CDC’s Ability To Respond To Tuberculosis Scare Hampered By Bush’s Budget Cuts
CDC’s Ability To Respond To Tuberculosis Scare Hampered By Bush’s Budget Cuts
A Georgia man with extremely drug-resistant tuberculosis (TB) “is now in an Atlanta hospital under federally enforced isolation” after recently taking two transatlantic flights, which might have exposed other passengers to the disease.
Though the man ignored requests by public health officials not to travel, the New York Times reports that “the episode also raised questions about how rapidly health officials could respond to a similar emergency with other deadly infectious diseases.”
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has been instrumental in dealing with this recent TB case. President Bush has repeatedly lauded their work in public health. From 2001:
I believe — firmly believe that because of the good folks who work in this building and other buildings throughout Atlanta, Georgia, and throughout the country for CDC, that we’ve saved a lot of lives in America. … I’m going to talk about public health officials as part of being the new heroes of America. And that’s why I’ve come by today, to thank them.
Yet despite his rhetoric, Bush has repeatedly proposed slashing the CDC’s budget:
– 2002: Proposed a $174 million cut.
– 2003: Proposed a $1 billion cut, with no new funding for preventive health divisions working on TB.
– 2004: Proposed an increase of “less than 1 per cent.”
– 2005: Proposed a $263 million cut, while simultaneously proposing a $270 million increase in abstinence education.
– 2006: Proposed a $500 million cut which would have slashed grants to state and local health departments like the Fulton County Health and Wellness Department involved in this week’s TB-scare.
– 2007: Proposed a $179 million cut, in addition to unspecified plans for more CDC “savings.”
– 2008: Proposed a $37 million cut, including “massive funding cuts in proven health protection programs.”
In a report submitted to the House Appropriations Committee earlier this year, CDC Director Julie Gerberding warned that a TB outbreak could result from the administration’s proposed cuts. She noted that “emerging plagues such as drug-resistant tuberculosis represent ‘urgent threats that have become more prominent in the dawn of the 21st century.’”
Additionally, Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association, points out that the full scale of the “erosion of [CDC's] traditional disease control activities has been ‘masked’ by infusions of cash earmarked for spending on bioterrorism and pandemic activities.”
But even Bush’s myopic focus on terrorism does not appear to have paid off. The Department of Homeland Security has been unable to explain how the TB-infected man was able to simply drive into the United States on his return trip from Canada when “all border crossings had been given his name and told to hold him if he appeared.”
UPDATE: The patient is now being treated in Denver.
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May 31st, 2007 at 5:56 pmit’s important to realize that the bushco strategy has been to deliberately cripple government functions, to, as grover norquist so famously said, to shrink it down to the size that it can be drowned in the bathtub… bushco doesn’t WANT government to work, and, moreover, they don’t want us to think it SHOULD work… nothing serves as a case study of that better than the aftermath of hurricane katrina, an aftermath that is still with us… if we all died of a rampaging plague of an unforeseen disease, you can better believe that bush and cheney would have the proper protections, but, in the “on-your-own-ership”society, it would be just tough shit for us peasants…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
May 31st, 2007 at 5:57 pmIs there no problem that can’t be solved by spending other people’s money?
May 31st, 2007 at 5:59 pmActually,
The person is not in Atlanta, he is being treated in Denver.
-aut0mat0r
May 31st, 2007 at 6:01 pmI’m not sure why anyone is surprised by the healthcare budget cuts. After all we have a war on turism to fight and it costs alot of money. We have to fight em over there before I have to smoke em out and git em over here. I’m the President …..beats chest three times.
Dubya
May 31st, 2007 at 6:01 pmIs there no problem that can’t be solved by spending other people’s money?
Comment by Patrick1
Big waste of money doing research on resistant forms of TB. As opposed to, say, the occupation of a sovereign country.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:03 pmIs there no problem that can’t be solved by spending other people’s money?
Comment by Patrick1
You’re pretty stupid, aren’t you?
You do realize that any money spent doesn’t disappear, it’s not evaporating into the ether.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:06 pmNot sure what sovereign country you are speaking of. Japan maybe. The lefties get all bent out of shape because of a cut in the rate of growth of some government agency but when it comes to defending America against Islamo Fascism they take the side of the fascists. How come?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:07 pmIt’s a white male crossing the border! The only time thinkprogress cares about border security!
The man’s father correctly pointed out that the media was treating him as if he was a terrorist. In reality, he was afraid that he would die if he remained OUT of the United States. He shouldn’t have borded that plane, but let us hope that nobody else was infected. The man should be ok, by the way.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:08 pmComment by gummitch
We shouldn’t be in Iraq, we get your point.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:09 pmfrom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Gerberding
May 31st, 2007 at 6:09 pm
#4 Patrick1
Is there no problem that can’t be solved by spending other people’s money?
Is trying to prevent an epidemic your idea of a frivolous expense? Just how simple do we need to make our explanations, Patrick? Can you possibly be that stupid?
Those tax dollars are our tax dollars and, yes, they should be spent on the CDC to try to protect us from outbreaks of disease. The amount of money that Bush has cut from the CDC is nowhere near the amount of our tax dollars that have been lost, wasted, and ripped off by contractors in Iraq who just happen to be cronies of Bush and Cheney.
Is there no scum-sucking, lowlife, Republican war profiteer who can’t be made richer by spending other people’s money? I guess that’s your idea of money well-spent, Patrick. Making crooks richer.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:12 pmNo president is more transparent than George Bush, in one sense only. Follow the money. He loves photo-ops, what politician doesn’t? But he has been more ruthless and cynical than any competitor in wringing photo-ops from people whose funding he has already decided to slash and burn.
The irony that the CDCs are an integral first defense in his much ballyhooed “defense” of the homeland — indeed, in any rational defense of the United States on a routine or emergency basis — doesn’t seem to bother whatever it is that stays between those big ears.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:12 pmYet ANOTHER FAILURE of BUSH’S policies. Why did we throw so many billions of dollars into the QUAGMIRE that is the Iraq War, which has resulted in creating a terrorist breeding ground? At the same time, Bush cuts programs which could actually make a difference.
Of course, this is the same guy who ignored “OSAMA DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES.” We shouldn’t be surprised at the continuous incompetence of Bush and his cronies.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:13 pmWith the state of our health care system, 47 million uninsured and millions more with unacceptable coverage, there have got to be millions who are not seeking medical care = more of a possibility of contagious disease outbreaks. This must be a concern to the selfish “I don’t want my health care degraded by universal health care” folks. Suppose the selfish, for this reason, may give a second thought to universal health care as I don’t think gated communities can protect them.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:14 pm#9 — but when it comes to defending America against Islamo Fascism they take the side of the fascists. How come?
Where’s your proof that the liberals are on the side of the terrorists?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:15 pmJust because we disagree with a blatantly misguided war with no clearly discernable purpose does not mean we are un-American. Debate and disagreement are a required part of a democracy; oh wait, you want a neo-con dictatorship, I forgot.
1) I suppose on some level there is a silver lining in having a President Bush. He’s pretty much destroyed any shred of credibility the economic libertarians might have. His deregulation at all costs approach should be considered DOA going forward (outside of Retardedville of course). Of course on the other hand, that’s a pretty steep price to pay for that lesson (1 city devastated by terrorist attack, 1 city decimated by natural disaster, an enormous increase in debt, etc. etc.).
2) “No one could have anticipated the outbreak of the black plague”.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:15 pmBush cultists, the point is that the man was on a no-fly list for a very serious reason and he was able to fly all over the place and enter the U.S. anyway without a problem. You keep accusing liberals of being in a “pre-9-11 mindset.” It’s been 6 years now. Why hasn’t your cult leader fixed problems like this?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:15 pmNot sure what sovereign country you are speaking of. Japan maybe. The lefties get all bent out of shape because of a cut in the rate of growth of some government agency but when it comes to defending America against Islamo Fascism they take the side of the fascists. How come?
Comment by Patrick1
Whew. Elevator doesn’t go all the way up, does it?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:15 pmPlus, fighting or stopping diseases like tuberculosis is based on SCIENCE. Bush doesn’t know anything about that. He probably thinks, instead of trying to prevent drug-resistant TB from spreading, we should study the issue some more. THE IDIOT BOY PRESIDENT STRIKES AGAIN!
May 31st, 2007 at 6:15 pmPatrick: “Is there no problem that can’t be solved by spending other people’s money?”
As citizens, it’s our money, dumbass, and we’d like to see it spent wisely.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:17 pmand a director apparently unaware of basic emergency respiratory prevention methods at their most basic. “no plan” is typical.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:17 pmwhat do we pay them for?
Is there no problem that can’t be solved by spending other people’s money? Comment by Patrick1
The welfare state of Iraq you so badly wanted to own and occupy so you could free those terrorists would be one.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:21 pmSo, what’s the poor TB-carrier gonna do now?
He’s living in a world in which antibiotics no longer exist.
That’s bad.
It means dying in a hermetically sealed room.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:22 pmHas the funding for the War against Islamo Fascists been put into a bill yet? I’ve seen the Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq but I don’t see the Islamo Fascist clause.
Patrick can you point out the bill that appropriates money for this?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:22 pmNice to know that Shrub’s intense, privacy invading and often illegal “data security activities” can track down and keep an anti-war constitutional law scholar from flying – because he might be a threat to Mr. Bush’s PR security – but can’t find a potentially real threat to international health security at several US and international airports and a road crossing from one of Canada’s major cities, Montreal, into upstate New York. Follow the money, follow the incompetence, and you’ll find Lil’ George.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:22 pmPatrick1, I’ve got a money-spending solution I’m sure you’ll love.
We should fight TB by funding the dissemination of Bibles into densely packed high risk areas. What the TB-prone people need is faith in Jesus Christ (and not just any Jesus Christ, but the Jesus Christ of George W. Bush, Pat Robertson, and patrick1– the one who hates poor people (cuz they’re lazy welfare bums), loves bombing the crap out of non-aggressor countries, and hates logic and science). That should prevent them from getting any diseases, not just TB.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:24 pmHey Jordan,
Nice job… for a beginner.
Unfortunately your spin was not effective enough to whip-up a proper frenzy TP-style.
One unanticipated effect of your failure is that anti-US bias of TP becomes ever so transparent.
Just something to think about the next time you try to manufacture outrage.
- PJN
May 31st, 2007 at 6:24 pmThere is no alternative plan to fighting Islamo Fascism that has been offered other than retreat to Okinawa and that is so stupid as to not even being entertained by the surrender monkeys Reid and Pelosi.
When given the chance in the 90s to defend America the left failed to the tune of the death of 3,000 Americans in less than an hour. Treating terror like a liquor store hold-up is proof that you side with the Islamists.
As for CDC. It is a government agency and by definition inefficient. It is unlikely that the outcome of this would have changed one bit if you had doubled their budget. The idea that if you just spend more of the people’s money you will get a more postive results goes against all the evidence of post modern liberal social programs.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:25 pmYou would think with a republican dominated congress for 6 years that at least one anti Islamofascist bill would have been presented.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:27 pmNot sure what sovereign country you are speaking of. Japan maybe. The lefties get all bent out of shape because of a cut in the rate of growth of some government agency but when it comes to defending America against Islamo Fascism they take the side of the fascists. How come?
Comment by Patrick1
This, above, is a perfect example of what home schooling does. Recall P1 that Bush said Iraq was Sovereign? Remember?? Freedom Reigns?
Bush with a sharpie? Mission Accomplished?
This police action [Freedom war] is not about Islamofascism idiot, It was about creating a Democracy in Iraq so they could throw flowers, remember? This democratic experiment debacle money hole is a GOP project from start to finish. And has accomplished nothing.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:28 pm#9
The lefties get all bent out of shape because of a cut in the rate of growth of some government agency but when it comes to defending America against Islamo Fascism they take the side of the fascists. How come?
So, if the Islamo-Fascists (your imaginary enemies) were to unleash a biological attack on the U.S., using a contagious disease, you don’t mind that the CDC has been so crippled by our moronic president’s budget cuts that they can’t adequately respond to it? What would your alternative approach to that be? Launch nukes on the entire Middle East?
Can we get a better quality of troll in here? I don’t mind that they’re Republican or conservative or whatever, but do they have to be so goddamned stupid AND dishonest at the same time? It’s sickening.
And, yes CompTROLLER V-1, I’m talking about you, too.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:29 pmIf Mr. TB doesn’t die from the disease, I hope they throw his selfish, thoughtless A$$ in jail and fine him an inch within bankruptcy…..(”I WANT to get married” “I DON’T care who I expose to this disease”. “Contrary to Progressive arguments, health care in the EU is NOT as good as the US”.)
Thank you TP for making a completely specious argument and NOT addressing the REAL problem – this selfish TB-carrying lunatic….
May 31st, 2007 at 6:29 pmTo say it has accomplished nothing is a lie. But it does help the left to lie to itself. That is the only explanation for liberals making the same mistakes time and time again.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:31 pmThere is no alternative plan to fighting Islamo Fascism that has been offered other than retreat to Okinawa and that is so stupid as to not even being entertained by the surrender monkeys Reid and Pelosi.
Your the idiots that thought you could waltz into Iraq and free them P1. Why don’t you take any responsiblilty for this feckup decades in the making? This Iraq freedom thing was in the works long before 9/11.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:32 pmFrom patrick1:
“The lefties get all bent out of shape because of a cut in the rate of growth of some government agency…”
Um, that would be the CDC, which is tasked with ensuring public health and safety in this country, particularly with respect to infectious diseases. Like drug-resistant TB. Or AIDS. Or weaponized smallpox.
“but when it comes to defending America against Islamo Fascism they take the side of the fascists. How come?”
Um, the CDC is actually a critical element in the defense against biological attacks on this country. That’s why the budget cuts are so outrageous.
On the other hand, the current war in iraq had nothing to do with terrorists, until they took advantage of the fact that we stupidly diverted our efforts by going there.
You’re not very bright…are you?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:33 pmIf our line of defense is some government agency in Atlanta we are doomed. I would rather kill the fascists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc…rather than allow them to come here with a chemical weapon. Wouldn’t you?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:33 pmHere is what you need to look at cache text of Speaker Law Firm’s site that is now hidden from inquiry.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Sorry to state this fact moonbats but a spending bill will not stop Islamo Fascism.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:34 pmMr. P – Re: Jordan Grossman – The 2nd string is doing the BEST they can!
A question Jordan – Are these REAL cuts you cite? Or are they “famously fuzzy Democrat Cuts which is asemantically stupid way of saying, “the increases to the budget will be smaller than my staff would like – code word: ‘cuts’ “?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:35 pmIs Patrick’s post at #30 saying he wants to cut funding for the Iraq conflict? He states that all govt agencies are inefficient, unlike those private hired guns that call for 3x’s the money.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:35 pmTo say it has accomplished nothing is a lie. But it does help the left to lie to itself. That is the only explanation for liberals making the same mistakes time and time again.
Comment by Patrick1
So why did Bechtel pul out? What has been accomplished? You say they are Islamofascists right? If thats true, then why do you want to accomplish a democracy for them? Huh? You keep talking about how much you hate Iraq and the people, then why not just leave and forget the million dollars schools and projects? Whats the point of rebuilding the infrastructure at a cost of billions to us?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:36 pmComment by Chimpeach
Quality trolls don’t fill the ranks of conspiracy theorists and advocants for high-tax hell holes, either.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:36 pmMay 31st, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Mr. President, busy day, huh?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:37 pm> If our line of defense is some government agency in Atlanta we are doomed.
> I would rather kill the fascists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc…
> rather than allow them to come here with a chemical weapon. Wouldn’t you?
So you would charge a gov’ agency (the military) to kill non-existent fascists across the
whole Middle East? You see how that went in Iraq. Total failure & inefficiency.
Luckily, there is Blackwater and sundry other Condottierre outfits that can take
up the slack. They are sure to find some fascists abroad or at home.
No problem here.
Meanwhile, how are you Chinese lessons coming?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:38 pm“http://tinyurl.com/27n8rv”
May 31st, 2007 at 6:39 pmIf our line of defense is some government agency in Atlanta we are doomed. I would rather kill the fascists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc…rather than allow them to come here with a chemical weapon. Wouldn’t you?
Comment by Patrick1
And your gonna do that by rebuidling their infrastructure? By buying their oil? There were no chemical weapons. The chemical weapon they used was jet fuel! Something you can get anywhere!…jeesh.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:40 pmMr. President, busy day, huh?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 31, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
Not really, looks like TP is kind of empty as far as content goes. They let this amatuer write little something. Too bad it sucks and is not even relevant. The other threads look like more of the same, namely, manufactured controversy. I wouldn’t be suprised if started reading about somebody’s new puppy or some shit.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:40 pmThe really weird thing is that this guy’s father in law is a scientist at the CDC and his specialty is TB. Hmmmm
May 31st, 2007 at 6:41 pmsource:CNN
#30 Patrick1
As for CDC. It is a government agency and by definition inefficient. It is unlikely that the outcome of this would have changed one bit if you had doubled their budget.
You realize, of course, that you have no idea what the f*ck you’re talking about. As usual. Since you’ve made the claim, please show us what evidence you have that the CDC has always been inefficient. And, enlighten us as to what private enterprise you think should replace the CDC. Explain why a private enterprise would be more efficient and how it would be held accountable. How would it be shielded from the influence of drug companies, health insurance companies, and other crooks?
Oh that’s right. You’re an ideologue. You don’t have to think about the silly crap you say. You just keep spewing it out, regardless. Never mind.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:42 pmWhen given the chance in the 90s to defend America the left failed to the tune of the death of 3,000 Americans in less than an hour. Treating terror like a liquor store hold-up is proof that you side with the Islamists.
Are we on the “Blame Clinton” routine again? Will somebody find their record player and bust this vinyl – it’s annoying the hell out of me.
And considering that the CDC is supposed to be the front-line defense against biological attacks, cutting its budget doesn’t make a lot of sense considering that our over-reliance on anti-biotics (thank you Big Pharma!) has allowed many “super-strain” organisms like XDR-TB to develop.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:42 pmMr. P – Re: Jordan Grossman – The 2nd string is doing the BEST they can!
A question Jordan – Are these REAL cuts you cite? Or are they “famously fuzzy Democrat Cuts which is asemantically stupid way of saying, “the increases to the budget will be smaller than my staff would like – code word: ‘cuts’ “?
Comment by valiant venus — May 31, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
Seems like they were just *proposed* adjustments. I mean, for Christ’s sake, one of them is for 2008!
Please
May 31st, 2007 at 6:42 pmbut when it comes to defending America against Islamo Fascism they take the side of the fascists. How come?
Comment by Patrick1
Islamo Fascism will not be our demise… calm down… obviously you have had too much kool aid and have bought Bush’s propaganda.
Islamo Fascism is not the problem… our country is rotting from the inside out – that is the real fear you shoiuld have.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:42 pmI really hope Patrick1 never gets tuberculosis even though he is an appeaser and supporter of radical extremist islamics thru his Operation Iraqi Liberation for Islamofascists. Congratulations on your purchase of a sovereign country with 25 million Islamofascists P1.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:44 pm#34
Well, at least valiant venus understands the seriousness of what this guy did.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:45 pmIslamo Fascism will not be our demise…
Comment by had enough — May 31, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
You got this part right.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:46 pmDon’t worry posters, Zooey and Paul in LA know that it is NO BIG DEAL so ST*U since all you need is a few pills!
May 31st, 2007 at 6:46 pm“If our line of defense is some government agency in Atlanta we are doomed. I would rather kill the fascists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc…rather than allow them to come here with a chemical weapon. Wouldn’t you?
Comment by Patrick1″
Oh I get it–all government is bad, so a government agency tasked with providing some measure of control over infectious disease breakouts *must* be ineffective and worthless. Well, you’ve convinced me.
As far as killing fascists, I’d like to start by getting the ones currently in the white house.
“Sorry to state this fact moonbats but a spending bill will not stop Islamo Fascism.
Comment by Patrick1″
No, but it would give the American people more control over how their money is being spent; based on an earlier post I gather that *is* important to you, right?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:49 pm“Two former department lawyers said that when they’d applied for jobs elsewhere in the VOTING RIGHTS SECTION in early 2005, Schlozman had asked them to delete mention on their resumes of Republican affiliations and resubmit them. Both attorneys were hired.
One of them, Ty Clevenger, said Schlozman “wanted to make it look like it was apolitical.†Clevenger also said that when he’d passed along a resume from a fellow Stanford University Law School graduate, Schlozman had asked, “Is he one of us?â€
This Is As Unamerican, Unconstitutional, Illegal, Amoral and Indictable As It Gets, virtually on a par with the despicable germs scamming familys of our troops by calling them to say that their loved ones have perished in combat in an attempt to steal their social security numbers and any other personal data they could steal, but after last weeks atrociously toadying capitulation to the twice-unelected coup d’etat robbing America and the world blind, we can never misunderestimate our Democratic “Leadership”. Judging by this standard, the Democratic protectors of our Constitutional Republic may fall all over themselves in an effort to be first in line to “Thank” Mr. Schlozman for his generous and thoughtful consideration in deigning to make an appearance before our mere Senate in order to “Clear Up” this “Unfortunate Misunderstanding”.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:51 pmBut even Bush’s myopic focus on terrorism does not appear to have paid off. The Department of Homeland Security has been unable to explain how the TB-infected man was able to simply drive into the United States on his return trip from Canada when “all border crossings had been given his name and told to hold him if he appeared.â€
The explanation is simple. The guy is not Muslim.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:55 pmso ST*U since all you need is a few pills!
Comment by Saywho
Say you got Rushs cell number so I can get a few pills? I think I’d rather die a stupid fat big mouthed deaf racist with an ingrown butt hair that kept me out of war drug addict than spend a few dollars to protect my countrymen from disease.
“Sorry to state this fact moonbats but a spending bill will not stop Islamo Fascism. Comment by Patrick1″
Maybe if we quit buying their oil they couldn’t afford Islamofascism? Eh?
May 31st, 2007 at 6:57 pmPatrick1
May 31st, 2007 at 6:58 pmIn fighting your Islamo Fascism did you know this is about Bush getting a contract with Iraqi oil – giving Iraq 30% of the profits and the corporate oil companies 70%? And to those that secretly think this is fine as gas prices will go down… well IT WON’T. And you talk about the spending the peoples money… What do you think about the expense of not only our military but the use of civilian contractors – 100+ thousand of them being paid 100 thous a year WITH YOUR and my money to get the oil job secured for the oil corporations?
Comment #50, Mr. President
I couldn’t have summed it up better.
Manufactured, it all is. Progressive, it isn’t.
Heheheh.
May 31st, 2007 at 6:59 pmSeems like they were just *proposed* adjustments. I mean, for Christ’s sake, one of them is for 2008!
Please
Comment by Mr. President
She ain’t gonna sleep with you, Mr P.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:00 pmMaybe if we quit buying their oil they couldn’t afford Islamofascism? Eh?
Comment by O’Really — May 31, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
Yeah!! Let’s steal the oil and starve ‘em out!!!!
May 31st, 2007 at 7:00 pmShe ain’t gonna sleep with you, Mr P.
Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Please don’t make pretend to be the “chaste and pure” man of Book I was the other day
May 31st, 2007 at 7:02 pmDon’t worry posters, Zooey and Paul in LA know that it is NO BIG DEAL so ST*U since all you need is a few pills!
Comment by Saywho
Drug resistant TB and leprosy are very different things, Saywho. I don’t expect you to understand, poor dear.
Surely that’s not an ad hominem attack coming from YOU?
May 31st, 2007 at 7:03 pmViolating your own standards now?
Comment #50, Mr. President
I couldn’t have summed it up better.
Manufactured, it all is. Progressive, it isn’t.
Heheheh.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 31, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
Yeah but they do have to provide something. It is just unfortunate that the TP gang has no real message, all they do is throw mud, make shit up, try to influence those with fragile minds, etc. etc. I don’t think TP really gives a f*ck about shit.
Which, I have to admit, is kinda funny.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:04 pmNext Thread:
“President Bush Allows Barney To Sh*t on White House Lawn, Nancy Vows Legislation to Make Him Pick it Up.”
May 31st, 2007 at 7:06 pmHey V. Venus,
How ’bout you let me know when Hephaestus (your crippled husband) goes out. I’ll be your Ares, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do. This time we’ll tell Poseidon that we like it under the net.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:07 pmComment by Mr. President
I keep asking myself if TP is going to achieve anything after, let’s say, several more years of posting. Throwing countless insults towards “60% crap” O’Reilly isn’t going to make any real impact.
Blogging is what the full-timers at TP get paid to do, right? Gotta meet the deadline with at least some slush or get fired.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:11 pmIf our line of defense is some government agency in Atlanta we are doomed. I would rather kill the fascists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc…rather than allow them to come here with a chemical weapon. Wouldn’t you?
Comment by Patrick1
Since Cheney, Libby, et al. have destroyed the weapons of mass destruction tracking network of Valerie Plame and Brewster-Jennings, this has materially increased the chances of such weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. Are these the chemical weapons to which you refer?
May 31st, 2007 at 7:11 pm“When given the chance in the 90s to defend America the left failed to the tune of the death of 3,000 Americans in less than an hour. Treating terror like a liquor store hold-up is proof that you side with the Islamists.”
When given 9 months and a number of warnings from the previous administration in addition to 55 specific warnings from the FAA and dire predictions from the intelligence community, the right failed to the tune of the death of 3,000 Americans in less than an hour. The right’s leaders met on the subject of terrorism exactly zero times.
Oh, and by the way, even though the first WTC attack occured just 30 days into his presidency, there is no record of Clinton or anyone in his administration blaming the previous administration for this attack.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:11 pmSurely that’s not an ad hominem attack coming from YOU?
Violating your own standards now?
Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
No, yesterday you said it was “no big deal” to get leprosy and all you need is a few pills. Since that is no big deal resistant TB only takes a few drugs to treat and maybe some surgery. Heck E- Coli from the Taco Bell is no big deal at all just a few pills.
Lighten up baby it is NO BIG DEAL!
May 31st, 2007 at 7:13 pmPlease don’t make pretend to be the “chaste and pure†man of Book I was the other day
Comment by Mr. President
Either way, no joy. :D
May 31st, 2007 at 7:16 pmComment by Mr. President
I keep asking myself if TP is going to achieve anything after, let’s say, several more years of posting. Throwing countless insults towards “60% crap†O’Reilly isn’t going to make any real impact.
Blogging is what the full-timers at TP get paid to do, right? Gotta meet the deadline with at least some slush or get fired.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — May 31, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
From what I gather you are correct. I feel kind of bad for those who think that TP has a noble purpose, because I know that those commenters are good people, as for the TP gang, they seem a little sinister.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:17 pmNo, yesterday you said it was “no big deal†to get leprosy and all you need is a few pills. Since that is no big deal resistant TB only takes a few drugs to treat and maybe some surgery. Heck E- Coli from the Taco Bell is no big deal at all just a few pills.
Lighten up baby it is NO BIG DEAL!
Comment by Saywho
No — you said I said that. I said leprosy was easily treatable and curable. Leprosy is very difficult to transmit, not so with TB.
Stop being so f*cking stupid.
At least try….
May 31st, 2007 at 7:21 pmPatrick1, et al. As I recall it, every single Republican I knew thought Clinton was overstating the terrorism threat back in 2000 and 2001. This was the talking point of the time among you jackasses, because you wanted to break a bunch of treaties (Kyoto, ABM, the nuclear disarmament ones), and counterterrorism involved stressing intelligence, working with other countries, and not building up missile defense.
So you and W ignored terrorism for 9 months, and then pretended it wasn’t W’s fault when 9/11 happened. W covered up like crazy the fact that he had received not one, but two high level warnings about an impending attack, because he was criminally negligent in allowing 9/11 to occur. Then instead of properly acknowledging that 9/11 was a failure of US intelligence, you jackasses, whether complicit with Osama or not, decided that we should abandon the search for the people actually responsible for the murders of 3000 New Yorkers, and instead that we should invade some totally unrelated other country.
You are a bunch of treasonous swine, and patrick1, i really truly hope you die a gruesome death. You are a traitor to this country, and you deserve the worst possible fate.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:24 pmFrom what I gather you are correct. I feel kind of bad for those who think that TP has a noble purpose, because I know that those commenters are good people, as for the TP gang, they seem a little sinister. Comment by Mr. President — May 31, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
Pure projection. We feel sorry for wingnuts like YOU that feel you have a noble purpose, and that’s your worst fear – isn’t it “SINISTER BOY”? You’re such a useless little piece of fascist sh*t.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:25 pmThe quarantined mans father-in-law is a TB specialist at
May 31st, 2007 at 7:30 pmthe CDC.
False flag anyone?
No — you said I said that. I said leprosy was easily treatable and curable. Leprosy is very difficult to transmit, not so with TB.
Stop being so f*cking stupid.
At least try….
Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
Here is your quote…
Leprosy is easily treated and curable.
Comment by Zooey — May 30, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
You’re OK with infected illegal aliens inside the country.
So since that is the case what is wrong with a little TB? T watched it on the news and they will give him 5 or 6 drugs and he will be fine. If he needs some lung reduction that is no big deal he has 2 lungs!
No big deal baby! Lighten up before you get TB little darlin!
May 31st, 2007 at 7:32 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
This isn’t in response to your twaddle, I just thought that I would tell you to spare you future embarrassment: the fact that you have incorporated VV’s name into you handle shows just how much she is in your thoughts. She controls you, maybe subconsciously I don’t know, and your positions are molded by her.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:33 pmNo big deal baby! Lighten up before you get TB little darlin!
Comment by Saywho — May 31, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
Says the wingnut with the VD on his brain that makeses hims crazieess…
May 31st, 2007 at 7:38 pmThis isn’t in response to your twaddle, I just thought that I would tell you to spare you future embarrassment: the fact that you have incorporated VV’s name into you handle shows just how much she is in your thoughts. She controls you, maybe subconsciously I don’t know, and your positions are molded by her. Comment by Mr. President — May 31, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
Whatever little b*tch…
This isn’t a response to your twaddle, just your general st*pidity….
When you go around calling for the *genocide* of others, and making dead baby jokes about your “fake” dead children – maybe you’ll rise to the level of wingnut worthy parody and name mangling…
At this point, you just rise to the level of “useless idiot”, like all ignorant wingnuts…
May 31st, 2007 at 7:40 pm“This isn’t in response to your twaddle, I just thought that I would tell you to spare you future embarrassment: the fact that you have incorporated VV’s name into you handle shows just how much she is in your thoughts. She controls you, maybe subconsciously I don’t know, and your positions are molded by her.
Comment by Mr. President”
That is to say:
“I’m rubber, you’re glue,
May 31st, 2007 at 7:41 pmWhatever you say bounces off me
And sticks to you.”
*
too bad this is so late in the thread -
has anyone heard that this guy’s new FATHER-IN-LAW
works for the CDC?
take your pick:
May 31st, 2007 at 7:42 pmhttp://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=&q=tuberculosis%2C+father-in-law&btnG=Search+News
…
Says the wingnut with the VD on his brain that makeses hims crazieess…
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
Awwwwwwwwwwwwww how’s it hangin little fella. Don’t worry micro phallus is socially acceptable by men since they like that big booty you have baby!
May 31st, 2007 at 7:51 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
I’m just lookin’ out for you man. Come on, what do you expect people to think? You don’t have your own identity.
I wasn’t being malicious, I’m just sayin’ that one day your gonna have to learn how to hold your own, instead of lurking in someone else’s shadow.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:53 pmAs your proctologist ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus I should warn you that it is a deep dark hole here and I see a few gerbils too. How much traffic do you get back here little fella?
May 31st, 2007 at 8:04 pmOn that photo, I hope the guy helping aWol at the microscope smeared some blacking stuff on the viewer.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:10 pmPatrick….there is no financial profit to be made in Community Health aka Public Health…that is why is is funded by the public in the form of government appropriations… Profiteers are NOT interested in providing these kinds of services, believe me, or the Republicans would have eliminated all funding for the CDC and related programs…Although, since Reagan, substantial cuts in funding have been made in programs where private m.d.s COULD make a profit, such as in maternal and child health…but thats another story. In the meantime, you have no complaints about the BILLIONS spent everyday on ANTI HEALTH measures involving the killing of people in Iraq… So, tell me: Why do you hate healthy americans in the Homeland???? Or do you want your fellow citizens getting ill and dying from communicable diseases….? You must be an islamofascist…is that it??
May 31st, 2007 at 8:12 pmUndocumented workers do not have TB so leave them alone!
Godess minimus Zooey Has Spoken
Bwa ha ha ha
May 31st, 2007 at 8:15 pmUndocumented workers do not have small pox so let them in the Taco Bell! Bwa ha ha ha
The Godess minimus Zooey Has Spoken
May 31st, 2007 at 8:19 pmNo big deal baby! Lighten up before you get TB little darlin!
Comment by Saywho —
Oh No – - You did not just call a fellow poster / human being / “baby”?!!? “little darlin!”??
How f*ing sexist!
May 31st, 2007 at 8:23 pmHere is your quote…
Leprosy is easily treated and curable.
Comment by Zooey — May 30, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
You’re OK with infected illegal aliens inside the country.
So since that is the case what is wrong with a little TB? T watched it on the news and they will give him 5 or 6 drugs and he will be fine. If he needs some lung reduction that is no big deal he has 2 lungs!
No big deal baby! Lighten up before you get TB little darlin!
Comment by Saywho
Yep, that’s my quote. The rest of that idiotic blather is all yours.
You’re not making anyone look bad except yourself, loser.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:23 pmOMG!
The Leprosy crap again?
Wasn’t this debunked a few days ago?
Wow. A little slow on the uptake, aren’t we, trolls?
May 31st, 2007 at 8:27 pmYep, that’s my quote. The rest of that idiotic blather is all yours.
You’re not making anyone look bad except yourself, loser.
Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
You say = Leprosy is easily treated and curable.
I say = TB ain’t so bad Bwa ha ha ha
Get that sugar baby?
May 31st, 2007 at 8:29 pmHey, Say Who,
How was that trip to Evansville?
Did you remember your white sheet?
Get all your cheap crap from WallMart – the co that is destroying American businesses?
You are such a ma-roon.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:29 pmComment by trueblue — May 31, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
Yea MD Zooey knows all about communicable diseases!
Bwa ha ha ha ha
Don’t all irate there True blew Me??
May 31st, 2007 at 8:32 pmGet that sugar baby?
Comment by Saywho
Ok, you’re getting out of hand. I want you to start ignoring my comments, and I’ll do the same for you.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:33 pmGet that sugar baby?
Comment by Saywho
You have got to be sh*tting me…..
Why isn’t anyone else calling out this sexist redneck on his behavior????
May 31st, 2007 at 8:34 pmHey, Say Who,
How was that trip to Evansville?
Did you remember your white sheet?
Get all your cheap crap from WallMart – the co that is destroying American businesses?
You are such a ma-roon.
Comment by trueblue — May 31, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Bwah ha ha ha aha you are such a ma-roon….
Wow that was tuff stuff… ma-roon
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha
Wall-Mart ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LOL
ST*U trueblewme
May 31st, 2007 at 8:36 pmReally?
You are acting quite different from this morning’s posts.
I guess you’ve been drinking.
Just like everyone said this am.
You are proving them true.
No one tells me what to do, a$$wipe. Especially some friggin troll from Indiana. Indiana? WTF? You like being in the armpit of America?
Nasty place. Now I know there are some nasty people there as well.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:44 pmBlow my candle ….
Sorry, your wick is much too tiny.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:45 pmYea, we should take Zooey MD’s medical advice down at the border and apply that to everything. They might have a few pills to get ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus’s micro phallus to 1″ rock solid! You go girl!
Comment by Saywho — May 31, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
Yet you remain “jealous” of that 1″ – how telling, and SAD for you… poor little flaccid wingnut!!!
May 31st, 2007 at 8:51 pmValiant the SayWho Terrorist is here posting *ITS* wingnut paranoia again…
WAH, WAH, CRY SOME MORE about how the LIBRULS are PERSECUTING YOU, and are gonna make you SURRENDER and COMMIT SUICIDE…
What a whiny little b*tch you are….
May 31st, 2007 at 8:52 pmGot that honey licker?
Comment by Saywho
I have asked you to ignore my comments, and I will ignore yours. I don’t think there’s any question as to what I’m asking, so you can’t claim ignorance.
If you continue with your lewd comments, I will report you immediately.
Do you understand?
May 31st, 2007 at 8:52 pmwhat are you waiting for, zoo?
just sayin’…
May 31st, 2007 at 8:55 pmGot that honey licker?
Comment by Saywho
I have asked you to ignore my comments, and I will ignore yours. I don’t think there’s any question as to what I’m asking, so you can’t claim ignorance.
If you continue with your lewd comments, I will report you immediately.
Do you understand?
Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
I’m gonna tell I’m gonna tell
Bwah ha ha ha ha
May 31st, 2007 at 9:00 pmwhat are you waiting for, zoo?
just sayin’…
Comment by katy
#115 is what I was waiting for. :-)
May 31st, 2007 at 9:00 pmBwah ha ha ha ha
May 31st, 2007 at 9:02 pmOK.
Saywho is CLEARLY incapacitated.
He should be reported to TP, and be universally ignored by us sane posters.
(Must have been some meeting he went to. ICK)
May 31st, 2007 at 9:03 pmIf you continue with your lewd comments, I will report you immediately.
Do you understand?
Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
Bwah ha ha ha ha
May 31st, 2007 at 9:09 pm(in the photo, Bush is loking for his conscience, and can’t even find it w/ a microscope…)
May 31st, 2007 at 9:14 pm#4
God forbid we return that money to the taxpayers!
May 31st, 2007 at 9:25 pmI don’t know what happened. Demons got inside and took over my hands but I’m all better now!
May 31st, 2007 at 9:29 pmI’m not sure why anyone is surprised by the healthcare budget cuts. After all we have a war on turism to fight and it costs alot of money. We have to fight em over there before I have to smoke em out and git em over here. I’m the President …..beats chest three times.
Modern war is a lot cheaper than modern healthcare.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:38 pmMight be best for Bush to get TB, then the nation would be forced to lock him away someplace, so he would not infect the entire citizenry of U.S.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:47 pm“Modern war is a lot cheaper than modern healthcare.”
Where is your cite?
May 31st, 2007 at 10:03 pmI would rather kill the fascists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc…rather than allow them to come here with a chemical weapon. Wouldn’t you?
Comment by Patrick1
Nobody here is stopping you from enlisting in the military, Patsy. Go ahead.
May 31st, 2007 at 10:40 pmTP,
Thanks for removing the vile comments of Saywho.
Z
May 31st, 2007 at 10:42 pm“Nobody here is stopping you from enlisting in the military, Patsy. Go ahead.”
Patty would have problems against a heavily armed ferret.
May 31st, 2007 at 10:45 pmZooey, was Saywho being a pig? Nothing new. I think he is Jason Hendler.
May 31st, 2007 at 10:46 pmMight be best for Bush to get TB, then the nation would be forced to lock him away someplace, so he would not infect the entire citizenry of U.S.
Comment by Jay Randal
Sorry, Jay Randal, but it’s too late. Bush has already infected huge swaths of the population w/ a terrible disease – Crippling Stupidity – and it’s reaching epidemic proportions.
May 31st, 2007 at 10:50 pmI would rather kill the fascists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc…rather than allow them to come here with a chemical weapon. Wouldn’t you?
Comment by Patrick1
But… but… the fascists are already here (Bush, Cheney, et al…) and not only do they have chemical weapons, they’ve got nukes! Yikes! Now what are we going to do???
May 31st, 2007 at 10:52 pmZooey, was Saywho being a pig? Nothing new. I think he is Jason Hendler.
Comment by JPark
Saywho is normally quite diffcult, but I think he was drunk or high earlier, and he was being horribly disgusting. You can get a little hint of it if you look above. Yuck.
I don’t think that’s Hendler. Hendler has been reduced to psychotic one-liners.
May 31st, 2007 at 11:02 pmZoo, I noticed the “lighten up baby” and the “honey licker” from responses. The guy is a neanderthal that couldn’t get laid in prison…no matter how much the repressed little b!tch wanted it.
May 31st, 2007 at 11:09 pm“I don’t think that’s Hendler. Hendler has been reduced to psychotic one-liners”
I haven’t noticed him lately. Sooner or later all the trolls are reduced to psychotic one-liners. Mr. President is well on his way.
May 31st, 2007 at 11:10 pmValiant VietVet:
“Patrick….there is no financial profit to be made in Community Health aka Public Health…that is why is is funded by the public in the form of government appropriations… Profiteers are NOT interested in providing these kinds of services, believe me, or the Republicans would have eliminated all funding for the CDC and related programs”
Excellent, and I would like to expand on this. Patrick, some efforts are best done through private enterprise, and some are best done by government. Some are best handled on a local level, and some take regional or national or international cooperation.
International cooperation is needed for handling diseases, in particular those which are easily transmissible, as is the case with TB. The CDC coordinates with other similar agencies in other countries when necessary. Moreover, the CDC has been the largest organization of its kind in the world, and formerly at least, its experts in various diseases were called upon ALL OVER THE WORLD to consult when various outbreaks of virulent diseases, such as Ebola, dengue fever, and others have broken out. Many of these diseases are still more-or-less confined to hot climates such as are the case in equatorial Africa and South America, but with worldwide travel, war, etc., these diseases can spread beyond their former borders, and some have done so. See “The Coming Plague: Newly Emerging Diseases in a World Out of Balance (Paperback)
” by Laurie Barrett for further details.
Viruses and bacteria know nothing of geographical boundaries artifically imposed by humans, which is why coordination is required beyond the local and sometimes even the national level.
The CDC has been and will continue to be a government funded agency, to act for the good of all of us. It can be either well-run or poorly run, and either well-funded or underfunded. I prefer well-run and well-funded. And I will remind you that regardless of funding level, CDC’s funding is still a drop in the bucket compared to military spending, even though the CDC has international responsibilities.
And don’t waste our time by replying that the CDC is OUR agency and so shouldn’t be acting on an international level. You only display your abysmal ignorance of disease transmission if you do.
May 31st, 2007 at 11:23 pm