* – yuck..


  59. Rusty says:

    “headlines are like a big pile of shit that draw in the TP flies.”

    Wow! Flaco, did you write that one yourself? Where do you come up with such genius metaphors? You know everytime I think about fighting back against the fascists troglodytes that intellectually challenged republicans and politcal corruption put in office – some staggering giant of intellect like yourself comes along and serves up a anecdote so pithy, so thoughtful, so tearfully-witty, that I just wonder why we should bother to fight back. Afterall, with such informed minions as yourself, who can sculpt with both words and feces, how will we ever overcome your staggering grip on reality?


  60. Zooey says:

    Zooey: What do you find so scary? He’ll be out of office in 2009. It is, of course, a presidential prerogative to dig us in so deep into Iraq that the next president will have difficulties in extraditing him/herself.
    Comment by BottomBoy

    Do me a favor, ButtBoy, and ignore me. M’kay?


  61. Rabby Burg says:

    Betraying my age, but this sure reminds me of Dan Aykroyd’s riffs on Nixon… Pray with me, Henry!


  62. kelso says:

    “setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

    Well that confirms my suspicion that the Iraq occupation has been Purposefully Mis-managed from the very beginning.


  63. Zimzone says:

    Poor W,
    The only blowjobs he gets are from Alberto.
    Even with a bag on his head, Alberto just isn’t exciting him anymore.

    Hey JAKE! We have a job for you. Post your resum’e at the WH door.


  64. Shane says:

    So what? He’s a passionate guy who believes in his vision and legacy.

    Once again you’re reading too much into this.

    Comment by BottomBoy

    Well BottomBoy, it stands to reason you’d know more about his “passion” than the rest of us … winkwink.


  65. MAF54 says:

    #55: how quaint.


  66. penalcolony says:

    There was another inside-theOval-Office story some days ago with an account of Bush talking about “tying up” or “tying down” or otherwise restraining his successor so we won’t be able to leave. The author of this story wondered whether the means might be an attack on Iran. Anybody remember that story?


  67. brando says:

    I think what Bush really said or meant to say was “I am the ANNOINTED ONE”


  68. OleHippieChick says:

    How did they ever get, “I am the pResident” from “Ook, ook, ook”?


  69. trueblue says:

    #52, bs,

    Hey, that sounds familiar.
    …Oh yeah. I married that guy. Real fun 3 years.
    :/


  70. nanlichi says:

    Wow. Talk about a subject that brings all the sycophants out, say something bad about their Dear Leader and all the little whores show up to defend him.

    Bush is like the rich kid in high school, always surrounded by pimple faced losers who will gladly come to his defense hoping he will notice their loyalty. The trolls who post here are those sycophantic, syphilitic whores. Defending their hero, hoping that someday he will reward their loyalty.

    Your reward is in heaven my liitle bitches.


  71. BottomBoy says:

    #66. I can assure you that the plan will not be anything as crude as that. Getting us bogged in the region is, however, in the plans.

    Zooey. So be it. I won’t bother you.


  72. TerrytheTurtle says:

    #55: how quaint.

    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 3:00 pm

    Which is it Adolf – treasonous, unpatriotic? The ’servile’ is right there in your ‘we will obey him’ rant.

    You seem to be mixing the office of the President with a fascist dictatorship….. perhaps you should up your game by mixing in a few quotes from Mein Kampf… at the moment you are strictly amateur. No brownshirt for you yet, you need to earn it.


  73. MAF54 says:

    trueblue: Ah yes. Divorce. The modern way for women to get rid of men they’ve grown bored of. Yet another sign of the times.


  74. Kay says:

    I bet during these increasingly, disturbing tirades Chimpy is sipping at the sauce. If you look at this man closely, and it was very apparent when he was defending Goonzales. (Watch the first video Impeach Gonzales 1.0). This man seriously looks like he’s been drinking; he appears very disheveled.

    This is a very disturbing (but not surprising) portrait of a delusional, mentally imbalanced man.

    And I’m sure it’s being exacerbated by consuming alcohol.

    Pretty scary stuff we’re talking about here.


  75. Zooey says:

    How did they ever get, “I am the pResident” from “Ook, ook, ook”?
    Comment by OleHippieChick

    Ah geez, I choked water up my nose….. :-D


  76. Shane says:

    Somebody wipe the drool off Jake’s chin.

    Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

    Zooey, what makes you so sure it’s drool?


  77. nanlichi says:

    Psssssssst, ButtBoy, Zooey is a woman, you wouldn’t be interested.


  78. trueblue says:

    MFA,

    No, just the way to save ourselves from abusive a$$holes.


  79. Zooey says:

    trueblue: Ah yes. Divorce. The modern way for women to get rid of men they’ve grown bored of. Yet another sign of the times.
    Comment by MAF54

    Hey perv,

    If a woman was married to a man with Antisocial Personality Disorder, I guarantee her life was not boring. Dangerous, but not boring.

    Trueblue knows what’s best for her.


  80. rico says:

    One of the vows to become a member of Skull & Bones one must deny Jesus Christ; you must be a Satanist.
    His passion is real because he and his handlers are satanists; we do not recognize them for what they are because we are not that evil.


  81. MAF54 says:

    #72: It’s sad how you find loyalty and obediance treasonous and unpatriotic. It is patriotic to be loyal to your leaders. It is patriotic to obey your superiors even when then commands do not seem to make any sense.

    I do not need to read the writings of some failed and insane Austrian corporal to realize what honor means. The fact that he abused the terms doesn’t diminish their meaning to me.

    You are devoid of honor. You are without a respectable cause. You’re irrelevant.


  82. Roket says:

    I can just picture it now. Wild eyes (and hair) shaking his head back and forth thumping his chest yelling, “DESTINY, DESTINY, No escaping that for me!!” Oh my God, it’s Herr Bushenstein (pronounced “stine” not “steen”).


  83. kevkev says:

    Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to leave because I’d go berzerk?
    Well, you left me anyhow and the days got worse and worse and now you see I’ve gone completely out of my mind.

    And They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
    They’re coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
    to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time, and I’ll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
    and they’re coming to take me away ha ha

    You thought it was joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said that losing you would make me flip my lid, right? You know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed, you laughed and laughed and then you left, but now you know I’m utterly mad.

    And they’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
    They’re coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
    To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
    They’re coming to take me away ha ha…

    I cooked your food, I cleaned your house, and this is how you paid me back for all my kind unselfish loving deeds. Huh? Well you just wait they’ll find you yet, and when they do they’ll put you in the ASPCA you mangy mutt.

    And They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
    They’re coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
    To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time and I’ll be happy to see those nice men in their clean white coats
    They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
    To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle thier thumbs and toes
    They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha Ha

    Your home the one the bank foreclosed, You cried to me Monogamy is the way we both must live or you’ll feel hurt. But, I see, I see there’s someone new, your anxious poly-pure-bred coat was even gone at our place while I paid the rent, thanks!

    And They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
    They’re coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
    To the loony bin with all you can eat perscription drugs like torizine, and lithium, and electric shock and insulin
    They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha


  84. JTitor says:

    This is some scary crap! I’m not sure what more evidence people need to get this guy the Fu@K out of office. Trip said it best!
    —-
    Get this lunatic out of office NOW, before he sets the world on fire.

    Comment by TripMaster Monkey —


  85. ckerst says:

    It’s been obvious for a long time that monkey boy is unstable. Being a half wit to start with made for a short trip ’round the bend.


  86. Outis says:

    I’m wondering what he is going to feel like once he is no longer “the President” and no one gives two hoots what he thinks (using the term “think” with the broadest possible application). Perhaps he does not intend to leave office . . . a very scary thought. Assuming that we do follow the normal political process, they will have to pry his fingers loose from the Oval Office doors — and I volunteer to help.


  87. Zooey says:

    Zooey, what makes you so sure it’s drool?
    Comment by Shane

    Just being generous, I guess. :D


  88. TheToonGuy says:

    I…I am KIROK!!!


  89. JTitor says:

    Jake loves a woman? Jake loves his mommy….for a long time.


  90. DrBB says:

    the rest of the meeting consisted of The President in an extended whine, a rant, actually, about no one understands him, the critics are all messed up, if only people would see what he’s doing things would be OK…etc., etc. This is called a “bunker mentality”…

    Well, yeah, and not for no reason:

    “It all happened because nobody trusted me, nobody believed in me, and the generals let me down.”
    -A Hitler, Fuhrerbunker, Late April 1945

    Apologies to Godwin as always.


  91. Bob says:

    Oh, for the days of yore when Chimpy and all his treasonous bastard friends would have been hung by the neck until dead for what they’ve attempted to do to this great country of ours.


  92. Zooey says:

    Comment by kevkev — May 31, 2007 @ 3:12 pm

    A classic!

    And so appropriate…


  93. BottomBoy says:

    #77: Yeah, I knew. So you think us queers won’t find women interesting, because we’re not sexually attracted to them? I can see that you’ve got some issues to deal with yourself…

    She’s a smart woman, I can appreciate that, and that’s also why I’ll respect her wishes.


  94. Shane says:

    Ah yes. Divorce. The modern way for women to get rid of men they’ve grown bored of. Yet another sign of the times.
    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

    Project much Mr. Foley. Perhaps if you dated men over 18 years old they wouldn’t get bored with you so fast.


  95. meg_mac says:

    ‘They’re coming to take me away ha ha’ ‘They’re coming to take me away!!’


  96. Cheny is Dick says:

    well, no surprise here !!!

    One has to this when Dick Cheny is your VP….Ha !


  97. TerrytheTurtle says:

    #72: It’s sad how you find loyalty and obediance treasonous and unpatriotic. It is patriotic to be loyal to your leaders. It is patriotic to obey your superiors even when then commands do not seem to make any sense.

    Wasn’t me – ask Teddy Roosevelt – he thinks you are servile, morally treasonous and unpatriotic. Judging from his remarks and your comments your attitude is completely at home in Nazi Germany and completely anathema to a free society.

    You sound a lot better in German and with a marching band playing…. links rechts, links rechts. Come on sing along with me, Adolph: ‘Die Wacht Am Rhein’


  98. Wilco says:

    Blind support is patriotic! Questioning your leaders is treasonous!
    God Bless America, if that’s alright with my boss!
    I’m completely irrelevant to society because I don’t believe in having opinions of my own, only those of my obvious superiors!


  99. madmac says:

    This should not be the behavior of a 60 year old man


  100. Shane says:

    Jake loves a woman? Jake loves his mommy….for a long time.

    Comment by JTitor

    Jake has a man crush on Mitt Romney, but that’s another thread.


  101. Krazny says:

    The scary part, is the bunker mentality. A person backed into a corner like that, can be wild and unpredictible. I sincerely hope the report is exaggerated, or we could see a whole new part to the Gulf war, and the delusional destiny.

    A side note MAF54, what you posited above, is exactly what lead the Germans down the Nazi path, and created the Holocaust. I will remind you as I have reminded others. Saying “I was just following orders” is not acceptable at a war crimes trial.


  102. MAF54 says:

    Turtle: Yes. I know it was not you. I responded by saying “how quaint” by which I meant Teddy Roosevelt. That kind of thinking does not apply in the post-9/11 world anymore. In our existential struggle it is important to stand by our leaders and trust them.


  103. Kay says:

    Wouldn’t if great if a video of this surfaced on Youtube or Google video?
    A progressive for Truth can dream…


  104. Zooey says:

    #81

    Democracy has its moral basis in truth, tolerance, freedom, and respect for human dignity. These are all universal values. If we are loyal to these universal values, then we cannot at the same time be blindly loyal to one government or nation. We corrupted ourselves with our blind patriotism of the late 1940s to 1990s to the point where patriotism today most often means openly supporting the empire (under self-serving lies like “liberating Iraq”), the oppression of freedom worldwide, global economic exploitation and domination, and even the suppression of freedom at home.

    Those honest people who believe in universal values should not attempt to redefine “patriotism” so that it looks as if holding universal values is what is “really” patriotic. We need to repudiate that term. Decent and honest people resist the empire out of universal moral values, out of justice, not out of patriotism. It is universal values like justice and compassion that make us human. Patriotism only divides us from our suffering brothers and sisters worldwide.

    Glen T. Martin, Professor of Philosophy and Religious Studies at Radford University


  105. Bob Lewis says:

    My own personal opinion, from the beginning, is that George has ALWAYS been retarded, but Mommy Bush, & Daddy Bush would NEVER let him know about that. SO, for all of his ridiculous life, He’s been sheltered from that very fact, by family, freinds, and cohorts., Always being Bailed out by Daddy’s friends, and Financial Backers, no matter How bad he screwed up. Cut to Now, & He’s taken all of his School freinds, from”Miss Pat’s Special school for retarded & Clueless little rich boys” and Placed them as Policy Commissars in all of the Government agencies. Add to that the Presidential Edict, just declared, the Plan to Completely run the the whole show, including law-making and Political supervision during a national emergency (Expect one soon!), and you see where its going, folks. Now, If it goes down the Tubes, and he gets hoisted on his own petard, Expect him to make his escape to Paraguay, where he sent the twins a few months ago to purchase a big peice of Property, there, during their recent little jaunt to RIO. BTW, Paraguay HAS NO EXTRADITION Treaty with the U.S.!
    Hell, Now I feel Paranoid… Is it Contagious?


  106. TerrytheTurtle says:

    I knew I’d heard this stuff before:

    “It is patriotic to obey your superiors even when then commands do not seem to make any sense.” – from Adolph Foley

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Defense

    “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.”

    Sorry Adolph, you appear to be a Nazi….. if the jackboots fit, you can’t acquit


  107. MAF54 says:

    Krazny: victors hold the wr crime tribunals.


  108. Janeane The Acerbic Goblin says:

    Thanks a lot, MSM, for whitewashing this lunatic’s past. Great job! Now we all have to suffer because you didn’t like Al Gore’s suits or John Kerry’s hair.


  109. DrBB says:

    He’ll be out of office in 2009. It is, of course, a presidential prerogative to dig us in so deep into Iraq that the next president will have difficulties in extraditing him/herself.

    –bottomboy

    Um, bottomboy (weird choice of moniker btw), I think your freudian slip is showing.


  110. Gus Smith says:

    Well, he IS the President, right? At least until January 20, 2009 (or earlier if Pelosi ever find a table ; )

    Comment by Jake

    What’s your point Jake? Bush’s words are like your parent saying.. because..”I’m your mother (or father).” So what is the question that provoked that didactic and pointless comment by Bush. Definitely a losing position when you have to assert your role yourself. Yeah, not everyone should be parents.


  111. BottomBoy says:

    #109: Hahahaha! Well, what you know. I’ve got no defense against that kind of a slip. Good catch and thanks for making me laugh.


  112. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Turtle: Yes. I know it was not you. I responded by saying “how quaint” by which I meant Teddy Roosevelt. That kind of thinking does not apply in the post-9/11 world anymore. In our existential struggle it is important to stand by our leaders and trust them.

    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 3:23 pm

    Ah yes, the post-9-11 world. Sort of like the post-1918 world in Germany eh? We lost because we were ’stabbed in the back’ – therefore let’s weed out anyone who disagrees with us, votes against us or asks questions as to our motives – oh and let’s add a bit of Lebensraum to boot. ‘Trust our leaders’ – sorry Adolph, your mindset is more pre-1776 than post-9-11.


  113. mongo says:

    “I responded by saying “how quaint” by which I meant Teddy Roosevelt. That kind of thinking does not apply in the post-9/11 world anymore. In our existential struggle it is important to stand by our leaders and trust them.

    Comment by MAF54″

    Gee, that’s kind of a slippery slope, don’t you think?

    “Quaint” is how AG described the Geneva Convention.

    I guess habeus corpus is “quaint” now too.

    How long until the Bill of Rights is “quaint”?


  114. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Krazny: victors hold the wr crime tribunals.

    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 3:25 pm

    Better get your ranch in Paraguay before demand picks up, Adolph.


  115. Pickles says:

    Chimpy says, “Now watch me fling poo!”

    Ook ook!


  116. OleHippieChick says:

    Ah geez, I choked water up my nose….. :-D

    Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 3:09 pm

    Sorry, Z, but glad to make you laugh! I thought of King Kong, y’know.


  117. Krazny says:

    I wonder how much you will stand behind a democratic leader, and trust them since it is so important in the post 9-11 world.

    Back on topic, I think that a deranged lunatic running the whitehouse is a bad thing. They do unexpected, and often irresponsible things. If you think bush warrants your trust, then you are making him a cult figure. niether I nor anyone I know ever put as much trust, and blind loyalty in any political figure.


  118. VerbalKint says:

    A madman is running this country.


  119. Namtillaku says:

    Enough is enough – THIS is the man who’s finger is on the nuclear trigger – congratulations Jake, your commander guy in chief – the decider. Thank you, and your brethren 28%’ers!


  120. Jake says:

    All I’m saying is that we have to follow the rule of law. Even if he is downright insane, we’re still obligated to support in him whatever he does. So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Can’t believe you all don’t get this.


  121. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Strange that the post-9-11 world implies slavish obedience to the leadership as everyone was a subordinate soldier and the country was in fact a military dictatorship. And that anyone who disagrees is called a ‘traitorous scum’.

    And these are the same people who say ‘Osama hates us for our freedoms‘. So buy throwing those freedoms away…… who is winning this so-called-war-on-terra.

    Adolph, you’re either a moral imbecile or a fascist with your ‘with us or against us’ rant. You know, I don’t think you get to choose – you seem to be both.


  122. nanlichi says:

    Ok, BB. It was a cheap shot and not even very relevant. There’s no doubt I have issues, but homophobia isn’t one of them. I find you queers for the most part, very interesting to have a discussion with.

    My biggest issue is an anger issue. It incenses me what Bush has done to our country. I truly see him and his ilk as my enemies.

    Ok, back to the cheap shots, sorry for the interruption.


  123. RUCerious says:

    I am sure I read this same story about a month ago. Doesn’t make it any less scary, but this is a rehash of bushonhash.


  124. Jason Baddo says:

    this crazed fool was elected TWICE!!!! how could we be so naive.


  125. Namtillaku says:

    So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Can’t believe you all don’t get this.

    Comment by Jake — May 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

    Ladies and Gentleman – JAKE – give him a hand.


  126. RUCerious says:

    Wow, hold the presses, this appears to be a second rantation!
    So the chymp did a Kong imitation and thinks he can hold his successor to the empty goals he has set for the Middle East?
    Forget it, ape-boy, the next president will extricate us from your quagmire, and with any luck, we’ll see you at your war crimes trial.
    Remember, they kidnapped Eichmann from South America, you won’t be safe in Paraguay.


  127. unbelievable says:

    Adolph, you’re either a moral imbecile or a fascist with your ‘with us or against us’ rant. You know, I don’t think you get to choose – you seem to be both.
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

    Matthew 12:30 (King James Version)

    “He that is not with me is against me”

    —Jesus


  128. trueblue says:

    Even if he is downright insane, we’re still obligated to support in him whatever he does. So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Can’t believe you all don’t get this.

    Comment by Jake

    That was a fake Jake, right?


  129. Shane says:

    That kind of thinking does not apply in the post-9/11 world anymore. In our existential struggle it is important to stand by our leaders and trust them.

    Comment by MAF54

    Well isn’t that a convenient little explanation for treason.


  130. BottomBoy says:

    Ok. DrBB put me in such a good mood, that there’s one more thing I’m going to share with you before I’ve got to get some real work done. Just a brain teaser. It’s all public knowledge anyway, but you’ve still not put all the pieces together.

    Item 1) Anyone with half a brain can see that George is bored with the job of being a decider.

    Item 2) He didn’t get to be the hero he wanted to be and/or to beat his father so he’s going to spoil it for the next president.

    Item 3) Now, since the good old shrub doesn’t really run the big program, what do you think his… ahem, minders, will think of the coming improvisation? They already gave him a hint with the Iraq Study Group., but he chose to ignore it.

    Oooh… don’t you just love it!? We are already playing 2009 and beyond. :)


  131. TerrytheTurtle says:

    All I’m saying is that we have to follow the rule of law. Even if he is downright insane, we’re still obligated to support in him whatever he does. So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Can’t believe you all don’t get this.

    Comment by Jake — May 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

    Joke, please refer to the posts on the Nuremberg Defense. “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.”

    Unless of course ’starts a nuclear war’ does not represent a moral choice… Joke, you are raving mad. Stick to rape, this stuff is too complex for you.


  132. Shane says:

    Krazny: victors hold the wr crime tribunals.

    Comment by MAF54

    Aren’t you a good little nazi!


  133. Kiki says:

    It’s not patriotic to be loyal to your leaders when they’re obviously unhinged. That’s NATIONALISTIC, and NATIONALISM is what got us into WWII (not on our part, the Germans).

    Grow up, asshat.


  134. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Matthew 12:30 (King James Version)

    “He that is not with me is against me”

    —Jesus

    Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 3:46 pm

    Now isn’t that interesting……difficult to call JC a ‘moral imbecile’, sooo….


  135. Namtillaku says:

    #

    That kind of thinking does not apply in the post-9/11 world anymore. In our existential struggle it is important to stand by our leaders and trust them.

    Comment by MAF54

    Well isn’t that a convenient little explanation for treason.

    Comment by Shane — May 31, 2007 @ 3:48 pm

    Or a blueprint for our own little dictatorship here in America.


  136. nanlichi says:

    “Well isn’t that a convenient little explanation for treason.”

    Well said Shane.

    It will be interesting to watch MAF54 and Jake give their total loyalty to President Edwards in about a year and half.


  137. Shane says:

    So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Can’t believe you all don’t get this.

    Comment by Jake — May 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

    If somebody had advance knowledge that a lunatic was going to start a nuclear war for no apparent reason and did nothing to stop him wouldn’t that be treasonous?


  138. celtic cynic says:

    Yea!!!!! A full-tilt bozo coming to the end of his inglorious reign.

    Is it the drugs again, or has the paranoia returned on its own?


  139. valiant venus says:

    Dear Leftards, You should be thanking President Bush – He is simply reminding those of you with limited attention spans that “HE — IS — THE–PRESIDENT.” I realize it’s hard for you mentally feeble folks to get over the fact that he beat your guys TWICE – (Thank you, Al gore, for the lawsuit.)

    Now if you have trouble remembering, let us know and we will send some “just for YOU” flashcards…..


  140. Shane says:

    It will be interesting to watch MAF54 and Jake give their total loyalty to President Edwards in about a year and half.

    Comment by nanlichi

    I’m pretty sure they believe their leader, Rove, will steal the next election too.


  141. Shane says:

    Or a blueprint for our own little dictatorship here in America.

    Comment by Namtillaku

    I think Rove and Cheney are the blueprint holders and Bush is just their puppet.


  142. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Matthew 12:30 (King James Version)

    “He that is not with me is against me”

    —Jesus

    Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 3:46 pm

    Of course the King James edition is a translation of the Greek and two of the other gospels turn it around to “He who is not against me is for me”.

    Note that the time of King James was all about being ‘for someone and not against someone’ – Reformation in full swing and English Civil War and the end of the “Divine Right of Kings” just around the corner…. you paying attention here Adolph?


  143. Namtillaku says:

    Dear Leftards, You should be thanking President Bush – He is simply reminding those of you with limited attention spans that “HE — IS — THE–PRESIDENT.

    No, just like a monkey, he’s reminding us that HE, HE IS THE CHIMPY.


  144. Wilco says:

    Jake, what rules are you talking about? What laws?
    The founders created a limited executive because they refused to blindly support the president. It’s why we have checks and balances and not a monarchy. The constitution implores us not to trust the government, by separating the powers into 3 equal and independent branches.
    I thought we were supposed to follow those laws.


  145. unbelievable says:

    “Now isn’t that interesting……difficult to call JC a ‘moral imbecile’, sooo….
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 3:52 pm”

    Ah, go ahead. After reading the Bible, cover to cover, I have called him a douche bag and retarded. I seriously doubt he either existed or was the person of his legend. I just think it’s only fair to point out the reality of Bush’s religious impact on his reign of our country. It’s not the handful of peace and love verses that the religious right pretends that inspires him.


  146. fatkat says:

    What is most troubling about his past, current and future behavior, is that no one seems to do anything about it! What are they afraid of; jail, being sent to Iraq, not feeling needed, or just that their money scam will be ended and they will have to give back the medal or a library will not have there name on it.

    I just cant understand why and why these people are so unethical in not confronting him on his behavior. They cant all be like him!


  147. Zooey says:

    That was a fake Jake, right?
    Comment by trueblue

    No true, I think we just got through all the crap and found the real Jake — submissive authoritarian.


  148. MAF54 says:

    Well, he is the President. I’d like to see you deny that.


  149. trueblue says:

    So What, “…he’s the President”?

    That doesn’t mean he’s a god.

    It’s a freakin’ Job Title. He works for us!


  150. unbelievable says:

    He is simply reminding those of you with limited attention spans that “HE — IS — THE–PRESIDENT.”
    Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:01 pm

    Except that. Megan, he was speaking to a group of people in private… (that means not to the public).

    Grow a brain cell and use it.


  151. Zooey says:

    Jake, Mighty Venus & all trolls:

    Authoritarianism

    Principle of unqualified submission to authority, as opposed to individual freedom of thought and action. As a political system, authoritarianism is antidemocratic in that political power is concentrated in a leader or small elite not constitutionally responsible to those governed. It differs from totalitarianism in that authoritarian governments usually lack a guiding ideology, tolerate some pluralism in social organization, lack the power to mobilize the whole population in pursuit of national goals, and exercise their power within relatively predictable limits.


  152. Shane says:

    Dear Leftards, You should be thanking President Bush – He is simply reminding those of you with limited attention spans that “HE — IS — THE–PRESIDENT.”

    Comment by valiant venus

    Oh mightless flacid penus, interesting that you are on the same path as your president, the road to Crazy Town. Do you think he’s chugging cough medicine too. Or have the two of you moved up to crystal meth?

    Oh and for the record, WE KNOW he’s the president, that’s what’s so scary.


  153. Don says:

    He is the PRESIDENT but he is not the king. He’s dangerously out of touch with reality and his policies are killing American soldiers. He should be impeached, tried and convicted. If this was Bill Clinton or Al Gore they’d already be serving time. Here in the USA we care more about oral sex crimes than lying us into a cross-fire in Iraq in which Americans are getting sacrificed daily.


  154. Wilco says:

    unbelievable, you are the only person I know who would call Jesus retarded and a douche bag, at least out loud (or in print). You make me laugh


  155. valiant venus says:

    President Edwards??? Wait until we dissect how much his UNIVERSAL health care will cost the economy…….This is going to be FUN!! For you morons who think it will SAVE the economy $$$, go back and see how much MEDI-CARE was PROJECTED to cost and the actual figures.) Now I realize the largest Democrat constituency are those who can’t wait to dive into someone else’s pockets….and they still have a hard time filling out those absentee ballots without the conspiracy brewed at ACORN….but when the middle class, whom Dems have begun to love, start examining the numbers, get ready to say, “President Thompson.”


  156. RUCerious says:

    Shane #129 ~ Wow, you sound just like the Church lady!


  157. MAF54 says:

    #151: Yes? And what’s wrong with those goals? If you stand by your leaders you’ve got nothing to worry about. You will be part of the ruling class.


  158. barfly says:

    (Thank you, Al gore, for the lawsuit.)

    Now if you have trouble remembering, let us know and we will send some “just for YOU” flashcards…..

    Comment by valiant venus

    Um, Bush was the first to file, sweetie. But don’t let me interfere with your fantasy…


  159. nanlichi says:

    Really strange thinking, this follow the leader mentality.

    Kids must always obey their parents, wives obey their husbands, if the priest tells you to touch his dick you must obey, and we all swear allegiance to the pyschotic punk in the White House???


  160. unbelievable says:

    “Of course the King James edition is a translation of the Greek and two of the other gospels turn it around to “He who is not against me is for me”.
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 4:03 pm”

    Agreed. And the Greek version can be traced back through Buddhism, Taoism and Hinduism to be pacifistic “live and let live” types of positive, rather than negative, versions of the adages. It was the writers of the bible who interjected their punishment-oriented versions of these sage sayings… After all, their culture and environment are condusive to survival rather than a higher Maslow function of community and support…


  161. MAF54 says:

    Shane: Now why would anyone switch from the sweet opiates to vile meth? Reminds me that I get to enjoy my daily percocet, soon.


  162. RUCerious says:

    Ye Gods, the Bush worship of the rightie/tighties is mind boggling.
    Let him put us in debt for generations so he can attempt his messianic prophesy of a free (ask Mr or Ms Iraqi just how free they are today) Middle East.
    Let him not take responsibility for the deaths and maimings of thousands of our troops.
    Allow him to give big business everything it wants but screw the middle and lower classes so his rich cohorts can have tax breaks.
    Y’all should eat some exploded frog.


  163. upside00 says:

    #139 Dear Leftards, You should be thanking President Bush – He is simply reminding those of you with limited attention spans that “HE — IS — THE–PRESIDENT.” V V

    V V, Good to see you are still slobbering all over YOUR President. It must feel great to be one of the 28%ers, huh!


  164. Sue says:

    Jeeez…all he needs is a teeny-tiny bike, a little parasol and tight rope.


  165. Klerck says:

    #155. Yes. Of course it will cost because we will include the poor people that are currently dumped outside of our society. Do you know what is the fundamental purpose for a society? Taking care of your neighbours? That’s why societies formed in the first place.

    It is so pathetic that you are just counting the pennies when human health and lives are in question.


  166. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Ah, go ahead. After reading the Bible, cover to cover, I have called him a douche bag and retarded. I seriously doubt he either existed or was the person of his legend. I just think it’s only fair to point out the reality of Bush’s religious impact on his reign of our country. It’s not the handful of peace and love verses that the religious right pretends that inspires him.

    Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 4:04 pm

    I lean more to a Robin Hood interpretation – he probably existed, but the stories written are more of a composite of a number of popular legends around the concept of a Jewish Messiah and could be sourced from a number of contemporary characters too. The rump interpretation of this legend as is solidified in the Council of Nicea’s blatantly political definition of Jesus… well you know where I’m going there.

    Anyway, would like to go further but we’re off topic UNB … Meanwhile back at the bunker…


  167. barfly says:

    … start examining the numbers, get ready to say, “President Thompson.”

    Comment by valiant venus

    Is that a new sitcom? ‘Cause there’s enough footage of the bombastic Thompson saying some pretty funny things. His many previous roles will give the media (and the Daily Show) at lot of fodder.


  168. valiant venus says:

    Georgie Ann Geyer OPINION is as valuable as Dick Morris’. P.S. Georgie is no “reporter” – she is the same journalistic league as all the other Editorial Page Princesses…..

    Thanks for the midday s-t-r-e-t-c-h, TP!!!


  169. Uncle Ho says:

    #1 fatkat; Darwin was WRONG! Bush is the living embodiment of devolution. We are devolving, not evolving.


  170. MAF54 says:

    #159: Is it that strange? How else can you expect obedience from your subordinates? And what’s wrong with kids obeying their parents?!


  171. Flaco says:

    The submoronic left is having a feeding frenzy on this headline.


  172. Uncle Ho says:

    Just like his beloved fuhrer, Bushitler will soon be foaming at the mouth, fall to the floor and start chewing the rugs.


  173. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    Georgie Ann Geyer OPINION is as valuable as Dick Morris’. P.S. Georgie is no “reporter” – she is the same journalistic league as all the other Editorial Page Princesses….. Thanks for the midday s-t-r-e-t-c-h, TP!!! Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

    And you’re in the “troll-league” with the rest of the pimple faced little sh*ts that worship at the “Cult-Of-Bush”… Poor little wide-eyed st*pid c*nt… You’re in the midday s-t-r-e-t-c-h of *trolling* wingnut! Eat a cracker, your posts are as thin and *ugly* as your pictures on MYSPACE!!!!


  174. Klerck says:

    Valiant Venus is a woman who lacks empathy and compassion for her fellow human beings. She is happy when she and her immediate family are safe and healthy. She doesn’t care about the unemployed, alcoholics or drug addicts. She just hopes that they’ll die quickly away and leave more to her and her sick kind.


  175. nanlichi says:

    Wilco,

    You are wrong buddy, unbelievable is not the only one who would diss your fairy Jebus in writing or in print.

    I drove by Veneral Vipers house around Christmas last year and I tell you, it was appalling! Mary was servicing the donkey, the Wise Men were taking turns with Brother Joseph, and I won’t even tell you what Baby Jebus had as a pacifier.

    Disgusting, but amusing at the same time.

    The whole Christian/Muslim/Jewish religions are tribal myths. Unbelievable is not going to get smacked with a bolt from the blue because of some miffed god.

    The Viper on the other hand, probably crossed some line……..


  176. barrelhse says:

    A shame he wasn’t holding a knife at the time…


  177. Lefty says:

    Paranoia strikes deep
    Into your life it will creep
    It starts when you’re always afraid
    You step out of line, the man come and take you away


  178. valiant venus says:

    “Totalitarianism – (noun)
    1.the practices and principles of a totalitarian regime.
    2. absolute control by the state or a governing branch of a highly centralized institution.
    3. the character or quality of an autocratic or authoritarian individual, group, or government: the totalitarianism of the father
    ]
    See: Hugo Chavez”

    Zoooette, Once again blurring the lines……..poor thing….


  179. MAF54 says:

    #166: Well, after you die you’ll find out that you’ll be spending a very painful eternity without God and in the company of the Satan. Living in sin, blasphemy, not having your sins washed away by the blood of Christ,… it’s going to be bad for you.


  180. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    President Edwards??? Wait until we dissect how much his UNIVERSAL health care will cost the economy…….Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

    According to Walmart and General Motors, it will save *bundles*! Maybe it has something to do with that “inefficient” medicare having 2.1% overhead, whereas the “typical” insurance policy has 10 times that?

    This is going to be FUN!! For you morons who think it will SAVE the economy $$$, go back and see how much MEDI-CARE was PROJECTED to cost and the actual figures.) Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

    Yeah, you mean the *figures* that bush *fixed* to give more money to his corrupt phony friends in the Big Pharma industry? The one that was “fabricated” intentionally? I guess the concept of “negotiating” volume discounts doesn’t make sense to a “so-called-capitalist” like yourself? BAHAHA, Nut job.

    Now I realize the largest Democrat constituency are those who can’t wait to dive into someone else’s pockets….Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

    No, that’s the largest Republirat constituency, especially those with stock in Halliburton!!!

    and they still have a hard time filling out those absentee ballots without the conspiracy brewed at ACORN….Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

    Or getting a recount squashed, without the conspiracy brewed by Ohio and Florida Election officials and to prevent recounts?

    but when the middle class, whom Dems have begun to love, start examining the numbers, get ready to say, “President Thompson.”
    Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

    BAHAHA, In your dreams – f*cking loser…

    The country is sick of you f*cking NeoNaziCons – or didn’t you get the memo – st*pid c*nt?


  181. Zimzone says:

    MAF54 & Valient Viper,
    Have you two ever met?

    Would you like to?

    You know, you could sit around and look at each other and…say absolutely nothing, like you do here.

    You could be known all over this great country as…nothing…like your Chimp ‘N Chief


  182. Perry Logan says:

    George W. Bush was never President. In the history books of the future, there’s an asterisk by his name.


  183. Uncle Ho says:

    #36 MAF54; I see you are goose-steeping behind your fuhrer every inch of the way…..straight into hell.


  184. Flaco says:

    ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus – a common moonbat species (moonbaticus jakassis) here at TP


  185. unbelievable says:

    “you are the only person I know who would call Jesus retarded and a douche bag, at least out loud (or in print).”

    Well, if the shoe fits… Have you read the bible? Sure he is attributed with saying some nice stuff that was not original (Far Eastern philosophies had said them thousands of years earlier), but he’s also said some terrible stuff too – which gets covered up and ignored. I think if we’re going to be honest, then you have to look at the whole picture, and not just the parts that you like.

    “You make me laugh
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 4:09 pm”

    I’m pretty sure that you’re in the minority on that one… :D Thanks. Nice to see you. It’s been a while.


  186. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    Poor st*pid c*nts like Osama Ben Venus, that call for torture, murder, genocide, bigotry and hate – don’t seem to understand that the “MAJORITY” of Americans share a vision of “UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE”, not her vision of dead baby jokes, perpetual war, and the religious dark ages (SHE) seems comfortable with fomenting. What a st*pid, “useless” little c*nt.


  187. nanlichi says:

    #170, Yes absolutely it’s strange.

    What is a wife to do when her daughter comes to here saying that Daddy has been raping her? You loyal shits would say, “he’s my husband and I will stay by him”

    Bush has been raping and defiling our country. It’s your duty as an American to stand up and put a stop to him. Where do you idiots buy the brownshirts?


  188. Uncle Ho says:

    #39 Toby; It IS the Planet of the Apes.


  189. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus – a common moonbat species (moonbaticus jakassis) here at TP Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 4:26 pm

    Flaco, a common wingnut species (wingnuticus jakeassis) here at TP, that thinks everyone that points out what a jake*ss they are is a ‘moonbat’ – poor st*pid little sh*the*d….


  190. veritas says:

    Chest thumping?? Dumbya?? That proves the Darwinian theory, doesn’t it? Handily!


  191. Flaco says:

    unbelievable – a rare moonbat species (moonbaticus ignoramus)


  192. veritas says:

    Bush actually has friends left?? Why do I find that difficult to believe?


  193. TerrytheTurtle says:

    #166: Well, after you die you’ll find out that you’ll be spending a very painful eternity without God and in the company of the Satan. Living in sin, blasphemy, not having your sins washed away by the blood of Christ,… it’s going to be bad for you.

    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 4:25 pm

    Another lottery ticket Christian …. ‘got mit uns’ eh, Adolph?


  194. rfinca says:

    If this is true, it is pretty damn spooky…


  195. MAF54 says:

    #187: No such rapes take place in God-fearing families, so your entire point is moot.

    Nice of you to compare the hideous act of a rape to someone running a country to the best of his abilities. Just no sense of proportion or decency.


  196. MAF54 says:

    The fact is that the war must go on and sacrifices will have to be made until the islamic threat has been crushed like nazis were in WWII.

    You may talk about civil rights, the Hague and war crimes, but the fact remains: just like in WWII, we will do whatever is necessary. We’ll even drop the big one.

    So shut up already. You are irrelevant.


  197. valiant venus says:

    #158 – “Um, Bush was the first to file, sweetie. But don’t let me interfere with your fantasy…” Comment by barfly

    Wrong again, little drunkard….”Florida’s election laws[5] allow a candidate to request a county to conduct a manual recount, and Gore requested manual recounts in four Florida counties: Volusia, Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade. The four counties granted the request and began manual recounts. However, Florida law also required all counties to certify their election returns to the Florida Secretary of State within seven days of the election,[6] and several of the counties conducting manual recounts did not believe they could meet this deadline. On November 14, the statutory deadline, the Florida Circuit Court ruled that the 7-day deadline was mandatory, but that the counties could amend their returns at a later date. The court also ruled that the Secretary, after “considering all attendant facts and circumstances,” had discretion to include any late amended returns….”


  198. unbelievable says:

    “I lean more to a Robin Hood interpretation – he probably existed, but the stories written are more of a composite of a number of popular legends around the concept of a Jewish Messiah and could be sourced from a number of contemporary characters too.”

    Quite plausible. He probably wasn’t named Jesus though, as there is no historical record of a man of that name from the rather prolific contemporary writers of his time. They did speak of a Christ person, but called him this is in title format rather than using it as a first name, leaving speculation as to whether or not he was an urban legend or someone who actually existed.

    “The rump interpretation of this legend as is solidified in the Council of Nicea’s blatantly political definition of Jesus… well you know where I’m going there.”

    Rump… Yep :D

    “Anyway, would like to go further but we’re off topic UNB … Meanwhile back at the bunker…
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 4:16 pm”

    You think so? I guess I think it is on topic. We’re talking about why Bush is such a manical little despot and I think his adoption of a Middle Eastern religion as his personal ideology sheds a lot of light on his authoritarian complex (thanks for the definition Zoo) when you bother to dissect it.

    But, if you’d rather not discuss that aspect, I’m also up for discussing psychological disorders he might have, or just making fun of MegAn :D


  199. dbadass says:

    #179
    I am very curious about this whole post life deal. Can you please direct me to any empirical evidence(s) you know of which support such. I am particularly interested in any data that suggests that anything known as a “soul” exists and does anything at all as the flesh is degraded by decomposer organisms. Thanks.


  200. OxyCon says:

    I get a visual for the way Bush is losing his mind.
    Napoleon eating his giant sized bowl of “Ziggy Piggy” ice cream in the movie “Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure”.
    Know what I mean?


  201. Flaco says:

    TP has always been a tabloid/gossip rag.

    Headlines remind you of the “National Enquirer” you see at the grocery store.


  202. G. W. Bush says:

    You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet….Watch me collect termites on a twig….


  203. upside00 says:

    #195 Nice of you to compare the hideous act of a rape to someone running a country to the best of his abilities. Just no sense of proportion or decency.

    Comment by MAF54

    That’s the problem, isn’t it, MAF54…. to the best of his abilities. We need to get an adult in the job and clean up his mess before the rest of the world trips all over it.

    Proves we should have a minimum age for becoming President, and it needs to be an emotional age, not just number of birthday candles on his cake!


  204. Flaco says:

    latest Iranian bumper sticker

    Got Nukes?


  205. celtic cynic says:

    I’m not sure if this article is true. Perusal of the Dallas Morning News website reveals no such story, either by search on “George Bush” or “Georgie Anne Geyer” or featured stories.
    I don’t live in Dallas, so I have no direct knowledge. Does anyone?
    Buehler, anyone?


  206. MAF54 says:

    #199: There’s no evidence – otherwise it wouldn’t be called faith.


  207. nanlichi says:

    #195,

    You have some serious problems dude. I grew up in a small town in Arizona that was very Christian, one church held sway over the whole town.

    Rapes and child molestation did take place and were covered up by the pious church members. They closed rank and protected their own.

    Bush is raping our country. He took us into a war of his desire, not what is best for the USA, but for his own ego. The deaths of innocents and the squandering of our honor and billions is his doing.

    Well, his and all his supporters and handlers. I daresay that you defenders have some blood on your hands and suffering on your conscience.

    You believe in an afterlife and a reckoning, right? I think you may have some ’splaining to do if it is so.


  208. Wilco says:

    Un, I will look at the parts I like only, thank you very much. But those parts tend to be ones in common with eastern religions and philosophies. I like the philosophy of Jesus much better than the philosophy behind Christianity. I think his too many of his followers muddied up the faith.
    And it has been too long.


  209. unbelievable says:

    “You are wrong buddy, unbelievable is not the only one who would diss your fairy Jebus in writing or in print.”

    Wilco and I got off to a bad start when I didn’t get that he is pure sarcasm. He’s very dry… and he’s not a Christian.

    “I drove by Veneral Vipers house around Christmas last year and I tell you, it was appalling! Mary was servicing the donkey, the Wise Men were taking turns with Brother Joseph, and I won’t even tell you what Baby Jebus had as a pacifier.”

    Seriously! Wow… I don’t think I’d go THAT far, but I do understand how someone can.

    “The whole Christian/Muslim/Jewish religions are tribal myths. Unbelievable is not going to get smacked with a bolt from the blue because of some miffed god.”

    It’s amazing how liberating it is to now accept that (I am a born-again Atheist to quote David Eller :).

    “The Viper on the other hand, probably crossed some line……..
    Comment by nanlichi — May 31, 2007 @ 4:23 pm”

    Taste? :D


  210. Uncle Ho says:

    #115 pickles; Damn! that made me spill my Pepsi, laughing. :-)


  211. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Megan, eh? I had a different first name for MA….


  212. Zooey says:

    #159: Is it that strange? How else can you expect obedience from your subordinates? And what’s wrong with kids obeying their parents?!
    Comment by MAF54

    Some parents don’t have their childrens’ best interests at heart, but I guess the children should still obey them, right perv?


  213. valiant venus says:

    Dear Klerck – You amusing imbecile! I care about the unemployed…..before my employees entered my employment, they were unemployed. (I also pay for their health insurance. They may choose to enroll their families – I pay 50% of that cost.) As far as alcoholism & drug addiction go- I refer people to AA and NA. I

    (Thank you for putting in you 2 cents. It was worth almost that much, but there is no change for a penny….)


  214. Zooey says:

    Zoooette, Once again blurring the lines……..poor thing….
    Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:25 pm

    If the definition of Authoritarianism is blurry to you, Hag, I suggest not drinking your lunch EVERYDAY.


  215. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    TP has always been a tabloid/gossip rag.
    Headlines remind you of the “National Enquirer” you see at the grocery store.
    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 4:36 pm

    That’s only when they “repeat” a headline from Fox News, or Drudge. You know, you’re “favorite” tabloid resources?


  216. Flaco says:

    Wlico you are you own god – you decide what is good or evil
    Pick and choose religion – typical moonbat


  217. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    unbelievable – a rare moonbat species (moonbaticus ignoramus)
    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

    If moonbats are so “rare”, why are you so scared sh*tless? R*t*rd.


  218. TerrytheTurtle says:

    #179
    I am very curious about this whole post life deal. Can you please direct me to any empirical evidence(s) you know of which support such. I am particularly interested in any data that suggests that anything known as a “soul” exists and does anything at all as the flesh is degraded by decomposer organisms. Thanks.

    Comment by dbadass — May 31, 2007 @ 4:35 pm

    I can’t help you directly, but I can offer you the next best thing. Buy yourself a Mega Millions ticket, put it in your wallet and leave it there…. act like you’ve won for a week or so. That’s born-again Christianity right there. But don’t whatever you do, don’t look at those numbers…..


  219. nanlichi says:

    “Anyway, would like to go further but we’re off topic UNB … Meanwhile back at the bunker…
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 4:16 pm”

    I think that this is the underlying topic TerrytheTurtle, I think that Bush’s derangement andthe common denominator of Bush and his supporters is the Christian myth. I would daresay that 95% of Bush supporters are fundamental Christians.

    Not saying that all Christians are Bush supporters, but all Bush supporters are Christian.

    I would like to know how much of Bush’s decision to invade Iraq was due to his faith and how much was due to his desire to finally be someone. We will never know though, you sure can’t ask him why he invaded Iraq, he has no coherent answer.


  220. gummitch says:

    If the definition of Authoritarianism is blurry to you, Hag, I suggest not drinking your lunch EVERYDAY.

    Comment by Zooey

    Zinnnnnnnnnnng.


  221. dbadass says:

    #206
    Thanks! That’s what I thought. None. Now can you help me spread the word by reminding others so they can stop judging people by their “faith” Obviously no one person’s “faith” can be any more or less valid than anyone else’s.


  222. justice says:

    HHAHAHA

    “President Thompson”

    hahahaha

    you mean Freddy Thompson? The guy who supported that TRAITOR Scooter Libby and publically defended him?
    The same Freddy who is hiring the election fraud caging expert Griffin?

    Oh yeah, he will really garner the Conservative vote. LOL

    Any Repug with a BRAIN left realizes that the corruption and cronyism of this slimy administration is the REASON for the demise of their party and they will not throw their votes to someone who from jump street allied himself with Bushie criminals.

    you wingers are not only dumb as rocks, know NOTHING of civics OR history but you honestly think this washed up actor will be your redemption.

    fools one and all


  223. NoOneYouKnow says:

    I’ll be Bush suspects he’s Jesus, too. I wonder if his handlers will keep him under control or if he’ll demonstrate his psychosis for the cameras. And if they got that footage, I wonder if the MSM would use it.


  224. upside00 says:

    #219 Not saying that all Christians are Bush supporters, but all Bush supporters are Christian. Nanlichi

    Don’t forget the NeoCon Jews and Athiests (Rove) in that 28% group!


  225. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    Dear Klerck – You amusing imbecile! Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

    Dear Osama Ben Venus – You Vulgar St*pid C*nt!

    I care about the unemployed…..Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

    You don’t “care” about anyone but yourself – you hateful lying c*nt.

    before my employees entered my employment, they were unemployed. (I also pay for their health insurance. They may choose to enroll their families – I pay 50% of that cost.) As far as alcoholism & drug addiction go- I refer people to AA and NA. I Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

    Oh, PUHLEASE, no one would work for a miserable c*nt like you – and you only hire the “unemployeed”? What, you prefer to exploit the “desperate”? So you won’t pay for the healthcare of families, and if they can’t afford to pony up their half – f*ck them? As for you “preferring” AA & NA – we bet you do! Someone like you must have a lot of experience with BOTH of them – C*NT!

    (Thank you for putting in you 2 cents. It was worth almost that much, but there is no change for a penny….) Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

    As opposed to you – you worthless HAG! People like you, are a bane on society, you religious, r*t*rded FANATIC!


  226. Wilco says:

    Wlico you are you own god

    thank you Flaco
    Someone finally figured me out!
    I do decide what is right or wrong, good or evil
    it’s all subjective
    how very astute of you
    Being my own god, I’m not even using my fingers to type this. Also, everything I write is infallible. such as, Flaco is an idiot who never has a single idea to contribute.


  227. mongo says:

    “I’m not sure if this article is true. Perusal of the Dallas Morning News website reveals no such story, either by search on “George Bush” or “Georgie Anne Geyer” or featured stories.
    I don’t live in Dallas, so I have no direct knowledge. Does anyone?
    Buehler, anyone?

    Comment by celtic cynic”

    It’s an op-ed piece; the link is right there…


  228. Krazny says:

    Wow I am not a laywer, but I am pretty sure there is a difference, between requesting a recount under the laws of a paticular state, and filing a lawsuit. But perhaps our fake, laywer mother whatever he she it is would care to expand.


  229. Wilco says:

    Glory be to me!


  230. katy says:

    *
    Like the tearful House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), Bush needs to channel his bottled up emotions … – nico

    i KNEW it! … i got the distinct impression that boner was sloshed for that “tearful” episode… he was a cryin’ drunk…
    and i’m not the only one who thinks that…


  231. kevkev says:

    Blue Blood Inbreading!


  232. david says:

    This is what happened after Julian the Apostate. The Christians made a decision that pagan gods and goddesses would no longer be tolerated and so Theodosius declared Christianity the state religion and ordered the destruction or looting of all the sacred sites across the Empire. Theodosius, I might add, was also the last emperor of a united Roman Empire as it fell apart during his reign.


  233. Wilco says:

    You may now call me Wilco, God of Wilco!
    Now get me a Guinness!


  234. had enough says:

    valiant venus

    It is really too bad Bush was able to go to the Supreme Court and have those appointed by his father, Bush senior, to have the count stopped in Florida so he could become president.

    This is the beginning of the hell, the hell which will only worsen as long as Bush is left in office.


  235. nanlichi says:

    unbelievable,

    That was a little over the top. I was taking the extreme to prove a point. VV didn’t really do that with a Nativity scene, I don’t know anyone who would.

    It’s frustrating to try to have a rational discussion with the rabid right, and sometimes it’s fun to just piss them off. Pretty childish, I know.

    But you can’t have a discussion with a zealot who has made their mind up, and there is nothing that Bush could ever do to shake their faith. Like any good religious zealot, they refuse to consider that they may be wrong. That the Bible is not the word of God and should be read with a grain of salt and an eye to the fact that it was compiled thousands of years ago.

    It is intellectual dishonesty to take the teachings of any religion and say that it is the one and only “right” god. And it is dishonest to defend Bush’s every action.


  236. unbelievable says:

    Well, after you die you’ll find out that you’ll be spending a very painful eternity without God and in the company of the Satan.

    Prove it.

    The fact that you will not be able to prove it, anymore than you can prove the validity of invisible giraffes that go around biting people’s ears off for saying curse words… There is no proof of either one, so I reject them both, and all other such nonsense.

    Living in sin, blasphemy, not having your sins washed away by the blood of Christ,… it’s going to be bad for you.
    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 4:25 pm

    Sin? I’m the pacifist vegan… You’re the war-mongering hater. If there is such a thing as sin, I’m much safer than you. LOL

    I’ll take my chances. The odds are highly in my favor. And you’ll just have wasted your entire existence cowering in the corner because you got an erect!on in the boy’s locker room.


  237. TerrytheTurtle says:

    nanlichi – funny you should mention that…

    “Bush said: “God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, ” – and I thought the President derived his mandate from a majority of the Electoral College…?

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

    No WMD, no democracy, no ‘thousand points of light’ in Baghdad…. it was the voice in his head….. all the time, the voice in his head. Lindsay Lohan, pay attention here – Chimpy’s showing you how to take a ‘mulligan’ everyday.


  238. valiant venus says:

    Upside00 – I can’t wait to see a Dem adult perform to the best of their abilities. They will probably be as successful as Madeleine Albright in getting utterly fooled by the North Koreans. And who was any more friendly with the Chinese THAN President Clinton? The NYT could hold a cabinet position of the next Dem Administration and leak plans directly – sure beats wasting all the ink of printing up copies of newpapers. And who can forget Preisident Clinton’s robust respose to the terror STRIKES of the ’90s??


  239. Misinformed are we? says:

    Come on guys..give him a break. He has so much going on right now, every once in a while he has to remind himself who he is.


  240. Krazny says:

    Another interesting point, the trolls are going nuts about him making the point that he (Bush) is president, however this conversation was largely between friends and a private affair. I would think those in attendance would understand he is president. My thought being that Bush’s reaction was a little over the top, and sign of an ubalanced personality, much like his mentally impovrished supporters.


  241. Bluedog49 says:

    MAF54: “In our existential struggle it is important to stand by our leaders and trust them.”

    Pedophile, your statement is a spot-on paraphrase of one of Adolph Hitler’s most famous quotations.

    What on earth is it with these sociopathic Bush cultists. It’s unsettling how quickly they shed decency and fair play in service of their master. Teddy Roosevelt and the Geneva Conventions are “quaint????” Please. You’re all just like frightened and abused little children. Democracy is not for the faint of heart and you’re obviously not up to it. Can any of you imagine for just a moment how you would feel if a President you didn’t support tricked us into a war without end and thumped his chest screaming “I am the president!” What is the matter with you people?

    And, Valiant Venus, I hate to break it to you but it’s a fact that most of the people of Florida went to the polls intending to vote for Al Gore. It’s a fact that the Florida Supreme court ordered the entire state to recount. It’s a fact that if all the votes in Florida were counted, Gore would have won under any counting standard. And, it’s a fact that the Supreme Court halted the counting and appointed GW Bush president.


  242. Kiki says:

    Actually, Clinton WENT AFTER THEM. And let’s not forget that he also warned Chimpy McFlightsuit about OBL, too.

    This “blame Clinton” apologistic bulls–t is getting old.

    I’m looking forward to the Democratic Presidency in 2009. It’s going to be most refreshing once the adults are in charge.


  243. TerrytheTurtle says:

    And this thread’s ‘But, but, Clinton…!’ award goes to the poster with the dead baby jokes….


  244. valiant venus says:

    hadenuff – Spare me the sanctimonious Gore BS. If Al Gore were interested in WHO really won the popular vote in Florida why did he limit the re-count request to FOUR Dem counties. Hmmmm….you tiny hypocrite! (FYI – If the Dem-moron in Palm Beach County hadn’t mangled the design of the ballots….there never would have been a court battle……)


  245. Zooey says:

    Upside00 – I can’t wait to see a Dem adult perform to the best of their abilities.
    Comment by valiant venus

    That’s an interesting statement coming from you, Mighty Miss No Integrity.


  246. unbelievable says:

    “What is a wife to do when her daughter comes to here saying that Daddy has been raping her? You loyal shits would say, “he’s my husband and I will stay by him”
    Comment by nanlichi — May 31, 2007 @ 4:27 pm”

    That’s the perfect analogy for Bush having defiled this country and the trolls standing by him… Disgusting lot of ignorants.


  247. Bluedog49 says:

    “Living in sin, blasphemy, not having your sins washed away by the blood of Christ,… it’s going to be bad for you.”
    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 4:25 pm

    “In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.”

    Comment by Adolph Hitler, 1922

    As I say, Boy-bonker, you’ve got quite a lot in common with the Furherl.


  248. nanlichi says:

    Wilco,

    You had me at Guiness, a light went off and I worship you! Where do I send the kid’s college fund?

    Later good folks. Have a good weekend.


  249. unbelievable says:

    No such rapes take place in God-fearing families, so your entire point is moot.
    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 4:32 pm

    So all those priests who admitted to raping alter boys were lying?

    Isn’t that bearing false witness?


  250. Bluedog49 says:

    Valiant Venus: “They will probably be as successful as Madeleine Albright in getting utterly fooled by the North Koreans. And who was any more friendly with the Chinese THAN President Clinton?”

    Again, you continually surprise me by being even more uninformed and more absurd than I actually think you are. The Bush administration’s revised policy on dealing with Korea is almost identical to Clinton’s approach and George HW Bush was taking junkets with big businessmen to China long before Clinton ever took office. These days, Neil Bush is much more friendly with China than Clinton ever was. Furthermore, you must have been napping when it came out that this technology transfer thing was just another phony hoax perpetrated by conservatives trying to take Clinton down and prevent Gore from becoming president.


  251. Wayne says:

    Wow, the trolls are really maxing drug use today. They are as insane as Chimpy


  252. unbelievable says:

    “I like the philosophy of Jesus much better than the philosophy behind Christianity.
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 4:40 pm”

    I think the peace and love Christians would agree. The problem is that they tolerate the fire and brimstone Christians instead of revoking their memmbership, and they seem to be more unified than they actually are.

    I have deeply religious friends. They just focus on the peace and love stuff and ignore the rest too. It’s probably why they aren’t miserable hypocrites like our resident trolls. And one of theses friends routinely disses the “negative” Christians. She thinks that it’s her responsibility to her god…


  253. Bluedog49 says:

    “No such rapes take place in God-fearing families, so your entire point is moot.”

    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 4:32 pm

    Boy-bonker, have you even read the Old Testament?


  254. MAF54 says:

    #237: You betray your ignorance of Christianity. It doesn’t matter what you have done (good or bad, vegan or no vegan) – it’s all about believing in the blood of Christ washing away all the sins. Alone you can never be that perfect creation God expects you to be, but with Christ taking away your sins, you can appear as one. If you don’t accept Christ in your heart, it doesn’t matter what you do – you’ll never be good enough and you will be cast into hell.


  255. unbelievable says:

    “Megan, eh? I had a different first name for MA….
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 4:43 pm”

    LOL

    It’s off her MySpace page… Click on VVGFU’s name…


  256. unbelievable says:

    Not saying that all Christians are Bush supporters, but all Bush supporters are Christian.
    Comment by nanlichi — May 31, 2007 @ 4:48 pm

    Precisely!

    The ones I know who support him do so mostly because of their Christianity…


  257. MAF54 says:

    #251: Mmm…. percocet is good indeed.


  258. Bluedog49 says:

    Unbelievable: “I’ll take my chances. The odds are highly in my favor. And you’ll just have wasted your entire existence cowering in the corner because you got an erect!on in the boy’s locker room.”

    Unbelievable, you are so frickin right on!!!


  259. had enough says:

    hadenuff – Spare me the sanctimonious Gore BS. If Al Gore were interested in WHO really won the popular vote in Florida why did he limit the re-count request to FOUR Dem counties. Hmmmm….you tiny hypocrite! (FYI – If the Dem-moron in Palm Beach County hadn’t mangled the design of the ballots….there never would have been a court battle……)

    Comment by valiant venus

    such crap and you know it. The core of this issue is Gore actually won, not why this or why that. The Bush senior appointed Supreme Court made moron psychopath Bush president – the beginning of a broken constitution, and look where we are now. Only the oober rich and the very stupid can possibly support what we have today.


  260. unbelievable says:

    If moonbats are so “rare”, why are you so scared sh*tless? R*t*rd.
    Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 4:47 pm

    Touche!


  261. Bluedog49 says:

    Boy-bonker: “it’s all about believing in the blood of Christ washing away all the sins”

    It’s a bloody, cult-of-death, that’s what it is. You worship an image of a man being tortured to death. You drink his blood and eat his flesh. You hate the 50% of our human family which brings life and nurtures young. You fight wars in his name and slaughter unbelievers and apostates. And, what’s worse, you ignore the central messages in his gospels. Nobody’s going to hell, dumbass. You’re already in hell.


  262. unbelievable says:

    Theodosius, I might add, was also the last emperor of a united Roman Empire as it fell apart during his reign.
    Comment by david — May 31, 2007 @ 4:57 pm

    Now that sounds like something a Pantheist would say :)


  263. gummitch says:

    #237: You betray your ignorance of Christianity. It doesn’t matter what you have done (good or bad, vegan or no vegan) – it’s all about believing in the blood of Christ washing away all the sins. Alone you can never be that perfect creation God expects you to be, but with Christ taking away your sins, you can appear as one. If you don’t accept Christ in your heart, it doesn’t matter what you do – you’ll never be good enough and you will be cast into hell.

    Comment by MAF54

    And you’re criticizing someone else for an ignorance of Christianity?

    You might want to re-read (assuming you read them once) the Beatitudes. Especially note number seven.

    And this is Jesus talking:

    Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7:1-5 RSV)

    “Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give alms, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.” (Matthew 6:1-6 RSV)


  264. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Currently VVGFU is advertizing Ivy League boy, Jason Fact Mangler….


  265. dbadass says:

    MAF54:
    Please get back to me re: 221. You losing me as you seemed to suggest it was all just faith with no basis in worldly realities yet you seem to be suggesting that this Christianity deal is the only option which is valid. I can’t follow the logic. Also, although I have asked before, you still have not explained the use of a moniker which seems entirely unfitting for a “god-fearing” individual. Old school Mormonism may have codified pedaphilia but modern Mormons do not. Personally I find the MAF54 deal in bad taste and believe it is solely intended to provoke and annoy but I do not know. Maybe it is some Christian thing like WWJD


  266. TerrytheTurtle says:

    It’s a bloody, cult-of-death, that’s what it is. You worship an image of a man being tortured to death. You drink his blood and eat his flesh. You hate the 50% of our human family which brings life and nurtures young. You fight wars in his name and slaughter unbelievers and apostates. And, what’s worse, you ignore the central messages in his gospels. Nobody’s going to hell, dumbass. You’re already in hell.

    Comment by Bluedog49 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:29 pm

    Jesus H Christ, sounds more like Joe Bob Briggs and Monstervision – gotta get me a cold one and kick back.


  267. Zooey says:

    Mmm…. percocet is good indeed.
    Comment by MAF54

    That explains A LOT.


  268. justice says:

    hey flaco

    Who has the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world? Who is the only country to ever use nuclear power?
    Who has the largest nuclear energy production capacity?

    you are incredibly dense. We can not go around the world DICTATING to others what they can or can not do when WE are the biggest producers of the very things we want to deny them. Nuclear energy production is not only for weapons moron.
    Russia tested a cruise missle today as a warning to the US

    WAKE UP
    Diplomacy and negotiated peace is the only answer and it has to start with US.


  269. unbelievable says:

    You may now call me Wilco, God of Wilco!
    Now get me a Guinness!
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 4:58 pm

    Shouldn’t you just be able to, oh, let’s say, create one? :D


  270. Zooey says:

    You might want to re-read (assuming you read them once) the Beatitudes. Especially note number seven.
    Comment by gummitch

    You might as well bang your head on your desk, gummitch.


  271. Bluedog49 says:

    “Mmm…. percocet is good indeed.”
    Comment by MAF54

    That’s the quality of remaining Bush cultists: drug-adled, boy-bonking sociopaths.


  272. Bluedog49 says:

    Sorry if I offended you, Terry. The boy-bonker drives me up the wall.


  273. Arn Gunnutes says:

    You betray your ignorance of Christianity. It doesn’t matter what you have done (good or bad, vegan or no vegan) – it’s all about believing in the blood of Christ washing away all the sins. Alone you can never be that perfect creation God expects you to be, but with Christ taking away your sins, you can appear as one. If you don’t accept Christ in your heart, it doesn’t matter what you do – you’ll never be good enough and you will be cast into hell.
    Comment by MAF54

    So, Mightie,

    George Bush CLAIMS to be a “christian” and “saved”…

    Let’s be HYPOTHETICAL here:

    If Bush turned out to have LIED about WMD, the “surge”, etc., he will have the blood of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of humans (US and Iraq) on his hands.

    QUESTION:

    Does claiming to be “saved” STOP such a person from GOING TO HELL if they were MURDERERS and LIARS and therefore NOT following the teachings of

    Jesus Christ???

    BRING IT ON!!!


  274. celtic cynic says:

    re #227: I didn’t read far enough into the article. Sorry about that.
    Looks like we’re in deep shit, again for a long, long time.


  275. gummitch says:

    You may now call me Wilco, God of Wilco!
    Now get me a Guinness!
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 4:58 pm

    Shouldn’t you just be able to, oh, let’s say, create one? :D

    Comment by unbelievable

    Must be a false god. A real god would find something better to drink than Guinness.


  276. gummitch says:

    You might as well bang your head on your desk, gummitch.

    Comment by Zooey

    I’d have to clear it off first, and I haven’t got a spare week to do that. Hard to believe any work gets done around here.


  277. Publicus says:

    I’m not amused. I sincerely believe he may be losing his mind.


  278. unbelievable says:

    “That was a little over the top. I was taking the extreme to prove a point. VV didn’t really do that with a Nativity scene, I don’t know anyone who would. ”

    Oh, I thought I’d missed the news that day. Besides, if someone did – it wouldn’t stay like that for long. Some foaming-at-the-mouth zealot would destroy it.

    “It’s frustrating to try to have a rational discussion with the rabid right, and sometimes it’s fun to just piss them off. Pretty childish, I know.”

    Agreed… Well, I did call Jesus a douche bag… That puts us in similar company I suppose :)

    “But you can’t have a discussion with a zealot who has made their mind up, and there is nothing that Bush could ever do to shake their faith. Like any good religious zealot, they refuse to consider that they may be wrong. That the Bible is not the word of God and should be read with a grain of salt and an eye to the fact that it was compiled thousands of years ago.”

    I agree. My comments are not for them, they are for those who want to know that they are not alone in rejecting religion. CNN did a report on how Atheists are the most hated demographic in our country. I think it’s important to be vocal to support one another. In my real life, I’m less rabid about it, obviously, but I if someone says “God bless you” to me after I’ve done something nice, I politely tell them I don’t believe in a god. I want them to see that we aren’t evil, that we are real people without boils and warts covering our bodies, and that we are nice.

    “It is intellectual dishonesty to take the teachings of any religion and say that it is the one and only “right” god. And it is dishonest to defend Bush’s every action.
    Comment by nanlichi — May 31, 2007 @ 4:58 pm”

    Well said… And true. And it’s why I’m so persistent about quoting the parts of the bible that show the fallability of the religion. It’s a lot harder to shove it doen our throats when we know it better than they do.


  279. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Sorry if I offended you, Terry. The boy-bonker drives me up the wall.

    Comment by Bluedog49 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

    No offense taken, I called on Joe Bob to add weight to your imagery of the dark side of post-Theodosian Christianity…. better than a B-grade horror flick for sure.


  280. Yikes says:

    Oh Wilco my God!! You have given me a new curse word that I have been looking for. When I stub my toe or my dog pisses on the veggies I won’t ever say ‘Jesus Christ’. Now I can say ‘Roger Wilco’!

    Or, in response to some buffoons like MAF54 I can now respond, ‘Roger Wilco are you an idiot or what’.

    I drink Pislner Urquell, I hope that doesn’t send me to hell Wilco.


  281. upside00 says:

    Zoo,

    Do you get the funny feeling that the trolls are all lining up waiting for the Rapture? If so, it explains a lot about all the non-Chistian behavior going on.

    Kinda scary, isn’t it??


  282. Shane says:

    Shane #129 ~ Wow, you sound just like the Church lady!

    Comment by RUCerious

    And who does virulent vagrant sound like, hmmm? Does she sound like … S A T A N?


  283. unbelievable says:

    You betray your ignorance of Christianity.

    Actually,it’s my understanding of Christianity that scares you. I used to be like you and then I read the whole bible and now I reject what you risk your entire existence on obeying.

    It doesn’t matter what you have done (good or bad, vegan or no vegan) – it’s all about believing in the blood of Christ washing away all the sins.

    My Catholic friends disagree with you. They believe it’s about actions and not beliefs.

    I really don’t care either way because the threat of something that isn’t real doesn’t motivate or compell me.

    Alone you can never be that perfect creation God expects you to be, but with Christ taking away your sins, you can appear as one.

    I reject all of that baggage as well. I know I am human, I don’t look for perfection from yself when I know it isn’t possible.

    If you don’t accept Christ in your heart, it doesn’t matter what you do – you’ll never be good enough and you will be cast into hell.
    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:20 pm

    You mean the hell that you cannot prove.

    Sorry, you might as well threaten me with Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Millions of children believe in them. Does that automatically make them so? (Hint: Not even close). Belief of millions in a ridiculous notion doesn’t make it a good idea.


  284. unbelievable says:

    Unbelievable, you are so frickin right on!!!
    Comment by Bluedog49 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:25 pm

    Your post at 262 is pretty dead on as well :D


  285. unbelievable says:

    Currently VVGFU is advertizing Ivy League boy, Jason Fact Mangler….
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 5:32 pm

    LOL

    I’m sure he’d be happy to post MegAn’s web address when he reads this…. :D


  286. Flaco says:

    Nuclear energy production is not only for weapons moron.
    Russia tested a cruise missle today as a warning to the US

    WAKE UP
    Diplomacy and negotiated peace is the only answer and it has to start with US.

    Comment by justice

    Iran’s mullahs want nuclear power for energy? Right.
    You seem to forget about Israel asshat. We do not have the time to wait till u wake up.


  287. unbelievable says:

    Must be a false god. A real god would find something better to drink than Guinness.
    Comment by gummitch — May 31, 2007 @ 5:44 pm

    LOL


  288. Wayne says:

    If you don’t accept Christ in your heart, it doesn’t matter what you do – you’ll never be good enough and you will be cast into hell.
    Comment by MAF54

    What does Jesus say about your posing as a known pedophile?
    Somehow you talking christianity and being a pedophile doesn’t match, unless you are a catholic priest, heh.
    Sounds hypocritical, just saying….


  289. Flaco says:

    It is intellectual dishonesty to take the teachings of any religion and say that it is the one and only “right” god. And it is dishonest to defend Bush’s every action.
    Comment by nanlichi — May 31, 2007 @ 4:58 pm”

    Well said… And true. And it’s why I’m so persistent about quoting the parts of the bible that show the fallability of the religion. It’s a lot harder to shove it doen our throats when we know it better than they do.

    Comment by unbelievable

    80% of Americans believe the bible is the inspired word of God.
    TP is 20% that do not.


  290. Wilco says:

    Shouldn’t you just be able to, oh, let’s say, create one? :D

    Comment by unbelievable

    I create it and then have a lovely maiden bring it to me.
    And gummitch, if I weren’t drinking, I’d smite you for your heresy.
    And nan, I know you’re gone, but you’re playing by different rules, friend, than the faithful. All religion is necessarily intellectually dishonest, as intellect has nothing to do with it. Religion is faith. Science is observable phenomena; religion is unobservable phenomena. You simply can’t reason religion (not to put it down). Religion operates outside of reason/logic as it is faith-based, it’s founded upon the unseen and unseeable.


  291. Wilco says:

    And the lack of proof of a thing does not mean it’s untrue.


  292. Flaco says:

    This summer TPs should take a tour of Washington DC area and take note on all the federal goverment buildings, memorials that have some type of reference to God/bible.

    You might learn something about our US history.


  293. TerrytheTurtle says:

    “Iran’s mullahs want nuclear power for energy? Right.” – Flaco

    Let’s see, Iran already is a net importer of gasoline and why is it ridiculous to suggest that Iran seeks nuclear power for energy when the US itself is talking about upping it’s nuke energy program to account for an energy shortfall?

    Of course you do remember that the Shah wanted nuclear power too and the United States was more than happy to help him…..

    Israel? So what – they can take care of themselves with their 300 nukes. Their history of running an apartheid state and preemptively invading their neighbors would make their possession of nukes perhaps more suggestive of a being regional troublemaker, huh? USS Liberty anyone?


  294. Arn Gunnutes says:

    If you don’t accept Christ in your heart, it doesn’t matter what you do – you’ll never be good enough and you will be cast into hell.
    Comment by MAF54

    Again, Mitey, if GW Bush CALLS himself “saved” but then goes and LIES and MURDERS, thus NOT following Jesus’ word,

    WILL HE GO TO HELL???

    I say “yes”.

    BRING IT ON!!


  295. Katmanatter says:

    JV wrote: “He will probably become even more and more unhinged over the next few months.”

    No doubt. THEN what’s the petulant madman likely to do? Should we wait and see, or arrest him now?

    “He [Bush] also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.” ”

    Who the hell is Bush to define “our country’s destiny”? Does anyone agree? Since when is occupying Iraq “our country’s destiny”? Spurious George is on his own trip, a megalomaniac who uses everything and everyone to fulfill his personal fantasies of becoming Galactic Overlord.

    “The President in an extended whine, a rant, actually, about no one understands him, the critics are all messed up, if only people would see what he’s doing things would be OK…”

    Since he does most things in secret, how are we supposed to understand the creature? AND we can see his weak spot: going ballistic when he’s criticized, because criticism carries the risk of someone calling Bush a failure, and that’s the last thing he wants to hear. So, want to bring the madman down? Just keep telling him to his face that he’s a failure. Instead of triggering a nuclear war or declaring martial law, he’ll just melt down into a blubbering, gibbering, mindless sack of protoplasm.


  296. Flaco says:

    Well said… And true. And it’s why I’m so persistent about quoting the parts of the bible that show the fallability of the religion. It’s a lot harder to shove it doen our throats when we know it better than they do.

    Comment by unbelievable

    U have not shown any fallabilty asshat except in your own mind idiot.
    No one is shoving anything down your throat. I feel for the poor brainwashed idiots you feed your self righteous bile to.


  297. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Flaco or f***o or whatever:

    “Only 40 percent of Americans can name more than four of the Ten Commandments, and a scant half can cite any of the four authors of the Gospels. Twelve percent believe Joan of Arc was Noah’s wife. This failure to recall the specifics of our Christian heritage may be further evidence of our nation’s educational decline, but it probably doesn’t matter all that much in spiritual or political terms. Here is a statistic that does matter: Three quarters of Americans believe the Bible teaches that “God helps those who help themselves.” That is, three out of four Americans believe that this uber-American idea, a notion at the core of our current individualist politics and culture, which was in fact uttered by Ben Franklin, actually appears in Holy Scripture. The thing is, not only is Franklin’s wisdom not biblical; it’s counter-biblical. Few ideas could be further from the gospel message, with its radical summons to love of neighbor. On this essential matter, most Americans—most American Christians—are simply wrong, as if 75 percent of American scientists believed that Newton proved gravity causes apples to fly up. ”

    Don’t put much store in Americans knowing ‘jack’ about your bible.

    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2005/08/0080695


  298. upside00 says:

    #281 I drink Pislner Urquell, I hope that doesn’t send me to hell Wilco. Yikes

    I just got back from Prague 2 days ago and drank a LOT of Pilsner Urquell, so I will going to Hell with you!!!


  299. JM says:

    You’d think ONE reporter would have the stones to keep after Bush to the point where he loses it. Yeah, he might lose his White House pass, but think of the residuals!


  300. Flaco says:

    unbelievable – knuckle dragging ape still evolving


  301. Saintperle says:

    Chimp-like behavior indeed!

    Perhaps Jane Goodall should have been a White House correspondent all these past years.

    I’m sort of surprised he didn’t start flinging fecal matter at his doubters.

    Well, he actually does, but he calls it “security.” Or “just joking.”

    But that laugh!
    Something like a cross between a chimp and Norman Bates!


  302. Flaco says:

    Irans mullahs have different goals than Shah terrythedipshit


  303. TerrytheTurtle says:

    U have not shown any fallabilty (in the bible sic) asshat except in your own mind idiot.

    knuckle dragging ape still evolving

    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:15 pm

    And for the second time today gently shake my head and say ‘Oh the irony!’


  304. unbelievable says:

    80% of Americans believe the bible is the inspired word of God.
    TP is 20% that do not.
    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:04 pm

    Your numbers are wrong. About 15% are Atheists and Agnostics. Then there are Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. It’s more like 70% who call themselves Christian. Of that, Catholics take a non-literal approach to the bible, therefore reducing your number significantly. By the time you get down to people who share your views – you’re about the same as those who share mine. Your side has just been more vocal and persistent about it. Until now…


  305. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Prove it f***wit.


  306. Wilco says:

    Flaco, are you seriously arguing everything in the Bible is the word of God?
    That’s fine if you do, really, I could care less what you believe. But damn, there are some strict laws in there. I’d be really impressed if you were able to follow them all.
    I sin every day I put on my cotton/polyester blend shirt.
    I never play football because my family must stone me if I touch the skin of a pig.
    Seriously, there’s a ton of those.
    And that’s fine if you believe that to be the word of God, and all. Great. But I’m guessing you don’t really pay attention to those laws God gave us, and really focus more on the “hate the gays,” bomb the crap out of everyone you don’t like parts….well, the war part doesn’t exist. But you know Jesus hated those A-rabs, and really wanted them wiped off the face of the earth. I think it was Commandment 11: Though shalt blow up all a-rabs


  307. Flaco says:

    TerrytheTurtle
    Don’t put much store in Americans knowing ‘jack’ about your bible.

    It is not my bible fool.


  308. unbelievable says:

    And the lack of proof of a thing does not mean it’s untrue.
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:08 pm

    Sure for things that are logical… The Christian argument for their god is not logical.


  309. Zooey says:

    Zoo,
    Do you get the funny feeling that the trolls are all lining up waiting for the Rapture? If so, it explains a lot about all the non-Chistian behavior going on.
    Kinda scary, isn’t it??
    Comment by upside00

    Terrifying!

    Although, I’m beginning to think that if the “Rapture” happens the way it’s supposed to — we won’t notice much difference around here…..


  310. justice says:

    no flaco, we do not have time for YOU 28% to wake up. We have to ignore your low IQ asses and get busy with diplomacy and out of this ineffective and disastrous military approach to handling these global issues.
    Diplomatic approaches are our only hope.

    You dumb wingers don’t even realize that your dumbass military approach has NO CHANCE of success, we do NOT have the soliders to carry it off even if we tried.
    This is what has brought us to this point, this narrow minded, uneducated completely lacking in morals and cultural understanding approach to the world.

    WE use nuclear power for energy, it is a necessity, not only for us but also for our ENEMIES. If you are so far removed from reality that you don’t comprehend that nuclear power has various purposes and applications Im not suprised.
    You guys think nuclear=weapons and your thinking stops there.
    the dumbing down of America resulted in you morons.
    it’s downright depressing.
    Thank god reality based thinkers out number you clowns 3 to 1.
    Say buh bye to any chance at a Rethug president for the next 50 years at least and don’t let the door hit you on your sorry ass.


  311. Flaco says:

    WILL HE GO TO HELL???

    I say “yes”.

    BRING IT ON!!

    Comment by Arn Gunnutes

    It does not matter what u say idiot.


  312. Bluedog49 says:

    Flako: “You might learn something about our US history.”

    You want some history? Here’s some history for you:

    “The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

    Flako: “80% of Americans believe the bible is the inspired word of God.”

    And, an even greater percentage of Romans felt Galileo was a heretic. What’s your point? That ignorance is like a disease? We know that.


  313. Wilco says:

    Oh wait, no, he was the “Prince of Peace.”
    That’s right. Now I remember my Sunday School teachings.
    “Turn the other cheek” and all….


  314. unbelievable says:

    This summer TPs should take a tour of Washington DC area and take note on all the federal goverment buildings, memorials that have some type of reference to God/bible.
    You might learn something about our US history.
    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:08 pm

    Boy that shows YOUR ignorance. Most of the Founding Fathers were Deists who found Christianity unacceptable.

    The god crap was added to public property, money ansd the pledge during the McCarthy Communist scare in the mid-1950’s.

    You’re definitely not smarter than a 5th grader…


  315. Bluedog49 says:

    Flako: “knuckle dragging ape still evolving”

    So, you believe in evolution?


  316. Jesus H Christ says:

    Although, I’m beginning to think that if the “Rapture” happens the way it’s supposed to — we won’t notice much difference around here…..

    Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

    Who is to say that it has not already happened? Not only does the Lord move in mysterious ways, but he also has a sense of humor.

    Anyhoo, best of luck for the…. oh f*** gave it away again.


  317. bogtrotters says:

    Ahem. The topic is the President. Who is insane.


  318. Merlin says:

    #310 Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

    Although, I’m beginning to think that if the “Rapture” happens the way it’s supposed to — we won’t notice much difference around here…..

    Hi Zooey!

    Beautiful!!! Wish I had thought about it that way!


  319. Wilco says:

    Un, that’s my point.
    There is no logical argument for something that can’t be proven to exist.
    You can’t prove or disprove the existence of a god.
    So logic doesn’t play a part in it. It’s faith. Like your friends, as you say. Of course they too have no logical argument for a belief in the existence of God.
    And Pilsner?
    Anything you drink is fine. Do whatever you want. Just remember to send me something on my birthday. But really, I prefer you drink something imported.


  320. Arn Gunnutes says:

    WILL HE GO TO HELL???

    I say “yes”.

    BRING IT ON!!

    Comment by Arn Gunnutes

    It does not matter what u say idiot.

    Comment by Flaco

    Nor does it matter what YOU say, Nazi…

    TRAITOR Bush is a MURDERER coxucker PUNK who will BURN IN HELL!!!

    Anyway, for the ADULTS of the forum, WHO thinks Bush calling himself “saved” while LYING and MURDERING will

    KEEP HIM FROM HELL, as he is NOT following the teachings of Jesus???


  321. unbelievable says:

    U have not shown any fallabilty asshat except in your own mind idiot.

    Exceptions prove the rule…

    No one is shoving anything down your throat. I feel for the poor brainwashed idiots you feed your self righteous bile to.
    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:13 pm

    I honestly don’t even know how to explain to you that you are doing it right now by trying to stop me from espousing my views… You don’t get it because you don’t want to get it.


  322. Bluedog49 says:

    unbelievable: “Boy that shows YOUR ignorance. Most of the Founding Fathers were Deists who found Christianity unacceptable.”

    Aint that the truth.

    Thomas Jefferson: “I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.”

    James Madison: “During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.”

    John Adams: “As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?”

    And, believe me, you don’t want to know how Thomas Paine and Benjamin Franklin felt about it.


  323. justice says:

    unbelievable,

    hey, you give him a lot there, fifth grade?

    He has the intellectual ability of a preschooler…maybe


  324. Bluedog49 says:

    Zooey, you’ll know because there will be free clothes and jewlery laying around and a lot fewer a-holes.


  325. Zooey says:

    Anyhoo, best of luck for the…. oh f*** gave it away again.
    Comment by Jesus H Christ

    See how you are, J. Herbert?


  326. unbelievable says:

    And for the second time today gently shake my head and say ‘Oh the irony!’
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    I bet he doesn’t even get it, because he’s never actually read Genesis to see that the bible claims incorrectly that the Earth was created in the same week as the rest of the universe, when, in fact, the Earth didn’t appear until several billion years after the Big Bang. And, the bible defines a day as an actual day – as in ’sun setting and sun rising equals one day’, so he can’t claim that a week actually meant eons…


  327. Flaco says:

    You’re definitely not smarter than a 5th grader…

    Comment by unbelievable

    I seem to recall some early US historical documents way before 1950 that were signed “in the year of our Lord” at the bottom. What Lord are they referring to?

    You are such an unbelievable idiot.


  328. Wilco says:

    Bluedog, there will be a higher concentration of a-holes! Those guys ain’t goin nowhere!
    It’s the good christians invited to the party.

    But what is the biblical inspiration for this belief, anyway?
    My understanding is it was some 19th century preacher who came up with it.


  329. Jesus H Christ says:

    My advice to you Bluedog49 – don’t tailgate those SUVs with the fish stickers and the yellow ribbons. 2 car gap may not be enough.


  330. johnny doughey says:

    not to worry…. it’s probably just a relapse, and everyone knows by now that relapse is sometimes part of recovery.
    Anyone out there willing to do an intervention on this guy?


  331. Zooey says:

    Hi Zooey!
    Beautiful!!! Wish I had thought about it that way!
    Comment by Merlin

    Hi Merlin! :)

    Heh, thanks. The Rapture is a big thing around these parts, and like JHC says, it may have happened already but no one noticed cuz……well…


  332. Bluedog49 says:

    bogtrotter: “Ahem. The topic is the President. Who is insane.”

    And, the insane emperor with no clothes has his insane fanatical followers here spewing their religious fanatacism at us like brainwashed robots.


  333. unbelievable says:

    I think it was Commandment 11: Though shalt blow up all a-rabs
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    LOL!

    Though, it’s a little advertized fact that the bible has two different sets of commandments. The first set, which Moses destroyed in a temper tantrum, and then the second set which have to do with boiling a kid in it’s mother’s blood or some such etiqutte and cooking tips. I think Exodus 20 is one and 32 the other.


  334. Mrs.Beasley says:

    Back at comment 37 this was said There’s no surprise here. GDumbya has acted like this during his whole presi-duncy, no doubt. The only difference is that news is being leaked out about it now from some of the 28-percenters who are having second thoughts about the moron . . . finally.

    The described behavior is typical of an active alcoholic like GDumbya — feelings of persecution, resentments, ego and inability to deal with reality.

    GDumbya’s just been getting deep into the Jack Daniels again. That’s all it is. Now move along — there’s nothing to see here.

    Comment by Tom — May 31, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

    Tom,
    There is a condition called Dry Drunk Syndrome where the person is an alchoholic, but is not currently drinking, but still exhibits the pathological behavior of an alcoholic. IIRC It shows up more often in alcoholics that quit because of mystical religious experiences.

    As to all those who want him gone. Please for the love of all that is Holy take Cheney out of the line of sucession, before you do it. GWB may be a psycopath, but Cheney is a sociopath and very possibly even more dangerous.


  335. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Bluedog – you’ll find most serious scientific thinkers and Enlightenment politicians come down on the side of being ‘functional atheists’ – referring to God, perhaps as a ‘divine watchmaker’ but not relying on God for anything other than the gift of rational thought. Except perhaps for Newton – he made Howard Hughes look rational.

    Take old Einstein – people argue that he’s for God when he says ‘God doesn’t play dice with the Universe’. Not true, he’s merely giving argument to his position on the fundamental strangeness of quantum theory.


  336. Flaco says:

    How about the fairy tale were Jesus is raised from the dead after being crucified?


  337. Wilco says:

    Flaco, “in the year of our lord” as a phrase was started many many years before the U.S. started up, as a way to differentiate between A.D. (anno domini, or the year of our lord) and B.C. (before christ). It was The Church that started it up, all of our European allies and business partners used it as well, so of course America followed suit. Or are you suggesting that if the founders were truly not avid Christians, they would have come up with some other way of numbering years. Maybe, P.D. (post Declaration).
    And I’m hitting myself because I know you will either not respond, call me an a–hat, an idiot, dumb, or whatever, because again, you never contribute anything of any substance, just vitriol.


  338. Flaco says:

    You’re definitely not smarter than a 5th grader…

    Comment by unbelievable

    I seem to recall some early US historical documents way before 1950 that were signed “in the year of our Lord” at the bottom. What Lord are they referring to?

    You are such an unbelievable idiot.


  339. Wilco says:

    Un, you’re suggesting one set of Commandments was baby baking recipes?
    Twisted, but funny


  340. unbelievable says:

    You can’t prove or disprove the existence of a god.

    I think you can demonstrate that the Christian god is impossible.

    Victor Stenger does an excellent job in “God: The Failed Hypothesis”.

    For me, the whole creation premise is enough. Not only is there an utter lack of intelligent design, but in order for Creation to be the premise, the creator whould have had to have been created by a more superior being ad infinitum, which violates the laws of nature.

    So logic doesn’t play a part in it. It’s faith. Like your friends, as you say. Of course they too have no logical argument for a belief in the existence of God.

    I think it’s all about logic. Call me a realist, but hey, I’ve been called worse :D

    But really, I prefer you drink something imported.
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:29 pm

    I’m sure Flaco is obedient… He drinks the blood of Iraqi civilians. Maybe just figuratively, but who am I to argue semantics :)


  341. Bluedog49 says:

    Flaco, our nation is, by law, not a christian nation. The Treaty of Tripoli was signed in 1797, I believe, and was passed in the Senate by UNANIMOUS vote. The legislators included many of the men who signed the Consitution. Your sheep herders have been lying to you. You call us idiots and you admonish us for not knowing history. Well, there’s some history for you. The Treaty of Tripoli is still the law of the land.

    I’m guessing they got to you at an early age and you didn’t have the will or the mental capability to see beyond your brainwashing. You were probably home schooled by religious fanatics who made sure you got a very skewed view of American history. You don’t seem to know thing one about the Founders of our country.


  342. Jesus H Christ says:

    Anyhoo, best of luck for the…. oh f*** gave it away again.
    Comment by Jesus H Christ

    See how you are, J. Herbert?

    Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

    Got four Hail Marys, two Our Fathers and a half a bar of soap for that one… see ya later…

    Oh and Bluedog49 – try not to tailgate on July 4th especially. No particular reason :) – a lot of accidents do happen after the fireworks and so on… you know…


  343. upside00 says:

    Zoo,

    It is truly amazing to watch how this thread about the continuing unraveling of Dubya and the NeoCon Flying Circus has turned into Theology 101!!

    Guess the trolls have no where else to turn except their blind faith in something beyond their control, ergo, taking no responsibility for their lives.


  344. valiant venus says:

    “But you can’t have a discussion with a zealot who has made their mind up, and there is nothing that (the Left) could ever do to shake their belief. Like any good (ideologue), they refuse to consider that they may be wrong. ”

    Thank you, for describing the rabid Left (whose entrnched egos and ideologies forced poor Cindy Sheehan back to Petaluma…)


  345. Shane says:

    You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet….Watch me collect termites on a twig….

    Comment by G. W. Bush — May 31, 2007 @ 4:37 pm

    Hey! Hey! DO NOT DO THAT WITH THAT BANANA! Hey, Georgie, I said DO NOT, hey, YOU STOP THAT RIGHT NOW OR ELSE …


  346. Wilco says:

    Blasphemers are funny


  347. TerrytheTurtle says:

    How about the fairy tale were Jesus is raised from the dead after being crucified?

    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:43 pm

    Old JC should have been smacked with a plagiarism suit faster than you can change water into wine for that one – Osiris pulled that stunt thousands of years before him…. nothing special about that yarn.


  348. Alejandro says:

  349. unbelievable says:

    I seem to recall some early US historical documents way before 1950 that were signed “in the year of our Lord” at the bottom. What Lord are they referring to?

    The god of Deism, which is different than the god of Christianity. Though they actually called their god “The Creator”. They didn’t use the word Lord.

    The Deist god is believed to have set the universe in motion and them bowed out, allowing the natural laws to take over.

    You are such an unbelievable idiot.
    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:35 pm

    If this is your argument, you might as well leave now…


  350. Flaco says:

    Flaco, our nation is, by law, not a christian nation

    Never said it was fool.


  351. Zooey says:

    Anyone out there willing to do an intervention on this guy?
    Comment by johnny doughey

    As long as he doesn’t push any buttons labelled “Nook-you-ler” and shuts up, he can keep doing what he’s doing.

    Another Scotch, Chimpy…?


  352. Bluedog49 says:

    Terry, that’s a great example of how religious fanatics take quotations out of context to “prove” something. That Einstein quote has been used so often that I’m sure he’s spinning in his grave. Einstein was somewhere between athiest and 1% agnostic.

    And, yes Flaco, the resurrection is a interesting story. What’s your point? Job’s is an interesting story too. And, I especially like the story about how the crowd wanted to rape two angels and Lott offered the crowd his daughters instead. One of my favorites.


  353. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Comment by Mrs.Beasley — May 31, 2007 @ 6:42 pm

    Dry drunk – right on and right on point…..


  354. Zooey says:

    Guess the trolls have no where else to turn except their blind faith in something beyond their control, ergo, taking no responsibility for their lives.
    Comment by upside00

    The definition of intellectual suicide.

    *sigh*


  355. unbelievable says:

    Un, you’re suggesting one set of Commandments was baby baking recipes?
    Twisted, but funny
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:45 pm

    Not suggesting… Recalling :D

    Kid as in a baby goat, by the way.

    From Exodus 34:
    26The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother’s milk.


  356. Bluedog49 says:

    OK, let’s review. Flaco believes in evolution and doesn’t think we have a christian nation.

    Flaco, there’s no need for anyone to argue with you. You beat yourself up pretty nicely.


  357. Flaco says:

    Wilco, would you sign a document that said “in the year of our Lord”
    if you thought it was a fairy tale?


  358. TerrytheTurtle says:

    And what about that one where the boy sells the cow for a handful of beans and climbs up to the top of one after his mom whoops him upside the head and…. oh, that was written after the Council of Nicea. Pity, its a lot more fun to read than all that ’smiting’ and ‘taking of foreskins’.


  359. unbelievable says:

    And, believe me, you don’t want to know how Thomas Paine and Benjamin Franklin felt about it.
    Comment by Bluedog49 — May 31, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

    Great quotes!

    Paine is on my reading list… :D


  360. Dano says:

    Bush, like him or loath him, will be President for the next year and a half. Maybe longer.
    He is most definately in over his head, but most madmen are. He keeps backing himself farther and farther into a corner and, I’m sorry to say, sooner or later HE WILL LASH OUT! I just hope that someone will be there to stop his madness, but I expect that outcome to be very doubtful since all he surrounds himself with is “Yes Men” and people who are even morally corrupt than himself.
    Personaly, I believe that his people will engineer “an incident” so he can use the powers he granted himseld on May 7th. That little piece of Execuative Proclamation, if unchallenged will give him the power to take over the Government, declare Martial Law, call off the elections and dismiss congress.
    So, when he starts thumping on his chest, we all need to be VERY, VERY AFRAID.


  361. Wilco says:

    Un, he is right, it’s not a reference to some unnamed God. It’s Jesus. But it’s ok to admit that. Really.
    It’s still meaningless. It’s not considered in synch with when Jesus was actually born. It’s believed off by a few years.
    But it does reference Jesus.
    Oh, and you can say that Flaco is arguing that non-christians must be hypocrites by using 2007 to date anything as well, given that it’s based on the alleged year of Jesus’s birth.


  362. unbelievable says:

    How about the fairy tale were Jesus is raised from the dead after being crucified?
    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:43 pm

    Here’s a task for you – go read the four Gospels that recount this event. They do not agree. And not just personal interpretation don’t agree, but factual don’t agree – such as when he arose, where he was seen, how he was seen and the process by which he ascended. If the word of god isn’t capableof getting a few facts straight, well, you see why it’s hard to accept it at infallable…


  363. Wilco says:

    Flaco, I do it every time I sign a check. Again, the year 2007 IS A.D., “in the year of our lord.”
    The numerical year we deal with every day is based upon the alleged year of jesus’s birth and has been employed by vast numbers of people for many centuries now, whether they believe or not. Recently, people have started a pseudo-movement to change A.D. to C.E. (common era) and B.C. to B.C.E. (before common era), but that’s admittedly a bit ridiculous, as you’re still choosing the birth of Jesus as the fulcrum.


  364. me says:

    Who could possibly be surprised at this? It’s been clear for many years that Bush is a dangerous mental case. How else can one explain his unrestrained glee at executing prisoners while he was governor of Texas?


  365. D says:

    Any pics of him with his left hand behind his back to hide the fact that it’s trembling?


  366. unbelievable says:

    Blasphemers are funny
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

    Pretty much!

    Un, he is right, it’s not a reference to some unnamed God. It’s Jesus. But it’s ok to admit that. Really.

    Admit something I disgaree with? Nah… :D

    It’s still meaningless. It’s not considered in synch with when Jesus was actually born. It’s believed off by a few years.
    But it does reference Jesus.

    The AD debate wasn’t me…

    Oh, and you can say that Flaco is arguing that non-christians must be hypocrites by using 2007 to date anything as well, given that it’s based on the alleged year of Jesus’s birth.
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 7:00 pm

    I still say “oh my god”. It is just as meaningful… :D


  367. Wilco says:

    Admit something I disgaree with? Nah… :D

    so long as you admit to my divinity, all is well


  368. Geroge of the jungle says:

    That’s right! I am the “Chimp in Chief” and don’t you forget it!


  369. Wilco says:

    So will you change now to “oh my Wilco”?


  370. Gandhi says:

    If only George W. Bush would understand his president.


  371. unbelievable says:

    Well, it was fun, even without Daryll to show up and tell us all that we’re going to hell…

    Time for dinner…

    I shall return :D


  372. Merlin says:

    #279 Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 5:48 pm

    Atheists are the most hated demographic in our country.

    True. But for the evangelists it is the Secular Humanists (of which I am one) that are REALLY hated. Just ask Dobson about his view. The reason, I suspect is that the Humanists are very well organized and extremely active against all they stand for, as opposed to athiests who are not so organized. (Their are many athiests in the Humanist movement.)
    Secular Humanism strikes fear into the nutcases because it is “more believable” than athiesm which can be dismissed with a wave of their moldy hand as hell bent sinners.

    I love your posts!


  373. Smagmite says:

    aha, proof that evolution does not exist.


  374. Pro choice lib says:

    “… so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”
    Nice. So is this our destiny to own the middle east oil fields or to bring on Armaggedon? Did anyone ask the follow up question. Nooooo.


  375. yessir says:

    No video? That is sad. :(


  376. hterrya says:

    I am baffled by what has happened in this thread.

    The current corrupt president is acting so demented that even his FRIENDS are concerned enough to blab to the MSM!

    In this thread, a lot of folks are blaming his insanity on his religion. Well, TerrytheTurtle got it right in # 166, when he said:

    “Anyway, would like to go further but we’re off topic UNB … Meanwhile back at the bunker…”

    The bunker is protected by the 28%ers, like virulent venus and her troll handmaidens. The current demented, corrupt president is suffering from his delusions that I think have nothing to do with religion, or the lack thereof. It seems to me that his problems are family related and drug related.

    We are blessed. We can see through his delusions of grandeur and his inability to discern honesty and integrity from corruption and violence. His bunker, and his defending 28%ers, won’t be able to protect him from our discernment.


  377. surrey says:

    There has to be someone with enough courage to declare him mentally incompetent and take him away so that the world can be saved from his madness!!!!


  378. Per - Norway says:

    As usual it all boils down to religion, oil, money & politics.
    When will USA get a real democracy. Democracy isnt two white billionaires fighting over who is going to be the president.


  379. Soco says:

    Corporate controlled Manchurian Candidate. The people who put him in power knew he was f@cked up, they apparently needed a man with no conscience to achieve their goals. Who in their right mind would continue this shit? He could be the best thing to happen to America in order to expose the nefarious plans and wake citizens up from their slumber. They picked a real loser.

    You know I could run for governor but I’m basically a media creation. I’ve never done anything. I’ve worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that’s not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office.
    – George W Bush, in 1989


  380. Layla says:

    Unsourced, so a big lump of sea salt.

    Not the first USPrez to pound fists and declare his righteous indignation over being misunderstood. I’m confident he will not be the last.


  381. alxndr says:

    he’s drunk. it isnt that difficult to assume, he’s a former alcoholic. now that’s depressing.


  382. alxndr says:

    he was drunk. it isn’t that difficult to assume, he’s a former alcoholic. now that’s depressing.


  383. Merlin says:

    #344 Comment by upside00 — May 31, 2007 @ 6:48 pm

    It is truly amazing to watch how this thread about the continuing unraveling of Dubya and the NeoCon Flying Circus has turned into Theology 101!!

    Actually it is not amazing when you think about it. although your point is well taken.

    These trolls live in dred fear of life and living, and long for the opportunity to proove that their flimsy belief system is right. It is constantly being questioned, especially by themselves. And the only way they can achieve that “peace of mind” is to attack and lower non believers to a lower place in Hell than they know they are going to reside for all eternity.

    Guess the trolls have no where else to turn except their blind faith in something beyond their control, ergo, taking no responsibility for their lives.

    And here (in bold) you nail it! This is the bottom line of their philosophy! “I’ve turned my life over to jesus!” they happily insist. “I Don’t worry about anything because my life is in jesus’ hands” Bla, bla, bla. “When the rapture comes I’m going to sit at the right hand”…bla, bla. When I confront these christians, it always comes down to not accepting personal responsibility. And boy, do the decibles rise, when they try to get out of that predicament!

    Trouble is, that they live in an upside down world! They think that up is up when it is really down…and all that that implies.


  384. American't says:

    For f*ck sakes. Will someone please remove this a55hole from office. And while you’re at it, please actually read the religious bullsh!t that you try to quote…. You idiot zealots, spouting “patriotism” haven’t the first clue as to what the constitution means, what the declaration of independence means, what freedom of speech is.

    Finally, NASCAR is for retarded monkeys. F*ck the South, evolution is a fact, and most of you are f*cking morons.


  385. The_Darwin_Delusion says:

    I am so thankful Ron Paul will be our next president.

    ronpaul2008.com


  386. nullBOB FROM BITHLO says:

    JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO VOTE CAPITALIST


  387. The_Darwin_Delusion says:

    !8002 tnediserp rof luap nor


  388. Old White Guy says:

    Just like any third world dictator.


  389. Trinity says:

    All I’m saying is that we have to follow the rule of law. Even if he is downright insane, we’re still obligated to support in him whatever he does. So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Can’t believe you all don’t get this.

    Comment by Jake — May 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

    Technically we DO NOT have to support what he is doing. HE is NOT the ‘law’. The Presidency is not a dictator role. It does NOT give him ultimate power to control and undermind the people. This is a democracy not communism.
    What’s next?
    Campaign 2008 Bush for dictator? F$*% THAT!! I’ll revoke my citizenship if that happens.


  390. flex says:

    Bush (hands held out in front with palms up, beady eyes glaring, nose crinkling) “What don’t you understand? God told me to kill the evildoers and spread Democracy to the world.”


  391. anon says:

  392. Ron says:

    The Chimp is definitely losing it. Soon he’ll start defecating in his hand and hurling it at everyone.


  393. kladinvt says:

    Crazier than Nixon! And that IS scary!!!


  394. Merlin says:

    #375 Comment by Pro choice lib — May 31, 2007 @ 7:26 pm

    “… so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

    Nice. So is this our destiny to own the middle east oil fields or to bring on Armaggedon? Did anyone ask the follow up question. Nooooo.

    This is “PLAN A” folks, spoken from our dear leaders lips! Do you need more proof? THEIR IS NO PLAN B! Its called Empire! Rice said it this way: Plan B is to make Plan A work.

    It is more than only oil. The ends justifies the means. Don’t be confused. Oil is part of the “means” it is not the “end” as so many posters here believe. It is not Iraq, democracy or ridding the world of Sadaam. These are part of the “means”. The end is control of the whole “Arc of Instability” as they call it. The Middle East. With that control, the neocons will have a strangle hold on the greatest source of the worlds energy. And realize that they are already in control of the worlds most powerful arsenal to back up their hold on that energy resource. And after that, bring the world to its knees due to their need for the energy the neocons control.

    Think about what this will mean to the developing nations and their growth out of third world status. What it will mean to India or to anyone that does not have the energy they need. Bow and scrape, world! The dream of the neocon cabal.

    World domination by controlling the world’s energy supply. This is the basis of PLAN A folks.


  395. hterrya says:

    # 386 – Comment by The_Darwin_Delusion — May 31, 2007 @ 7:47 pm

    “I am so thankful Ron Paul will be our next president.”

    You’ve self-named yourself – “Delusion!”

    Blind hogs can sometimes root out an acorn.

    Rep. Ron Paul is WRONG in all the places where Rep. Dennis Kucinich has been visionary!

    And, Kucinich does not have to cede ANYTHING to Paul, when it comes to opposition to the invasion, endless occupation, and destruction of Iraq.

    http://kucinich.us/


  396. kasinca says:

    He never quit drinkiing…he is a drunk on cocaine.


  397. not impressed with the U.S. says:

    All I’m saying is that we have to follow the rule of law. Even if he is downright insane, we’re still obligated to support in him whatever he does. So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Can’t believe you all don’t get this.

    Comment by Jake

    Jake, put the crack pipe down!!!!!


  398. darth vader says:

    a rant, actually, about no one understands him, the critics are all messed up, if only people would see what he’s doing things would be OK…etc.,

    what the??? – no one understands him because he can’t speak english and we can see what he is doing and it is ver f**king far from ok


  399. Wilco says:

    hterrya, have you heard anything about a recall petition of Kucinich?
    I’m hearing rumors here in Cleveland.


  400. McCarty says:

    It is starting to feel like teasing or making fun of someone wiith Downs Syndrome. Bush is a poor pitiful soul, steeping in his own maddening juices. Even his Texas friends appear shocked. I’d be interested at what he read or heard that set his chest thumping off. Was it his poll numbers, the % of citizens that want us out of Iraq or that he won’t be allowed to invade Iran. Was it the likelyhood that Fredo, Wolfy, rummy, turd blossum, darkvaderchenny, etc will go down in history as a cabal of evil doers. Poor guy is losin it. Reality hurts.


  401. dean gordon says:

    Dont you just love it when rats start jumping off the ship all the while telling you the ship is fine!….You really gotta feel sorry for the 28%….A lack of brain cells and sheer will leads them down the path of blissful ignorance.


  402. Merlin says:

    #390 Comment by Jake — May 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

    All I’m saying is that we have to follow the rule of law. Even if he is downright insane, we’re still obligated to support in him whatever he does. So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Can’t believe you all don’t get this.

    1. The patriot act is the law and was essentially written by the neocon cabal in power right now. So you say that you must follow the “fox in the henhouse” when he creates the laws? You believe this is democracy?

    2. Are you so scared. that you really believe that “So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.”? WTF?

    Talk about not being able to take personal responsibility! Whew, Jake you must be dead inside to have this much fear. There is not an original thought in your head, is there.

    Here is a challenge for you:
    Make us a list of your original thoughts.

    I bet you can’t name any! In fact I will bet you that you don’t have the guts to discuss what I am saying. All you will do is regurgitate partially chewed right wing talking points.

    Prove me wrong, big thoughtful right winger.


  403. feelthy swime says:

    i’nt that special?


  404. JTitor says:

    Wow. This is one of the longest blogs I’ve seen?


  405. Bluedog49 says:

    Layla: “Unsourced, so a big lump of sea salt.”

    The article was published in the Dallas News, so talk to them about it.


  406. HijabMan says:

    insanity. pure. insanity.


  407. me says:

    Bush is a nasty maggot. Calling him an ape is honestly an insult to apes. Apes value life. Bush destroys life. He shouldn’t resign – someone should put him behind bars and forget about feeding him.


  408. Merlin says:

    #391 Comment by flex — May 31, 2007 @ 8:05 pm

    Bush (hands held out in front with palms up, beady eyes glaring, nose crinkling) “What don’t you understand? God told me to kill the evildoers and spread Democracy to the world.”

    How do think the puppeteers make him do all that??? Pretty amazing, huh?


  409. unbelievable says:

    so long as you admit to my divinity, all is well
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

    Fine, you win. :D

    So will you change now to “oh my Wilco”?
    Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 7:13 pm

    I don’t see that I have any choice, now that I’ve given you divinity status…


  410. unbelievable says:

    True. But for the evangelists it is the Secular Humanists (of which I am one) that are REALLY hated.

    I think the Average Joe considers us one in the same. I’ve been called a Humanist, as an insult even though I only refered to myself as an Atheist. I don’t consider myself a pure Humanist by definition, because I think all other living beings are equal to humans and just as valid. However, in general, we do generally have the same peace and love mindset which just freaks out these crazy zealots. :D

    Just ask Dobson about his view.

    Must I? Ugh… :D

    The reason, I suspect is that the Humanists are very well organized and extremely active against all they stand for, as opposed to athiests who are not so organized. (Their are many athiests in the Humanist movement.)

    That’s logical. You guys are more organized than we are – but I think we are learning from you, since you’re right that many of each group is both.

    I read an interesting book ‘Natural Atheism’, in which the author explained why our movements are the most threatening to the zealots. He said it’s because only one of us can be right, and in proving our rightness, they lose their cult following. That unlike blacks or gays who aren’t out to convert them, that non-believers sort of are by default – which is the bigger threat. I thought that was interesting.

    Secular Humanism strikes fear into the nutcases because it is “more believable” than athiesm which can be dismissed with a wave of their moldy hand as hell bent sinners.

    Valid point. Though I do think the ‘believability’ of Atheism is partly due to the bad connotation of the word itself, and the fact that it’s hard to explain our views to people who refuse to think :D.

    I love your posts!
    Comment by Merlin — May 31, 2007 @ 7:16 pm

    Thank you :D I enjoy rational discussions – can always rely on your for that…


  411. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    Thank you :D I enjoy rational discussions – can always rely on your for that…
    Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 9:00 pm

    So when are you going to the new “Creationism Museum”? It sounds like an ABSOLUTE HOOOOTTTTT!!!

    I’d hate to “pay” these people any more money that they already have (spending 29 million on that farce is crazy enough). But like a BAD MOVIE, I’m so TEMPTED to go, just to see exactly how st*pid those lunatic religious wingnuts actually are!

    I hear the dinosaurs hanging out with adam and eve are THE BOMB!!!


  412. Heynow says:

  413. nullRoss says:

    Does President Bush get a pass on his Cut & Run policy ?
    Panel Report on 60 Minutes

    2-2-1972-Subject: Flight Qualifications specifically Bath & Bush .

    5-4-1972 -Subject: Annual Flight Examination, order to take physical .

    5-19-1972-Subject: Discussion with 1st Lt. Bush, phone call from Bush talked about his getting his flight physical.

    8-1-1972-Subject: Bush suspension of flight status recommendation that we fill this
    critical billet with a more seasoned pilot from a list of qualified Vietnam pilots
    that have rotated .

    9-5-72-Subject: Suspension from flying status, retroactive to 8-1-72. Reason – failure to accomplish medical examination signed – Bobby W. Hodges.

    9-29-72-Subject: Officer will comply with paragraph 2-10, AFM 35-13, authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13.

    8-18-73-Subject: Memo; Retired Gen. Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges about Lt. Bush
    rating, Gen Staudt is pushing to sugar coat it.. (

    1-6-73-Subject: Lt. Bush’s dental examination; looks like Lt. Bush had time to take his dental examination but not time to take his flight physical!

    Why no board of inquiry and no court martial???

    Did Lt. Bush run the Texas National Guard ?????


  414. Peter Piper says:

    “Friends of his in Texas were shocked…..”

    WHAT?! He still has friends? Now that IS a surprise?


  415. unbelievable says:

    So when are you going to the new “Creationism Museum”? It sounds like an ABSOLUTE HOOOOTTTTT!!!

    I’m thinking about never… :D

    I’d hate to “pay” these people any more money that they already have (spending 29 million on that farce is crazy enough). But like a BAD MOVIE, I’m so TEMPTED to go, just to see exactly how st*pid those lunatic religious wingnuts actually are!

    It would certainly be cheap entertainment – that’s for sure. You know – you could go and then tell us all about it so they only get one person’s entrance fee money, but we all could get a good kick out of it…

    I hear the dinosaurs hanging out with adam and eve are THE BOMB!!!
    Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 9:05 pm

    LOL… But I thought dinosaurs were fake? That all those scientists made them, were able to defy the laws of nature to plant the billions of them all over the planet so some other scientists could find them in places like the walls of the Grand Canyon…

    Yes, you should go and tell us. That’s a great idea! :D


  416. Merlin says:

    #401 Comment by McCarty — May 31, 2007 @ 8:19 pm

    It is starting to feel like teasing or making fun of someone wiith Downs Syndrome. Bush is a poor pitiful soul, steeping in his own maddening juices.

    Were he not responsible for the deaths and wounding of hundreds of thousands, I would feel the same way. Mental illness is nothing to make fun of. He needs to be shown for the monster he is in any way possible. And yes, I will sink that low to do just that.

    I’d be interested at what he read or heard that set his chest thumping off.

    Mee too! Probably just a neocon ritual though. They start all their meetings with it.

    Poor guy is losin it. Reality hurts.

    He never had it to lose. Look into his history.

    Sorry, we part company on this “Poor guy” part. I can’t get the visuals of men coming back in caskets and damaged bodies, out of my head. Not to mention the horror BushCo has rained down on the Iraqi people. I mean that litterally as well as figuratively. Our air war in never spoken about except on blogs like TomDispatch.com. (I highly recommend you pay Tom Englehardt a visit @ TomDispatch.com.)

    “Poor guy”??? A mass murderer does not get my empathy. “Reality hurts“. Yes it does, but the hurt does not include him. He is devoid of feelings. He is a dry drunk, megalomanic, clinging on to jesus for salvation. For his sake, there better not be a god waiting for him when he dies. He would be a “big fish” for Satan!

    Of course, if you wrote that post as snark… But I took you seriously just in case. That way I get to say my rant with some justification.


  417. Akmadinajad says:

    I wonder if that retarded primate gnawed off somebody’s face, chewed off fingers or tore off somebody’s balls, during this latest rant.


  418. Merlin says:

    #412 Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 9:05 pm

    So when are you going to the new “Creationism Museum”? It sounds like an ABSOLUTE HOOOOTTTTT!!!
    I really do think about it! A good laugh is always welcome!

    Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 9:17 pm

    I’d hate to “pay” these people any more money that they already have (spending 29 million on that farce is crazy enough). But like a BAD MOVIE, I’m so TEMPTED to go, just to see exactly how st*pid those lunatic religious wingnuts actually are!

    My feelings exactly. I would really love to see the true meaning of insanity displayed in full battle gear. (Education has its price, unfortunately, but maybe you can sneak in to the freak show.)

    What is remarkable about this time we are living in, is how the crazys are so blatently open about their insanity and how openly candid they are with their justifications regarding it. They are really “out of the closet” as it were, naked as a jaybird and enjoying their new clothes! Just a few years ago you had to look under rocks to find them. Only the young Mormons and a few others (Hari Krishnas come to mind) were visable. Now it seems like the sorcerers apprentice is on the loose, and they keep multiplying like cockroaches.


  419. Peter Piper says:

    Of course this is the 419th comment on this topic so of course no one will ever read it.


  420. Merlin says:

    #418 Comment by Akmadinajad — May 31, 2007 @ 9:31 pm

    I wonder if that retarded primate… tore off somebody’s balls, during this latest rant.

    If so, was it to get the ones he never had?


  421. Zooey says:

    Of course this is the 419th comment on this topic so of course no one will ever read it.
    Comment by Peter Piper

    I read every word of it. :D


  422. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Well Pete, you got my undivided attention there…… and said nothing……but I did read it….and I waited on my treo for ever too…


  423. Peter Piper says:

    Wow, thanks Zooey! Btw. did you know you’re off topic? ;)


  424. dickie says:

    I think he needs to be committed to gitmo! Is there a doctor in the house, anyone?


  425. Merlin says:

    #411 True. But for the evangelists it is the Secular Humanists (of which I am one) that are REALLY hated.

    I think the Average Joe considers us one in the same.
    I agree, and in most ways we are.

    I’ve been called a Humanist, as an insult even though I only refered to myself as an Atheist. I don’t consider myself a pure Humanist by definition, because I think all other living beings are equal to humans and just as valid. However, in general, we do generally have the same peace and love mindset which just freaks out these crazy zealots. :D

    Actually, I believe that Humanists share your love of all living things and beings. I do. That said, the choice I make, is to put an emphasis (not a primacy) on human existence, before (not over) other species. Sadly that is a choice we are faced with making every day. (Your house is burning. You can only save one. Do you save the dog or your child?) We are still animals, with all their instinctual drives, and strive to reproduce and safeguard our own. This is natural in my view.


  426. Midori says:

    For 75 (Jake), you have the brain of someone 7+5=12 years old. St*pid little man child.
    Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus

    Come on, VVGFU,
    Most 12 year olds are brighter than that. Using either the 7 or the 5 without adding them would be more like it.


  427. Jay Randal says:

    Wow I lot of posts on this thread today. Too many for me to read them all.


  428. Jay Randal says:

    A lot of posts > I am tired from working outside all day today watering my garden > worst drought in Georgia’s history.


  429. cag_uw@yahoo.com says:

    Damn,

    This f#cker is about to go “Idi Amin” on us …


  430. Merlin says:

    #411 Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 9:00 pm

    I read an interesting book ‘Natural Atheism’

    Thanks, I’ll check into this one.

    That unlike blacks or gays who aren’t out to convert them, that non-believers sort of are by default – which is the bigger threat. I thought that was interesting.

    I am not aware that Humanists try to “convert” anyone. If anything Humanists try to prevent the crazies from spreading their beliefs via the public sector and the government. About athiests, I’m not sure. I wouldn’t think athiests try and convert. Rather, all I hear is defense, in the form of agressiveness against the attacks from the crazys. Maybe I’m wrong in this reading. You tell me, do you evangelize atheism?

    I do think the ‘believability’ of Atheism is partly due to the bad connotation of the word itself, and the fact that it’s hard to explain our views to people who refuse to think :D.

    Yes, as Lakof points out, the “framing” of issues is very important. That is why we all need to stop using the neocon frames. Like “war” and “liberal.” I am a progressive who does not believe in this invasion and occupation of Iraq. I will only use “war” when its called “Bush’s War.” (Note the quotes)

    Thank you :D I enjoy rational discussions – can always rely on your for that…

    Seconded


  431. Juan C says:

    So, back to topic:

    Hahahahahhahaha.

    Thanks.


  432. Juan C says:

    Thank you :D I enjoy rational discussions – can always rely on your for that…
    Comment by Unbelievable

    Now, who needs that hotel room? :D


  433. Merlin says:

    So, back to topic:

    Hahahahahhahaha.

    Thanks.

    Comment by Juan C — May 31, 2007 @ 10:16 pm

    I’ve learned from the trolls! :-D


  434. Richard Waid says:

    Of course, Bush is crazier than a lord. And a drunk. And a psychopath.

    However, next in line to the White House is Dick Cheney. Not so obviously nutty, and no doubt smarter, but if anything even more evil.

    Look, the oil companies, and the Israelis, want us in Iraq. “Withdrawal” in the context of “facts on the ground” doesn’t mean bringing all our surviving troops home and leaving Iraq to Iraqis. It means controlling the oil reserves, and having our launch pad for mroe wars of aggression on behalf of our petro-Zionist coalition overlords, by retreating the large, permanent bases.

    Democrats will not leave Iraq to the Iraqis, because neither the oil companies, nor the Israel lobby, will let them.

    Were they to try, they would be removed from office by any means necessary. As was John F. Kennedy.


  435. Peter Piper says:

    “L’État, c’est moi”

    –17th century French monarch, Louis X1V (1638-1715)


  436. Merlin says:

    Comment by Jay Randal — May 31, 2007 @ 10:07 pm

    A lot of posts > I am tired from working outside all day today watering my garden > worst drought in Georgia’s history.

    I live in Los Angeles and it is a severe problem here as well. We should have had something like 14 inches of rain this year and only have about 3 to date.
    I expect California will light up your TV with fires this fall.


  437. Juan C says:

    I’ve learned from the trolls! :-D
    Comment by Merlin

    Seriously, it doesnt surprise me at all that Bush is president of the US. YOu had Reagan, I mean…Reagan. Schwarzenegger is governor of California…I think there was Gary Coleman and a porn actress competing with him in the primaries (or whatever the name is).

    You could put a can of beans as President of the US and some people would find it better than Clinton.


  438. circusfifthfloor says:

    Gotta be in the bottle again….matters not, little karl has been running this little shop of horrors from day one.


  439. TerrytheTurtle says:

    “I think there was Gary Coleman and a porn actress competing with him in the primaries (or whatever the name is). ”

    Gary needed a bigger platform…..

    Wait wait, here comes Fred Thompson another actor running for president: Valium Venus’ top choice – he’s played the president on TV too!

    Ronald Raygun – another sanctimonious bastard who gave the Monroe Doctrine one more turn around the track….how many people lost their lives for his lies?


  440. TerrytheTurtle says:

    “You could put a can of beans as President of the US and some people would find it better than Clinton.

    Comment by Juan C — May 31, 2007 @ 10:29 pm”

    Fuunny you might mention that – there is a term ‘yellow dog Democrat’ where the Democrat would elect a yellow dog before they would vote Republican. This term I think applies to the Old South (you know before Civil Rights where it was mostly Democrat by day, pillow cases on heads at night). I’ve no clue whether there is a term for this today.

    In the beautiful game, there is a class of suppoer known as the ‘Anyone but Man U’ supporter.


  441. Juan C says:

    The sad thing is that people, not just in the US, believe that Presidents run countries, furthermore, they think that politicians run their countries. It is a lie. Corporations run countries. It happens that war companies run the US, therefore US needs to sell weapons, support warlords, produce genocides, invade countries, bomb civilians. Germany companies are Siemens, Volkswagen, Phillips and Osram (guess who promotes energy savings by changing light bulbs?…yes, Merkel), etc, etc, etc.

    Im not a visionary, but I live in Latinamerica. Here governments are so transparent about their doings, that it is almost laughable. You, developed countries, have less corrupt governments so, the shroud is thicker, I guess.


  442. Juan C says:

    Terry, why Man U is so despised? I would guess that Liverpool must be, in anycase, due to all the victories and stuff. Man U began, well, Im guessing here, Im not saying they are a small team, but not in the Liv league…or are they?


  443. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Man U – richest team in the league, always thinkjs it should be winning everything. Draws fans from all over at the expense of the local sides. In other words it’s easy to be a Man U fan, it’s the cowardly choice for a team. Its great to see them get beaten – most of the time.


  444. Merlin says:

    #437 Comment by Juan C — May 31, 2007 @ 10:29 pm

    I’ve learned from the trolls! :-D
    Comment by Merlin

    I should have said “I’ve learned from the trolls how to stay off topic! :-D

    Seriously, it doesnt surprise me at all that Bush is president of the US. YOu had Reagan, I mean…Reagan. Schwarzenegger is governor of California…I think there was Gary Coleman and a porn actress competing with him in the primaries (or whatever the name is).

    Agreed. No surprise. With the Democratic Party in the hands of the DLC who backed, and an official signed, the PNAC report there was only one voice. Fortunately that has begun to seriously change.

    And, Juan, stop reminding me of California’s blindness in choosing leaders ;-). RayGun was enough shame for the rest of my life. And don’t even remind me about the John Birch Society (remember those sweeties?) whose home base was in Orange County just south of LA. Sigh…LA is the hotbed of fantasy production. Where else could Swartzenegger (another “fantastic actor” whose claim to fame was a B grade flick, in my view, “Terminator.”) fool so many people? And now Thompson!? I guess it just proves that actors are the best choice for Rethug puppets. They dance so well on strings. Even the Terminator dances to Maria’s hand.


  445. Juan C says:

    In other words it’s easy to be a Man U fan, it’s the cowardly choice for a team. Its great to see them get beaten – most of the time.
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle

    Oh, I understand. I am fan of a little team here in Mexico. It won the league back in 92. After that, nothing. But it tasted better than winning all the time. Now, Im of Boca in Argentina…yes, I know. Pretty much like Man U.

    Whats your team?


  446. Juan C says:

    I guess it just proves that actors are the best choice for Rethug puppets. They dance so well on strings.
    Comment by Merlin

    Maybe the Dems should try Pacino in Scent of a Women:

    Lt. Col. Frank Slade: If I were the man I was five years ago I’d take a flame thrower to this place.


  447. Shane says:

    In other words it’s easy to be a Man U fan, it’s the cowardly choice for a team. Its great to see them get beaten – most of the time.
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle

    I assume you guys are talking about Manchester U but you probably have all our closet trolls in a lather. If there missing for a few minutes, you two are the reason … teehee.


  448. Flaco says:

    Here’s a task for you – go read the four Gospels that recount this event. They do not agree. And not just personal interpretation don’t agree, but factual don’t agree – such as when he arose, where he was seen, how he was seen and the process by which he ascended. If the word of god isn’t capableof getting a few facts straight, well, you see why it’s hard to accept it at infallable…

    Comment by unbelievable

    I doubt very seriously you have proven anything about the Gospels except your ignorance in this field of study. You still believe in “monkey to man evolution” where the fossils record is absent of such transitions.

    But feebly cling to it for it is all you have…

    You have two standards. Teacher??? I am not sure you qualify to teach anyone above preschool age. Sippy cups and name tags for everyone!!!
    heh


  449. Spandex says:

    Don’t you dare to call him chimp. It offends the whole Primate family.

    About those rantings… don’t they remind you to a certain person 60 years ago, who also had a destiny?
    It’s really getting scary.


  450. Juan C says:

    You still believe in “monkey to man evolution” where the fossils record is absent of such transitions.
    Comment by Flaco

    OMFG.

    *slowly backing away*


  451. Zooey says:

    Wow, thanks Zooey! Btw. did you know you’re off topic? ;)
    Comment by Peter Piper

    Yeah, you too! :D


  452. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Boca? When I was in BA, my host was planning on going to the River game at Boca. He couldn’t guarantee my safety at the game – had to watch it from the Irish Pub. For my sins, I was given Newcastle United to support and it’s been a heavy load to bear….


  453. Merlin says:

    #447 Comment by Shane — May 31, 2007 @ 11:12 pm

    …you probably have all our closet trolls in a lather. If there missing for a few minutes, you two are the reason … teehee.

    The trolls are probably in the locker room over at the West Hollywood Gym for Men with VV giving a lecture. The trolls seem to be getting worse and worse around here. Anybody notice that?


  454. Zooey says:

    OMFG.
    *slowly backing away*
    Comment by Juan C

    Oy! Let’s get out of here, Juan! :D


  455. Dick 'the Dick' Cheney says:

    NOBODY WAS TOO UPSET UNTIL HE JUMPED INTO THE TIRE-SWING AND STARTED THROWING SHIT AT THE CROWD!!!!


  456. Kavika LoveAll says:

    Like we’ve all been thinking, this madness and chaos has go to stop…i can’t stop thinking about the sheer disaster this administration has shown the world…can you believe we’ve all managed to endure the insanity of the last 7 years and be able to talk about it like we are now? Thank God for the way the internet has evolved other the last few years and the much-needed communication that is helping to fill in the gaps! There is so much information to scour over only because we all are truly living and breathing the so-called ‘end-times’ scenario and a completion of a 13,000 year cycle ending in Winter Solstice 2012. People, just know that we certainly are not doing this by ourselves and by ‘doing’ i mean running this planet, our lives, etc. I mean, look at this water planet! and the condition we are leaving it! We just need to collectively change the behavior and manifest the appropriate ‘new’ technologies that will help us live and be more harmonious with our water planet, each other and all Life. No fundamentalist religion will provide this unless they do. We just need to speak the Truth and then Live It! How simple is that? fubush & prick (and their crony little friends and their primitive little M.I.C. schemes) represent the last horror movie to be made (in our name!) on planet Earth and, like it or not, we are all playing a role in the ‘dramatic’ final scenes before the part where we all live happily ever after… Let’s keep the humor (light & dark) running full steam…that energy will help see us through this time.

    In Brotherly Love & Light,

    Kavika


  457. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Well that was a pile of dross, F***o.

    1) The Gospels do not agree about the Crucifixion, neither the politically correct 4 or the other 3 or 4 which have shown up later and were dropped because they poured doubt on the Sky Fairy stuff.
    2) “your ignorance in this field of study. You still believe in “monkey to man evolution” – once again I get to say “oh the irony”
    3) Science is not a matter of belief. Sky fairies? Yes that’s about belief, what else can it be about?

    “monkey to man evolution” – this is fascinating in it’s powers of self-indictment…. I’m speechless


  458. Flaco says:

    Flaco, I do it every time I sign a check. Again, the year 2007 IS A.D., “in the year of our lord.”
    The numerical year we deal with every day is based upon the alleged year of jesus’s birth and has been employed by vast numbers of people for many centuries now…

    Comment by Wilco

    So we base our calender on a myth, legend, fairy tale Jebsus.
    That’s unbelievable history.

    unbelievable that we would divide human history based on a fictional Jesus character that never existed.


  459. Flaco says:

    Hey speechless look at the fossil records! No species to new species.


  460. Flaco says:

    Evolution is your religion Turtle!


  461. Flaco says:

    Science today has made a mockery of evolution, an embarrasment to many who claimed it as science instead of calling it a religious dogma.


  462. TerrytheTurtle says:

    “Evolution is your religion Turtle!

    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 11:34 pm”

    Evolution is a scientific theory, it is not a religion, F***o.

    I guess it’s time for you to either back that statement up or call on your Sky Fairy to smite me and take away my foreskin.


  463. Flaco says:

    Yea a Christopher Columbus thought the world was flat…blah blah, blah…


  464. TerrytheTurtle says:

    “Hey speechless look at the fossil records! No species to new species.

    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 11:32 pm”

    Ooh looks like you are full of sh*t F***o, peer-reveiwed scientific papers collected in Wikipedia on the evolution of the horse

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_evolution#Evolution_of_the_horse

    OK, I’m looking out my window now for the Sky Fairy and grasping my crotch – how long should I wait?

    This troll is broken and some shit is leaking out of it… please clean this one up and send us a smarter one.


  465. Dick 'the Dick' Cheney says:

    I believe in the BIBLE… especially the part where the christ guy dies and goes to heaven, then the tom guy buys the beans and grows the plant, climbs up there and gets the goose with the golden eggs, and when the christ guy comes back they pass out the eggs.

    NEW RELIGON… chosen people will, going forward, adhere to the OLD BOOK (9 part story of star wars),

    Potterites will also follow the NEW BOOK (7 part story of Harry The Potter),

    One group of us “later day types” will also adopt the teachings of GALAXY QUEST.

    We will have bible study to discuss what LUKE ‘the skywalker’ actually meant when he said……
    “You’re wrong, Leia. You have that power too. In time you’ll learn to use it as I have. The Force runs strong in my family. My father has it. I have it. And… my sister has it. Yes. It’s you, Leia.”


  466. Merlin says:

    Hey Flaco!

    Why aren’t you over at the West Hollywood Gym for men? I understand VV is giving a lecture right now. All the trolls are there The subject was leaked, and it was about the incompetence of all you trolls. Look, TP is the “big league.” and if you don’t improve you will be forced to return to the minor league over at Little Green Footballs. You want that to happen?

    Snap to, trollie, get over to that gym!


  467. Flaco says:

    Terry you need to team up with
    Juan C the masturbator.


  468. TerrytheTurtle says:

    “Yea a Christopher Columbus thought the world was flat…blah blah, blah…

    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 11:38 pm”

    You really don’t know anything do you F***o? – I’d take your high school diploma back and complain if I were you.


  469. nedders says:

    Why would anyone be surprised to find that someone is a sociopathic head case when it is a prerequisite to entering politics at all in the first place and doubly so in a country populated by drivelling idiots such as the above contributors?


  470. TerrytheTurtle says:

    “Terry you need to team up with
    Juan C the masturbator.

    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 11:43 pm”

    Given up, that it? You should probably clean your skivvies, that sh*t leaking out of you gets everywhere. I guess the Sky Fairy isn’t going to smite me eh, and I can keep my foreskin. I was only kidding about being scared – you know that right?

    Sorry no more attention for you from me F***o, there’s nothing to tax me, try to stay off the porn sites eh?


  471. hankster says:

    The answer to our delima is obvious.

    Answer=The Speaker of the House is 3rd in line.

    Question=What if Chimp and Vader were removed at the same moment.

    Soulution=It doesn’t take rocket science.


  472. Arnold Hook says:

    Hitler acted this way at the end as well.


  473. Merlin says:

    #467 Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 11:43 pm

    Terry you need to team up with
    Juan C the masturbator.

    Pssst, Flaco, This is exactly what the problem is! This is really struggling to be a post, you know. Weak, weak, weak. tsk, tsk. You have to better than this awful try. But, not to worry, we’ll give you another chance to improve before we tell. But next time, VV gets the message!


  474. unbelievable says:

    Actually, I believe that Humanists share your love of all living things and beings. I do. That said, the choice I make, is to put an emphasis (not a primacy) on human existence, before (not over) other species.

    The official definitions, for what they are worth, seemed to be more human-centric than I am, but I suppose semantics can be argued about pretty much any word… :D

    Sadly that is a choice we are faced with making every day. (Your house is burning. You can only save one. Do you save the dog or your child?)

    I hate that question. I have no children, or a dog, but I can empathize with my niece or my cats. That would be a nigtmare…

    We are still animals, with all their instinctual drives, and strive to reproduce and safeguard our own. This is natural in my view.
    Comment by Merlin — May 31, 2007 @ 9:58 pm

    Oh, absolutely! I completely agree.

    I am not aware that Humanists try to “convert” anyone.

    Not intentionally, you’re right, but it is sort of a by-product of free thought. I mean, do you talk about your ideology openly, or just with others who are admitted Secularists Humanists, or something else?

    If anything Humanists try to prevent the crazies from spreading their beliefs via the public sector and the government.

    And the crazies consider us oppressing them… Funny huh?

    About athiests, I’m not sure. I wouldn’t think athiests try and convert. Rather, all I hear is defense, in the form of agressiveness against the attacks from the crazys. Maybe I’m wrong in this reading. You tell me, do you evangelize atheism?

    I guess like anything, it depends on the Atheist. But most of us are more about critical thinking skills and the result of thinking is pretty much a rejecting of organized religions… So, by default, when I teach Science or expose Bible truth, it is an argument for Atheism. But to actually try to convert anyone? Only if they want to be converted – and then, well, it’s just more about presenting the arguement for it and letting them decide. In here, I’m more inclined to humble the zealots because they are obnoxious (as you know :).

    “Yes, as Lakof points out, the “framing” of issues is very important. That is why we all need to stop using the neocon frames. Like “war” and “liberal.” I am a progressive who does not believe in this invasion and occupation of Iraq. I will only use “war” when its called “Bush’s War.” (Note the quotes)”

    Funny, I just started reading that book…

    It’s helped me to understand the batshit insane conservatives who run my school system. Doesn’t make me like them any better, but it makes it easier to figure out why they are so freaking patriarchal and paranoid.

    Good thought – I was calling it an occupation for a while, and admit war is easier to type in a hurry. Thanks – I’ll go back to using it.

    Seconded
    Comment by Merlin — May 31, 2007 @ 10:16 pm

    :)


  475. unbelievable says:

    Now, who needs that hotel room? :D
    Comment by Juan C — May 31, 2007 @ 10:19 pm

    LOL!


  476. unbelievable says:

    I expect California will light up your TV with fires this fall.
    Comment by Merlin — May 31, 2007 @ 10:28 pm

    The ones in South Georgia have been so bad that there are days we can smell the smoke here in metro-Atlanta (I thought the local Wal-Mart had fortuitously ignited one day, but then someone on the radio ruined it for me and explained that it was from the forest fires a few hundred miles away).


  477. unbelievable says:

    I assume you guys are talking about Manchester U but you probably have all our closet trolls in a lather. If there missing for a few minutes, you two are the reason … teehee.
    Comment by Shane — May 31, 2007 @ 11:12 pm

    Freakin’ hilarious!


  478. TerrytheTurtle says:

    I guess Flaco must have evolved and been selected for extinction: that ability to type clearly wasn’t helping him much. He’d have been better off with some better personal hygiene traits, I suppose.


  479. unbelievable says:

    I doubt very seriously you have proven anything about the Gospels except your ignorance in this field of study.

    I see you went and looked them up or you didn’t and are just pretending. Either way, I can prove I know what I’m talking about by posting them… I just think the post would be too long.

    So, if you didn’t – go look it up – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. You don’t have to take my word for it. Just read the bible.

    You still believe in “monkey to man evolution” where the fossils record is absent of such transitions.

    No I don’t. I accept the facts of mammals to apes – monkeys aren’t a direct part of our ancestory. Though, they might be a part of your present family tree…

    But feebly cling to it for it is all you have…

    I don’t ‘cling’. That’s for you ‘faithful’

    You have two standards. Teacher??? I am not sure you qualify to teach anyone above preschool age. Sippy cups and name tags for everyone!!!
    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Just because you are too stupid to comprehend what I am saying doesn’t make it MY problem. Fortunately, my students are much smarter than you and they get it.


  480. Synaptic says:

    Failure to uphold Article IV Section 4 should be enough grounds for impeachment alone.


  481. unbelievable says:

    He’d have been better off with some better personal hygiene traits, I suppose.
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle — June 1, 2007 @ 12:06 am

    You’re killing me – that exchange with him was hilarious… He’s such a tool.

    I still think Daryll is the most entertaining troll. But he hasn’t been around lately. Not even in the gay threads… I wonder if he finally broke down and accepted his true sexuality? :D


  482. Juan C says:

    I guess Flaco must have evolved and been selected for extinction: that ability to type clearly wasn’t helping him much.
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle

    Terry, WTF? Flaco didnt evolved from a monkey once the sea currents that crossed the Atlantic were shut becuz the formation of the Channel of Panama, and the huge wooden and jungle regions in Africa dried up to the savannah and a species of apes was forced to hunt their prey with no trees around, therefore having to stand up in order to see farther and use their hands to kill it. No, there is no scientific evidence of that. Instead there is plenty of proof that he comes from a muddy mix of clay and water that God made. There is all documented in a book written by scientists some 1700 years ago. Dont you know?


  483. thomprentice says:

    People. This definite proof thatr he is in the Nixon zone.

    Although I don’t think Nixon ever actually said “I am the president”, critics and commedians of the time made repetition of the phrase a key theme in the narrtive of Nixon obsessions with his own powerless self. Nixon also walked drunk around the WH near the end, wining to portraits of Dead Presidents.

    Nixon needed professional help then and in the year prior and Bush, now thru his Texas friends who are America loyalists rather than total Bush loyalists are, telling us that Bush is not stable and we should do something about it. This add to evidence of Cheney’s own global sociopathy and his oen eligibility to be put on leave.

    To The Bush Cabinet: Now is the time to exercise their constitutional duty by notifying the Congress that Bush is Constitutionally disabled to the point that he cannot exercise the Office of the Presidency (and Cheney too) and that they both should be placded on constitutitonal LEAVE until the Cabinet withdraws the letter.

    Thom Prentice
    Austin

    Presumably the Cabinet would, in so doing, Make Speaker Pelosi the “Acting President”.

    This duty would be precedential, but it is the Patriotic Duty of the Cabinet to proceed with their power from the Constitutional Amendment passed following the JFK assassination.


  484. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Comment by Dick ‘the Dick’ Cheney — May 31, 2007 @ 11:43 pm

    I like this one.

    Hey Dick you mean the Apocrypha? The missing three episodes of Luke Skywalker?


  485. Kristen says:

    What a spineless country. We’ve got a president who is a danger to the survival of the world, and all we do is whine. You’d think someone could put the pressure on the do-nothing Congress to remove this dangerous, evil dirtbag from the White House, along with the thug Vice President.


  486. Shane says:

    Terry you need to team up with
    Juan C the masturbator.

    Comment by Flaco

    Why aren’t you at the West Holywood Gym. I heard VV is giving out free “Hollywood waxes” to all her neocon buddies. Hollywood waxes, that’s total hair removal from your private parts. And you know how gentle VV is by nature. Get going now, shoo, shoo.


  487. Shane says:

    Terry you need to team up with
    Juan C the master baiter.

    Comment by Flaco

    Here Flaccid, I fixed it for you. Can’t you get anything right?


  488. keith says:

    Sorry to be on topic, but—Georgie Anne Geyer (writer of above story) is also very conservative and crazy. So if she thinks Bush is losing it—watch out.

    I remember twenty years ago she used to write columns praising the Salvador death squads and the Contras (drug-running terrorists).


  489. John Kooms says:

    EVERY FRIGGIN DAY I ask myself how in the hell is this fool and his band of low life criminals still in office ! Kristen ( comment 485 ) you are right . bottom line it’s because of a spineless , apathetic , ignorant and while I am at it … a stupid American people , sadly the rest of us have to suffer the consequences and are pretty much helpless . Unbelievable , is like a bad dream except this is reality . Sorry , I lost it there for a minute , what was I thinking ? Oprah , Barbara WAWA, MTV and and Springer are the important things in life .


  490. keith says:

    No, they are not doing what is best for the nation. According to the sixteen intelligence agencies of the USA, this illegal invasion and occupation have made us less secure. It opened up Iraq to the fundamentalist Islamists. They had been strongly suppressed by Saddam. It is a tremendous recruiting tool and training ground for them. It has cost nearly a million lives and will cost our taxpayers about $4.3 Trillion all totalled.


  491. keith says:

    I meant $2.3 Trillion.


  492. Richard Ray Harris says:

    The father sacrifices the son…they are truly Bushido with a good measure of the Kamakaze spirit towards their end which is….


  493. Bella says:

    IMPEACHING BUSH IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE REMEDY!

    WITH ALL THE GRAND TALK OF MADAME PELOSI, IT APPEARS THAT SERVING THE PRESIDENT WITH ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT ISN’ T EVEN A CONSIDERATION OF HERS. IT WAS STATED THAT PELOSI STATED ‘IMPEACHMENT WAS OFF THE TABLE.’

    CHECKS AND BALANCES, THE CONSTITUTION, BILL OF RIGHTS… THEY ALL HAVE BEEN MADE A MOCKERY OF BY BUSH AND THOSE WHO WILL NOT USE THEIR POWER TO STOP A CLEARLY MENTALLY ILL, CRIMINAL PRESIDENT.

    OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ARE SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVES!!!!!!!!


  494. KG Prophet says:

    It is a sad state when our President needs to remind people that he is in charge. Perhaps he is unsure himself.


  495. jbloggz says:

    The US has 737 bases throughout the world it has the worlds biggest arsenal which includes nuclear weapons. It has taken part in countless wars directly and indirectly to gain world power. It now is ringing Russia with rockets and war making alliances enough to get the Russians talking of an arms race. All this did not happen during the present clown Bush’s tenure it has happened over generations. Apart from Vietnam I don’t recall much US disention about this in the past. It’s only because now the US is exposed to a kind of ’shock and awe’ that they can’t handle. So ye sow so ye shall reap. Just say the US attacks Iran. It would be a veery good moment for the Chinese to take back Taiwan at the same time. Now how would all those war strategists deal with that? There is a way to stop this madness and that is simply allow Russian atomic weapons on US soil and likewise US weapons on Russian soil. THAT would be a very good deterent indeed.


  496. jon eden says:

    He would have been better served to have taken a bike ride vs seeing his friends. We would have better served if on this bike ride……better not go there.


  497. Merlin says:

    Sorry to be on topic, but—Georgie Anne Geyer (writer of above story) is also very conservative and crazy. So if she thinks Bush is losing it—watch out.

    I remember twenty years ago she used to write columns praising the Salvador death squads and the Contras (drug-running terrorists).

    Comment by keith — June 1, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    That is interesting! I could not find any of her articles like that. Can you direct me?


  498. Krantzstone says:

    I’m surprised he hasn’t gone to get the poison pills while all his friends and people in his Administration quietly make a clean getaway as the Russians enter Berlin.

    /Godwin FTW ;)


  499. Wacer says:

    This is unsubstantiated garbage and I don’t even support the president. If people start believing anything that has no good references then they will believe anything. I know people are upset with the president but this goes too far.


  500. Merlin says:

    #8 Comment by Royston Vasey — May 31, 2007 @ 2:40 pm

    Your information about tripe is very interesting. However, how does it fit into the political picture painted in the article above.

    An enquiring mind wants to know!


  501. Merlin says:

    He should have jacked-off in the sink instead.

    Comment by Patrick1 — May 31, 2007 @ 2:47 pm

    You are talking about George Ws father aren’t you? Sure would have saved the world a lot of trouble.


  502. Merlin says:

    #32 Comment by Candyce — May 31, 2007 @ 2:51 pm

    Would our next president, even a Democrat, be able to leave entirely? Guess not.

    Definitely not if Hillary is President. She is “neocon light” and wants to stay.


  503. Merlin says:

    Comment by Rusty — May 31, 2007 @ 2:58 pm

    “headlines are like a big pile of shit that draw in the TP flies.”

    Wow! Flaco, did you write that one yourself? Where do you come up with such genius metaphors? You know everytime I think about fighting back against the fascists troglodytes that intellectually challenged republicans and politcal corruption put in office – some staggering giant of intellect like yourself comes along and serves up a anecdote so pithy, so thoughtful, so tearfully-witty, that I just wonder why we should bother to fight back. Afterall, with such informed minions as yourself, who can sculpt with both words and feces, how will we ever overcome your staggering grip on reality?

    Beautiful, Rusty. You have a way with words and expression!


  504. Martin Evans says:

    I think it’s time for something like a national strike until Bush and his minions resign from office. This is a nightmare and it’s only getting worse every day. What happens if Bush really has a bad day and he asks for the football?


  505. Joe says:

    Bush is a criminal, a fake-conservative, and a fake-Christian. He belongs in jail for his numerous crimes, including his foreknowledge and approval of 9/11, from which he benefited greatly from.


  506. doro says:

    He’ll be munching the rug next.


  507. Shaun Apple says:

    On my web site Love Across Borders everyone is welcome to post your political poetry.


  508. Merlin says:

    #500 Comment by Wacer — June 1, 2007 @ 5:34 am

    You opined:
    This is unsubstantiated garbage and I don’t even support the president. If people start believing anything that has no good references then they will believe anything.

    Are you familiar with body language, tone of voice etc. and how they tell a psychological story about the person? And that very often it is not “substantiated.”
    Have you listened and watched Bush’s speeches over the last 6 years? It is really remarkable how much information is revealed if you just pay attention. Most of it unsubstantiated.

    You added:
    I know people are upset with the president but this goes too far.

    To say simply that “people are upset with the president” shows me that you are not in touch with the reality on the ground in the Middle East. Look at this brief “cost” summary.

    *The devistation of the Iraqi society and the country.
    *The hundreds of thousands dead Iraqi people.
    *The untold thousands of Iraqi people wounded.
    *The hundreds of thousands of Iraqis that have fled to Syria alone, not to mention other countries.
    *The 3400+ American troops killed.
    *The many thousands of wounded American soldiers with inadequate care when they come home.
    *As yet an unknown number of soldiers suffering from PTSD, but the number is estimated to be huge.

    And you say “people are upset with the president”???

    People are screaming angry at the president, and this corrupt and evil administration! And well they should be, because of all the carnage this “president” has brought about with lies and deception.
    Do you think this is all “just politics?” Just pettiness the Democrats are exhibiting? A little upsetness with the president? Well, your post makes me believe:

    You are either a person who is:
    1. Seriously out of touch with what is going on.
    2. Aware of it all and are emotionally dead inside.
    3. A neocon troll trying to act like you are not.

    You tell me which one you are, Wacer.


  509. The Conservative Deflator says:

    If only the mainstream media had done it’s job in 2000 and reported on the lengthy criminal record, not to mention the long history of alcohol and drug abuse by this man, this psychotic criminal would not be in the White House!


  510. Jiim says:

    Our country’s manifest destiny, perhaps? Let’s review our history and compare Dubya to President Polk. And also, on a scarier side, read the article in the URL I posted.


  511. Merlin says:

    read the article in the URL I posted.

    Comment by Jiim — June 1, 2007 @ 6:48 am

    OK, I will. if you tell me what # you posted it at. There are over 500 posts here! Better just post it again.


  512. JAB says:

    Mr. Bush seems to be going out of what little mind he has left!


  513. Zia says:

    I love quoting this… I recall a quote from Oliver Stone’s movie ‘Nixon’ :

    Nixon shuffles back alone, coming to a stop in front of a
    larger-than-life, full-length oil portrait of JOHN F.
    KENNEDY. Nixon studies the portrait, pads closer. Looks
    up.

    NIXON (CONT’D)
    When they look at you, they see what
    they want to be.
    (then)
    When they look at me, they see what
    they are …


  514. popo says:

    Not that I don’t believe it, but…

    Evidence? This is shite journalism… it’s not even journalism at all… its just shite…


  515. paul says:

    This Bush crackup has been coming for a long time. Just like his impending impeachment. And his administrations verge of collapse.

    I hope your wishful thinking makes you feel better, because that is all it is accomplishing.


  516. John says:

    His criminal element (his dad’s buddies) in the executive branch are building the bases in Iraq for long-term occupation, at least until the oil runs out. They are stealing a 1/4 of a $Billion$ in oil EVERYDAY


  517. John Hanks says:

    Our GOP President is crazy! Our GOP President is crazy!
    Democratic Presidents have been crazy too.
    What difference does that make?


  518. Georgie says:

    Hmmmm… maybe the mother f-er will get a brain aneurism and croke! I’ll keep praying..


  519. smchris says:

    The moment Dubya attacked and occupied Iraq was the moment he made it virtually impossible for the U.S. to withdraw because he invalidated our diplomatic agreements and covert understandings to keep the oil flowing. And he made the U.S. so unpopular he made it difficult for the NATO nations to support us by taking over Iraq peacekeeping to clean up our mess. And you can bet every congressman has been given the picture in their mind of China, for instance, volunteering to step in and normalize Iraq. No, that oil is _ours_ and I suspect most congressmen know it however much they mouth their dissatisfaction with the war when called upon to do so.

    So my question is what _else_ Dubya thinks he has to do to insure we stay in Iraq forever. Domestic, foreign. Terrorism, nukes. There are so many possibilities I can hardly wait for Dubya’s _next_ surprise. 599 days. If anyone still thinks this isn’t the most disastrous president in history, Dubya still has plenty of time to put the icing on the cake.


  520. lmwilker says:

    “Now why would anyone switch from the sweet opiates to vile meth?”

    Bush’s reported drug of choice during his misspent youth into dissipated middle age was cocaine. Until he found “God” at age 40 he was a Speed Freak, a Tweaker. He prefers cocaine of the sweet opiates because his underlying personality has an affinity with the speedy drugs. We all would have been better of with Doug Ginsburg on the Courtt.

    “How else can you expect obedience from your subordinates?”

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    Oh, wait, there goes that quaint “pre-9/11″ thinking again!


  521. cheryl says:

    What is our country’s destiny George-HELL! And the scary part of all of this is that he can declare himself dictator at anytime and completely take control!!!!! This country needs to wake up and take charge or we will not have a country left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  522. a says:

    don’t make me mad… you wouldn’t like me when i’m mad…
    grrrrr!!!!
    BUSH SMASH!!!!


  523. Rico says:

    This so typical for the left. Lots of outrageous claims yet not a shred of proof beyond some 5th hand accounts. I am not a supporter of the Bush administration but I would like to see something a bit more substantive than these “proofs” before I start taking them seriously. Maybe “its true just because I say so” works for you but I dont suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome like most on the left and would like some real proof.


  524. b says:

    bush is why i’m pro-choice….
    (not really the reason… but a world without gwb… what a dream..)
    an abortion that should have been


  525. b says:

    to Rico:

    just practicing that gift of freedom of speech that your right winged president upholds….hrm.. wait… hasnt’ he (muffled)


  526. TheMissingPProject says:

    He has to keep reminding himself he’s the P word because he knows he was never elected.

    Steal the P! Steal the P!

    themissingPproject.com


  527. Expat says:

    I would encourage everyone to go out and rent the movie “Downfall” which chronicles the final days of the 3rd Reich. George Bush manifests the same delusional thinking that was exhibited by Der Furher in his last days. Sad to see so many Republicans and Dino’s willing to follow the leader off the cliff.


  528. Expat says:

    Rent the German movie “Downfall” which chronicles the final days of the 3rd Reich. It’s informative on what is apparantely happening to GWB.


  529. Outraged says:

    Nothing meaningful or useful will be accomplished for the good of all men as long as the bush crime family is in control of our government. We have a great deal of work ahead of us to undo the damage done to this country and the world under this bush crime family occupation. I am so sorry for all the death, destruction and looting caused by this bush crime family. I am so ashamed of what has gone on under this occupation of our government. Words can not express my outrage. Every opportunity that has risen to make an honest and meaningful contribution to mankind has been seen as a chance for him and his cronies to make a profit. Most of these profits where made on the backs of victims of a tragedy. This must be one of the darkest points in the history of this country. 2009 can not arrive soon enough. For the sake of all mankind we must never fall asleep and let this happen again.


  530. buckles says:

    Keep the pressure on, and Bush will eventually rant in public. Everyone is jumping ship, and with no one there to coddle him, he won’t know what to do.


  531. Stever says:

    Usually when a chimp gets upset they throw their feces around. I’m glad to hear nothing about that behavior


  532. Zooey says:

    You tell me which one you are, Wacer.
    Comment by Merlin — June 1, 2007 @ 6:25 am

    He lied. He supports Bush.


  533. Fiorence says:

    This is the guy who requires, and gets, people to follow his demands. Even when the facts are undeniable, some people STILL SPIN/APOLOGIZE FOR HIM (e.g. first comment). Need I mention the importance of this given his postition in the world, as well as his unprecedented demands?


  534. Fiorence says:

    Uh Jake, LBJ could be crude, but he made way more sense than this guy. Even when disagreeing with him, I could understand far better his intentions.


  535. Fiorence says:

    With due respect, please withold the “normalizing” pseudosocial science (some of you people wouldn’t know reality or a sense of magnitude if it bit you) crap please, bs and Jane Goodall! Thank you.


  536. charlie says:

    gw thinks he is in control….but i think that dick cheny is the REAL brains behind all this crap.
    nancy pelosi ,and the dems WILL NEVER start impeachment preceedings against gw and cheny,because there is a fifth element (AIPAC) blackmailing congress and buying off the ones that can’t be blackmailed.check out how the msm even shuts up about gw’s high crimes.
    i’m tired of politicians talking about what this great country needs when they run for office,and then ignoring the citizens after they get into office.impeach them ALL!we need a third party that actually has some conjones that will tell AIPAC to F*** off and for Isreal to defend theirself and to quit sucking off America like some drunk queer in a park restroom!


  537. Fiorence says:

    BottomBoy (doesn’t sound appealing at all) : passionate? This is passion?What a tragedy people with apparent viewpoints as yours have been listened to while so many suffered, were abused, lost their life.


  538. bridget says:

    It is time for the Congress to grow some balls and take over–my Goodness, why do they think they replaced all the Bush lap dogs?


  539. ron says:

    was he speaking in tongues?


  540. Joe America says:

    Turtle: Yes. I know it was not you. I responded by saying “how quaint” by which I meant Teddy Roosevelt. That kind of thinking does not apply in the post-9/11 world anymore. In our existential struggle it is important to stand by our leaders and trust them.

    Comment by MAF54 — May 31, 2007 @ 3:23 pm

    Post 9/11?? You really like being a victim, don’t you?


  541. sa says:

    bush is a unique case in american history.
    he was supremely unequipped to handle the office of the presidency.
    but it served some sort of demented perversion of the right that your character or intelligence (or soul) mattered nothing in politics (or business).
    all that mattered was power. the boss’s son gets to do what ever he pleases – no matter what. an intoxication with power propelled him to our nation’s highest office. in essence, it was the “american way.”

    but now the entire world sees how power perpetuates itself. the truth of the lie has been revealed. the sad part of it is the million dead and the trillion spent in a morality tale for all-time. it could be called “shakespearean” were the costs not so great – it has become “biblical.” all the world watches a morality tale for all time. sadly, the cover fee for this drama may come at the cost of what once was “america.”

    sa

    p.s. lies are the foundation of hell.


  542. txgrandma says:

    I think we need to pray for our President. I would not want to have the responsibilities that he has. Just pray for him instead of cursing him. Does no good to make fun of him, because the people elected him so when you point a finger at him and call him stupid names that finger is pointing back at you. Just ask God to give him guidance.


  543. aperfectbob says:

    Well, Hitler did a merry jig. Hitler had quite a bit more sophistication and class than this rube..I seriously doubt Hitler would have winked at the Queen, then done the surreptitious El Diablo sign.

    This one is more like , was it Caligula? Was he the Roman Emperor who made his horse president of the Senate? This one is capable of stuff like that, just give him time and more Democratic party victories… lol


  544. John says:

    Well,

    That is the first thing that GW has gotten right in a long time. >> He is “The President”, even if only in title as it would seem that “Dead-Eye Dick” Cheney has taken the role of quarterback and GW has once again been reduced to a role he is more experienced and comfortable with as cheerleader.


  545. liz says:

    Click on the link below and read this alarming article about Bush’s latest covert attack on our constitution.

    Don’t We Have a Constitution, Not a King?
    http://www.alternet.org/story/52801

    Bush has issued a directive that would place all governmental powers in his hands in the case of a catastrophic emergency. If a terrorist attack happens before the 2008 election, could Bush and Cheney use this to avoid relinquishing power to a successor administration?


  546. Post American says:

    Just like Hitler in the bunker or Marie Antoinette at Versialle or Saddam at the Baghdad Airport, WMD know he is going to be brought to justice!


  547. krypto says:

    This story sounds either completely fabricated or grossly exaggerated.
    Bush would never admit that he was setting up Iraq so that his successor “could not get out of our country’s destiny”.

    Anyone agree?

    Nope, and after reading Bush’s idea of occupying Iraq as we did in Korea (Not to insult but…)Hell no, no one could logically agree with that Jeff.

    Bush believes the South Korean model of occupation should be aplied to Iraq. So if he believes we should usher in the “New American Century” by staying in Iraq for half a century… how is it unbelievable he would openly state the need for a successor to “complete the destiny” Bush admittedly believes he was ordained by god to invade Iraq… I doubt this report is “far-fetched” or grossly exaggerated.

    Remember, the toned down language you see Bush ramble about in nitpicked press releases and staged photo-ops is probably much more toned down than what actually happens in company of his cronies.


  548. A rope leash says:

    Whew! What a stinking thread!

    Smirky McChimp is well on his way to establishing his country’s destiny in Iraq. There’s the huge embassy being built, as well as at least four permenant bases. He said just the other day that he saw us being in Iraq as long as we have been in Korea..50 years! You know, like Japan , like Germany, the UK, France, Phillipines…our empire is everywhere, so what? This is news?!

    As for all this atheism vs religion bullshit, what a crock. The true powers that be don’t really believe the stuff of their religions, they are only counting on YOU to beLIEve.

    Have you seen “Apocalypto”? Did you think those Mayan rulers didn’t know the eclipse was coming? Human leaders have been using relgion to get the masses to play their games since the dawn of man! Thus it will ever be, until mankind stops teaching fairy tales as fact.

    You guys keep it up…you’re getting nowhere. Yep, a general strike might help, but who is going to organize THAT? The churches? The atheists? Look, when the rednecks take up arms and head for DC, hippies like me will follow…but I ain’t holding my breath for that, either. Folks like me and y’all need to get of this web AND INTO THE STREETS now…or the next false flag will have us all living under a perpetual “Decidership”!


  549. Lee Barnum says:

    Not to worry folks. You don’t think that Bush is really going to give up his presidency do you? Wait for the next “terrorist” attack and then wait for martial law to be declared. This president is never leaving office willingly. Insane people don’t do things like that.


  550. 2 war vet says:

    INSANE! DELUSIONAL! A DRUNK! SELF CENTERED! CRAZY AS A LOON! Yes all the above apply to DUMBYA. As part of my 24 year Military career, I served 19 on Submarines. The order to fire the Nuclear missle comes from the oval office. That part of DUMBYA being in the oval office, Scares me for the safety of the American people. Somehow, Someway, He has to be removed from office, and as quickly as possible!

    God help us and the rest of the world.

    Democracy cannot be destroyed without, Unless it is destroyed within first.


  551. Martino Lazzareschi, Sr. says:

    Blind faith and blind loyalty are fairy tales!

    You see, as a veteran I know that while on active duty if a superior orders me to do something illegal then *I* am legally held accountable if I perform the illegal act.

    The action in Iraq is illegal and every service person should reread the Military Code of Justice, consult an attorney and get the hell out of Iraq.

    However, under the Patriot act, I may become under the category of “disappeared” after my words are read by the current fascist regime in the White House.

    I wonder what the weather is like in some non-usa country where they store and torture Americans like me. I hope they remember that I am a 100% disabled AMERICAN veteran! Gee, I hope they don’t undo THAT designation just because I am expressing myself here. I could become just another homeless veteran in America.

    In any case, personal risk aside, America needs MORE people demanding we get off the oil addiction and out of the war business.

    PS: I’m sending a copy of this message to the ACLU, Veterans For Peace etc. and ALL my children, grandchildren and friends. UH, just in case I “disappear” from America.


  552. Mmhm says:

    # 120, from Jake: All I’m saying is that we have to follow the rule of law. Even if he is downright insane, we’re still obligated to support in him whatever he does. So even if he starts a nuclear war, we have to stick to the rules.

    Not only are you on crack, you are the personification of What The Heck Is Wrong With People. No, WE are NOT ‘obligated to support him’ or anyone else. HE works for US, bub. Not the other way around. George Bush is NOT entitled to my support: I AM entitled to his, as a citizen of this country and his employer. I owe him nothing. He owes me everything.

    And if he was MY employee in a traditional sense, Id’a fired his ignorant carcass when he rewarded the Taliban’s destruction of the Giant Buddhas by giving them 45 some-odd million of US taxpayer money under the guise of the ‘war on drugs.’

    Six months later: 9-11. OH IT’S JUST A COINCIDENCE DON’T BE A CONSPIRACY NUT!

    Blind servitude and unquestioning fealty are NEVER, EVER an obligation of a free, thinking, human being. I am NEVER obligated to subjugate myself to any person, whether they be regent, police, or president. I might be obligated to not fight back when I’m being arrested; I’m NOT obligated to pretend I agree with the law or respect the king/officer/president, when I don’t. Can I be reasonably civil? Sure. But that doesn’t mean I have to open my mouth and smile while the military-industrial phallus is being shoved down my throat.

    My debt – and yours, and all of ours here in the US – is to *this country*; the principles upon which it was founded (and up to which it has never once lived, though slow progress is always being made) of personal freedom, personal responsibility, and government accountability are the things to which I am obligated. I am no more obligated to ’support’ GWB, or Bill Clinton, or John Kerry, or Ross Perot, or anyone else, than I am to worship at the church you tell me to or read the books you tell me to.

    I am obligated to freedom, democracy, personal responsibility, government accountability….in short, the American Way. I find, on examining the facts available, that I *can not* logically support both my country and the administration of the current president; support for one is diametric opposition to the other.

    A few folks might want to take their empty faces out of the friggin FokSnooze propaganda feed and try re-engaging your brains once in a while. Seriously, it seems like the more likely you are to vote republican, the less likely you are to be able to pass a sixth-grade civics course. We The People have dropped the ball, and we are being rewarded for that with the leaders we have earned.


  553. Yesca_Again says:

    Bush is not what we wish he was dumb, incompetent or stupid, but he is Our President.
    Look back to everything he has done, started & been thwarted at. The Iraq War is just a small piece of his origin ional agenda/plan for America. The records do show he knew about 9/11 beforehand, intentionally allowed it; fit the key to get the plan moving. Appointed to every agency, commission, etc those who were capable of doing what the plan needed.
    It is criminal that over 3000 soldiers are dead & 24000 injured, but he also caused 100000 deaths from a drug that his FDA head would not review until billions were made. Set up EPA standards that are wrecking our environment & futures, air, water, foods, etc. Trade agreements that rip employment out of the economy to bolster foreign governments. Pays war lords to grow opium, as in 90% of world production, to bolster the war on drugs machine, yet it is Americans who go to jail, die from use, get victimized by those caught up in a the culture of addiction, it remains a crime. Takes functioning governmental duties, underfunds, enviserates & dismantles them to make them fail then subcontracts out to Big business, so they can be mediocre & double the cost. Follow the money, seems to gravitate to a very few pockets, who in turn buy Republican & Democratic votes, and a National Media that is becoming more & more consolidated.
    We all see this going on & do very little to stop or even impede it. What will you do if, Yes if he decides to set up a crisis to justify him remaining in control after Jan 2009. Take up arms? Blog? Or as most of us did after 911 & just go along with the Oki Dok, because we are to busy wondering who the next American Idol will be?
    Impeach & Imprison Him Now! Bush is not scary, we are.


  554. Contrarian says:

    “Well, he is the president…” Um, no, he’s not and has never been. Installed by the felonious 5 on the supreme court, he is an unelected stooge of the NWO.


  555. Tony in Chicago says:

    To Mmhm on his most recent email: Very well stated, you most eloquently and clearly stated what most of us reading this blog feel. Thanks!


  556. sa says:

    dude,

    i’m starting to think it’s all about credit card debt.

    that’s the trap!

    get people so beholden to labor they can’t fight back.

    if we were all truly “free” people – there would be rioting in the streets.

    the whitehouse would be under seige.

    but everyone is a sheep – beholden to their debtors. they can’t step out for even a second, without putting themselves and family in jeopardy.

    the real devil in the details is debt!!!!!!!!!!!!

    the whole thing has been set up by the government. everyone is screwed!

    everyone, simultaneously, refuse to pay credit card debts – riot in the streets.

    i know this message will get me on some “lists” because it is totally true.

    sa out,
    peace out beeyatches.


  557. Karim says:

    I swear, I know 10 year olds who have more maturity than this man.


  558. Flaco says:

    I think we need to pray for our President. I would not want to have the responsibilities that he has. Just pray for him instead of cursing him. Does no good to make fun of him, because the people elected him so when you point a finger at him and call him stupid names that finger is pointing back at you. Just ask God to give him guidance.

    Comment by txgrandma

    Salt of the earth grandma – thanks for the wisdom


  559. Adam Ghaznavi says:

    With the Petrodollar, there has been such a terrible loss of life, that the smartest thing we can do is just pull it
    (more info on:
    http://spengler.atimes.net/viewtopic.php?t=4912 )


  560. Flaco says:

    Flaco, I do it every time I sign a check. Again, the year 2007 IS A.D., “in the year of our lord.”
    The numerical year we deal with every day is based upon the alleged year of jesus’s birth and has been employed by vast numbers of people for many centuries now…

    Comment by Wilco

    So we base our calender on a myth, legend, fairy tale Jebsus.
    That’s unbelievable history.

    unbelievable that we would divide human history based on a fictional Jesus character that never existed.

    Comment by Flaco — May 31, 2007


  561. A rope leash says:

    Comments regarding general strikes and payment strikes give me hope…this will really crash the system…but, how does it start?

    I, after years of trying to catch up and continually getting laid off, am considering bankrupcy. The amount of interest I’ve paid them over time more than comphensates them for the principal, and the interest rates are nothing short of usury, so I feel no guilt. In fact, I may forego bankruptcy, and just stop paying them.

    I think sa is right…Americans are stuck in a debt system that has them paying bankers a large hunk of their wages. Think about it. The average mortgage ends up paying the lender three times what the buyer borrows, and there are no other bank products to chose from. From what I understand, this is not so in Arabic and Muslim regions, where the banks assume part of the risk of buying a home. Look, a 40,000 automobile can be paid off in 6 or 7 years, so why not a house? It’s a rigged game.

    I know that I am basically working for the mortgage bankers and the credit-card hucksters. Sure, it’s “my fault” for ever getting involved, but hey, ever try to travel without a credit card? Could you buy a house without a loan? This is what keeps Americans slaving at their jobs and afraid to confront the corporations…they are scared that they will lose their jobs, and their homes, and their new SUV. Frankly, I’m sick of it…they have used me long enough…and I’ve put up with their shareholder ass-licking and their invasions of my privacy, and now it’s time for them to get their comuppance.

    Eat that, AMEX…


  562. sa says:

    are you freaking kidding me!? pray for “our” president – “you wouldn’t want the responsibilities he has”?!! – who among us with a brain and a soul wouldn’t LOVE that opportunity! only a dunce/freak would offer up such an opinion. oh god, give me that opportunity! in a second i’d take the helm! lemmings should walk off cliffs together. it’s time- go away.
    the real world hangs in the balance – some of us are invested in it. please, stupid, stay away…


  563. keith says:

    About eight hours ago, Merlin asked for more info on Georgie Anne Geyer. This link below is to a column July 2001 in which she backs Otto Reich and John Negroponte, Contras at worst are “motley”, and the Sandanistas are the huge threat:

    http://www.uexpress.com/georgieannegeyer/index.html?uc_full_date=20010724


  564. Darin Barrows says:

    This is why the Constitution excludes things that give dictatorial powers to one person. Unfortunately, the criminal, spineless, complicit as always Congress and the putrid, enabling mainstream media have kept the people in the dark and not informed them of the dictator like directives and such given to this madman. The government IS our enemy and we need to get that spread to the masses. The propaganda that is spewed on TV, in newspapers, and radio, is what is
    keeping up the illusion of government caring about we the people. We’ve ALWAYS been their enemy, and they will do whatever is necessary to keep it that way. The elite bankers and globalists ARE the government, and unless this scam is figured out and exposed by millions of us worldwide, we will be their slaves and worse, murdered for trying to reveal the truth or not agreeing to their dictatorial wishes and demands. Inform, inform, inform! Knowledge is the key to defeating these criminal bastards and bitches! They should fear us, not the other way around. NEVER, EVER trust what your government says and does, EVER! NEVER agree to give up any liberties and freedoms, for better security. The government IS the terrorist, not some Muslims, Arabs, etc., in a cave somewhere. The enemy is within, always has been. As Abraham Lincoln said: ” America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it’s because we destroyed ourselves.”


  565. theone says:

    Hey folks…hate to tell ya…the idiot in cheif is not pulling the strings…
    not one.
    The monsters pulling his are the really scary ones.


  566. Addie says:

    My cousin came back from Baghdad last week and when we asked him his take of what was going on he said and I quote, “the solider’s want out! They don’t want to be there anymore! They are over worked and burnt out!” Why can’t Mr wonderful come off his high horse and admit that he has made a hugh mistake? LOL!! I know he won’t do it but this mad man must go! I had hopes of the Demo Congress to do it but I guess they have become the rubber stamp that the old Congress was. What a disappointment to say the least. Peace to all…..


  567. rantnrave says:

    Addie…he’s not on his high horse, he is HIGH ON HORSE, COKE, ETC….


  568. MJE says:

    Impeach Bush, impeach Cheney.


  569. Robert says:

    This unstable guy has his finger on the RED BUTTON.


  570. Addie says:

    rantnrave, I wouldn’t put it past him!!


  571. Krashkopf says:

    It is clear that Bush is trying to get the U.S. so deeply invested in Iraq that we can never leave (or at least not leave for the next 50 years).

    Bush’s incoherent rantings are making him sound more and more like the fictional Gen. Jack D. Ripper (of Dr. Strangelove fame) who launched his nuclear attack in the belief that, once his planes were pass the failsafe point, the politicians in Washington would have NO CHOICE but to launch a full scale attack.

    I am afraid that lunatic in Washington with his finger on “the button.”


  572. Trish says:

    The guy is a nut case. What the hell do you expect?
    but what about the idiots who voted him “president”>


  573. Trish says:

    The guy is a nut case.
    What the hell do you expect?
    How about the idiots who voted him in office?


  574. Marsha says:

    This man should have been impeached a long time ago. He’s a liar and his lies have gotten thousands of people killed. It always amazes me that he still has supporters of any kind.


  575. Addie says:

    Trish wrote>>
    The guy is a nut case.
    What the hell do you expect?
    How about the idiots who voted him in office?

    Trish, he was not Elected he was Selected!!!


  576. FreedomOfInformatinAct says:

    Bush is a narcisistic meglomaniac with delusions of grandeur.

    He and his ilk all need to be impeached, tried, convicted and sentenced for their crimes against this nation and humanity.

    Let the investigations uncover the constructs of the PNAC GOP agenda to seize control for their own benefit. War profittering is a crime.

    Congress must step up to the plate and hold them accountable for their actions over the past six years in office.


  577. deckchair says:

    the most powerful country in the world and is this the type of leader they vote for. Next time vote for mickey mouse he wont be half as bad


  578. lizzy says:

    and what kind of -friend- reports something like this? Take it with a grain of salt


  579. Pittsburgh Peat. says:

    “This man should have been impeached a long time ago. He’s a liar and his lies have gotten thousands of people killed. It always amazes me that he still has supporters of any kind.”

    His supporters are BIG corporations they could care less if G.B. is a lunatic.
    As long as they keep raping America.


    Google this:

    videoplay?docid=-6802228062297352475&q=Greg+Palast

    watch it and educate yourself!

    Please pass it along!



  580. Merlin says:

    You tell me which one you are, Wacer.
    Comment by Merlin — June 1, 2007 @ 6:25 am

    He lied. He supports Bush.

    Comment by Zooey — June 1, 2007 @ 11:04 am

    Thanks Zooey, for what is undoubtly true. I knew he would not have the guts to confront me. He is of that mealy mouth breed of 101st fighting keyboardist creeps we see here frequently.

    BTW. Have you noticed, all of a sudden, that the trolls say “I don’t support the administration (or president), BUT…” The word “BUT” used this way, psychologically says, “I didn’t mean what I just said before the BUT. Interesting, huh?

    TROLL UPDATE, film at 11:
    That locker room meeting of the trolls at the West Hollywood Gym for Men, last night with VV giving a lecture probably stressed that. Word has it that VV is pissed that they aren’t doing their job in an adequate fashion. I tried telling ‘em TP is the big leagues and to shape up, or ship back to the minor leagues over at little green footballs.


  581. Mike the Kike says:

    It is clear to me that both Bush and Cheney have committed impeachable offenses. Probably the easiest to prove would be perjury, since they both swore to uphold and defend the Constitution, which they have both done everything they could to attack and undermine. That said, I find the repeated name-calling both infantile and inane.
    It is even more inane for the writers on this forum to hurl personal attacks at those with whom they disagree. Not every person with whom one disagrees is an a$$h@le. Not everyone who is politically right of center is a facist or a Nazi. Not everyone who opposes the current conflict is a stooge of al-Quaida. Not everyone who believes/d that Sadaam was a vicious dictator that the Iraqi people hated and feared, as well as a threat to his neighbors, is a “neo-con idiot”.
    As to the original story, Georgie Anne Geyer is not known for her strict adherence to fact when fact didn’t support what she wanted to say. It is conceivable that she created the meeting, the friends and their fears out of whole cloth, as she has created realities on other occasions. George Bush and Dick Cheney may be evil and corrupt. I think it would be a dangerous mistake to consider either of them stupid or crazy/


  582. Michael Keenan says:

    Werner Heisenberg’s “National Socialist student” and “Max Planck.”

    My next political conversation, which I found very topical for today, comes from Physics and Beyond, Encounters and Conversations by the famous German physicist Werner Heisenberg. In chapter 12 of Revolution and Student Life we come upon two revealing colloquies, one with a National Socialist student and one with the father of German science, Max Planck. In the subtext Heisenberg sees, like the great period of change after the middle ages, the results of great technical change and upheaval taking place that is leading some nations to war.

    A National Socialist student finds Professor Heisenberg who graciously grants time for and takes questions from this student who soon “pours his heart out.” “Why are you so offish towards the movement?” This sets off a great extensive give and take on assessment of political objectives that ends with Heisenberg countering the students “New Germany” and “more foes, more hero’s” position with: “I am firmly convinced that we must never judge political movements by their aims. Now when it comes to means, you National Socialists are no different from the Communists; the leaders of both movements have clearly lost faith in the persuasive force of their own ideas. Hence both leave me quite unmoved except for the fact that I am sadly convinced that both will bring down misfortune on Germany.” During the weeks following this conversation university life only became more intolerable because of greater political interference by the Nazi authorities. Jewish faculty and colleagues were being dismissed so Heisenberg sought out an interview with Max Planck.

    Right off Max says, “You have come to get my political advice on a political questions but I am afraid I can no longer advise you. I see no hope of stopping the catastrophe that is about to engulf all our universities, indeed our whole country…..I would like to appraise you of my conversation with Hitler a few days ago. I had hoped to convince him that he was doing enormous damage to the German university, and particularly to physical research, by expelling our Jewish colleagues; to show him how senseless and utterly immoral it was to victimize men who have always thought of themselves a Germans, and who offered up their lives for Germany like everyone else. But I failed to make myself understood-or, worse, there is simply no language in which one can talk to such men. He has lost all contact with reality. What others say to him is at best an annoying interruption, which he immediately drowns by incessant repetitions of the same old phrases about the decay of healthy intellectual life during the past fourteen years, about the need to stop the rot even at this late hour, and so on. All the time, one has the fatal impression that he believes all the nonsense that he pours forth, and he indulges his own delusions by ignoring all outside influences. He is so possessed by his so-called ideas that he is no longer open to argument. A man like that can only lead Germany into disaster.”

    To stay or flee prewar Germany is considered along with the different outcomes and then the fellow professor bids his leave. Heisenberg on the way home decides to stay in Germany for the sake of German science and “think of the time after the catastrophe,” the only advice that Max Planck could offer him. Two years later the first shot would open World War II. I cannot help but see a reflection of where we are today in this political conversation and how the philosophy of neither Jefferson nor Dr. King, as we shall see, would have never been welcome in Nazi Germany as Professor Heisenberg eventually found out. Indeed, we find two chapters later in Behavior in the Face of Political Disaster the courageous German scientist uttering, “We shall simply have to wait. Until such time as we can do anything at all. Meanwhile we must try to keep order in the small corners to which our own lives are confined.” After all who would listen?


  583. Just Curious says:

    Just curious, but why is there no mention of these “friends” of his names?

    Sounds pretty bogus, even if I’m not a fan of his. Sometimes I get the feeling our side has too many lying loonies. Sometimes it seems like we’re worse than the republicans.


  584. Mike the Kike says:

    My comment, made between #583 and # 584 seems to have vanished. I keep getting a “looks like you already said that” message when I try to resubmit. The comment was:

    It is clear to me that both Bush and Cheney have committed impeachable offenses. Probably the easiest to prove would be perjury, since they both swore to uphold and defend the Constitution, which they have both done everything they could to attack and undermine. That said, I find the repeated name-calling both infantile and inane.
    It is even more inane for the writers on this forum to hurl personal attacks at those with whom they disagree. Not every person with whom one disagrees is an a$$h@le. Not everyone who is politically right of center is a facist or a Nazi. Not everyone who opposes the current conflict is a stooge of al-Quaida. Not everyone who believes/d that Sadaam was a vicious dictator that the Iraqi people hated and feared, as well as a threat to his neighbors, is a “neo-con idiot”.
    As to the original story, Georgie Anne Geyer is not known for her strict adherence to fact when fact didn’t support what she wanted to say. It is conceivable that she created the meeting, the friends and their fears out of whole cloth, as she has created realities on other occasions. George Bush and Dick Cheney may be evil and corrupt. I think it would be a dangerous mistake to consider either of them stupid or crazy


  585. CURTIS says:

    HA HA HA AND BUSH DONT BELIVE IN EVOLUTION….WELL HE LOOKED LIKE A MONKEY BEATING HIS CHEST…


  586. Man from God NOT UNCLE ! says:

    More rumors !

    Get a life You left wing NUTS !

    You should be flown to the front line of every battlefield
    where U.S. military personnel serve , are injured and die
    valiently . Daily ! Then You can taste Islamic fundamentalist
    justice instead of whining about how wierd the President
    of the United States is !

    You are a group of whiner losers !

    Your lasdt Prez. was wierd too !
    He had US Air Force bombers painted with UN colors .
    Then bombed the people of Yugoslavia .
    Innocent civilians !

    As the rotten bullies on the ground rounded
    up other innocent mostly poor country people into
    Army trucks . Drove then up mountain sides .
    And took turns raping women , and throwing
    women and children off the roadsides !

    See I was alive when Harry S. Truman
    was President of the United States of America .
    A true American patriot and honest President !

    Then Who was our Leader You infantile whiners ?
    Dwight Eisenhower . Then President John F. Kennedy .
    A courageous Catholis war hero patriot Democrat .
    Not some ” rat ” ! Like slick peter Willie , e t c …

    Kennedy died for the USA ! As did Bobby Kennedy !
    And Martin Luther King , Junior !

    Men of absolute truth based principles
    Who LIVED and DIED for what they knew to be true !

    How about You whiners ?
    Is Senator Hillary and the other Capitol hill swill
    the best that Demonkats have to offer ?

    Think about it dammit !

    After Kennedy a Democrat L.B. J.
    escalated the war in Vietnam thus fattening His
    southeast Asia investment profits ! E T C ….

    Have You seen the ” Fog of War ” yet ?
    See it ! Learn some FACTS of life !

    Unlike the rumor mongering , paranoid
    delusions of left wing whiners and perverts !

    Send Your Heroine Jane Fonda to the front line too !

    After Johnson came Who ?
    Nixon that is Who !

    A real delusion of grandeur threat to liberty !
    His rats went to prison You know .

    As many Demonkats and Republibrats should today !
    The ones Who are not SHOT for treason in time of war
    that is .

    Jerald Ford – You might have heard of Vice President
    Rockefeller and Ford served out the Nixon term of office .

    Then came Shazam ! Golly – Gee Jimmy !
    Carter . A former US Navy Atomic Navy nuclear submariner
    engineer . Surrounded by naive goober pickers !

    Who could not deal with the Ayatollan in where ?
    Tehran You idiots !

    So Who did ? The Reagan people that is Who !

    I know a lot about that time You ignoramuses ,
    Served as an axctive duty US Air Force officer
    in Europe . Where were You ?

    In Canada ? Or Scandanavia ?
    Or did You return after the pardon of
    Vietnam war military service deserters ?
    Traitors .

    Well after Reagan came Dad Bush !
    Good Lord ! Another nut case !

    Then slick and fadt with the prick Willie
    and Komerade wanna be co president
    Hillary ! See the movie or read
    ” Primary Colors ” and be informed about
    that bunch !

    Apparently ze Klintons had Ron Brown
    killed along with the US Air Force crew and
    others too ! On a commerce mission to where ?
    You find out . A war zone mush heads !

    Well after the Klinton regime came our current President .
    Yes the Son of a Bush .

    Is He perfect ? No of course not !
    Neither are You !

    Who the Heaven hell on earth , or wherever
    do You whining liberals have to offer as a serious
    Presidential candiadte of the United States
    of America ?

    Who dammit ! ? !

    Tell us who will You ?

    Get involved in Your local community .
    As more and more people Who have abandoned
    the two corrupt ” big ” for now party machines
    DO ! Do ! Get it ! DO !

    As for the war and the president ?
    You are pathetic and worse !

    Ignorant and worse !

    Get a life will You ?
    Just get a real life .

    Or get out of the Unites States of America .
    PLEASE !

    Oh and thank God for the comment
    number before mine ! Number 584 .
    Such stories are for morons ,
    losers , and whiners to believe !


  587. Man from God NOT UNCLE says:

  588. Sandi says:

    Why the hell is that freak still in office? Jesus he scares me!!


  589. beavis says:

    “You should be flown to the front line of every battlefield where U.S. military personnel serve …”

    Comment by Man from God NOT UNCLE ! — June 1, 2007

    “… uh, you first … Butthead … “


  590. Merlin says:

    # 584 Comment by Just Curious — June 1, 2007 @ 6:06 pm

    …even if I’m not a fan of his.

    Yeah, really! You are a neocon shill.

    Stupid troll. I just exposed your phony bullshit statement that all you trolls have begun using in my comment above yours. Yet you used it anyway. Rigid, programmed and stupid!


  591. idiotliberal says:

    LOL BUSH IS DUM VERY ORIGINAL COMMENT MONKEY


  592. Merlin says:

    #585 Comment by Man from God NOT UNCLE ! — June 1, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

    What a long winded jerk you are. Try editing your garbage before you post it here.

    Oh, and I’m “just curious,” did you just wake up from a long sleep, Rip Van Winkle? “Klinton” has been gone for 7 years. your whole post is an outdated sleep…zzzzzzz

    Psssst. Here is a hint, troll wannabe, straighten out your act or you are going to be in contention for the biggest laughing stock on TP.


  593. Doug@usa.com says:

    Someone needs to give him a Luger with a single bullet in the chamber, put him into a small room by himself, and let him do the right thing. He’s a suicide begging for the chance, give it to him or he’ll kill us all.


  594. hsing lee says:

    This isn’t altogether surprising. George Walker Bush is a prime example of what happens when cousins marry… he is quite literally an inbred.

    His parents are cousins. If you don’t believe me and think I’m just being mean, or if the editors are considering rejecting this comment for being hate speech or non-factual, check Burke’s Peerage… George Herbert Walker Bush and Barbara Pierce are COUSINS. And Junior is what happens when cousins marry.


  595. darker says:

    GWBush = product of incest.
    Rove sold y’all a bad, bad bill o’ goods: GWBush’s fake image.
    Liar Rove’s a 4-letter word who should be
    deported to life imprisonment in
    Barbara Bush’s basement.



  596. Vladimir O. says:

    Sure, after all the hoopla about Bush “beating his chest,” all I heard was of the murderer stating that “I am the Decider” (referring to Rumsfelds’ outing).

    I haven’t seen any video yet on the killer beating his chest.


  597. Former Ssg. says:

    The more I read about this man, the more I believe that the
    neocon(munists) had something to do with 9-11.
    Considering Prescott Bushs ties to Hitler, I feel this person playing the grand dictator must be removed from office. Maybe the deserter-in-chief could fulfill his military obligation by serving in Iraq as a mine finder.
    He should be replaced with someone that doesn’t believe that the Constitution is just a “God damned piece of paper.” I would pray that that person doesn’t get assassinated by the true rulers of the US for trying to enforce the Constitution like Kennedy did. After all the United States has been foreign owned and operated since 1913.
    May God help us.


  598. JessWonderin says:

    my goodness . . . so much to say about this pathetic POS. The rats are jumping ship and Captian Queeg walks the halls re-arranging his collection of My Legacy Golden Books . . . if this keeps up we’re gonna need a deeper ocean to drown those rats . . .


  599. Old Fashioned Lincoln Liberal says:

    Dear Friends:

    It is obvious from the story that the Shrub never really grew out
    of “authoritarian narcissistic”, “skull and bones”, sophomoric, pugnacious puberty.

    So what? There is nothing new about how his “authoritarian narcissistic” personality disorders express themselves in various ways.

    But, please, may I ask the rest of the contributors to this blog to try and keep it about the “sophomoric, pugnacious pubertarian level.”

    Leave that to the hysterical neo-cons.

    Enjoy your post memorial day holidays. Pray for everybody in Iraq.

    As for Mr Bush, he reminds me that the human genome structure has about 30.000 genomes, while those of our closest relatives, the chimpanzee, have only 27.000. No better proof of Darwin`s theories than Mr. Bush himself. (Being a bit silly and sophomoric myself- I wonder if his father and mother did not celebrate the end of W.W. II at a New York Socialite party in the N.Y. zoo, and Barbara, having had a bit too much to drink, had a black out and passed out in the chimpanzee cage for the evening? – No wonder he is opposed to human genome research. )

    Anyhow – enjoy the day.

    Old Fashioned Lincoln Liberal


  600. Old Fashioned Lincoln Liberal says:

    People:

    Have a nice day. Ex-pat, nam vet liberal who loves living in Europe.

    What is the difference between Germany and the United States.
    Well, the Germans have it behind them.

    Old Fashioned Lincoln Liberal , ex-pat vet who left the country
    of “authoritarian narcissists” for good reason.

    Old Fashioned Lincoln Liberal


  601. Andrew Milner says:

    A borderline retard with a double-digit IQ has single-handedly humiliated the United States and endangered the entire world. But enough about George W. Bush. As the role of US president is so important, should voting be restricted to US citizens with an IQ of 100 and over? Then GWB wouldn’t have even been able to vote. Look at IQ average by state and notice how Red States fall into the lower half of the chart. I’m trying to avoid arriving at the obvious conclusion, but you simply can’t. If the US had let in more Asians it may have raised the average in some states.


  602. William Cormier says:

    In September of 2006, I wrote a piece on Bush’s mental condition, substantiated with appropriate links; I was curious why that article was once again receiving more hits – but after reading the above it’s now obvious. Once again, the President’s mental state is again questioned – and people are searching for any links that demonstrate previous mental instability.

    These reports substantiate the suspicions back in 2006 and demonstrate that it’s entirely possible that the President of The United States could be suffering from serious psychological and/or other issues that affect his ability to carry out his duties:

    Bush Sr., Psychiatrists worry President is having Mental Breakdown! Updated!

    I find it truly frightening that the American people have no legal way to demand a psychological evaluation of a President suspected of suffering from a possible mental breakdown; I am hopeful our military and other federal entities are somehow monitoring this situation and have some sort of plan to implement if he demonstrates (by an irrational order or extremely bizarre behavior) that he is a risk to himself and others.


  603. Chad says:

    Not surprising – he has the mentality of an 8 year old. He doesn’t know how to logically resolve conflict. Instead, he beats his chest like an emotionally challenged child. When are we going to wake up and get that Bozo out of office? IMPEACH.


  604. MardiGras Bandit says:

    This story is probably bull, and the article it is taken from betrays a total lack of understanding of the Bush administrations view of the world:

    The White House sees terrorists as born, not created by history, bearing the mark of Cain, not the mark of circumstance. There is a scarlet “T” written on their foreheads at birth and the only answer is to destroy them. This kind of thinking, of course, relieves the thinker of any responsibility for the presence of the insurgent-terrorist-whatever in our innocent midst.

    No, they don’t. If they did we would not be in Iraq. The entire war on terror is based on Bush’s belief that terrorism can be defeated by giving its likely practitioners a more hopeful world. More then any other president, Bush sees terrorism as something that can be solved. By no means does he view terrorism as a static force.


  605. Botany says:

    Nucking Futz.
    1) He knows he did not win either election and it is eating
    him up inside.

    b) He knows that Dick Cheney and others see themselves as
    the real leaders.

    iii) He knows that he is going down and that all he can do is
    lash out in rage & fury.

    Take the “football” away from him.


  606. anonomus says:

    WHO is watching these lunitics?
    WHO is watching the FOOTBALL?
    (football is the blackbox for nukes ect,if u believe the movies)


  607. GOPHater says:

    This guy is not only stupid, he’s NUTS. He and Cheney should be dragged out of the WH, put in jail for war crimes, treason, and murder. Then the sentence for those crimes should be carried out once convicted. It’s that simple. The sentence should be carried out on TV so the whole world can see that in America, finally, we do what is right.


  608. Arliss says:

    The cheese stands alone.


  609. Artsy says:

    Be AFRAID!
    Be very AFRAID!

    This man hates you and hates me and hates little frogs.

    He chokes on pretzels, passing out. Is that really possible? unless you’re stuffing your mouth full.

    He uses 9.11 like it’s his Reichstag Fire.

    He lies about it.

    He has confidence is GONZALES? who’s proven to be a bad liar AND incompetent AND corrupt AND loyal to a CRIMINAL subversion of our elections, (see GregPalast.com, whose now been able to get Conyers to see the Rove emails) . We’ve caught them with blood and the smeared ink of the Constitution / Bill of Rights dripping off of their hands 100 times now. GO CONYERS AND KUCINICH. IT’s a race against the clock to get them out of office NOW, not later.

    in the meantime WATCH OUT for MORE FALSE FLAG TERROR ATTACKS on US CITIZENS!
    (google Operation Northwoods for the govt. documents that will change your worldview, if it’s still “post 9/11″.)


  610. zc says:

    Spare a thought for Britain. While you in the US have had to put with Bush for the past 6 years, we in Britain have had the mis-fortune of having the self righteous Tony Blair for the past 10 years.

    While I applaud the Democratic System as a means of rule – lately I am having serious doubts about this mechanism as a means of electing asses who seemingly exhibit a total disinterest in the will of the people who, in hindsight & therefore stupidity, elected them in the first place.

    So called ‘democratic checks & balances’ in Western Democracies appear to have failed miserably to contain the blatantly undemocratic excesses of our government. They openly lie to their electorate while large sections of our media consistently refuse to expose them, & in many cases spin & re-spin the lies until ignorant of truth many of us unwittingly accept the lie as truth.

    Please excuse my cynical outlook – but history will surely record the unfortunate times we live in as a period when our sensibilities were so subverted that we took to sleepwalking as a national sport.


  611. Ed says:

    “Friends of his from Texas were shocked…”?????!!!!! WTF???!!! You mean it’s taken them this long to figure out that this dufuss is not fit to be the President??!! Just how stupid are his friends?!


  612. Eli says:

    Why are people still sooo brainwashed and blind to everything that has been going on for along time such as the bohemian grove meetings that have been publicly going on for many decades, bilderberg meetings of the global elite(as of now in istanbul at the ritz carlton theres their yearly meeting going on and TX governor rick perry has been invited this to attend this year), and the corrupt lies we have been told about like putting fluoride in the water supply and thinking its acceptable to put your kids in front of the mind control machine we call the tv for hours and along with that everyone believes almost everything thats reported on tv most is twisted and so much more is never ever covered. THIS RANT BY BUSH IS ANOTHER WINDOW INTO THEIR ACTUALLY PLANS. IT IS DOCUMENTED THAT WHEN THE IRAQ WAR STARTED CLASSIFIED MILITARY MEMOS STATED THEY PLANNED THAT THE WAR WOULD GO FOR 30 YEARS. THEY ARE MAKING PERMANENT BASE CAMPS THERE AS WE SPEAK


  613. david says:

    Ok, if the president didnt win the popular vote twice in a row, and if said ‘president’, illegally wiretaps his own citizens, has them arrested and held without charges, indefinately, in secret prisons, lies to the populous and doctors intelligence to invade and occupy a foreign country AND tries to take-over the judiciary system by hiring loyalists into non-partisan positions to insure future election fraud…cant we find a reason to impeach his dishonest, unworthy ass?


  614. William Cormier says:

    Sooooo many people on every progressive site are asking: “Why hasn’t Bush been impeached?” The evidence is there, loads of it, and more is appearing almost daily. Bush’s advisor’s are jumping ship en masse’ – yet the two perpetrators of this assault against America are still running the country. Why?

    It’s a logical question when we look back at the ferocity of the Clinton Impeachment proceedings – where “being honest and truthful” became a wedge issue for the Republican Party. Now, with evidence and charges that make Clinton look like a choir boy compared to Bush – Congress refuses to begin impeachment proceedings against this administration. Everyone asks why, over and over again. Nothing seems to make sense.

    Personally, I believe it all makes sense! If you look back at the years when J. Edgar Hoover was in charge of the FBI, it was revealed that Hoover had smut and dirt on most of the politicians in Washington, and he used that knowledge to blackmail those who were his opponents; Unfortunately, it worked for J. Edgar Hoover – and I believe the Neo-cons learned well from Mr. Hoover – and have employed his tactics to hold on to power in spite of the growing mountain of evidence that demands Bush/Cheney be impeached, indicted, and eventually thrown in prison for crimes against humanity.

    Now the Presidency has the NSA wiretapping program to gather intel on our own Congressmen – and some think that’s exactly whats happening!

    The NSA Wiretapping Program – Is Bush spying on Politicians?

    No, there is no “smoking gun” – but with the interference and roadblocks presented by the White House, very little progress, if any, is being made in the investigation of NSA, evidence that could seal this President’s fate!

    Five Million emails missing? Sure, they just disappeared. Many Bloggers have assumed these “missing emails” were destroyed because they would have proven election fraud – and they probably would; much more sinister than election fraud would be the blackmailing of key members of Congress – evidence of such which was probably contained in those emails which is now “lost” (sic).

    There has to be a reason that Congress is being cowed by a President that has little real support; when we found the Justice Department had been infiltrated by Pat Robertson clones and was now an extension of White House policy rather than a separate branch of government – the uproar should have toppled this administration post haste, and under normal circumstances, it would have spelled doom to any other President with a scandal that made Watergate look insignificant in comparison; For Bush, it seems to be nothing more than a slight “speed bump,” and there has to be a reason.

    If Bush has broken just about every law on the books – why wouldn’t he avail himself of the one asset that could be keeping him in power? If the Constitution is nothing more than a “Goddamn piece of paper” to President Bush, why does anyone “assume” that he hasn’t broken other laws and statutes to keep his illegal administration in power?


  615. SEM says:

    Alas, we can add insanity to his long list of deficient reasoning abilities – Impeach the imbecile now!


  616. Thom Asspain says:

    Well, if this doesn’t convince the “creationist” freaks of the validity of Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution, nothing will. Not only are humans descended from savage, bloodthirsty jungle apes, there are obviously many – such as this pathetic creature – who have a lot of catching up to do.


  617. blueinmo says:

    Bush like the Captain in Moby Dick has gone insane.
    Yes Ohio Congressman John Boehner cried like a spoiled child who wasn’t getting his way. He in fact hates the troops along with most of the GOP in D.C.
    That’s right! Go look at the way the Dems and the GOP voted for veterans issues in 2005. Most GOP voted 0 ZERO% while the DEMS have nearly a 98%.
    Click here to see who really LOVES the veterans:

    http://www.vawatchdog.org/old%20newsflashes%20MAY%2006/newsflash05-14-2006-1.htm

    And if anyone says the DAV Disabled American Veterans are bias I’ll sock ya in the nose!


  618. Terry C - End Bush's War Now says:

    I cannot BELIEVE that there are people who still defend/support/make excuses for The Monkey Boy.

    What is WRONG with them?


  619. Terry C - End Bush's War Now says:

    ” Ah yes. Divorce. The modern way for women to get rid of men they’ve grown bored of. Yet another sign of the times.”

    Oh yeah – because we ALL know that MEN never get tired of their wives/girlfriends and dump them for newer models.

    Give me a break.


  620. Terry C - End Bush's War Now says:

    ” Ah yes. Divorce. The modern way for women to get rid of men they’ve grown bored of. Yet another sign of the times.”

    Oh yeah – right, sure. Because we ALL know that MEN have NEVER dumped WOMEN.

    Give me break! What sexist twaddle.


  621. Terry C - End Bush's War Now says:

    One of the vows to become a member of Skull & Bones one must deny Jesus Christ; you must be a Satanist.
    His passion is real because he and his handlers are satanists; we do not recognize them for what they are because we are not that evil.

    Don’t insult Satanists.


  622. tym4cng says:

    so the question after everyones apathetic ranting is : What are YOU going to do? sit at your keyboard and make fun of people? wow and you think bush is regressed !!! you all (MOST OF YOU) take great pride in doing this.. but have any of you actually done anything to bring about the changes??? (don’t all OOOOOOoo at once) you people are so typical of the reason we are in this mess to begin with Irresponsibility!!!! you are all so conditioned to letting some one else do it for you (like mom and dad)…that you haven’t even got the guts anymore to get up off your ass and take action writing won’t do anything………….


  623. xBIGxEASYx says:

    The Chest thumping and whining don’t bother me too much but if he starts cowering in a corner throwing feces at his friends, then we have a problem.


  624. bob says:

    God I’m glad I just moved to Canada.

    No wait, I’m not, it’s just as bad here. Shit.


  625. john says:

    yet another similarity with Hitler


  626. lilchick says:

    Vladimir O, He is now “The Dictator”. He signed the directive on May 9, just a few weeks ago.
    http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=2169
    I’m sure there will be a terrorist attack engineered before the 2008 elections. Martial law will be imposed, the elections will be suspended indefinitely.
    Remember when Gen. Tommy Franks said in 2003 that Martial Law would replace the Constitution after the next terrorist attack?
    http://infowars.com/print/ps/franks_martial.htm


  627. Daren says:

    I’m shocked! Bush has friends?


  628. Daren says:

    I’m Shocked. Bush has friends?


  629. null and droid says:

    Men can be very emotional and irrational. Bush proves that. He’s hysterical.


  630. acmedata says:

    Strange – the piece by Georgie Anne Geyer is no longer on the Dallas Morning News site.


  631. Azmtnman says:

    Shane said: Where were his handlers to keep him under control. I know he has them because Lewis Black talks about them. ….. he is entirely delusional.

    Bush is, and has been since being elected, an egomaniacal, bellicose, idiot that his “bosses” never anticipated. He needs a straight jacket, a major tranquilizer and removal from the presidency before he completely destroys this nation! Supporters of this pernicious, miscreant are just plain stupid! Many are low level military (NCO’s) or ex military and war and authority is all they understand. Never question authority is their creed! The dumbing and destruction of America has been going on for too long under this crass individual’s leadership!


  632. cturtle48 says:

    Too bad we lost Molly Ivans in the past year; she would have loved to write a column about this. Come back Molly Ivans…we need you!


  633. lilchick says:

    Jerome Corsi from World Net Daily was speaking on the Coast to Coast last night, command and control was heading into one of their mountain bunker’s.
    Something is afoot, maybe another terrorist attack in the works?
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56040


  634. David Kendall says:

    Sounds like Bush taking is credit for the work of others. And who’da thunk? I certainly believe he might do a little “chest thumping”, but only because he’s a spoiled-rotten rich kid, who thinks he’s entitled to take anything he damn-well wants.

    Essentially, George W. Bush is a corporate puppet — probably not bright enough to mastermind his own bodily functions, let alone a global disaster like “Iraq”. Anyone who responds to his “chest-thumping” and cries, “I told you so”, is missing a much larger and more sinister picture.


  635. Dana says:

    While I don’t have the technical knowledge to create such a site, I think I have the idea and would like to send it out there to the techies that are so well “endowed” with skills. This is the idea, create a site of Gee-Dubya’s future Pres-u-denchul Lie-Bury, where as you enter, you are presented with various piles of debris, papers, etc. of his endless, numerous, filthy and cluttered coverups, lies, blatant misrepresentations, etc.. Under the various piles could be nasty varmints with Cheney and Rove like faces, scurrying about like the cockroaches they are. As you click on the piles of shit, you are directed to videos, newsclips, etc. that document these lies in chronological order so they can be seen from fast frothy conception to bloody, life sucking, limb severing abortion. This is his legacy, and unfortunately ours since we failed in some twisted ways to void his illegal rule and corrupt administration. It’s funny, but not in a ha ha way. Kind of like laughing at the handicapped kid who gets chosen as prom king.


  636. Brian says:

    I’m sorry, but this petty argument is giving me a headache. I’m 15 years old, but I’m pretty interested in this whole ordeal. The fact my generation will be ravaged by war( Think All Quiet On The Western Front) gives me the strength to speak out against this war. If you truly must esort to childish name-calling and personal attacks, your opinion is worthless to me. In the case of bible-thumpers who treat this war as another Crusade, I shall refer to one of the Ten Commandments: Thou Shalt Not Kill. There is no justification for the actions of this administration. Bush and his cronies are all criminals, and deserve to be tried on war crimes. Under no circumstances should any moral person be a blind patriot. Consider this: You work in an office, and you discover your manager has been moonlighting for a competitor, and personally profits from from the office’s misfortune. As your superior, he demands that you keep it a secret. Would you hold your tongue just
    because he’s your superior? Granted, the reality is much more complex, but the concept is the same. The neocons have nothing to lose from this war. As always, this is the Children’s Crusade. This isn’t Bush’s war anymore- I


  637. Brian says:

    For Bush to have such bravado fightens me. This behavior is suited for silverbacks, not the de facto leader of the free world. Now obviously some one will send a scathing reply, no doubt calling me a flower-fondling liberal. So, in response, I want to let everyone know that that the Democrats let us down too. I would find it funny if someone were to criticize the opinions of someone who can’t even vote yet.


  638. Squamous Cell says:

    When we take over in ‘08, we will round up the neocons and the facists and the Jerry Falwellians and just beat the living crap out of you Fright-Wingers for about 12 years. Deal with it.


  639. Dottie Gutenkauf says:

    My reaction, titled ‘DUBYA DEVOLVES”

    Some of Dubya’s friends report
    He pounds his chest and shouts,
    “I’m the President! I’m the President!”
    Dubya’s friends are worried.

    He who rejects evolution
    Is rapidly evolving backwards.
    Our cousins the chimps are worried, too.
    They don’t want him either.

    Feel free to share, but please give me credit and let me know at DGutenkauf@aol.com. Thanks!


  640. Denek says:

    We have a President and Vice President who could well be convicted of war crimes and crimes against humanity, but our Congress fails to do anything toward eradicating them from office. Might this make them accomplices in these crimes?


  641. SCOOB says:

    mmmm, TASTES LIKE INTERNATIONAL BOLSHEVISM!
    Go Jacobins go!
    Run Reds Run!
    THE GLOBALISTS ARE COMMING THE GLOBALISTS ARE COMMING!
    Pirates of the Persian Gulf
    Comming by cruise missle to a Mosque near you, Summer ‘07.

    OH MAH GAWD HELP!!!!



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